Designing For Children: Sewing Patterns, Sustainability and Creativity with Becky from Pattern, Paper, Scissors

In this episode, Becky from Pattern, Paper, Scissors, shares her journey from fashion designer to founder of a creative sewing brand designing patterns for children and families. 

Becky also sells fabrics, kits and designs sewing labels in her online shop.

We talk about the realities of balancing motherhood and business, the power of creativity, her passion for sustainable fashion, and why making time for the things you love truly matters.

She also gives us an insight into her pattern designing work for Prima Magazine. 

Key Takeaways: 

• Becky has a background in fashion design and studied this at University
• She started her business Pattern Paper Scissors after she'd had her first child
• Becky talks about the importance of sustainable fashion and slow sewing
• She gives some tips for carving out sewing time as a busy parent/busy person
• Designing versatile, unisex, and practical kids' patterns is the heart of her business
• She balances multiple roles: pattern designer/editor, fabric seller, and business owner
• Becky talks about the emotional and educational value of handmade clothing for children

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Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Becky and Her Sewing Journey
02:09 Transitioning from Fashion Industry to Entrepreneurship
06:59 Sustainability in Fashion and Its Impact on Children
08:43 Designing and Drafting Skills in Fashion
10:47 Creating a Collection for Kids
13:06 The Importance of Comfort in Children's Clothing
19:15 The Value of Handmade Clothing
23:08 Overview of Pattern Paper Scissors
27:07 Exciting Future Plans
28:55 Fun This or That Game
31:21 Outro tip on Kofi

Transcript

Gemma Daly (00:12)
Becky, welcome to the Sewing Social Podcast. I'm so happy to have you here today.

Becky (00:17)
Gemma, thank you for having me!

Gemma Daly (00:19)
You're welcome. I was wondering if you could introduce yourself to the listeners.

Becky (00:24)
Sure, So I'm Becky. I run a company called Pattern Paper Scissors where I make sewing patterns and labels for kids. But I also sell a nice range of fabrics and stuff which is kind of for all the family and so everyone can get involved. But it's mainly for mums like me looking for a bit of sewing time and to get a bit of inspiration.

Gemma Daly (00:48)
Amazing! Now I do like to take it back to the beginning with all of my guests and find out where your sewing journey began.

Becky (00:57)
So I've been around the houses a little bit. basically from the start, I guess, I studied fashion design at university. I'd always had a real interest in ⁓ creating and sewing and customizing. And like a lot of people who get into sewing, I come from a background of seamstresses. So that kind of runs through my family. ⁓

Gemma Daly (01:00)
You

Becky (01:19)
My mum always used to make me clothes. I remember her making me things from cloth kits, which is actually really nice because I stock with cloth kits now. And so that's kind of come full circle, which is lovely. But yes, I went to do fashion design and I had a career as a fashion designer and in ready to wear and in the high street. So the more kind of recent

out of all of that sort of 20 years, the sort of 16 years were basically within the high once I had children, I moved on from that and started up Pattern Paper Scissors as a way to kind of like, it was something that I felt really strongly about, kind of started making my own clothes for my children and really got into that. And then just felt like those ideas that I had and those kind of things that I'd made for my children might

be something that other people might like to do, especially with the way that kind of fashion has gone and how fast it's become and kind of seeing kind of behind the scenes in the fashion industry and how, you know, how much is expected from people and how fast paced it is, kind of how sustainable it is, even things down to like the chemicals used on fabrics and garments and things like that for finishings and things like that.

kind of really made me think what I was doing once I'd had a child. yeah, Pattern Paper Scissors was kind of born from that really.

Gemma Daly (02:42)
Yeah, and I think it is quite a common thing to sort reframe your life, isn't it, when you have a child? you're about them and what's good for them. Do you...

Becky (02:52)
Gosh, absolutely.

I don't think I realised at the time that that can affect you so much. I thought I've become a mum and I haven't changed at all, but actually really can sort of change your perspective on things. Suddenly you've got this sort of delicate little bundle and for me, working in that industry and kind of working with things that are on their delicate skin.

kind of really made me think about how things were going and also just the idea you have a bit of time to be able to create something is such a nice thing to do isn't it? To have a hobby and to be able to sew is just a lovely way to spend your time and what better way than to make clothes for your children so you don't get the mum guilt.

Gemma Daly (03:37)
Absolutely, so a two in one there, satisfying your creativity and no mum guilt.

Becky (03:46)
Your

fingers crossed it's hard to shift isn't it? But yeah.

Gemma Daly (03:48)
I know

it really is. So talk us through how you set up the business. Cause obviously you had a child at the time and then setting up a business as well.

Becky (03:55)
Yes!

Yes, I decided to do that all at once! So yeah, when I left the industry and Edie was about one and I kind of worked on it for a while, I took a bit of time out and I kind of really tried to digest what I wanted to kind of do with things. I knew I felt strongly about doing something sewing, I knew I felt strongly about

kind of teaching people how to sew. I've always really enjoyed that side of things and kind of helping people. So that was something that I really wanted to I still wanted that element of design in my life. You know, I'm a designer, so I needed that creativity. So yeah, that was kind of what felt like a natural thing to do. The pieces that I'd made for my children, or just Edie at the time, but those things that I'd started making and creating felt like,

Gemma Daly (04:26)
you

Becky (04:45)
you know, people were saying how lovely they were. So it was like, actually I could do this for other people as well. And I did do a little bit of kind of small batch garments for people at the time when I first started, I would make several pieces up and I would kind of pick a different item every month and say, okay, I'm going to make this many things. I've got this much fabric and I would, yeah, do like small batch makes for people and they could kind of.

it as they wanted to. But yeah, felt like the sewing pattern was patterns and that sort of thing was the bit I really, really loved. So that's kind of what I pushed it into. as I was launching was kind of through COVID and I became pregnant with my second child. So I launched a year of it going and then I had to take a little step back again with my second child. yeah, it's been a little bit of a kind of

Gemma Daly (05:27)
You

Becky (05:36)
It's going up, but it's been a bit of a kind of hilly, rocky start to it. But yeah, it's been good.

Gemma Daly (05:42)
Yeah, but that makes it authentic, doesn't it? You know, you are a mum at the end of the day and you have to roll with what life throws at you,

Becky (05:51)
And I needed

something that would work around the kids as well, know, I can do around their school day. And, know, most of what I do, I can work from home or I can work in a studio and, you know, that works. That's great to kind of make that work alongside them and also to do something that they can really see me happy doing as well. You know, that's important, isn't it? You want your kids, I want my girls to grow up and

Gemma Daly (05:55)
Mm.

Becky (06:17)
and kind of say that love what I do and that's important and that you can do

Gemma Daly (06:23)
It's so important because, you know, we are modelling at the end of the want our kids to see. It is hard often, but I love that. I love that you're trying to do that for them.

Becky (06:34)
Yeah, absolutely. mean, I'm trying to explain my eldest is eight now. So trying to explain, you know, how big the fashion industry is and how fast fashion has become to someone is really tricky. You know, she's learning about sustainability and the planet and helping the planet at school. So to try and relate it well, you know, I think it's really tricky with with kind of mass production and all of the

the clothing that goes through it, it's really hard to see the actual reality of how much is going through. When you make a garment to see how you do it, you know, when people say something's handmade, you're like, everything is handmade. It's just all in a factory by hundreds of people. you know, to try and show her that, think, is something that I really wanted to do as well, and you know, and anyone else I can as well.

Gemma Daly (07:23)
Yeah, it's really important. you know, like you say, it's, so hard to get the scale of these things, isn't it? Until you see those pictures of the beaches in Africa covered in clothing. And why are they having to deal with our waste and things like that? And the shops are full of new things every other day. How is this, like you say, how is it sustainable? It's not, is it?

Becky (07:36)
Yeah.

Absolutely.

You know, and it wasn't when I was still in the industry, I left at a point where it was starting to get very, very fast. And you can feel that like everyone strung out. It was hard work and everyone, you know, don't get me wrong, no one wants it to be like that.

There'll be a lot of work, I imagine, going on at every company trying to make things better, but it's a huge global effort that's needed. And there are things that are happening, you know, with the EU putting this ban on getting rid of clothing and not using it. There's a big ban coming. I think it starts in July, June or July this year. You are not allowed to dispose of clothing now, so companies have to work out.

better way to deal with it. Either they resell it, they donate it, something. But it was literally just going to waste, like you say. It's literally going to be dumped in a place like, and you see those photographs and there is just mountains of the stuff, isn't there? Yeah.

Gemma Daly (08:43)
There is,

but like you say, hopefully we can focus on those little positive changes because something needs to happen. So let's go back to sort of your designing and your sewing patterns. So you've obviously been doing that for several years now. Did you learn your drafting skills when you were in the fashion industry?

Becky (08:50)
Yeah.

Yes, so I learnt at university. know all courses are quite different, but we did a of quite a where you would learn everything from knew how to sew, but I learnt the industry kind of standards of sewing and how to do everything properly and the same with pattern cutting. So we would, every project or module that we did, we would learn something, but we would take it right through from kind of initial design to pattern cutting it to garment.

kind of construction and tech and kind of sewing it together. So you would kind get a real insight into how each different element of creating a garment comes together. You know, with the idea that enough, you want to be a designer, but when you're working with everyone out of that team, that you need to understand how that

pattern cutter is going to draft it how it becomes 2D to 3D and you need to understand how the seamstress is going to take that and make that collar and you know all of those so yeah I always really enjoyed it there's quite a kind of mathematical side to pattern cutting, a bit and ready to wear and love that as well so it was something that's really nice to get my teeth into and I still do a lot of pattern cutting although I can't necessarily produce a new pattern

very quickly for paper pattern scissors. They're quite kind of long winded projects and they should be, you know, they need time to get right. You need to make sure the fit is correct. You need to test them. You need to grade them, et cetera, et cetera. I do do monthly patterns for magazines. So that kind of keeps that nice side of creating that 2D to 3D side going quite a

Gemma Daly (10:40)
So the first pattern that you released for pattern paper scissors then, tell us about that and how many that you have now.

Becky (10:47)
Gosh, so I I think it's 17 now. I started with a little collection. What I wanted to do was bring out a little collection so that you could create an outfit. And I started, when Edie was small, I started with baby wear. So I've done a few pieces that kind of cover naught to two years old. And then I did a few pieces that also covered kind of two to.

to 10. And that's not to say that I think 10 year olds would necessarily want to wear my garments. But you know, a lot of our children do grow up quite quickly. So when you look at kid sizing, you almost have to think of it like a size rather than an age. And my eight year old is now wearing nine to 10s. So it was more it was more that decision. But yeah, I wanted to kind of offer out

Gemma Daly (11:26)
Yeah.

Becky (11:35)
sort of collection rather than just one or two pieces. So I worked on kind of a few at the time they really were, you know, kind of everyday pieces. They were things that I wanted the kids to be able to wear a lot and what I'd seen lot of was, you know, ⁓ party dresses or special occasion things or things that were traditionally with quite a lot of detail and I wanted to make it quite simple and quite

easy for someone to pick up, you know, a simple sweatshirt that you think, you know, once you get that right, you're really happy. It didn't take you long to sew. It doesn't take a lot of fabric, the child is really happy with it because it's in the colour that they want and it's got an emblem on it or a motif on it or something like that. I just wanted to kind of create that joy for the child as well as the person making it and kind of make sure that it was comfortable, that it was easy to run around in, you know, those kind of things that are important.

So yeah, so it was a little collection based around that really.

Gemma Daly (12:32)
Absolutely, and that sounds ideal because kids need to be comfy at the end of the day, don't they?

Becky (12:37)
Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, another thing that was important to me as well was trying to offer a collection that could be used that was unisex. So I don't want the pattern just to be used for one child. I'd like you to be able to use it again and again. So to be able to offer something unisex so that you could perhaps fulfil, you know, a few sweatshirts for your grandchildren and please everyone and that kind of thing. That was important too.

Gemma Daly (12:48)
Mm.

Absolutely and you've done a little collection for like the whole family as well haven't you? Yeah.

Becky (13:11)
Yeah, that's the pyjamas. just love

the idea of those Christmas pyjamas and people getting, you know, that lovely kind of Christmas Eve presents. So yeah, a few years ago I'd worked on that and the kids one had always gone down really well and I was like, right, I'm going to do a mom's and dad's as well. And actually I sell those separately and they sell quite a lot through various kind of wholesalers. ⁓ People seem to like those patterns, but I just love it when someone sends me a photograph and they're all in the same outfit.

Gemma Daly (13:15)
You

It's really sweet. So you mentioned that, you know, one of the aims of your sewing patterns and your business really was like gearing towards mums and encouraging them to just start the project. Now we all know as a mom, time can be very limited. Why do you think it is important for to find time for themselves and make something?

Becky (13:53)
Yes.

such an interesting point, isn't it? Because I think as mums, we can quite often put ourselves last. I think we are constantly kind of at the knees to our children, especially when they're young. And I think it can be quite hard to kind of pull away from that. But I just think there's something with sewing or a crafty hobby, something that you can do with your hands that takes you a

away a little bit and I think if you can find you know an hour here or there or you can get an afternoon in one off you know one weekend something like that just to have that sort of step back again and you return to you and you just get a bit of time a bit of calm you know and I just think that's a wonderful thing and it doesn't need you don't need to leave the house necessarily you don't need to go out you can just you know find a little space

Hopefully someone might be able to kind of provide a few snacks for them. I can't guarantee they won't ask for snacks. But you know, just to get that little bit of time away, I think is so important. You know, and it's something I preach and then I sometimes fail myself. it is, you know, we all need it, don't we? We all need a bit of time to ourselves. And that's kind of what I love about sewing is that it's a little bit of concentration time. It's almost a little bit like.


Becky (15:16)
you know like certain types of exercise like swimming it's concentrating because you need to know what you're doing but once you've got the hang of mind wanders as well you know you can you kind of have a chance to think as well it's just kind of methodical and quite slow and that's lovely I think that's a really nice aspect of I kind of try to encourage people get into

Gemma Daly (15:35)
It really is.

a lot of people talk about how mindful it is. So yes, you're focusing on something, but it is giving you that little bit of headspace and clarity, isn't it? While keeping your hands busy.

Becky (15:51)
I love it for that. think it's, you know, it's a lovely hobby.

Gemma Daly (15:54)
Me too. And do you think you've got any particular little tips for not just mums, but anybody wanting to carve out that sewing time for themselves?

Becky (16:05)
Yeah, I am quite a big fan of planning out an afternoon. I know I want to achieve something, then I will, know, rather than rely on somebody else to sort it all out and say, right, you're having the kids, da da. What I do find is quite helpful is to plan on a second activity pack.

have a few snacks on a big tray. We can get snacks on there, we can get colouring books on there, we can get a film set up, something like that, where you know that they'll kind of have a few little elements of activity. And don't get me wrong, we know they're going to interrupt, right? But if you can, you know, a little briefing, we can have a chat about it. I think it's very good for kids to also understand that you need a bit of time as well. It's a bit like trying to...

show them, that point when we all have to try and teach them that they have to kind of start clearing up after themselves as well, that you can't do everything. It's that similar thing, you know, it's good for them to understand that as well. So I think it's encouragement on that side of things. I do find with my eldest, she kind of starts things, start things going in her head as well. And she's thinking, what else can I do?

know, so she'll have a little project on the go quite often and it kind of inspires her and stuff. So I think that does help. I mean, if you can get someone to take them out to the park for the afternoon, then that's, that's perfect. But you know, sometimes we just have to work with what we've got, don't we?

Gemma Daly (17:28)
That's right! ⁓ I love that idea though!

Becky (17:31)
Yeah, yeah, I think it helps. mean, the other thing is after bedtime, you know, I think you can end up going quite late, can't you, once you've got into something. But yeah, that little bit of peace is worth it, in my opinion. But I think it depends on the type of person you are as well. know, either you're a person that can do something for an hour and keep coming back to it, which is great, which I quite like doing, or you're a person that needs, you know, a proper...

chunk of time to kind of get into it again and that can be partly if you know if you're just starting out and you're a bit new to sewing then you need a bit of time but yeah you've kind of got to think how do I you know how does how do things work for me best and go with that.

Gemma Daly (19:15)
So a few people potentially think that making clothes for kids can be a waste of time because they just grow out of it anyway. What would be your counter argument to that?

Becky (19:25)
Yeah.

this is such a tricky one, isn't it? Because I, you know, people have said that to me and I quite often get that if I'm like, if I've got a fair on or something and I can just hear people talking in the background. I'd just be like, hello. But yeah, it does come up. I think, you know, the joy you get from sewing and making something is lovely. So the joy you get from them passing that onto a loved one is really precious.

And to me, you know, if you're going to make the effort to make something, if you're going to find a fabric that you love and you're going to make it into something beautiful, then what's not to say that you shouldn't pass that on to the next child and the next child? There is that. think that that's a really nice thing to do. And let's face it, when we look at the kind of mass production options and the way that fabrics are constructed these days, things don't last that long anyway. So they don't always get passed down and they don't.

necessarily get used again and again and again. But what I like the idea of is people passing things down, people passing things along, giving them to friends. I love that aspect. There's nothing more lovely than getting something handmade as a gift. If a friend's had a baby, why not make them something? That is just gorgeous, isn't it? When you receive something like that that someone's really put the effort into. And those are the things that I think.

are important and kind of what we get from making that. Yes, they grow out of them, but there are ways to make things last longer. You know, there are ways to, you know, increase the leg length and do some turn ups, increase the arm length, that sort of there is ways around that. And it's just kind of thinking out the box. You know, there's ways of reusing the pattern even. I'm a big fan of cutting out the paper pattern in the biggest size, but folding back.

a smaller size and then you can use it again. You don't have to trace it all off again. know, things like that. Just make, there's little ways of making things last longer and making it work for you. But yeah, I'll always challenge someone that doesn't think it's worth it.

Gemma Daly (21:29)
Yeah, no, I'm not one of them, by the way. I just wanted to get your point of view on that one.

Becky (21:37)
It's a conversation I have quite a lot and all I can say is what I believe and what I think is worth doing, and each to your own. Maybe you don't want to make things for anyone else, maybe you just want to make yourself gorgeous dresses and that's also fine.

Gemma Daly (21:52)
it is fine,

I totally get it because I've made my son various items and I still will. I know that he's going to grow out of them, but seeing him in them still gives me the great sense of satisfaction and joy, so I'll still do that. you know, like you say, there's really good tips there about how you can make things last longer, because that's kind of what we all want to do, isn't it?

Becky (22:19)
Yeah.

Gemma Daly (22:19)
So whether

you double fold that hem and then let it down as they grow, know, there's ways around things.

Becky (22:26)
Yeah, it definitely is. And I think, you know what, when you do make something for them, whether they're the kind of child that would love to help you pick the colour and the print or whether it's a surprise and they're, you know, they're not at that point, their face when you pass that over is just brilliant. That's priceless. You know, you've made that and they find that amazing. They're like, you actually made this. I can't believe that you've done that. How amazing is that?

Gemma Daly (22:49)
you

Becky (22:53)
I just think that's lovely.

Gemma Daly (22:54)
I know, if you could bottle that, that'd be nice wouldn't it? So tell us a little bit more about pattern, paper scissors then and the things that you stock in the shop.

Becky (22:56)
Make a fortune.

so we've got, I say we, it's just me. I have a lovely lady that helps me a little bit with social media and things and my website and kind of these sort of technical things she used to have, but generally it's just me. So I have a range of baby patterns and I have a range of kids patterns and that's kind of where I started. I do those as PDF, but I also do them as paper because I think for a lot of

The paper options are a lot more practical. It's funny, it's completely different customers, but I like to be able to offer that, although they are, they're a costly way to do things, but I do like to be able to offer that. I recently started creating sewing labels, which aren't just for children, they're for everyone, but I love the idea of a little quirky label, so I've really got into that. And it's another nice way to design something for me. It's another little.

design job that I love. But I also stock a range of ⁓ fabrics. So they are complementary to children's wear, but they are for the whole family. You can see some of them in the background. They're not necessarily children's and baby wear things. They're just stuff that I feel are gorgeous and beautiful and fun, know, nicely treated. Something that would just make someone smile basically.

And yeah, so I have a range of that and that's kind of something that I a lot of business with. I do a lot of wholesale work with my patterns, but a lot more retail work with my fabrics and my labels and so forth.

Gemma Daly (24:37)
Lovely. And of course, I'm going to put all the details of your shop and where people can find you down in the show notes. But as if running pattern paper scissors wasn't enough, you did also mention that you are the pattern editor for a magazine and that's Prima magazine. What does your role there entail and how do you juggle all of that?

Becky (24:43)
Huh.

Yes, yes, yes, yes.

I do love a challenge.

But do you know what? This role came up a few years ago. I think I've been doing it for about four years and I love it. It's so cool. They are so lovely to work with. And yes, I'm a contributing pattern editor, which means basically I have freelance for them, but I create, I design and then create a pattern and then the whole pattern pack every month for them. So it's mostly women's wear. We might do a children's wear like once a year.

I'd love to do more obviously but you know the women's wear ones are kind of what everyone wants and yeah so I create a pattern once a month it needs to be beginner friendly it's for anyone who's kind of thinking of taking up sewing but I know there's a lot of people on there who've sewn them for years I will

I'll kind of come up with a design. We have a chat once a season and kind of come up with sort of six designs. Again, that'd be what we use for that season. And then I'll take that design and I'll create a pattern for it. And we'll get that graded. But I also get the chance to source the fabrics, which I love doing. I love doing that. They have...

Gemma Daly (26:04)
He he.

Becky (26:06)
like we'll make up three samples and I'll source the fabrics, find something that kind of goes together and looks great for a magazine spread. And we'll get those samples made up. And I work with great seamstresses and we make those up together. Well, they make them up, they're amazing. But I just kind of, give them all the instructions and things. And I work with an illustrator, he helps create.

the gorgeous illustrations that go in. don't know if anyone's ever seen the Prima patterns, they're all still hand done and they're beautiful. He's so talented. But we've worked through those together. So I'll do the the instructions, the lay plans, all of those elements that you get in a pattern. But it has a turnaround of a month and it's really fast. you know, I saying earlier, you spend a long time putting a pattern together. There's a lot of elements and we we do that every month. So yes, it's quite fast paced.

I love it ⁓ and the people as I say it is brilliant. yeah, it's something that I juggle but I love.

Gemma Daly (27:02)
And are there any exciting plans coming up for the business? Anything you can tell us about?

Becky (27:08)
So I'm showing at Stitch Festival for the first time in a few weeks which I'm super excited about so if anyone's coming I'd love to meet everyone. I am nervous about it because I've wanted to do it since I started the business, it's been on my wish list but yeah really excited as well. gonna be a full-on few days I think.

Gemma Daly (27:24)
You

Becky (27:26)
really excited about seeing all the people that I've met through these festivals and things. You know, there's so many amazing businesses there, so many small businesses, you know, women run, they're all women, I love it. So that'll be nice, although I do get carried away chatting and I should go and get back on the stand. yeah, so that'll be really nice. I'm really excited about that. then when I do, I also do a bit of teaching, so I squeeze that in as well. ⁓ And I've got my ladies on a

Gemma Daly (27:36)
Mmm.

Becky (27:55)
on a Wednesday for a sewing club and I teach beginners on a Monday and I love that as well. That's really nice. That's really rewarding seeing people kind of, you know, get something from fabric and make it into a 3D outfit, you know, garment. they, you know, that's a really rewarding little role, little job I've got as well that I love. yeah, that's kind of me at the moment. I'm, you know, I want to develop some new labels. I've got a few things I'd love to do with the patterns and

kind of see where that goes. But yeah, it's kind of like a let's see how Stitch Festival goes and then let's plan out the rest of the year. And you know what it's like when you've got a young family, you're kind of like, you're going to try and do this bit, sometimes it changes, sometimes it moves around. But yeah, that's the plan for the next few months at least.

Gemma Daly (28:41)
very very busy by the sounds of things.

Becky (28:44)
I'm not very good at not doing anything. husband says why can't you watch a program and just watch it? You always do. I can't bear it, but yeah, I'm not very good at just sitting there.

Gemma Daly (28:55)
Bless you. So to round up the interview, Becky, I like to do a game of this or that if that's okay with you. Yeah. So first of all, knits or wovens?

Becky (29:02)
yeah, yeah, yeah, I'd

I like knits. Very forgiving.

Gemma Daly (29:10)
Yep, good point.

Bold prints or classic plains?

Becky (29:15)
bold prints.

Gemma Daly (29:16)
An organised stash or creative chaos.

Becky (29:20)
I hate to say it, yeah, creative chaos. I won't show you the rest of this room.

Gemma Daly (29:26)
That's the organised stash right there.

Yeah.

Spring, summer or autumn, winter?

Becky (29:33)
that's a really hard one. I love layering, autumn, winter.

Gemma Daly (29:34)
you

Nice. Tea or coffee?

Becky (29:41)
coffee.

Gemma Daly (29:42)
A meal out or a takeaway.

Becky (29:44)
Ooh, meal out.

Gemma Daly (29:46)
Designing or making?

Becky (29:48)
that is really tricky. I love both, but I do have a lot of unfinished projects. Maybe I'm designed more than finishing projects. Yeah.

Gemma Daly (29:57)
Scissors or a rotary cutter?

Becky (30:00)
days is.

Gemma Daly (30:01)
A girl after my own heart there. Pre-wash fabric or live dangerously.

Becky (30:02)
Yeah

Pre-wash, pre-wash. I'm not very good at a lot of these things. Yeah, I cut a few corners, but definitely pre-wash.

Gemma Daly (30:08)
Always.

And follow instructions to the letter or improvise.

Becky (30:20)
this is really hard. So I improvise, although I do write a lot of instructions for a living. but I, yeah, I prefer the pictures. do. ⁓ Yeah, I like looking at the pictures and then improvising.

Gemma Daly (30:21)
You

It's

like you say, when you know where you can cut a corner, cut the corner, but yeah, this is it. So where can people find you, Becky?

Becky (30:40)
Yeah, once you get something right, yeah.

let's see. So I'm on Instagram. It's patternpaperses with an underscore in between each word. I'm also on Facebook. I have dabbled in TikTok, but I can't say I'm very present. or on the website is probably the easiest way to contact me if you need me.

Gemma Daly (31:04)
Perfect, and like I say, I'll link everything in the show notes, but you've been an amazing guest, so thank you for joining me on the Sewing Social Podcast.

Becky (31:13)
Thank you ever so much for having me. I've loved it, Gemma. Thanks. You too. You too. Thanks.

Gemma Daly (31:17)
You're welcome. You take care.

Bye.