Her Revival

Why New Habits Feel So Hard (It Has Nothing to Do With Willpower)

Laini Gibson

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Ever started a new habit — working out, tracking your food, getting better with money — and felt like you were constantly fighting yourself to stick with it? In this episode, I'm joined by my husband Alex to break down the actual brain science behind why new habits feel so uncomfortable at first, and why that has nothing to do with your discipline or willpower.

We talk about how your brain is literally wired to resist change, why your identity plays a bigger role than most people realize, and the simple mindset shift that makes everything feel more manageable — especially when you're just getting started.

If you've ever felt like something is wrong with you because you can't seem to stay consistent, this one is for you.

You'll walk away with:

  • Why your brain fights new habits (and how to work with it, not against it)
  • How identity and action are connected — and which one actually comes first
  • Why "it's not hard, it's just new" is the reframe that changes everything
  • How to start small, build confidence, and actually stick with it this time


    Chapters
    00:00
    Introduction to Her Revival Podcast
    00:57
    Understanding the Challenge of New Habits
    04:11
    The Brain's Resistance to Change
    09:48
    The Importance of Identity in Habit Formation
    15:00
    The Role of Mindset in Overcoming Challenges
    20:00
    Taking Action: The Key to Success
    25:08
    Reframing Hardship: It's Not Hard, It's Just New
SPEAKER_01

Welcome to Her Revival. I'm your host, Lainey. This show is for women who are done just going through the motions and are ready to actually feel good in their body, their mind, and their life. We talk about fitness, nutrition, mindset, habits, and all the real stuff in between with actual science and zero fluff. And I'm so glad you're here. Let's get into it. Hey guys. Okay, so real talk. I recorded an episode for this week and the audio completely screwed up. So I'm doing something a little different today. My husband, Alex, and I also do a podcast together called Physique Revival. And it's geared a little bit toward anyone more building their body and their life. And he's a professional bodybuilder. So we kind of go towards physique territory with those kind of things. Regardless, we recorded an episode recently, and I honestly just keep thinking about it. And I really want you guys to hear it. It's about why new habits feel so hard and why that actually has nothing to do with willpower or discipline or something being wrong with you. So once I understood the brain science behind it, it genuinely changed how I approach everything. So today you're getting both of us, Alex, my husband, and my business partner. And I think you're going to get a lot out of this. Let's get into it.

SPEAKER_00

Today we're talking about a quote that lives rent-free on our heads, and that is none other than it's not hard, it's just new. And so we want to talk about this in terms of fitness, but also connected to every other area of your life. Because you've probably, like a lot of people, including ourselves, you've probably tried to get consistent with a new habit. Maybe it's for your body, maybe it's for your finances, maybe it's for your business or whatever it is. And ultimately after a couple of days or a couple of weeks, you just fell off the horse. And so, why is that? Today in this episode, we're going to be going through kind of the some of the brain science of like why it feels so hard or so uncomfortable at first and why we just fail to stay consistent with it when we get started. So I'm going to pass over to Lainey, and Laney's going to kind of talk a little bit about the psychology aspect of it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, let's get right into the brain stuff. I always say like once you understand how your brain works, then you can work with it versus working against it when we don't really know what we're doing. So anytime that you're trying to break a bad habit, start a new habit, or especially if you're like, you don't feel motivated and you're like, I'm just waiting for this motivation to like kick in and then I want to do it, right? Like it feels so hard to do that thing when anything is new. And that makes sense when we understand kind of what's going on inside your inside your noggin, because your brain is actually not wired to help you grow or be successful or live this like amazing, abundant, successful life with like all these achievements and stuff. Like I wish I'd make everything easier, but our brains are wired to save energy, to survive and like keep us comfortable. Like that's all that's all that it cares about. So anything that is change, anything that is a little bit more effort, anything that is something that you have not done before, your brain doesn't know it's gonna happen or knows it's gonna maybe be a little bit more effort and it can't predict what's going to happen, the outcome of it. So therefore it is scary and it is unsafe. And your brain is going to try to put up some roadblocks essentially to stop you from going forward and doing that thing that it's gonna take extra effort and it doesn't know how it's gonna turn out. That does not mean that it's actually bad for you. It could actually be incredible for you, like learning how to track macros so you actually understand nutrition and how to fuel your body properly, or get consistent with exercise, or understand finances better and get more organized with it. Um, all of those things, like those would fall into the category. If it's not hard, it's just new. Because imagine if you're five or 10 years into doing it, it doesn't feel hard anymore. Like it was just hard at the beginning because it was new, but now you could basically do it in your sleep. But when you're first getting into those, your brain tries to tell you this is too much work, this is confusing, you know, I don't want to focus, let's just go do this instead. Like, oh, we'll put it off. Because it doesn't know that it's gonna be good for you. Like it could be amazing for you, everything that you could have been dreaming of, but your brain doesn't understand that because it's never been on that other side of that outcome before. So we're having to essentially go against our brain and remind it, like, hey, even though it's new, this is actually safe. Um, it the other aspect of this is it kind of goes against your current identity. So your brain is a very clear identity and you're unaware of this. This is like subconscious, but this identity of who you are and what you do and what you don't do. So if you don't currently do those things, or maybe you're trying to stop a habit and it knows that you currently do that, your brain is gonna go to these extreme lengths to prove you right and prove this identity right that you've been telling it this entire time. So anytime we're trying to do something different, it does feel hard at first because your brain is trying to catch up. But the thing, if we want to change that identity, if you want it to become easy and just become your brain knows that you naturally do this, identity follows action. It doesn't come first. So we have to just put that action in when it feels hard, when it's new. And your brain sees this repetition of you doing that thing. And number one realizes, okay, this is not unsafe. This is not scary. This is actually okay. So I guess we can let you keep doing it. And then it sees, oh, we are someone who actually tracks their macros consistently and it's not that challenging. So now that's part of your identity. So now it's going to be easier for your brain to allow you to do that. And then the final aspect of all of that is pretty much everything in life. And this is another just mindset thing that I've I don't, I don't know if it was Layla Hermozy or Alex Hermozy, maybe, that talked about this. I could be wrong, but they were just saying that like everything in life is a skill, like there's a collection of skills. So something feels hard and it's new, there's lots of little skills that you can build to be able to do it easier. So, like with tracking macros, so many little skills that go into that. So, as you are changing that identity, as you're showing your brain that it's not actually that scary or hard and it's actually a great outcome on the other side of it, you build all the little skills that make it easier. So, with all of those adding up after whatever a couple weeks or months of you doing it, maybe even a couple days, a couple times, kind of depends on the person and the thing, it is now easy for you to be able to consistently do that thing for all those reasons. We following so far?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, no, I think that's all awesome information. And what I like about what you just said is like now when you kind of explained it from like how the brain is programmed and how it's wired, right? Because I think like sometimes, especially if you've like tried a lot of times with your fitness or you've tried a lot to like change your life and get out of the rut that you might currently be in and you fail, you might be like kind of feel like feeling like you're banging your head against the wall and you might be asking yourself, like, what's wrong with me? With what you just said, though, there's nothing wrong with you. It's actually normal to feel that way. It's normal to feel like it's hard until you take that action, that through that action, your brain, you know, starts to change and create new neural pathways and you know makes new connections, and then you get more successful with it, and they're like, oh, it's not that hard. Uh, I also really do think that in a lot of ways, like I've talked about this before, but like I'm typically someone that is a little bit lower stressed. Like, I'm not a super high strung person. I'm pretty relaxed most of the time.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you balance me out.

SPEAKER_00

Yep. And one of the things that I've always said about stress, and I like to say it to clients, is like, especially if they're stressed out, I tell them, no, first and foremost, take a couple deep breaths. Like just focus on your breathing, right? That can change your state from uh sympathetic to parasympathetic, which that those are the two divisions of the nervous system, right? And that can be super powerful, that'll change your physiology. But then, second of all, is like look at like all the situations in your life that you've ever been stressed and ask yourself, did it was like was the worst, worst case scenario that you're playing on your head, did it ever happen? And the chances are that doesn't really ever happen, right? Like we like to make these worst case scenarios, and I think that's actually similar to how we build up like these things that we're trying to learn as like super, super hard. And we keep telling ourselves, wow, this is so hard. And guess what? Because we keep telling ourselves it's hard, it gets harder actually. It's like we're we're building up this like metaphorical mountain, and then it seems a lot harder and a lot steeper for us to climb. Yeah. But if we just can like anytime we're going through something, we're like, I don't know how to do this yet. I'm getting really frustrated, I'm getting really impatient, I'm I'm feeling like I suck. What if we just paused and said, hey, it's not hard, it's just new. And that's what I think the whole thing of like the whole concept of this podcast is about.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Like reframing that for myself.

SPEAKER_01

Absolutely. And I think something I even have to remind myself of this, and I'm a lot better at this now, once I kind of realized it, is I would get really hard on myself if I struggled with something or it didn't make sense or it was challenging, or struggling to do it. And I decided, I think I probably heard this somewhere else too, but that I wanted to try to adopt more of like a beginner's mindset. So if I go into something and it is challenging to not get down on myself, to not beat myself up over it and understand it's okay for it to be hard. Like I'm a beginner at this. You know, I'm learning how to do this, I'm learning the skills. It's okay for me to mess up and fail and fall and whatever, get confused. Cause like eventually I am gonna learn how, just like with anything else in life that you were a beginner at, you weren't great at it at the beginning. Maybe there's a few things that you were like super gifted at and right away, just like you got it. But most things in life, like you have to learn. And I think now, especially, like, we're so quick to judge ourselves, especially if we're anything less than like perfect at it. So being able to go into something of like, I'm just gonna, I'm gonna learn, I'm gonna try, I'm gonna grow, and I'm gonna trust myself that I can show up and do this and I'm going to eventually figure it out. And I think that's also where so much confidence comes from, because you just allow yourself to be bad at it. You allow yourself to try and grow and improve. And you've seen how far that you came from it of when it was really difficult and challenging, and you didn't get so hard on yourself that you gave up and you kept going. And the confidence comes from knowing that you did what you said you were gonna do, yeah, and that you can trust yourself to get through the heart and figure it out, which is so many things in life. Like most like like anything like worth having in life, like you have to put work into it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, you know? Yeah, I mean, absolutely. Show me your grit, show me your resilience, and I can almost guess like what your life looks like. If you are someone who's really resilient, you don't quit, you don't take no for an answer, right? You talk life in yourself versus you know saying all these negative things about yourself, you're gonna probably have a pretty damn good life. Yeah, and you're gonna live an abundant life. But if you're you know quitting on yourself very easily, like, yeah, that's probably not just like isolated to your fitness. That's probably ice, like you probably do that in every other area of your life, which is why like I think fitness is such a big, it's for me, it was a gateway drug to like personal development, really.

SPEAKER_01

Like that's what they call it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, exactly. But I want to kind of talk about this for a second because I was thinking about this uh kind of comparison when we were putting together this this show and we were creating kind of like what the episode would be about. And so I was really just thinking about it in like Spanish class. Like I didn't particularly love Spanish class uh back in school, but like I ended up taking like I think I think I started taking it like end of middle school, all throughout high school, and then I took like a year in college as well. So it took about six years in total of Spanish. And I remember when we started to get like more advanced, just kind of bat past like the basic vocab words, and we started to do conjugations and we started to do all this like advanced grammar. I remember like just feeling super overwhelmed, like this sucks, this is so hard, I can't do it. And I was in a setting like you know, you're taking a school class, it's not like you can just quit, right? You have to pass the class, you have to get the grade uh to be able to move on to the next class. So, like basically, I was in an environment where I was forced to learn it. I didn't have any decision. Like, honestly, if I was self-studying, I probably would have quit. I would have been like, oh, yep, this is where I stopped, right? But I was in a classroom setting, I had to pass and get the grade. So, you know, then from there, obviously I put in the hours to study it, to learn it. It was difficult at first, you know, a couple of weeks, a couple months went by. It actually got pretty easy. And so I think that's a perfect example of like, it wasn't actually just extremely hard. It wasn't above my head in terms of what I can comprehend. It was just that it was so new that I had to kind of just get like get my feet wet with it first, right? Before I was ready to dive in. And so, in the same way, I think your fitness journey is very similar, where it's like, honestly, a lot of the basic habits, you know, drinking water, getting enough sleep, all that stuff is not actually extremely hard. I would argue that fitness is actually pretty straightforward at the end of the day. But I think the difference here is that it's a lot easier to quit on your fitness journey because you don't have that external force telling you you have to do it. You're not getting graded, you know, it's not like you have to pass this class. And so when it comes to your fitness journey, you're an adult, right? You have to take that responsibility and make sure that you almost force yourself to do it. And that's where I think a lot of people, they get a couple weeks in, they're like, Yeah, this isn't for me. You know, I can't do it, and they just quit.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_00

But do you get how the environment is different in terms of like if you're forced to learn something, because it's literally like what you have to do to move on, you're gonna do it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So people don't have that same do or die perspective with their fitness, and that's why a lot of people quit, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. As a little aside with that though, like, and I I used to have that too, because when I was first trying to get consistent with like working out and eating healthy, it was really hard to get myself to do it. And especially now at this point, like just seeing how much value that there is with taking care of my body and kind of changing the approach and the mindset that I have with all of that, of like you owe it to yourself to take care of this one body that you are going to spend the entire rest of your life in. And that determines the quality of life that you have. Like, I have a relative whose body their health is not in a good spot right now. They're older and they can't even go watch, you know, like my younger cousins go at like their sporting events or go to different things. And because they didn't take care of their body, like nobody kind of told told them to as they were growing up, growing up in like small town Wisconsin, it's like different. But like had they really tried, even though it was hard to learn how to fuel their body properly and take care of their body and exercise, even when they didn't feel like it, they would have a different reality right now. And like I think about that for when I'm older. Um I I don't want to be someone who, because I didn't take care of my body, I'm not able to have a good quality of life for however, hopefully a long life that I have. You know, like I want to be able to do that. Or when we have kids, like I want to be able to run around with them and have energy and like go do all the things and not have to worry about that, or even with outside of just health and fitness, like with building businesses and things, like setting it up so not only, you know, we're able to afford things and take care of our family, but like truly love what we do and the impact that we have. And like all of that is hard at first, like all of that is hard. And there are still parts of it that are challenging to do. Like some days we don't want to go to the gym, some days we don't want to work, some days we don't want to track our food or eat healthy or whatever. But like we still choose to do it because we just care so much about the quality of life that we give ourselves. Because while we don't get to pick the hands that were dealt, like we get to choose how we how we lay that, how we play them, you know. You know, you you owe it to yourself to give yourself a good life. The life that you are the one that has to live, and the body that you're gonna live in, and the mind that you're gonna experience your life in. I get that things are hard to get consistent with. And there's sometimes that it does still feel challenging, the days where you have no motivation and you're just relying on the systems and things in place and that deeper why that you have. But something that I always come back to when I'm struggling to get myself to show up or follow through with something is the actions that I'm doing right now are determining what my life looks like tomorrow or a month from now, or a year from now, 10 years from now. And I want to do everything that I can to make sure that she has a good life, that version of me that's in that future. But then in the in the present, to make sure that I still have a good life now, and I'm not just like making myself miserable for that, is I think about like I I genuinely just want to grow and like it makes me feel happy knowing that I did something hard and I showed up for myself and I was able to get through that. Like I get so much like pleasure, I guess, from that versus when I skip out on things because it was hard. Like I feel really bad when my head fits hits the pill at the end of the day and I didn't do something because it was hard.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, no, that's a great point. I mean, you want to be able to go to bed each night knowing that you emptied the tank.

SPEAKER_01

You you drain showed up for yourself.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, you drain the battery, like you do yourself your best. Yeah, and and you want to make sure, like, you know, we we talk about this a lot, but it's like, yeah, you're gonna have to work hard, but like it's also about working smart. And I think one of the hardest parts about like with something that's quote unquote hard, like fitness or nutrition, I would say there's really two things that I think are the hardest. Uh, number one is getting started, right? So just not delaying getting started and just like putting your foot down in this in the sand, like being like, hey, like I gotta start today. Like, if I don't start today, when am I gonna start? You know, you're just gonna keep pushing it further and further down the line. I think getting started is is the one of the hardest parts. But then number two is like where to start, right? And I think the where to start, like focus less on where to start and just focus on getting started at first, right? Once you kind of get in action, then from there you can continue to kind of tweak things, make make adjustments. But like with tracking macros, for example, a lot of people are like, well, I have no idea like how to track macros, how do I go about it? You know, just start and then from there you can see like where you're you're confused, right? And then you can watch a YouTube video or if you have a coach or you can talk to your coach about it. It's like just getting started and like remembering to do it because like if you haven't tracked macros, like right now you're probably just eating a meal and then not tracking anything before, after, or during. So I think like setting reminders to get yourself into the habit consistently is super, super helpful. Because if you don't set reminders, you're probably gonna forget. Where maybe you log for two meals the day and then you forget the last two. And it's like at that point, like something like tracking macros or tracking data, if your data set's very incomplete, there's hardly any benefit of actually doing it in the first place.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you want to get it full. So basically, what you're saying is you don't need to have like this perfect plan and strategy and whatever. It's like you just gotta start, like make it super simple at first. So, like if you've never tracked your food ever, like don't even track macros at first. Like, just track what you're currently eating to get awareness. And then maybe we figure out what your calories and your protein are supposed to be. Okay, now we figure out how you can adjust your day of eating to get a little bit more structure to hit those targets, and then we add in the macros. So we're not going zero to a hundred when we do it. So you're able to build some of those skills and that confidence and those habits in yourself of just like you were saying, like put some reminders in your phone so you remember to track. We're not having any specific targets that we need to hit. Let's just first start at those couple of habits and then build up from there. I think that's a with certain things, if it feels like you're like, I don't know how I'm ever gonna get to that point, like just make it so small, meet yourself where you're at, and then be able to build up from there because that's gonna build confidence and you're proving to yourself that you can show up for yourself and do it. So now when you add that next little layer, you're like, oh, you know, I know I got it. Like, of course, it's like a little new, but I've done all these other things and I've made it to the other side of that totally fine, and it's easy now.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I'm a big fan of like learning as you go with things as well.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, which is so hard when you're like a perfectionist or control freak.

SPEAKER_00

I know. For you it is. I'm I know I'm the exact opposite, but it's like, you know, I'm the type of person when we're making these podcasts, I'm like, Laney, just freaking press record. We'll figure out what to say. And Laney's like, no, we need like we need a full outline of we're getting this.

SPEAKER_01

So we actually can make sure the plane lands.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and I'll not go. I'm just like, let's just press record.

SPEAKER_01

He goes, Spanish class, that's it. That's his only note going into it. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I mean, because like that's just how honestly, most things in my life that I've been successful with, I didn't overthink it. I just kind of jumped right in. Like, even bodybuilding. For example, like when I was getting into bodybuilding, I didn't even really like really think about doing a show. And then I saw an ad, and the ad convinced me within like 15 seconds to do a show, and I just signed up and full sent it. And that turned into me loving bodybuilding, doing show after show after show, getting my pro card in 2023. So it's like, I don't know, I like those challenges, and I don't think you need to know everything right away. You learn the best from actually experience most of the time, versus all this like theoretical, like if you're someone who's like new to the gym, like probably I would say the worst thing you can do is try to look up how to do bench press, how to like how to learn, like before you even go to the gym. There's probably some people out there that are like, yeah, I'm the type of person I'm gonna look up every major exercise, learn all the form and all stuff. Well, it's like you're probably gonna forget it once you actually get in the gym, anyways. So might as well get in the gym.

SPEAKER_01

So you mean like over plan without actually starting?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, like over planning without without ever starting, right? I think that's like one of the worst things you can do. I think you actually just kind of start and, like, yeah, you should have maybe have a base plan, but should be pretty flexible. And you know, you can always adjust based on how things go. And, you know, that's really what coaching is, right? Like we're creating plans, and of course, we're doing it to the best of our knowledge of all the clients' data, but like the plan's variable. Like it's

SPEAKER_01

Changes well then you have to adjust it to progress too.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, you have to adjust it to progress based on client, you know, feedback and and all those different things. But you know, if you're in a place right now where you're like, this is just so hard, reframe it and be like, it's not that hard, it's just new. And a year from now, six months from now, red everyone learns at a different pace. But like, if you're consistent for the next six months, by the end of this year, you're gonna look back and be like, it's actually not that hard. And like maybe it went from being like hard and I hate this, to all right, yeah, I I actually enjoy challenging myself. Like it's actually fun, and it's a lot easier for me to be able to show up and actually push myself because you've retrained your brain to actually crave, like, crave doing the uncomfortable things, right? And we have heard them the quote that's super cliche a million times, like, you know, growth is on the other side of your comfort zone, right? We've heard that, and like there is some truth to that. And basically what we're saying here is like the uncomfortability, like it's so hard, I can't do it, right? It it you can do it. You can do it. We've done it, we've all been there in different phases where we were kind of newer, we were learning, but uh, you know, it's just new and it's not gonna feel that way once you get going.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. And I think just to, I guess, to end is like the growth happens on the other side of your comfort zone. Because I know a lot of people they're like, but I just want to stay in my comfort zone. I don't ever want to go out of it. I don't want it to be hard or uncomfortable. I just want to like sit here in it. And if that's you, I feel like most people listening to this probably don't resonate with that fully, maybe certain areas, but like if that's you, I would just propose, like, so I've always had this thought process of like, I just want to keep growing and improving. Like, there's you have so much potential, like more than we even realize potential, like the dream life that we could dream up, like we could accomplish even more than that. But like what we believe that we can do now, and like that our perceived ceiling is gonna stop us from even dreaming that big. And while we're here on earth, like, why would you not want to just have give yourself the best possible life that you could and try to grow and become the most like incredible version of yourself that you're so proud of? And you can look back and you could say, damn, like I really did that. Like I just created this incredible life and I got way outside the comfort zone that I thought that I had, and I pushed myself and I challenged myself, and I just became that best version of me. Like, why would you? I don't know, like why would you not want the of course it's hard, but like that feels so much better than if you just stay in your comfort zone and you play it safe and you're just complacent and you're like, oh, that's you know, that's good enough. It's like you deserve to give yourself more than that. And if you don't, then I mean, I would invite you to go on a little, I don't know what you call like a self-love journey or something. Because if you don't think that you deserve that, like I promise you that you do.

SPEAKER_00

Well, yeah, I mean, it's easy for us because like we talk a lot about this, we're both like on the same page with it.

SPEAKER_01

It's either easier for us to be like, yeah, I don't get why people wouldn't, but like I get why they I get why they don't, but I'm telling you, like it changing your mindset, it takes work, but changing your mindset to believe that you actually deserve to give yourself more is the best thing you'll ever do for yourself.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean, unfortunately, just a lot of people are trapped in like the cheap dopamine cycles, right? Whether it's drugs, whether it's um addictions, whether it's food, shopping.

SPEAKER_01

Just what they grew up in and what they saw around them, and just not realizing that more was possible for them, too.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So I think social media is terrible for a lot of things, but I think it's good to show that like there's so much more possible than maybe what you see like in your immediate circle or city or something.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, no, I completely agree with that. But yeah, our main message here is like really just trying to speak life and you can do it, right? Working on your mindset is huge with like this whole success journey. And uh I think the mantra, you know, it's not hard, it's just new, is really powerful because it reframes your perspective on challenges.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And, you know, if it's not actually like it's not above you, right? Like I said, like it's not above you. You're capable of it. You just have to rise to that occasion and prioritize it, take little baby steps, learn as you go, and just enjoy the process, have fun with it. Like, stop trying to have this all or nothing mindset, this perfectionist, like, oh, I can't do anything right. Like, give yourself some grace. Give yourself some grace and uh just keep on leveling up in every area of your life. And like, this goes for fitness, this goes for your career, this goes for parenting, it goes for literally everything. And so, um, if there's one thing you can take away from this episode, take away from this episode that like you can do it, and it's not actually that hard, it's just new, and that newness will become a lot more effortless going forward.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and on that note, our cat is trying to eat our microphone. So that's all that we have for you guys.

SPEAKER_00

We'll see you guys in the next episode. Thanks for tuning in.

SPEAKER_01

We love you guys. Have a great rest of your day and go make it a good one. What do we say?

SPEAKER_00

Make everyday a PR, lift your standard, lift your standard and make everyday a PR.

SPEAKER_01

Bye guys. See ya.