Dropout to Dealmaker: Ricky Blair's $30M Journey

What if the kid who dropped out of school at 16 came back to sell his company for $30 million?

Ricky Blair didn’t follow the traditional path—but he forged one hell of a journey. This is the story of how mentorship, grit, and bold vision turned a teenage outsider into a game-changing entrepreneur.

At just 16, Ricky Blair left school feeling like the odds were stacked against him. A year later, a mentor unlocked his potential and set him on a path to defy expectations. Fueled by grit and unrelenting drive, Ricky entered London’s cutthroat real estate market, ready to prove everyone wrong. 

By 24, he launched Hatton Real Estate, transforming the industry with bold ideas. Six years later, he sold it for $30 million. Now in Los Angeles, Ricky channels his success into Platform Seven, a mentoring platform reshaping how future leaders are made. 

During this conversation, Ricky shares lessons from his rise, the power of mentorship, and his mission to inspire others to chase audacious goals. His story proves that with determination and vision, anyone can write their narrative. 

🎧Don’t miss this journey of resilience and reinvention. Tune in to discover how Ricky challenges the status quo and empowers others to own their success. 

🎯 What You’ll Hear:

• Why Ricky believes failure is a better teacher than success
• How mentorship changed the course of his life—and can change yours
• The mindset that fueled a $30M exit by age 30
• Lessons from building (and selling) a business in one of the world’s toughest markets
• Why he’s betting big on the next generation of bold thinkers

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Transcript

Introduction to Ricky Blair

Rich 0:15

Thank you for listening . Norma . This one for me was personal . Ricky Blair is not just a guest , but he's also a really good friend , someone I've known for quite a while , and his story is wild . Someone like him going from a high school dropout to a powerhouse businessman I mean that really is like next level hustle .

Norma 0:32

His whole story is exciting . I mean he started in the UK with barely anything and built a career most people only dream of . I mean that kind of drive is so important .

Rich 0:42

It is . It's him and it's about his passion for mentorship as well . Ricky is really proof . You know , someone with the right guidance at the right time can really make a change in the world , can really change their entire future .

Norma 0:53

I love that he went from being mentored to now mentoring . I mean he's mentoring the next generation of leaders . I mean that's a full circle moment , isn't it ? It really is , and you know that's a full circle moment , isn't ?

Rich 1:03

it , it really is , and you know it's a powerful moment . You know , also , on top of that , you got to mention these stories as well Hollywood business , five state deals . You know , someone like him has seen it all and he breaks it down with such humility and such wisdom .

Norma 1:16

So this one is for those risk takers , the dreamers , anyone who's ready to level up , because if Ricky's story proves anything , it's that success isn't about where you start .

Rich 1:32

It's about where you're willing to go . It is about where you're willing to go , so let's get into it and let's get there . Today , we have someone from my past that I met whilst here at the hotel I'm staying at now .

Norma 1:45

And where is here ?

Rich 1:46

Here is LA . Well , we're here at Vitello's , but in LA it must have been , we said six years ago . Casually just a spark of a conversation sitting by Paul but it's strange , it's strange , you didn't know each other . Very strange . Yeah , we didn't know each other and here we are today . So our guest today . We are very fortunate to have on Ricky Blair , entrepreneur , who has grew up in England , left our sunny shores to come over to LA .

Norma 2:12

To the sunnier California sunshine , the much sunnier sunshine of the Atlantic . Yeah , it's a bit of a contrast over here . But thanks for the introduction . My pleasure Welcome , Ricky , Thank you so much for being here . Thank you . What bonded you guys ?

Rich 2:27

together when you first met probably our accent , I would say , because I must have said something to the kids or it must be messing around and we just started talking and we had quite a good conversation actually , if I remember correctly .

Ricky Blair 2:37

Yeah , I just think there was like some common commonality there and we just it was probably .

Rich 2:41

Oh , do you know so ?

Ricky Blair 2:42

and so something like that .

Rich 2:44

Jewish religion there was like one degree of separation . Someone always knows someone else .

Ricky Blair 2:48

I'd say that's pretty much how it went . No , we just got on , had a nice conversation .

Rich 2:51

Ironically , daniel , my son , ends up working at Ricky's company two years later , just by by sheer chance , because I remember Daniel went in for an interview and it was like dad guess what ? Guess who's working , guess who come here ? Went to see and it was like it's a ricky blair went , you mean the guy we met by the pool . He said yeah . So uh , yeah , it's a very small world , very , very small world . Maybe that's not such a coincidence . Maybe things happen .

Norma 3:16

Wait a minute so he , your , your son , interviewed with you , but you didn't know before going in , or you had no before going in .

Rich 3:23

We didn't know all I know . Or you had no before no , not before going in , we didn't know all I know is we had a conversation .

Ricky Blair 3:28

Daniel was in an interesting place with his career right and I was building my company in real estate and we had a like . A big focus was on employing and giving the opportunity to young people and I didn't want to unsettle daniel with where he was at , in his , in his , in his work but things seem to just align at the right place at the right time . Maybe a year and a half , two years later , I think , the right opportunity came along and Daniel came and joined and the rest sort of . Yeah , the rest is history , wow how bizarre .

Norma 3:59

But I actually love stories like that , when people just come back into your life , because there's always like , how did that happen ? And you know anyway , and people always . I believe that people come into your life for a reason . I'd agree right , so hence we're sitting here today for a reason yes so , ricky , yes , okay , what's what .

Rich 4:17

Where we like to start is , again , understanding of who you are , where you started . You know what , what drove you to to one , to into property and to do the things that you did . Because one thing I would say is that you built up a highly successful business , one of the best in the industry , and you were , like we discussed recently , you were the real . It was a real David and Goliath aspect insofar as there's some big hitters in the property market in the UK , but I've been around for a long time hat and real estate comes along and just turns it on its head I mean it starts probably as a 16 year old kid 16 , 16 .

Ricky Blair 4:51

okay I'm , I'm in school , I have my exams and I fail these exams so badly . I think my well , I know my two . My three grades were two e's and one u , and I had no call . I had no option but to leave school because no college or university would take me on and I , being completely transparent , had never felt so scared in my life because I didn't know what was going to come of my life

High School Dropout to Real Estate Success

Ricky Blair 5:16

and I was brought up very much to believe , as a lot of us are , that if you fail in education you're doomed out there in the real world , Exactly exactly .

Ricky Blair 5:23

And I was in a bit of a sticky situation . I had no one there to sort of help me navigate myself out of that mess I found myself in and I figured the best thing I could do was get out into the real world and start working immediately . And my thought was , if other people of my age were going off traveling or going to college , university or doing all three , by the time they went out into the real world and started working , I might end end up with a three , four , five year headstart over them , and that could be my edge . So I didn't know what I wanted to do . I had no idea whatsoever . All I knew was I was desperate as hell to find some way of succeeding and somehow , miraculously , I land myself a job in a commercial real estate brokerage in central London and this company I'm a 16-year-old kid they give me this job and they're renting and selling some of the largest office buildings in central London to some of the biggest companies in the world . You're probably wondering how I managed to land myself such a drop .

Norma 6:13

I'm still like , I'm perplexed . I'm like how did a 16-year-old even land that gig ?

Ricky Blair 6:17

Well , it wasn't as glamorous my job as it sounds . My official job title was the office junior . Okay , I mean , I kind of refer to it . Looking back now , it's like the office bitch . Basically I , I , literally there were 60 people working there and from the minute I walked in the office every morning at 8 am to the minute I left at 6 pm , whatever anyone needed glass of water , a sandwich , a cup of coffee , something printed , some mail , delivered they came to dry cleaning I was stuck in this basement which , looking back it felt .

Norma 6:42

It felt like a dungeon . There was no windows .

Ricky Blair 6:45

The ceiling heights below it smelled down there and I was going nowhere very , very quickly and I remember looking back having this overwhelming feeling that the people that fail education as badly as I did , this is literally what happens to us . We end up down here in this dungeon . One day , out of nowhere , I get a call which completely changed my life . I get a call from a complete stranger , a guy called Nigel , and Nigel is this 55-year-old , super , super successful British guy , multi-multi-millionaire . He owns something like 300 bits of real estate all around the world . And Nigel invites me out for lunch . And immediately I'm completely intimidated . I can't understand why he's taking me out for lunch . There's nothing I can do to help him . I don't know anything about real estate , but I've got nothing to lose .

Ricky Blair 7:28

And I go for this lunch and Nigel asked me about me and I told him everything . I pretty much just told you that I failed , that I was scared , and I also told him I was determined to find some way of succeeding . And after he asked me a couple of questions and I'll never forget , he looked up at me and he just said he just said , ricky , I'm gonna , I'm gonna help you . And I thought he was joking , and he definitely wasn't joking .

Ricky Blair 7:50

From from that minute on , nigel just took me under his wing and every four weeks without fail , we'd meet at the same pizza restaurant in central London , the same table in the window , and I'd go along with a scrumpled up piece of paper where I would just ask him . Even to this day , I just I'm obsessed with asking people questions , and I would ask him about how he succeeded . He would answer them and he'd just teach me . But what I started to realize was he wasn't teaching me what school had taught me or what any of my friends were learning in college or university . He was teaching me the things you needed for the real world to succeed in the real world , things like how to goal set , how to manifest .

Norma 8:29

He taught you how to manifest .

Ricky Blair 8:31

Yes .

Norma 8:32

You were 16 ?

Ricky Blair 8:33

16 , 17 at this time . That is young .

Norma 8:36

Yeah , that is young .

Rich 8:37

More than he has to understand it .

Norma 8:39

Well , yeah .

Ricky Blair 8:40

He was giving me books to accompany it , but he was also teaching me about how to use your intuition , how to make decisions , how to be happy , how to do what you love .

Norma 8:50

But also it's like life living , life lessons too .

Ricky Blair 8:53

How did he get ahold of you ? I mean , was it he knew of my dad . My dad was an antique jeweler and I think Nigel bought a piece of jewelry for my dad . They started talking and my dad said to Nigel that my son , Ricky's gone into the business and Nigel just said let me reach out to him . And then he just stayed with me as my mentor and from then on things started to just move , Like I got a promotion from the dungeon to the second floor .

Norma 9:18

You saw a light , I saw a light .

Ricky Blair 9:21

And just yeah , just normality . Then I got this new job in another company and all of a sudden I started to earn money and things were moving and I was learning and I felt useful and things were just sort of starting to fall into place . But then I had my first big goal . My first big dream was I always wanted to go into business with my best friend , sean . Sean and I . He grew up with me , we went to the same primary school when we were six or seven years old and Sean also dropped out of school and I had this harebrained idea that I wanted to set up a business with him . I just started to implement all the things Nigel told me about visualization , manifesting , setting goals , the importance of knowing what it is you want . Sean thought I was crazy when I told Sean years prior that we're going to sell the business together , Especially at that age as well .

Norma 10:04

right yeah , he looked at me like I was mad .

Ricky Blair 10:05

But I think you talk about what drove me One of the things . If someone tells me I can't , I just see red and I think Sean thinking I was crazy for even considering setting up a company one day , he thought I was crazy . So I just this is what's going to happen .

The Power of Mentorship

Ricky Blair 10:25

And then , when we were 24 years old , we set up our first company , hatton Real Estate . It was unbelievable .

Ricky Blair 10:28

I think I've got more comfortable saying in America than I was able to in England , because I think the humility doesn't work as well here but we completely transformed and revolutionized the entire commercial real estate sector in central London and I think that was a hybrid of tenacity , work ethic . I think it was absolutely being in the right place at the right time . But also Nigel one of the most important things he taught me about business was you don't compete with what people are doing , you change the landscape . Or , as he would coin it , he'd always say to me you don't compete , you change the game . So all I was interested in was not how could I compete with those people ? It was like how can we innovate , how can we transform the industry ?

Ricky Blair 11:04

And it was unbelievable . I mean you referenced like David and Goliath . We were competing with the biggest real estate companies in the world and , I think , a we were so innovative and doing things so differently to the big companies that that was what gave us our edge . We had this confidence If we could get in the room with a real estate developer and we were going to get the ability to pitch for the work millions of square feet , hundreds of thousands of square feet of office buildings but we believed we could win the work and we were . We were winning . It felt like we were winning pretty much everything take me back .

Norma 11:38

I'm still on . How does a 16 year old , how were you so receptive to the advice that you were getting ? Is it something that you , deep inside , believed that you wanted more ? I mean because you take the work of manifesting and visualization , that's that there is a belief , trust , there's all these other words that have to exist in you for you to be even open to it first of all , and then actually believe in it and then , later on , exercise it .

Ricky Blair 12:07

It's a great question . I think there's two parts to that . One is I would be very skeptical about that sort of stuff , manifesting visualization . It all seems a little bit woo-woo . But I grew up . One of my very good friends' mother is a medium healer reader , so I would always ask questions and there was part of me that normally would think that's a bit crazy . But I knew this woman . I knew she was smart . She had a head to . You know , she was a smart woman and I just asked her questions about this sort of stuff . And the other thing is when you're a 16 , 17-year-old kid and you've failed so miserably and I joke , you're stuck downstairs in the dungeon . You know making people's coffees . You have got nothing to lose yeah .

Ricky Blair 12:48

So when nigel's sitting there telling me how you get like , you know , he said like life's like a menu if you can see on the menu , you can choose it . If you can choose it , you can have it . Like . It sounds like some sort of gimmick , but when you're a 17 year old kid and a you have nothing to lose and b you're hearing this from someone who you admire . He's probably one of the smartest human beings I've ever met and I just started to mess around with this visualization manifesting and all the rest of it , and I started with small little things .

Norma 13:13

Like a parking lot or , you know , finding a dollar , a $5 bill on the floor or something like that .

Ricky Blair 13:19

And every and yeah those sort of things . And then it was things like a car , like I wasn't a big car guy , but I just was a stupid thing that would be fine if it happened , and if it didn't I wouldn't care . So it was a porsche and it happened . So I then just thought to myself if this works , why don't I just keep raising the bar and keep making the visions as big as I can ? That's kind of what sort of prompted me on the manifesting process and it became your go-to .

Norma 13:44

It sounds like so . Once you , once you learn the ways , you practice them right . You got , you got a promotion and then did you was your mindset was already driven that way , like you started hardwiring yourself to believe that and live , live like that yeah , I got obsessed with setting goals , really obsessed .

Ricky Blair 14:02

I learned very young that it's something like one% of the world population know what it is they want . If you take that group of 1% , 3% of that group will actually put pen to paper and write down their goals , and the ones who write down their goals are it's something like 10 times more likely to achieve the goals they've set for themselves . I was just laser focused on goal after goal after goal , so it was just like next my own company , next revenue numbers . When I talk about real estate , I'm not this phenomenal 10 out of 10 real estate agent . The difference between us and what we did as a company and our competitors was we knew how important it was to set goals . We just always knew what our North Star was and when we ticked them , we just went to the next thing , and I've just been setting goals ever since .

Norma 14:50

Wow , and is that something that was ? You started your own company , you started implementing right that exercise of goal building , project and visualization . Was that your management style and your leadership style ?

Ricky Blair 15:03

Amongst my business partners and I . I always set the vision for them , like I always , I wanted to sell that company . So my dream was to move to America and to do something which I always wanted to do since I was a kid , in a different field , different arena . But I knew we had to sell that company and I mapped out that vision and I there was a day , bizarrely , where I presented that vision to my two business partners and they both looked at me like I was completely bonkers and I think there was some cursing going on .

Ricky Blair 15:31

They basically told me to get out of their way . And yeah , I just , I didn't . Not everyone knew the goals . Like you talk about visualization , manifesting and setting goals , I never told anyone what my goals were . I never told anyone what my goals were . I never told anyone what my dreams are , because I was always told as a kid what couldn't happen or wasn't possible for me . So I just thought , if I didn't tell people what my goals were , no one could tell me what wouldn't happen .

Rich 15:55

I was always told what wasn't possible it's probably better to keep it to yourself . Anyway , let me ask you a question . So , amongst uh sean , it was in michael , yeah , as your partners and your star , your team , okay , did you share in terms of not what your goals were , but the idea of manifesting the idea of you know , look , if you see it , you can be it . You know that type of that type of view , or did you keep that ? You still keep that , or did you keep that to yourself ?

Ricky Blair 16:21

we had a bit huge . So when it came to hiring staff , almost as a way of thanking Nigel , I had to pay it forward . So we'd only hire young kids . We only employed kids coming out of school , college or very early on in their careers and I felt it was my responsibility to help them the way Nigel helped me . Sure , no one told me how to lead people or manage people , build a company , because I didn't go to business school or anything like that .

Ricky Blair 16:46

But the way I learned was I looked at sports managers . I watched how they led their teams and the greatest managers and this links into manifesting and self-belief the best players in the world . I learned from reading their stories . The reason why they got there was because their manager or their coach made them believe they could be the best , and because they believed it , they became it . So I think my responsibility with some of these young people was making them aware of their potential and actually making them believe that they were at that level . So there was an element of , I guess , manifesting indirectly in that respect .

Ricky Blair 17:24

But when it came to the big visions and dreams for the company , which the ultimate dream was to sell the company for tens of millions of dollars , pounds . I only shared that with my two business partners , but the mini targets along the way I shared with everyone . And the reason why we decided to share it with everyone is because when you've got three people or two people believing in a goal , believing in an all-star , that's pretty powerful . You're literally doubling or tripling the potency , the power . When you've got 30 people buying into it and actually believing in that , believing we're going to hit that number , that's like rocket fuel . So we utilized it in that kind of way Wow See it works .

Norma 18:04

I know , no , I know it works . I've I've I've been doing it myself too . But it's always so nice to hear someone who's applying it to business and said and says it outwardly , like publicly , because it is a bit woo woo . But when you , when you sit down and you actually start meeting professional athletes , visionaries , they all , this is all . This is the same formula that they have in their head of how they achieve and you always wonder , well , how do you get there ? Were you given a silver spoon ? And you're like no , I manifested it . There's something energetically that happens in it . But step one is believing it and knowing that you can do that , but do you use it in other aspects of your life ?

Ricky Blair 18:47

I use it in everything .

Norma 18:49

It's a way of living , isn't it ? Yeah , a bit .

Ricky Blair 18:52

In every aspect of my life . I think the biggest dream I ever had was moving to America . Why did ?

Norma 18:57

you want to come here .

Ricky Blair 18:59

There's a long answer to the short .

Norma 19:03

Besides the obvious , the sunshine , the food .

Ricky Blair 19:05

As a six , seven-year-old kid , I always wanted to be in America . It sounds bizarre , like there's probably some people that think I was born in the wrong country . There's something about America and the belief out here , the American dream , which you probably think . What's he talking about ? Like there is this ability to go and do whatever it is you want in this country , and a friend of mine he said it perfectly about six months ago . He went back to the UK and I'm sorry if I'm speaking out of turn here , talking about the UK versus America . No matter what's going on in the UK , there's always a bit of like , maybe scepticism or a bit of like , I don't know . I don't know if negativity is the the right term , but in america there's always , no matter what's going on , there's always a bit of hope .

Rich 19:49

There's always this belief that something's possible yes , I'll put it to you this way , so in the uk it's very much , the answer is no , what's the question ? But in the us it's very much . The answer is yes , what's ?

Norma 19:58

the question .

Rich 19:59

Yes , it is , and that's that's how I would interpret what you just said . It's exactly how I feel . Look , we're very similar . I have , probably for the last 20 years tried to find a way to work in the US . You know , that's been my dream , okay . Now , until I met you , I didn't know . Sorry , norma , that is yes . I didn't know what manifesting was . I'd never heard of it , it didn't even enter my head . However , from conversations I've had with Norma , from books I've read and reading , all of a

Manifesting Business Success

Rich 20:32

sudden , yeah , things it says make sense . It really does make sense . There's certain things when you look back in your own life , you think to yourself I understand why that happened . Now I really do . So . Obviously it was on my mind enough that norma and I met . We had another partner and we set up a business and we joint . We set up our podcast , which has been , you know this is now . We've been doing it since august last year , so just over a year . So that's great and we have a company over here .

Rich 21:00

So one of the goals I set myself a long time ago has come to fruition , and the reason why it took so long ? Because I got in my own way , because I didn't know what it is or how I was going to do it or how to make it happen . You know how to believe it into existence and I think that's a lot as a lesson I've learned along the way . Did you figure out the how ? Yeah , and what was that ? The how to do ? It was to do it with someone that I , um , that I , I had , I trusted over here for someone to come over here on their own and to do something with , not knowing anyone , is , is , is , it's hard , okay , because you , you got , no , you got no route to entry . Okay .

Rich 21:41

So , brief story . So , norman , I met at a trade show in january last year . I got introduced . Uh , it was an event I wasn't even going to go to . I turn up , the guy that had was having this mixer . I said look , I'd like to introduce you to someone . Come over here , introduces me to norma . Okay , norma used to work for paramount and george lucas at Lucasfilm . No , yes , yes , really okay .

Rich 22:06

Ensued a half an hour conversation of me just like just staring , unbelievable , I couldn't believe that . You know , there was someone that was been an industry that is like almost like sacrosanct , and we I just love the conversation we have . We really hit it off . Then met again . Norma came with her company to London . I got off to another event , went , met her and then a couple of weeks after that I emailed Norma . I said look , I've been kicking around the idea of doing a podcast . Are you interested ? Norma came back and said yes , I am . And it kind of went from there . The only reason why I asked Norma is because I felt comfortable asking her because of the conversations we had . I only had two conversations , but I just felt comfortable . I felt like Norma was someone I could trust and that was the how . That , for me , was the how .

Ricky Blair 22:54

But you didn't try and figure out the how did you ?

Rich 22:56

No , it came to me , it was just there .

Ricky Blair 22:57

That's it , that's it , and that was when I asked you the how I know .

Norma 23:02

I was staying quiet too . I'm like I wonder if he's going to answer this question .

Ricky Blair 23:09

I teach . We have courses where we teach business owners and young kids coming out of college manifesting , and it's a six to eight week program . And the one piece of the six to eight week program that I wouldn't even say blows people away the most , but that surprise them or allows it all to make that bit more sense , is all around the how and it's . You don't need to worry about the how . You can't work out the how , you just need to know where you're getting to and the hows ie the serendipitous synchronistic moments you're referring to as to how you guys met and all the rest of it . The how presents itself . You're literally like drawing it to you .

Norma 23:44

You magnetize it to you laws of attraction come , start coming into play . Yeah , yeah , and I think . But you know why we get stuck is because we're programmed that way . School , our logical brain , you need to have a plan . Everything needs to be ironed out , the steps . I mean when a simple example , example here in the United States , when you're in grade school and you have to , you know you're doing math , you have to write out all the steps , your teacher would force you , if you don't show me all the steps to validate how you got the answer , then you then you know , then the answer is is wrong , even though you put the answer in there . So you're , we're trained that way in school , and so there is this thing of if there isn't a security , if there isn't the the logic , then then it's flawed . So it's hard for us to get out of that way , the way we've been programmed .

Ricky Blair 24:33

You're smiling I am smiling because I think you're absolutely . I couldn't agree with you more . But I think there's a bigger problem that occurs even before that process . We're talking about figuring out how to achieve a goal , how to achieve whatever it is you're trying to get to . But the even bigger problem , in my opinion , is we don't even know that we can set goals or choose what we want from our lives . Set goals or choose what we want from our lives and that society , school , parents , the news media that gets in our way at such an early age . So as kids we're , you know , young kids we're all like dreamers . We've got this like childlike nature to us that by the time we enter the real world , that's gone . And if we still have those dreams or goals intact , it's either because you're incredibly lucky , a little bit different , or quirky , or crazy or you have just incredible parents who right you know , out in LA you meet .

Ricky Blair 25:23

You meet movie stars , actors , musicians , um entrepreneurs that knew from as a kid what they wanted to do , but the beauty they had or the fortune they had was I had parents on their side that actually supported and believed in those dreams .

Rich 25:36

It's funny you say actually , because we've probably interviewed maybe 35 , almost 40 people .

Norma 25:43

Oh , in total ?

Rich 25:43

in total , yeah , 40 people and the one thing that you find that comes across is that I would say 99% of the people that we've interviewed have come from nothing , as in they don't have a Hollywood background . They don't have , they're not come from .

Norma 25:55

They don't have a silver spoon in their mouth .

Rich 25:56

No , they don't have they're not come from , didn't have a silver spoon in their mouth , so but what they've done and how they've got where they wanted it because they've wanted it . There's a desire there and one of our guests described it as almost an obsession to get where he wanted to get to , because he could see it , you know , and that I'm interpreting as visualization . He knew he would get there . They all knew they would get there and they wouldn't accept .

Norma 26:19

And there he would get there . They all knew they would get there and they wouldn't accept . And there is this , and then it goes even deeper . It's this knowingness I don't , I just know it , like I know my first name it's just it . There's a draw , there's a pull , it's just it's there , and and I cannot explain it to you , I just know it's , it's my thing , and so when it's your thing , then it's your being and it ends up being your truth , and you can't argue against anyone's truth . Your own truth . Right , absolutely , that's it . That's who you are . It's almost soul-like kind of right . And so you , using that and it sounds like going back to your career , you applied that , but you were obviously successful in it because you created this . You sold your company . For how much ?

Ricky Blair 27:00

it was in dollars . It equates to approximately 30 million dollars .

Norma 27:05

Wow going okay . So that kid that struggled in school for reasons that you haven't shared yet , but he struggled in school . Like , do you have conversations with that little kid that struggled and do you say we did it or you're like we're not done . So I got very profound now .

Ricky Blair 27:26

No , I can't believe it happened . I yeah , I can't believe it happened .

Rich 27:32

All right . So let me ask you on that , actually , because you that was your goal and you almost willed it into existence . So by definition , it happened , and it happened pretty much the way you wanted it to happen . So you should believe it happened . Do you see what I mean ?

Ricky Blair 27:51

I know exactly what you're saying and now , looking back , it blows me away . But I , absolutely I was in Malibu about seven or eight years ago and I went to the ocean , I went to the beach and this is a true story and I had this visual of me being in America and I don't share this story that often because it does sound a bit nuts . I had this vision of getting to the end of my life and regretting not coming to America , like I didn't want to be on my deathbed or whatever , regretting it . So I promised myself in that moment , I gave myself three years and I promised myself that if I don't get to America by in three years , I will just drop everything I've got going on in my life in England . I'll find a way of getting there .

Ricky Blair 28:33

So I went back to the hotel , which was the hotel you're staying in right now , the London and I sat on the roof

Revolution in Real Estate

Ricky Blair 28:38

terrace and I wrote out this business plan . And this business plan developed and it ended up being this like 200-page document that my two business partners were unaware I'd put together . And the reason why they didn't know I'd put it together was because if they knew I was putting something together , they'd been on my case , they'd been nudging me . So I spent the whole summer writing out this vision . And so I spent the whole summer writing out this vision and the end of the 200 pages was this number , which equated to about $30 odd million .

Ricky Blair 29:05

And , copying Jim Carrey , I wrote out the check and I went back , presented it to my two business partners . They basically told me both where to go . They thought I'd lost my marbles and they were annoyed with me Because they're like , why would you put that much pressure on us ? That is stupid . And I had this , this check which was in my wallet , which kind of disheveled and it's whatever . And then , and two , literally to the pound , the exact number was what we got for it .

Rich 29:25

I bet I didn't say that to you when you agreed that deal . You know what ?

Ricky Blair 29:28

it's funny because you sure now goes on when he gets asked about the story or if he goes on podcast , he now tells the story about how Ricky had this harebrained idea he's's like it was all Ricky's idea .

Norma 29:37

And that check is . We're trying to tape it back together and frame . We love that check . I still have the check .

Ricky Blair 29:43

You do Okay , good , I promise you .

Rich 29:44

I bet they believe in it now , don't they ? I mean , I think absolutely they do oh .

Norma 29:48

Ricky , that's a great story .

Ricky Blair 29:51

Thank you when is this ?

Norma 29:53

Because it's energy .

Ricky Blair 29:55

I mean , you're talking about decisions and about knowing . I was inspired by people , like you know . You talk about manifesting . I used to get frustrated as a kid . I would research the hell out of this sort of stuff . I would consume and devour everything I could find , the why people struggled with it , ie the how or the timing . There were so many reasons why people struggled with it . But then you would go out there and look at successful people and you'd see they all knew how this stuff worked , some consciously , some subconsciously .

Ricky Blair 30:27

Like the most extreme example and probably not the best example , depending on what your views are Donald Trump . Donald Trump is one living , breathing manifesting machine . He just manifests . You hear him . It's positive , positive , positive . He's always talking about what's happening , what's going to be . When he was a kid in New York , growing up , his parents took him to church and the pastor who gave a sermon every week was a guy called Dr Norman Vincent Peale . Dr Norman Vincent Peale was a guy that wrote all these books about the power of positive thinking . So he was drilled into Donald Trump as a very young kid .

Ricky Blair 31:00

But you know , will Smith was another massive inspiration of this sort of stuff . Again , regardless of what you think of Will Smith . There was two videos or clips that he spoke about which had a massive impact to me . The first was he just said like your goals , it's not a hope or an aim , you just decide . You decide what is good , it's a decision , it's not . This is what I want , this is what's happening .

Ricky Blair 31:20

And then , with his level of grit and determination to make it happen again . This is a really extreme thing , but it hit me . He said it's like something like I'm going to get on a treadmill in a gym and there's a guy or girl on the treadmill next to me and he'd like he'd be competitive . So he'd start running and he'd say there's either two things that are going to happen either they're getting off first or I , as in will , are going to die in the process , meaning he couldn't give a shit . That was what was happening and that was it . That's the level and it takes time and the house which we get so you know steve jobs was big about the how he knew exactly how that sort of stuff worked steve jobs gave an amazing speech in in a university .

Ricky Blair 32:00

Yeah , he talked about the dots joining . He's talking about the how you don't . He said you don't connect the dots .

Norma 32:06

Looking forward only back yep , yep , I get that , I get that , and that was something that I told lyle . So , lyle workman , who we interviewed before you , you joined um we . I told him that the one thing and when I would sit at skywalker ranch and I would sit next to the skywalker ranch , you know the sound , um , the engineers , and I would see them creating stuff and I would tell them . You know , I just learned from them . They said we would focus on the end . We know how it's going , what it's going to sound like , we know how people are going to be moved by it , we know the ripple effect , the score is going to happen and how it's going to affect people's lives . We focus on that .

Norma 32:48

When you focus on that , everything just comes together and it was just like holy shit really , and so they tune into that feeling . And then , when you do that , things just start coming into play . And that is what that level of thinking and release and letting go . Letting go was a big aha moment that it hit me and I saw it firsthand and it made me think all right , well then , that's what I need to do . I just need to let go and trust .

Ricky Blair 33:22

Right and that goes .

Norma 33:23

That goes deep and profound , but the fact that you were introduced to it in such an early age like , well , no wonder now you've you sold your company and now you're onto goodness , so you're onto things that you really want to do , right , yeah , good , good .

Rich 33:38

Talk , talk us through what you're doing , to things that you really want to do , right ? Yeah , good , good , talk . Talk us through what you're doing now . Give us a bit more of an understanding how would I describe it ?

Ricky Blair 33:44

I would describe it that we made a business out of giving young people an opportunity , and that led me to going into colleges and universities in the uk . I knew there was this pain point that when a human being transitions from the education process to the real world , no matter when that happens , whether they're 16 or

The Mentoring Platform Mission

Ricky Blair 34:03

25 , whether they succeeded in education or failed , whether they know exactly what they want to do next , they've got no idea whatsoever . That is a really tough moment and I've been trying to figure out what is the solution to that problem . Whilst there's that problem , you touched upon education before . The education landscape is changing dramatically . At the moment , I think , fewer people are enrolling in college now than ever before . In America today , the dropout rate in college it's almost like one in two . It's up to nearly 50% . So I've been trying to figure out what the solution is , and we've basically interviewed hundreds of college graduates , college students , kids that are considering whether to go to college or not , throughout the US .

Ricky Blair 34:41

Over the last three or four years , we've tried to understand what is their challenge . Why is this post-college depression which is a real thing , by the way why do they struggle so much ? And we've whittled it down to three unique reasons . One is fear . They're scared as to what's next . They don't know what they're going to do with their lives . They're scared . They're not going to fulfill their potential in life .

Ricky Blair 35:00

The second is loneliness . It can be a lonely path . As you guys know , the path of an entrepreneur can be a lonely one , or someone you know , successful people , ambitious people it's a lonely journey . And the third is we just heard it time and time again young people would say I just want someone to show me how college I had fun at , it was a great experience , but no one showed me how to navigate this next piece . So we've created this , this one stop shop mentoring platform that help provides our students with the , the real world teachings of the mentorship , the support and all the resources they need to get to wherever it's they want to get to . I think our first job is actually to help them figure out what it is they want from their life and then we put like a unique plan together to help them get to where they want to get to .

Norma 35:45

The way school is structured is so antiquated . I mean , I feel like even in middle school and grade school , kids should be taught rejection . Kids should be taught you know things are not fair . Kids should be taught these real life lessons . Kids should be taught you know things are not fair . Yeah , kids should be taught these real life lessons . Kids should be taught to volunteer . I think there should be in high school . There should be credits .

Norma 36:04

Everyone should work in a service industry , be a waiter , be a waitress because you learn a lot when you actually have to work and service people . There's there's so many things that I feel like our our school system , especially here in the us , that could it needs a revamp . But the fact that you decided to do that , but why did you decide to do that and not build another $30 million business ?

Ricky Blair 36:28

I always had this ambition as a kid to do something which would have to put it bluntly , maybe like an impact , and to do the same real estate thing all over again didn't appeal to me and America did , and I wanted to test myself . I think people some people could think it's completely nuts and crazy , like I don't put myself through enough stress and pressure .

Ricky Blair 36:48

But and also , just yeah , I think the the impact a mentor had on me . I felt like I don't know , I felt like I had to do this and that is really why I'm out here in America and if it wasn't for that , I wouldn't probably be here . Like , I've got to figure this out , because there are lots of young people that I don't know why I'm just this lucky one that came across a mentor that had such a big impact on my life . Like I shouldn't be the rarity . Oh , I love that you said that I should not be the rarity , but it's also sorry to throw a load of statistics at you . 80% of CEOs in America have received mentorship at some stage of their lives . Nearly 8 in 10 people want to have a mentor , but only 3 out of 10 of us are lucky enough to find someone . Like why it's crazy Mentorship has such a big influence ?

Norma 37:34

Yes , it does it , does it really really does a profound . I mean , I , I did my . We just interviewed my , my previous boss , and I gave him this little award , which he got all choked up and he sent me a long text . He's like it was the world's greatest boss , because even though he , he was my boss , uh , like back in 2000 , not even that , yeah , in the earlys .

Norma 37:57

His leadership style I will never forget he . First of all , he said it's okay if you're a little animated and you're , you know , you use your hands , because I'm very and I use my hands a lot when I speak , but you're passionate and that passion is infectious . So I'm going to help you and he did . He helped me , he gave me promotions and he put me in positions where I could easily be myself and then he was pushing me be more you . And then I had a whole bunch of bosses after him that were not great , and I always refer back to his leadership . So the leader that I am today is because of him , because he exposed me to it , and I will always give credit to him .

Norma 38:41

And when we win an Oscar , I will credit Rob Hollick somehow in that speech . Okay , because he , he doesn't . I don't think he even realizes how much he affected me . To have someone believe in you and to have someone say it is okay to be , be you , you do not have to be in a box , is very releasing to a kid who had big dreams and didn't grow up with a silver spoon in her mouth and was told no all her time . And then you find someone who says yes , and why not do more ?

Ricky Blair 39:12

it's , it's incredibly powerful have you shared with him what you just I did . I did I did .

Norma 39:17

I shared it with when I gave him the award , but then okay .

Rich 39:20

so to take that , okay , if you look at society today , I mean that that was 20 , 25 years ago and not a lovely guy and we met him today , really , really lovely . But we live in a very selfish world . Okay , we live in a society where it's me , me , me , me , me , me , and a lot of that is driven by social media because everyone wants to be this vision of what is perceived as being perfect . It doesn't exist no such thing as perfect , so there's very little room for people to want to take mentorship , because people , you know , you look at the , is it Gen Z , the current generation ?

Ricky Blair 39:55

Yeah , gen Z and Gen Y ? I think yeah .

Rich 39:57

But they I mean I'm probably going to get shot down from what I'm about to say , but they believe everything is instantly downloadable , because they live in a world where everything is instantly downloadable . Everything they want is on their phone . You cannot download experience . The only way you'll get five years experience is by doing something for five years . You can't cut it any other way Again five years , no matter how . You can't cut it any other way again . You can't shortcut that . Okay , you can if you take on someone that will met all you have , the . You have been blessed by having a mentor , someone that will guide you through , yeah , you know a nigel of this world that will turn and say you know what ? I'm gonna help you . I'm gonna help you realize your dream . Okay , well , I'm gonna help you realize a dream you don't even realize you've got yet do you understand ?

Ricky Blair 40:38

I aren't , I do , and I and the thing you said earlier on , which was interesting how we see online this version of success the cars , the boats , the yachts , whatever one's version of success looks like and there's , and it gives this perception that it's that simple to achieve that at 19 , 22 , 23 . That's a , that's a dangerous , damaging thing , but I think there are plenty of people out there that are realistic enough about what it takes no , and absolutely , and those ones absolutely .

Rich 41:08

If we are able to reach out to these people and with what we do , and give them an opportunity or give them inspiration , even to pick up a book or go online and look for something , go and look for the what's your company called the mentor , the mentoring platform . Go and find a mentoring platform . Go and do something to help facilitate a change in their life , then we've done something right , and that's what this is about . This is the essence . We've got five pillars in our business . So inspire , illuminate , navigate , pay it forward , promote positivity . Those are what we stand for as a company . That's what we project out there . We want to see people succeed . You've got to want it as well .

Ricky Blair 41:55

I don't know why we're not all given this information at a very early age .

Rich 41:57

I don't know why we're not all given this information .

Norma 41:59

I know I don't know At a very early age . I don't either , but you need to start at an early age because that's when you're the most influential , that's when you're trying to identify who am I ? Do I belong ? Should I be here ? And I don't know either . But I think you can shift someone's mind . But they have to be A , be open to it and then follow through with it , because it does take work . It is not something that , oh , you read it and you're like , oh , okay , great , now I'm going to be doing this way . No , it's a new muscle , right ?

Ricky Blair 42:27

If you're going to go down the road of conspiracy theories . There is a belief that this stuff was kept away from us because we're creators , aware of how this stuff works . We're not anywhere near as powerful , and there's a belief that once upon a time , someone kept this stuff away from us and it seeped through to just a few people . We should all receive this .

Norma 42:47

We should all receive it . I think we should all receive it , and I said this a couple of times and when we had Terry Nunn here , right , she said the same thing . She's like

Love Is All There Is

Norma 42:55

the universe is benevolent , the universe actually wants to see us happy . The universe will do and and I believe , believe the universe is more creative . We do have a higher self and a higher being , and this is just one aspect of us . There's multiple aspects of us and the world needs good now more than ever , and we all have a gift .

Rich 43:19

If I was able to , I would buy everyone on this planet . What would ?

Norma 43:24

you buy us .

Rich 43:24

Manifesting your Destiny by Wayne Dyer . I would do because that is a very brief book . I mean , I've been reading that book for a while but I've taken my time reading it because I want to take it in and it's so . 18 months ago I wouldn't have known what manifesting was if , if it hit me in the face , but it was a light reading that . But reading the book as I am now is , it was a light but is a light bulb moment because you see things in there and it's like shit .

Rich 43:51

Yes , I get it I understand that and it's like it just , you know , I've always tried to live my life on record . Okay , because you learn every day , you learn something every day . Okay , and that , to me , is really , really is what life is all about . I mean to take that , you take your last breath , you should like , you should learn something new and I , I love it and you know so I I'm at a point now , maybe 40 years after you , but I'm all of a sudden thinking , yes , I understand that and yes , I get where they're coming from and , yes , it makes sense .

Rich 44:26

And if that's , I'm one individual , nobody special , I'm just a person , a billion other people on this planet . Give them the opportunity to see that , to feel that , to have that ep , to feel that , to have that pivot , that , that epiphany that yeah , yeah , I mean I there was . I've written this book and I was away and it was a , it was a part in it . It really made me click and I got up and I went for a walk and I was quite emotional , thinking I get this now do you look back , yeah , and things make sense .

Rich 44:57

That have happened absolutely the things that happen in my life make sense because of various reasons . I mean , when I was ill , I always knew one day I would get ill . I couldn't tell you why , yeah , I just knew I would get ill . There's there's no rhyme or reason to that , it just happened so . But I understand now why it happened . Okay , and it's like if you , if you think negatively or you think shit's gonna happen , yeah , it will happen . On that logic , if you think good things are gonna happen , then good things are gonna happen why would they not yes ?

Rich 45:30

absolutely , and that's a very simple , very basic understanding of , of , of that I'm manifesting your destiny , but it's other people would just take that okay and just go with it they'd be so much happier .

Norma 45:45

Well , they need to . They need to join his program thanks for the plug there .

Ricky Blair 45:55

It's , uh , the company's called platform seven , but the website is TheMentoringPlatformcom . Thementoringcom .

Norma 46:01

Okay , mentoringplatformcom and so when people go up there are .

Ricky Blair 46:04

There's different programs .

Rich 46:05

Are they online or are they in person ?

Ricky Blair 46:07

They are both . Both . We do some online which are pre-recorded , Others are live , either online or in person .

Rich 46:14

I'm going to ask you a question listen to what you do you not say part in it with with absolute pleasure because it'll be good . You know it'd be good to speak to some of the people if you had no objection to it . Come to get an understanding of how they feel , like a before and after you can do that , or alternatively .

Ricky Blair 46:39

I mean one example we actually there's some entrepreneurs in Holland . In the Netherlands , they had their own Netflix TV show and they run a jewellery company and they did the course , the eight-week course , and their cousin , who's ? Bizarrely , she's a judge on the Shark Tank version in Holland and I couldn't actually understand why all these people were coming onto this course , because they were already incredibly successful . Two of the three girls had this thing about being in Forbes 30 under 30 and after the course , that was a thing they focused on and they they manifested in that . So with you we can talk to people like that , or with pleasure you can jump in with , but actually they'll be great people to talk to . Yeah .

Norma 47:14

I think we're gonna start seeing you manifesting during this podcast you already have good , good , I'm glad . But you're right , I wish more people have it and they will , I think . But it takes us , and it takes the community of us and like-minded people to normalize it , or ayahuasca , or whatever . You need to do some alternative drug to get this . You know this feeling of euphoria , to get that level of thinking , but then you come back to earth and it doesn't exist . No , it fucking exists you speak to professional athletes .

Norma 47:53

They spend time , you know , working with mind , working with visualization , when they get hurt . That's why they heal better . You know professional , you know vision visionaries they spend as much money working on this than their diet and their . You know the physical , the physicality of whatever they need to do and it's like why not ? Why not do this ? And so the fact that you're now dedicating this next chapter in your life to it must you must be so . It must feel a you're on the right journey . Right , because now you're it must you must be so . It must feel a you're on the right journey . Right , because now you're doing this . But it must be so fulfilling , knowing that you're providing this self . You know you're not being selfish about it . You've learned something and now you want others to achieve . That's actually I don't know . Tell me , am I , am I correct ? How do you ? What do you feel ?

Ricky Blair 48:42

I enjoyed real estate and I enjoyed leading a team of young people , but I didn't love real estate . That's the difference . It was a vehicle for you . Yeah , it was a vehicle this is . I get to do what I love every single day , and the only problem with that is I don't know where my life ends and my work begins , because it's one , it's just so . My biggest challenge now is actually taking time , time away and like time off working , but it's I , love it , it's I feel very lucky , so what we'd like you to do ?

Rich 49:12

yeah , it's manifest a card that has a question on it . Okay , if you would read it out um answer it , if you would , and then Norma and I will answer it as well .

Norma 49:25

We asked this from all of our guests . Oh , no , what ?

Ricky Blair 49:32

what have you learned about love ?

Rich 49:40

that's your universe coming to you there .

Norma 49:41

Yeah , exactly , I mean , I know what the answer is .

Ricky Blair 49:48

Like a mentor I've had , has spoken , has said this over and over and over and over again virtually my whole life , and the older I get , the more I realize it's absolutely real and it's such a simple thing . But this is it . Love is all there is the end . That's what I was realized is absolutely real and it's such a simple thing . But this is it . Love is all there is the end . That's what .

Ricky Blair 50:07

I was going to say Sorry for stealing your ass yeah thank you , which means I'm going to give you a second no .

Norma 50:13

No , someone told you that . Your mentor said that to you . Okay , so . Another mentor , like a spiritual mentor , a woman , a wonderful woman A woman who's a spiritual mentor of mine who died and she came back . She was clinically dead for like 10 minutes and she came back and one of the messages because I asked her was she was told love is all that matters .

Rich 50:51

Okay was she was told .

Rich 50:52

love is all that matters , okay , so take that as a given , because it is because , in the absence of love , you see what happens in the world today ? Right , it becomes a world , becomes toxic , yeah , but what it ? What ? What was the question ? Read out the question , sorry . What have you learned about love ? All right , so what have you learned about love ? Okay , so saying love is all there is is a statement . What have you learned about love ? All right , so what have you learned about love ? Okay , so saying love is all there is is a statement . What have you learned about love ? Okay , I ? I ? My answer to that is love is the most deep , warm , cherishing , nourishing , nurturing , embodying , encompassing feeling any human being can feel to , from one person to another . Okay , that that is what it means in in my eyes . Okay , now , love , like success , are two very ambiguous words . Okay , I love . I love chocolate . Okay , I'm not in love with chocolate .

Rich 51:38

Okay , success could be getting out of bed in the morning . Some people's success is running a marathon . It's got different meanings , but what is that's the is , that's what it does . You know , your parents , your friends , your mentor , your girlfriend , your boyfriend , your this , your that , it doesn't matter . If I'm looking at love , that's what love is and there's no other way you love . Okay , because if it's none of those , it's not love .

Ricky Blair 52:05

If I thought it was a bad answer , I probably wouldn't tell you it was a bad answer .

Ricky Blair 52:08

But , I actually I think it's . I don't think you need me to tell you , I just think it's an absolutely magnificent answer and I think part of the reason

Final Words of Wisdom

Ricky Blair 52:17

why I had the old shit when I saw the question was A because I think there are so many different ways you can answer , and B , what my mentor has been telling me all these years . Just just , it was just . She'll be smiling and laughing when I , when I , when she hears what the question was .

Rich 52:32

But that is on point , like it's it's just such a powerful answer , Amazing To me 56 years ago .

Norma 52:39

But you got it . You got it . That's the most important part . You got it .

Rich 52:42

So the last thing , ok , we would ask , ok , as we do it all , I guess is you've had an amazing journey . Ok , you've obviously had things in your life that you , that you've had a great run . You've had some highs , you've had some lows . You're doing what you love . You're not working , you're . It's your passion , it's you passion , you're doing what you love . But to anyone else , to any other 16-year-old that's listening to this , or parent of a 16-year-old that's listening to this , what advice would you give to ?

Ricky Blair 53:13

someone starting out , can I give it through a very brief , 90-second story ? With the greatest of pleasure , I listen to a podcast on the weekend , which may be one of the greatest podcasts I've ever heard , other than this one . Other than this one , but single episode , sure .

Ricky Blair 53:29

Okay okay , single episode . Nothing's competing with this . Very good . You know the fighter , the UFC fighter , a guy called Francis Ngannou . Francis Ngannou grew up in Cameroon and he dreamed of getting to America and being a fighting champion , a boxing or martial art champion . That was his obsession and he knew the only way he could make his dream come true was to get to America . The only way he could get to America was first he had to get to Europe .

Ricky Blair 53:59

Getting from Cameroon to Europe in 2012, . This was , I think , was , a nightmare . He tried by boat . He tried to go over fences to get into Morocco and Europe . He failed six times . He got caught . He fell on barbed wire . He tried over and over again . Eventually , on the seventh time , he got to Morocco .

Ricky Blair 54:15

He goes into a gym and he gets to Germany via Morocco . He goes into a gym . He's never boxed in his life . He's never boxed in his life . He's a 23-year-old kid with his dream of boxing and he's got no money , nowhere to stay . And he goes into the gym and he finds this trainer and he said this is my story . I've been trying to get to Europe for , however many years , blah , blah , blah . I've got no money , I've never boxed . And he just says to this boxer can you ? To the trainer , he said can you help me ? The trainer said yes . The trainer said I'm going to teach you . This is a true story . The teacher the trainer , taught him how to fight and found him a home .

Ricky Blair 54:46

Francis Ngannou got to America , became world champion . He's now a multimillionaire living his dream . And the question that he got asked was why did you keep going ? Why didn't you give up ? And he looked at the interview and he said why would I give up ?

Ricky Blair 55:01

It was my dream and he said but even after six times of failing , and he said , he said he said the ultimate failure is not the , the mini failures , the failing the first , second , third , fourth , fifth and sixth time . The ultimate failure is not trying in the first place . So , to answer your question , the , the only advice I would ever give anyone is go for what you really want , no restrictions . Don't listen to what your parents or society or anyone else is telling you to dream or vision or goal set or manifest or North Star you want to set . Go for what you really want and just go for it . And if you can implement the majority of things we've discussed in this conversation , you don't need to worry about how you're going to get there . You will find a way and it will happen . So that would be my advice , that's really good .

Norma 55:46

Amen .

Rich 55:47

Ricky , it's been an absolute pleasure . It's the longest conversation we've had seven years ago , really .

Norma 55:53

And it's on a recorded podcast .

Rich 55:54

I know it's been brilliant . Thank you very much .

Ricky Blair 55:56

Thank you for having me on I really enjoyed it .

Rich 55:58

Absolutely a pleasure , absolutely .

Norma 55:59

We want to actually do one just on his platform . I would love to hear more about the platform you have .

Ricky Blair 56:06

Yeah , whenever with pleasure . But really , thank you so much . I really I didn't know where this conversation was going , but I really really enjoyed it . And we're done , aren't we ? Yes , your answer is magnificent , and I don't know , I've done a few of these , but this was like a really I don't know . You made me feel very . It was very . I can't explain it .

Norma 56:26

You were speaking amongst the like-minded spirited people here .

Rich 56:30

Look , it was great . Honestly , it means a lot to us . When you say that , I mean , as I said to you before , we're very relaxed . It's a very easy game .

Norma 56:39

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Rich 57:19

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