The Audemars Piguet x Swatch Royal Pop Collab Madness

Is the AP x Swatch collab a genius move or a weird flex? We dive into Nike's "Social Experiment" and the pink Travis Scott J1.

The Twelve Hub Sneaker Pod is back after a two-week hiatus to dissect the most chaotic week in sneaker culture. Hugh and Drew break down the controversial Audemars Piguet x Swatch collaboration—is a mechanical movement in a plastic pocket watch actually a collectible, or just a distraction for the elite? We also tackle the viral rumors surrounding Costco’s $69 Air Force 1s and why "fake news" is infiltrating the sneaker marketplace.

The conversation shifts to Nike’s potential "social experiment" with the upcoming Pink Travis Scott Jordan 1 Lows and what the massive stock numbers mean for the future of resale. From Met Gala hits and misses to a deep dive into 90s Hip-Hop nostalgia (including a breakdown of Michael Jackson's cinematic impact), this episode bridges the gap between modern hype and the foundational culture of streetwear.

Time Stamps:

00:00 The Twelve Hub Return: We’re Refreshed
03:02 AP x Swatch: Genius Collab or Weird Flex?
05:35 Mock-ups vs. Reality: The Royal Oak Pocket Watch
08:15 Is Rolex Still the Only "Attainable" Luxury?
10:45 The Jordan 3 "Bin 23" Deep Dive
14:55 Jordan 1 Low "Bred": Better Than the High?
17:50 Sneaker Politics & The Reebok Comeback
21:05 EXPOSED: The Costco Air Force 1 "Fake News"
24:35 Are "Rep" Buyers Part of the Culture?
28:50 Nike’s Social Experiment: The Pink Travis Scott
33:15 Podcasting, Therapy, and "Pushing Buttons"
42:05 Getting Recognized: The Power of the Sneaker Community
45:10 Met Gala 2026: NBA Stars & Red Carpet Fits
51:00 Michael Jackson: The G.O.A.T. of Music Videos
59:30 Resale Market Shift: The "Laced Up" Business Model
01:15:30 90s Nostalgia: From BBD to Stone Temple Pilots
01:40:00 Kerwin Frost & The Future of Novelty Sneakers

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Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:02

What up, what up, what up? Check one too. Alright. Counter sent on three. One, two, three. Welcome. Pause. It's uh the uh 12 hub sneaker pod. Got Drew back. What's up? He's been gone.

SPEAKER_01 0:21

We've been gone for two weeks. I know. Took a little break. It's alright. That's why I take breaks.

SPEAKER_03 0:27

I feel rejuvenated, refreshed. How about yourself?

SPEAKER_01 0:32

Uh yeah. I I feel completely refreshed. I feel like a new man. You sound like a dead man. I feel like a dead man. You're not wrong.

SPEAKER_03 0:46

You want to tell people what's up with your life right now? Nah.

SPEAKER_01 0:50

Nah, no one wants to hear that trash. My life's a fucking train wreck right now. I just got a lot of stress.

SPEAKER_03 0:55

Yeah, you're you're so unfortunate. Anyway. I am. Oh, you don't skip a beat, man. I am I am the big, big uh whatever. I was talking about you today with Sean. Oh no. That's funny. No, it's okay. We'll talk about it later. But I did, I did actually, so when we were there was so many good things to talk about last week between perfect pair having fake pairs and um all the news about swatch watches and Net Gala Costco's potentially selling Air Force Ones. There's a whole bunch of stuff, the whole Travis Scott thing. And um yeah, I shot a whole podcast by myself, and uh everybody out there, I had mentioned to Drew that it's tough to talk to yourself for almost an hour and 10 minutes. And as I watched it back, and I was like, Yeah, put this out, I guess, but it's just didn't hit well with me. And luckily, we all uh Akari hits us up today. He's like, Yeah, let's do a pod tonight. And Drew and I showed up, and apparently it's just us two here tonight, so it's all good, but uh yeah, I'm not putting that other pod out so we could talk about this stuff. So I want to hear Drew's opinion on some of the good stuff that's out there, but yeah, my week and months have been all right. This past two weeks have been kind of heck hectic as far as work and extracurricular stuff as the summer starts to heat up, it's gonna be warmer in the next few days. How's it in Texas right now?

SPEAKER_01 2:30

Uh it's been super rainy, super stormy. Um, and the weather's actually when it's not raining, it's been cooler out. So I'll take it, man. But it's starting to heat up next week. I think we'll be in the high 90s, low hundreds. Okay, yeah, we're gonna go warm up here too.

SPEAKER_03 2:49

Uh let's get into it. Where do we start? So the oldest news last week. I don't know if we want to start off there, but let's just no, actually.

SPEAKER_00 2:58

I don't know. Run down your list, man.

SPEAKER_03 2:59

I got it open. I do have a list. All right, AP. I mean they just borrowed APs. The AP and and Swatch. What let me pull it up. What's your thoughts?

SPEAKER_01 3:08

So I I love watches. I have a lot of watches, big watch. I don't have any APs, but I I do love watches. I love the idea of this. I think it's a cool collection collector piece type thing. It's an interesting collab. I just it's not something I would ever wear. It's it's a pocket watch or like a let you know, it's I just you hang it next to your laboooboo on your purse.

SPEAKER_03 3:36

Is it for girls? Like now it's now that I've seen it, it's just the whole perception of it is just like I'm gonna camp out. I see motherfuckers are camping outside, bro. Yeah, they're outside, they're outside.

SPEAKER_01 3:47

Oh, and I I think the only thing that's AP is the movement, right? Or like there's some sort of move which would be actually really nice, but I could be wrong about that. I haven't fact-checked myself on this, but from my brief perusing, I don't know how much AP is in the swatch because it's it looks very, very I mean, uh, swatches are cool. I just don't wear like I have two old swatches, I never wear them. It's just I feel like that that kind of look, it feels nostalgic. It's just not nostalgia I want to wear.

SPEAKER_03 4:25

Yeah, it's like so like for me, swatch watches was the big ass box. I don't know if you ever had this when you were a kid. I got the big ass box that had all the exchangeable bezels, and it had all the colors. I had like 30 different colors of bezels and bands, and you changed them out and you put on the I don't know if I had a digital or one with a movement, I don't remember, but I I I I wore that watch till it fell apart. Um, and and that thing was like what like 40-50 bucks back in the day, right? So you're you're talking, and that was pretty expensive for kid for you know like a novelty. Uh, but I love that thing. My sister had one, I had one. And looking at this, it's it's it's it fits in that similar category because I was like the official one looks cheap to me. And I'm just like, I'm not gonna spend$300 for this shit. When Omega and Swatch did an actual watch that's still available, I believe. You go on their website and buy the Omega Swatch for like$300 something dollars, and that looks nice to me. I'd wear that. Uh, but this thing, man, it's not um, it's not hitting. And I, you know, I it's funny when I before all this happened, when I did I when I shot the pod by myself on Sunday, I was very optimistic. I was like, I saw the the the the mock-ups that they did, and I was like, oh shit, I thought that was the real thing. And I'm like, oh, they come in these cool colors and they look like royal oaks and all that shit. I'm like, I'm like, cool. I'm gonna I'm gonna go, I would buy one two, three thousand dollars aftermarket, to be honest with you. If I if if people were selling it look it looks good enough once I watch a few reviews, and if they say all the movement and the quality is good, I'll buy one. Shit, you get away with that. What's the my man on the video said, you know, these hoes don't know the difference.

SPEAKER_01 6:05

Well, so I I did just look it up. It will have the mechanical uh system 51 movement. Okay, so it'll be interesting because it's an auto, you know, it's an automatic now, which is kind of cool in a swatch, but again, I just I would I would buy it as a collectible, like just to say, you know, hey, I don't know if they would ever do this again, but I just it's not like like we're it's not something I'm clipping on my belt. I mean, to me, it's just a weird flex.

SPEAKER_03 6:35

Yeah, the um my man sent me this um this meme. They already have memes about this up. Oh shit, he already sent me another one. I can't show you this. Oh man, hold on. I gotta how do I open this? Welcome to the party. He sent me that that's so funny. That is hilarious. Let me see what we got. How do you share a screen? Shout out to Show me. That's my guy. Look at this. That's no, now that's a version of the mock-up, but that's hilarious. And then they had the meaning. See, I like the mock-up. Oh, yeah. That's what motivated me. That was the watch.

SPEAKER_01 7:18

That that would be cool. But uh I just uh I don't like the hang thing.

SPEAKER_03 7:24

It's just weird. Yo, that's that's the thumbnail right there, bro. Thank you, show me for giving me the thumbnail. The thumbnail has arrived. So another thing that I found out the uh basically owner of Otomar Patek or Petik is black. I had no fucking clue. Do you know that?

SPEAKER_01 7:42

I actually didn't know that. I don't A AP is uh kind of one of those watches that's priced out of the realm of possibility, so I don't really look into them too much. If I'm going that route that much money, there's other watches I would shoot for. Yeah, AP is not high on my list of watches that I desire. I'm sure I'll get a ton of hate in the comments.

SPEAKER_03 8:08

I think it's it's it's not it's not one of those attainable things. So like a Rolex is attainable, you know, and and there's enough nice Rolexes out there where you can be like, yeah, I like this.

SPEAKER_01 8:17

I'm not a Rolex guy either. I'd rather have like an IWC, which to me is just that's that's my grill. This guy it's black, Oliver.

SPEAKER_03 8:31

He's 60 years old, he looks good for 60.

SPEAKER_01 8:34

Yeah, I mean, I didn't realize the brand was not, I thought the brand was older.

SPEAKER_03 8:38

It is older. Now he is the fourth generation. Okay, and this is this is the funny meme. You're on a phone camping outside, so you can really get the release of the AP Royal Oak. I'm on an open claw getting agents to manufacture the wristbands in China. We are not the same.

SPEAKER_01 8:59

Yeah, I'm not camping out for that shit.

SPEAKER_03 9:01

I am not camping out, I'm not even looking out for it. Like, and I don't even want it anymore, to be honest with you. So shout out to everybody who gets it though. Put on and put it next to you, La Boo-Boo on your on your waistband.

SPEAKER_01 9:16

Yeah, they just released the info on where he can buy it and stuff, or potentially buy it.

SPEAKER_03 9:21

Yeah. Another thing that I wanted to mention about that, anybody with a real AP, don't worry about it. The price of your shit ain't ever going down. The reason why these guys are getting into this marketplace is because when when that economy goes sour and rich people start dumping their assets and their money into like real shit like food and water, you're they're not buying APs anymore. Your broke ass is gonna be sitting here with an AP while they got their APs, the real ones that are worth gonna be worth nothing pretty much, because it ain't nobody gonna be buying them. Um so don't worry about it. You you're still gonna be worth$300,000,$400,000 in your own head. And when the economy bounces back, if it ever does, you will be able to um, you know, Massai. You'll be able to shout out to that guy. Uh my man, um fucking Moses. Moses, you know, scammer selling watches and shit. Uh yeah, he the the the marketplace for those things is always gonna be there as long as there's a rich person on earth that likes buying random shit. Uh the bin threes. What do you think?

SPEAKER_01 10:30

I love the the toe hit or the um tongue hit. Uh uh, it reminds me a lot of the um shit, the SBs. That colorway with the wax seal on the toe on the tongue. What are the SBs? You love them, you wear them all the time.

SPEAKER_03 10:48

I wore them when we went to the uh conference.

SPEAKER_01 10:51

Yeah. Um the I can't think of the name. They remind me of that. Even the special box. Uh, kind of the one. I it's been a long time. Riot, the riot, right, riots. Riots. Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 11:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:04

So they remind me very much of the Riot collab. Actually, it looks almost identical to the design language. If you put some green in there.

SPEAKER_03 11:14

There's green on that? I don't think that's green.

SPEAKER_01 11:17

I said if you put some green on it.

SPEAKER_03 11:20

No, was there green on the riots? There's no green on this.

SPEAKER_01 11:24

I know. I said if you put green on the threes, it would remind me of the riots. Because there is a little it's a t maybe green isn't, it's like a dark. I think it looks dark green, but I'm sure I'll be corrected. Yeah, the panel, the side panel, the side panel, the toe, it's got a it's got a green hue to it. Hue. Pun intended.

SPEAKER_03 11:54

Yeah, I mean it's uh yeah. You know what? Hey people. Put them on the screen. Uh not me fool. Drew here. See, Drew? He was right. You would have me on the screen. Drew is absolutely correct.

SPEAKER_01 12:15

That is I'll take the victory lap after the pot. Yeah, what are you gonna do?

SPEAKER_03 12:19

That that was a good one.

SPEAKER_01 12:20

But I think it so I think it looks uh very similar to that, and I I'm curious about it. Is because it's not a collab.

SPEAKER_03 12:27

2300 pairs only. I didn't know what bin meant actually until um recently. It's black something. Something about the black blacks.

SPEAKER_01 12:40

I didn't know that either.

SPEAKER_03 12:42

Yeah, so it's uh uh what's his name? That guy, the other Kari, sneaker barnacle. What's his name?

SPEAKER_01 12:50

The one that you're his voice. Why do I call him?

SPEAKER_03 12:54

I call him sneaker barnacle. That's funny. I don't know where that came from. I'm gonna keep calling him that though. Sneaker barnacle. They all come with bags too.

SPEAKER_01 13:06

Yeah, I don't know. The price point on these 355 bucks.

SPEAKER_03 13:10

It's not bad. People paying that much for um those um metallic black fives, and and you know, uh, what was the other three that was like I'm a manier threes went for this much at one point? The remote's like no, not retailing retail. No, I'm talking about oh yeah, retail.

SPEAKER_01 13:33

Yeah, these are 355 retail. No, I'm not talking resale right now. You think it'll be high resale?

SPEAKER_03 13:40

Maybe because it's not that many.

SPEAKER_01 13:42

I think yeah, I think it'll be inflated at first, and then when the the shine dulls, I I think it'll it'll drop down. I mean, look at the uh the the blue tiles. I mean, resales in the toilet, and they only released 4400 pairs today on Nike. It may have been leading up to yeah, they dropped today.

SPEAKER_03 14:01

Fuck, I missed that dog. I have not paying attention to one drop.

SPEAKER_01 14:05

I'm just telling you what I think there was nah. There was literally like 58 pairs in a size 12. You ain't hitting.

SPEAKER_03 14:14

Maybe I've hit hey, I hit a 12 and a half and a Kobe Grinch. So that that there's literally like 12 and a half Kobe Grinches in the size 12 and a half out there. So I I you know you get lucky sometimes, but um now to your point, I don't yeah, I I I missed that drop, so I will go aftermarket. Um, since we're talking about that, uh, you pick up anything?

SPEAKER_01 14:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 14:40

What'd you get?

SPEAKER_01 14:42

I don't know. Everyone, hold on. I picked up the bands.

SPEAKER_03 14:50

Oh, yeah. Mine's came in. I got two pairs.

SPEAKER_01 14:53

I actually think this is super nice, shoe. It is nice. The other quality is really nice. Yeah. So I'm a fan. I know no one likes Jordan 1 Lowe's, but I don't care.

SPEAKER_03 15:02

Fuck people. So I really I found I finally found out why that story about why the other ones ended up out the outlet. The originals, the the high top. You know why?

SPEAKER_01 15:12

What no?

SPEAKER_03 15:14

They put the wrong date on the shoe. They put 84 instead of 85. 84 was the actual date that it was banned. He got banned from wearing it, but it's all subjective. What the fuck?

SPEAKER_00 15:30

And the ice cream joints.

SPEAKER_03 15:31

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:32

Ice creams.

SPEAKER_03 15:35

I don't know. I rock a lot of the colorway is the blue one's better.

SPEAKER_01 15:39

I think it's a blue one, right? I I like the suede. No, it wasn't blue, it was red. And it was leather. I preferred the suede. Suede's nice. I I love ice cream stuff. I wear a lot of frickin' ice cream, so I'm a fan. That's why I got it. It's this nostalgic for me. I love the old ice cream releases, pretty dope. Soul's kind of cool.

SPEAKER_03 16:04

Yeah, it looks like a cone. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:07

So it is a weird colorway, I have to say. Like, this is not an easy shoe to fit for a white guy. You could wear it. For this white guy.

SPEAKER_03 16:17

You have a lot of clothes that match that.

SPEAKER_01 16:19

It'll be alright. I don't know. We'll see. We'll see if I step out in those.

SPEAKER_03 16:27

Is that it? That's all you got.

SPEAKER_01 16:30

Um. This guy's been shopping. Nah, it's been a couple weeks.

SPEAKER_03 16:37

Oh, I want those. I didn't know those even came out. Man, I've been missing, I've been s I've been lagging. I don't like that. These are like the originals better.

SPEAKER_01 16:45

I like this better. I think this colorway in person looks better than the brown or sorry, the wolf gray and orange wolf gray. These are nice. We had that discussion. I know. I didn't forget. I feel like the quality is a little bit nicer on these too. But yeah, yeah, yeah. That's all I'm saying. Well, I got those sneaker politics reebox that you know when they get wet, they change. Those are cool. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:11

That's the one I was just poking at you on the on the thing.

SPEAKER_01 17:14

I was like, I don't wear dirty shoes. Quality on those is crazy. That leather is so buttery. That's a nice shoe. I'm surprised they sat. I'll be honest. I guess sneaker politics has zero kind of hype. I mean it's a rebound. Yeah, but their Adidas release sat too. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 17:38

So I heard uh I was listening to our friends over at the Sneak Dips podcast, and they were in New Orleans and checked out the sneaker politics, I guess the original location, and it's just jumping in there. I heard, and that's what they said. It's like a party all day, and they have all the shit at to go check that out.

SPEAKER_01 17:57

Yeah, the there's one in Dallas that I go to, and it's super small. And it's cool. I mean, it's nice, but it's a really small shop. I was I was shocked when I went in there. I was like, wow, this is small. Pause. Yeah. So but the guys are always cool. You can hang out in there. They got and they're always super friendly. Chop it up.

SPEAKER_03 18:21

Uh so you return those react uh not um the um I didn't return the mines.

SPEAKER_01 18:29

I yeah, I just didn't show them, but I don't think they're all that comfortable. Maybe it's just the anatomy of my foot.

SPEAKER_03 18:36

Go outside and walk in them a couple times and you'll start liking it. I mean, maybe I'm I'm different. I like I like my feet being massaged, my feet are being massaged as we speak. So uh I like that feeling, you know. Yeah, I don't like people touching my feet. I got a massager under my desk, so it's uh I don't like massagers touching my feet.

SPEAKER_01 18:56

I'm just I don't like it.

SPEAKER_03 18:57

I don't like I don't like getting no, I don't like people touching me, period. I told like my wife gets massages all the time, and I'm a little uneasy. I'm like, is it a man or a woman? She always gets the woman, obviously. But it's just like I don't want no dude touching me. And then like women, like depends on how they look, and uh, but then what if you get like a boner or something while you're on the table? Like, imagine if you got like a really hot masseuse, you know, and then she's like literally rubbing your shit and thighs, like right up like the fuck you gonna do? You can't do nothing.

SPEAKER_01 19:29

I don't know. Ask her for you know, rub and tug. I'll tell you what, Catherine gets massages a lot.

SPEAKER_03 19:39

Uh that's like women are just super comfortable with teach touching their ass and everything.

SPEAKER_01 19:43

I'm like as soon as I'm like, yo, you're getting a massage, like her clothes just automatically like peel off. She's like naked and ready to go. Like, massage is is her thing. It's crazy how much she's gonna be.

SPEAKER_03 19:56

We did a couple's massage on one of our vacations, and where was it? It was I don't remember where, maybe it was in Arizona. I think it was Arizona. It was cool. The ladies were super nice. There were like two older ladies, and they were really nice to me because I knew they knew her was uncomfortable. And you know, my wife was there, she enjoyed the whole experience. I got up, I was like, Yeah, I felt all right, but like whatever. So we years later, um, I ended up buying a massage chair because I heard you get what's it called? Uh zero gravity massage chairs, it costs a pretty penny, but bro, she does not leave that chair. I I like she like when she goes in it, she'll be in there for like three hours. She'll get up and her body's like a wet noodle. She's like this, like uh, you know, like well, no, one of them things at the outside the uh used car lot. Yeah, I know what you're talking about. You flying around, yeah. I don't know. But the the massages ain't my thing. I can't, I don't it's like people just touching me, period. It's like my thing with the like people wearing, like like buying used shoes or whatever. Can't do it. Um, I did see something, uh, and this here uh Costco selling Air Force Ones for$69. So uh I'm gonna tell you something straight up and down. This is this is fake news. Uh people this was spread around the internet and people like grappled onto it like it was real. And now I saw it with a little bit of skepticism because I didn't know exactly because I've never seen a Nike product in Costco. Uh that wasn't a collab or an official thing, but it made it might have made sense in my brain coming off of the uh Kirkland collab, right?

SPEAKER_04 21:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 21:49

But then pricing the AF one at sixty nine dollars in this economy, eighty nine, ninety bucks, ninety, maybe a hundred bucks, but aren't they like one thirty now? Retail?

SPEAKER_01 22:01

Gosh, I I don't buy them, so I have no clue what retail is on an Air Force one. We can look it up though.

SPEAKER_03 22:08

I'm looking at one. Yeah. We're looking at 115. They're 125 in Foot Locker. Oh, that's a special one.

unknown 22:19

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 22:19

Yeah, it's like 115 retail.$90. Oh, it's for boys, little boy size. So these things back in like 2013, 14, I think they were like 80 bucks, right? Um, but you know, now 115, 69, that's like 50% off almost. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:40

So it's outlet price.

SPEAKER_03 22:42

Yeah. For a worn pair at the outlet. Uh on the wall, you know, the hash wall. Why do they call it the hash wall? It's so hatched. I don't know. I actually don't know. I wish Kari was here so he could tell us. We hash in prices. We hash in prices. Yeah, but he uh he used to work at the Nike, so he knows he would know. Um, anywho, yeah, so that's a fake news thing. So shout out to all the people who got fooled. Well, the people that fooled y'all, you got trolled and fooled, and look at us now. Um this is funny. When we uh when again when I did the solo podcast. Hold on.

SPEAKER_01 23:18

Oh, you got something literally it says it's referred to as the hash wall because it serves as the final clearance or hash area for damage return. I guess it's a store term.

SPEAKER_03 23:31

Okay. I've sold shoes off of there on goat with no lid for top dollar.

SPEAKER_01 23:41

Really?

SPEAKER_02 23:42

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 23:44

I didn't sell on goat. Uh I guess if you you label it as damaged or used.

SPEAKER_03 23:50

I put it put I put no lid, dead stock, and they didn't have to take pic. I think I did that take pictures. I don't know. I sold them. They they passed them and I sold them for like pretty much near. I mean, you go you have to obviously go a little bit lower than the resale price because it doesn't have a lid on the box. But I sold Aunt Pearl, uh KD, I can't remember which one it was, 12s or something, whatever. And then um Biotech Air Max 90s that I found on the hash wall. And they had a dirty sole too. So I took some shoe cleaner, some rejuvenator, and cleaned the sole. Uh, because somebody looked like they tried them on. Uh, so I um, you know, Professor Scula, this guy? Yes, you know. Yes. I've really like he's he went, I guess, viral. That right, but you know, within the community, he's had a couple of posts recently do well. Uh, this one caught my eye where he was talking about the fake shoes and stuff. And I'm uh I'm actually kind of on his side. This guy's like a he's not like I can't I've been categorizing all of us as sneaker people. I don't like saying sneaker head. Um I've said that in many videos, but this time uh I think I he he he like kind of validated that point here. But um what was he what was he saying? Oh yeah, he was just talking about oh go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 25:06

I was gonna say, but think about it like what like base head, you remember base head back in the day, your free base or you know, crackhead. I mean, it has a negative connotation, so sneakerhead has kind of that negative connotation to it. So I'm I'm with you on that.

SPEAKER_03 25:21

Yeah, yeah, true. But I also not necessarily that it's negative, I just think it sounds stupid. It's just sounds stupid to me. I'm like, oh, there's no sneaker on my fucker fucking head. There's no sneakers in my head. I I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 25:37

Well, did you use the term hip hop head? I mean, did you ever that's different?

SPEAKER_03 25:41

That's music, it's in your head. A sneaker, I mean and and and like metaphorically speaking, it's in your head. But sneaker head?

SPEAKER_01 25:51

Yeah, hey, yeah. What are you gonna say? Sneaker feet? I heard sneaker feet.

SPEAKER_03 25:56

Sneaker freaker. That that's a magazine, right? Sneaker heads.

SPEAKER_01 25:59

Sneaker aficionado.

SPEAKER_03 26:01

I just say sneaker enthusiasts. I like that. Collector, sneaker person. Um these guy, I just sneaker head, whatever. But the uh yeah, he was talking about fake people who wear fake sneakers. Are they s really sneaker heads or sneaker enthusiasts? And um I don't I I'm not gonna play the video because it's long, but I kind of feel like and this is purely nostalgia uh for me. And that's the reason why a lot of people got in, you know. You see, you think you think it's not gonna be a good thing. Stop going there, stop it, stop it, no, no, stop, stop, let it go. All right, let me take him off the screen. Um, not gonna no, we'll not we won't talk about that. But you know, with the where sneaker culture came from was this like the sense of nostalgia for an air for the Air Force One, right? That's what some people rooted back to, and then um, you know, people getting into like different silhouettes of the Air Force One and then jumping into the basketball sneakers with Jordans, and then from there to where we are today, and now it's more I think sneaker sneaker people are more into obviously new and innovative styles, but more so harking back to retros and familiar silhouettes that have good stories behind them, right? Can you agree with that? Um that's how I got into it. Like I tried to get all the sneakers that I couldn't get, then I got into the stuff that had uh that that kind of like was hype in the moment, and then I got into um really where I'm sitting now is like trying to finish up my collection of nostalgic pieces, but also just trying to get like cooler, like retro shoes all the time, and maybe something that's innovative technology-wise, like mind 02s and 01s and shit. Uh but his point here, the professor schooler, was that you know, are you really a sneaker person if you buy reps or fake shoes? I say no. Well, not no. I say um asterisk yes, because you do enjoy the culture, but you're not a person who is the essence of the culture, meaning you're you you want you like it, you like the aesthetics, you like being down and having the the shoe, but from a cultural standpoint point, you're not willing to sit out a drop and and and miss it, right? You want everything. You you go buy the fake Travis Scott so you can match the guy. While a guy like me would go get the Mocha Travis, I mean a Mocha Jordan 1 high instead of the Travis Scott high, right? And or the low because they released a low eventually. And I'm content with that because it gives me the the look I want, and it's a real shoe that I got for uh the right price. Um, yeah, it doesn't have Travis Scott's branding on it, but to to if you really care about sneakers or like sneakers, you don't care, right? What say you on that?

SPEAKER_01 29:22

So I I tend to agree with you. To me, it's you know, but there's nuance to it. Like, why are you chasing, you know, what are you buying fake sneakers? Are you buying a fake Air Force One? Because then I'm thinking that's weird. Or if you're only buying hype reps, you know, obviously you just want to flex. So my biggest issue with reps is when people buy them and try and sell them as real. I mean, that's my biggest issue. And to me, you kind of nailed it with the sneaker collector kind of mentality is the amount of work you put in to finding sneakers, the research you do, the whole process. It's not just buying sneakers, it's the process to get to the the purchase, right? You're doing research, you're you're following things, you're actually kind of re and it's not just Nike, right? Like you're looking at all different kinds of trends and sneakers and fits. And so to me, that's that's the culture of this. So if if you're just buying reps to slap on feet because you want the attention, you're to me, you're that's not a sneaker collector, a sneaker head, or sneaker person, or whatever you want to call it. You're just it's just a trend, which you gave me shit for with sheltos, right? It's just a trend and it'll go away. And it did.

SPEAKER_03 30:46

Uh oh man, it's fun. I love having you back on the padre. You're fun. You were like the most this is what I was telling we was talking about you. Uh, Sean and I were having our morning coffee talk as I was walking my puppy, and I was talking about like all the podcasting and stuff and our decent our disagreements. And I'm like, between I was like, between you and Drew, you guys are the most sensitive motherfuckers I ever seen. Not even it doesn't matter that you not to say you were wrong or that your your viewpoint is shit or whatever, is that y'all take it too much too seriously.

SPEAKER_01 31:21

Uh you know what you know what the reason is, and Sean can probably relate. I say something No, when you've grown up, no, no, when you've grown up in abusive situations, when people kind of come at you, you take it a certain way, at least for me.

SPEAKER_03 31:38

So defensive, right?

SPEAKER_01 31:40

And and there's a level of sensitivity there that it it kind of triggers some some bad shit. So yes, you either get defensive, aggressive, upset. Yeah, I get it. So there is a component to that. It's not a good excuse, but it's a it's a there is a reason.

SPEAKER_03 31:57

Yeah, but I feel like uh you're fine. Um, but also I've become I'm um I'm getting to a therapy session here, but I've I'm the type that I don't care about criticism or you know uh getting my point having you know somebody disproving my point. Because back in back when I was younger, like my early 20s and stuff, I was the guy who'd argue, I would be dead wrong, and I'd argue that point till till death do us part. And and people used to be like, this guy's a fucking asshole, you can't talk to him. And then you, you know, like it it harkens back to the way Sean and I debate, like it would I told him, like the Jordan thing, the politics stuff. Like, I get your viewpoint, and I understand not necessarily that you're stubborn, but you have your own mentality and way of thinking. But there's a there's a right and there's a wrong, and there's history, and you know, whatever.

SPEAKER_01 32:56

If I could say to you that a Shelter Adita, wait a minute, you push fucking buttons non-stop. Like you you won't you'll get to a calm place and then you'll just fucking turn the heat up instantly. It's like instapot, like you just push a button and it's like boiling. Like honestly, you you know how to trigger people because you you literally get to a calm place and you'll be like, all right, yeah, I can see your point. And then all of a sudden, out of the blue, like the next day, you're bringing the same issue back up with the same energy that it that wasn't that that led up to getting to the resolution. So it's like the beginning, you just hit reset and start all over again.

SPEAKER_03 33:41

I don't know what you're talking about, but I'm out here, you know. If I if I have a point to make, I'll make my point. I can stand by my shit. I love you know, I love life, I love my friends and my family. But um, there's certain things that I just don't take as I've grown up as an into adulthood. And yeah, I can't I I don't think I hold grudges, I don't I don't let things slide. You fuck me over once, so I'll be like, all right, cool. If I could something that's acceptable in my own head as being as being acceptable as far as a um a slight, I'll take it. Do it to me again, do whatever. And then you know, I put people in a certain place. Like Sean and I were talking about like certain friends that I put in, but it's we we life is too short to hold on to like baggage, you know, forgiving people. If you wrong me a few times, why do I why do I have to keep forgiving you? What the fuck's the point? Let's get the fuck out of the way. I'm I'm done with y'all. You know what I mean? Like, look, come on. If I fuck, if if I did some fucked up shit to you a bunch of times, right? Like maybe let's just say I talk shit on your wife and do all this stuff and I keep disrespecting your your viewpoint on shelter Adidas or whatever. Like, and and then it gets to the point where you're just like, I'm sick, stop it, stop it, I hate you. And we, you know, like we a point where something grinds your gears or somebody grinds your gears or something, to either way you say, No, I don't think it's worth having this person around me, right? Do you feel that way sometimes about people?

SPEAKER_01 35:07

Uh I'm a bad person to ask for this. Uh as I've gotten older, I I'm I've gotten better at that, but I have a real hard time of giving up on people because I always want to see the best in them. So it's it's hard for me to walk away from people. Now, if you disrespect my wife or my family, that's a problem for me. So if you constantly are disrespectful to the people around me, yeah, uh that that's I don't I don't have any tolerance for that. Me, on the other hand, I can withstand a bit more of the abuse.

SPEAKER_03 35:35

Oh man, I better take them tweets down I made about your wife and your kid recently. Uh I wouldn't do that anymore. You guys are cute. I saw your little podcast of Travis. Yeah, he was he was a good guest. Great to make that kid feel uncomfortable. Yeah, and he looked a little uncomfortable in those clips. He always looks like that. Yeah. Yeah. Anywho, uh, I feel you, but uh, you know, the psychology of it is funny. But there's no, there's no I don't know. I'm just not I as I've grown older, I'm less stubborn about things.

SPEAKER_01 36:09

I think I don't think you do it from a mean place. That's that's the way I interpret it. You're not you're not a you're not being mean to the person, it's the topic that you're fighting on. Not not you don't like hate the person you're well, maybe you do, but I don't see it that way.

SPEAKER_03 36:28

It's the topic, and it's just I'll never say like you have your opinion, but I like that that particular thing, the the Shelter Adidas thing, your opinion is fine. I'm not gonna like say shit, let the commenters say shit, which they did. They did a lot of a lot of people like uh I I wanted to call them stupid because they were just like they were walking lead jeans. This night I'm like, Yeah, they were all trendy shit. Are people still rocking lead jeans? Like, you gotta understand that time period, like leather pants and shit, look, it comes and goes, bro, but as a standard, Air Force One to this day is still a staple in 99% of people who know anything about a sneaker or anything about fashions wardrobe. You have an Air Force One in your collection, regardless if you're a sneaker person or not. If you if you have any type of sneakers, casual shoes, whatever, or any fashion sense, you're gonna have a few staple shoes. A Birkenstock in some cases, a Timberland in some cases, a fucking duck boot, maybe. But we all have staple shoes in Air Force One is one of those shoes, regardless if it's a different color or whatever. I don't know many people who have a ton of shelter Adidas in their collection that wear them on a regular basis. I mean, look, you were born in like 1950-something, bro. You gotta what the fuck? Just age me? My goodness. 1950. Wow, whatever, man. There was, you know, abortion was illegal when he was born, people. It still is what he is. Yeah, now it's he just went full circle. He went full circle with this shit. So I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_01 38:02

But my point is I I'm not arguing with you. That's the problem. My my point is that shell toes when when run DMC kind of came on the scene with the shell toes and the freaking leather pants, and it it was it ignited a trend where you could dress up sneakers differently, it put a focal point on sneakers, so it's a part of the culture. And to me, it's it it started a movement differently than if it wasn't there. So while Air Force Ones have have sustained the test of time and Sheltoes, you could argue haven't, I still think Sheltos were extremely influential to help kickstart the culture. And I'll I'll stand ten toes down on it. I mean, you can you can say your shit. Everybody dies on hills. I'm not dying on the hell, it's just my opinion. Yeah, but I have no factual basis. You can't argue I'm wrong. You have no factual factual, it's an opinion. It's my opinion.

SPEAKER_02 39:12

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 39:13

I you know, I just I don't want to pull out the documentary again and show you. But here we go. That's why I made I made those clips with the clip from the documentary.

SPEAKER_01 39:23

Listen, I'm not arguing you're wrong. That's the thing. Like I'm not saying you're wrong.

SPEAKER_03 39:28

I don't think I'm trying to argue. I'm just saying, you know, facts in this debate.

SPEAKER_01 39:32

Sorry, debate that you're wrong. I ain't no Dean Withers up here, all right. Dean that's a good guy.

SPEAKER_03 39:41

I like that guy. Uh, but no, I don't I don't think you're you're wrong or you're right. Yes, it's your opinion, and it's an interesting opinion to have, you know.

SPEAKER_01 39:50

Um everyone's but that's that's what I love about the culture, is everyone can see it differently, but we all share the common interest in sneakers. We all share this bond around so to me, it's it's less about the right or the wrong, it's more about hey, you know, this is the sneaker that influenced me, you know, had a huge influence on me. So everyone has that shoe or that silhouette.

SPEAKER_03 40:15

Speaking of speaking of like opinions and stuff, so you know how we're so big on Reddit, like our you know, some of our stuff goes on Reddit. I was in the meeting. Take a break. I take a break from Reddit. I know, yeah. You see, yeah, especially since you can't, yeah, you can't even take a criticism or a differing opinion without crashing out.

SPEAKER_01 40:35

I had like one crash out and I'm being held accountable for the rest of the people.

SPEAKER_03 40:40

I wish uh can you try to find that link send out? I'm gonna put up on the screen if you got if you could get it. The link to the guy who who left you that long ass comment. The one you sent me. I was like, well, this dude is if you got it, if you if you if you have time, if you I don't I know he sent it to me in a in a in a text message a while ago, but I could I would honestly crash out to or fucking go at him. But um, I was in a meeting at work today, it was a one-on-one meeting with one of these engineers and stuff, and he's like, Do you have like a podcast? I'm like, What? Now we follow each other on Instagram, so I thought he had seen it on Instagram. He's like, I saw your thing about the Kobe shoes and I agree with you. And he was like, I was like, Where'd you see that? He's like, on Reddit. He was like, he's he was like, What? He came and he's like, Yeah, it came up with my Reddit feed. You know, I'm like, I hoop and stuff. And I think he said he hooped. I don't know if he said sneaker, but he's like, I agree with you on the Kobe thing. That's crazy. And I was like, Yeah, I got a sneaker podcast, man. He's like, Oh, I gotta check it out, whatever. I'm like, I bet. Um, so that was cool. That was cool to see that you know, something popped up there, and and um it was um, you know, co-workers. That's the first time that's ever happened without me. I don't usually, I don't know about you, but um I don't know if you spread it out, you're like business people, co-workers that you do a podcast here or there. Uh, but then finding it organically on a platform that's not connected to me felt felt good. You know, that's like the guy coming up to me in Vegas and saying, Yo, I seen your YouTube. You know, that was fire. And I was obviously with a group of friends and stuff. So I was like, Yeah, I'm you know I'm internet famous.

SPEAKER_01 42:09

Yeah, well, I used so in my business podcast that we had, I we would get a lot of that attention because it we were kind of a voice of the industry for years and you know, connected with a lot of the heavy hitters. We got some so yes, I always find it interesting, and it's funny because the way we post clips, I mean, we're pretty heavy in posting, so we are constantly be uh people come up to me all the time, be like, You work, how do you get all this stuff done? Like, how are you posting all this stuff? So the secret sauce, right? But it's always interesting to get recognized.

SPEAKER_03 42:49

Every white man historically has had a black man slaving in the fields making clips for him or clipping cotton. Here we go.

SPEAKER_01 42:57

And yeah, I am I will not take that, not at all, because you refuse to accept any help. And when you do try and help, you are the most judgmental person that it's not. It's gonna make you better, bro. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 43:13

Yo, my wife does clips sometimes for her pot. It's so funny. She'll put the clip up and the fucking shit is upside down. I'm like, babe, the logo you put on the thing is upside down. It's like, oh my god, I messed up. And I was one time she had the our podcast logo on their thing when she tried to make a clip. I was like, what are you doing? Like, did you even see that it says fucking raised on rewind on there? Like it's like, what are you doing? So I I I find it hilarious, you know. Um, I don't I don't care about that. I think it's funny, but it her whole thing when you try to do it or whatever, but um, yeah, the clips and stuff. I appreciate getting everybody's names and voices and faces out there, and I love it. I love the recognition, the genuine recognition, and people actually listening and learning from some of the things that we put. Out there, so thank you, audience, for that. Um, I I know Kari's really engaged with the audience because he he's in the comments and he sees it and he understands, but at the end of the day, uh I just appreciate the fact that you know we got voices and can use them in in whatever way we want. It's been a fun, positive experience.

SPEAKER_01 44:17

So and most of the haters comment the most. I mean, they're they're the most engaged, they're sitting there listening to that shit over and over again. Haters, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 44:27

They don't and you know, it's funny, like our our audio platform is the biggest thing we have. It's not that huge, you know, maybe uh 50-60 downloads a week, but that's like 50-60 people that listen for us to for two hours sometimes just talking about fucking shit. Crazy that we get that number. I mean, it's it it's YouTube is is there too, uh, but not as engaged. Uh but the audio is where we're at. That's where it is. Because you could you can stop listening, turn it back on, do whatever. Um, but shout out to everybody who does that. And shout out to the guys who come on and participate on the pod every week, uh, every other week, or whenever they come on, like John and Eddie and whoever. So um, yeah, uh let's talk Met Gala.

SPEAKER_01 45:09

Met Gala. Um I didn't I didn't, you know, I just the Met Gala just bores me, I'll be honest, but I don't I just anyway talk your shit.

SPEAKER_03 45:23

Did you okay? So shout out number one. I want to give kudos to uh Timothy Chalamet for skipping it to go to a Knicks game, which I thought was money boss player of him.

SPEAKER_01 45:38

Yo, fuck the Sixers, by the way. Uh that worst series. Unbelievable, it was heartbreaking to watch them just implode.

SPEAKER_03 45:47

Well, I mean, look, they got swept, like the Lakers got swept, they got swept. Uh it was inevitable. They didn't have uh I don't know how they beat Boston, to be honest with you. I know it's a three-game run. Bro, that was wild, but uh the Met Gala this year. Um, well, we we go back to basketball later, but Met Gala was interesting. Um my favorite looks are uh I did like Beyonce wasn't bad. Chase Infinity looked good. Was that painted on? Oh no, it's not sequence. She looked good. Um Kendall Jenner looked great. I remember that look. Uh Zendaya wasn't there this year, but her stylist styled up uh what's her name? Uh Sanchez, uh Jeff Bezos' wife. Um, you know what I'm talking about, right? Lauren Sanchez. I do. Yeah, so let me see. Here's some of the looks. Anne Hathaway, I'm a big fan. My niece is um in a movie with her. Ooh, that's a nice dress. And hands and shit. Um, who is this? Christina Carpenter? Yeah, Sabrina Carpenter.

SPEAKER_01 47:08

Sabrina Carpenter. I'm like, Christina. Christina Aguilera. Is that the you know love child of Carpenter and Aguilera? Doja Cat was there.

SPEAKER_03 47:19

She's so gorgeous. Yo, I ain't gonna let me tell you something. Doja Cat only looks good with makeup on the whole. I I follow her on TikTok, and when she takes the wig off, and I mean, look, she's still a good looking human. I'm not gonna say that she's like ugly or anything like that. I never would say that. But like her with the makeup. It's night and day. Now, rough. Yeah, I would say yeah, when she's looking, but I think that what makes her attractive in general is that her free spirit, and that's what is like uh beautiful about her as a person, that she doesn't give a fuck, right? And when she when she I could you could look at her in one way or another and still be like, yeah, that's somebody I'd fuck with. Meaning, you know, on a higher level, not like just uh she just eye candy when she's all done up. Um but she looked great. I love that it looks like wrapping paper, sure. Uh La La Anthony was there. Angel Reese was there? Shout out to Angel. That's a good looking dress. There's no man looks here. Tiana Taylor.

SPEAKER_02 48:31

That's cool. I don't know. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 48:35

I can appreciate the the avant-garde aspect of kind of the fashion and the artistry in it. I just I don't know. I'm a chamberlain. I mean, my my kids, this is what my kids doing. So I I mean, I get it.

SPEAKER_03 48:50

They didn't have any of the men's looks on here, huh?

SPEAKER_01 48:53

The they had the rock on the at least on the skull. Yeah, and then he had that uh Jacob and Co. freaking diamond encrusted wrist candy that was freaking.

SPEAKER_03 49:05

Yeah, that's the isn't that a$1.2 million watch?

SPEAKER_01 49:09

Something crazy. I don't know. I I thought I'm sure I'll get shit for saying that. I thought it was ugly. I don't love things that are that like blue.

SPEAKER_03 49:16

I love Jacob and Company, man. Like uh if you want outlandish pieces, go on him. Rihanna looked good too. I like that. But yeah, Megan.

SPEAKER_01 49:23

You could also do like Van Cleef if you want outrageous pieces like Van Cleef. Yeah, Van Cleef.

SPEAKER_03 49:33

ASAP Rocky. Yeah. ASAP Rocky's like one of the prettiest humans I've ever seen in my life. Look at his skin. Jesus Christ. I want to know who your dermatologist is.

SPEAKER_00 49:44

Money, man.

SPEAKER_03 49:46

Money. Money's your dermatologist.

SPEAKER_01 49:48

Money cures all.

SPEAKER_03 49:50

Yeah. Look at the Nicole Kidman. Damn. She's got plastic surgery done, you could tell. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 49:58

She hasn't aged. I don't think. I think with all the the surgery, it makes her look weird.

SPEAKER_03 50:05

Tyla. I mean, she kind of I don't know. Does she still make music? What does she do now? I don't even fucking know.

SPEAKER_01 50:10

I don't even know. I'm out of touch with some of this stuff.

SPEAKER_03 50:13

She looks good. Sabrina always looks good. She's tiny though. Have you ever seen her in person? She's tiny. Don't matter. Yeah, better. Charlie X. Is she black? Charlie XO? Yeah, uh, I don't know. The Cardi B thing. I've heard people say she looked like some like intestines. Like she, you know what I'm saying? She looking like some intestines here. You know?

SPEAKER_01 50:43

Cardi something, man.

SPEAKER_02 50:45

I gotta say, she is something else. I don't know what this shit is, man. Get out of here.

SPEAKER_03 50:50

Court jest ass. Mistake. Joe Jackson here. I don't know. Did you see the Jackson movie yet? Michael Jackson yet?

SPEAKER_01 50:57

No, we were we were planning on it. No, we want to. We just haven't gone yet. I'm I'm actually really excited. Did you see it? Oh, yeah, we saw it the day it came out.

SPEAKER_03 51:06

Is it good? Hell yeah. All right. Wife said it was good. We watched it together. But it was really good. You know. If you're if you look, you have to be like an MJ fan to appreciate it.

SPEAKER_01 51:19

How can you be it from our era and not be an MJ fan? Like there's nothing not to like.

SPEAKER_03 51:25

Let me take this bullshit off the screen so I can tell the people what they what they look. They turned on him the minute the music industry started talking all that shit. Overnight he becomes a child molester. Heal the world, make it a better place into like, yeah, he's fucking little kids. I don't understand where that came from. And you know, you could, I mean, look, the guy really did look crazy towards the end there, right? With the plastic surgery, the inclusive lifestyle. But it it's like, if he was doing all that stuff, why would you let your children stay there for two, three weeks at a time? And then, like, no problems, no problems. And then all of a sudden, out of out of nowhere, somebody just says something, and then all of a sudden, like two or three people come out of the woodworks with some nonsense that and then that were actually ones vindicating him or whatever. So it's weird. Like uh the documentary that they did on him and all that other shit. It's just like bad taste. They think they did it after he died, so you can't really and you know like Oprah did that shit. Oprah, look, the one thing about Oprah, man, she's good for tearing down a black man. She hates black men for some reason. Color purple, all that shit. Color purple. Watch the movie, read the book. She was in it. I have, yeah, exactly. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Um, but I feel like um he got a bad shake, and it was really because of how he he he pushed against the music industry the way he did.

SPEAKER_01 52:56

So I guess I'd look at it kind of similar to the Kanye discussion we always have. You cannot deny Michael Jackson's talent for as many years for his influence on music and entertainment, the way he entertained. I mean, honestly, the halftime the the football halftime show, right? Super bowl halftime show, it's probably the best one ever. I I like the Prince one too, but you know, talking about another eccentric, these are eccentric people. So I think uh now Michael Jackson as a person, he was weird. That was just super weird, did lots of weird shit. So we're all weird, bro.

SPEAKER_02 53:37

I'm weird.

SPEAKER_01 53:39

Outside the person, I mean, you can't deny his influence on the industry, on the world, his impact from an entertainment perspective, phenomenal. I mean, honestly.

SPEAKER_02 53:50

The mirror.

SPEAKER_01 53:52

He even at his age, still moving the way he did and just freaking changed the way you you performed on stage, like he raised the bar.

SPEAKER_03 54:03

Yeah, dog, what's that song? The heal the world song. That's the one with the the the whale in the video.

SPEAKER_01 54:09

I used to shed a tear. We are the world.

SPEAKER_03 54:11

No, heal the world. It had the orca whale jumping over the cliff. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 54:14

Wasn't that from Free Willy?

SPEAKER_03 54:16

Free Willie's bro. I hear that song, yo. I shed a fucking tear every day. I I see the video, I start, I literally start crying. And when I watched the movie, and I don't know if you're gonna get this feeling too, there was a part in there where they were performing as the Jackson 5. Now they were performing my favorite Jackson 5 song. There's this little girl in the front. And I'm not gonna, this isn't a spoiler or anything, it's just an emotional moment. She's sitting there hugging a picture of the Jackson 5, and they're saying he starts singing to her. And bro, I literally started tearing up again. I was like, I love this song, this moment, this little girl like seeing it, like the just the music, the voice, everything just bro, I'm about to cry right now, yo. That shit was that shit hit me right here in my heart. And I'm like, this is the effect Michael Jackson had. And then when he did the like as he got older, did the tours and the bad and the thriller, like the people's reactions falling out and crying and all this shit. I I I'd never been to a Michael Jackson. I now mind you, I would not react that way, but like it's like once one of them songs come on, because you know I'm a you know, I ain't from the streets, but you know, I'm I'm hard. I pause, but I keep my you know what I mean? You know, I'm not gonna say tough enough.

SPEAKER_01 55:33

It was just funny to me. If you think about it, like you you mentioned bad, right? You remember I mean MTV back then was just you couldn't turn on MTV without seeing an MJ video, and when bad came out, holy you want to talk about goofy shit, like two men having a knife fight and dancing leather pants and dancing around pirouettes and shit. There was nothing masculine about what was going on, yet you felt this like male dominant energy.

SPEAKER_03 56:05

Did you not get in front of the mirror and try to do some of them dances that were like you kidding?

SPEAKER_01 56:09

I was fucking moonwalking everywhere, bro.

SPEAKER_03 56:11

I was trying to do all that shit. And mind you, as as look, I look back, I'm like, actually it was kind of gay to be honest with you, the dancers, but I didn't give a fuck. I was sitting there like trying to moonwalk everything, bro. I tried to do that lean like you did in the smooth criminal video, bro.

SPEAKER_01 56:26

Oh yeah, I couldn't do that fucking zippers on my jacket van. You couldn't put enough zippers on my jacket.

SPEAKER_03 56:33

Um t-shirt with little piano keys on it. I had I had one of them t-shirts, man. They was all over the stores after he was in that video with it. Uh but that dude, would you watch the movie? You'll get it. It's it's it's great. They they went through a lot of the good stuff. A lot of it's like embellished, or they left out a lot of pieces. Like Janet's not in there for whatever the Latoya's all over the place for some reason. I don't understand that.

SPEAKER_01 56:54

Because she was the only one that said you can use my likeness.

SPEAKER_03 56:57

Uh probably because she wanted the money, so she probably let them know the the cop the family was making bread. They they um they had it was a collaborative effort from the whole family to do this thing. They had to get a sign.

SPEAKER_01 57:11

You can even go back to the Jackson 5. I mean, yeah, if you watch Michael Jackson, you know, in his young, young years, it's crazy how much of an entertainer entertainer he was back then.

SPEAKER_03 57:24

Amazing, amazing, pure talent, pure talent, and he wore Shelto Adidas.

SPEAKER_02 57:34

I know he did.

SPEAKER_01 57:34

See?

SPEAKER_02 57:35

Yeah, to it.

SPEAKER_01 57:35

There you go.

SPEAKER_02 57:36

Yeah, to it. I don't know why.

SPEAKER_01 57:38

Uh I never understood the penny loafer thing that he did. Like, I just I think it was just his personal style.

SPEAKER_03 57:43

He just liked to look dressed up. Like he he everything he wore was custom, right? For the most part. But I think he just liked that look, you know.

SPEAKER_01 57:54

Thinks the people around him also influence like that whole Liza Manelli kind of influence with the sequins and that Broadway.

SPEAKER_03 58:05

So yeah, he was a big fan like Fred Astaire and all that stuff. But look, when you're a when you're like a big, like you're a talented person and you you have to come out with like a unique way of styling yourself and dressing. That's why I respect you know like the ASAP Rocky or like and I everybody says, oh, Drake can't dress. I mean, Drake dresses the way he fucking feels like dressing, you know what I mean? Yeah, I fuck with you. I mean, you dress the way you feel like dressing, man, even though you know I don't not everything uh you wear I like, and then same here. I don't think uh I dress any particular way that should you know make people yeah, you know, like conform. Like I feel like I conform to any standard, but uh we all you know have our unique quirks and our style, and it's that's all good, and it makes us unique in our own right. Um what else? Uh didn't want to tell.

SPEAKER_01 58:53

I was you want to talk about the Travis Scott stuff?

SPEAKER_03 58:56

Did you did you see this video? The uh my man um a Gerard Jenkins. You see my man a Gerard's video? He's the one that went to trap the trap god.

SPEAKER_01 59:06

I what I I opened your your list and I yeah, I did my research or reviewed it.

SPEAKER_03 59:12

So do we have to watch this? I don't I don't think we need to. I'll just I'll just keep it here. Uh uh I'll just so uh shout out to A. Gerard. He brought up a great point about where Jordans are in the marketplace right now. And he feels like Nike's doing a social experiment on this with this new um pink Jordan 1 Travis Scott collab that they're putting out two different colorways of. Now, the canary blue, canary and blue ones that they came out with like three summers ago, two or three summers ago, uh were very experimental, in my opinion. Good looking shoe. Actually, I sold mine recently, and I sold my fragments, so I made a cool like what$2,500 combined. Yeah, for and I spent$300,$350 combined, maybe on both after taxes. So I made you know I made some coin. Um, but the fragment, the original fragment ones and that one had similar stock numbers. Uh I think they were only$25,000 off from each other. And the rarest one is the high top, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:00:19

Which high top? The mochas or the fragments?

SPEAKER_03 1:00:22

The I oh you're right. The uh mochas. But the that no, that I think the m the fragments were limited.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:33

Uh I think they were both limited, but I think the fragments were probably more limited.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:42

Okay. Yeah, the fragments were no, the I he put up a screenshot of the the damn stocks on these, whatever.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:53

But so I I just you looked I just fact-checked it. Yeah, so the fragments were were significantly more limited according to Google. Oh, here we go. I found it.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:05

I got it in the video here. Um, hold on, let me see. This is the stock numbers. They he didn't include these are the lows. So the first one, 30,000, the fragment 50. I had both of these. I sold this shit for 70,$750. I still can't get over that. I didn't get my hands on this one. I didn't get my hands on this one, I didn't get this one. I want this one. I didn't even try for it. I got two pairs of these shits. I sold them both. These things I couldn't touch. This one I got, and these two I want, and I'm gonna get them. But yeah, I feel like damn, I did get one, two, three, four. I got four out of all of these? Damn. Retail, bro. Retail.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:48

That's pretty good.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:49

That is pretty good. Anyway, I didn't make enough money though. I could have made five racks if I'd sold this one later.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:57

Fucking reseller. Damn right.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:59

Anywho, uh yeah, so his point here when he did this whole thing was that the moment for this Travis Scott thing is still there, but it's kind of manufactured. And what Nike's trying to see is if the marketplace still demands these shoes, can we scale up making them right? Because right now, I think these shoes are only selling out, at least the ones that are made with over 100k pairs because of resellers. I don't think everybody's checking for a Travis Scott like that now. As you can see, all those other silhouettes kind of take a while to sell out or sit. Uh the one seems to be the only one that moves, but resellers understand who they're selling to, and that's what moves those markets. So they're putting out larger stock numbers here to test something. And yes, they'll probably sell out, but the resale markets can be the indicator of like, hey, can we mass produce a Travis Scott and just make that the Jordan 1 silhouette now rather than retroing a bunch of random Jordan 1s? Be interesting. Yeah, because they could dude, they did a ton of colorways. Just a the low, two, four. We're talking 12 colorways of the of the low, and they have two different highs.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:28

So I don't I I refuse to pay resale on Travis Scott, so I don't I only have one pair. I have the reverse olives, and that's it. It's the only one I ever hit retail on. But I I think it's just the hype. Everyone hypes the shoe up. I literally everybody is as soon as there's a Travis Scott kind of thought, it's it gets out into the internet. Forget it. Yeah, everyone's juicing the shit out of that. So same with the Nigel Sylvester, right? Like the the one that's coming out, what, on the 22nd of May? Well, the Nigels are nice, though. Is it the black? Bro.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:10

We're talking just the black Jordan ones. I thought we were talking about the ones.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:14

We could talk. The ones are nice, but they didn't they didn't have the hype behind it as the fours did. The brick by brick. I mean, to me, the the ones is a much the one low is a super easy shoe to wear. Great colorway, great materials, cool design.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:30

You know, little hits.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:32

But yeah, the the brick by brick is a super hard shoe to fit, in my opinion. It's a red shoe. But it's a weird red, and it's all red, it's all one color.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:45

It's you can wear it with a Santa suit.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:48

It's not as versatile as the the the bike air lows, right? Or the the bike lows.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:55

Yeah, those I I'd kind of want to un DS them, but they're going for like almost 300 bucks now.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:01

Are they? Yeah, I got three pairs.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:05

What you know, let me hold one, bro.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:09

If you want.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:10

The one you didn't put your foot in. I want that one.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:12

I didn't wear any of them yet.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:14

Well, I want the one that's been furthest away from your feet. I haven't even tried them on, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:19

They're still wrapped in in perfect, pristine condition. The box is a little jacked up, but that's about it.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:25

I'll take the jacked-up box for$20 off. You can get no discount.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:32

You break.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:33

I do want to wear that shoe. I like that one though. I'm but I'm not like a black shoe wearer, so selling it's enticing to me. But if you need some extra bread, sell them now, man. I think I mean we can go look at that price real quick.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:44

I'll look it up for it. Resale's been terrible lately, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:50

We're looking at a hefty. Let's see. Uh for sale. We are looking at. What the fuck? Where is it? Yeah, I want to get rid of those um Royal uh Union fragment joints. Over it. 273. Um last sale 275. It's not bad. You should get let go a couple of them pairs. Make make quick 50 bucks. After fees.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:23

It's too much effort.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:26

Printing the label and putting it on a box and sending it out?

SPEAKER_01 1:06:28

I'm not a reseller, man. I'm telling you.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:30

Bro, I seen you get under a dirty car to fix a fucking whatever the fuck you fix. But you won't you won't and and spend five, six racks for a steering wheel or whatever the fuck. Like you won't go to UPS to drop off a box and make 300 bucks. You're probably hard to do. 300?

SPEAKER_01 1:06:48

Yeah, but for 50 bucks, no, I'm saying you're gonna get 300 or 270 something, whatever. No, because then you gotta minus out the retail, so I'm not making 300.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:58

You're making 50 bucks.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:00

Yeah, it's and it's just not worth it to me.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:03

I'd rather hold on to it until it's worth four or five hundred bucks. No, I mean they're good clearly they're worth look when this famine and all this fucking shit hits, and it's like fucking uh, you know, I can eat the shoe. Hunger games out this bitch. Um, yeah, you can eat the shoe, or somebody be knocking at your door looking for a pair of shoes, and you got a shoe store in your own house. Imagine that when like literally the purpose of these shoes will be to wear them, and people are running around scavenging, looking for shit, walking around in fucking Prada shoes and shit just because they don't want to step on glass.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:40

Don't you ever want to bless people though? You ever do that where you'll you'll take the shoe and you'll put it in some crappy box and drop it off at Goodwill and bless somebody someday?

SPEAKER_03 1:07:50

That's a waste of time. You're terrible. I would give them the shoe in the box that it came in. But you know what? Somebody might I'll be fucked up.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:00

Like one of the workers there might take it and say, Yeah, well, hey, you're blessing somebody. Who cares who? Blessing a thief?

SPEAKER_03 1:08:07

No, never. Hey, not me, bro.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:12

Hey, they could sell the shoe and make some money to feed their family, so it's it's all for a purpose.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:18

Yeah, I don't know, man. So yeah, this Travis Scott shit. It's it's uh it's interesting. Um, do you like those two silhouettes? Would you uh I do.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:27

I actually like the colorway. Uh the one with the brighter pink swoosh. Um that I thought that was red, but it's a pink phone. Is it red? It looks pink to me. Like a hot pink, a hot pink, which I like. I like the contrast of color, but um I I feel like it's just every I don't care what anybody says, I'll probably take heat for this, but everyone goes for the Travis Scott, regardless, like especially uh Travis Scott Lowe. Everyone's just going for it. It's just because it's a hard shoe to get. Is that pink? Looks red. It does look red now that I'm looking at it.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:03

I mean, this could be just you know, it's like it's a screenshot, but whatever. It's pink. They're gonna say some, they'll tell you on the board.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:11

It'll be another trash release that's super exclusive, hard to get, just like the Nigel's. It'll be super hard to hit, and you know, resale will be jacked up, they'll be backdoored. So I'm sure I'm sure you could find. Are they they're probably for sale on StockX already? They are. So I mean it's typical stock X for a minute.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:35

A lot of people doing their reviews now.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:36

People bigger, but that's what pisses me off is they backdoor all these shoes, and they, you know, again, they influence the shit out of it and make it super hard to get because everyone's botting the release. I don't think this release will get botted.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:49

I've hit like I those canaries I hit on, I hit on the brown ones.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:53

I thought the brown ones would do better, but look at the blue look at the fucking blue tiles today. Like, honestly, that shoe had so much hype, and a lot of people were hit, like were able to hit locally, and then all of a sudden the sneakers release 4,400 pairs. Like, what a joke! What a joke. And you said the aftermarket's like under 200? It's low, it's like 270, which which is still like a hundred bucks over retail, or you know, a little more than a hundred bucks, but still it's not you you go back two years ago, that shoe would have been 900 bucks. What's the name of that shit? Blue tile. Blue tile. What if John got a pair? I think he did. I I think he said that in the IG chat today.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:37

Oh, I missed it.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:39

He hit local, or he commented on my my video because that was all cranky that I didn't hit.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:46

Crankster. This is the joint 223, that's not a bad price.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:49

Yeah, and it's going down. It's gonna go dropping. So it's just to me that the market's just weird right now because this shoe had a lot of hype around it. It's a good looking shoe. The toe box has a butterfly on it. So I was pissed because I couldn't hit locally either. I even went to the skate shop, but they sold out in a 12. But that's a to me, that's a cool release. It's got a great story, it's cool details, tons of hidden details in the shoe. So to me, the design language on on that SB goes way further than just a fucking reverse swoosh.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:39

Yeah, but it's not Travis Scott. Okay. I I get it.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:46

I just you know Travis Scott.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:48

You know the Travis. How many Travis Scott albums you live listen to? I listen to that shit, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:54

I mean, you got some songs I like, but I'm not like you're not listening to a you know, album after album.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:59

Speaking of but now can you can you recall the last like I'll know it's funny? I was listening to Megadeth Sweating Bullish. You were you listened to metal, right? Oh yeah. That was yo, I used to uh what was it, uh Headbanger's Ball or whatever on MTV?

SPEAKER_01 1:12:16

Ricky Rackman.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:18

Dog, I'd stay up, watch yo MTV raps, get that's where I discovered this band on there because that video came on.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:27

Uh see Dave Mustain was part of Metallica, original member of Metallica. I don't even know, bro.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:33

The the redhead is the lead singer.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:35

Yeah, he the lead singer. He's Dave Mustaine. He just was such a heroin addict that.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:40

Oh, he looked like that video was wild. And now he has throat throat cancer or something when you inject the fucking shit right into your throat.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:49

But again, Dave Mustaine, like Megadeth is just I don't know. I was I couldn't stop listening. It's relevant now, especially in in the dog, he said current landscape.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:01

The the the um the lyrics on that song are crazy crazy. He's like hindsight 2020. All this shit that as an adult, you start all these little catchphrases, and um as an adult, I start thinking of and saying more. This guy was singing about it in a song from the early 90s.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:22

Yeah, and then you had so you had Headbanger's Ball, Young TV Raps, and I don't know if you well, I mean, I loved 120 Minutes with Matt Penfield, like the all the heart of alternative music at that time, like two hours of just straight alternative music. Uh those are good.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:39

I used to try to catch those shows when I could, but the music video nowadays is just like a marketing tool. It's just yeah, it's and they don't yeah, they don't put much effort into it. But the creativity, I say in some instances, creativity has gone up because with the advent of the cameras, before you had to literally use cinematic cameras to get anything done. Now you could film a fucking better production of your iPhone, and they actually purposely do that. Like my friend Show me, who does music videos for a living, he shot shit for Beyonce and whoever uh ASAP, all of them. And he's he shot videos for people on an iPhone, like they wanted it shot like that. And he's like, all right, cool. It's all about how you, you know, the video effects and the editing. You just gotta be that's where the creativity comes in now because the digital editing performance platforms are way better than they used than they were back then. Imagine having to cut tape and paste it together to make an edit.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:41

Yeah, but there was also the release strategy. Uh like you they would hype up this. Like, I remember the Janet Jackson and Michael Jackson video that came out when they were singing again. I forget the name of the yes. Like, do you remember the hype around that video? Like they were hyping it up, and then they finally released it, and it was like all the rage, it was all over. So I that's just doesn't exist anymore.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:06

Yeah, and he did like he did proper he did movies, right? Thriller, bad, they were all like 15, 30 minute movie like mini documentaries around how they did the film, and I was watching the Liberian Girl video. I don't know if you that song from Michael. So I was listening to that shit. I was like, I remember the song, but I didn't ever I never saw the video till last week. He had everybody in that video, bro. He had Ricky Schroeder, fucking Dan Aykroyd, Whoopi Goldberg. Um whoopie. Whoopee. A whole bunch of celebs in that that video. Great, great video. Yeah, such a creative time, man. I'm so glad. We gotta do another retro podcast.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:54

I keep I know we should talk about music, music videos, and just kind of I I think it's funny you you kind of dipped your toe into metal. I wouldn't have, I would not have come on, put you in that that category. I mean, I had the freaking my hair was down to my ass. I had all that shit. I was just a fucking mess, a hot mess. I had the mohawk, I super huge into punk rock. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:19

It's uh listen a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:20

You should go you should do a reach back, listen to some like go back, it's not super far back, but some Rollins, some Henry Rollins. Listen to Liar, the song Liar, like the lyrics that are.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:32

So I ain't gonna lie to you. I only got exposed to shit that I saw on MTV, really, and most of it was revolved around the videos. So I would sit up, tape these videos, and watch them on repeat with my rap videos. That this is songs that I liked. Um, but I I tried to just catch everything back then. Music was such an instrumental part. No, no, I went to so many shows.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:58

My mom took me to so many concerts, it was a weird thing. Like I saw my first concert was when I was 12 years old. I saw Rush, fucking power windows, it was amazing. And then she took me to Bon Jovi, slippery when wet. My mom got into a fist fight. Damn, I mean, Def Leopard.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:18

I want I was just about to say, I want to see a Def Leopard show. Pour some sugar in.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:23

I saw David Lee Roth get completely annihilated, drunk on stage, and make an absolute fool of himself. I mean, these were the like in crazy years of rock and roll.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:33

So I wasn't a KISS fan, but I got tickets. I don't know where I got them from when I was I was like a teenager. Had tickets to their last show at Madison Square Garden. I went to see Kiss at Madison Square Garden. I didn't even know what the fuck I was listening to. I was enjoying it, I guess.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:49

That's awesome. I saw Stone Temple pilots and they dressed up in full Kiss makeup. They were that's great, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:58

Yeah, man. What was that shit called? They're they're uh what's that shit called?

SPEAKER_01 1:18:03

Um uh there was not Vaseline.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:06

Um no, the just the their main their biggest song, their first single, whatever the fuck it was called.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:11

It's Pilot Something.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:13

Nah. You're wrong, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:15

You don't know look it up now.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:19

Wearing Shelto Adidas in the joint.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:24

Music was my savior, man. It kept me alive.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:27

Yeah, that's why I like um plus Pink Floyd twice.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:30

Interstate love song.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:32

No, plush. That was their biggest creep, creep and plush.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:36

No, creep, they didn't sing creep, dude.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:38

That's Radiohead.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:40

Yeah, that's on called creep. It's Radiohead. Okay. Oh, they do, you're right. My bad. But Radiohead also has a song called. I know creep.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:52

Um wait, are you sure are you sure it was Radiohead?

SPEAKER_01 1:18:57

No, yes, I'm positive. Okay, that's a band I that's a bucketless band for me. I never saw them live.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:07

Oh and TLC also had a song called Creep.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:10

Yeah, you can keep that one. What? I was not a TLC. I wasn't a TLC fan. Waterfalls ruined TLC. Like I couldn't fucking hear the song because it it's gonna be in my head now.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:23

Shaheem the Rugged Child was in that video.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:25

Yeah, but that that's a like that song's an infection, it just con it just won't go away.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:32

Creep, creep it on down the shit was amazing. Yeah, I love that song, man. That that was such a great time for RB. Look, this is a music podcast now, 90s to like maybe the 2010s, uh maybe up to 2013. So let's go all the way. Let's say from 1990 all the way up to 2013 was like the golden era of RB to me. Like just the way I mean the old stuff in the 70s and 80s and stuff was very soulful and loving and had meaning, and you could groove to it, but there was like I mean R. Kelly and fucking um my god, The Dream, Trey Songs, even Drake dipped his toe in some RB. You know, a lot of a lot of good RB from that era, like 90s on Tony Braxton, Boys to Men. Uh Boys to Men. Uh Bel Biv DeVoe.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:40

Yo, BBD, East Coast fam. Come on.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:44

That's fucking another bad creation. Uh, those kids.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:48

I love Bel Biv Daveau. Poison, just that's that's a like Yeah, voice of a generation.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:55

Dog, he's had the that that line in um the poison video, a poison song when he was talking about the 17. Hey, backstage, underage. That line's like listen, they was they was rapping. They was they was talking about look that era. Yo, dog, I always say this about the way we grew up, man. All that shit like was acceptable as long as you didn't really act on it, like talking about being with it, like talking about your there was a song. What was that thing? She she was 17 years old. Remember that? It's like a it's like a rock song. The guy looked creepy as fucking the video. I for it's on my playlist. I forgot the name of the song.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:31

Um, I know what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:33

The song is fucking good though, but the video was so creepy. He goes up to the little girl's window, starts singing to her, and then he goes to the door, and the father's like, get the fuck out of here. Why are you talking about literally?

SPEAKER_01 1:21:44

We were all feral, like growing up at Gen X and you know, early millennials. We were just feral, dude. Like there was no supervision, you did what the fuck you wanted. Good luck stopping you. It just it just was different. I've and now I you know kind of feel old saying, Oh, it's different back then, but it just that time was you had the most creative things were born out of all that, I think. Just some insanely create creative and new music genres. Yeah, here we go.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:19

What? Oh no, I thought you're pulling up the video. I'm trying to find the song. I forgot the name of the artist, though. Gosh, no, you're gonna she was I know the lyrical. She oh, here it is. Into the night. Benny Martin. Yeah, Into the Night. Oh my god. I'm just gonna read the lyrics. It's oh, she was it's not 17, she was 16. Wait a second. Wait, let me something. Yo, he had so many records though. Like, I was listening to some of his catalog. This guy was talented, just a little weird. Uh, I can't play the video, I don't want to get copyrights. Even if you know, you knew even if you turn the sound off, they fucking fuck with you. I know she's just 16 years old. Leave her alone. They said, separated by fools who don't know what I love is yet, but I want you to know. If I could fly, I'd pick you up, I'd take you into the night. Yo, these motherfuckers was wild back then, bro. They didn't give a fuck. She's 12 years old. Let me go make a music video out of her in a whole fucking song. Yeah, it's a it was a crazy time to be alive, man. And not even crazy. Like, I think we came out better. Nah, well, no, no, Trump's ruining the world, not our generation. We still haven't had a chance to really get in there and fuck some shit up. She would sure we do a good job.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:45

I don't know. I don't know. I I think they can skip our generation for government. Go younger.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:52

I need to get to get in there. Okay. Um, there's one more topic, sneaker related, I actually wanted to touch on. All right. No, no homo. Pause. Uh so I was I'm not gonna play this video again. So uh this guy uh I think I sent the link in the in the chat about it, but we I watched I watched this video with um homie from oh god, the KNet dude. Um I don't know if you actually peeped this, but um, he went to the laced up store in New York. So they're like a big reselling shop. They they're considered reseller, but I think they're more boutique. They like they tote that weird line between boutique and reseller. Uh so they are uh I'll take this off the screen. This store has this new model of reselling where these silhouettes now are way more accessible, so they will go buy a whole bunch of shoes wholesale, like sambas and Air Force Ones and all that stuff. So now you get it like cheaper on StockX. So they might even go on StockX and buy a bunch of pairs, right? And they'll competitively price them to the Foot Locker and the and the other retailers. So maybe you know, the Air Force One's$115, they'll price it at$110. And people will come in and buy it there when they're in New York. Because there's a lot of foot traffic, Times Square and stuff. Sure. Or I could get it for$10 or$5 cheaper here. I don't need to go to Foot Locker. And this guy's giving me the box and a bag, and then it's a nicer atmosphere, you get a nicer, nicer experience.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:33

Or you can hit up Canal Street.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:35

I mean, that's you get the fake, yeah. That's on the cruise. Yeah. But like I thought that was a genius way to pivot out of the pandemic hype, hype beast era of reselling. Because look, you're not gonna get$1,000 for a Hellstar hoodie anymore. You're not gonna be able to sell a bunch of Supreme for a bunch of money anymore. It takes about six months to move a Supreme piece and make$50 off of it. I know because I'm selling a lot of my Supreme, and people buy it sporadically. Like they, you know, they'll see it like, oh shit, I wanted that jacket. I didn't get it on the drop when it sat for five weeks, right? And then they they end up buying it next season. Because it's weird how the seasonality with Supreme goes. Stuff, older stuff, people by chance come across them by doing their Google searches, right? They're like, oh, I want to get a Gore-Text Supreme jacket, maybe from this per pass drop, but they'll see something like, oh shit, that one's dope. That was from 2019. Let me go get that. So I see how the market moves with that type of stuff. The hype stuff, you gotta sit on it. We talk about that with Kari all the time. But now with reselling, the tide has shifted and people resell. They resell based off of not hype, but necessity. And getting things under market value. I like it. I think it's a good business model. I think this is this is this is bringing back the good old sneaker shop, right? You know, like the guy who had the the shoes. With the guy in New York, the Jew Man. They had a guy named Jew Man. You could be that guy. You go sell open up a store, bro. Jew Man Part 2. I should in Texas. Yo, if you open up a store, let's call it 12 hub.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:26

I know, right? That's all like I could sell my seriously.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:30

That size the 12.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:31

That's right.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:32

12.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:33

What's what size you? It's like the dollar store. How much is this? A dollar. How much is this? A dollar. What size is this? 12. What's that? 12, 12. Can I try it on? What size are you?

SPEAKER_03 1:27:43

12.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:44

Gotcha. Don't worry about it. You can't try on any shoes. We'll we'll live by your rules. Can't try them on. Can't sell them. So how do you buy shoes in the store? Oh, me? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:56

I don't try anything on, I just buy it. No, no.

unknown 1:27:59

You

SPEAKER_01 1:28:00

I know my size. Buying shoes that people have tried on. So how do you know the shoes you thought were bought you bought new were not trying to do?

SPEAKER_03 1:28:07

I don't know. It's my same mentality that I have buying off the resale platform. I don't it it's probably fake, but I don't know that. I'll wear it. It's probably fake, but I'll wear it because I think it's real. But like if I I if look, if I go to DSW or to buy a pair of dress shoes, I don't buy dress shoes retail. I'm gonna go to DSW. I'll open up the box. If the shoe tree is in it and it looks cleanly packed, I'll buy it. If the shit's been in shambles and there's fucking paper hanging off of it and and the box is ripped or something, I know it's been handled, and I won't put pick it up. But if it's a clean box and it's off the shelf, I'll buy it. I don't care.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:41

So this is the question I want to ask you. And whoever made it this far in the podcast, thank you. Leave a comment and answer this question. If you buy a pair of shoes at the shoe store and they've been tried on, do you still consider them DS?

SPEAKER_03 1:29:01

My answer to that is it's very subjective, and it really depends on what resale platform you sell it on and if they deem it DS or not. To me, it's not DS. I got a story. I I bought a pair of those Easter threes that came out off of um Foot Locker or something. They were discounted to 150 something, and I had a$20 coupon. So I got them really cheap, like a buck 20. They came in. The sold like this is a white shoe, right? The bottom of it is dirty. The shoes were laced, like they somebody put a knot in the lace already. So but they were clearly either a return or somebody tried them on. I got this shoe, I'm stuck with it, I can't resell it. And then and then look, I have three pairs, so I gotta sell one and keep so I I I look in my head. I don't know if that was really tried on or not, but clearly they were. But I don't know it. I didn't see the motherfucker put them on, nor did I know that the motherfucker put them on. So like I know that you like when you say to me, yo, I got you, I got a pair that I wore once or twice. You just told me the thing I didn't want to hear. So yeah, exactly. When I buy stuff off the real, I bought one pair of used shoes. Remember we talked about a few weeks ago? I'm probably never gonna wear those. It was just an impulse buy because it was so cheap for a shoe that that I really like. And I still haven't my my other pair is kind of it's not really that cooked, but it'll get cooked one day because I wear it. And I really like that shoe. So now I have three pairs, one dead stock and two used ones. One I used and the other one I bought off the real reel for like 90 bucks. Um I don't know, but uh look, it's it's it's all hey.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:44

I get it. I just I it's a it's just a question. I I don't know, it could could be rage bait or just engagement bait around you know, do you consider shoes that are tried on dead to me? Dead stock is just literally you pulled it out of stock with and it's brand spanking new. There it's the box isn't even open, it's just the way it came from the factory. Yeah, that's dead stock to me.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:09

Yeah, I hear you. I'm um I I I don't know. It's it's I'm just I think because the culture, at least the buying culture, has changed to this thing where we get it directly from the manufacturer, so it's really on us to try it on. And you get a brand new shoe, you're just used to seeing a clean shoe the minute you open up the box. When I get shoes like from and this is only when I buy it later from Foot Locker or whatever, that shit's been abused sometimes. Like it has been tried on. And I've noticed this with a few pairs that I've gotten. Now, now these are pairs I said I'm gonna resell or whatever. Rare, like more recently, they have been shoes that have been tried on, especially when they're discounted and they've been sitting. Um, and I think they purposely do that shit and because it pisses me off, but whatever.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:00

I think the buying, I don't know. I maybe it's just because we're so deep in the collection kind of thing. But where if I was if I go to a store to buy a pair of shoes, I rarely try it on, and if I do try it on, I ain't walking around in it. You know what I mean? I'm just seeing if it fits, but I ain't I know them shits are gonna be uncomfortable. Like I don't put a Jordan one high on toe and be like, oh yeah, my it's like a pillow.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:28

See, that's a good point you make, because I think the mentality when you're buying retros or if you're buying like a performance shoe. Back in the day when we went to the shoe store, especially when we were kids, because our feet are still growing and stuff, you gotta try it on and make sure you're still the same size.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:45

Yeah, and your parents would be like walk around the store, walk around, see if it fits, you know, does it hurt your feet?

SPEAKER_03 1:32:52

Yeah, and then you if you didn't work, yeah. Well, you don't do because you're number one, your feet are grown. Number two, um, you already pretty much know how the cut and the fit are of the same shoe that you've been buying for the last 30 years, Jordan 1 or whatever. So, yeah, I mean I feel like I do that with all shoes.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:08

I can't wear sneakers to work, so you know, in dress shoes, I don't go try on dress shoes, I just buy them online.

SPEAKER_03 1:33:14

Yeah, you just buy them, you know what it is, you wide, whatever. But with with sneakers, or most shoes for the most part, now that we're grown, we hate we kind of understand how our feet are, what our threshold of pain is. I haven't bought a pair of shoes that I could really lately, at least that I could say has really fucked up my feet. I you know what's funny? I bought 11 and a half new balances before and they fit fine. A little snug, but not that bad. That's crazy. I have a wide foot too, but 11 and a half in the loot balance, it fits me. But then I've got to go to the bottom. Yeah, but then sometimes I'll be 12 and a half in some other shoes. I should I should get 12 and a half Jordan 4s, but they look huge. Like the jump from 12 to 12 and a half is crazy. Did you ever see like have you gotten a 12 and a half Jordan 4 ever? I've had 14.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:03

I have 13s.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:04

Okay, you put the 12 and a half and the the 12 up against each other. It looks like it looks like a size 14 in my and like I'm damn, this is like huge.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:12

It literally looks like a car, like a four-door car, and then you turn that four-door car into a limo. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:19

Yeah, it's just and then you did then it's like 13 doesn't look that much bigger than a 12 and a half. So, and I never tried on a 12 and a half. I should in the Jordan 4 because I need it.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:29

Do a half size in the in the four? I didn't think that.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:32

I got the Navy um SB4s in the 12 and a half. I got a bunch of 12 and a half fours. Yeah, I get them. If I go like if if I say, hey, I'm gonna rock this shoe. I try to get I used to try to get a 12 and a half just because I like I'm like, I'm gonna finally put on that 12 and a half and be comfortable. But I don't. I put on the 12 because I look at that 12 and a half, I'm like, this shit is a fucking like it looks like a big ass shoe, look like a clown shoe to me. I'm like, I ain't gonna do it. So I I get uh I put on my little 12. My toe, my little baby toe is poking out the side and bleeding, and I I'm content with it for you know the half a day I wear it.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:12

So it's tricky, man. It's a tricky, tricky experience with all that shit, man. It's good though. That's first fashion piece, I'm saying.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:20

What the fuck's he? Oh, you're saying the thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:24

Oh, that's your kid's stuff? Nice. Yeah, that's what he made. Wearing it over side. He made that? I need a I need what's that? I can't wear that shit over my head, man. Yeah, we'll leave that to the kids, bro.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:33

You could take it off, but it's a whole jacket made out of jeans.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:38

Those denims. A denim's fire.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:40

I like it. Those extra pockets. He's got some talent. He's got to do what's the name of his brand.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:47

Nuisance. Nuisance to humanity. That's a lot. It's a mouthful, but that's his brand.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:56

Hey, I don't know. I hey look, I'm not gonna lecture children on marketing, so good job. Shout out to uh Travis Nate. That's a trash. Hey, I said it right in the beginning of the podcast.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:09

You did.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:09

I I don't I did not take a off the top of my head this time.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:14

He's a good kid.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:15

So at least he's is he wearing shelter Adidas? Is he wearing it?

SPEAKER_01 1:36:18

Nah, he's got good sneaker game, though. That's just because of me. But he he you know the shoe he wears the most, or the black metallic? Oh, fives. Black met he wears. These kids are so weird, you know, and threes. He wears black hat threes and black metallic fives.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:33

Sean's kid, his dream shoe a couple of years ago is the fucking military black Jordan 4. The black and white Jordan 4, the panda reverse panda Jordan 4, whatever it was.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:44

Easy to fit, man. It goes with everything.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:46

These kids, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:48

Yeah, and I wear that with a fucking pair of jorts and a white T. Going back to 2005 is so hard for me. I used to wear jorts all the way down to my shins.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:03

I can't I can't do it. I can't do it anymore. I already look like a you know, being told I look like an idiot the way I dress, so I don't need any more. I just jorts just isn't a good look for me to begin with.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:15

I just feel weird. A few years ago, old men were wearing jorts.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:20

I I know it, but now it's like the kids are back on it. You're not bringing jams back either. You don't see people rocking jam. You don't remember jams? Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:29

Oh, wait, it looks like the pajama pants, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:31

That that the with the football designs all over sprints and everything. I guess they transferred into the zubas, which was the thing in the cooking community. You know, every chef would wear zubas because they were comfortable, but yeah. So you don't see that or clam diggers, right? The the freaking wait, what'd you say? Clam digger. What? Shut up. You know what I said. I would never say the other. So literally, they're like capris, they were like capris. Okay, they would go just under the knee, you know. Because if you're digging for clams on the beach, you don't get your pants wet. I know what those things are.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:10

They're like um, yeah, you say capris.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:12

You don't see them coming back.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:14

What do they call gaucho pants?

SPEAKER_01 1:38:15

What are gaucho pants? Gao. Aren't they like barrel pants? Like yeah, women, oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:21

Goucho. Just pull that shit up.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:24

Because gaucho or groucho?

SPEAKER_03 1:38:27

Gouch gaucho, wide leg calf and I'll stop in her.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:31

Almost like Charlie, uh Charlie Chaplin pants.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:34

Are they? That's that's that's uh I had a girlfriend that wore a pair of these, and I was like, I don't know what she told me the name of them or not. I was like, what the fuck are those? It's kind of interesting. Then Capri's and all that shit. Like, where'd they come up with this shit? That shit accentuates that ass. Look at that's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:50

That's just I'm like a gaucho pant. Oh, you you can rock them in the next pod.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:57

Oh, Janko pant. Yeah, that's why I've never worn no. Come on. Wait, let me check.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:03

I didn't even even when I went to Raves, I didn't wear Jenko's.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:08

I don't want you fucking discount, bro. Just show me the Jankos. Look at this shit, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:11

Yeah, I can't do it. I mean, I I like the look of it on someone else to an extent. Like, I it's not a bad fit. I just can't look like that.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:21

Is that even a fit? I can't wear Jankos, man. It's just so pointless. And what what okay? Look, I'm a I'm a shoe first guy. So I need I need my shoes to be seen a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:36

You know what you could wear with that fit? The Pharrell Williams freaking shell toes.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:44

Or or the uh Kerwin Frost shell toes, which is even bigger.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:48

Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:39:50

That is true.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:52

Wait, did he no, he did an all-star, yeah. Shout out to Kerwin Frost. I have a newfound respect for you after I saw a couple of interviews that you did. I used to hate you. I sold your um your uh Mr. Potato Hood shoe.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:08

I like the cookie monster one.

SPEAKER_03 1:40:10

I have that.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:11

I want to wear it. Is it really the clog?

SPEAKER_03 1:40:13

Oh no, I have the patent leather joint.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:15

Um, I'm talking about the clog.

SPEAKER_03 1:40:17

Not the patent leather, it's the green, it's like plastic, actually, not patent leather.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:21

Yeah, it's a plastic clog.

SPEAKER_03 1:40:24

No, it's a sneaker. Oh well.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:27

I know the sneaker you're talking about, the Mr. Potato Head. I'm talking about maybe I'm talking about something different. I'll show you. I know I'm talking about something different.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:37

Yeah, I'll get on stock X. Let me see.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:39

And then I gotta bounce, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:41

I got a bounce? Alright. Well, that has been another.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:44

No, no, and then I got a oh, and then you got a mouse.

SPEAKER_03 1:40:46

Oh yeah. Well, this is the the Mr. Potato Head shoe, but let me see.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:50

Here, I'll I'll send you the one I'm talking about. The Kerwin Frost McDonald's Fry Guy Clog. Not cookie monster.

SPEAKER_03 1:40:59

So I have these, the forum. This is the uh oh shit. Sorry, I'm not even off screen. This joint. These I like a lot. Uh and then there were these. These are these are the ones I haven't put on my feet yet, but they're oh 370 to sell them for? Oh, last sale 130. So these joints, look at that. These are fire. I gotta find these and pull them out because I got these too somewhere.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:25

Uh honestly, I've never seen those.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:28

Really? Came out with the um the the that collection that year.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:32

There it is. I'm talking about the one at the top.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:34

Yeah, nobody wants these. This is the shit that came with the happy meal.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:38

What he's made out of ceramic? I think it came with now. It's it's like hard plastic. I can't see these things being comfortable. They're massive too, especially like in a 12. You want to talk about a something that looks like a massive 12 is the biggest size, so you might as well go.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:51

You have to size down or something.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:53

I don't know. I know I've never put them. I found a used pair uh like at the resale shop, but they wanted wait, they wanted 500 bucks. I'm like, what? Super stuffed.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:03

I might get these 100 350. Oh, they these are not, you can't even find these anymore. Everybody bought these novelty shoes. It looks like a superstar. Shout out to Kerwin Frosto. Much respect to you for whatever you do. He got a McDonald's collab, he did a LeBron 19.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:26

I have a couple of his uh t-shirts. McDonald's t-shirt.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:30

Yo, why are these$350? What the fuck's going on here?

SPEAKER_01 1:42:34

Oh, I think the aftermarket. Everyone hates the 19, but uh, I think this is the worst LeBron ever.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:39

He didn't even wear it, you know that, right? He stopped wearing it during that season.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:46

I don't hate that shoe, but that's just me.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:49

I uh I have a few pairs. I got the Dornbecker ones. See the LeBron Valentine's Day. This is what I wish they I mean, they did revert back to this after the 19. I don't know why they did the 19 like that, but these were nice. The um 18. I thought the 18s were fine. I got I got a lot of colorways on the 18. They're small, they're snug, though. You know, Stewie.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:13

The Stewie's are cool, but the sevens to me were the best LeBron silhouette.

SPEAKER_03 1:43:17

Yo, you if you dog, you definitely have to size up, but they had the uh these these are the Arnold Palmers. Yo, but I bought these in a size 12 and they were snug as fuck, and I wore them on vacation.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:28

Oh, his shoes are snug, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:43:29

I feel like every the 17 the LeBron 17. Um I wore these, I hooped in these a lot. I actually I hooped in these. I wish I didn't hoop in them because they're$400 now. But these are fucking sweet. Look at the with the tiger on the joint.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:48

But these are the Lakers colorway in the I got that too, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:43:51

I rocked it.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:52

But they I can't wear them anymore because the sole is so hard and cracked, like freaking like ice skates. Yeah, they they did not age well for me.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:01

I gotta go look at open up my boxes and find out. These are the mounstars. Um, the Laker, the Laker was one of the launch colorways, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:44:08

I think so. I feel like you and I are one of the few. There it is, the$200 one.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:14

Yeah, I had to.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:15

I feel like you and I are one of the few people that fuck with LeBrons, but I gotta go put these on.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:19

I gotta go, I might just go rock them outside regularly. Oh, I had these too with the 90 bucks. Jesus Christ, these are so nice. I remember I the more than I remember this came with a bunch of sharpies. You remember on top, you know, remember that it came with a box of sharpies, and you could write whatever you want on the tongue. I gotta go open that box too. I have that shit somewhere.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:40

I'm gonna end on this note. My big, my big idea was I collected the entire line of LeBron 20s. I I think I'm missing two that were like super exclusive, and the resale on them is thousands. And I thought, all right, this is gonna be the next kind of signature shoe. Yeah, it was really bad.

SPEAKER_03 1:45:01

Line of good investments you've made over time. I only bought one colorway of the LeBron. No, I bought two colorways, the launch colorway, which I ended up reselling for a shit ton of money, like 400 bucks. And then um the Christmas one, the Grinch colorway. Yeah, because it looks like a Grinch. It does LeBron 20 Christmas, whatever. But it looks like a Grinch. Uh, but people obviously hate LeBron.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:27

So and uh not his they don't like his shoes. This was a good this was a good episode, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:34

It was fun.

SPEAKER_03 1:45:34

Yeah, it's it's good when her Kari's not around, even though this was his idea to have an episode tonight. This doesn't look like a Grinch, by the way. It's just it's Christmas.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:44

I have it sitting here. I can pull it out of the case if you really want.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:48

I'm looking looking at it on the screen right here.

SPEAKER_03 1:45:50

I don't have to you have it in a case. You are one of the few people that waste a clear plastic case on a under-retail LeBron shoe.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:59

I have I have all the 20s, and it's like a huge section of my do you you kept the regular boxes too somewhere?

SPEAKER_03 1:46:07

I hope.

SPEAKER_01 1:46:08

Yep. Do you think it's a good one? I thought I could offload it. No, I don't. What are you keeping like? I literally put them in box. No, I do something even worse. Um, I put the box box them all up in big boxes, and then I put them in my storage unit. Can I tell you?

SPEAKER_03 1:46:25

I did that with my boxes when I lived in my apartment with my wife. I put them in. We had a storage cage downstairs, but I put I didn't put them in boxes, I put them in garbage bags. So I stacked them up in garbage bags and just threw them in there. I didn't want so because people would break into the storage units if they saw like valuable shit, because they were like just cages, so you can see everything in there. So I put luggage and stuff in there, but I put stuff like valuable stuff in the luggage. Um, but that those things I just kept them inside of um whatever. And bro, I used to fuck with people. I bought like by uh when I bought my PlayStation and my Xbox, I just left the empty box on top of the fucking storage cage. Motherfuckers used to go. I like one day I went down there and I saw the box like opened and and and it was funny, yeah. Anywho, that has been another 12 hub podcast, the Drew Hugh edition. Shout out to Kari for um getting us to all come together and not showing up. So uh we'll see y'all next week. And uh yeah, that's it.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:31

And let's get another uh raised on rewind schedule.

SPEAKER_03 1:47:34

I you said you would come up with a topic though this week, this time.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:37

I have topics I I floated out. I was like cell phones, beepers, we could do music.

SPEAKER_03 1:47:43

I'm not a beeper guy. I didn't get my first opening.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:48

This is what I'm talking about. I wasn't rich like you. This is exactly what I'm talking about. I wasn't rich, I just sold drugs. Um exactly. You the hood rich. I was resourceful.

SPEAKER_03 1:47:57

I mean, I had long hair.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:58

This is what I'm talking about. And you're like, you're supposed to be coming out with an idea, and I come up with an idea, and you're like, I didn't fuck with that. I'm not saying I'm a winning, I just don't winning.

SPEAKER_03 1:48:07

Fuck am I gonna talk about? Like, oh yeah, music then. We could talk about music and concerts and videos. I mean, we listen to different shit. Just because I like one megadeth song don't mean I'm a we listen to everything, dude.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:19

I was rocking, you know, in 88 when the and the jungle brothers, when that when the jungle brothers dropped their fucking shout out to changed my trajectory in music. That album I will house you.

SPEAKER_03 1:48:32

Which ones? Uh uh Straight Out of Africa or whatever. Yeah. Is that the first one? Yeah, no, it wasn't called Straight Out of Africa. I think it was called something like that. Jungle Brothers. I'm looking it up right now. You don't even know the name of the album. I don't know the name now. Can I listen to it? Straight out of the jungle, straight out of Straight of the Jungle, 1988. I knew it. See, I was right. I was sort of right.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:52

I had my favorite system in my room.

SPEAKER_03 1:48:54

Like fucking huge.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:56

I mean, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:48:57

Best Jungle Brothers album to me is Raw Deluxe, the one where they tried to make their comeback in '97. They had a song on there called Um You might. I mean, you shit. I can't remember. I'm in here looking at it right now. Uh Jungle Brothers bringing it. I have to go. Now I want to get this thing, this song. It was called Um Oh, maybe it wasn't this album. Bring it on, Jungle Brothers, move along. Toe-to-toe, black. No, there was Blue Balls. It's not about balls or something. I forgot what it was fucking called. Damn it. I don't remember. It was the Oh, it's the album that came out in '93. JB's with the Red. No, it had to be Raw Deluxe. Yeah, I'm gonna be listening to Jungle Brothers all weekend to find this fucking song. You sure is? Oh, Jimmy Ways. My Jimmy Weighs a ton. That was off of their third album. Um uh JB's with the Rhythm. Remedy. I'm sorry, Rhythm with the Rhythm. Yeah, my Jimmy Weighs a Ton. Great song. That's like the and Girl Out Housie. Off their first album, which is like their little house, hip hip house collab. Um, which I don't was it on this album, or it was the second album, Girl Owl House You. I think it was the second album. I think you're right. Yeah, Girl Owl House You. You in my house now. You in my hut now. Something like that. See? Shout out to JB's. Yeah, it was a hut, yeah. So you so jungle brother, that first album you don't know any, you didn't even know the name of it, was one of your favorite albums. Shut up. I'm out of here. Yeah, we'll talk. We'll talk. Let's uh figure out something and and we'll we'll we'll do something.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:36

I'll throw some ideas out there by tomorrow.

SPEAKER_03 1:50:38

All right, brother. All right, have a good night. Have a good night.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:42

Later.