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Release, Rest, Remain with Yvette Henry
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On this episode, we are joined by Yvette Henry–a wife, mom of four, podcaster, and the author of Release, Rest, & Remain, a 30-day journey designed for busy women to release burdens to God, rest in His presence, and remain steadfast in His love.
From overflowing inboxes and the constant pull of other people’s needs to endless to-do lists, finding even a moment of peace or joy can feel impossible. If you’ve been looking for reprieve from the nonstop activity and noise of life, this conversation is an invitation to pause in the presence of the God who holds all things together. He isn’t asking for more from you—He’s inviting you to lay it all down.
In this episode, Yvette shares her personal story of grief, the experiences that led her to write her book, and how therapy, parenting, and life’s challenges shaped her journey. Together, we explore what it means to remain in the presence of the Lord—to slow down, be present, and learn how to simply be.
We also discuss how striving can quietly become an idol, especially in a culture that celebrates constant efficiency and pushes us to move from one thing to the next without ever slowing down.
This conversation offers practical encouragement for gaining clarity, moving forward with peace, and learning how to abide with God so you can live and lead from a place of true rest!
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Your number one assignment is to abide in him. Because when you do that, you get to know his heart, not just for you, but for the people that you come into contact with. Society says that we should do it this way, or we we even sometimes impart these expectations on ourselves that the Lord doesn't have any kind of expectation of us for. And so in the renaming, we get more clarity, more uh peace of mind about how to move forward.
SPEAKER_03How excited are we to be at this place in our podcast episodes 2026? We have come in. We started the year talking about goal setting or not. We started the year talking about looking at high-hanging fruit, low-hanging fruit, and deciding do you need to do something new or do we need to just nurture that thing that is low-hanging and there for us? We also went in to talk about um just hustle culture. We talked about that. What does it look like to work from a place of rest? So we talked about it, we've introduced it, we've exchanged a soft life, or which we decided was self-care, self-love for hustle culture. So as we're here, that brings us to our guest today. We are so excited because we're gonna move from what it is to how we're going to do it, meaning we're gonna move from doing to being, and we're excited about that.
SPEAKER_02Yes, so today we have Yvette Henry with us. She is um a mom, a wife. Um, she has a podcast with her husband called How Married Are We, where they talk and navigate about all things. But today she's gonna be talking to us about how she became an author and her new book that she wrote called Release, Rest, and Remain, a 30-day devotional to embrace abiding over striving. So we're excited to get into it today.
SPEAKER_03Good morning. How are you?
SPEAKER_00Good morning. I'm well, how are you guys?
SPEAKER_03Doing so good. It's so good to have you to launch us. And we know it's the launch of what you're doing. We're so honored that you would hold space uh to come here and help um all of us to consider how we're being in the places of rest and how we're showing up in the world with all of the mini hats that we wear, all the things that we have to do. Can you just give us a little bit about what um fueled your passion to even write this book and where you are and getting it out to the world, if you would?
SPEAKER_00I wouldn't say that I was necessarily like passionate about writing this or even enthusiastic or ambitious toward getting this message out. I think the invitation presented itself for me to write a book. And as I sat with the Lord, it felt like release rest remain was the message that he had for me to launch into the world. Um, it was something that I, this rhythm was something that I had been living with for years before, and it was something I had been living with for years, and it wasn't necessarily something I thought I was going to write about, if that makes sense. Um but my my I guess my passion has always been to share with people how much God has carried me through my journey. And so when I thought about writing this, release rest remain is kind of talking because it's a rhythm that has literally carried and sustained me for years now. Um, and even if I think beyond when the words release rest remain came to me, I feel like I can say that that rhythm has kind of been a part of me for a long time. And I feel like in a time such as this, when there's so many things besides what's happening in our own personal bubbles, um, but everything that's happening in the world and our communities, I feel like there's so much stuff to be concerned about and to worry about. And it's hard to differentiate at times like what is what is assigned to me? What is something that I am actually um supposed to be carrying right now? And so I felt like it was important to encourage people to release whatever is not intended for you over to the Lord, allow him to do the rest with everything else.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that's so good. We've been talking about this a lot this year, about what we carry. Um, and we were really challenged in our personal world and in our personal life to start considering that. And we couldn't agree more. I think more and more um many of us are carrying not just the weight of our personal worlds, right? Of trying to be a mom, trying to be maybe you have business owners or work that you do, trying to be friends and spouses and all of these things which are natural for us to carry, right? The roles and the hats that we carry. But then an additional, like you said, so many people are feeling an additional weight of all of these other things, the constant news that's coming in and other things. And so at the beginning of this year, I came to Dr. Joe and I said, I think we need to rest in this space of the privilege, the divine privilege that we have to co-labor with each other in carrying our burdens while also giving all of our burdens over to the Lord, right? And allowing him to carry and determining what does he need to carry, determining what can others support us in carrying. And then I love how you put it, we hadn't considered yet um releasing, releasing the things that that could not be carried. And um, so I was when I was reading, there were so many good, like, and I think this is a book that you can't just rush through. Uh, that's a book that you've got to take your time and sit with. Um, and Dr. Joe and I were talking about the other day about how when we got to like page one, we were like, okay, pause. We're gonna have to take a little break. Because you started off with just breathing. And you started off just giving permission, right? To take this pause and to rest. And you kind of walk us through this breathing exercise that feels so powerful. When you wrote this, do you feel like it was something that you needed to to do is like find ways to to kind of stop yourself in the doing and and rest in the being?
SPEAKER_00Most definitely. I feel like we as um we as just humans, we have so many responsibilities that um a lot of times, and then not even just as humans, but as believers, as people who really do genuinely desire to spend time with the Lord, sometimes that can be another task, another thing to do. And for me, I just want, I want, I wanted when people opened up this devotional to not feel that, to not feel like this is another thing on your to-do list to do. I wanted them to have permission to just like take a deep sigh or a deep inhale because so much of the time we're not even paying attention to our breath, we're not even giving making space for breathing. Um, because we're like, oh, I gotta go do this, I gotta do this. And then we're out of breath often from one task to the other. And I just wanted the readers to understand that as you're sitting here, this is the moment to just read to release everything else that came before it, even the things around it. Because even yesterday I brought the devotional with me to my kids' piano lesson, and I knew I was gonna be sitting in the car, so I just sat in the car with it. And I, you know, it doesn't have to be candles lit and a warm cup of dough, and you know, a cozy blanket and a journal or whatever. But for me, it's like even in the middle of all the things that you have going on, just take a moment to rest and remain in the presence of the Lord and trust that whatever else is on your to-do list, whatever else you have to do after this or whatever came before it, that right now in this moment, you can just be right. You don't have to hustle, you don't have to achieve, like, you aren't getting any kinds of accolades for even opening your Bible in this moment. You know what I mean? Like sometimes I think that even if we open a devotion or open our Bible, we're like, oh, I'm a good Christian now, check. But it's like, no, you are called to remain in the presence of the Lord. And so I wanted people to just have that like that posture or that that calm because I feel like so much of the time we spend, like we're just tense going from one thing to the next. It's like, hey, hey, just feel great.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and you answer space because we're we're also behavior health providers, so we're practicing clinician, practicing mental health, um, nurse practitioner. And I think the thing also is it was me opening the book, and I said, okay, this will be great because I can also see if this is something we can use as bibliotherapy, because a lot of times in the faith-based community, it can be um a search to find something that's gonna speak to the spiritual coping that a lot of our biblically integrative clients, you know, ground in or anchor themselves in. And so that was my initial intent. But then I said, okay, how's my breath? You know, because you are the conduit that has to do the work. But I was fully clear, and I want to ask you a question about that. On page one, the first page in that section, that is four square breathing all day. And so when I looked at it, I was like, and we teach that to our clients who have trauma and have uh different things. So that leads me to the question was how close in your peripheral was the fact that people from clinical practice was was gonna use your book or could use your book within that clinical practice. It was not.
SPEAKER_00It was not like I am I so now I will say that I have been in therapy for years. So I have a bunch of tools that I often pull out and use in my own day-to-day life. And I know that for me, when I was introduced to breath work, it was a powerful tool in order to regulate my nervous system and just to kind of bring me back into myself. And so I guess it was just a thing, but I also have another friend who's a therapist, and then I I've met other therapists and they're like, I'm recommending this to my client. I'm recommending this to my client. I'm like, oh. This was a thing. And then my therapist bought it too. Um, she's like, I bought your rug. And I was already planning on trying to send it to her, but um yeah, so it was not on my radar at all. Um, but I am so like humbled that therapists have found it to be something that could be a powerful tool or a gift to their clients.
SPEAKER_03Right. Absolutely. We often say many are the plans of man, right? I was just about to say that. Because so you're sitting down saying, I'm gonna write this experience, hopefully my experience. And we're like, thank you, father. If someone is writing something that is relatable, that um that our client or that person can have something tangible. And on here, we say we do the work to do the work. And what that means is the reason why I had to pause first is because before I ever give this book for bibliotherapy, I am gonna work through it myself first. And so that way when I give it, I have a sense of what it means to breathe through it. So the Lord just knows. Yeah, He knows uh what nothing is wasted. I like to say, nothing is wasted is all gris for the meal. And I had to go back and think about used to this is the way I paraphrase it in my head when I say it, you're like passion. This came out to tell the truth. This came from mine saying, Lord, help me build these things, help me let your strength be perfect in my areas of weakness. And I know we spoke um earlier, we love to touch bass and like build the light rapport before we do this. And uh one of the takeaways that I took from it is I want to be able to work and not strive. I don't doubt, like I have not sat down over your resume or CV, but I don't doubt it's probably tick, tick, check, check, check, check, check. But I don't know that, and thank you in this book for gently reminding us that the accolades are great. Right. All the degrees, I've never heard a person with a degree down play a degree, so I'm not doing that, but what I'm saying it, there is a cost to not abiding. There is a cost that we have talked about through hustle culture. What did you find the cost was when you were prior to working through this? There had to be a cost, maybe then, it's not passion. Something made you say, I've gotta stop and I've gotta connect in this way.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, uh so I will say that prior to discovering or prior to naming this rhythm a release rest we name, um I encountered grief in a way that I hadn't encountered it before. And um I will say that like I I feel like I lived my life now looking hindsight 2020. I lived my life. I lived my life experiencing grief. So I recently learned, I'm gonna take a little trip real quick. I recently learned um or heard it said that there's a difference between grief and mourning. Grief is a deep feeling of sadness, and mourning is an expression of that deep sadness. And so I feel like there were moments I can pinpoint moments in my life where I experienced grief where I was like, oh, that's sad. Oh, I gotta keep moving. Oh, that's sad, gotta keep moving, and just kept pushing past the grief, right? Never sat down to feel those feelings, never sat down to even express them to sort truth or anything like that. And then my sister-in-law passed away in 2021. And obviously, that is a very sad loss, right? I I experienced grief, but there was a moment at my kitchen sink where I was like, what I am feeling does not seem proportional to the loss that I just experienced. And I don't even know if that makes sense, but in my mind at the time it made sense because it was like, this is something more, and what I now understand is that I had unexpressed and unacknowledged grief, encountering new grief, and I was at a point of inclusion, and so I needed to get help. And at that time, I was in therapy, but I needed more, like I needed something deeper, and so I ended up going away toward three-week intensive, um, therapy intensive, and that is where I encountered God in a different way. Um, it's interesting because I felt like I was like, oh, finally, like on the way there, I was like, finally, I get to like go and be like alone with my Abba and just have this time. It was like I was looking forward to a daddy-daughter date, you know, like it was kind of silly. And then I got there and he's like, I've been here the entire time. I've been here the entire time, but you've been so busy striving and pushing along and doing this, that, and the other that you there's been so much noise that's gotten in the way of us being able to commune in this way. And so it was in my, it was during my time at that therapy intensive that I really got to um experience the presence of God in such a tangible way, in such a tangible way. And mind you, I've been a believer from the womb. I was practically born in the church, and so um, but it was that that really gave me the experience that I needed, or the I don't even know what you'd call it, but whatever it is that I needed in order to write this. And it was during that time that I encountered John 15, which the devotional takes its time going verse by verse through John 15 over a course of 30 days. And it was during that time that I really understood, like, oh, he like my only assignment is to remain. He says to abide, I forget how many times he says it in the verse. I feel like I should know that. But he says it over and over and over. And anytime Jesus repeats himself in scripture, that is something important that we need anytime he speaks in general, we need to listen. But when he's repeating it, he's very serious about that. And so, out of my time there, the therapist gave me an assignment and he was like, I want you to develop your own censoring prayer. And so as I was leaving, I I my censoring prayer came out of John 15, and it was rest and remain in the presence of the Lord and allow him to do the rest. Because for me, the biggest issue that I have, I still have it, I'm still working through it, is I like to control all the things, the people, their circumstances, the outcomes, every little thing. I've made an idol out of productivity and efficiency. And I'm like, okay, I got this, I can figure it out. But it was it was all of my doing, all of my striving that made me reach a breaking point, realizing that I cannot do it in and of myself, in and of my own strength. And so, in resting and remaining in the house of the Lord, I am giving it over to him, I am releasing it to him and trusting him with whatever else that I can't put my hands on physically. You know what I mean? So um, yeah, that's kind of where it came from.
SPEAKER_02My goodness. I I I want to say not that I'm thanking you for experiencing hard things, but also your experience of hard things is giving almost like a little bit of a roadmap for those that become behind. And I we always say over here that pain turned to purpose produces power. Um and there's something very, very powerful about not that we say that pain in and of itself is just this meaningful thing, or we're or we run into pain and suffering for the sake of meaning. But a lot of times when we give that over to the Lord and we say, God, this hurt, this is hard, I'm suffering, I'm struggling. Um, He can allow us to do things like this. Um then come back and begin to bless people. As somebody right now in the season of life I'm in, and we always we always like to be honest and vulnerable here. I'm in a season where I'm a young mom. So I got young ones that, you know, they're in kindergarten, pre-K, we're doing all the things. Um, I've got a private practice. We said let's start a podcast. That seemed like a God thing to do, you know? So why would you be stressed in your God thing, right? And so you're doing all these things, and I think it's so easy to fall out of this place. And you said something a minute ago that just kind of like kind of smacked me in the face when you said the only I would it was the only purpose I have or the only thing I'm supposed to be doing, the only assignment for me is to abide. And that kind of really That challenges me.
SPEAKER_03That goes against and is counterintuitive to everything that culture teaches us. It it's yeah it. Does not teach us to rest. And we have, we, we often, and we're unpacking here what it looks like to work from a place of rest. So the concept of abiding actually is speaking to that. Right. Because we were trying to figure out how are we going to teach people? Because we keep saying it and we kind of do it. But we We were talking about that. It's like how are we going to show them?
SPEAKER_02How are we going to show? Because we were talking about the care. We were like, we can't come up every episode and talk about the problem. You know what I'm saying? Like, okay, so you're not caring. Now what do we do now? And when you were talking, I was like, really, what this is saying is it's giving us communion with him as an answer to the load that we carry, the mental load, the emotional load, the physical load. That that the answer can be as simple as are you communing and resting with him meaningfully? Um, and I love how you said it earlier because I usually challenge myself. I am a um an A-type kind of do-it person. I got my checklist and my life goals and my 10-year plan and my eight-year plan, all these things, right? Um achieving them, and that's wonderful. But in the process of achieving them, I think even this communion feels like a checkbox. Yeah. Did I do my devotional? Did I did I read my 30-day plan through the Psalms? Did I, you know, did I pray? Did I and doing it more as like a formality or a checkbox versus saying, I'm really resting in this space of understanding and trust that I cannot carry this and that I've got to trust him to do so. Um, but I think that what you said was so powerful. My only assignment is to abide. Is to abide.
SPEAKER_03And then it comes to a point too. If I want if I abide and we get and have a roadmap for that, will the striving, and then why am I saying this? Because I just started reading the book, and so I need some more abide time. But my hunch, we have a thing that we say in practice, I have a hunch that if you do this, or I have a discernment. And my discernment, I I believe that, and even in this moment, I'm like, yes, I abide. Does that then mean? And you can tell us because you wrote it and you lifted and you walked it. But I get this sense that maybe some of the striving that goes away is because I don't pick up things I shouldn't.
SPEAKER_00So yeah, I was actually going to um add to that when as Dr. Mo was talking, because when I say that your only assignment is to remain, I say it loosely, you know, like not loosely, loosely, but loosely, because I don't mean like don't do anything. I don't mean just sit on your couch and twiddle your thumbs and just you know, oh, what's supposed to be will be. No, the Lord does call us to do things, He has given you young children. You have a husband, you have a private practice. Those are things that I do believe that the Lord has um given to you to steward well. And so, what what uh when I say that, what I mean is that as we abide, we get to know his voice, we get to understand his ways, right? We get to experience him and be in relationship. So in a way that we we um we develop discernment or he gives us discernment and wisdom about what it is that is assigned to you. But your number one assignment, I will say this, I'll rephrase it. Your number one assignment is to abide in him. Because when you do that, you get to know his heart, not just for you, but for the people that you come into contact with. The things you do are to bring him glory. And so I just I don't want anyone to walk away thinking, oh, you bet thing, like just don't do anything, just abide in the presence of the Lord. Yes, and you know what I mean? So um, for sure, I feel like for me, the more time that I have spent in this rhythm, it's easier for me to release things that were not for me. There are some things that we tend to hold on to because society says that we should do it this way, or we we even sometimes impart these expectations on ourselves that the Lord doesn't have any kind of expectation of us for. Right. And so in the renaming, we get more clarity, more uh peace of mind about how to move forward. The Lord is literally ordering our steps rather than us ordering our steps. You know what I mean? Because I too am someone who's like, I didn't, I never in a million years imagined myself being a homeschooling mom. And here I am. I literally went to school to become a public school teacher, did that for seven years, and then I was like, Oh, I'm coming home to educate my children, and the Lord has not released me from that assignment yet. You know what I mean? Yeah, and so it's sometimes we have to walk out the assignment until the Lord says, Okay, it's time, it's time to let it go.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, it's so good, and go ahead. It's so a lot of it. It's so lot, it's actually a lot of thoughts that's so good. I appreciate you um coming in with that correction. I was actually on a walk yesterday. We've been challenging ourselves to be um, we we like to talk about the eight domains of wellness a lot, and one um area of wellness that we're working on is our physical health. So um I went on a walk the other day, and here um where we're at, it's um spring, but it's winter. It was 80 yesterday and it was snowing the next day. So um it was one of the cooler days, and um of course, because the weather changes, all of the plants don't quite know how to act. So my son walked outside, he was like, Why are there roses on the rose bush? I said, the rose doesn't know. The roses, they don't it doesn't know what's happening. It was warm yesterday, so it bloomed and now it's cold. Um, but I was on this walk and I was challenging myself because you know, you do all the things, checking my email, checking my text, and yeah, and something told me, just be present here. Put the phone down and be present on this walk. And so when I was finally present, I was like, oh, look at all these trees and stuff. Like, look at look at the world around you. And I was walking, and as I was walking back, I'd solid tree. Um, and there was nothing on it. It was just sitting there, and I looked at it and I said, and I thought to myself, nothing blooming, no fruit on that tree doesn't mean that the tree is not productive. And then, you know, of course, I did my little flip. You know, I can only go so far. When I walk back the other direction, here was another tree. We're in the same season, mind you, and this tree has full bloom because it was confused because of the weather, or or because it was time. It said it's time for me, and it was due season for that. And so I sat there with the two trees. I'm like, we're supposed to be on a walk, and I was stuck in stuck in all of my to-do lists. And when I paused on my to-do list, I stood and I looked at the tree, one tree and I looked at the other, and I said, They're in the same season, but they're producing different fruit because it was time for that one, and it wasn't time for that one. Yeah, and I'm sat, I just sat in that. It's good after my I just sat in like sometimes I think, as like I said, my current season, like you said, you're this is my assignment for now. My assignment in this season is raising my kids and and building this and doing all these things. Um, and there are some aspects about that that are enjoyable, and there's some aspects about that that are difficult for me. But I looked at the trees and I said, whether or not that one's bloomed or that one's not, neither of them are in the wrong season.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Um, and so it really, when I was walking, it it challenged me. Yeah. It challenged me to consider to be grateful, not only for the season that I'm in, right?
SPEAKER_03Um, but to be okay with the Lord and how to abide if if in the season is still a a resting time or if you will, dormant. I think sometimes in those seasons there's not a lot when he's called you to rest. There's not a lot to do. And if you're of certain personalities or a type, we'll go about doing things in a resting period.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and so that is that I would have looked at when I was walking, when I looked at the tree that hadn't bloomed yet, I would have called it barren. But it's not barren, it's dormant. Yeah, yeah. Does that make sense? And when you said that, I was like, I think sometimes, especially when you're comparing hustle culture, things like that life can get you to kind of look around at the people around you, and you may be calling something barren in your life that is really just dormant. It's time for you to reason.
SPEAKER_00Right. And then I want this yeah, go ahead. Go ahead, go ahead. No, I was gonna say, because Dr. Joe just said something, because sometimes when it's a season where we're supposed to be dormant or that we're not supposed to be doing it's a season of rest, we be trying to do. And I feel like one of the biggest takeaways that I got from Jonathan Keen is that I am not responsible for producing the fruit. I am not responsible for the blooming of the plants and all the things. That's that's God's work. Like literally, he gave us Jiva so that we can remain in him. And God himself is the gardener. He's gonna be the one to prune things, he's gonna be the one to water things, he's going to be the one that gets the glory for the tree. Like those trees are just standing there, right?
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_00But the garden, and we're not saying, oh, good job, tree. We most most of the time when a plant is blooming or when a harvest happens, we're like, wow, look at what the farmer accomplished, right? It's not the tree itself, it's God, because the tree just has to stay rooted and planted exactly where they are while God or the gardener brings life when it's supposed to happen in due time, in the season that is supposed to happen. And it's like Dr. Joe has said a few times since we started recording is that nothing is wasted. Nothing is wasted, no season is wasted, nothing. And so I think it's really important for us, and I'm gonna just speak to us as women, I'm gonna speak to me as myself, okay? Because sometimes I look at other women who I feel like, oh, I'm kind of in the same category as this, but they're getting all these opportunities and they're traveling here and there. And but we have children the same age, and we both are married, and duh duh, but they're getting all these opportunities. But this is not the season for me to be able to do all those things. And and maybe that's just not what the Lord has for me now. And so I feel like even in that that beautiful analogy that you got while you were walking, it's like sometimes we have to understand that even though it doesn't look like you're, for the lack of a better term, flourishing or breeding or blossoming, whatever the case may be, that there is still life, there is still something really good happening in just remaining and resting. And so we have to trust God with the seasons of life that we get to navigate, but we can only do that when we truly remain in Him.
SPEAKER_03Okay, and not and not letting go in the time, the word remain, right? Not not yes, releasing our desire to thrive, releasing our thought that we can even produce without him to begin with. Right. But just even in that dormant season, there's something about remaining and remaining hopeful. Remaining what? Yeah remaining hopeful, remaining consistent, remaining faithful, remaining in all the things that knowing that those things that God has forecast will be. And if He's put you in a space of stillness or in a space of rest, there's nothing gonna be lost in that. Like when you get to the other side and it seems like everybody's speeding, like you in this lane, which you know, I don't know why. When I got that one ticket, I'm like, I'm in the slow lane. He's like, ma'am, all these lanes are 55. Like all of them, right? But you feel like you're in the slow lane, right? But even when that happens, knowing that when God's timing comes, yeah, there is nothing lost, and you will find all the work that that that our savior did to bring redemption to humanity, 30 years were unseen, three were seen, and I have to remind myself of that a lot of times, and I have to even to speak to my girlies, you know, we're of age, and a lot of us want to. I remember saying to her in my podcast, I was like, and it's time for me to be put out to pasture. That's how I said it. She said, she said, absolutely not. She said, Well, when I was we were growing up, you always said that he calls the young because they're strong. He calls the more seasoned because they know the way.
SPEAKER_01Like how you changed that for it to be strength-based. She said, It's more seasons, nothing.
SPEAKER_03More seasons, seasons. Because they know that my grandma used to say the old because I didn't want to get caught up in no ages. So he called the seasons because they know, and when she said that to me immediately, yeah, I was like, okay, nothing was lost in the fact that I spent 11 years in my home being a I used to call it the domestic um executive. I was domestic executive. I like that. I like that. Yes, because I did all these things. And so if I was in an office and I was just being an administrator, well, in this home, I'm an administrator, I'm a chef, I'm a I'm a referee of all the things. I am the gatherer of what would be chaos, and I'm the calm bringer. So it was so many uh hats that I found out. Um, once I gave that, I'll never forget the day when I was in my clinical program. I asked my children to go back to college. I reared them. They were all going to college. I said, listen, I want there was like, Mom, that'd be great. I will never forget the day that I passed my exit exam for my clinical work. Um, I was at Regent University and my daughter was at Regent Dill. We were in college at the same time. Oh, I love that. I remember texting in our family chat. I passed the exam, you guys. And I was in my class and the door opens, and you know, you peek back, who's coming in class? It was my kid. I was like, what is she doing? And she boldly walks into this class and she said to my instructor, She said, I've Chloe. My mom is here, she's right there, she passed her exam. I don't mean they interrupt your class. And I thought, oh my god. But do you know that scripture where the Lord says your children, you would they would call you blessed at the gate? And so my instructor was a Christian university, he got it, and I was mortified. And she stood there and she said, Mom, you did it, you did good. So I would, and this is just makes me fool. So I would say, here's where that rest comes in in that season, those unseen seasons, those tugged away seasons. I used to say that I want to be a great woman that does great things for God, but more importantly, I want to be a great mom that raised great people that love and serve a great God. And so sometimes when we put the things in the proper season, even though we have these burning things, right, kingdom things that we'll do, he will close that door just like that. So you then graduate, and that 11 years, all gris for the meal. I can't tell you how much I teach as faculty out of my life as a mom.
SPEAKER_04Right.
SPEAKER_03Because in those seasons, that's when the Lord begins to work out those things and patience in you. And if you want to work some patience out, get yourself a toddler or two, you know, and the Lord can do this. I just appreciate the fact that this particular offering is what I'm gonna call it. I'm gonna call it an offering. This offering to the soul that it's gonna be an offering to the soul of so many. I appreciate that it is not capsulized to one experience or compartmentalized to one space. Um, I believe there's leaders everywhere in every walk of life that can use every piece of this, no matter where you are. You're either going into a storm, in a storm, or coming out of one. And it depends on where you are. Life happens. Yeah. We're touched by humanity. And so, in me, when I say storms, I think where are you gonna be touched by humanity? And do you need to release in that moment? Do you need to rest in that moment? Do you need I'm excited to get further down into the book and let the Lord teach me things, ever learning, ever growing, right? From faith to faith, from glory to grow, ever winding. And so it's exciting to me. I will say, I'm gonna go on and own my 60. It's exciting to me as 60 year old to have something that I know will continue to build me.
SPEAKER_02Right. Oh my goodness. Well, I want to ask you, um, as we're coming to a close, anything else that you feel like you're like, this is just on my heart, or this is what the my last takeaway? What do you want the people to know?
SPEAKER_00That's a really good question. Um I feel like I I just want to give people permission to put something down. Um I also want to acknowledge the heaviness that you are experiencing, whether or not you are willing to acknowledge it yet. Um, I'd like to encourage you to acknowledge that or to acknowledge the fact that it is heavy, whatever it is. Don't compare your load to their load over there or his load over there. Just what you are carrying is heavy, and you have permission to put it into far more capable hands than yours, and that's God, and allow him to do the rest. So yeah.
SPEAKER_03No, that's good. That's very good. Thank you so much. We hope that um there's in this time is the opportunity to bring practical tools and a practical s resource, is what we desire to do. A lot of times in this podcast, we talk about opening the conversations, like leaning into things. Is it a difficult thing to lean against uh uh the grind and the cost? We're not trying to take you away from if you feel like you are a grinder or you are a hustler, like or that is the way you go about things. We're just trying to get you to consider the cost and to bring balance. And so I believe not, I want to use the word culminate because I don't think this conversation is over. I think it's far from over. I think the more we sit with valuable resources like uh release, rest, and remain, the more we'll have conversations now about how we're practically doing that. We are so grateful because we didn't know where the practical resource. We in private rooms, we were like, okay, we opened up this conversation. What are we gonna lend now to bring tangible how-to or tangible? And I don't know, there's something about the lived experience and how someone traverses through. Certain things are taught, other things are caught. And so this book encapsulates both of those. I can teach you how to do it, and you can catch how to do it based on my lived experience. So we are grateful for uh Miss Yvette Henry that has gone before us in the flow in the work, in the breath of it all, to give us an opportunity to breathe deeply, to live more uh fully, and to know what we need to do, pick up, put down, but more than anything, to know who we need to abide in and who will give us the answers to it all.
SPEAKER_02That's really good. So at this rate, we can go to yvet and henry.com to be able to purchase any copy that you want. We'll have the links in the bio and the links um down below so that you can access this resource if you really need it.
SPEAKER_04Yes.