SPODA: Julia Rose Barnett, Writer, Tarot Card Reader, Psychic Medium

This episode kicks off with a juicy Ari and Olivia tea time about our latest spiritual practice assignment from Philip Rossi's episode (and how Olivia's throat chakra may need some serious help- send us a chakra specialist!!), how the podcast has changed us, some new hobbies, and some new thoughts (cough: complaints) about this nutso-bananas industry we're in.

Our guest this episode is tarot card reader, writer, and psychic medium Julia Rose Barnett. We dig into all things mystical: spirit guides, spirit sightings, past lives, and more. 

Follow Julia Rose @healwithrose. And follow us @spodapod!

Beautiful music by: Doug Harvey

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Hi. I think this is the first time you, I'm done. Hello? Hello. I think you know what? I purposely was like, oh, we gotta, we gotta bury it up sometimes and I Both arms. Arms are up. His just the gentlest. Hi. Hi. Podcast. My favorite is when we sing the intro. SPO Oda. Welcome to SPO Oda. Welcome back to Spiritual Practices of the Disgruntled Artist, where we interview a new artist each episode to learn how they're keeping themselves sane and spiritually healthy during this epically challenging time to be an artist. Yes. And after, uh, we talked with each guest, we. Choose a spiritual practice or a ritual of some kind that they talk about and implement it for the next two weeks. Mm-hmm. And so, yeah. And by the way, I'm Olivia Spurs. Oh, and by the way, I'm Ari Hader. Uh, and so implement. Good word. Thank you. There you go. Thank you. Thank you. So last time. Yes. Was Phillips Philip Rossi? Yes. When we prayed. Yes. Morning prayers. Morning prayer. Every morning. Yeah. How did it go for you? Okay. I'm so glad.'cause I know we haven't talked about it. Yeah. And I was like, I feel like I wouldn't want to talk about it. Oh, and so, yeah, yeah, yeah. Save it for the podcast. Save it for the podcast. My new favorite phrase podcast is a big friend. Now do not talk to me on podcast. Don't say anything. Interesting. Yes. Boring stuff. Your life. So, uh, I knew that this one was gonna be a little difficult. Yeah. Because you, because you brought up quite a bit that you don't feel like you prayed. Yeah. I don't pray and I figured it out. Why? It's, it's s it's the speaking part. Mm. I, I have no problem like sitting there silently talking to the universe in my mind. Sure. Like, or, you know, doing that I live in my mind, but. I remember the first time when I did it, I like, I felt a block in my throat. Wow. This is interesting. I'm pulling out my notebook, so did you say the word God? Was it the word God? No. Okay. It wasn't word God. No. You just said, you said mother. I said dear. I said I think I, I think I said universe. I kind of varied it up. Okay. I think I ended up saying universe that felt the more, and then I also realized, I think it just felt formal.'cause I kept on saying, dear universe, dear I, that's me, a lady dear. Do you know me? Do you know me? I have brown hair and I live in North Hollywood. And it would, okay. Um, so. Yeah. So I was like, okay, I I noted that. Yeah. And then, then, and it's not like,'cause I did it in my car. And I was alone, you know, it wasn't like I had fear of anyone like hearing coming or hearing me. But I I did it, and I just felt like unnatural. Wow. I, that's all I can What, what did you pray for? I, I, I did very much like the, the focus on gratitude. Okay. Like, I, like was like, I didn't say this exactly, but something of like, dear universe, I just wanna thank you for, my healthy body. And I just kind of would just like, just. Say, I didn't plan on what I was saying. I would just would like, thank you for this, this, and anything I can think of, you know, kinda like a gratitude list more or less. Yeah. And then I was like, please give strength or love too. And then. Anyone that came up. Oh, really? You know, like that. So I kind of, that's how I finished it. That was like more or less the like setup that I kind of, that felt natural. But it was interesting. Like I could do that. No problems meditating. Like I do that meditating. Right. But it was the vocalizing for me that was like, I was like, I wonder why that is. I don't know. I don't know. It got easier. Okay. Yeah, it did get, it did get easier. But did you ever enjoy it? Not really. Really? Not really. Like, I think I liked, I think there was maybe, um, a time where, um, there was a little bit of like health scare stuff for me that happened. I'll tell you both. Is that all? Everything's okay. Everything's okay. Okay. But it was like kind of scary. And then also like family members too. So I think that then I felt. More like, you know, please do this, do that. But I've also felt myself afterwards, like silently doing it instead of vocalizing it. The same thing you said. Same thing, but I, like, I, I don't, yes. Here are some of my, here's some of my just hot takes on that. Okay. Hot takes, hot takes one. Throat chakra. I, that's what I was thinking. Like some sort of block. Yeah. It must have been, I don't know a lot about the chakras and like what they mean, but like I think they do like symbolize different things, right? Yeah. Yeah. I did. I definitely thought about that. I was like, there's something, there's something there.'cause it just felt unnatural. And I don't know if it was like, I really try to think about it'cause I was like, no, the act of what I'm doing, what I'm saying mm-hmm. Doesn't feel weird or strange to me again.'cause I feel like I've done this meditating. Yeah. So I don't know. It just felt, I don't know. And maybe. It's because I wasn't clear on who I was talking to. Mm. But then do you feel clear when you're silent? Yeah. Or just see. Okay. Like, because it might was so, I guess I'm not thinking about it as much. Yeah. I'm just kinda like, I, I want this, I, I desire this. I'm, I'm wishing for this. Yes. You know, whatever. Putting that out there. And I think the act of praying was like. This declaration and almost made it kind of scarier. Here's my other thought. When you're silent, yeah. You're not expecting a response. But when you talk aloud, I wonder if you either were afraid of getting a response in your mind. Yeah. Or you just, it felt weird to say something and not have anybody say something. Back to you. Yeah. Oh no. It was weird. That's weird. That's really interesting. So, I mean, do have you. When you first started praying, did you that, how'd it go for you? Okay. It, how did it go for you? It went well for me. I kind of combined, so I did the morning prayer and it was, for me, it was more about like intention for the day.'cause like I already prayed so it. Like, please let this day, and I was to God. Mm-hmm. I would say I was like God. Okay. And, um, intention for the day and also something to release, which I got from Kate when Kate said that. Oh. So I kind of incorporated that into, I like that of just like, because I have, my prayer at night, which is like this sort of thing that I say all the time. Yeah. And, and what I did like about it was it really, I felt like set up my day to be like, this is what I'm kind of focusing on today. Yeah. This is what I'm sort of trying to release today. And it was nice. I mean, I've kept it around, like I haven't gotten rid of it. I think I will keep it around. Like I have a, an alert on my phone at nine to say a morning prayer, take my vitamins. Like it does feel, I dunno, like my bottom ones, you know. It, it did feel, that's so interesting about you not wanting to, to speak it. It, I know I was Do you just feel more connected when you're silent? Like, is there any of that? I guess so. It, it's so funny too because. I guess I, uh, uh, if we're gonna bring this back to like artistry and stuff like that, yeah, that is kind of where I feel the least. Uh, that's where feel the weakest. Your voice is my voice. Whoa. Okay. So, so, because that makes sense because you do a lot of clowning and stuff. So do you feel you feel the most comfortable when you're not speaking? You know what, maybe I feel very powerful'cause I think I'm very good at expressing myself. Yeah. Silently, uhhuh. Not that I don't. I, I also love a monologue, like I'm not afraid of it. Right. But, and like, I'm currently doing Shakespeare, right. So like, it's not that I can't do it, I just think like if I were to lay out all of my, talents mm-hmm. That is the one. Like I know I mumble. I know. And I, it's what's I've been, it's what I've been critiqued on the most. Yes. Right, right, right. So I think it's not that I'm not good in it, not. That I don't enjoy it. Yeah. Um, but I also don't consider myself an articulate person. I'm sure a lot of people, I think I've even said this one little podcast before. Mm-hmm. I think you're very articulate. Thank you. But a lot of times I like forget words. Like I just don't feel, you know, connected to your voice as, as connected to, to my voice. Do you feel that this is worth exploring for you? Yeah, and I think the podcast is part of the exploring for me. Yes. Yeah. Okay.'cause I was gonna ask, so first of all also I had that too, but in film acting mm-hmm. I felt like right at like kind of the end of NYU into my professional career, I felt like I really believed myself when I saw myself on camera and I wasn't talking. And then when I started talking, I felt like I lost truth. And it took me a while to combine those eventually It combined. Yeah. Where like, I feel. Equally truthful. Now, was it just like, sorry to cut you off. Was it like timing? Was it just like building that up or was it like something I think it, we, I think it was like seeing yourself on camera a lot and learning. Yeah. And like,'cause there are ticks and you can tell when you're nervous and just being like, I'm just dropping. I kinda like dropping into like, this is the, this is my voice, this, you know? Yeah. So wait, this is what also what I was gonna ask you. Okay. How has this podcast affected or changed your spirituality or voice or anything? I think it's just like revamped it. Yeah. In its own way.'cause I feel like so often, you know, I, I think on our first episode I talk about how I'm just not persistent. Mm-hmm. And like, even though obviously we're trying new things each week, it's not persistent in the same thing, but it's doing something. Yeah. And I think that. It's just been a joy to connect with mm-hmm. People and, and, and even people who haven't been on the podcast yet, um, and friends who have been listening and stuff like that. It's just been, I don't know. I know that's not spiritual, but like, I think it all kind of, you know what I mean? Like, it just, it feels good. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's been great. Thanks guys. Yeah. Thanks guys. Yeah. No, it has been great. It's been great and Also, it's just making me, first of all, it's been so interesting. To have a conversation with a person. Yeah. Feel some way about it and then listen to it back and see why. Yeah. And it has only helped me realize like your kind of gut about something like, I mean. Almost everybody. I, yeah, I feel like it's been like, that was great. And then you see why it's'cause like they led with vulnerability or Right. You learn something new about a person that you've known for a really long time or whatever. Like there's a reason why you feel that way. Yeah. And we so rarely get that opportunity to just have a candid conversation and then be able to play it back. I'm like, ho, I mean, I kind of wanna go around with a recorder, recorder, but like, you know, it just it's really, it's been really fascinating. It's been fun. I've also been so excited to, is it, I don't know how, how do you feel? Do, who do you, who are you most excited to interview? Is it people that you don't know, like friends that I'm bringing on? Or friends that you're bringing on that you're close with and like, I think I'm more excited to interview your friends. That's funny. That I don't know. And I'm more nervous in some ways when it's somebody I know. Yes. I feel the exact same way. Really? Yeah, because I think. I, I think for me it's like, oh, I don't know this person. Yes. It's blank slate. Right. You know? Yeah. Where I feel like other people, I remember kind of being nervous for grants a little bit. Yeah. I know so much. Mm-hmm. You know, but no, it turned out well, yeah. Yeah. It's also been, it's also been really fun to do people that we know and like. Get into it.'cause you're right, we don't really talk about this. I know. The other thing is that for me, it really has re reminded me that like everyone's just doing their best. Mm-hmm. You know? Yeah. And I think every person we've had on is just like a wonderful person also. So we're not like we're having any shitty people on here where I'm like, Hey, you're not as shitty as I thought you were, or whatever. Like, everybody I knew was wonderful. But yeah, everyone's doing their best. We're all trying to keep ourselves in a good spot. No one's quitting on themselves. Right. What has been your favorite thing? Trying on hmm. Okay. Let me think what we've had. We've had grant sweating, sweating. We had my five minute meditation manage. Yep. And the prayer, My favorite, I mean, I think it's probably gonna have to be the morning prayer, because I think I'll, I'll keep that one around though. Five minute meditation. Silent meditation did teach me something of like, you can meditate in more places anytime. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think that did too. And there is something with grants, like I've been trying to be more sweaty, physical in gender and sweaty, trying to be more sweaty. I'm already feeling it right now. Um, I was gonna say, I feel like I learned another spiritual practice of myself, which kind of really. I in some ways is like what we're doing here, which is I think doing new things as part of my spiritual practice. Yes. And you have been doing Nancy and, and now I was also thinking about the sort of nudges from the universe that we talk about a lot. Yeah. And how at this point in my journey, I will get a nudge to do something or email someone or whatever, and I will just do it. Okay. I won't ask a question until later. And that's kinda what salsa dancing was. I was like, I, I really like my warm yoga studio, but on the weekdays it's not intense yoga. I wanna, I don't, like, I don't wanna be doing light yoga right now. Like I wanna be doing intense yoga. Something else. You like the intense workout? I do. You like the intense, I'm like, that's good. I also don't have a ton of time. You know what I mean? Yeah. Oh, thats true. That's true. To be if I'm gonna do it, it's gotta be Yes. Good for my brain or my body. Yeah. Preferably both. Yeah. So how, how is it going? Okay, so it's going, I've taken two classes so far. Okay. First of all, it just, it made me be like, there are so many people in the world that we will not meet. And if you choose to do a new thing, you will meet new people. Like I am dancing with, I, I don't know if we're gonna be friends or not, or never see each other again or not. Yeah. But, I'm meeting people in life. Yeah. Who like, how would I ever meet them? Otherwise I wouldn't. Yeah. So that's been interesting. And then, yeah. Yeah. We don't think about it. That seems so obvious. Yeah, but it's also like. You're right. That's such a, anything you do. I think that's also why I love classes.'cause you are with people. Yeah. And also for me,'cause I'm just with my two lovely, adorable children, but I don't have a lot of adult interac. Adult, yeah. Adult time you need them. Yeah. Yeah. So that's also been weird'cause it's like you're Dan, I mean it's like si I, I'm saying single, not that people are single, but like you can go as a one person. Yeah. You don't have to go as a couple. And they like mix and match you with people. It's very small. Philip ever do south. Oh, he would love to like, oh my God, so cute. He's like having me teach him moves and stuff, you know? But like. Yeah, so that, and so now, now you're also, not only are you just around new people, you're like dancing with them. Like my sweaty hand is in their sometimes sweaty sweat, mostly not sweaty hand, you know, and we're like spinning, like there's like. Contact. It's an intimate, it's an intimate, yes. Sport. I was gonna say sport. It's a dance. It's, yeah. And it's, it's also so old, like, it's like has this tradition, but, but that also makes it like really gendered. Women are kind of. Are the followers. You look like this. Yeah. And like, men look like this and they wear this and you wear this yeah. That you've kind of stepped into this thing that like existed before you and this is how they see people. Right. And like, it's great that I'm there for me and it's also probably great that I'm there for them. Like, honestly, you know what I mean? To be like, all people can do this thing. Yeah. I also feel like I really wanna show my daughters that you can try new things. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Even if you feel uncomfortable or it's hard. Yeah. Because I think when I, I did gymnastics for so long and that's like what I did. Right. Like three to 17, that was my story. It was all consuming. I mean, there, there wasn't time. Yeah. You know, I took an acting class on the side. I guess I did that. And I was like kind of in band. Okay. I did other things. I was in band. Oh my God. But I wasn't like, I wasn't like, okay, I'm gonna stop doing gymnastics now and. Do whatever, like swim, be, swim, whatever. Yeah. Because it's scary. It becomes, stuff becomes part of your identity so fast. Yes. Where you're like, I'm a gymnast, it's what I do and I'm gonna lean on that. Yeah. And I think what I want, I, it's so funny, it's scares me, but I also love it is like being new at something. Mm-hmm. Such a thrill for me. And I think a lot of people, uh, would relate to this I idea of some people don't wanna do anything until they're good at it. Yes. But like, how do you get good at it? You can't, you gotta, you gotta be bad at something for a little bit before you're good. Yeah. And what's funny is, I, I think we even talked about this too, was like, I like being in that sometimes. Mm-hmm. Because then I have no expectation for myself. Yeah. The moment I cross that threshold of like, I'm a little bit good at it. Yeah. You know, I've had experience. Now I almost feel like there's no excuse of being bad or you know, I'm like more afraid to be bad. Interesting. Halfway through. Something separate, but related question. Yeah. If you were to audition for a friend of yours, would that cause you more stress than auditioning for a stranger? Who has never seen your work before? Probably. Probably. That's how I am. Little bit more. Yeah, definitely. It depends who it is. Yeah. If I was also shooting for you, I feel like, like just gimme a bump. I this in the bag. I don't how this, but you know what I mean? I think. But I think there is that pressure of like, yeah. I think the same thing. They, you know, that person's has an expectation. Has an expectations. Yeah. And so that would be hard to, to try to make, to make sure you meet that expectation that you are putting in their head.'cause you don't know their expectations. Right. But you are expecting. Oh, they know me so they know this and this and this. So this is probably what they're expecting. Yeah. Yeah. And you know what's funny? It's like it is scary to try new things, but then when you're in a new class, everyone is so nice. You know what I mean? Everyone so nice. So like we all start somewhere. Everybody had their first salsa dance class. Nobody is like, get out here. You know? Oh, yours is your first time. This is a class. Yeah, this for learning. Bye. You know? Yeah. And I think that too. I think that's actually like, it's so funny'cause that like summer's come in. Mm-hmm. And if summer feels like such a time to explore and Yeah. I really wanna take that on. I know. I know that we're gonna get another thing, but I really like, I don't know, I think you've inspired me to find, find my salsa. Yeah. Love that. Find out what that is. Love that. Do you feel called to do anything? Like even if you don't know why. I do, I I've mentioned hula hoop again. Yeah. And I've been seeing a lot of,'cause I, I have, I have two hula hoops. Mm-hmm. Three. It's a lot of H hoops or something. H hoop, H hooping. Oh my gosh. Side note, this could be edited out, but really funny. This is a, like, symbolism. Okay. At its core, at its strength, at its what, at its finest is, um. Two, the hula hoops we're hanging out in the our backyard. Mm-hmm. And for those who don't know, it's like covered in bamboo. Bamboo has become quickly one of my favorite plants because it is insane. It grows so fast. Really so quickly. It's, it's incredible. And some of the strongest plants, like this thing like was pushing a chair. Mm-hmm. Whoa. Yes. Yeah. It will like push furniture. It's like get outta my what is very strong. And I must have like put, I just like was cleaning around. I put the H hoops kind of like to the side and it's been so long that, uh. A bamboo shoot has shot through, and I'm not joking, 10 feet, whoa, bamboo. But, uh, but we were actually able to bending, like, oh my God. Shifted, not, not having to cut it, but I was like, oh my God, the hoops are stuck. But honestly, that's, that's a week, that's like a week or two. Wow. Yes. No, it's kind of crazy, but It felt like a sign. It felt like a sign. It felt like a sign. I love that. I was like, okay, you should hula hoop. I should hula hoop. And is the, this is the time to do it. Yeah. And you never, that's the thing, you never know where that could lead you. Yeah. You could do that and you could meet a fellow hula hooper who is like, let's make a, pilot about hula hooping. Yeah. And then that'd be fun. Then tomorrow it's on Netflix, you know? That'd be great. I've heard get to Hulu then. Yeah. I better, I better get to No, but yeah. And also too, I think it's just good. And I think this kind of leads into it is like. The play is about to start. Yep. So. I've already felt the fear of like, I have nothing after this. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yes. And like I've, before you even started, before I even started and I was just like, come on, Olivia. And so there's a couple things I'm trying to do to combat that feeling. Yeah. Natural feeling. Yep. Natural feeling. Yep. Especially in this industry, we're all gonna feel it. We're not judging the feeling. Not judging the feeling, but I think. I need to reframe it in a positive way that makes sense to me Obviously post show blues is a real thing. Mm-hmm. You know, and I'm really gonna miss it'cause I've had a really good time on the show. Yeah. And I, and the reason I really thought about this is like, I was like, oh, there's been other shows where I haven't had a great time. Mm-hmm. You know, but, um. There's that relief, like it's over, but there's still, even though there's that relief mm-hmm. There was still that fear. Regardless, I feel like that fear was, regardless if it's a show that I'm really just genuinely gonna be sad, it's over and I had a great time versus a show that I was just happy to be doing something right. And I think I've moved past that. I think I've matured enough or been around a long enough that I am now not doing shows that I don't. Wanna be a part of anymore. Mm-hmm. Just to be a part of a show. Yep. Um, but I remembered that feeling of like, okay, well we all know shows end. Yes. You know, we know that's gonna happen. And with shows that you don't really care about. It was more like, great, I what's next mm-hmm. Onto something new. And I was like, maybe I take that feeling and even with the shows, I still love Yes. And, and reframe that of okay. Instead of the scaries what's the possibilities? Like what are the, you know, get excited about it. Yes. And it's, it's work. Yeah. Though it's more work, mental work, mental work. But I think doing something new mm-hmm. Would help, because. It could be a, it could be a while. Yeah. Right. You know, or like, or it could not be. Yes. I mean, you don't know. We don't, we don't know. Right. But I think being proactive in setting something up for myself, whether it's acting or not, right? Yes. Obviously that is what I'm aim for, but if it is doing the salsa or. Doing the hula hoop or doing something new. Yep, yep. It's something to look forward to. Mm-hmm. And it's something that in the end, like we, like we just said, yeah. It's going to help us. Yes. Whether it's a connection or just something, a skill or Yeah. A skill. Yeah. Yeah. So anyways, i'm trying really hard, but I've already felt it, like, yes. Itching, crawling in of like, I have a, I, this is something I wanted to tell you about and I feel like it could help you with this. Okay. Okay. So I was listening to another podcast. Okay. And she talks about a universe box. Okay. So she, she has a box. Okay. I know. So excited. Your eyes just sparkled. So she has a box. Okay. And she writes on a piece of paper. I have it written down here. Okay. Okay. Thank you universe for taking this from me. Write down the desire. So I wrote like, thank you universe for taking the desire for me to book a series, regular role. Okay. And then you say, I Welcome. What is of the highest good for all. Okay. And you put it into the box, and it's kind of the same concept as what we talked about in episode one with me being like, I'm gonna think about it in two years. Right. Whenever I had a doubt being like, in two years I'm gonna think about it. Mm-hmm. I'm gonna think about, it's kind of that of me being like, it's in the box, it's in the universe, box. You know? Yeah. And it, and I think it helps, I don't think it's like a bandaid fix all thing, but I think it does help, at least for me to be like, yeah. I want this. Yeah. I put it into the world. I take steps. Mm-hmm. Towards getting that. Yes, yes. Yeah. If I feel called to do something, I do it. I take all of like the normal steps as well, you know? Yeah. But it's in the box. I also think this very, feels very similar of when you write something down, then burn it. Yes. You know, it's like, it's like that release feeling. Yeah. Um, yeah. I think'cause I think if you want something, there's a chance it's not gonna go your way. It's like what we talked about with Philip. Yeah. It might not be a cookie. It might be a brownie. It might be a brownie, yeah. Or it might be a cookie, but it might be farther away than you want to. But there's gonna be a reason why. I mean, I think that's why it's important to be like, I welcome what is of the highest good for all. Because we have to take into account that we don't know, all of the puzzle pieces of our lives. Yeah. And I think too, doing that is being like, I trust there's this element of trust. Mm-hmm. And knowing, and there's also like, it's like you're not distracted by it. Yes. And you can enjoy. The life that we're given, and the actual opportunities will show this way. You know, I wonder how many times there have been opportunities that we've been too distracted.'cause we're thinking this is, is how I'm, but that's one thing. Gonna do this. Yeah. You know, and that could have been the door that could have been Right. You know, the kitchen to the cookies, you know, like, wow, I didn't think about that before. If you didn't listen to Philip's episode, the metaphor could be a little confusing. I'm just looking up this actress because I wanted to reference her and I forget her name. What was her name? Christina. Who's that actor who she's got just got diagnosed with something terrible. Oh, Christina, I dunno. Applegate, what? What's she been? Not just, but Multiple sclerosis. Oh, I did not know that. Yeah. How old is she? She's only 53. Oh yeah. But like when I think about like the puzzle piece thing, And this is, it is hard'cause this is adjacent to what me and you are working on fixing in ourselves. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Which is the, if something good happens, that means something bad must happen. Yeah. I must pay for it. Yeah. I must pay for it. Yeah. Or like at least whatever Yes. This is like kind of railroad. So I'm like really trying to keep them separate in my mind, But the puzzle piece thing, Christina Applegate has had an incredible career, incredible actress, you know, and now she's 53 and she's got multiple sclerosis, and like, would I trade my life with her life? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. I wouldn't, yeah. I, I would never, I would rather never, but see here, here I go again. Now I'm on the other train track, right? Where it's like. That's how close it's for me, where I was about to say I would rather never Right. Get where I wanna be. Right. And not have multiple sclerosis. Right. Right. Like, these have to be two different tracks. Right. But I think we, there's room to appreciate Yeah. We don't know all the puzzle pieces. We don't, no. I feel like it's a great way for us this the universe box, the universe box. And I also keep on thinking the practice of gratitude. She literally thinks the universe, thank you for taking this. Mm-hmm. And gratitude is kind of going back to the question of like, what's, what's been your biggest takeaway from the podcast? Yeah. Just is like, I think gratitude is key. Yep. Because it all ties into everything we've just talked about of you gotta be grateful for the wins that we do have. Mm-hmm. Career or not. Yep. If we keep on doing that, that can help us reframe the I'm trying to think of a good way to phrase this sensation thing that we're working. Yeah. Plus or minus theory. Yes. Yeah. I don't know this idea that. Universe must be imbalance or something. Yes, yes. Idea. Yeah. That if something good happens, something bad has to happen to counteract it happen. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. It's hard. It's just such a hard career again. It's crazy. It's, it's hard'cause it just, it's so hard to stay. I think that's, that's really one of the reasons why I wanted to do this. I'm hoping that I can, and I feel like I've done a pretty good job of staying pretty consistently in a positive mind to space. But it's so hard when then,, you haven't had auditions from your agent in like three months, you know what I mean? And then all of a sudden it's so easy to spiral down, down, down. You know? Yeah. It just, it's so easy to get yourself out of it. There's so much work going into keeping ourselves Yeah. In a good space and you can get to derailed on it like so easily. So I think that's it too, is like, that's how I feel we know when it, yeah. When it is going well, we're just like, yeah, well that's because I do all these things. All these things. And then your challenge and it sometimes that could all just fall through. Right. And I could have a complete meltdown, you know, but like the bounce back is faster. That's what I've noticed in myself since I started this whole thing. Coming back from that is faster than it was. I don't know, eight, yeah. Nine years ago where I would be like depressed for a month or whatever. Yeah. I don't get to that point. Yeah. But it's so hard to stay in a positive Yeah. Way, you know? And I think there's also too, the longer we're in it, it's also like maybe the stubbornness of I. No, we shouldn't be made to feel this way. Mm. Like, I refuse to feel this way. Right. We can't, it's not healthy. It's not good. Yeah. What's the point of doing this if it's gonna make me feel this way? Majority of the time. Right. I think a lot of it too, it just comes back to, we genuinely want this. Mm-hmm. You know, and I know that this is, that's a big question for people who are like. Maybe leaving the industry or whatever. That's what you grapple with, is it worth the, yeah, I was gonna say, it's so constricted right now. Like I, what I'm getting upset about right now. Is the celebrities are fricking everywhere. Yeah, yeah. Everywhere. They're doing commercials. Yeah, they're doing Broadway, they're doing Netflix, they're doing movies, they're doing every, and I, and I also understand, it's like they are used to a certain lifestyle and like work time and because of the strikes and Yeah. And everything that happened in the past couple years. Like they're feeling it. So they're taking anything they can, yeah. So we're feeling it double. But it's hard not to be I mean, it has made me be like, when I get really big in my rider, it will say at least one actor needs to be an unknown. An unknown. That's cool. You know? Yeah. Like, not that they can have a couple credits here and there, but like if you're between this person who has more credits than this person, choose the person with the link, because otherwise it's just gonna be the same 40 people that are working all the time. It's, it feels so hard. Yeah. Yeah. It feels like they are not even feeling secure, right? No, no. Obviously they're taking all this stuff, like coffee commercials and all that stuff. I'm like, you guys really need that? Yeah. I don't know. It's hard to watch, but yeah, it is hard to watch.'cause it's like, can you blame'em? Right. But also you know, do they need it? And so it's a bit, it's, yeah, but also they're probably being offered, you know? Yeah. And they have, they can do whatever they, I mean, they can do whatever they want. They whatever want they, they have the name to be like, I'm gonna do this now. Oh, our guest is here. Oh, perfect. Well look at that timing. This might be its own episode. Maybe s, maybe. No. Ladies and gentlemen, let me, uh, bring on August. Julia Rose Barnett, she's a writer, she's a playwright, she's a psychic medium. She's a tarot card reader. She's all the things. Woo. Welcome. Welcome to our podcast. Oh, thank you so much. What a great introduction. Uh, we like to start by. You have the choice. Yeah. You can choose a deck of tarot or Oracle cards and we pull a card or we can do three deep breaths together. Ooh. Or both. Well, you know what's funny? I was wondering when I could surprise you with this, but I brought two of my decks. Yep, yep. Great. Yep, yep, yep, so actually what's funny is you guys intuitively picked up on how I do readings because I always start them with three deep breaths. Really? So we'll actually do it. Oh, always. We can do, let's do three deep breaths. Okay. Close our eyes and just join me. I'm gonna knock the on the deck three times,'cause that's what you do to clear the energy and just take a deep satiating breath in as I shuffle inside out gently. Second breath in a little deeper and release and final breath, deepest of the dick. Connect it to your belly and sigh it out gently. Gorgeous. Now gently open your eyes. You such a soothing voice. You really do. Oh, thank you so much. You know, I, I thank you a for teaching me. I talked Julia acting for a brief time. Oh. And it was brilliant because you're brilliant. I always say that. Well, the card that we got is the Four of Wands, which is amazing'cause we're in Aries season. And like Aries, the Wands part of the deck is the fire element. Mm-hmm. And the four of Wands is celebration. I mean, if you look at this card, it's two girls just at a festival celebrating and. you know, we're together celebrating right now. Yeah. So it makes a lot of sense. Oh, I love it. Yeah. Does that resonate with you guys? Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Let me ask you a question, then I ask Olivia about cards.'cause one of Olivia's practice that I took mm-hmm. Was pulling an OR card every night. Oh, I love that. And I asked her, like, when you pull a card, do you think something is speaking through it to you? Or how, what do you feel like it is that's speaking through the cards? It's everything. Okay. It's yourself. It's your higher self. It's your guides, it's your source of light, whether you wanna call that God source, uh, spirit universe. It's all, it's all the same. I mean, I will say the energy of the names are slightly different to me. And, you know, I'm still understanding that because. My father would always say, when you think you know nothing, you know something. And even with spiritual awakenings and revelations, you, you learn so much. But you still, there's still clues. There's still like, oh, it's like, I know things, but I still don't know things. You know? Yes. You believe you have spirit guides? Yeah. Do you know who they are? Yes, I've seen them. Really, the first spirit I ever saw were my grandparents and my uncle when I was nine years old. Wow. Wow. Yeah. I grew up in, well, I mean area, we grew up in the same area, but the town that I was in, Shrewsbury, one of the oldest towns in the United States. Mm-hmm. And I grew up in a 200 year old house where. We saw things. We heard things. It was actually, uh, the neighbor, it's the neighboring house to the estate that seven of our presidents used to vacation at from Ulysses s. Grant to, but Wilson, so Wow. And my house was the servant's house. So needless to say, it was really haunted. Effing haunted. Yes. And I remember my, my sisters, my parents and I, we were coming home from the movies it was nighttime. We come in through the kitchen door and there were just two men and one woman. And we hear the woman say, what are we going to do about Julia? And Oh yeah. And my dad was like, mom, dad, Craig. It was my grandparents and my uncle Craig. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Whoa. Yeah. Definitely like a pivotal memory where it was actually really difficult to navigate. If I'm gonna be honest with you, I was nine and, you know, hear all of us hearing, what are we gonna do about Julia? I was like, what are we gonna do about Julia? Yeah. What are gonna do about her? Tell me what's there do. Oh gosh. Like I'm even going to beauty at that time. There's a lot of life to live. But no, it's been, I will say, I think it's because I chose to go down this path because. My family. We all have it in us, but it was kind of hush hush because of religion. Um, my mom, I was raised Catholic. Mm-hmm. My father's also Jewish. He actually had to convert to Catholicism in order to marry my mother.'cause I'm first generation Italian, so very religious. Mm-hmm. But the thing is, what was so interesting is even though I come from like my great-grandmother who I look just like, would interpret people's dreams in Sicily and my grandmother would be able to predict cousins and wives of people. They were, they were rooted in such religion. Like my grandmother's patron saints are saint. Theres, who showers you with red roses when true love is near or when an illness is cured? And Padro p um, like we have even so many stories where there have been miracles. Like my, my uncle was cured of cancer Wow. From my grandparents devoting themselves to doing the rosaries. Um. My, I mean, so many of us have found our partners by just seeing red roses because of my grandmother. Mm-hmm. Even after Hurricane Sandy, when I lost my home, um, my grandmother reminded me of St. Therese and that next day when I first visited my home, after just seeing it like destroyed my sister and I found a felt pink rose. Oh, wow. Right in our backyard. Wow. It was incredible. So things like that just happened and I never expected it. I never asked for it. I never even. I didn't even know what spirituality was. Mm-hmm. All I knew is that I was like hearing things and seeing things growing up. So, yeah. How do they feel? What was your sort of movement towards this version of spirituality, which is not religious? Mm-hmm. It seems like. Is that correct, would you say? Or do you feel like you are religious? I think there's a balance. Like, I'll even show you the necklaces that I'm wearing right now. Now, wait. Whoa. I love,'cause I think, here's a metaphor. So this one is selenite, which is like a beautiful white crystal, and then tur Moline, which is like a little black line. And then I have my mother Mary pendant because I have a deep connection to Mother Mary. I've seen her in visions. So this has a lot of, it just has a lot of energy and I, I always carry it with me whenever I go outside of my home. What does Mother Mary mean to you?. Um, miracles actually. Miracles creation and understanding that you have the power in you to create whatever you want.'cause think about it. She didn't need a man to birth Jesus. Mm-hmm. You know? Um, so you don't need anybody. Yes, of course you need community and you need support. However, it is your mind that creates everything. Like even in tarot, the swords aspect of the deck is all about the mind, and it's also associated with luck. So luck is fostered from a a mindset that allows you to grow and expand into who you truly want to become and who you choose to become.'cause they're one and the same. Do you feel that everything happens for a reason? Totally.'cause you choose it. Ooh, I love that. Yeah. So you think you have total free will. Yeah. And then do you think that your spirit guides nudge you towards making decisions or the universe or God or saints? I think it's, it's both, but it depends on the circumstance. Like, I always tell my clients the future is fate meets choice or choice meets fate. They, they're a spectrum. They come interchangeably. There are certain things that are just meant for you, like your parents, like you, you didn't actively say, oh, these are gonna be my parents, unless you believe in like past lives and whatever on the other side. Mm-hmm. Um, yeah, like your parents, your talents, your line of work, um, even your friends, certain people that enter your life, those are moments of fate. But how you get there and when is up to you. And there are multiple possibilities. I mean, I think getting, receiving a reading, like a tarot reading or an astrology reading, it's very misunderstood because people think, oh, I can just ask, is he the one or is this the job that I need to get? Or, when is this happening? No, you, you decide that. Mm-hmm. You know, you could meet your person, but you have to do the internal work on yourself and have such a strong sense of self and even stronger sense of self worth to maintain the momentum of a long-term partnership, yes, there is logic embedded in intuition and so on and so forth. Like that's just duality. Mm-hmm. I hope that makes sense. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. What are your current spiritual practices that you do day to day right now? Well, every morning I work out, and that includes either Pilates or yoga. There is a spiritual element to athletics. It puts you in. That meant in that, that state, like my, my father was a really big athlete, um, like he was. He was supposed to be in the Olympics for diving, was an all American athlete and he definitely has like very spiritual stuff going on too.'cause he's a chiropractor. I didn't realize this, but apparently that's also a very spiritual line of work as well. I mean, you could say there's spirituality in all lines of work, but honestly what I notice for the most part, the artist way is the shamans way, especially as actors for what you guys do and what I did in my formative years. Um, yeah, you're basically a medium. Mm. You're interesting. You're taking on someone else and you're understanding them and understanding their perspective and. Making choices and understanding why they're making those choices. That's spiritual work. That's what you uncover in tarot? Yeah. Oh, and if anything, being an actor prepared me to do this work. Mm-hmm. So, so exercise is one. Mm-hmm. If one of your practices, is there any other day to day thing? Oh, meditation. I have to meditate. There's how, what's your, do you do guided or silent or what's your meditation deal? It depends on how I'm feeling. That's, that's the thing that I think people need to understand about habit. You have to understand what you're feeling and how they're seasons. Mm-hmm. Because there are times when I just need silence. I don't need anything. There are times when my mind is going crazy, I'm working on something So I need something guided to keep me sane or grounded. Yeah. Um, I think it just depends that. That's fluid of late. I've been really liking, um, aloe mo's uh, meditation practices, and I love Deepak Chopra. Those are, I think Deepak Chopra is 21 Days of Abundance is a really good tool for anybody beginning meditation. Oh, okay. Yeah. Because it has the guided and then you can, you just have the music to let your freak fly. Cool. And it really introduces people gently to receiving the downloads, like people say, you know? Mm-hmm. Um, so yeah. What do, what are some of your downloads that you've gotten in a meditation that you remember? Oh man, if any, we could go all night. Oh, what did I have today that was really beautiful? Um, oh, it was my affirmation that came to me. Today it was all about, um, strength in the heart and how like leading with the heart I've had, I mean, of late Shiva actually came to me in a meditation that was really powerful. Um, this was. Another practice that I do at night. Um, after readings, I have to clear myself. I usually, there are exercises in between readings that I'll do just to kind of, so I'm not exhausted. And at the end of the day for a shower, I tend to, at the end of my shower, turn a cold All the way cold. Yes. I used to do that for, for a minute. It feels so good. It's amazing. Yeah. And there's a really good, I learned this from a Qigong healer. It's, you basically imagine the shower like a waterfall, clearing your body, your aura, and then your inner body, which is called the energetic body. And then you become one with the water and. Turn into the water and imagine being in like a river. And I love that. I love that too. I've had so many different things pop up. Like I've seen souls within the river and I was like, what is going on? They just felt way more archaic and ancient than I did and had a mission that I didn't understand, and it felt like they were like, oh, you're here to visit cool do you feel caught off guard ever, like when you see or experience these things? Totally. Do you still, do you say okay, okay. Absolutely. You said it happened since you were nine, you know, is there part of you that ever gets like, oh, I can, I felt you coming? Or is it always like, yeah. Yeah, most of the time I've been caught off guard, I think like 9.5 times outta 10. I'm caught off guard. I'm like, I did not expect this. Most deities that I've seen, I'm like, who are you? And they don't answer. So my Google searches are insane. Oh my gosh. Like I've had like funny hat deity, like man with six pack blue snake tongue. And that was Shiva. And then I was like, great. You're caught off guard. You don't, it's a lot to process sometimes. Yeah. That's why. Yeah. That's why I was like, do you feel frightened at all? Most of the time, no, because the, again, it's the energy and you also come up with your own practices and mentors come to you. Um, intuitively, like I've had many mentors who have taught me how to do the basics. Like I used to what I burn a white candle for protection. Mm-hmm. Um, just certain rituals that you can do before going into these practices.'cause again, it's ritual. It's, it's something that's sacred and something that needs to be honored and respected. Because if you don't know what you're doing, it can be an overstep of your boundaries. And it's not anything to be afraid of because again, you always have a choice. It's not like a horror film, which is why part of my work I love, I'm a writer. I'm a playwright, I'm a screenwriter. I'm writing my first book right now. And that's awesome. Yeah. So cool. Thank you. And it's, it's fantasy, but not fantasy. It's basically what I experience and mm-hmm. What I do. Um, yeah. It's, it's basically the magic that is in this world.'cause we do have magic. It's just in a way that we don't fully understand that neuroscience and physics and all the quantum physics mm-hmm. Are actually starting to uncover. Mm-hmm. Um, will you ever, like, meet somebody and feel a spirit, a person who, who has died in their lives? Yes. Like trying to touch you? Yes. So what do you do in that situation? I, I worked at a restaurant when I first moved out here where. I just kept seeing people's people constantly to the point where the manager pulled me aside and was like, you need to stop giving people medium readings. I can't have people crying at their tables. So you would just go up to them and say, Hey, somebody wants to sit. Say, yeah. Wow. Well, it was, I will say this people out here in la, or just so much more open to it. Mm-hmm. Interesting. And like New York and New Jersey, everyone's closed up. We were talking about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I wasn't seeing people's things. Like I would give pendulum readings at sleepovers and freak out my friends and, and they'd be like, I don't wanna do this. No. But out here, everyone's like, this is so cool. Oh my gosh. And they're open. I'm seeing things, and it freaked me out. When I first moved out here, I was like, oh my God. People need boundaries. Like, so you're saying you. Saw more here because people are more open. Yeah. Wow. At least that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. Because I mean, everyone's more into spirituality. It's just nicer weather. Yeah. Even the energy out here is just so different. Do you have to sort of switch where, like when you walked in here and saw us, were you able to be like, I'm gonna switch off these people's tech people? Totally. Really? Totally. Yeah. What is it? Is it, is it anything physical that you do for that? It's mental, it's it's visualization. Mm. It's just un imagining you're in. I like to imagine I'm in a white room. Mm-hmm. And I just turn off the light switch. Oh my, my God. I wanna see who you saw for both of us so hard. Oh my gosh. Well, that's another thing. I'm also like, I'm also a little nervous too. Like I'm human as well, so like when I'm nervous, I'm not in the meditative state to be able to fully see. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, if you're feeling a heightened emotion, like you're not gonna see anything. But you know, if you're relaxed and you're just talking, you're like, oh, okay, cool. You know? Um, plus it's also how open the other person is too. Mm-hmm. Yeah, because again, you have your own spiritual boundaries. I will not see things unless you're actually subconsciously cool with me seeing it. Mm. Oh yeah. Interesting. So you do, how many readings do you do in a day? On average, probably like three to four. Wow. Um, yeah. And growing honestly. What, what drew you to cards and do you do tarot cards and oracle cards, or just tarot? I do Oracle for myself, but I, and sometimes I'll flip an oracle at the end of the reading if that's needed, but mainly I do tarot and astrology. Okay. Um, like I offer solely tarot and then I do a tarot astrology combo because I notice that they both just work really well together. Mm-hmm. Um, for some reason the transits show up really well in tarot. Did you have a terror reading yourself or what kind of invited you into this world? So, when I was in high school, I was doing a lot. I was auditioning professionally and constantly going in and out of New York. I was a competitive cross country runner and I was applying to colleges, but then my mom, my sister and I, while we were trying to sell the house, kept also like feeling spirits. Mm-hmm. That were, it felt scary. It was definitely a family member and. And I, years later I figured out it actually wasn't scary. They were just very protective. Mm. Um, but it not understanding what this is and having the religious background, we were like, what are we experiencing? My mom and my sister experienced it way more than I did. I would sleep through it a good amount of time. I think they knew I was exhausted because I was barely sleeping. So, um, but basically we tried everything holy water, my Aunt Feng swaying, um, like redecorating, but like nothing except for when we went to a, a terror reader, a psychic medium. Wow. And she was able to help us figure out what this was, who this was. And ever since I would get readings, that same reader told me I had this gift. Mm-hmm. And I remember I was 17, which I ironically is my lucky number. And I remember her saying. You could do this. Mm. And I did have that like little ping of a moment where I was like, I could do this. Oh. But then I didn't do it until I was like, I didn't start until I was like 25, so it's fine. So that's, that's kind of how it started. It was just like trying to solve a very scary problem and then realizing, oh, I actually really love this and it's a healing mod. Yeah. Like the way my goal with my business is to be able to show how tarot is actually a healing tool. I love that. Yeah. Yeah. When you left acting, did you feel like you left acting for tarot or writing? Or did it just sort of, kind of fade away? Or what was that like? Yeah, so acting became really unhealthy at one point. Like I. I was so driven and I wanted to do it so badly. Mm-hmm. And it was as if I were nothing if I weren't an an actor. Mm. And you were very good just to say thank you. I know. Because I Short time. True. And like, that's the thing. I loved it and it, I still, again, it's so spiritual. but I needed a break. Mm-hmm. Um, ever since you were assigned to Eileen too, right? Yeah. Yeah. So our man, both Ari and I were assigned to this rep who passed away suddenly. I had a really weird relationship with her though. Yeah. I was really close to her. Yeah. She also was very, um, she had a very old guard approach. However. I think she was very protected and had a very matriarchal approach. Like there was a lot of tough love involved in her approach. And I remember, um, that hit me like it was just really hard. I couldn't find a rep that I really felt like family too.'cause she was like a second mom to me. Wow. Yeah. This is good for me to know.'cause I had a very not great relationship with her, I feel like. But it's good. Like, but not everyone did. I know that. Yeah. Like she, and that's the thing, she, it, it actually helps me not put her on a pedestal.'cause I think with a lot of people, I've had a lot of people pass in my life and we tend to put our loved ones who have passed we put, we put them on a pedestal. Yeah. Yeah. And the fact is they were just human, you know, like Right. She, she wasn't perfect. Yeah. She definitely, she was a boomer, you know, was one of my spirit guide. Zach Samat, I have four. And he's one. I recently in the past year have realized who my spear guides are. Oh God. I love that, babe. That's so cool. And you know what's crazy too? I feel like Eileen's one of my guides too, she came to me this morning. She really, she, I was gonna text you this, and I was like, you know what? I might as well just wait for the podcast. But she was like, tell Larry I said hi. Oh. And I was like, and she was also like, call Ralph. And I was like, okay. So Ralph, if you're listening to Kyle, I'll call you. I promise. Yeah. Ralph is our, our acting, our mentor teacher, every, our acting guru essentially. Yeah. Basic. He owns the school that we both went to, that I taught at. Yeah. Got it. Yeah. Wow. And I'm sure he's like, how did you get down this path?'cause I did not talk about any of the spiritual stuff at the acting school at all. Yeah. Um, because I was trying to like run away from it. Well, we, I mean, did you, did you feel any shame about this stuff? Totally. Oh my gosh. So even my career trajectory. So when I came to LA I ended up, I was still acting, but then I stopped because I realized I'm a writer. Like totally, I know. I'll go back to acting. There is a time I, I, I need some healing and some age in order to play the roles that I'm actually interested in. If I'm gonna be honest. I get that. We talked about, we just talked about that. Oh yeah. Like, it's just way more interesting. It's like playing Lady m like, I wanna play Lady M1 day. I love, it's another thing too, I'm like, can I just do Shakespeare? You can, like, that's, that's all I want. I just wanna do Shakespeare.'cause he was just so, he's such a little esoteric weirdo. Totally. So that was my acting journey. But with writing, um, when I got hired in my first writer's room as a writer's pa who, if you don't know writer's rooms, that's like the lowest man on the totem pole. You're like getting the coffees. Um, you're, you're doing all the curse word work, you know? Um, but yeah, I had a mentor who told me like, do not talk about this stuff, really, like, you do not talk about this stuff. Which is ironic because I was working on a genre show and a lot of the writers were tapping into spirituality. And I've had writers ask me about tarot because it's showing up in stories more and more. Mm. And me, along with so many people in the spiritual community, we get so frustrated because the stories are not told accurately. Yeah. Like, I love white, don't get me wrong. But season two with the tarot cards, I'm like, Mike, that's not the cards that they chose, I was like, that is not at all what that means. Like, good sir. Right? If you're gonna tap into tarot or astrology, you need to know what you're talking about. Mm-hmm. Unless you're making a specific character choice where. They are so into it and so into the fad where I think you could play into the comedy there. Yeah. But if you are going to actually talk about this, you need to honor it. Mm-hmm. And I find the irony in, a lot of writers that I run into and networking, um, and just friends, they, they don't believe in it or they second guess it, or they're like, oh, I don't wanna talk about it, but I'm like, why are you writing about it? Mm. If you don't wanna talk about it or if you don't believe it. Mm. Because yeah, it's, it's very performative in my opinion. Like it needs to be represented with accuracy because a lot of it is fear-based rather than love-based. And that's what I'm striving to do. The stories that I'm currently writing and telling. Are all about celebrating it. There's a dark side to it, however you have a choice, and that actually makes for better storytelling, in my opinion. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. I love that. My, yeah. I have a quick question about spirit guides. Yeah. So I don't know if I have spirit guides or really, we, we've talked about it before. I am not sure. Is there something you could do to tap into specifically a spirit guide? Absolutely. Yeah. Well, I will say you do have them, um, from what I pick up on, they take a backseat because they know that you're not open to. Discussing with them. Wow. Okay. Like, I can see them from afar. Like they're very protective. Like I see like the, the, it's like the coven and like, of a better way to say it. They're kind of laughing'cause I don't think that's the word they want. But, um, it's cool because I actually looking into your eyes, I recognize one of'em. I think it's a grandmother of yours. Okay. Um, like again, they're taking a backseat. They're, they're behind you. Um, but it's like, all right here, like I'm seeing the genetics here. There's a man that has like this part of your face, the eye, some of her cheekbone and um, it's like that one side of your face that the light is hitting right now, where I'm recognizing it in a man that feels more distant on your father's side. Okay. But I. Okay. Yeah. Uh oh. We just had a realization. Yeah. You had, well, I never met my grandfather, who I'm named after. Oh, there you go. Yeah. Do you feel that spirit guides are always people that a person knows? Uh, yes. And I say that in a weird, mysterious, esoteric way because I don't, I just have like weird fish hands because some of your spirit guides come from your past lives as well. Mm. Now we're also tapping into something where not everyone believes in past lives. I've seen three of mine and, and one of them was through acting actually. Um, it was. So weird. Um, yeah. Like you were acting a role and you were like, this was me in a certain play. Yeah. I was in a play where, this is when I was still living in New York. It's like off off Broadway and it's like three people in the show, and was mainly a two woman show. And the director was like, okay, Look at each other in the eye and then just start the scene whenever you're ready. You know, like you get that all the time. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So I'm looking into this girl's eyes and all of a sudden I, it's just literally her eyes and her eyebrows and that little bit of the nose that's still included in that part of seeing. Mm-hmm. Everything just goes. I don't know how else to say it. It, I just am in Versailles. Thank God for Les Mis and art history. Otherwise, I would not know where I was. It was outside of Versailles. There are cannons going off. There's just so much soot everywhere. I just remember, like even when I looked down at my hands, I can't look at them the same. Like, I remember looking down at my hands, so, and dirt everywhere. I see like the big dress with like the grandma's house looking flower prints all over. Um, I remember the weird feeling the wig on my head was, I remember feeling callouses on parts of my head that like, I, I wouldn't know that feeling. Like I remember feeling like the pocket in my ribs, and like where my stomach begins to be able to breathe in that like corset and. I just look up and I see those same eyes, but it's a different person. And I remember just knowing they were a woman, but they were dressed like a man in that whole garb. And they just go, come on, let's go. And we both, I'm ju again. I am back in New York. I'm back where I was. Me and my scene partner just go and she just goes, were we just in France? Whoa. So she, yeah. Whoa. She was here too. We freaked out. Now, do you think that happened because she was in your past life with you? Like do you, do you think that's how you guys were able to connect and go at the same time? Absolutely. Like, it kind of felt like this meta I'm experiencing something that something in me experienced, but I don't fully understand what that is, if that makes sense. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So it's interesting as I've tapped into doing spiritual work full time, I feel like,'cause I still pray, I still say my Hail Marys in our fathers, but I notice, I, I see things that are. From different religions and different cultures, like past lives aren't European beliefs. That's something totally like different. Yeah. I was gonna ask you about that, but I also want,'cause Olivia, so we're talking about Olivia. Yeah. Olivia wants to connect with her spirit guides. But then I wanna come back to the dovetail of religion and pastor. Yes. Yeah. You, you were like, what can I do? Yeah. Well you raised it like what could one do, but what we all know it's what can you do? What can I do? Yeah, absolutely. Oh, that's a great question. Um, yeah, best thing you can do. Meditate and ask them to come through. Okay. Are you scared of them coming through? You know what, it's not even scared, but I just, I guess I just never was interested. I've never really thought about it. Yeah, that's, yeah. Do you have also, um, objects of theirs? Objects that hold memory? Like people who've passed? Yeah. What you could do is, there's so many different things you can do. You can create an altar that is for your ancestors that, um, like photos of any of them. Um, that helps a lot. Um, like one of my main, my grandmother, she was a painter, so I have her painting in my home. I think it just depends on what. What dynamic you want. Do you wanna be able to physically see them or do you just want little check-ins of, oh, okay, we established a blue butterfly. Oh, I just saw a blue butterfly. I know they're there. I know that means I'm on the right path. I think you, it's about creating those boundaries. Okay. That's good to know. Yeah, because I never really thought about like what kind of relationship I wanted. Yeah. That's also why,'cause again, I, that's why I asked.'cause you know, I, we, when we, when we asked earlier about spear guides, I think there's like, not jealousy, but like, oh, I wish I knew, but I also never really dislike, thought about it or felt it in that way. Yeah. I like the alter idea a lot. Mm-hmm. You should take that. I think. I think I'm feeling the altar. Yeah. For me it was like when I started thinking about spirit guides, our friend Kate brought that up to that me at some point, and that's when like. I mean, there are people that have passed where I just knew they weren't gone. The other three, it's Philip's grandma, interestingly, not my grandma. Like and I, and that's one of the reasons why I knew, and my friend was like, maybe she was tired. She was just tired. She doesn't want just tired. For a while I was kind of like talking to, to my grandma and my uncle and I wasn't, not, not getting a response, but the response was muted. Yeah. You know? Yeah. So it made me be like, okay, that's not it. Like if I needed that, they're like on the bench. Mm-hmm. You know, it also depends on what you're going through. Some will come through more than others during certain points in your life. Like, interesting. Actually, two years ago we were renovating our home. My great aunt on my father's side started to come through and I never met her and she was very close to my, my father, my, my great aunt bub. Mm. And I just, I didn't know who this was. I was like, this woman who feels like, like just such a badass and like telling me you've gotta do this by this deadline and, or like, I'll know that she's there and she actually slammed my door. Like it was crazy. Um, but again, like I'm not freaked out by that. So like that's not gonna happen for. Anyone you know, please know that audience. Like, again, boundaries, like you decide what you're open to and what you're not open to. I'm just, I'm just having to be open to a good amount. Um, but other times, like my grandfather or my grandmother, like, it's just, it depends on who you need in that moment and sometimes who you need is not who you expect. Interesting. Yeah. Okay. I wanna revisit this because, so my, Philip my husband Yeah. Is Catholic and he is very, I don't wanna say nervous, but like he would never do a Ouija board. Mm-hmm. He feel and, and Oracle cards even he wouldn't do Oracle cards. Yeah. He feels like, I think he feels like it's sort of a negative spirit could come through, through those mm-hmm. Things. So do you feel any pressure from either of the communities? Well, I think, first of all, Ouija board don't, I don't recommend doing that. I learned that the hard way. He is right about that. Like, oh yeah, yeah. Okay. Not, not great. Um, but, or if anybody's had great experiences, I haven't. So, um, I don't know everything. If you think you know nothing, you know something. But, um, that's a really good question. I mean, I'm gonna be honest with you, even the stories that I've told I'm nervous about. I'll be completely candid with you. I think because a lot of this spiritual stuff is demonized in religion. Yeah. Right. Even though it goes hand in hand. Like my grandmother is so religious. That woman has dementia and she still does the rosaries every day. Wow. And yet she's able to. Predict what she's predicted. Mm-hmm. Like, I mean, even my, my grandfather,, towards the end of his life, he underlined, um, lines in the Torah and the Bible and like predicted things from my family. Wow. Wow. Um, but like, I don't think he really knew that, oh, I, I have this gift, you know? Mm-hmm. Like, I think that just sort of happened. It's such a tough one to answer because I think when, I think people fear the other because they are a spectrum within the same spectrum. Mm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I think everyone's, to be honest, like what my belief is, I think everyone's belief is accurate. It's just a matter of finding how the puzzle pieces connect. Because I do believe that we all are, we are all one. We are all in this ecosystem, and our purpose is to rise into collective consciousness, whatever that may be. For me, it feels like a bright light of nirvana, but I still don't fully understand what that means. Um, and we're, we're not even close to that, but I think it's gonna take hundreds of thousands of years for that. But also, who knows, like I could be wrong. I also just can't deny that I've seen what I've seen and Right. I never asked to see what I see, so that must mean I have to do something with it. Right. That's so weird. I was just gonna ask you about the universal consciousness thing. Yeah. I feel like we talk about it every episode. Yeah. Yeah. Because in some ways, to me, I wonder if that is what it all is. Like it if all of the religious and spiritual practices are all of us just trying to meet. At the same level Yes. Of universal consciousness. Actually. This came up yesterday in my meditation. Really? Yeah. It, it was like yeah, that's exactly it. We're all trying what's so beautiful about what I, what I deduced from yesterday's meditation that just kind of came to me. We're all trying to come up to this beautiful light of nirvana, but the only way to get get up there is through our own unique perspectives, because they're all the puzzle pieces in order to make the light. I love that. Me too. Yeah. Like, you better be right. Otherwise, why am I seeing this?. It's so interesting, like there's such a dichotomy with you that I'm feeling, and please tell me if I'm wrong. That. It does feel like you really believe you create your own reality though. Yeah. More so than you think that you are divinely inspired. Yeah. Is that right? Absolutely. Interesting. Yeah. It's because the thing is, I do believe you come into this life understanding a certain lesson. Like when you look in an astrology chart, it's very apparent that you came at a very specific time. It's basically, you decided to arrive on this earth, right? And there is an asteroid called the north node, so it's also known Rahoo, K two north node south node. South node's indicative of where you're comfortable and complacent in and what you did in past lives, where your talents are, north node's your purpose. And when I say purpose, purpose, it's not like this one thing you're supposed to do. It's more so a theme. Like your purpose is a theme and it's actualized in all facets of your life. Like that's why, especially as artists, I love that your purpose is a theme. I love that. Yeah, me too. It feels less daunting and scary. Yeah. You know. Exactly. And because I think we we're in a society where it's like, I. Especially in your formative years. You need to understand where you're gonna college, what you're gonna do for a living, all this stuff. When in truth, you're just forming your subconscious in the first seven years of your life. It's maybe a fourth of your life at this point with how long we're living at, you know, in 2025. Um, I think you, you change your mind a lot. Oh my gosh. If teenage Julia knew that I wasn't acting right now, the world would be over, you know? Right. Like, she thought that was her purpose. But no, honestly, like my purpose is to help heal. Mm-hmm. You know, it's, it's healing. This is just blowing my mind. I feel like this is why, part of the reason why I'm so happy we're doing this podcast is because. Some of the things that you were saying. Mm-hmm. Remind me. So much of the things that Grant Josie, episode two said, Olivia's husband who is an atheist. Oh. Like, like you guys could not be further on the spectrum, which is like maybe proving our point that we're all actually trying to meet at some universal consciousness. Mm-hmm. Of just believing in like that you have the power and the free will and the fortitude and confidence to like to live a life that you want and you're not defined by what you do. Like there's so many, right. Yeah. No, I know. That's so funny. I totally thought that too. That's so funny. Well, I think, honestly, this is why I'm like, I will actively choose not to debate anybody on their religious beliefs or spiritual beliefs. Or what their version of the meaning of life is, but rather come ask with curiosity because it's the way they're meant to see the world, their perspective is what helps us in our collective purpose. I was gonna ask what your signs were. Oh, I'm a TAUs sun. Okay. Leo Moon, Scorpio ascendant. Wow. So your birthday is soonish May 8th. Same day as Buddha and Enrique Glacio two. Same person. Right. I feel like I'm the middle child of that, of that Wow. Progression. That's awesome. I have one more question. What do you think comprises a soul? What comprises of soul I did have this one meditation actually. It was, it was a, um, a Nordic shamonic healing that I had, uh, one time that was very, very insightful and I just saw my soul. And it just, I, I saw it amongst the stars. Mm-hmm. And it was like this beautiful, like, I don't even know what it would be made of. It almost looked like a gas, it almost looked like stardust. Stardust. Yeah. Yeah. It was like this beautiful purple. I just saw purple and every time I feel like I need to go back to my power, I always go to that. Vision of me as Stardust. Mm-hmm. Cool. Because it was, I just felt the power, you know, like it was so powerful and so unique. And it was purple. It was purple. Like a lavender. What do you think is, what do you think is in all? Uh, honestly, I was gonna say Stardust. Really? Yeah. It's cool. Yeah. For me, I think it's like, I think it's your core personality traits. I think I've kind of learned this more since having children where they're just, they have qualities that they were just born with. Fiona is maternal, she's always been maternal. She was a baby and she was maternal. Wow. Like the minute Ellie was born, she was like that, this is my baby now. Like, oh, cool. She's just born. She's born with this maternal instinct that like, I feel the only explanation I can give to that is like that is a sole quality of her. Wow. Whereas like, I feel like I am intensely empathetic, Like that I think is a soul quality of mine. I don't know where I stand on past lives. I think. I haven't thought about that too much, but I feel like for me, if a soul is journeying through these lives, what's something that it always has? And that's, it's like those qualities to me. Yeah, totally. I like that. That's so beautiful. I agree with you on that. You do have core personality things and I think that's like the fate part of it. Yeah. Because like, how do you. How do you choose like, oh, I'm gonna be an actor. Like, how do you choose those qualities, you know? Mm-hmm. I know you do your two weeks. Yes. Our homework. Your homework, yes. Homework. What's our homework assignment? Okay. Should I do homework assignment first and then, then, oh, you had one for us. I do. Great. I, I came prepared. I'm a Taurus. I feel like I just saw Aria as a child with her pen and paper to like, oh, we have an assignment. I'm ready, I'm ready to do, I'm ready to write it down. I, I was like, are we gonna do Deepak Chopra 21 days of a month? Yes. Are you the cold child? Those are my options, but I actually have a very specific one. So. Do you guys know your sun, moon and rising? Yeah. I don't. You don't? Okay. So we may have to do yours after. Okay, great. Um, but Olivia, I'll focus on you. So cool. I, so by the time this comes out, I came up with my own manifestation technique. This is based on your astrology chart. Okay. Your chakras, how to unblock them and your free will. I basically, you start with your authentic archetype. Okay. And it basically is this, um, this vision, this feeling that you can always tap into no matter what you're feeling in a day, whether you're going through a challenge or a joy.'cause I don't believe in good and bad there. It's just joy and challenge.'cause there's good and bad in everything, you know? Mm-hmm. Um. So what is your son? I'm an Aquarius. Oh, I love that. Okay. Your moon, uh, cancer. And your ascendant? Uh, Virgo. Virgo. Okay. So you are the decisive and safe protector. Wow. I've never thought of myself as decisive. I love this. Wow. Okay. Which is why this is the one. This is your authentic arc type. What is it? Decisive. You are the decisive and safe protector. I like that. I wrote it down in my little notebook. Thank you so much. It happens to just come up with the qualities that may challenge you, that you've always strived to have. Just like you not thinking you're decisive. I'm not. That could be a block for you for certain things that you're trying to achieve. So when you remind yourself, no, I am decisive. No, I, I am safe in my setting, I am safe to be able to move forward because I'm a protector. Wow. Yeah. I love that. Yeah. That's just, what's your homework? Okay. So we have our, well you have your thing. Yeah. You have your thing. Yes. And do you know, do you know where your, what house your moon is in? If not, that's okay. My really good friend did my chart. Mm-hmm. Um, I don't wanna mess up the recording. Oh, you're good. But I could look it up for later. Okay. Look it up for later, because that will determine your root motivation. And I can give you just a list of what the root motivations. And when I say root motivation, I mean the reason why you wanna manifest what you're manifesting no matter what it is throughout your life. Okay? There's always a root reason why you want something. Mm. And some of them, based on the houses, authenticity, prosperity, recognition, mastery, trust at the, at your heart of hearts, that is what you're seeking. For the next two weeks, whenever you clock a moment of doubt. Mm-hmm. I want you to remind yourself of your authentic arc type and root motivation. Oh, I love that. Love. Yeah. That's so much. Yeah. And, I will be coming out with the ebook. Yes. You have a title, amazing. Yes, yes. Called Manifest With My Moon. That's so cool. And guess what, it's actually launching'cause you manifested something on the state. August 8th? Yes. Wow. Nice. Lion's portal. Lion's portal. Nice. Oh, that's so exciting. Okay, great. Oh, I love it. Oh, I'm glad that, wow. This is, I have to say, this has been such a magical experience, isn't it? Nice. I am vibrated. I wanna end with something that we might edit out. Okay. But, but it's called Insight Time ba. And if anybody has, I don't think we do it all the time. Yeah. But if anybody has an insight they'd like to share. I have one, which is why I brought Insight Time into our lives. Mm-hmm. Which is that I've been doing this forgiveness practice. Actually, I wrote down Eileen,'cause I need to forgive Eileen. She was just very, she was very fair weather with me. Mm. She would think I was really talented. One moment, and then she would think that I was not the next, that it was for a first manager. Mm. It was a. It was difficult for me. That's tough. Um, but she's on my list, but this book I'm reading called Code of the Extraordinary Mind, which I keep talking about. Yeah. Um, he talks a lot about how important it is to, to, to forgive and release any resentments that you've been holding on to. And so I sat down and made a list and I thought I'd be like, yeah, my ex is whatever. And the list was long. It was longer than I wanted it to be for sure of just my New York roommates and like this acting teacher that I had. Just things that still bubble up every now and then for me that are taking up like energetic space, you know? So I've combined it with yoga'cause I do warm yoga. I don't do hot yoga because then I'm just standing there trying not to die. But warm yoga, I'm actually practicing and sweating. And so now basically his idea for what you do is. You think about what happened and like what made you upset. You put, set a timer for two minutes and like feel all the feelings of anger and betrayal and frustration. And then you start trying to, even if you're making it up, imagine why that person did that. Like this acting teacher ride just kind of finally released of like maybe his mom was dying. Maybe he was a failed actor. And I reminded him of something. Maybe he got really hurt by somebody who looks like me. Just kind of giving justification for them. Yeah. And then what I've added onto that is like how it's helped me, like thanking them for the ways in which their presence in my life has gotten me to the point which I'm in now. And there's always like a lesson wrapped up in all these things to find. So I've combined this with yoga. Mm-hmm. And it's like different amounts of sessions for different people. So I just released the acting teacher person now. Wow. And I'll work on the next person and I, you know, some of them will maybe take two classes and some of'em it'll be like three weeks of it. But yeah, I found it really. Um, really interesting and moving. I love that. I love the adding on of thanking them. Yeah. I think that's, that's really, I think, important. I think that's what I need to close the door. Yeah. To, to be like, this was beneficial for me in some way. Yeah. That's so powerful. First of all, that is, that'll be my assignment. Yeah.'cause I think I need that for sure. Torahs can hold a grudge, but I think it, it does remind me in readings, readings are a mirror, you know, like, yes, you're, you're giving someone a reading, but there's also insight for you as well, and you are tapping into that with. This entire process that you just shared with us. That is so beautiful. Thanks. Oh my gosh. I, yeah, that's my assignment. I'm deciding that. That's so cool. Oh, beautiful. Thanks. Love it. Do you guys have any insights you wanna share? No, not really. But I love yours. I don't know if I have any insights. Um, I guess actually, you know what I've started to do that has really helped me. Um, I, I have a therapist who does art therapy and somatic healing. Mm-hmm. And I absolutely love it because I've really uncovered that art is therapeutic for me. Like, even though yes, part of my income is. An art form. I need art in order to heal. Whether that's collaging or painting or ceramics. I recommend that all the time in my readings. And again, it just goes to show how art really is so spiritual. Mm-hmm. Um, it is a ritual, like the way you do it. Yeah. What you need to do to prepare for it. And I guess, I guess that's my answer. I've had many insights today. I love that. I love that too. Yeah. Uh, Julia, thank you so much for coming on. Oh yeah. It was such a true delight to have here, honestly. I thank you. So grateful. Thank you. I'm truly honored to be here. This was so fun. I've never felt more at home. Yay. Talking about very vulnerable things to a lot of people. Before 12,000. 12,000 listeners we're out already, so. Oh, wow. Hi guys. We're well. This is Vince Boda. Woo. Stay well. Stay sane. Love you. Bye bye.