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Ep8 - Sam Anderson on True Wealth: Media, Mentorship & Momentum

• Grant Hutchby • Season 1 • Episode 8

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Sam Anderson (Lynchburg, VA) left a decade-long mental-health career, dropped out of college and hustled multiple side ventures.. Richmond Bubble Soccer and Cycle Laundry, while working full-time as a project manager. Financial struggles led him to found Enso Media Firm, making start-up marketing affordable. Driven to mentor fellow founders, he then launched MrPreneur coaching, co-founded Legacy Vending to fund non-profits, and created Warren Investment to build real-estate wealth in his father’s honour.

Unlocking a generation of Carnivore Entrepreneurs who attain true wealth. On their terms with strength, energy, and purpose.

In this wide-ranging conversation you’ll learn how Sam:

  • Embodies “meat, muscles, mindset & money” by training like an athlete, rising at 4:45 AM and crafting disciplined routines
  • Balances faith and finances. Why spiritual grounding turbocharges business performance
  • Broke free from the “college degree myth” and built expertise through relationships, relentless self-education, and bartering services
  • Built true wealth by prioritising health, mindset and cashflow and why people buy from entrepreneurs who “look the part”
  • Masters delayed gratification: outworking competitors with consistency, grit and daily habits
  • Grows businesses that run and expand without him, so he can multiply impact and revenue

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Unknown:

To me, like entrepreneurship is a sport, and if you're not training for it, you're not going to last too long, meat, muscles, mindset and money. My mindset and money, okay, I like those. I mean, money is what makes the world go around say, you know, money's evil and all these sorts of things. They're full of crap if you don't have money, money is just a tool to be able to live the life and do things if you want to do. And also, I think it's selfish not to go out and want to create wealth.

KG SHORT STAY:

I've been getting up at 330 because I've got quite a lot of stuff to get to get done. I'm finalising my book, healthy body, healthy mind and a healthy bank account. And I don't think you can have true wealth without having all three of those. Robin Williams, you know Robin Williams. He had loads of money and made everyone else feel happy, but he up here was was all messed up. This is an interview episode, and we have a special guest with us today. I won't, I won't introduce him for you. His name's Sam, so I'll let, I'll pass it over to you, Sam, to introduce yourself and give everyone a little bit of an intro to who you

Unknown:

are. Yeah, for sure, man, first off, appreciate you having me on all the way, coming all the way from the States. I know we're across the pond from each other, but yeah, my name is Sam Anderson. I'm a serial entrepreneur here and the Richmond, Virginia area. I've owned and operated several businesses, founded, co founded. My main focuses right now are Enzo media firm, or full production media firm that that focuses on video marketing, social media management, photography, graphic design, podcast production and Drone Services. Outside of that, I'm also an investor in terms of real estate, also a public speaker under my mrpreneur brand, and I also do some one on one coaching with entrepreneurs that are just getting

KG SHORT STAY:

started. Wow, you definitely are a serial entrepreneur.

Unknown:

I'm an entrepreneur with ADHD,

KG SHORT STAY:

excellent. Most entrepreneurs are, I think, I think I've got a little bit of that. So yeah, you'll need to be. But yeah, cool. Um, so again, thank you for coming on. So I asked this question, or I'm going to ask this question to everyone coming on. So the carnivore entrepreneur suggests a couple things. It suggests that you like meat muscles, mindset and money. Can you just give me a little bit of or give everyone a little bit of a brief as to why you're qualified to be a carnivore entrepreneur. Well, it

Unknown:

sounds like you're just trying to interview real men, and I will qualify myself as a real man. Okay, I like meat, yes. Like a good burgers are my thing. Like, not as big of a daily, but I love a good cheeseburger then the muscle piece. Like, I'm addicted to the gym. I'm normally up by 5am every day. Actually, I've

KG SHORT STAY:

seen a lot of your videos, man, you're looking good. Yeah, I'm trying, bro. So

Unknown:

I get up about 445 in the morning. I've recently just started getting up a little bit earlier at the gym for an hour. To me, like, entrepreneurship is a sport, and if you're not training for it, you're not going to last too long. Like I've I've had mentors over the years that were multi millionaires, but they were extremely out of shape. And it's like, if you have all this wealth, but you can't fully enjoy it because of your health, and what's the point? Also, I think your why changes once you start to have a family. So having a wife and two kids like, you know, before we used to go to the gym just get a six pack and look sexy for the women to pick up at bars. Now it's like, I don't want to be a hunchback once my kid graduates high school. I want to be able to run around with them and do all the things that I need to do. So I want to be picking up my kids. And they're like, is that your grandpa or your dad? Like, so we want to keep that tighten in shape. What was the third element? Education,

KG SHORT STAY:

meat, muscles, mindset and money. My mindset and

Unknown:

money. Okay, I like those. So, yeah, mindset. I'm real big on keeping a hardcore focus on that. I'm not one of these type of people that I need a cheerleader hyping me up all the time, like I'm self motivated, it doesn't take much to get me out to bed in the morning and get rolling. I tell people all the time that Mondays are my favourite day of the week. For most people, Friday is their favourite day week. I love Monday because I get I get to get back to the office and start grading again, and then money. I mean, money is what makes the world go round. Say, you know, money's evil and all these sorts of things, they're full of crap if you don't have money, money is just a tool to be able to live the life and do things that you want to do. And also, I think it's selfish not to go out and want to create wealth, because think of the amount of people that you can assist when you have that ability to do so, when you're worried and. Out. You know, just keeping the lights on and things like that, it's hard to give back to others, but when you're in a wealth mindset and you have that abundance, you're able to go out and do things for others and be able to give them a hand up as well, too.

KG SHORT STAY:

Yeah, awesome, man. You are literally singing from the same place that I am. You know, when you say about the time you get up in the morning. You know, I'm a 424 30 kind of guy. Actually, for the last couple days, I've been getting up at 330 because I've got quite a lot of stuff to get to get done. I'm finalising my book.

Unknown:

What time do you go to bed? If you get up at 330 What time do you go to bed?

KG SHORT STAY:

Well, when I get up at 430 I go to bed at 930 but last night, I went to bed at 830

Unknown:

See, that's, that's the hard part for me, is going to bed, yeah, because my brain is still going. I'm watching YouTube videos like, it's hard. So I'll normally go to bed like 1030 11 o'clock, and getting up at 445 I need, wow, I need to cut that out.

KG SHORT STAY:

Well, sleep. Sleep's really important. And you know, when you're saying about how you want to have strength, you know, to be able to play with the kids until you're, you know, you're old, or whatever, your grandkids, and that's a massive thing for me. And you mentioned that you've been mentored by, you know, sit like people that are multi millionaires, that were, you know, overweight or, you know, unhealthy, that that to me, isn't, isn't wealth. For me, wealth is having a healthy body, healthy mind and a healthy bank account. And I don't think you can have true wealth without having all three of those, you know. So like, and this is where, you know, I believe in having that holistic, holistic approach to things like, like you were saying, you know, it you can't money is an enabler. Like, how can, if you had a great body and a great mind, you can't enjoy yourself if you're homeless, right? You know, and if you've got loads of money, but your mind's all fucked up, you can't, you can't enjoy yourself as well. You know, there's that story of, you know Robin Williams. You know Robin Williams, he, he had loads of money and made everyone else feel happy, but he up here was, was all messed up, and that's why I ended up committing suicide. So the

Unknown:

other component I'd add to that is the spiritual element, too. I think, you know, health in your body, health in your finance, health in your your spiritual life. Now, I love Jesus, but I cuss too, so I don't want anybody when I started dropping F bombs on this podcast, like I thought he was a Christian. You got. That's

KG SHORT STAY:

why, that's why I said the F word give you.

Unknown:

But having that bat like just knowing that there is a higher power, and having that anchor, like it helps centre you. And I don't care what religion you are, whether you're Islamic, you're Christian, you're Catholic, you're Jewish, whatever it is, all of these teachings. They all have the same core foundations. And, you know, we spend so much time reading all these business books, entrepreneur, financial intelligence, all these different things, when all the cheat codes are in these books that are 1000s of years old, like, yeah, the Bible, the Quran, like, all these different things tell you how to build wealth, and a lot of people just don't want to hear because of what's layered around it. But I'm telling you, man, like, once I got serious about my spiritual life, and I grew up in the church, like my dad had been a pastor since the day, I was okay, but I got off of college. Man, I got real silly. But coming coming back to that now and still being grounded, like, I don't think it's like a one size fits all, that you have to do these things to be a Christian, or have, you know, spiritual faith. I think it's another component of who you build on. Because if you, if you ground yourself in these principles, you're going to treat people right. You're going to treat yourself right. Biggest thing, I think somebody that truly has belief in a spiritual you're taking care of your body because you realise it's a vessel and a tool that was just given to you for a little body is

KG SHORT STAY:

your temple, right? Yep. So, yeah, no, definitely on the same page with you on that one. And I think, I think there's a lot of similarities to how we how we approach things, because I was wasn't brought up in the church, but I was a born again Christian when I was 18 years old, and realised that there's a lot of truth in in lots of different religion, but what made me break away from that was their whole grasp on wanting me to do things their way. And the other thing that I believe in is I believe that there's truth in everything. So there's truth in every religion. There's truth in everything that's ever written. But at the end of the day, you have to decide your truth from it. So you take all the truth that's. Out there, and you decide what is the truth for you, and, you know, and that's, that's what I've hung my hat on. And I do believe there's a higher power out there, but I don't hang my hat on a specific religion anymore. I hang on. Hang my hat on my beliefs and what I want to, you know, go about my life in, you know, living, which I think is the most important thing. So cool. So we spoke a little bit before the interview, and you mentioned that you you quit college, but you didn't stop educating. Can you give us your sort of view on what people would say in terms of people that wanted to drop out of college and do something else? All

Unknown:

right, I'm gonna piss a lot of people off with this. I got a real problem with higher education. All right, that system is so antiquated, yeah, it makes no sense whatsoever to me. So there are a few professions where I feel like, if this is what you want to pursue, you college is a step, stepping stone to that finish line. So like, if you want to be a doctor, I don't want my doctor be cascaded on YouTube. You need to go to college. You need to go to medical school, yeah, if you want to be an attorney, be an attorney, and I've actually come back on this, you don't have to go to college to be an attorney. All you have to do is pass the bar. Now, passing the bar would be interesting, yeah, passing the bar would be very difficult without knowing the school. But you look at that show like suits like that guy, oh, shoot, yeah, yeah. And he was able to memorise everything in these legal books, and ultimately train himself to be be an attorney. The biggest thing I got from college and university is the relationships, the networking, because you literally have this one location where all these people from different parts of the country, different parts of the world, are all coming to one place and living together. So the first four businesses I started, all of my business partners were people that I met in college. So to me, the bill that I paid for that tuition was the relationships. So my kids are very young. They're five. My daughter's five. My son's about to be four, and I constantly think about this in terms of, like, what things will look like for them when they get to that point. To that point, and what I'll do as a parent. So me and my wife haven't talked about this greatly in depth, but here's my philosophy, if you have no idea what you want to do and you want to go to college or university to find yourself cool, I'm with it. Dad knows what he's doing. I'm getting things right. I'll pay for the first two years for you to go to school and find yourself, but the main things I'm going to be looking for is keep your grades somewhat respectful, enjoy yourself and network more than anything, create those relationships after two years, if you have no idea what you want to do, you're either footing the bill for the last two years, or you need to come home and find a job or start a business or whatever it is like, but you need to figure out your next path. Don't just sit there, because I believe 75% of the jobs in the world right now do not require a college degree. Now, a lot of those require a certification, but they don't require a college degree. They're only 25% of the jobs in the marketplace right now that require a degree. So that whole system is antiquated in terms of how people view that. I think the perspective is changing. I think back when you and I were probably growing up, you were a loser if you didn't go to college, like man, you're a bum. You're doing nothing with your life. Now, I mean, I would encourage you, know you can go be a plumber, electrician, or whatever. You can start out the gate making $70,000 a year if you can find a trade. And I just interviewed a guy on my podcast yesterday. He's an electrician, and he was able to get his education through working with other companies. So he wasn't making that much money, but he was assisting these electricians, these HVAC guys, and once he got the skill set up, he moved on to another business that could teach him something else. So he rinsed and repeated this for about five years. Every year he changed his job just to learn something different. But he wasn't going into debt trying to get an education on this. He was actually making money and getting the skill set that he needed now in terms of continually educating yourself if you feel so we'll take myself as an example. I work in the marketing space. If I relied on the information that I got five years ago, I'm not going to stay in business. Social media constantly changes monthly, if not weekly. Video marketing techniques constantly change. Podcasting is on the rise, like knowing the trends and things that are taking place, clients aren't going to spend their dollars with my organisation if we're not up to speed and getting them the proper results. So I think education is a big thing. Every single time I get in the car, I'm I'm over the Drake and Kendrick Lamar beef, and listen to all that crap, like when I get in my car. I've made my car a mobile University. I made the list of my cast or audio

KG SHORT STAY:

book speaking my language. Again, you

Unknown:

have to constantly feed this stuff into your brain, because I think when I got started early, I was literally there was a time last year and this is going to happen. As an entrepreneur, you're getting these funks where it's just like everybody thinks our life is sweet. We're our own boss. We call the shots. Blah, blah, blah, no, when I quit working for somebody else, I gave up one boss to take on hundreds of bosses which are now my clients. So there was a time last year I was just getting burnt out, man. And as an entrepreneur, there are periods where you will get burnt out, and I was just waking up with no motivation, which to me, freaked me the hell out, because I'm a very energised, motivated person, like, like I said earlier, I don't need anybody to hype me up. So I just got in this funk for like, I didn't even feel like doing this anymore. I was like, Man, am I at the point where I'm ready to sell this business? And I sat myself down on the couch, I searched on YouTube entrepreneur motivation, and I just pummelling my head with information, motivational content. For two straight hours after that, I woke up the next morning, I was good to go. So I'm not real big on the rah rah stuff. I don't need a lot of motivational content, but there are periods where I need to feed my mind on that stuff. And then looking at things like financial literacy, like these are things that are not taught in the school system. My parents didn't give me any lessons on money they told me to save. But outside of that, we never talked about stock market, we never talked about credit card debt, we never talked about business loans, we never discussed any of this stuff. So I had to go out and seek this information on my own, and two ways that I primarily get information. One, well now. Two, I guess we can break it down these categories, either by reading or audio. So the podcast, the audio books, are actually sitting down and reading a physical reading book, and two, the circle you keep around you, I roll with guys who are smarter than me in other areas. Now I may be smarter than them when it comes to marketing and business development, all these other things, but like literally, my best friend is also my financial advisor, so me and him jump on a phone call probably three to four times a week, just chopping it up. But we're always talking about the stock market business development. We're figuring out what conference we're going to go to next. He's connected me with potential clients. I'm doing the same for him, and it's like when you build a tribe of people like that around you, the education never stops, and you're putting yourself an environment where you're forced to educate yourself, because if you're rolling with that calibre of people, and you start to slow down for a minute, they're not going to drag you along. You either got to keep pace or they're going to let you fall behind. So I think educating yourself, getting the information constantly, not not on a monthly or yearly basis, but on a daily basis.

KG SHORT STAY:

Yeah, no, absolutely. And again, the who you surround yourself with is a massive, a massive thing as well. You know, it's amazing. I think I heard it from Jim Rohn originally. If you're not happy where where you are, look at the five people around you. Yeah, you know that you're closest to and actually such a difference. Oh, man. Well, I within, within two years of leaving my hometown and my ex wife, I became an entrepreneur, you know? And I was 34 at the time, and within two years, I became an entrepreneur. I hadn't quit my job until, you know, a couple years after that, but I'd started up the business, and I was on that journey and educated myself on that education, sorry

Unknown:

on that note too. Like, here's one thing I've been telling people, often, one of the most important decisions you make as an entrepreneur is who you decide to spend the rest of

KG SHORT STAY:

your life with that's the person you surround yourself with the most, right? Yes, so like,

Unknown:

my wife is complete opposite. She could not stomach a half a day of being an entrepreneur. Like she likes things organised. She's a stay at home mom. Now that was her, that was one of her dreams. But literally, I got this lesson from a mentor early on in life. I was probably like 19 years old, and he told me to sit down and write a list. Don't keep it up here. Write a list of all the things you are looking for in a spouse. And you got to get past the superficial piece of life. She needs to be hot, you got to have long hair. You can have some of that in there, but you got to dig a lot deeper. Like my list was probably 48 things long in terms of what I was looking for in a partner. And what that list does for you, it is not, it's not necessarily about identifying that person. Part of it is, the other piece is, let's say on that list you put I don't want my spouse to be a smoker. Well, you can't be smoking two cartons of cigarettes a day and then expect the person that you're going to be with to not be a smoker. Or you can't say, hey, I want the person I'm going to be with to have a six pack and you're eating Oreos laying on the couch every single night. It doesn't work out like that. So when you write out that list, it helps you identify the type of person that you have to be in order to attract. That type of person into your life. And also the second part of that is a lot of times, I think, the right opportunities the right people come into our lives, but we're not in a headspace to recognise when the right opportunities and the right people have come along. So when you're able to identify these things, if I didn't write that list and my wife hit like, 46 out of the 48 things I had on that list, I wouldn't have been able to identify her once she came into my life had I not written that list out. And I think you can equate that to different areas of your business or your life, whether it's business, your personal life, whatever it is, writing lists is such a game changer. And people like, Oh no, I got it up here. Like, that's antiquated. Like, I'm not writing things down old school. I'm telling you something happens between the mental the spiritual. When you physically write things out, the universe just kind of opens up and says, Okay, this is what you're looking for. You've identified it. We're going to start to create a path to make that happen. So I think writing these things out is extremely important.

KG SHORT STAY:

Yeah, absolutely, do you? Do you journal? I

Unknown:

do not, and that was something I was reading up on the other day. Actually, I was at a conference last week, and a young lady, extremely successful, got a copy of her book while she was while she was at the conference. I immediately jumped into her book, and one of the first thing she said in the book was that that's part of her morning routine. Is journaling for me, it's and now I think back I used to have a journal when I was younger, like 12 or 13. I used to journal every single day, okay, but also recognise where my strengths lie. So I put a tonne of content out on social media. I'm a much better speaker than I am a writer. So writing frustrates me to a certain degree, but I can take that same thought, turn on a video camera and spew that off better than most people could, and I think that's an important note. People need to figure out what their strength is like. Yeah, video content may be great for your brand and the different things you're doing, but if that's not your strength, don't lean that way, like there's still major platforms like Reddit, medium, places like that, where people are blogging, writing these long articles. Even LinkedIn, you can write these long blog posts if that's where your strength lies. Go that way. But journaling is something that I'm currently considering.

KG SHORT STAY:

I mean, I've been, I've been journaling for three years now properly, where I keep it simple, you know, just few things in the morning, few things in the evening, just to set up and end off the day. And I was reflecting back on my journey journaling when I was writing my book, and the year that I started journaling was the first year that we turned over seven figures as a business. So our crazy, right, like, and it was something that just tweaked in I think actually, Kay bought me a book because she saw me starting to do journaling, and she thought, Oh, she'll find me a journal. And she found me this amazing journal, and I've been doing it ever since, and I've not really missed the day so that that's been a massive thing for me about just

Unknown:

the consistency of doing something every day, like, oh yeah, whether it's the gym or writing or going for what like, whatever it is, meditating, whatever it is, if you can get consistent with something and have that discipline, the way you do one thing is the way you do everything, and absolutely the people that are successful or the people that are reaching their goals, that are finding happiness, they're disciplined in just about every area of their life. Because if I do something like that on this side, it has to convert to the other areas of my life.

KG SHORT STAY:

Yeah, no, totally, totally. And you mentioned something about writing down a list of what you wanted in your partner. And I think, I think I sort of did that when, when I left my ex wife, but I met Kay virtually straight away, so that that sort of didn't happen, that list thing. But Kay asked me the other day, why do you love me? And, man, why don't women ask those questions

Unknown:

like that, right? Yeah,

KG SHORT STAY:

and it came to me, so I put it in my book, and it probably, I thought it was perfect answer, but I said, you don't just love me for who I am. Love me for who I'm becoming. And I said that to her, and it made me think, yeah, she doesn't just love me for what I am at the moment and doesn't want me to change. She Loves Me for where I'm going and all the mistakes that I'm going to make along the way, and supports me and pushes me to be that person. Because Kay and I run, well, we run, run our businesses together, and that's probably one of the differences between our relationship and some other relationships like. Yourself, where stay at home mom and she's just not, you know, a motherly person, like that's not, not her thing, like, we've got kids, but she, she, she doesn't mother the kids, and it's amazing to see her work, but we've got opposite personality types. So while I'm the front facing person, like said, and she's more the background, doing all the operations, but yeah, I think finding that right person, having people surround you and continuously educating yourself daily, is is a huge point. I've got, I've got a question. Get a little bit deeper into your story. Can you tell me when was the moment that you thought, yeah, I want to be an entrepreneur. I want to run my own business. What was that made me

Unknown:

do it? I like that question. I like that question. So I'm gonna give you a two parter on this one. I fully believe entrepreneurs are born. They're not me. So you look at somebody like to me, the goat of basketball will always be Michael Jordan. So all you LeBron, yes. Nice to the side. You look at a guy like Michael Jordan, God given like this guy was literally born to play the game of basketball. Now, he took that talent and he worked harder than anybody else ever had to craft his gift, but you could put me in the gym for 15 hours a day. Ain't no way in the world I'm making it to the NBA. Man, it just ain't happening. I'm sorry. And I feel entrepreneurship is that way too, where it's like it's just having the stomach for this man, because it is a up and down roller coaster ride, like it's the moment you feel you're on top of the mountain and you're the most badass entrepreneur that ever existed. You get punched in the gut and that that client leads you or your team screws up something majorly, or something happens, somebody's talking bad about you behind your back, and now it's getting around town, whatever it is, you have to have a stomach for this. So I think it was a combination of things. In terms of, I remember doing an exercise in middle school, and they asked us what we wanted to be when we grew up. I mean, a lot of kids are saying, firefighter, this, that or the other. I still remember this like it was yesterday. The thing I said is, I don't know exactly what I want to be, but I know I want to dress nice and I know I want to work with computers. Those are the only two things that I knew, which is ultimately coming to fruition. But I think it's, uh, the string of actually, no, I can, I can pinpoint for you exactly the book, which I don't rock with this dude as much. But I think this book is a great foundation, Rich Dad, Poor Dad, by Robert Kiyosaki, okay, yeah, cool. I read that book, and it was like, I've been seeing the world in black and white my whole life, and then all of a sudden I could see in colour for the first time. I was like, wait, hold up. They're everyday people owning their own business and doing X, Y and Z, and they're living these lifestyles, like they don't have to go clock in and out and ask their boss to go pee or when they can eat. And like, there's little stuff like that where I'm like, I gotta ask another grow man, like, what if I'm not hungry at 12 o'clock? What if I want to eat lunch at 130 I gotta go on your schedule, like I can't do just didn't sit right with me. But that book was the moment. It confirmed everything for me, like, yeah, I was put on this earth to be an entrepreneur, and that book kind of opened my eyes. And this is at a time where I did not read, like, you have to put a gun in my head to force me to read a book. But a mentor gave me that book, and he said, Man, you need to read this. It's going to change your life. And things were never the same for me after I read that book.

KG SHORT STAY:

Awesome, awesome. Yeah, I just, for some reason, for me, I just always wanted to be the boss.

Unknown:

It costs to be the boss. I'll say that. Yeah,

KG SHORT STAY:

right. And, and, I think you're right. I think people are born to be certain things, but you've got to work at it. Like you don't want to go to the grave with stuff that you haven't realised. And you, if you want to be anything, whatever you are supposed to be, you've got to work hard at it. I mean, look at someone like, you know, Cristiano Ronaldo or Lionel Messi. You know, they they're born with the talent, but if they didn't work as hard as they work, they never would have realised that talent and the most

Unknown:

expensive real estate in the world is a graveyard, because so many people go six feet under with their name still buried.

KG SHORT STAY:

Yeah, no, absolutely. I remember a quote from some I can't remember where it was, but it was, Die empty, you know, get everything out,

Unknown:

yeah, before I want this tape doing already when I go, man, yeah,

KG SHORT STAY:

yeah, so, yeah, no, that's cool. Man, it's nice to hear others perspective, and I think not everyone's. Built to be an entrepreneur, right? Everyone in this world was an entrepreneur. Nothing would ever happen.

Unknown:

No. And I want to say this too, because I feel like entrepreneurship is kind of like pushed on a lot of people. Look, if you're not built for entrepreneurship, that's okay. I'm more concerned with people finding what's going to fulfil them in life. So you may be a great graphic designer, but owning a graphic design business is going to be a nightmare for you. There's nothing wrong with going to work for somebody else that gives you the flexibility to be creative. A lot of people need that structure that's just kind of given to them. Not everybody's brain operates the same way. But to your point, if everybody was an entrepreneur, the world's economy could not survive. Like, there has to be people that work. Some people and sometimes I have envied my employees. Sometimes where it's like, Man, I wish I could just leave here at five o'clock and completely block all this out of my head and just go do whatever like I can, like I cannot turn this off. Like I can't vacation for more than three days at a time because I get stir crazy. I'm like, there's stuff I need to be doing, like, because I feel like, while I'm resting, there's another guy coming from my cramp, so I always gotta be on it. That's not to say don't take time spend with your friends and family, enjoy yourself, blah, blah, blah, all that kind of stuff. I find time for that, but it's, it's just knowing that, like, I just can't shut this off, like it doesn't stop. So you

KG SHORT STAY:

also love what you do, right? Absolutely, and you almost don't feel like you're working when you work. That's why you look forward to Mondays. Yeah,

Unknown:

this is this office is my happy place. Like a lot of people, can't wait to get home from work. I can't wait to leave home and get to work. And that's no thing against my kids or my wife or anything like that. This is what I was born to do. And once you've identified your purpose in this earth and why you are here, man, that's a hunger that nothing else can fill. Like either you're doing what you love, and you know you're fulfilled, and it gives you peace too, like, you know, through my early 20s and and you know, navigating all that, trying to figure out who I am and what I want to do, like, that's a tough time, like, not knowing exactly where you're supposed to fit in, but that moment where you realise, no, that's what I'm supposed to do, and you have something to work after. Yeah,

KG SHORT STAY:

interesting. On purpose. I had this thought the other day, and I wrote it down because it it was quite it was quite profound. Everyone talks about finding your purpose, but I believe that you're born with a purpose. Yeah? So I thought it's not really something that you find it's something that you allow to come through. Yeah, it finds you. It finds you. It's already there. You just have to let it come through and and be, you know, be susceptible to seeing it and hearing it and being part of it, because it's already there. Like Michael Jordan, born to be a basketball player. Christiana Ronaldo, born to be a soccer player, right? We were born to be entrepreneurs and born to help people. Because it sounds like you have that passion to help people as well. Oh, absolutely no.

Unknown:

I think that and that passion piece too. I think sometimes that can be a little bullshit, because I've seen a lot of people follow their passion and go, bro, like understanding what your true purpose is. Like running a business, it's it's not always fun. Like, I'm looking around and there's like, stuff I got to do with my taxes, and I got to do this stuff with payroll, and it's like, this documentation I gotta get off and writing up contracts. Like, I don't want to do this shit like this, not the fun part of my job, but it gets me to the end goal that fulfils my purpose. So you may, ultimately, you know, you may have wanderlust and just want to travel the world. You may be in a field or doing something that's lucrative, making you a lot of money, that you don't necessarily get all that excited about, but it fulfils you in another way. So I don't think people should just immediately go after their passion. Yeah, find out what you're interested in a lane that works for you. I think, find the most lucrative way of doing that. Because I know guys who own like trash removal companies, Dirty Jobs, who wakes up one morning saying, I want to be a garbage man, probably nobody, but the cash flow This dude has is ridiculous. And he vacations like nobody else. He lives a lifestyle like nobody else. He's fully in control of his time, and he's able to take the income that he's making there and make the investments that are making the money while he sleeps. So I caution people like when you're when you're chasing your passion. Let's go back to basketball. You may be passionate about basketball, but you ain't built like that. You may be five, five and 190 pounds. You ain't running up and down nobody's court, right? But guess what? Yeah, there are a tonne of other job the NBA employs way more people in the back office than they. Do that are on the court like you may work in marketing. You may work in recruiting, like they're all. You may work with, you know, an equipment manager, whatever it is. You can be around the sport all day, every day, but basketball may be your passion, but it may be adjacent, and you're still able to work in that space.

KG SHORT STAY:

That's the thing. That's why, you know, I'm talking about living life on your terms, because sometimes you need to have a boring fucking business on the side, or investments that allow you to do the shit that you want to

Unknown:

do right. 1,000% you know your passion isn't

KG SHORT STAY:

making you any money you need, something that makes you money so that you can do that passion?

Unknown:

Yep, most majority of entrepreneurs, I know, if you ask them this one simple question, hey, if your money, if your business was making money hand over fist, and you didn't have to be involved in it, would you be at the office every single day, eight hours a day? Hell no, you're not gonna be doing like, Dude, I love golf. I'm dreaming of the day where I can golf five days a week, right there. There are other businesses that I want to pursue. Like, once this thing gets on autopilot, I'm on to the next thing. Like, right now I'm just curating my team to be able to handle this and continually grow the business without my presence here. To me, I don't really have the business I want until I can completely remove myself from it. Not only does it maintain, but it continues to grow. Yeah, I think

KG SHORT STAY:

you really touched on a good point there. And after this, just touch quickly. We're going to move quickly onto the body and your health, healthy routines and things like that. But you, you mentioned about how, oh, sorry, I lost my trail

Unknown:

of thought, yeah, I do that all the time. After after 30 man, something starts to happen up here. Yeah,

KG SHORT STAY:

I know. Tell me about it. Tell me about it. You, you were talking about, oh, yeah, that was it. So you want to get your business on autopilot. And the trap that I think people fall into is that they just want their business running without them. But that's not the trick. The trick is that it needs to grow without them. Because if your business isn't growing, it's dying, yeah, and that's where it's not on autopilot, because if it doesn't grow, then it doesn't

Unknown:

continue absolutely 1,000%

KG SHORT STAY:

so yeah, no. Really good point on the on the growing aspects. I think a lot of entrepreneurs miss that one, which is, I just need it running without me. No, you need it growing, running and growing. So just to sort of wrap things up, final subject, really, what you So you mentioned about going to the gym, getting up early. Talk me through your routine, to date, routine to keep your body sharp.

Unknown:

Yep. So number one, let me discuss why I go to the gym so early. It ain't because I enjoy it. I would much rather roll over, knock that alarm clock off my nightstand and keep getting keep snoozing. Anybody that gets up that early in the morning, we don't enjoy it. I want people to understand that, but I enjoy the discipline version of myself better than I do the undisciplined version. Because, like I said, the way you do one thing is the way you're going to do everything. It's also the only time of day where I can completely do something for me, 100% undisturbed, especially when you have a wife and kids and you're running a business, the phone is ringing. There's always things because, like, if you're not working, you're wondering if you're spending enough time with your family. When I go to the gym, my wife and kids are still in bed, so it doesn't matter that I'm gone, because they're not going to miss me anyway, because they're unconscious right now at the moment. So getting that in first thing in the morning. Number two, I think, just developing a routine to have every single day. I remember reading the study years ago that it was like, it was like, You're 49% to be 49% more likely to be successful if you make your bed every morning. And it's not the bed piece of it, it's just the fact that you're in a routine and you're disciplined enough to do something every single morning, like my wife makes the bed, and we got like, 20 pillows on it, so she didn't even trust me to make the bed. So I don't have to worry about that piece, but the training part, so I'll say this is a good nugget in this. So a friend of mine, I'm real big on bartering services. You know, that's the way the economy ran years and years ago, where everybody wasn't taking $1 out of their wallet to pay for a service. It was like, Hey, you're a blacksmith. You know, I'm a I heard ghosts. You need goat milk. I need a blacksmith. Let's trade services. So I'm real big on trading services. Like, I haven't paid for maintenance on my vehicles in the last five years. I have a deal with mechanic shop. We manage a social media because they don't want anything to do with it. And anytime I. Something wrong with my vehicle. I need a oil change, tire rotation. I bring it into him. They take care of I never have pulled anything out of my wallet. But the reason I mentioned that is because I have a good friend. Actually, he's been a business partner with me on two different businesses. He runs a staffing business, but he's been working from home, like the last year and a half with his business. So he was kind of getting stir crazy, but he's real big into health and fitness, like this guy used to be before I met him, he was, like, way overweight, and now he's in phenomenal shape, so it's a passion of his. But he also wanted to get outside. So he said, You know what, I'm gonna go get certified. He didn't tell any of us about he just went got a certification. Once he got a certification, he had us all up in group chat, and said, Hey, guys, like, just got my certification as a trainer and nutritionist, I need some help, like putting together my programme. If any of you guys are interested, I'll put together an eight week programme with you, completely free. I just need you guys to help me work out the kinks and get feedback from you. I immediately responded. Said, Oh yeah, man, Sign me up. You're gonna be free training. You gonna get me right? Let's go. I mean, I've been, I've been on programme with him for the lab. We just entered the fifth week of the programme with him. But I mean, biggest thing is just like, keep moving, dude. Like my wife always makes these jokes because we go to two separate gyms at two separate times. Oh, wow. Okay, yeah, she'll see, she'll see some some thought in the gym, like wearing all this Skippy stuff, and she'll make comments to me like, you better not be checking all those girls out when you're in the gym. And I told her my honest response, I get two shits about them girls. I'm married. I don't give a damn. I'm looking at the old guys in the gym that are in super good shape. Oh, great. I'm like, bro, how are you looking better than me? I need the tips. And they all say the same thing, dude, don't stop moving. He's like, I started working out 15 years ago, and I haven't stopped since. And there have been periods in my life where, like, I've gotten in the gym and I was off the gym and I was back in the gym, off the gym, like, COVID screwed me up, and then my wife was basically pregnant throughout COVID. So it's like, you don't want to be an asshole, and she's asking for Dairy Queen. And I'm like, just going to get it for her. Well, I got it. Yeah, right. So, like, I'm gaining all this weight too, and had to look in the mirror and get myself right. But yeah, I mean, I'll do, I start with about 20 minutes of cardio every morning when I get in real big on the weight training aspect. A lot of people think, like, how you drop fat is just doing more cardio, not it's, it's the weight training piece, plus the weight training gives you longevity. So somebody told me before I'm about to butcher this, cardio is for your heart. I can't now, I can't remember what they said about the weight training. Now you just,

KG SHORT STAY:

you're on the you're on the right, you're on the right. So, um, weight training, strength training, is like an armour for your body, yes, and it's it protects you against everything, and it also it helps your bones as well, and the two things that deteriorate as you get older, your bones and your muscles. So yeah, see, CV is for your heart and your cardiac cardiac health and strength is for your protection and your longevity.

Unknown:

And I like getting the cardio in at the beginning, because one thing I do every morning, I go through and I look through all my bank accounts. I look through all my investments. First thing in the morning, I want to get an eyeball on where I am financially. So that's a big thing that I started years ago. I don't go to Instagram first. I go to my financial apps. So while I'm on the treadmill for 20 minutes, I'm glancing through some emails, seeing if there's anything I missed from yesterday. I'm checking my financial statements, all that stuff. I got a podcast going while I'm doing my cardio. I'll bump the heavy tunes once I get into the weight training. But like for the cardio piece, I just like to listen to the podcast. I'm not doing anything at a high intensity level. But here's one of the bigger reasons, too, yes, we want health, for longevity to be around, for our families to perform well as entrepreneurs. Someone I heard someone say this years ago, and it always stuck with me, if you're in shape and you're taking care of your body, you're much more likely to get business as an entrepreneur than someone who is out of shape. Yes, because people are looking at you and saying, it's the presentation. People are looking at you and saying, Man, I can see that guy obviously takes care of his health and he takes care of his body. So if he's given that much attention to detail to himself on a daily basis, I know he's going to handle my account with care. If you sit me next to a guy and we're both pitching the same services, and the guy next to me is 150 pounds overweight, and I'm in the shape that I'm in. Who do you think's

KG SHORT STAY:

gonna get in the business? Well, in my book, there's three things that you need for a healthy body, and they're the same three things that you need for business, and that's discipline, consistency and delayed gratification. If you can, if you can master those three things, not only will you have a healthy body, but you will have a healthy bank account

Unknown:

as well, 1,000% 1,000% and it gives you, I mean, that peace of mind. I mean when you're funny, and I'm not saying I'm at a level financing. To where, like, I got fuck you money or anything like that. I ain't there yet, but I remember the days where I had to, like, scrub through my car and try to find some loose change to put gas in the tank. Like, we gotta worry about that. Like, I was thinking the other day I wouldn't fill up my tank. I remember I used to, every single time I go to the gas station, I have to pull up my bank account to see how much money I had. My accountant, yeah, with the car. And now just the simple fact that I can go to the gas station, pull that pump out and just fill my car all the way up, and don't even have to think about it, dude, that's a blessing. So like, when you can reach those pinnacles in your life, or like, the little things don't matter as much. Like, now the money decisions we make are for big things. Like, are we going to buy this car? Are we going to buy this investment property? Are we going to send our kids to private school? Like the options, the the problems don't stop. In terms of financial there's always going to be something you need to pay for, invest in, whatever the case is, but getting rid of those smaller problems to be able to tackle the bigger things when you're in the right state of mind, mentally, physically and financially, dude, life is just way better. Like people who say money doesn't bring you happiness, they're full of shit. Dude, I ain't never seen nobody frowning on a jet ski. I'm in my happiest place, and it costs money to be on that jet ski.

KG SHORT STAY:

Yeah. No, too, right, yeah. I totally believe in everything that you've just said and and actually, you know, if you can, if you can go through life with enough money that you don't have to worry about the small shit, like your fuel, your groceries, the little things that you buy on Amazon. Like, you know, it's nice to know that I can go on Amazon and buy something for 30 pounds or$30 and and not have to look at my bank account to know whether it's in there. And what people don't realise is there are, there are lots of other people out there that do have the money, so that they don't have to focus on those little things, but still focus on those little things, which distracts them from thinking on the bigger things that are going to get them a much bigger result. Cuz once you can stop focusing on those small things, it doesn't take up any brain power anymore.

Unknown:

Yep, 1,000% like people, one of my favourite financial gurus to follow, guy named Ramit Sethi, like he has a podcast, he just changed the name of his podcast. It was, I'll teach you to be rich, which is the name I think of his first book, to money with couples, is now the new name of his podcast. But he's one of these guys, and the reason I follow him is because he's not one of these financial advisor types that'll say, hey, you need to quit going to Starbucks every single day and blah, blah, blah, like he talks about building your own rich life. And if I'm not a coffee drinker, but if you going to Starbucks every single day and getting that five, $6 cup of mocha frappe, whatever. If that makes you happy, then fucking do it. But yeah, cut out the other bullshit that's not making you happy, like all these other things that you're regularly spending money on to keep up with the Jones. It's like, you know, I realised a while ago, you know, I think as men in particular, like vehicles and what we drive, we think says a lot about us. I realised a while ago, when I when I could afford brand new cars, I don't give a shit about driving a brand new car. This car drives the exact same as the one that I used to get that had 60, 70,000 miles on them when I got it used like I do not care. This thing is just getting me from point A to point B. Now I want to be riding in no bucket, like I have gotten a little bougie. I need the heated seats and the cooling seats and things like the luxuries with your money. Yeah, I got, I gotta have all that. But, man, those features are now in a basic Honda Accord. Now, like, you can get a bare bones Honda Civic, and it has heated seats in the heated steering wheel and Apple CarPlay. So these aren't luxuries that like what they Yeah, but it's like if you cut out those other pieces of your life and take take note of what's really making you happy and where you're spending your money, and realising, you know what, this really doesn't make me happy. Why am I spending money over here? Then you can allocate those funds to spend, invest more money in the places that are going to make you more happy.

KG SHORT STAY:

Excellent. Okay, cool. So thank you for that. Appreciate it. We're going to finish off with a few quick fire questions, if that's okay, all right. So favourite book,

Unknown:

The Slight Edge.

KG SHORT STAY:

The Slight Edge. Interesting. Not read that one. What? Who's that? Who's that? By phenomenal

Unknown:

book. Let me see. No, I think I got that book at home. The guy, the author's name has escaped me. You look up, slight edge on Amazon. Slight Edge. Awesome. Okay,

KG SHORT STAY:

go to snack on the road. Hmm,

Unknown:

I'd say trail mix.

KG SHORT STAY:

Okay, cool. Just a snack on it. I'm more of a I'm more of a beef jerky guy.

Unknown:

I do, I do like a good beef jerky.

KG SHORT STAY:

So what about one myth in business that you would. Banish forever

Unknown:

that running a business is easy.

KG SHORT STAY:

There you go. I've already said it. Everyone thinks. Everyone thinks it's so glamorous, right? You run your own business. You have lots of money. Do you know what? We have a lot of fucking problems as well. Like, and the problems get bigger. Like, last year we we had one of our, well, my head of operations stole $200,000 for us, syphoned it off the business, and that's

Unknown:

your point.

KG SHORT STAY:

Yeah, nuts, but, yeah, bigger, bigger problems. So what about a one top tip for someone that can't quite break through into six figures?

Unknown:

Mm, that's a good one, man. Um, you know what I found? It's, it's literally, well, now I'll go this route. You don't have the right network, and if you don't have the right network, go out and find the people like I met a guy at a conference last week. This guy's owned his own marketing firm for the last 30 years. I had a really good conversation with him. I didn't broach him about doing business with me. One day after the conference, he shoots me at no he gave me a call and said, because there are things my company does that his company doesn't, gives me a call and says, Hey, man, my team's a little overwhelmed. What's your capability? Can you guys knock out this podcast for a client that we're working with? I was like, yeah, man, of course, for you, like, this dude's big week. So somebody on his team called me an hour later. We're finalising the deal now, but when you're connected to the right people, those things happen regularly where it's like this person, like random calls. I used to have to hunt for the business all day, every day. Now the business comes to me when you stop being thirsty with your money and like being willing to bend over backwards to make $1 and you kind of chill out a little bit. It's funny how the money just starts flowing to you, and you don't have to chase after it.

KG SHORT STAY:

You don't find success. You attract success. Absolutely. That's a great one, actually. So if our listeners remember only one thing from today, what would that be apart from the last thing that you just said? Hmm,

Unknown:

is that to be successful in business, you don't have to be the smartest, you don't have to be have the most money, you'd have to be the most educated. You just have to outwork everybody else. And that was the one thing that I knew I could control, was my work, work ethic. I couldn't control what type of family I was born into. I couldn't control my looks, I couldn't control all these other various factors, but the amount of effort that you put forth each and every day, I truly equate whatever level of success I've attained at this point in my life to simply just not quitting, like it's just being around and so many people like I got people that have been following my story for 10 years, that are just now reaching out to me and doing business with me. And I didn't hound these people in the early days, like, Hey, I see your company needs, x, y, z, blah, blah, blah, I'm just gonna keep putting out the content, keep marketing. They're gonna see me, and when they need me, they're gonna call me. And I know they're gonna call me because all the other companies that have started up like me, they've all followed by the wayside. They weren't properly run businesses. They had too much overhead and ended up being cash poor and had to close down the business. But I know I'm going to be around next year, five years and 20 years from

KG SHORT STAY:

now. Excellent. I love that. I love that. So just to finally finish things off, where can people connect with you? And just dive deeper into your work. How would you like people to connect with you? Yep,

Unknown:

if you can't find me online, there's something wrong with your fingers, you just search Mr. Just Google your name, right? Google me, Google me. Just go, uh, my website's the mrpreneur, uh.com, you can go check us out there, my Instagram, all my socials. Mr. Preneur. Sam Anderson, if you, if you search me on Facebook and things like that, but yeah, I'm not hard to find online.

KG SHORT STAY:

Excellent, excellent. Well, thank you very much, Sam. Any any final thoughts that you'd like to leave us with?

Unknown:

I just like to congratulate you, man on, on what you're building here and what you're doing like, you know, just getting to chat with you a little bit and learn about your journey. I'm always excited when people get into the podcast space, because I'm telling you, we are nowhere close to saturation. And I'm not sure what the market looks like in the UK with with what you're building, but they're not enough of podcasts like these. Like, it's great to get the insights from your mark Cubans and your Steve Jobs and all that kind of stuff. But like, you can learn something from everyday people and the people that you're interviewing, the value that you're providing people by getting this podcast going, Man, I just want to say kudos to you, man, and do not stop. Roll at this thing.

KG SHORT STAY:

I don't intend to. I enjoy it too much. Thank you very much, buddy, and I'll speak to you soon. Absolutely appreciate you. Take care if this episode resonated with you. Share it with someone who needs to hear it. You are a carnivore entrepreneur. Live life how it was supposed to be lived on your terms, with strength, energy and purpose. I'll see you on the next episode. You.