We All Need a Hype Squad

Are you tired of feeling like you’re hustling through life alone, or stuck in a circle that feels more like competition than community? In this episode, we’re ditching the outdated myth that there’s only room for one woman at the top and pulling back the curtain on how to curate your hype squad. Whether you’re navigating a high-pressure career, the chaos of kiddo schedules, or the messy middle of life, we’re talking about the key difference a good hype squad can make in your life and finding champions who don't just support your dreams; they actively help you build them. Grab a drink, settle in, and get ready for our chat about why your success is a team sport, and it’s time to start playing like it.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:12

Welcome to Bubbles and Breakdowns, a space designed for you to show up as your beautifully imperfect self where we dive into the good, the bad, and the bubbly. I'm Katrina. And I'm Ashley.

SPEAKER_01 0:24

And are you tired of feeling like you're hustling through life alone or stuck in a circle that feels more like competition than community? Well, in this episode, we're ditching the outdated myth that there's only room for one woman at the top and pulling back that curtain on how to curate your hype squad. Whether you're navigating a high-pressure career, the chaos of kiddo schedules, or the messy middle of life, we're talking about the key difference a good hype squad can make in your life and finding champions who don't just support your dreams, they actively help you build them. That hits hard. Grab a drink, settle in, and get ready for our chat about why your success is a team sport. And it's time to start playing like it.

SPEAKER_00 1:10

Hey, I love being in your outfield and in your infield. Like I feel you and I are definite champions of each other. Totally. I just have to learn how to throw better. And then we'll be a complete team. Complete team. You don't ever have to be the pitcher. It's okay. You can bunt all you want. If we're gonna keep going with sports analogies, which by the way, like that's not my jam. No same. But hey, I love that we brought it in. But I'll bring the snacks. I bring the snacks on the bench, the cut up oranges, all about it. So I don't know. I love this whole concept. And we've talked a little bit about Hype Squad before. I think in the women supporting women episode or Galantines. And I there's a big difference between people who are supportive, which have their place. Totally. And then people who are real, real champions. And I I think it's a good opportunity as people are listening, just like break it down of what does support look like? And then what's a champion? So like support is someone who listens to you. Like you want to call invent. You're having a bad day. You know, they'll support you. They'll be there. Lean on me. Lean on me. Done. Um, but then a champion is that deeper level. It's someone who's gonna mention your name in a room full of opportunities. It's someone who really believes your success is their success and does work to help you, frankly, become who you're supposed to be or your best self or to try new things. And that to me is just that's what a real hype squad is. Totally. And I think champions are hard to find. That's my thinking too. When I was saying, you know, support versus champion. I'm like, there's not a ton of champions. And I hope to be more of a champion for sure.

SPEAKER_01 2:43

And I think too, even like looking about this, you don't really seek out a champion either. I think it's a bond you build with someone where they start to trust you and want to see you grow. So it is one of these things where it's like, you got your girls, right? They're gonna support you, they're gonna show up at your thing, they're gonna do whatever. But those people, you're right, that will mention your name in a meeting that will look for jobs on you for you on LinkedIn. Or those are so hard. Yeah. And I think you that doesn't happen overnight. I think you have to cultivate and work on relationships. And I think that's a key out of this too. Yes, is you get what you give. So if you want to start cultivating other relationships to try to build and find your champion, that's a huge, huge part of this.

SPEAKER_00 3:34

Well, I what stuck out to me as you were talking was trust. Yes. Because no one's gonna put their name behind a name of a person they don't trust. Totally. And that is also not easy for human beings to trust one another. And I do think that if you're lacking feeling trusted, like that's maybe a point where we all need to kind of go introspectively and say, what is it that's maybe creating dissonance in my actions and my words that's causing kind of this mistrust or lack of trust? And so I love that you call that out because I think champions have to trust that and they have to trust the person they're standing behind. And if not, it just falls apart. Totally. So yeah, I I think that's a real key differentiator. And and I love this whole concept of like you kind of got this group of people, in our case, many of them are women who become, you know, maybe a little bit of our board of directors, and they all have maybe like a different role, or you know, there's different types of people and how they can serve as our hype squad. And so this was really cool. And so we'll talk through these. Um, number one is the truth teller. This is the person who tells us you've got spinach in your teeth.

SPEAKER_01 4:44

I just love this because I'm like just envisioning my own board of directors in my personal life. And I'm just like, yep, that's who you are, that's who you are, that's who you are. And I will inform them later of who they are, but this is like dead on.

SPEAKER_00 4:58

Dead on, right? The next one's the visionary who sees your potential before you've even started the draft. And I have one that stands out, and I've called her out on this um cast before is like the person who sees you better than you can see yourself. Totally. And I think visionaries are very rare, very rare.

SPEAKER_01 5:13

It's almost spiritual to me. It kind of is, and I think they kind of see through the day-to-day a little bit. They might be stuck in their own tumble and turmoil, but like they're really rooting for you.

SPEAKER_00 5:28

Yeah, and they want you to become what they think you can be. Yeah, sometimes more than we want it ourselves. Totally see that potential, like like you said. Yes. And that to me, honestly, the visionary is the person who gets me out of my scarcity thinking or limiting self-beliefs because they see me evolving and growing. Anyway, I love the visionary one. Same. The next one's the safe harbor. It's who you want to cry to when your life feels like a big old mess, right? So it's the person that you call and you're like, I just can't today. Let's let's do this. Let's do this. Can you help me? Talk me off the ledge, tell me I'm a good mom. You know, I always say, like, brush my hair and call me pretty because sometimes we just make me a snack. Yeah, make me a snack or a glass of wine or all of it, right? And then the last one, which I think this is really rare, Ash. It's the connector. It's these people who maybe have these tangled webs of a network and they're just like plugged in. Totally. But the thing is, they're not just plugged in and being selfish about it. No, they are the bridge that kind of you know brings people in and brings us in. And almost like a ladder. Yes. Right?

SPEAKER_01 6:37

Like they're helping you climb to get higher, to get to that next point while supporting your feet. Exactly. Propping you up. I feel like, okay, if you obviously this will probably be different in different groups, but if you were to elect your one of these as you.

SPEAKER_00 6:54

Oh, that's what I was thinking too. Like, which one am I? Yeah. I am definitely the truth teller mixed with a little visionary.

SPEAKER_01 7:02

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 7:03

I feel like what about you? I see that for you for sure.

SPEAKER_01 7:05

Um, I think I am the safe harbor. Oh, yes, with a little undercut visionary.

SPEAKER_00 7:15

Mm-hmm. Undercut. Tell me why you chose undercut.

SPEAKER_01 7:17

Because I feel like that's not as pronounced. Like I think I will tell you that. Yeah. Like this, you've got potential, all these things, but I'm more like cry for cry on me.

SPEAKER_00 7:26

Yeah. That's why you have the nickname Sensi, is that like bring all the emotions. Like, I will bring my emotional dumpster and unload it on your driveway any day. No, it's and honestly, reflecting back to you, I think you are the safe harbor. I I don't consider myself the safe harbor. I've obviously had a lot of moments with my close friends where there's tears. I welcome them when they happen, but I'm probably not the person that people look to to go to the most because I'm not always like the most tender and I don't always say the right thing. And so that's why I'm like, I'm more the truth teller. Like when you need a hard moment or like a check and you invite me to that, like I'm gonna help you to be honest with you.

SPEAKER_01 8:09

Yeah. Anyway, and these all are crucial roles because I think we as women, we need these sounding boards, we need these different types of people who are not gonna just tell us what we need to hear. Exactly. Yes, in a way, but lovingly, yes, but also like this is what you need to hear, and this is why it's different from what you're doing now. And I think that's such a big theme of like you're trying to get to something different, do something different. Right.

SPEAKER_00 8:39

You can't just keep going on the same and you need people who are gonna do that. Yes, and you're gonna like it's so funny because I have a friend who will say to me, like, you need to just start, you know, spending your money, like quit holding on to it and like go for a shop. Like, and then she'll be like, Hey, how about I just spend your money for you? You know, and and it's really hilarious. It's quite like a joke, but not a joke. And but I like it because it still challenges my limiting beliefs, it challenges my maybe scarcity mindset of saver, savor, saver. And I think that's what's cool about having this, you know, group of friends in this instance. But where I think there's a difference is I think we both have very trusted friend circles. And my gosh, aren't we so lucky? So lucky. First of all, and shout out, you know who you are, hot squad. Hi people, where are you at? Um, but there to me, and I know with your past life in corporate America, like there's such a huge difference.

SPEAKER_01 9:33

Like this my past life as a servant. No, just kidding.

SPEAKER_00 9:38

Your ancestral life. But no, like as corporate, you know, women, for example, like I have found it very difficult to navigate finding a board of directors in that world. And I think some of it is to do with competitiveness and or just like very different personalities. Um, but I'd love your reflections too, because I know for sure.

SPEAKER_01 10:01

And I think you know, I've shared this before. There is this mentor who I've worked with a very, very, very long time, and she's one of my dearest, closest friends. Or at least I consider that. Hopefully she does too. And hopefully you're listening. I think you know who you are. But we have been, she's she's seen me grow, right? She's seen what I'm capable of and what I can do. Right. But she is also so different than some of the other women I've worked with. So I think I'm totally with you. Corporate America is such an easy place to for the stereotypical cattiness to take place. Yes. And it shouldn't be because we're almost competing with men. We should bond together to try to show why we're better and show up for each other, and it's not the case. But I think going back to the beginning, like Doug talked about, this person's my champion, okay, that I'm referring to. And we had been through it all, right? Different projects, like figuring things out together, like our personalities are also very, very different. But that trust is where that comes in. But how do you break into that if there is this guardedness or cattiness? I don't know where to begin. But there are some people you know who to approach.

SPEAKER_00 11:32

Yeah, but I think it really to me, where I've seen this blossom. So I've had the same, I've been in the same um industry and role for around 11 years. And where I see this building in the people that I have trusted and who have been my champion is once you can have that psychological safety and you can become that safe harbor, or they are they're either like at first the truth teller or the safe harbor, or you can go to them and be vulnerable, you're like, I think I just kind of put my foot in my mouth. Can you tell me, did I? And how did that land? So, like seeking feedback and stuff. So I think that that is very different in a corporate environment because we're judged on our performance. And also a lot of people, I think, like to compartmentalize. And they they say, I'm only gonna give this amount of myself and this amount of energy. That frankly, a lot of working females in this case during the middle of life are pulled in a hundred different directions. So making room for your little, you know, pet project or conversation isn't always easy.

SPEAKER_01 12:30

No, or a lot of people won't admit to their failures or want to talk about them. Like I have always been a person, I think feedback is the biggest gift. Sometimes you gotta ask for it. Totally, that people can give me and I will say, How could I have done better? How can you know, help me help you? Like, I don't know what I don't know. Right. So if there's something that I need to change differently, look at differently, right? Like without those open conversations, yeah, you get stuck. You get stuck. And to your point, those vulnerable conversations is really where you start to build this trust, yes, this relationship that you're viewing the person as a person, but also as a trusted ally in this corporate environment to help each other, right?

SPEAKER_00 13:16

Yeah, I love it. So I have a question for you. Okay. So I think there's things that kind of can stand in the way. Yes. Like you just said, I'm I'm like the safe harbor and maybe a little bit of visionary. If you had to look at yourself and say, I have a barrier, yeah. What is that barrier that keeps you from being, you know, maybe a champion of certain people? Are we talking about corporate world? No, just life. Like just in general, like how you stand behind people and how you would want I we talked about trust. Maybe it's trust, maybe that's the barrier of like how to trust. Um but that would help you become a better supporter of women. That's a great question.

SPEAKER_01 13:59

I would say in my current circle, it is just lack of time to have these open conversations of what are their goals. Because we, you know, it's either I get together with some friends with their kids, that's not a real get together.

SPEAKER_00 14:15

First of all, you can't even focus. Your bike, your intention is bifurcated in so many directions. Totally. So, like you don't get to have those deep conversations. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:23

Or you do, and it's a a Tuesday night dinner where you really can only give two hours, and that that just skims the surface of like what's going on day to day.

SPEAKER_00 14:32

And sometimes it's like at the end of the night, like, are you good? Is work good?

SPEAKER_01 14:34

And like you're literally out the door. Yes. And you know, I've got this really good group of girlfriends. Um, we always joke before we go, we need to build an agenda because we are so like talking about so many things that we get a little distracted. They're like, oh, we didn't talk about the like the big elephant in the room that we were supposed to. And I really think that for me, that's it because we're all so busy. And it's not that we don't care or that I don't want to champion them, but I think it just lack of clarity of what they want, or we haven't talked about it.

SPEAKER_00 15:05

I love what you said, and what I heard as you were describing it was having intentionality. Yes. And that when you do have these brief moments or moments, period, to engage, like having some intentional things. And I often do that too, where I have a friend who I'm always interested about what's going on in a certain area of her life. And so I always will say, okay, I'm gonna see her on Sunday and I'm gonna make sure to ask what's going on with fill in the blank topic. Because if I don't prepare, then to your point, I've got kids snipping at my ankles, I've got dinner I gotta plan or whatever, and your brain isn't ready. So it's like you kind of have to be intentional. For sure. But I loved your whole concept of like inviting a conversation around their goals because I don't know if I outside of planning for the year around the end of the year, ever ask anybody that. And so I love that concept of being like, what's on your radar? You know, like what are you striving for right now? Or are you just like happy?

SPEAKER_01 16:00

And you know what? And I think that opens their conversations. Like this is all kind of cyclical, right? It opens them to being like, you know what? I haven't thought about that. Or, or it builds you up on their board of directors to be like, oh, this is my person who is my visionary right now. Yes, right? Like you can dial in, dial out, dial up, dial down, whatever to be there. And I think that's kind of a missing art in hype squadism. I love that we're coining this. Read the book. And exactly, it's coming out in May. Um quick basically in May. I said that's tomorrow. Um, no, but you know what I mean? I that I think is a lost art, is how not only if you want a hype squad, we all want a hype squad, but you gotta be part of someone else's. And that's huge. Be what you want to receive. Totally. Yeah, you give what you get, right? Yes. And that's important. So let me flip it to you. Yeah. Yeah. What do you think limits you from being champion?

SPEAKER_00 17:00

I'm gonna get real, like she doesn't care. No, yeah. No, nope, don't care. I am who I am, take it for what it's worth. Not at all. That didn't serve me well growing up. Like that was like yeah, my rebellion years. But I'm gonna get like a little uh psychological is that um I don't think my opinion matters as much. I know, I do.

SPEAKER_01 17:21

I I I think to myself, like I just like pick up my chin off the floor only because, and I'm not trying to cut off what you're saying. That's fine. When I ask you advice or we're having conversations, you are very thoughtful. You are, you know, you you bring up things I wouldn't have thought of in a different lens, and I think that's part of we were talking about your hype squad should like it tells you real too. I think that's important, right? This this truth tellerness or thread of it, it grounds almost when we've had our conversations, like my thinking.

SPEAKER_00 17:57

So that really shocks me. It's more so like if so, I think I create that space and I give I think I have confidence in what I can share my thinking. It's more so about actively turning into a champion. So, like if I were to put my Katrina stamp of approval on this person, does that carry weight? And I struggle believing that my stamp carries weight, that my endorsement matters. And so it is a little bit of a self-confidence issue. Um, I tend to be like, I tend to be just a little bit more reserved with being like, you gotta go check out this person because of blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Because I'm just like, so many people are doing that too. And then I'm like, why, why would, why would they want to hear that from me? I don't know if that makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 18:43

Yeah, I I see what you're saying.

SPEAKER_00 18:45

But it's an area I could break through, like a barrier for me.

SPEAKER_01 18:47

Well, I almost wonder holding back a little the way you put it is really interesting too, about this stamp of approval because you don't need that. Right. Maybe that's it. I'm putting too much weight on it, yeah, too much pressure. I think, like, you know, I've given so much advice. I'm sure one percent was taken. Yeah. And it it's just helping people process things differently and hearing things differently, I think is half the battle.

SPEAKER_00 19:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:14

What they're gonna do is in in their end, their life, they have to stand up for themselves. But as long as they know they've got the squad that is on their side to talk things out, I think that's half the battle.

SPEAKER_00 19:27

Right. And I think arguably in reflecting on this question too, I think both of us actually do a really good job playing our, you know, truth teller and or um safe harbor. Yeah, your sensey role. Because I think we already do some of this, you know, hyping, if you will. And we are true champions for people. So if you're out there though, and you are like, oh, I'm not really a champion, I'm just a supporter, I think this is like a great opportunity. And hopefully, like, I don't know, some of what we're talking about inspires you to be like, how can I turn my support into being a champion? And honestly, at the phases and different stages of our life, there may not be capacity. Totally. There also may not be channels available to really champion. But for those of you who are out there and you have channels and you have ways to help lift others up along your journey, I think that that is a powerful place of privilege, but also responsibility. Because I believe in, you know, lifting others lifts lifts us. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 20:27

And I think hearing that out too, and just thinking about maybe there's times you haven't felt that hype squad was there. Right. And how you're saying like surprising little twists where you feel someone's on your side. Like it reminds me of when your friend showed up to your dad's memorial.

SPEAKER_00 20:48

There's something about presence where nothing needs to be said. A friend from high school that we have not hung out with since those days.

SPEAKER_01 20:57

And I think it's too like there's part of like this is my squad, but it's part of like this is still in my circle. So the love is just like the presence of just people that care. Yes. And it could be a simple like on an Instagram post.

SPEAKER_00 21:14

It can. And that's so interesting that you say that because another person came up in my head that I've known since kindergarten or first grade. And every now and again we'll just exchange a note that says, like, I love seeing your life. I love seeing your children. I'm always thinking of you. Your podcast is the best one ever in the history of the world. It's off the chain. Um, but no, and I love those little winks. You know, I think about that, like I think what you're kind of getting at is like the idea of a peripher, uh peripheral uh hype squad where they're like, they're not in your day to day. They might not even be in your month or year. No, but they still think about you and they think highly of you. Yes. They want to see you thrive, they want to see you succeed. And those people and that energy, like it does make a difference. Absolutely. Big difference. And

SPEAKER_01 22:00

I think when you feel maybe your squad is failing you or you're going through a tough time, those are just kind of that outside, like, oh yeah. People root for me. I think if you need to hear that, you know?

SPEAKER_00 22:14

And it's there's also this thing when we're doubting ourselves. And I think this is when you need the hype squad is like, to your point, you're going through a tough time, or maybe you're going through like really lacking confidence, or like, you know, you're just down on yourself. I just had a shit day. Right. I just feel like crap. I feel like I'm not a good human or whatever. That hype squad's there for you in a way that you need them to be, but also just the beauty of what you just said, you know, that those those other people that that kind of show up in and out of your life and in just the criticality of being that person. So I don't know. It's like, how can each of us this week take a moment and give a little love? You know, if you are watching someone's reels or you're watching someone's social profiles, or you saw their new job on LinkedIn, don't just keep scrolling. No, take an opportunity and give them some love, you know.

SPEAKER_01 23:08

Okay. So I am guilty of this. Okay. But there are so I okay. You mean my memes, your quotes. Yeah. But I saw something on Instagram about like, why are you more likely to like or share strangers' content on Instagram?

SPEAKER_00 23:26

Yeah, it's so true.

SPEAKER_01 23:27

Then your best when then in your friend circle. Yeah, why is that? Isn't that strange?

SPEAKER_00 23:32

There's like a psychological thing that is is also tied to this around the fact that for some reason people see us one way. However, they built a relationship with us, like maybe you're Ashley from Catholic school, or maybe I'm, you know, the rebellious teenager from high school or whatever. They see you how you were at the moment in time they were friends with you, met you, whatever. That then when you're evolving or you're becoming, they there's dissonance and they're like, oh, that's not who I thought they were. And they begin to be like, oh, I don't like I this confusing. It's just like psychologically confusing. There's a friend that I've known since elementary who is a very popular news anchor, and I literally cheer for him all the time. And I'm sending him notes back and forth. And it's amazing when you actually like you validate people totally. And I could have been like, oh, so and so. He's just thinking he's such a big shot, but I never thought that. And I think there's also a little bit of like insecurity that comes out with people that when people are creating something new, they're like, oh, that's neat. But you know, oh, I couldn't do that, and oh, I'm just gonna keep moving. But I think that if you truly support people, you hit the share button.

SPEAKER_01 24:46

Totally. I know so too. And you know, it almost like undercuts what you're doing, right? But I think it comes back to like we talk about this sometimes about we did the thing.

SPEAKER_00 24:57

Yeah, we're out here, we're putting ourselves out here every every week.

SPEAKER_01 25:00

And not a lot of people can say that. You know, and I don't know, I just think that's something to think about too, is just everyone's got their own stuff going on, but we gotta be those silent squatters, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:13

You know, or like like, yeah, just be or vocal support. I well, I meant like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, but and this is just a call to action, is like you see people doing cool things, share the cool thing. Totally. There was another thing. Um, so my husband produces music, and he's a very talented musician, songwriter, uh, does doing great work, and he's created so many songs over the past year and a half. And every time he launches one, he's like, I would have thought more people would have shared it, or I would have thought I would have gotten a text from people. And he gets a couple people reaching out. And I'm not saying he's like feeling down about it. He's like, it's just so interesting. He'll say, Katrina, it's just so interesting to see who shows up for you. So my call to action is like, be the person that shows up. Totally. Because you have no idea what that validation means to people, especially creative people who are out there putting their stamp in the world. They're putting something unique that never existed. So, you know, in the world of AI, yes, AI can go and create a song and it's fantastic, but like this is a real person coming up with something that's in their soul, putting it out there for the world. And I think we owe it to our friends and people we know to be like, bravo, you know, even more so than the strangers. 100%. Not just the stranger. So I'm glad you brought that up. Yeah. Um, so let's give a shout out. I think Ash, you know, there's people who continue to, you know, hype us up. I'm wondering, kind of, I'll I'll share to start. But there's is there someone, as I'm I'm talking about mine, who has hyped us up this week that really stands out. And I'm gonna call it my friend. Um, I'll hold back the name, but I went to my son's soccer practice and I had on like these hot pink shorts and like a just like a black shirt or whatever. And I'm just hanging out, you know, I'm just like it's just kind of like a tired mom look, honestly. And later that night, she sends me a text and she's like, You looked so sexy in those hot pink shorts. And your legs are so toned. You have been working so hard. I'm proud of you. That last tagline of I'm proud of you. I'm I think it even said like, I'm so proud of you. She knows me 30 pounds ago. You know, she knows me not being able to run a half marathon. I've just completed 10 miles on my training schedule. I have been diligent, I have been consistent. And her saying those things to me, Ashley, was so extremely validating. And I felt so seen, but also like loved and congratulated. And I was like, it was just a text, just that little text. But I felt so much better about myself that people were noticing my hard work. And I need that. I do need that. I am not afraid to say that I need that. Absolutely. So thank you to my dear friend. It meant a lot. And I love that you think I'm sexy.

SPEAKER_01 28:02

Such a good one to end on.

SPEAKER_00 28:04

What about you? Anyone come up for you?

SPEAKER_01 28:07

Yeah, kind of the same thing. I have been uh working my booty off. Look great. Thank you. And it was, you know, same thing. A friend was just like, what?

SPEAKER_00 28:16

What happened?

SPEAKER_01 28:17

Where yeah, where did you go? Oh my god, I haven't seen you in three months, and this is what happens. And I was just like, thanks. It was it was great. And I think I am so I do not receive compliments.

SPEAKER_00 28:29

Yeah, you feel like awkward.

SPEAKER_01 28:30

Uh-huh. Like even talking about this now, I'm like, so I think I'm gonna do the the Ashley Switcheroo and compliment someone else. I love this because that made me feel amazing, but it goes back to the same person who has been struggling with some health issues and has just she is one of the strongest people I know. And I just wanted to say I'm so proud of her. And she is a kick-ass mom, a kick-ass corporate lady. And she just like slays.

SPEAKER_00 29:02

Yeah, and I think I know this person, and I think I saw some photos recently, and like, keep slaying, girl. You look the smile says it all. I think it's you know, so kudos, major snaps, you know who you are. Which we are proud of you. Yeah. So yeah, I think you guys get the essence. What a great way to end this episode with just giving some love to the world, man. People need it more than ever now. The world is heavy, absolutely. And when you think like just pay the compliment, it takes nothing but your time.

SPEAKER_01 29:31

Yes. Or invite the person, or just I don't know, build bridges, don't burn them.

SPEAKER_00 29:36

Yeah. So call to action guys this week, this weekend. Um, take a moment, give some love, say the thing, make people feel supported and championed. Totally. And don't forget, after every breakdown, don't forget the bubbles.

SPEAKER_01 29:50

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