The 12 Hub Podcast
Welcome to The 12Hub Sneaker Podcast – Where kicks, culture, and convos collide.
Hosted by Hugh Mulzac, Dakari Boddie & Mike Wavs, The 12Hub is more than just another sneaker podcast. It’s a space where we break down the latest drops, unbox the grails, and talk about what sneakers really mean in the bigger picture — music, identity, hustle, and legacy.
Each week, we tap in with collectors, creatives, entrepreneurs, and everyday heads who keep the culture moving. From wild stories in the resale game to navigating life, family, and business — we keep it real, insightful, and unapologetically rooted in the culture.
The 12 Hub Podcast
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The sneaker resale market is changing fast. We break down liquidating massive shoe collections and Nike's anti-bot rules.
In this unfiltered look at modern street culture and media infrastructure, we deconstruct the macro shifts flattening the hyper-premium footwear economy. As veteran collectors pivot toward liquidating high-volume archives—including iconic silhouettes like Jordan retros, Dunks, and rare player-exclusive Kobes—the broader secondary marketplace faces a structural correction. We analyze the operational realities of Nike’s updated direct-to-consumer terms, exploring how restocking friction, stringent purchase limits, and bot mitigation frameworks dismantled the artificial scarcity driving the pandemic-era resale bubble. Beyond footwear, the discussion shifts to intellectual property monetization across the entertainment landscape, examining corporate litigation trends like the Chrome Hearts trademark dispute and strategic equity divestments typified by Drake's OVO brand exploration with major holding firms. Finally, we pull back the curtain on algorithmic distribution mechanics across modern social media platforms, exploring creator monetization limits, digital footprint security, and the psychological grind of corporate enterprise models.
Time Stamps:
00:00 – The Devil’s Lettuce & Late Night Podcasting
01:45 – Liquidating a 350-Pair Sneaker Collection
02:30 – Hitting on the Kobe Grinch Size 12.5 Shock Drop
04:00 – Reverse Grinches & Flipping Footwear Collections
06:30 – Getting Torched in the YouTube Comments Sections
10:45 – Why You Can Never Go Back from YouTube Premium
11:45 – Old Tech Pioneers: Spotify vs Pandora Early Days
14:30 – Is the Spotify Recommendation Algorithm Broken?
15:10 – The Vans vs Louis Vuitton Silhouette Copycat Debate
17:40 – Virgil Abloh’s Legendary Genius Design Run
18:40 – Sizing Up the Nigel Sylvester Air Jordan 1 Low Bike Air
23:35 – World Cup Buzz & International Tourism Energy Dynamics
25:10 – The Unhinged National Media Reflecting Pool Conspiracy Breakdown
31:30 – Adidas Crazy 2: Is This the Ugliest Signature Shoe Ever?
35:50 – Is Chrome Hearts Suing Nordstrom Over an Ambiguous Cross?
41:20 – Creative Differentiators & Elite Narrative Storytelling
42:45 – The Dallas Art District Urinal Incident Exposed
48:05 – NBA Draft Live Reactions: Wizards, Trae Young, & Number One Picks
49:30 – Drake Selling 50% Stake in OVO to Authentic Brands Group
51:00 – Assets vs Cash: Gold-Plated Mansions & Free Stake Gambling Deals
53:15 – Artists Building Companies Around Valuable IP
55:40 – Will OVO Clothing Brand Survive If It Hits Bloomingdale’s?
1:01:15 – Did Nike’s Updated Return Policy Actually Kill Sneaker Bots?
1:07:00 – Why the Pandemic Sparked a False Hype Economy
1:08:50 – Predatory TikTok Live Algorithms and Product Mis-categorization
1:10:45 – Why Growing Up Gen-X Means You Don't Know How to Play Uno
1:12:00 – Bulk Sneaker Buyers: How to Avoid Getting Smashed on Volume Offers
1:13:40 – Dual Security Setup: Protecting a Premium Home Archive
1:15:30 – New Balance 993 Made in USA Burgundy Performance Evaluation
1:17:15 – Kanye West Delux Bully Release Featuring Lauryn Hill
1:18:25 – Luxury Watch Movements & Swatch Polymer Licensing Complications
1:23:45 – French Connection UK Subliminal Marketing Legacies
1:26:30 – Short-Sleeve Button Downs & The Tony Soprano Resort Aesthetic
1:28:40 – Clueless Yellow Plaid Air Force 1 Retro Collectibles
1:32:30 – The Anti-Black Sock Agenda vs Elite Multicolored Gym Accessories
1:36:50 – Shutting Down Instagram Pages with Verifiable Music Industry Facts
1:39:40 – Pundits vs Influencers: Embracing Community Audiences
1:45:10 – The Platinum Card Lounge Grind: Centurion Food vs Airline Slop
1:48:30 – Rented Convertibles & How Credit Karma Alert Scams Drop Your Score
1:51:10 – Pulled Over by an Unmarked Truck Cop in Texas
1:53:50 – Car Content Masterminds: Doug DeMuro’s Quirks and Features
1:57:40 – Weak Corporate Generations vs Grinding Through Workspace Pressure
2:10:00 – Managing Stability Across 3800-Person Technical Scale Programs
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SPEAKER_05Hello. Oh, here we are. 12 of the podcast. Episode 57. 57. Let's go. Isn't a Cleveland Cavaliers hat?
SPEAKER_04No, it's a cookie's hat.
SPEAKER_05Oh.
SPEAKER_04Cookies, baby. You love the cookies. I love the cookies. I love cookies. Cookies are good. Cookies are really good. Not those kind of cookies.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04You don't know cookies, the brand? I know cookies the brand. You wear it all the time. I know. It's a reference to something else. It's the devil's lettuce.
SPEAKER_05Devil's lettuce. When you said that, I never heard anybody. I've heard people refer to Madawana as lettuce, but I know the devil's lettuce. I gotta add the extra, the extra on it.
SPEAKER_04I I don't know. It just kind of feels appropriate. Why not?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04So what would you like to what would you like me to refer to it as? Ganja, weed, pot, marijuana, Mary Jane.
SPEAKER_05Don't wet. Don't care. I don't do any of it. Drugs are bad. Drugs are bad. Drugs are bad. Yeah, unless unless you crash out and want to do the drugs. You know, it's your last resort.
SPEAKER_04Unless we go out in a blaze of glory. People do it all the time. Uh hey, I've lost many. I've lost many. My week sucks so far, to be honest. It's been a really bad week, and it's only Tuesday. So really. Yeah. I got a lot of stress. A lot of stress. Work is very stressful.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Well, yeah. I've come off with pretty good three weeks of um progress. Uh the second half of this year is looking brighter. Let's say. That's good. But right now, right now I'm liquidating my shoe collection.
SPEAKER_04I want to talk about that. So I I don't know what type of collector you are, but I think I do. I I think I'm the very opposite of what you are. I get extreme anxiety selling my shoes.
SPEAKER_05I do when it's something that I don't. I don't. I've been able to sell whatever the fuck. I I don't care because and look, right now the only shoe I'm like holding on to for dear life is my Kobe Grinch. Just because I'm looking at them like these might never come out again. Even though I know that they're gonna put them out sometime near the future, I'm pretty sure. But it's a size 12 and a half. I hit on it, so they have they make like five, twelve and a half. I don't even know how I got that. I didn't even it was a shock drop. I remember the only uh yeah, the first time they retroed them was a shock drop in the afternoon. You remember this? It was like 2020.
SPEAKER_04I do. I didn't hit on them though. I was bitter.
SPEAKER_05Was it about Christmas time? I don't remember.
SPEAKER_04I'm pretty sure it was.
SPEAKER_05I don't I don't know. I I just went in for size 12 and a half because I I was like at that time I was like, I want to wear all my shoes, so I heard Kobe's fit a little snug, so I got a 12 and a half and I hit and I was like, oh shit, got them.
SPEAKER_04And I got the red on Christmas Day.
SPEAKER_05That was a Christmas day drop?
SPEAKER_04Wow. 2010.
SPEAKER_05No, no, no, no, no, no. No, I'm talking like the original Nike 6.
SPEAKER_04Oh, the the reverse.
SPEAKER_05No, no, no, no. No. They retroed them in 2020. And it was it was a shock drop. There was two, there was two different shock drops. There was another one a couple of years later.
SPEAKER_04Alright, I see what you're right. I was thinking the OG. I didn't realize that.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, they gave those out as a uh the people who had courtside seats got pairs.
SPEAKER_04I still don't have that pair. Although I will say I hit I hit on four pairs of the reverse Grinches in store, like two different stores. This is crazy.
SPEAKER_05Oh, nice. Did you sell them all?
SPEAKER_04Or you gave them away? No, I still have them all.
SPEAKER_05Seriously? Shit.
SPEAKER_04If you ever bought up from three pairs. Uh I gave the 13 to Travis and then I have three other three 12s, yeah. They're they're snug though.
SPEAKER_05Shit, I might sell mine and buy a pair from you when I get some more bread up. Hold on to one pair from me. I'll pay for it. Not retail, I'll pay you a little more than retail. Because I'm about to sell mine. Gee, thanks. What are you selling them for, by the way? Uh they're going for like $4.50 right now. Uh in our size. I'll sell it to you for $449. Nice. It's always a good thing. $4.49. Yeah, I owe you. Actually, I now since we're, you know, you told me about um the such gracious gifts that you're giving me. I'm I'm going to return the favor with something even more gracious and more spectacular. You'll see it when you get it. You're gonna be like, why the fuck did he give me this? That's crazy. I don't want anything.
SPEAKER_04Who would give this away? I don't want you to send me anything. I'm just sending it to you because I thought about you when I got it. So that's what we do, and that's that's part of the culture.
SPEAKER_05But you wanted that shoe too. I did. I have a pair. Oh, you got a pair too? I don't even know. See, now that you now that you're back in the um in the working class. I I just keep that I now I see how you really spend money. Because I got I I caught you on the tail end of the you know, the the affluence, and I didn't really know your hat, you know, what you was doing. Now it's just like, oh, I bought five pairs. I don't give a fuck. You didn't talk about me.
SPEAKER_04I didn't get any shoes this week. So this was all you've been talking about me.
SPEAKER_05Y'all y'all motherfuckers talk like I spend money. This guy, he is oh, cookies is 19 t-shirts. I bought 20 of them.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, they're like 20 bucks, 30 bucks, or it's not like high-end shit here. Pigeon just dropped. Although it's it's not like the uh come on, Janet with Alf. Who made that? That cookies too? No, I don't know. I never's Element Elements, the company. Oh no, they make all these graphic T too much. Come on. Janet T.
SPEAKER_05I'm old. I can't be wearing shit like that.
SPEAKER_04I'm older and I still wear uh I get I get torched in the comments about my outfits, so it's fine. Do you? My hat. Everyone has a problem with the way I wear my hat.
SPEAKER_05People wear their hats like that all the time. I never saw a problem with it. I didn't when I first met you, I was like, oh, he likes to. I thought you were just part of that fit, and then I saw you wear all your hats like that, and I was like, whatever, I'm used to seeing it now. I don't care.
SPEAKER_04I used to curl them, like curl them up, but they got I stopped doing that.
SPEAKER_05The Japanese made like a like a hat like this that's versatile. You can like it's it's the brim is it's it's weird, it's very pliable, but it stays in place. But it's got a short brim, sort of like a I don't know, I'll send you a link. I was looking at it, I was I was almost gonna buy it. It's sort of a military style, like a little flappy. But I was just like, I don't know if that's gonna fit my head in Japanese, it's got weird sizing.
SPEAKER_04Speaking of hats, I picked up that Supreme Fitted from the other drop. Like it had the floral print on it. I didn't realize the hat was like silk. It's like an ugly grandma curve. No, it's like silk. Oh. Like legit, like silk. I I can't probably grab it if it's a fitted hat. Yeah, fitted.
SPEAKER_05I'd like to see this. Let me see if it's the this one, the last drop? I'm on the website right now.
SPEAKER_04Two drops ago?
SPEAKER_05Oh, it's not on the side. Oh, I remember what you're talking about. Did you pick up anything from last week?
SPEAKER_04I did actually. I like Spitfire just because it of the um I picked up the hat, the black and white hat.
SPEAKER_05And I picked up the uh that's that's definitely your style.
SPEAKER_04The hoodie.
SPEAKER_05The zip-up. I thought the hoodie was super dope. I wanted to get a couple of these hats, but they all sold out. I like this black one here. Yeah, I can't wear this. All of it? Yeah, I can imagine. I don't know what else is coming out this season that's worth buying.
SPEAKER_04There's some interesting stuff dropping this week. I saw a part of the lookbook. I didn't know. Not great. Lots of t-shirts this week. Oh, that's like a big t-shirt drop.
SPEAKER_05The coats are oh, it's the one where they have the like the $40 Ts. I think so. The graphics. Yeah. I picked up a couple. Oh, I got those snowman ones. I gotta sell all that stuff. Yeah, I wanted to get one of these ashtrays. I got the black one still in the stock. I don't mind the black. I did want to get this, but it did not. I I didn't think about it. I was like, where am I gonna put that? It's gonna take up my whole pool. It's just a floaty. Oh, it's just a float. Put it on the lake. And it comes with a ball? It comes with a beach ball, bro.
SPEAKER_04Dang, man. It would look good in the pool.
SPEAKER_05It's gonna take up the whole pool. Everybody be looking at me crazy.
SPEAKER_04And I don't have a drone. Can you have too much Supreme drip? Can you have too much Supreme?
SPEAKER_05Wait, it's still available.
SPEAKER_04There you go. It's destiny. Don't buy it.
SPEAKER_05I'm not buying that shit, man. I ain't got no money.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I just picked up a drone.
SPEAKER_05This guy. This I want. I wouldn't mind having a Supreme battery pack. They've restocked these. I might cop one. Get that one, my floaty. All right. I'll leave those in the cart if they're still here when I get back. Keep chopping. It's a Mofi too. Mofi's a good product. It's only 5,000 milliamp hours. It was 10,000. That'll be a jump up.
SPEAKER_04Be better.
SPEAKER_05Hell yeah, it would be better. You know, keep your phone charged three times a day. Fucking hell. I don't know.
SPEAKER_04My phone doesn't uh I get pretty good battery life.
SPEAKER_05Oh, you got the Pro Max, though. Like, yeah, we all got the Pro Max. I don't I'd never have to charge my phone. If I I could be out all day, never have to charge it. But I don't think it's a good one.
SPEAKER_04I run beta software, so it it drains the battery faster. So I I can't get a quite a full day. I hear you. Plus, I'm a heavy user. I'm always on my phone.
SPEAKER_05So I'm not on my phone like I used to be, man. Kind of text a little bit. Kinda. I don't I have no no alerts. So text messages, emails come through, but texts and stuff. Any distraction, it's turned off.
SPEAKER_04I listen to a lot of YouTube. Me too. Like a lot of on my phone anyway.
SPEAKER_05Oh, that premium account comes in clutch, right? With that fucking oh yeah. Oh my god. Bro, when I canceled it, I canceled it for a little bit. I can't I can't go back. Joe, I can't either. I every time I shut off the screen, I'm like, why can't I hear anything anymore? And I look down like fuck. And I have to turn back on the screen and flip it back into portrait.
SPEAKER_04I can't do it. I can't do it. It's like Spotify. Oh yeah, you can't get rid of it. You can't deal with the ads.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Or just the having Spotify, period, because if you're like people know this, but Spotify was before Apple Music to most tech people, that's techie people. So we were using it when it was free on your desktop. Were you using it on desktop?
SPEAKER_04So I go way back to Pandora when Pandora was like one of the first streaming apps for free music.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. I'd never well, I had Pandora, I didn't particularly care for it though. I did I was an early adopter of Spotify though. So they had the music on there. But the cool part about Spotify was that you could you at that time you could integrate your Apple music. Remember, Apple used to be iTunes and all that. So I used to move all my iTunes into there and had a local file with all these unreleased songs. So I made all these cool playlists, and they're just there. I have a playlist that goes all the way back to 2010.
SPEAKER_04So I did work for Spotify. I was in New York. Crazy place to work. I'll never forget. I was in there, I was I was interviewing that day, and they took me out to like the lunchroom, and Yclef was literally spinning. Like during lunch, he's just standing there, like freaking playing records and shit. I was like, oh my god. When were US Bob? This is awesome. Gosh, I want to say 10 years ago.
SPEAKER_05Oh, you might have run into my guy. Um shit, he's working a startup with me. Oh my god. How do I forget his name? I'm gonna look him up right now while we're talking.
SPEAKER_04I forget all the names. It it feels like you remember this guy, he wore glasses.
SPEAKER_05Kind of reminds me of you, but a little more like he was from Virginia.
SPEAKER_04I was only there for a short stint. I had a short, small contract with them to do some agile work.
SPEAKER_05Oh, okay. Uh, you probably didn't work with him. He was on the um dev side, but also helped uh he was the guy who came up with the algorithms, the the good algorithms that actually picked good music for you. It's crazy.
SPEAKER_04But uh now Spotify, I have to say the algorithm, I feel like it's not very good anymore. I get the same music over and over and over again. And I'm a heavy Spotify user.
SPEAKER_05So me too. The only thing that's good is when you put it on Shuffle Discovery, it'll start playing good stuff that you probably haven't heard before or music within your taste realm. That's how I discovered a lot of my Griselda and like um what's his name? A boogie with the hoodie, all that shit started popping up. I listened to some of that stuff because it mixes it in with your taste, and I was like, oh, that's cool. But when you want to listen to your own shit on shuffle, it will literally run through the same 15, 20 songs and on re like I don't why do you keep doing that? It's so weird. It's always done.
SPEAKER_04Same with the you ever use the DJ?
SPEAKER_05No.
SPEAKER_04Uh so that it'll pick like genres of music and play like a random set of songs, but it the algorithm with that seems to be on repeat because literally every time I use it. Anyway, I I haven't been listening to music, I've just been so bored with new music. I just don't know.
SPEAKER_05Have you? I've listened to way more music. Yeah, I I don't know why. I think since the Drake album came out, I've been like obsessed with listening to music again because that album's been so good to me. Um, but I gotta listen to it.
SPEAKER_04I only know the one song just because of social.
SPEAKER_05Baby. Get that copyright. Oh, the shebang song, too. That's a good song. So that's one of the topics, but people are fucking horrible. Actually, it was one of the topics, wasn't it? Planned to destroy these song. All right, well, no, no, it wasn't. Oh, yeah, OVO. Sound like, but we'll talk about that later. I actually the big thing that everybody's talking about, and um, I was about to give um homie uh Kari Jenkins, or whatever his name is, um, sneaker fetish some props. But a couple of people pointed out that the Vans ain't a new thing uh with the Pharrell stuff. So uh I was gonna play his video, but we're not gonna do that now. And I looked, I did my own research, okay, into this whole copycat thing. So props to Vans, though. I'll give them this much credit. Them hopping on, like, oh, you're biting us is dope. That was dope. And they use the uh the clip song Mr. Me Too. But they should also, you know, Louis Vuitton or whoever should, you know, post up a little clip with a a pro Ked in there, too. Because that's a van is basically a a KED. And and and you can even go further back, there's a couple other like shoes that look like that, uh, you know, that sit a little more uh not low profile. So the copycat thing, I I just kind of it's weird because when Virgil did it when he was with Louis Vuitton, they loved it. Oh, he he he the the Avia 880, they did that on the um Louis Vuitton high top basketball shoe. They the the Adidas Stan Smith bit the whole fucking thing and just added some texture, like some like you know what I'm saying? And I'm looking at it like you can't you you call this man a genius for basically biting those those silhouettes, and then you're you're you're well if keds didn't say anything, I don't think social media would have gone crazy over it. But it's good marketing for both sides because now people are gonna look at they're gonna go buy an old canvas red ked and pretend it's a Louis Vuitton or paint their LVs on it, whatever they want to do.
SPEAKER_04Hey, at least it's cheap.
SPEAKER_05Shit, those like 20 bucks, 25 bucks. Keds are super. I mean, not kids, I mean the vans, those vans, not the 60 bucks, the cheapest 60 bucks.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, okay, or you could pick them up for 35, like on StockX, but for the most part, I think retail they're 60 bucks at vans.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, so I mean, I I think it was funny, but people are talking about it like crazy today. I'm not I'm over it at this point because those those things, they're not my style anyway. They're red, right? They're red, like gator skin looking type of shoes. Yeah, not for me. Yeah, especially at that price point. I did like the stuff that Virgil did, though, man. There's a couple of man, there's the last run, the 2022 run, the one where they put out the the the season they put out after he passed away, those sneakers, man. I was so close to buying a pair. I was at the Louis store and I was like, I'm gonna get these. But I looked at it, I was like, they were like 1400 bucks, I think, or 1200. I don't know. I was like, I'm never gonna wear these, bro. Because I don't even wear shoes that I paid $150 for that are fire, you know what I mean? And I'm just like, nah, I ain't gonna do it. I ain't gonna do it.
SPEAKER_04I don't, I don't have uh I never like I have designer work shoes, but I never got into like designer shoes. Like, yeah, like I have a pair of Gucci's sneakers that are awesome, super comfortable, but that's it. That's the only designer sneaker I have.
SPEAKER_05Do you have this is off topic? Sorry, do you have the Nigel Jordan 1 Lowe's? No, do you want those?
SPEAKER_04Yes, yeah, no, no, you do the bike airs, yeah. I have them.
SPEAKER_05Not the bike, two pairs, the little Jordan one. Yeah, oh you have two pairs.
SPEAKER_04I do.
SPEAKER_05Hold on to those for me too, because I'm about to sell mine. Yes, sir. I could be your vault. I'll be your storage locker. Oh, people, you don't understand when you're trying like liquidating your shoes and still wanting to keep some of them. Like once I let it go, so now I can let it go for 250. Somebody offered me 250 for them and let them go.
SPEAKER_04Dang, they came down that much.
SPEAKER_05No, they're like 280. They've been around 280 the whole time. So getting rid of my all of my Jordan 11s, which I don't wear. All that shit, man. Sad times, but you know, you gotta do it sometimes.
SPEAKER_04Hey, it's always good to flip the collection every now and again.
SPEAKER_05So a circle of life. That's what they call it, right?
SPEAKER_04All right, Simba.
SPEAKER_05Yo, this motherfucker, now they lowballed it. They went 247. You know what I mean? I'm gonna go 255 on you. I'm gonna go 265. Your bitch ass is gonna buy it too. You can be like, nah, I ain't playing this game. Actually, I'm gonna go 270. I'm gonna go 270. Fuck this. Anyway. Uh, so that goes on. Uh, did you pick up anything?
SPEAKER_04Good. I didn't. I haven't picked up anything. I've been I've been slow on the spend, and there hasn't been a ton of stuff to pick up. I haven't I haven't been looking a lot. I'm trying to limit my access so I don't get tempted to buy because I want to reach back and buy some stuff, but yeah, it's good to not have to.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I'm um I gotta get rid of stuff. I I just have to. Like I really have to force myself to get rid of stuff.
SPEAKER_05Same here. I was I was gonna wear my Jake Ben Coke coat that I bought during the show last week. It came in. Supreme, like when there's nothing good on the site for the week, they they ship fast. They ship that shit the day after I purchased. I was like, what? Other weeks they took them like a whole week to just ship it out, and I didn't get it till later. Uh, but yeah, this thing came in. It's nice. Uh I'll wear it next week when Kari's back. The the hooded jacket, and I got this the zip-up sweater. And then I haven't. Let me see. Oh, I bought well, I talked about those last week on Nike. I wanted to go for those UNC, the black, black fives or whatever this weekend. Um just slipped my mind.
SPEAKER_04But if you have the metallics, I mean it's it's the same shoe with just the jump man in blue. I'm about to get them, I'm about to sell the metallics. They still going for like 500. I don't know. I I don't I don't know. I I haven't worn mine yet. I do like the metallics, though.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I'm gonna sell those. I don't wear black shoes, so anything coming out this week? They're still in stock on the website. It's crazy. Oh no, it says it's sold out. Yeah, there's nothing.
SPEAKER_04There's nothing dropping this week. I'm taking a look myself. It's been, you know, I'm happy. I'm happy it's been quiet. Uh, I ain't mad at it. Saves me some anxiety.
SPEAKER_05See what the release calendar brick by bricks they went down in price.
SPEAKER_04So you have the big bubble, the 95 Big Bubble woven multi.
SPEAKER_05This is on sneakers, or you're looking on a that's coming out tomorrow.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Well, I'm looking on Soul Retriever.
SPEAKER_05Oh, I'll put on the screen.
SPEAKER_04Got a new balance 1890. That van's is kind of cool.
SPEAKER_05I entered a raffle for some vans. Uh this is gonna get them. Oh, the the undefeated wild raffle for uh that van thing. That's interesting. I didn't I didn't see that.
SPEAKER_04Oh, there's a lot of a lot of cleats coming out. These look like the ones they dropped uh that were reminiscent of the Chanel bag. The other release they did.
SPEAKER_05Chanel's Chanels. Beep beep baby. I'm about to share my screen real quick. Yeah, there ain't nothing really dropping, man. Super quiet.
SPEAKER_04It's good. It's real.
SPEAKER_05Save your pockets. These are the ones, the souvenirs. I went for these. Yeah, those vans. Yeah, it's a dope pair. Undefeated had them early, and I didn't get them. I just saw a random. I don't. I'm not this colorful big bubble bullshit. I don't like that. I saw that um, what's his name? John sent that through the group chat. I didn't like it then. Yeah, I don't know.
SPEAKER_04I just don't like 95s hurt my feet. I always get blisters, so I don't wear them. Well, fucking don't you have a picture? I mean, literally, there's like nothing.
SPEAKER_05There is nothing. They don't even have pictures of nothing here. It's like crazy.
SPEAKER_04A lot of cleats. Like all of a sudden it dried up.
SPEAKER_05You've been following World Cup?
SPEAKER_04No, I haven't. And it's three, like three, three miles from my crib. So I just got my eye on the case. Yeah, I'm just kinda I'm not a huge I'm a huge sports fan, but I'm just it's hard for me to get into soccer. I don't know why. I just it's hard to watch. I just can't. I don't know if it's hard to watch. It's just not something I I didn't play it. I just didn't watch it ever. So I don't know. It's just I haven't spent any time to to kind of watch the game. I did I watch it in the Olympics.
SPEAKER_05Who are you? Who are you rooting for though?
SPEAKER_04I mean, I gotta go U.S.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04How do you not root for the U.S.? I mean, I guess you're not wrong.
SPEAKER_05Right? Well, at least they like the U.S. hockey team.
SPEAKER_04I don't know. The Knicks are going to visit the White House.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, they got invited. That doesn't mean everybody's gonna go. We shall see. We'll see. Yeah, we'll see. We shall see. Yeah. I'm rooting for U.S. Um Morocco and Holland.
SPEAKER_04It's terrible what they're doing to the Iranian team, though.
SPEAKER_05Mm-hmm. They deported something or some shit? I don't remember.
SPEAKER_04No, they're not letting them. They they're only allowed in the States 24 hours before the game. And then they have to fly back to like Canada or something.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Look, I don't run this government, I guess. All right. You're probably you're probably the uh reflecting pool vandal. You're probably out there with your box cutter cutting shit up on the bottom.
SPEAKER_05Such a stupid mess. Let's talk about that for a second, because that's uh seems to be a hot topic. Like, have you been okay? Look, I have my two cents on this, I'm gonna put it out there. That reflecting pond has been a piece of shit since its inception. It leaks about, I believe, they said 560 million gallons of water a year or 56 of them. One of those big numbers. The maintenance bill on it is in the tens of millions every year. Uh and the extra shit that he did to it, I is I mean, it was cute while it lasted, they could have done a better job, but also it was pointless because again, you hire a shitty contractor, shitty contractor's gonna do a shitty job.
SPEAKER_04So you see the contractor? Have you seen a picture?
SPEAKER_05It looks like Paul Bear, yeah. He looks like Paul Bear. Shout out to Paul.
SPEAKER_04He looks like every like 50s gangster with slick back hair. I mean, it's just such a look. Oh man, what a time. Here's what I can't understand. And I I I've been watching a lot of this, but how how do you go on national TV and say it was vandalism when literally what a couple weeks before you were saying it was impenetrable? Like you couldn't penetrate it with yeah, that's exactly the guy. You can't can't penetrate, you can't cut it with a box cutter or a knife. I mean, who's jumping in the fucking reflecting pool cutting the bottom? I mean, what you don't think dumping hundreds of gallons of hydrogen peroxide had anything to do with the fact that it's a chemical reaction, and when sunlight hits it, it changes it and freaking causes that to happen. I mean, just take a fucking basic chemistry class and you would know. It's ridiculous.
SPEAKER_05Look, I don't run the government. I just sit on the sidelines and spectate.
SPEAKER_04At least this is what this is what's consuming our time. Like, honestly, is deploying like who cares? My gosh, it's it's always gonna have algae, it's still water.
SPEAKER_05It's just the cope that bothers me with these people now. It's just so like you know you're wrong. And a lot of people are coming to their senses, but the ones that are sticking around for the ride, it's sad, man. Like, you saw that man out there, like, oh I gotta like all conspiracy theories, this and this and this. And it's like, y'all people will ride till the death just to prove.
SPEAKER_04Cameras everywhere.
SPEAKER_05Like, what do you what point are you proving with all of this nonsense? Like, all of it, regardless of it's it's it's the war stuff, the pawn stuff, the the the the endless corruption. Like what are you unbelievable? What's your it's it's blatant outright. It's like he just doesn't give a fuck.
SPEAKER_04He really doesn't.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, he doesn't. He knows he's gonna die soon or go to jail. So what's the point? Who cares? Let's rig the elect. Like, honestly, I think the best thing he can do for this country is not just die, but also just like just be like, all right, you know what, we'll just give it back. I know I I fucked up some things, but you know, I'm gonna give something back to the people. Let's have a fair election and watch this whole thing burn down that we that I created. Like that I mean, he's not gonna do that. He's looking out for his kids and all that shit.
SPEAKER_04He'll never concede to anything. He never has and never will.
SPEAKER_05I mean you'd be surprised what can happen with some old age. But again, I'm not I'm not a supporter of the man. I don't really I find it scary everything he says and does. But it's kind of it's kind of funny some of the stuff now.
SPEAKER_04Well, he's on the press conference. Yeah, yeah. On the press conference yesterday, the the um one of the reporters pressed him and said, Do you have any proof that someone vandalized the the reflecting pool? And he's like, Yeah, I got proof. The proof is the 350-foot cut in the in the in the bottom in the in the paint, like the the the security cameras and catch. Right? What are you talking about? There's no proof of any of it. So he's just making shit up, like literally on the fly.
SPEAKER_05Hey, look, I don't I don't make the rules around here. I just just uh I just find this all entertaining. And I digress. We digress. It is sad, it is sad times. Shout out to Reflecting Pond, though. Can't wait. Might be moving back to DC. Go check it out uh when it's fixed, I hope. Man, going back to the East Coast. Oh, look at this. Uh, I just got a story from USA Today. They're draining the pond. They're draining this pond, finally.
SPEAKER_04They're gonna do it again, they're gonna paint it again.
SPEAKER_05Paint it again. Okay, they didn't learn their lesson the first time.
SPEAKER_04Well, they're gonna repair it. I don't know how you repair it.
SPEAKER_05They should just bring it back to what it was before, leaky and non-algae up.
SPEAKER_04I just seriously, there's so much other shit going on. Like that I could care less about the reflection.
SPEAKER_05I mean, World Cup. Yeah, World Cup has been a thing.
SPEAKER_04Unfortunately. I have to say, I haven't felt much of the buzz, and it's you know You're not a soccer guy or or a flawable guy. Even where I live, there's not much of a buzz, and I live real close to the stadium.
SPEAKER_05I live real close to the stadium, though. It doesn't matter, you're gonna have to do people coming. Nah, the locals are the ones that make the energy. The tourists just go there and tourist. You know this.
SPEAKER_04Although Catherine's selling her FIFA jackets, so that's good. She made FIFA jackets? She did.
SPEAKER_05I'd like to see FIFA jackets, maybe. Are they hand painted?
SPEAKER_04They are.
SPEAKER_05Oh, I'm gonna have to check one out.
SPEAKER_04She's been doing a lot of custom work for clients.
SPEAKER_05Nice.
SPEAKER_04Shout out to Kat. Shout out to Kat.
SPEAKER_05What are they doing here? This is oh god, I'm looking on uh sneaker or whatever. These people there's none of this shit.
SPEAKER_04It's like I don't know what's going on.
SPEAKER_05Look at this shit. Why did they do the Kobe uh oh wow yeah, there it is.
SPEAKER_04Wow, what is that's like a I don't what the fuck is that?
SPEAKER_05You've never seen this? The Kobe uh whatever the case.
SPEAKER_04I haven't seen them, but why are they retroing?
SPEAKER_05Crazy, crazy too. He actually wore these in a game.
SPEAKER_04That looks like AI.
SPEAKER_05No, it's real. They're putting this, they're bringing this out, yeah.
unknownMan.
SPEAKER_04I betcha they'll sell.
SPEAKER_05I wonder. I have a pair of the Laker colorway.
SPEAKER_04Uh I don't like that silhouette at all.
SPEAKER_05It's just goofy. They said this is one of the ugliest shoes ever made. Uh, it looks like a clog. Like a clog um shell toe. We're looking at the crazy two, by the way. The Adidas Crazy 2. Kobe's second signature or first signature of Adidas, I don't know. But yeah, that thing is coming out. Um, June something. Can we believe it's July 4th already?
SPEAKER_04I can't. I I really this uh the summer's been blown by. Blown by.
SPEAKER_05I smoked some food this weekend. I made um some oxtails on the smoker, which came out phenomenally. I am so proud of myself. Uh best oxtails I ever made off the smoker. And I brazed them in the uh Instapot. I still use an Instapot because it's very practical. Fall off the bone, delicious. You know, I put a little browning in it, a little Jamaican.
SPEAKER_04Not a huge oxtail fan. Not my I grew up on the food.
SPEAKER_05I grew up on it when it was like throwaway food. Now that it's a delicacy, I feel like it's uh it's overrated because it's really a shitty, fatty piece of meat.
SPEAKER_04That's why you gotta cook it so long.
SPEAKER_05Oh yeah, dude. You you can't I don't know how these people on the internet that do the smoking videos, you know, the the guys who sell at the barbecue shops, how long do you have that shit on the smoker? I did my my oxtails were on the smoker for six hours and they were still tough. Six hours. I didn't even know you could smoke oxtail, but you have to braise it afterwards if you really want to get the get it like fall off the bone.
SPEAKER_04Like ribs, I smoke for like four, four and a half hours. Brisket takes like at least 12. So yeah, I mean you're talking about content-wise. I mean, you're just kind of it's like a two-day event.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, if you're doing it. Yeah, usually on a smoke, if I'm now I would smoke it overnight, especially since my smoker's not that big. I have one of those pellet ones. So if I do everything in one day, which I've tried to do before, we're not eating until like 9 p.m.
SPEAKER_04Unless you get up at like two in the morning.
SPEAKER_05I've I've gotten up at 6 a.m. and still it that that that brisket ain't done until late in the day. And then I have all the other shit like chicken and whatever that I would want to smoke. I do a nice buffalo dip on the smoker.
SPEAKER_04Gotta do the uh Texas crutch with the biscuit, with the brisket. Gotta wrap it, gotta wrap it once it stalls at the whatever temperature.
SPEAKER_05Like I forget what you hit the 160.
SPEAKER_04Oh man, we had some good barbecue the other night. Went to Hutchins. Ooh, man.
SPEAKER_05Heard Hutchins is good.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, they make some good barbecue. That shit was good. Barbecue's good, yes. Yes, Texas barbecue is they definitely got barbecue. Barbecue and Mexican food. Oh, actually, I will say, around the DFW area, I have a hard time finding bad food.
SPEAKER_05I don't know, I've never been to Texas, so truffle's going crazy. Truffle is going crazy. Somebody must be at the dirt. Anyway, speaking of Texas, our my favorite Texas resident, Drake, he's selling 50% of OVO to who the fuck was it? Let me pull this up. I'm pulling up stuff, people. That's what we do here. We pull stuff up and give you facts and knowledge. Oh no, never mind. Let's talk about Chrome Hearts. All right. This is so Chrome Hearts is suing Nordstrom. Did you hear about this? No. I'll play the video. So this young lady, um, she is like my new favorite content creator. I don't know. I I oh, she's in Houston, Texas. Uh, she's total hater. Uh, I believe she's also Jewish as well. I thought she was mixed race when I first seen her. But uh, I got she said she put some post up about how like she um hates some black-owned brand or something like that. And I was like, oh, like this this half-breed's going after our us. And then um I did a little more digging and I found out she's just a Jewish girl from somewhere, Texas, I guess. But she uh that she has a little page where she critiques fashion and she's growing on the thing. I gave her a nice little shout-out on my page because I have a larger following. She didn't follow me back, obviously, because this is what they do. You gotta think these people who she only follows like 15 people. You know, they're trying to people try to find their little niche and they're trying to be like all exclusive and stuff. I bet you in a well, I'm not gonna bet, she does make good content, but it's from that hater perspective. Yeah. Right? So it's more for the the likes. I mean, the the you know, the the what the discourse, rage bait, rage bait, rage, yeah, you call it rage bait for the most part, but she's critiquing or talking about this um chrome hearts Nordstrom thing. I mean, I'll I'll reload it and we can we could listen to it together as a family here. Let's see.
SPEAKER_01I never thought I would be saying these two brands in the same sentence, but Chrome Hearts is suing I never thought I would be saying these two brands in the same sentence, but Chrome Hearts is suing Nordstrom. Let's get into why. So the fashion law reported that Chrome Hearts is suing Nordstrom over a collection of accessories that the luxury brand claims unlawfully replicate some very recognizable motifs from Chrome Hearts. You're probably wondering what super unique design elements is Nordstrom copying from Chrome Hearts? It's a cross. So if Chrome Hearts can legally sue Nordstrom for using a cross on a necklace, then in my opinion, the Catholic Church could sue Chrome Hearts for their entire brand, piggybacking off of a religious motif. At the top are the two standing Chromehearts trademark logos. It's two variations of a very specific type of cross, but a cross nonetheless, a decorative cross. We've seen this before from thousands of brands and from different religions, okay? But Chrome Hearts was able to trademark it great. This is their cross, and they're claiming that specifically this trademark was being infringed upon by Nordstrom in this necklace that they were selling in their accessories department.
SPEAKER_05So I could see that. You could tell she's not of the culture. She doesn't understand what Chrome Hearts is.
SPEAKER_04I don't know. I didn't look at that necklace and think chrome hearts either.
SPEAKER_05You gotta zoom in on it. Uh let me zoom in. It's a little hard to ex. It's exactly the same. Uh hold on, a magnifying. Can I magnify it in a little made it smaller? Never mind. Uh it's uh that's our head.
SPEAKER_04I I can look it up.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_01To me, it's not a point. If Nordstrom had made like the rubber version in a neon color of like a very distinct chrome hearts product, maybe. This to me, no relation. As much relation as any church's cross has to Chrome Hearts. I don't know, maybe I'm biased because I don't ride or die for Chrome Hearts, but do you guys think that they have grounds to sue, or do you think that their famous cross logo is a little bit too ambiguous for them to take legal action against Nordstrom?
SPEAKER_05I don't, I I I think I it's close enough. I it looks like that to me.
SPEAKER_04I don't know. I I think that's just silly. I think Chrome Hearts needs to be in the news for some reason, and this is newsworthy. I just I think that's just silly. Honestly. I would I would think in this economy, but you know what? The wealthy, they're eating.
SPEAKER_05They survived three or four economics. They've been around since the 1980s, right?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, they're like cockroaches, man.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, and the shit just keeps getting more expensive and more sought after. Athletes love that shit, man.
SPEAKER_04I don't like Chrome Arts. I am not a fan. I I don't get it at all. It looks very feminine, it's dainty. I don't understand how they got baggy jeans, bro.
SPEAKER_05They don't be wearing it's not it's not no tight leather.
SPEAKER_04Jewelry, though.
SPEAKER_05I don't rock with the jewelry because it looks cheap.
SPEAKER_04That's my point. Like it's expensive. Same. I want a big fat rope. I thought about getting a rope chain. Like a doom, I think I'd look ridiculous.
SPEAKER_05Like a like a Cuban link? Big Cuban like a rope chain.
SPEAKER_04Like old school, thick rope chain. Get a grill.
SPEAKER_05Oh man. I want to get a grill. Actually, for my new page, my new content page, I gotta start putting together uh some some concepts. I have all these songs and stuff. I'm gonna relate to different like um things. You'll see when I when I put it up.
SPEAKER_04Wait, we're getting an exclusive?
SPEAKER_05Not right now. No, no, no. It's gonna be it's gonna be my new my new thing on Instagram. That's gonna go along with the new theme of my YouTube channel.
SPEAKER_04I like it.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, it's something. Just trying to differentiate myself from the other animals out there in an artsy way.
SPEAKER_04Sneaker creators?
SPEAKER_05Not even sneaker creators, just like creators in general. I was trying to think of something that's creative that'll bring people in. The store, like with storytelling and stuff like that. Especially about my my life. I want to talk about myself a lot more. More than I usually do.
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SPEAKER_05You know, I got a lot of things to talk about. I just want to put it all out there in a cool, interesting way.
SPEAKER_04I'm here for it, man. I'm excited for it.
SPEAKER_05Yo, people, this is one thing I understand I'm starting to understand about content creation and all that stuff, man. Like the stories that we have are things that people want to hear because everybody likes to live vicariously through another person. And that's why social media is what it is. But it's gotten to a point where it's like everything has to be so brand safe. Everything has to be like in this this box that you're one way or you won't, you know, get paid. I'm not worried about getting paid. I'm worried about being popular and having power.
SPEAKER_06You know, all right.
SPEAKER_04I got a I got a question for you. I got a question for you. You gotta ride with me on this one for a little bit, though. It's a story. The story will lead into the question. So I'm driving downtown, I'm like some part of Dallas, I think we were in the art district. Yo, I had like 32 ounces of coffee. I had to take a piss. Like so bad. So I'm like, let's find a gas station. So we pull up, find a gas station, and I'm beelined to the bathroom. I bust open the door, and there's a dude taking a shit in the urinal. What would you do? Would you just park next to him and take a leak? Or would you tail out of there? Was the stalls full? Stalls were full. There was a urinal, two urinals, and a you know, a stall. Was this Wang hanging out? You saw everything? Yo, he was pants down, sitting square on that frickin'. Urinal taking a shit.
SPEAKER_05How close were you to the next urinal? Yeah, like was there a urinal between? Oh, there was only one urinal. Yeah, so there wasn't a urinal like that you couldn't.
SPEAKER_04No, he's like two urinals. No. Right next to each other.
SPEAKER_05I'd hold it in and wait till everybody was done.
SPEAKER_04I couldn't.
SPEAKER_05Like if I was in the bathroom already, and if dude made eye contact, did he say anything to you?
SPEAKER_04Like so he he made eye contact because I think he must have been something was going on, but literally he made eye contact and then just kept about it. So I just was like, fuck it, I gotta pee really.
SPEAKER_05Did he have toilet paper?
SPEAKER_04No, but what he did is he he got up with his pants down and around his ankles, he grabbed some like paper, like uh handpaper, whatever, uh paper towels. Jeez, hand paper. What the fuck did that come from? Paper towels, and he scoops it out of the freaking urinal and throws it in the trash. That's when I left. Yeah, in the trash. Wait, did he wipe his ass with the paper towels? I I did not look that long. Like I was pretty checked out at that point. I was like, I just gotta leave, you know, take a piss and get the hell out of here.
SPEAKER_05So I've seen these videos of people take dumps in public. Number one, some of these people, I like you must have a high fiber diet where you could like just it look it looked like a damn, you know, like a frogart type of thing coming out the ass, and they just walked off, right? And I'm like, that's crazy, right? And then, you know, because you know, I make I I don't eat the best, so I'm not gonna describe my poop when I'm not eating well, but you know this is that these people just clinch their butt, walk away. And I could, I could like you probably wouldn't have to wipe if you have a good bowel movement that's solid, right? I mean, you wouldn't have to.
SPEAKER_04I mean I don't think with the sense of urgency he must have had to shit in the urinal, I don't think he was, you know, high fiber, good diet kind of thing. Yeah, this was probably like oh shit, I'm about to shit my pants, and yeah, I gotta go.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, it was a good time. I feel bad more for you and the other people in that bathroom for that predicament.
SPEAKER_04Well, the guy in the stall didn't see anything.
SPEAKER_05I mean, he he had to like see something. So it's just you, there was no other people in there?
SPEAKER_04It was so me, the guy shitting in the urinal, and then the guy in the stall. So it was one stall, two urinals.
SPEAKER_05That's correct. Wow. Yeah. You know, most most most uh um gas stations only have one bathroom, and you have to get that key and they put on like a ball and chain.
SPEAKER_04Oh, really? Not here.
SPEAKER_05I mean some of these, if they have the outdoor bathroom, like a smaller gas station. I seen it where I had the I stopped and then I had to do it once. I had to stop in some gas station. The guy had to go to the little convenience store. Yeah, and he gives me on like a it's on a fucking two by four, and you gotta go fumble around with that and go to the bathroom. They make you buy something, so I'm asking me a bottle of water. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_04Uh we're spoiled out here.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I mean, if you got wahwas and buckys and all that shit. Yeah, man, I missed it. You wouldn't have that problem with Bucky's, they got really nice.
SPEAKER_04I know the Bucky's is the best. Their bathrooms uh you could eat off the floor.
SPEAKER_05So the one over here in Dayton opened up uh a couple of months ago, and um there was a well, not the one here, the one I went to in I don't know where. I was driving down to Atlanta. First time I stopped at Bucky's, but there was a line out the door for the bathroom. It's crazy. It moves quick though. I mean, there are a lot of stalls. I heard, yeah.
SPEAKER_04It's it does move quick, and I'll tell you, it's an experience super clean.
SPEAKER_05I mean, how do you get time to so many people 24 hours a day? Yo, that that kilbasa on a stick wrapped in a tortilla, best thing ever. I think did I mention that last week? I mentioned it in one of these episodes.
SPEAKER_04I had to Did you enter that? I think we were making fun of you for the no, you I thought you said yeah, a hot dog or something, a glizzy.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, well, it's a it's a it's a sausage on a stick.
SPEAKER_04Wrapped in a no, it sounds like the best thing at Bucky's, man. Their brisket isn't terrible. Their barbecue.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Oh, NBA draft is going on right now. We could live. I'm gonna announce who the uh number one pick is. The Washington Wizards have it. They just re-signed Trey Young, by the way. Shout out to Trey Young for getting the bag and wanting to play in DC, I heard. It's weird.
SPEAKER_04That is weird.
SPEAKER_05Um oh yeah, so next next topic. So, yeah, shout out to Chrome Hearts for doing, you know, God's work and suing these people for stealing your cross.
SPEAKER_04I don't know. I still don't think it's I think it's just clickbait.
SPEAKER_05So okay, this is something that's interesting. So shout out to Demisa, one of my favorite music people. I used to not like this guy, but he actually makes I used to not like him because when I was all industryed up, this is la a couple years ago, he used to go on there and tell us the I used to think they were just stupid war stories, and then I found out that he used to smash Mariah Carey. This guy used to smash Mariah Carey, by the way. Shut up when she was freaking in her prime, he was smashing.
SPEAKER_04That's crazy.
SPEAKER_05She wanted to marry him. This is the story he tells, and I'll send you some podcast clips of it. But I believe him because there's mad pictures of him out there, and Mariah's the type that gets what she wants. And if she wants the guy who promotes her radio records, she gets it. And he was man, whatever. But shout out to Demizer, he puts out like music industry content, keeps me up to date on a lot of things that are going on within the industry. So, just to give you some context around this, Drake is selling 50% of OVO brand to Authentic Brands Group. Now, this all revolves around some drama that's been going on with OVO, and we'll talk about that as well. So, OVO took out a loan from some place, I don't know what place it was, but they apparently defaulted, owe some money, apparently, and there's a dispute because payment hasn't been administered uh over how much. So people are saying Drake's broke because he has a gambling problem. People are saying that uh, you know, there's mafia involved, there's this and that, and he has no, and it's just saying basically the man has no money. This is what's how stupid people are. Wealthy people don't need to have money, they have assets. This man lives in a marble gold plated mansion in the best suburb of Toronto, Ontario. Has a house in California that's just sitting there with a gold.
SPEAKER_04Does he own it though?
SPEAKER_05Yes, he owns the house in Cali that's just sitting there. It's they're selling it for like 60 million dollars or some shit. It's just on the market, it's just been sitting in California. He has properties in Texas all over the fucking place. Obviously, he can't go back out to LA for you know obvious reasons. He can't go out to LA for a while at least till things cool down, I guess. All right, I don't know if he's actually been out there recently. Who knows? But the man is not hurting for money, right? They say he has a gambling problem. No, stake has a Drake problem. They keep giving him free money to gamble with, and he keeps losing it, okay? To them. So he's just getting it back. And when he wins, he cashes out and he gets paid on top of his $100 million deal. This man is not suffering. A little five million dollars ain't shit to Drake. The problem here is it's bad business for whatever, because obviously, look, that's no chunk change, right? So nobody's gonna say, oh, he's not gonna go out of his pocket and say, hey, Oliver, who runs the OVO brand. Hey, uh, here's it's just pay the loan off. No, there's a dispute. They're gonna go through the process to save, you know, to get their just due. So never mind. I'll take that off the plate. All these losers out there talking about it, keep talking about it because it doesn't matter. Drake's fine with the money. And that's not just me being like a Drake guy. Glaze, no donut glaze, whatever the fuck y'all call it. Well, what do they call it? Bagel glaze, but the reverse glaze. Uh no, Jeff Staples at the reverse. I'm Jersey. Pause. But you these guys have the money, so don't worry about that. It's just like anybody for any types of money that you're gonna spend. If somebody says, hey, you owe me a million dollars and I actually owe you, fuck yeah. If I'm a billionaire trillionaire, I'm taking you to fucking court. I'm like, nah, no, I don't owe you that much. This is how much I owe you, right? And that's how they're gonna dispute that. Next thing the OVO brands. Let's get back on that. They're selling a 50% stake and authentic brands. Are you familiar with them?
SPEAKER_04I don't know a ton about them now. So they're not a brand I mess with.
SPEAKER_05Well, yeah, well, they they're the they buy up imprints and make them bigger, they put them in retail stores. This is how you get into Macy's, this is how you get them to Target, Walmart, maybe, whatever. So they have a strategy. They want to use the OVO brand. I probably want to put it in more retailers. So I'm gonna let the miser like kind of talk about it a little bit and he expands on my my theories or thesis, whatever. Let me reload this. Uh I wish they had real play buttons here. This shit.
SPEAKER_03Is Drake selling 50% of OVO? Breaking news! Is Drake selling 50% of OVO to authentic brands? It's one of the smartest trends I'm seeing from artists right now. According to reports, Drake is exploiting the sale. A 50% stake in OVO to authentic brands. Whether this deal happens or not, it almost doesn't matter. The strategy is what matters here. For years, artists built careers around songs. Now they're building companies around intellectual property. The t-shirt isn't the business, the hoodie isn't the business, the logo isn't the business, the brand is the business. You uh build something consumers trust outside of music, it becomes an asset that can be licensed, expanded, and in some cases sold. And that's why I keep saying you are your IP, your name has value, your likeness has value, your community has value. And if you build it right, your business can outlive the charts. So we'll see if this goes down. But smart idea, and by the way, authentic brands is the one that deal did the deal with Kevin Hart, the billion-dollar deal. So I mean, they got the loot. Story developing.
SPEAKER_05They did the Kevin Hart deal. I forgot about that.
SPEAKER_04Or he just logo and I'm like, yeah, I was in a a couple spots in Vegas where they sell it.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, they have a they have a flagship store. So right now, OVO is only online in flagship stores. I don't think they're in, they might be in some boutiques, but I don't know if if that's weird.
SPEAKER_04I can't remember if it was a store or a store that had it. Because it was a reset shop.
SPEAKER_05It might have been a resell shop, yeah. Yeah. I have uh a couple of Jacob and Co. hats from them. Like when they did the Jacob and Co. collaboration. And I wear it.
SPEAKER_04Man, you love your Jacob and Co.
SPEAKER_05Yo, Jacob the jeweler, man. I can't wait to buy a watch from him. Anything, I'll buy anything, underwear, whatever they got. Um you'll buy worn shoes from him, wouldn't you? I already bought stuff from him. Yes.
SPEAKER_04Would you buy worn shoes by him?
SPEAKER_05No, I would not.
SPEAKER_04Uh okay. All right. At least I'm held up to some standard.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah. So what do you think about that? Like, do you think that this is sort of like sort of like the Supreme thing, but Supreme kind of kept its self to itself, right? It's little boutiques and its um, you know, flagship. Well, it didn't go into other boutiques and they kept it kind of exclusive still, but it always sells out. But like, what do you think? Do you think Ovieo will make it if it hits Macy's?
SPEAKER_04I don't think so. I mean, it have to drastically reduce the price point.
SPEAKER_05Price point ain't that bad.
SPEAKER_04But I feel like even at Macy's, I mean, it uh can you command the same price tag as some of the other seasoned brands? I'm trying to think. Macy's doesn't sell the same shit as they used to. It's they have random stuff. I think it's just they don't have a lot of they don't carry higher end stuff. I guess that's kind of my point.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I think the highest end you'll get there is probably like I would say they have something a little bit above polo. I gotta figure that out what it was. I think they have like Armani Exchange and stuff like that in there sometimes. I don't know.
SPEAKER_04I I think this would hit like Bloomingdales, because I think Macy's owns Bloomingdales now. So I can see this in Bloomingdales.
SPEAKER_05Nordstrom.
SPEAKER_04Definitely, yeah.
SPEAKER_05See, 172. These are Supreme prices, really, with that little owl stitch on. That's just kind of fire. This uh this joint.
SPEAKER_04Oh, it's got some it's not bad. I love a back hit. Pause pause shirt, though. Hey, yo.
SPEAKER_05A back hit. He loves a back hit. Hey, where's Cario when we need him? He would have been all over you. Pause. There's your back hit. Boom. See, I can't, I'd go hat. I wouldn't wear none of this shit. Anything like I can't be draped, dripped down, draped up, whatever, and some shit that's synonymous with another man. Like October's very own is literally Drake. I can't do that unless I'm on the team and I got an owl chain on. You don't own me until I have a chain, yo. I ain't wearing none of this shit ever. I would never wear this stuff. The shorts are kind of dope. I like these cargoes. These are fire. Like board shorts, right? A cargo pants. Yeah. No, I like these.
SPEAKER_04Terrible. It's like boat pants. It's awful.
SPEAKER_05No, these are these are I think these are baggy, but they also I like that uh mesh that what's that called? Like linen. No, no, no, no, no. That's like combat mesh, whatever. Sort of like the uh ballistic, yeah, ballistic thing. You can't really see it on the screen. Yeah, it's like they literally look like linen. They look like it's not a linen, it's cotton linen. Oh, ripstop oh rip stop. That's what it is. Rip stop. That's it. Yep. All right. But it's 20%. So I don't like them. You're right. I don't like them. I'd wear those. I don't wear belts. When I get a when I get rid of the belly, I'm gonna start wearing belts. But this stuff is uh is right up there. This this whole see this whole fit right here, I'd rock with that if it was like uh just like essentials.
SPEAKER_04John Elliott. I'm looking through essentials with a different loader.
SPEAKER_05That's the whole point. Yeah, so that's the whole point, right? So if this stuff is in, I'd wear this to the gym. I totally wear this. Yeah, Nocta. I like Nocta. Uh the Nike stuff. I fuck with Nocta. I got a couple of Nocta pieces, but I don't know if I could wear stuff that just says OVO on it, bro. I'm not part of the team. This is like glaze clothing. Like, literally anybody who doesn't, who hasn't been in a picture with Drake, should not be wearing this, in my opinion. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_04Or so you don't think it'll survive? You don't think it'll do well if it goes? I think no, no, it'll do well.
SPEAKER_05The normies don't know. The normies will be like, oh, look at this cool owl. Like they'll just buy it and wear it. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_04I feel like this palette is played out. Like it's uh I never see that on the street.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, because I mean people wear it though. There's a lot of oh, that's fire. This is hat, this 316 hat. Um but they got licensing agreements with all the uh the sports teams, all that stuff, so they put out things all the time. Shit, I should have sold my my Jacobin Co. hats are probably worth something now. The hat the hat bin. I just wore them both. Yeah, they got some look this is hard. Harlem Globetrotter. That's fire. I'd wear that. I don't like those sleeves though. That brown, that should be like red. Should make those sleeves red.
SPEAKER_04That's tough. I'm not a varsity jacket guy.
SPEAKER_05Really?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it's not on me.
SPEAKER_05I bought a uh Nocto coat like this. It's yellow though. This is fire too, yeah. It's like no color.
SPEAKER_04Hey, yeah, I ain't you ain't rocking that. That's fire. I'd rock that. You can't you just said you wouldn't rock anything with his logo or name.
SPEAKER_05Oh, no, no. I mean, I I like the styling. Like I'd wear something from Polo like this. Like I I like I said, I can't do the like the putting in another man's name and shit all over my body. That's that's that's fire. It looks like um para, like a para thing.
SPEAKER_04A little bit, a little bit, yeah.
SPEAKER_05Para pato. Gotta get them all mixed up, they're all the same. They got a lot of different little little styles here. I fuck with some of it. Shout out though, though, if they get into the stores like they need to be, and we'll see what happens.
SPEAKER_0450% though.
SPEAKER_05Look, they owe money to creditors, so they gotta sell. Yeah, it is what it is. So wait, were you the one that said Nike's trying to destroy resale? Did you watch that?
SPEAKER_04I did. I watched it. You should put it on the screen.
SPEAKER_05I am gonna put it on the screen just for you. It was interesting. I don't know how true it is. Yo, if it's coming from Elliot page, it's all true. Was that a YouTube short?
SPEAKER_04No, I thought it was no, it might have been. You need me to send it again?
SPEAKER_05No, no, no.
SPEAKER_04It's YouTube. It's YouTube.
SPEAKER_05No. Oh, that's why half of the fucking shit says little B on the end. Okay, I see. Ashy, ashy, ashy. Okay, this is I think this is an old clip, but okay. Yeah. I think I've seen this already. Is it about their return policies?
SPEAKER_04Yes. So it must be old. You don't have to play it then.
SPEAKER_05Not play it. Because you could also tell it's old because Elliot's hair is different now. Not to not that I'm following the young man's hair. I just know that he's got a new haircut. Shout out to Elliot Page, though. We'll we'll we'll play through this because it's still relevant. I don't think we've ever talked about this. In um context. Oh god, I'm all over the place here. You see that? Here we go.
SPEAKER_04It's not play, I can't hear it.
SPEAKER_00But with the intention of reselling them. Nike just changed their policies, which could destroy resellers. These new policies now include much harsher penalties for anyone buying Nike products with the intention of reselling them. Nike now reserves the right to charge restocking fees, impose purchase quantity limits, refuse returns, and deny access to any of its stores. This could be detrimental to resellers who constantly return sneakers when they drop in value. The new purchase quantity limits could make it impossible for sneaker bots to order a bunch of hyped-up products. Nike also has the right to reject or cancel orders from accounts that have an excessive amount of returns. So the question is, will this actually stop sneaker resellers or not? Nike Uh no, and hasn't.
SPEAKER_05Nope. Sure hasn't. So he put that out like six months ago. And uh I remember this clip, I saw it already. So it's funny how the algorithm like starts feeding us like good content from old. I saw stuff popping up on my other pages from my YouTube page from like a year or two ago.
SPEAKER_04I guess the weird lately, like really weird.
SPEAKER_05They're gate, they're testing out um who makes good content because the clipping era they were they're trying to kill it, they're trying to kill it uh people who excessively clip and use other people's content and monetize it. Some platforms like Facebook are embracing it now. So I told you guys that we're monetized. So I wish I had a soundboard so I could clap. We're monetized on um Facebook. Yeah. We made a grand total of three cents on Facebook. Yeah, it's in the positive. If we were monetized on Instagram, it would be a totally different story. We'd probably make more money or really make money, but you need to have consistent views.
SPEAKER_04I keep I get the most views now on Instagram, and I have the smallest following.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah, it's gonna push and throw in more people.
SPEAKER_04But Instagram people very tick tock, TikTok's been brutal lately. I can't barely get any views.
SPEAKER_05Bro, casual politics is killing right now on TikTok. Yeah, I I don't even know. Bro, there's two, three posts that got over almost 100,000 views in the last day or two. It's just like cranking out shit in front of people. Clips are good, everything's going well. Yeah, I hired very good clippers. Anyway, we uh we're yeah, so I don't think any of that shit that Nike's doing is stopping reselling. Like reselling is just you know, we said it before, it's been part of the culture.
SPEAKER_04Just build a better bot.
SPEAKER_05That's all. Build a better bot, build a better structure. Like, make I don't even say make more shoes. Like, just do what you gotta do, like to go wherever. That was deep. Sorry, I'm being distracted here. So BYU's AJ by Dai Banta went number one. That was the guy who was expected to go number one. I don't even know how to say his name. And Darren Peterson from Kansas went number two in the NBA draft today. So far. That's what we're at. So they're on the clock. Memphis got that. So uh AJ went to Washington, Utah picked up Darren, and Memphis is on the clock with the number three pick. I wonder where LA is. LA don't even have a pick. Oh, they got number 25. That's not bad. At least they have a they're in the top 30. Anyway. Yeah, man. Reselling as I look at the marketplace now, I think it's a it's an even keeled market where if you miss out, you're not worried about paying inflated resale like you used to be.
SPEAKER_04Market has definitely where the reselling bubble, I guess you could say, has popped for now.
SPEAKER_05But what is what was driving that? Was it just big normies buying shit for over overpriced shit? You think?
SPEAKER_04I think I think COVID really sparked kind of the seeker creator content type thing. And I think it was it influenced the market.
SPEAKER_05So people were just hyped up over buying regular bullshit.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, like pandas. I mean, my goodness, there's so much hype with freaking panda dunks.
SPEAKER_05Yo, they're always on sale.
SPEAKER_04I saw some at Marshall's and shit. People still wear. I can't tell you how many people I've seen buy them for over 300 bucks back in their prime. Like, that's crazy. I never understood that.
SPEAKER_05I go even when they were hype, I was like, it's a black and white dunk.
SPEAKER_04I've never owned a pair, ever.
SPEAKER_05I have four pairs and the highs. I like the highs better. I haven't worn the material. The materials are garbage. Well, that's I do you think the original ones that came out in 2020 they were better material? No. I don't remember.
SPEAKER_04Nor did I receive. They're all garbage. Like you put them on your feet for a couple wears, and they're just they look fucking cooked.
SPEAKER_05I see, I saw a guy wearing some dirty ass pandas the other day. I was like, damn, how do you walk outside with them shits on there? And then also, it's like it's like wearing dirty Air Force Ones now. They're cheaper than Air Force Ones. They're actually a little more versatile. Because they're black and white. A white pair, white and cleaner, a little longer. A little, but they crease fast. And the creasing is worse than an Air Force One, in my opinion. It's so bad. It looks like you're crumbling a piece of paper. So bad. It's disgusting. So bad. I have not put a pair on my feet yet. Uh, I'm waiting until the hype dies down when the 12-year-old white girl stopped wearing them.
SPEAKER_04But I you know what I've been noticing since we're we're still kind of in the social lane, but I'm seeing a lot of influencer creators now in the sneaker space. Like people that you know just sort of started getting more popular with a following. Like TikTok's hired them now to sell sneakers on their platform. And now the TikTok algorithm, like let's say I'm doing a live, they'll flag me if I hold up a Jordan. Or sorry, if I hold up like a Jordan one and I say Nike, and they're saying I'm selling a product that is mismatched, even though it's a Nike product, just Jordan brand. It's crazy right now. The algorithm is like so predatory. I don't sell nothing on the internet. Neither do I. They flag you for selling.
SPEAKER_05Do you still do those lives uh with your people?
SPEAKER_04We will be starting to do them again, I think, in the next two weeks. Let me know. I'm gonna pop in.
SPEAKER_05I'm gonna show you all something.
SPEAKER_04People keep asking me to reboot the game. People really like it for whatever reason. I don't even know what that is, yo.
SPEAKER_05I'm just gonna pull out whatever. I'm gonna come on there with pandas. I can't pull out whatever. I'm just gonna come on there with pandas. That's it. There's five pairs of pandas or whatever. That's gonna be my Uno hand. I don't even know how to play Uno. I never played Uno in my life. You've never played Uno? Dog, I don't know what the fuck that is, yo. I've never played it. I see motherfuckers talking about it. My sister probably knows how to play. We used to play Crazy Eights, Blackjack, Poker.
SPEAKER_04As a kid?
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Those are the games we used to play in the house. You used to play poker as a child.
SPEAKER_05My dad, yeah. My mom. Dang. My dad. Blackjack. They love playing solitaire by themselves.
SPEAKER_04You usually do play solitaire by yourself. It's kind of in the title.
SPEAKER_05Yep. Yep. Solitary.
SPEAKER_04And you've never played Uno. You might be the only person I've ever met that has never played Uno. I mean, this wasn't me. Alright. Now I know what I'm sending you. I hope you sent me the other thing. I did. But now I'm gonna send you some Uno cards.
SPEAKER_05How long is that gonna take? It's been a while. Where'd you get it from China? I it'll be there, don't worry. Oh, it had to come to you first. Yeah. You should have shipped directly to me. Oh no, you didn't know that you were doing this until you got it. That's so sweet of you, by the way.
SPEAKER_04No, I don't make some room. Make some room. I don't need any stuff. I'm not allowed to buy any stuff.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I'm not gonna get it.
SPEAKER_04I'm allowed to buy stuff. I got no room.
SPEAKER_05Oh my god, I got no space. We have a big house. And I do not. It grows cramped after a while. I mean, like I don't know. I just need to get rid of shit. It's just my my brain isn't letting me right now. This is tough letting go, but you have to move on.
SPEAKER_04I can't do it. I got 350 pairs. I gotta let go, and I just I gotta do it. Those ones you have to let go of. I I I just I have to thin out the collection. I'm never gonna wear them. I hold on to them for whatever reason.
SPEAKER_05So and I already kind of know which ones you're gonna get rid of. You're gonna lose a lot of money.
SPEAKER_04I know.
SPEAKER_05I know and I don't even think you'll make like you might have to get like after you pay for shipping, you you might have to come out of pocket a little bit to get rid of some of those, bro.
SPEAKER_04Nah, I'm gonna just I'm gonna get one of the people that buy like in bulk just to come by and you know they fly out your way and they evaluate the collection. It's better than me selling them all individually.
SPEAKER_05You're about to get smashed.
SPEAKER_04No Vaseline.
SPEAKER_05No Vaseline, nothing, yo. Ain't gonna leave no tip or nothing, you know.
SPEAKER_04I don't have to accept the offer.
SPEAKER_05And the motherfucker might charge you for the flight out there, too.
SPEAKER_04Fuck no, I ain't paying for that shit.
SPEAKER_05All right, better be weird.
SPEAKER_04If we can't make it the I'm I'm sure they have you send the inventory prior to them flying out.
SPEAKER_05But if you but they find out all this stuff is fake, that'd be crazy. Somebody tries to live crazy and they kidnap you and shit, like they stick you up and kidnap you.
SPEAKER_04I just don't love like strangers in the house. I'm always me neither. That's why I don't do that.
SPEAKER_05They are. You are man. I don't trust nobody around this bitch. You my cleaning lady. She'd be over here like cleaning the house and shit, like looking at my sneaker. Like, she she she goes in the closet, like, you have a lot of shoes. I'm like, okay, fucking dust. That's all I pay you the dust, not ask questions. Lovely lady.
SPEAKER_04You ever been robbed? It sucks, man. No, sucks when someone breaks in the security.
SPEAKER_05We have two different security systems on my house.
SPEAKER_06Dang.
unknownYou are.
SPEAKER_05I tell people that when they come in, they there's one. Well, there's Simply Safe, which you have a little sign outside that says we're protected by Simply Safe. And there's another one that nobody knows about. I put the sensors right next to it, but there's sense, there's different sensors on all different places, and there's a secret box. So I don't the only time I activate the second, why am I telling you that any robbers out there? I activate my second security system when I go out of town. The other one is fine for keeping us safe because it has cameras everywhere. The other one is just sensors, a couple of cameras that they don't that are hidden that nobody can see. And then of course I have my con, you know, little little something under the pillow, little something in the safe, a little something, something, you know, take care of business if it needs to be taken care of.
SPEAKER_04I don't get any of that shit. And we got truffle shotgun next to the bed. Shotgun next to the bed. That's that's all I need.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, truffle takes care of the business you need.
SPEAKER_04I so I had pit bulls, like I had a but literally, if someone broke into my house, they would greet you at the door and lead you to the safe. They were so people friendly, it was crazy. Now it's the person coming in had a dog, that would be a different story. But man, terrible, terrible protection dog.
SPEAKER_05Terrible. They are they're good animals. I love pit bulls, man. Very affectionate. They're lovers and fighters.
SPEAKER_06That is true.
SPEAKER_04Mine were both bait dogs. What does that mean? They cut them and throw them in the ring to get the other dogs to kind of rage small blood and stuff. Because they were smaller. Yep. That's the same. They were the warm-ups. They feed those dogs gunpowder and shit to make them crazy aggressive. I'd never heard of that, but that's crazy. It's terrible. It's terrible that shit. Sad times. Shout out to Michael Vick.
SPEAKER_05993. Oh, there's a 9-9. New balance 993 made in America Burgundy. This is kind of fire. Wow, so it's either. See, this is I still don't understand the whole New Balance thing. Like, that's a good-looking shoe. I'll give it that much. I'd wear that. But it's too simple.
SPEAKER_04Well, look at the protection pack. Like the protection pack was reselling for like a long time for a good clip.
SPEAKER_05So I don't see a flag on the back.
SPEAKER_04It's okay.
SPEAKER_05That's fire. I get these. How much are they? 200. That's a lot of money. I don't know. Burgundy shoe. I just. I like Burgundy. Or Burgundy the other day. All Louis Vuitton's running show. Don Tolliver's back. Don Tolliver. Shout out to Don Tolliver. He's got some new music coming out. He just did a. Oh, Kanye re-released Bully. And I know you said you've been trying to check it out. Have you checked it out? You said you did, right?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I thought it was good.
SPEAKER_05Bro, the new listen to the deluxe version. They redid all the songs. I can't wait. He put Lauren Hill on it. I can't stop listening to it. I wish he put another verse on it, though. It's too short.
SPEAKER_04All the songs are short.
SPEAKER_05I know, but it's like Lauren just kills the hook on it. I can't I can't get out of my head. Beautiful song. Giannis is a Miami Heat now. And Bobby Portis. Bringing his homeboy over there with him. I'm surprised he didn't bring his brothers with him. Shit. I've been obsessed with watches lately. Like just I follow that fat guy. That fat British guy.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I follow him too.
SPEAKER_05He's just talking about everybody's watches and how much they suck. This is a cool watch. How does it tell the time though? Wait. Go back. No, I'm looking like I just want to see what that. Oh, that's a there it is.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_05It's cool. Whatever.
SPEAKER_04Reminds me of an HYT. What? HYT. What does that mean? I'm sorry. I don't know.
SPEAKER_05It's the brand. It's the brand. There's so many brands out there. Let's talk about that. Why are there so many brands? You like when I walk into like uh Blooming, no, Nordstrom mainly, there's so many brands I never heard of, and they have like these very expensive like polo shirts. It'd be like $500. And I'm looking at them like, shit, why are you $500?
SPEAKER_04It's the designer designer version, like like double double RL, right? Like it was like a higher echelon of polo.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, but what makes I mean I understand what makes it special, all these things, but from a quality perspective, is it any money is it worth $500 versus the $50-60 bucks you'd pay for?
SPEAKER_04Any clothes worth the money? I mean, I think I think you're paying the materials do feel better. Like the denim definitely felt better. Although polo denim is always, I think is always good.
SPEAKER_05It's nice. I don't know. I don't like stiff dollars.
SPEAKER_04What do you think of these? I think that's terrible. Patent leather denim, people. Like blueberries.
SPEAKER_05Anybody who's listening to this right now, we're looking at a patent leather Air Force One with a sort of gum, gummy translutent sole. Is that the way it is? Maybe it looks like a glow in the dark. It looks like a glow-in-the-dark sole. But it it's it's a patent leather with like a denim finish. It looks kind of dope, but I don't know. I definitely wear this with a pair of denim pants.
SPEAKER_04You Canadian tuxedo.
SPEAKER_05Yo, I wore my Levi's um with some denim pants. That was fire.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_04Denim pants.
SPEAKER_05Denim pants. Shout out to Lionel Messi for scoring a bunch of goals at the age of 39.
SPEAKER_04I know. Did he break a record?
SPEAKER_05Something like that. Yeah, he had a hat-trick or something. Hat trick. It's hockey. No, that's what they call it in uh football. Do they call it in soccer as well? Football. It's called football. Football. Football. Yeah, I'm tripping, yeah. Football. There's so much.
SPEAKER_04Like, look how long you're scrolling. There's like no good. There's just nothing out there.
SPEAKER_05I don't even have it on the screen. Had anyone scrolling? Yo, Tag Hoyer got a digital joint. Oh, you can see the joint. I took it off the screen. This is fire. Tag hoyer. It's got a digital watch coming out, I guess. That's kind of fire.
SPEAKER_04Doesn't that defeat the purpose of buying like a fine timepiece if it's digital? It's you kind of lose the like you're Cassio. You should look for you know, the the guts of a watch are really kind of the beauty of a watch. Have you ever seen watches be made like handmade? The precision. That's crazy. It's beautiful. It's crazy.
SPEAKER_05And I think that's what makes them special, right? These movements and stuff.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_04Well, it makes them more expensive. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. The more complicated the movement, the more gears, the more bullshit that they put in there. So that's why I don't understand this pop swatch thing when it was when it was popping for that week or two.
SPEAKER_04Well, it still had not an automatic movement.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, but you can't you can't open it. You can't get it fixed or whatever. So if it breaks, you got it's done.
SPEAKER_04You can't open it? Really?
SPEAKER_05Uh uh. It's uh plastic ceramic case.
SPEAKER_04I didn't know that.
SPEAKER_05It's like a plastic ceramic polymer.
SPEAKER_04It's kind of stupid. How do you service it? I mean, you can't. Like I have to service my watches.
SPEAKER_05There's a guy, he took out the face and switched the um the dial. He's pretty creative. I think I sent it to you guys. Yeah, I think I took a part of it. Yeah, you put it in a metal casing. But it's still, I mean, the only thing that's ultimately on that watch is the the letters that they put on the yeah, that's pretty much it.
SPEAKER_04I mean, the movement has nothing to do with it. It's all swatch, yeah. It's a licensing deal right there.
SPEAKER_05Yep, yep. It swatches top movement. Oh, so Supreme. Oh, did you did you see the little B ad for Supreme?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I it's okay. Did you like it? No, now I'm on the big screen.
SPEAKER_05Uh yeah, you'd be in a big screen. Nah, but like, I thought it was interesting. So um I've come to the conclusion, which I the same conclusion I came to in like 2010, or whenever the fuck little B was popping. He can't rap. Uh entertaining as fuck, got some good songs and shit, but I don't think he's a rapper. Uh what are their these T's are coming out this week? Is that is that part of this week? Yeah. The t-shirt drop?
SPEAKER_04It's the t-shirt drop. They also have some other stuff too. I saw like a what else did I see? They had some accessories coming out.
SPEAKER_05Little B fits that supreme aesthetic. Yeah, I just I don't know. There's nothing all that are those dogs or bunnies. Those like bunnies. That yellow tea's hard. Pause. Yo, last supper tea? What? Bro. Need. Need. I can't have no last supper pieces.
SPEAKER_04I know. I I wanted the belt so bad. And the tape. I wanted the last supper tape that they had this season.
SPEAKER_05I thought you got that.
SPEAKER_04No, I just got Supreme tape.
SPEAKER_05Little skunks are cool. It's alright. I'd wear it. I'd get this. I'm gonna get one of these skunk shirts if they got them. They probably have them in white too, you think? Yeah, that mint green is a bit much. Yeah. I'd wear it though if I said the only color I could get. This is too much. I hate it when they put like the curse words on the T's.
SPEAKER_04It depends on how they do it.
SPEAKER_05I mean it says fuck you on a t-shirt.
SPEAKER_04Like, why would you I have one that says fuck off, but it's got like a naked chick. Yeah, fuck off.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Oh, see you got the naked chick. Um I had a um I had a hoodie. I think it said fuck off or fuck you, but it said it in lettering all wrapped all the around the joint. I sold it for a lot of money. Well, I can't walk around like that. I don't really want.
SPEAKER_04Well, you remember French Connection? You remember that brand? Yeah, yeah. I remember their logo was F C U K U. So it was it would have like F C. No, sorry, F K F K U C. It looked like fuck, but it was rearranged.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. I just don't like cursing at people like that. Subliminally, no, it was that's it.
SPEAKER_04F C U K. French Connection UK. French Connection UK.
SPEAKER_05French Connection.
SPEAKER_04Man, I haven't thought about that brand in a minute.
SPEAKER_05It's been a while. They were popping around the time Banana Republic was popping. Yeah, Triple Five Soul was another cool brand. I'm looking them up now. French Connection is still around. Benetton. They sell ladies stuff. Benetton's like still cool. It's women's stuff, though. This is all women's stuff. Did they change?
SPEAKER_04They must have gotten rid of their menswear.
SPEAKER_05French Connection. Maybe it's a different store now. I can French Connection film. There's a movie called French Connection. Yes. I think there was a book. Oh, wait, maybe I was on the wrong French Connection because I just went to another website and they got men's stuff here too. This is probably the right one. FrenchConnection.com. Where were you going? I don't know. It just had women's stuff, though. It came up first on the search.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, that's their logo. That's their brand.
SPEAKER_05Man, man. They got a nice little new one style. I like this shirt. This is the type of shit I want to wear. This Tony Soprano type shit. Are you serious? I like wearing stuff like that. $34. I don't like that stuff. I have a couple of shirts like this already.
unknownNah.
SPEAKER_04I can't do a short sleeve button down. I just, it's even if you just wear it open, you just wear it open. No, it's terrible. Never wear this. What's wrong with you? I love this. You look like an old man wearing that.
SPEAKER_05Depends on how you wear it, bro. You wear this. That looks old. I got a pair of pink these dunks that I have look great with this. Oh my god. Some Vermelsi dunks with this.
SPEAKER_04I'm tired. High tops, the high tops. You're gonna move to Boca and start playing shuffleboard in that outfit.
SPEAKER_05Yo, bro, this is fire right here. You're fucking with me, dude. Doing flowers and shit. Yo, you want me? I will pull out some shit from my closet right now and show you what we rock them with. This shit just is like God.
SPEAKER_04I would never ever like this is awful. Yeah, this is fire.
SPEAKER_05This is like a dude, this is like a depends on how you wear it, man. You gotta style it right, bro.
SPEAKER_04There's no stuff there's no style to that. I don't need to style that right because it sucks. It's great.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Life's good. Life's good. I'm gonna get me a couple of these pieces. They on sale, all of them. Oh, but the the the transfer. What's $45, Euros to dollars? What is that? Like $50? $55, maybe?
SPEAKER_04$55 or something. I don't know what the euro is compared to the dollar anymore.
SPEAKER_05It says free returns, UK standard shipping. Oh god, I'll never get here. I'll trust the British for shipping anything. Fuck man. They were all fucked. Can't get shit from overseas anymore.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, Starmer just uh stepped down. Who the Prime Minister.
SPEAKER_05This is real. Alright, so this is real. Sorry, I'm about to put something on the screen. I showed you guys this. I didn't think I thought this was fake. This is real.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Those I would buy.
SPEAKER_05Look, if I was if I was walking, okay, shout out to Alicia Silverstone. I had the biggest crush on you when we were when you were a child, or I was a child. Who didn't? Oh I would assume a lot of people didn't. Really? She was not like back then though, that was kind of the look. The Aerosmith videos. That's what that's what it was. She had that girl next door thing, and he had her acting real slutty and stuff in the videos. Remember that? Yeah. Yeah. And then she did that movie The Crush. So I mind you, I was all about these. Like, I was like in love with this white girl. Yeah, it was crazy. I was just like Alicia Silverstone, posters, all that shit.
SPEAKER_04So why wouldn't you want the shoes? Good memory, right? No, why would I care about the shoe?
SPEAKER_05I would never I would have to literally wear her outfit from that fucking movie.
SPEAKER_04I just feel like it's a cool collectible.
SPEAKER_05Is there a man way to wear this? Let me see. Yellow. Let me look up her outfit. Yellow plaid. Clueless. Oh, I'm looking up the outfit right now. I can only imagine what's going to pop up on the screen. No, it's gonna be her wearing the fucking outfit. What are you talking about? On the movie. I didn't, I mean it it she she wore it well. It is what it is. Oh, they had like the whole like is this before they had squirts? Like these these these skirts are really short. That's crazy how short that shit is.
SPEAKER_04I don't know. Like ass out if you bent over. I think that's a little different of a outfit there.
SPEAKER_05It's the same thing, I think. The top. Somewhat now it's blue. It's got blue hits. Yeah, you're right. So yeah, this is with the shoe. Why are they making this shoe? That's what I that kind of throws me. Like what's the point? Tribute to the so we can make a lot of things.
SPEAKER_04I don't know why this resurgence of Air Forces is kind of predominant.
SPEAKER_05Is it the cycle? They said Air Forces were gonna come back in a big way and be like dunks were. I don't see that happening, but I don't either. Who the fuck do I know? Because I still like dunks, and it's easier to tell a story on a dunk because it's so just the way the um the color blocking the palette that you have, right? I think that's better.
SPEAKER_04I mean, think about everyone went crazy for the Nardwar. This is the Nardwar in a different colorway on an Air Force.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, but it's it's like you know, hot chick from the 90s. It's still the same kind of material like pattern. Yeah. But like Nardwar, did you do you wanna remember you used to say you said like beat off the fucking infomercials? Would you were you thinking about Nardwar? No, of course not. The only reason I'd buy this shoe is if I was a fan, like if I was still a fan of Alicia Silverstone.
SPEAKER_04Like, ooh, like this is a I probably think it's a cool collectible.
SPEAKER_05I'd buy it, but I but there's nothing to wear that with. You don't wear heffy shoes anyway. You'd have to go solid. Actually, I think I have an idea. But the shoe would have to be the main piece. And you can hate me, and this might be a hot take. Get away with black socks with this one. You know how anybody's like anti-black sock nowadays?
SPEAKER_04No one should ever wear solid color socks. So you wear white socks, don't you?
SPEAKER_05What's what what so what what fucking color sock do you wear on a regular basis? It's all kind of multicolor socks. I don't own a pair of solid color socks. That's wild. So you have no white socks. So when you go to the gym, you're putting on some multicolor bullshit.
SPEAKER_04Or at the gym I wear no-shows.
SPEAKER_05That's crazy. But you don't do anything athletic besides like lifting and shit, right? So you don't need like a why do you need a like the no-show socks?
SPEAKER_04I have to wear gym. I have running running socks. Yeah, those are thin though.
SPEAKER_06They're they're like uh compressor thicker.
SPEAKER_04They have padding in the in the toe. I know a lot about socks, man. Snowboarding for as many years.
SPEAKER_05So you don't own no gym socks. You own you own no gym socks. You wild man. I like a good white sock. Hate it. It's lazy.
SPEAKER_04Socks like an accessory.
SPEAKER_05No, it's not.
SPEAKER_04It's that little pop of color. Sure it is. Maybe to you. To me. Always.
SPEAKER_05That's too much. It's part of the outfit. It's part of the outfit. So you don't wear no plain white T's either, then?
SPEAKER_04No. I don't have I don't own any plain t-shirts. Like blanks. You just gotta have a stripe or a pattern.
SPEAKER_05Tank top? Does those have patterns and stripes and shit on them too? Uh yeah. So you don't own no solid.
SPEAKER_04I do have some solid white tank tops. I do have some solid white tank tops.
SPEAKER_05What happens when you do a lot of drugs? You just start acting stupid, talking crazy.
SPEAKER_04He's like, nah, you could ask Catherine, unsolicited, you could ask her, and she'd be like, yeah. He he doesn't own any solid color socks. I've dreamed.
SPEAKER_05No solid color t-shirts. No solid. So what do you wear? Like if you have to wear a button-up shirt, so you're just gonna it's all patterned.
SPEAKER_04All patterned.
SPEAKER_05Under the thing.
SPEAKER_04That's no, my shirts are all patterned. I know that my dress shirts and stuff are all patterned.
SPEAKER_05I get that. That's fine.
SPEAKER_04I wear a tank top underneath.
SPEAKER_05So is it a solid colored tank top?
SPEAKER_04It is a solid color.
SPEAKER_05Okay, there you go. I like to wear uh v-neck t-shirts under my dress shirts, especially when it's hot out. So you don't get that sweat mark right here.
SPEAKER_04It's fucking Texas, man. It's always hot.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. But the V-neck is is clutch, you know, especially when you sweat. I sweat like up until shoulder, up to my shoulders. This is where all the heat escapes my body. My feet, my hands, nothing else sweats besides my head and my lucky. Lucky? It's terrible. I was in a meeting the other last week. I was sweating like a slave, man. Crazy.
SPEAKER_04Sweating like a slave.
SPEAKER_05Happy June time. I don't know how you take it from that. Yo, people are wild. Yeah, I uh we went through, I didn't get to go through like all the comments I wanted to talk about.
SPEAKER_04I had to stop reading.
SPEAKER_05Um Reddit, they really were trashing us about something. I forgot what it was. They really hate us because we're old. Yeah, I know. Older. And like, why do we watch us? But they watch. Yeah. I mean, it comes across their algorithms, which is not really watching. They hate watch if they see it, but they don't come back for more.
SPEAKER_04So it's I don't get it. Honestly, I don't get it. I don't I don't get why people are just so ignorant on the internet. I just don't understand.
SPEAKER_05It's just people have their biases and they're horrible for the most part. And they have nothing else to do. You know what I mean? They're trolls, they just go out there and talk they shit and go on about their waste of time. I mean, we do it. We look, we scrollers. We're more scrollers than than commenters. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I don't know. I ever since like I got into content creation, I have a lot of respect for people that do this. So I try not to trash them on the internet.
SPEAKER_05What the the people that leave the comments?
SPEAKER_04No, the people that are making the content. I don't just go out there and just try you know troll people's content and talk shit.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I'm not gonna go. I've done it when people like misinform. So I re I shut down, I shut down this guy's whole Instagram page. He was he's talking some shit about like how Drake was um oh, he was saying how Drake only sold 13,000 physical units of the album and it proves that he's not relevant, blah blah blah, and send all this crazy shit. I get in the comments, I'm like, nobody buys physical copies unless you force them to. And he put out zero physical copies. So, like, you're telling me people who know that they have the option. So when you go on Apple Music, right, that you're paying $20 a month for, right? Are you gonna literally buy the whole album as a digital download? No. Yeah, this guy was like, oh, he sold $13,000 as a digital download. You know who's doing that? Motherfuckers who don't have internet readily available, or the motherfucker who literally doesn't want to pay for iTunes or whatever the fuck, Apple Music. So they go on iTunes, download it on their fucking iPod, and listen to I didn't even know you could buy a digital download anymore.
SPEAKER_04Exactly.
SPEAKER_05You didn't even know. But nah, like I took this dude was just talking all this crazy shit, and I started spitting facts, and then I said that I work in a business, and the next thing you know, I went back to look at the comments because people was like that. The numbers are running up on the likes on my on my responses. I go back and I thought he blocked me. I was like, oh shit. So I logged into my other account and I look for the guy's page and it's gone. And then my homeboy, shout out to Octavian. Actually, I he sent the link to this guy's Twitter page, the same guy lying and stuff, saying some shit uh about Drake. And I was like, yo, this is the same dude who I shut down the Instagram page on.
SPEAKER_04Said you shut him down on X?
SPEAKER_05Nah, I ain't got time for all that. But I just thought it wasn't it didn't even, I just it's like schooling, schooling them on understanding like how this stuff works. And that's the thing, like everybody thinks that they're an expert nowadays, and um, there's only a few people that really do it in a very articulate, formidable, respectable, you know, keep your attention manner to me. And I wouldn't even put myself as one of those people or any, like really any of us in that category, because it's hard to kind of push, you know, like um explain situations in a way that sways people opin people's opinion. Right?
SPEAKER_04I think we're like an influencer, yeah, like influencers, yeah.
SPEAKER_05But we're I think we're more like pundits in a way. Like we we have our you know, our uh opinions, but we don't try to like force an agenda. That's why when we say like literally, we like curry. I don't give a fuck. I'm just gonna I'll I'll go in the comments and talk shit. Or if I say I don't, I'm not gonna engage, I have my own opinion. A lot of people don't like what I say or don't understand me, or understand why you wear pigeon shit or whatever the fuck. I don't get it. I question it my damn self. I look at you like, what the fuck is this guy doing sometimes? You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_04Shout out to Jeff Staple. Shout out to Jeff Staples, but it's uh come on the show, be a guest already.
SPEAKER_05I mean, he's not paying attention. Uh it's hard to uh try to get people to you know become a follower of yours and hang on your every word. I'd rather be community and and you know, people who listen to us are like family. And and I see it. Like some of the dude, like there's this one person, they listen to the whole pod. I don't know where they're from. I looked them up to see if we could, you know, and find them on socials. Shout out to um Daisha something. They comment on all our YouTube videos. I'll actually I guess I think it's a her. Yeah, and they know the pod, they listen to the pod. So they know uh what we're talking about. It's uh Daisha Richmond or something like that. I think it's a female. Shout out, yeah. Is it Dachea Richmond? So uh I'm almost assuming it's one of Kari's people, like his grandma or something. But you know, he has more people that follow and listen to us, and and you know, and I don't it's it's so weird. None of my people listen to the podcast. Do none of mine do either. Isn't that weird? And you think that people would support your cause?
SPEAKER_04Not like it's a cause, but I'm just saying, like, it's my watch the clips, they like the clips, but they ain't they ain't listening to I I I if you don't listen to podcasts, it's just not something they would enjoy. Like no one in my house except for me and Travis listen to podcasts.
SPEAKER_05We all might everybody listen to podcasts. I had a couple of friends that tried to listen. Um, but it's not their cup of tea. Obviously, we talk about sneakers and shit. It's not pop culture. I think we're funny, but not that funny. Uh, you know, I might my bit of a speech impediment and and all that stuff. When did you develop a speech impediment? I have a speech impediment. I stutter a lot. I feel like it's just it's see, I'm doing it right now. It's hard for me to articulate myself without using connective language or connective sounds.
SPEAKER_04So really, whether I don't get that. Your speech cadence is pretty good. You're not like, like, like, like, uh, um, um, um yes, I am.
SPEAKER_05Oh, bro. Right? When yo, dude, when I get good sleep, I'm a fucking poet. I could I could just spit out the words and dude, like when I um did that. See, yeah, I said like right there. So so I said so. I catch all these things because I try to be better or do better. Uh like there was one time the the time you guys weren't here and I did a solo podcast, I recorded the whole thing and I was about to drop it, and then you guys were like, oh, let's do one tonight. This is like three or four episodes ago. It was episode 50. Uh, the one that was supposed to be episode 50, but I never put that out. I was spitting game and that shit, yo. I I was like, I was. So it's on the channel. I just never put it out because you guys recorded. I didn't want to do episode 50 by myself. And we talked about the same shit in the episode.
SPEAKER_04Just cut out episode 50 and make it episode 58 or whatever.
SPEAKER_05Nah, it's old materials, it's just whatever. I sat here talking to myself for an hour and a half. Uh, which was I never did that in my life. And I just but you know, I'll spit in the game, and I was like, all right, cool. Uh even in my YouTube videos, I try to cut out a lot of the ums and the ahs. I do some thorough editing on those, but it's not as bad because I kind of run off a script now. I kind of put bullet points together. So yeah, it's tough talking in public, but when you get in front of people, I am a fucking mastermind. I love talking in front of people. Once I get at the sweat and all that stuff, like I sweat a lot because I get scared, it's nerves. And then once I'm comfortable, man, you swear it's uh fucking John F. Kennedy up there or fucking Donald Trump or somebody that everybody listens to.
SPEAKER_04I gotta submit something this week for a talk, two-day seminar. They want me to they want to pay me to talk.
SPEAKER_05So that's nice.
SPEAKER_04Put putting some content together.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_05A motherfucker would pay me to talk. I'd do it.
SPEAKER_04It's not that much money. It's all baked in with travel and everything.
SPEAKER_05You get to travel somewhere, talk in front of an audience. Probably get a couple of free meals out of it too. And you're complaining. Yeah, I just I don't know.
SPEAKER_04I've I've l I just traveling for a living, it just the mystique wears off. I just don't like to travel anymore. It's a hassle.
SPEAKER_05I don't like the travel part. I like it once I get there and you know, kind of settle in my thing.
SPEAKER_04But I I don't like the the stress and anxiety of you know running through the airport, planes being delayed, all that shit. Running cars.
SPEAKER_05Now everything is delayed.
SPEAKER_04It's fucking and I'm bitter because I no longer have status. So that makes me a little bit better.
SPEAKER_05You ran out, used all your points.
SPEAKER_04No, I just after COVID, I stopped traveling.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. I have tons of points, but I don't my status is based off of the fees I pay every year to my platinum card and all these other fucking things. So I have really good status with Delta and American. I have both of their their um status cards, so I get the lounge access and all that. Is it worth it? $800 a year? No.
SPEAKER_04Not if you're not that AA lounge. And the AA lounge sucks. Sucks.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. I can't cancel the card though.
SPEAKER_04I'm already using it. So I hate that card.
SPEAKER_05Why? What'd it do to you?
SPEAKER_04Because you gotta also pay a yearly an annual fee. I'd rather pay my I'd rather do it for Amex.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah, and you don't get much for that annual fee because at least I have the Delta Amex um card. That you get a free buddy pass. So that's cool.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I think Amex has just got better perks. I'd not I feel like that city card or this the American era. City American Amaz it's just not good.
SPEAKER_05I I have it mainly because we we've flown American a bunch and the lounge access is kind of clutch, but their lounge sucks. The food is terrible, it's terrible.
SPEAKER_04It's it's actually lounge is better.
SPEAKER_05Oh man. Uh I've never been in Centurion, I've been in a regular Amex lounge. Uh the Centurion one is in Vegas and what other they just opened one up.
SPEAKER_04They have one in Philly. They have um there's a one in Atlanta.
SPEAKER_05There's not one in Atlanta, though, is there?
SPEAKER_04I think there is.
SPEAKER_05Oh, okay. I don't know.
SPEAKER_04I'm trying to remember. I forget where I was. I was stuck somewhere in the Centurion lounge. Anyway, their food's better, but they're just always small.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, food is fucking amazing. Breakfast there is great, man. They'd be having little little quiches and shit sometimes in the fucking it's way better than the slop American Airlines serves.
SPEAKER_04Oh my god. Trash.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Shout out to American Airlines. We are looking for sponsors.
SPEAKER_04And I used to I used to post to their Twitter back in the day when I was traveling all the delayed flights and canceled flights. And I was, I mean, I was on a plane three, four or four, five, anywhere from four to six times a week. So literally traveling back and forth and back and forth. So yeah. I would post all my travel issues to their Twitter.
SPEAKER_05You had a lot of time on your hands.
SPEAKER_04No, I was just petty. I was angry. Because they were costing me money, man.
SPEAKER_05I don't complain as much as I used to. I used to like not it's funny. I can't imagine what you used to. I don't complain. You don't. I mean, it's the point. I mean, there is a point to it, but sometimes you know, you take it on the chin, you get fucked up. Like I tell you what happened. I didn't tell you what happened. So um this is before I met you. Rented a car and we were in Napa, right? A little BMW drop top four series, right? So we could whip it around in Napa, you know, the you know, it's a nice wine country. You gotta have a nice little convertible. So I returned it back from sixth rental car. Fuck y'all. I drop it off, nothing wrong with the car. They they hit me up like, oh, you scratched a rim and charged me $700 for it.
SPEAKER_04You did tell me this.
SPEAKER_05I did.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Did I tell you what happened?
SPEAKER_04I don't remember, so keep keep saying it.
SPEAKER_05Oh, okay. I might have talked, told the story last week, but I'll tell it again. So I put it on my Amex card, and Amex has this built-in insurance program. So we're going back and forth, and then radio silence. Like obviously, I'm not reading these emails. I'm thinking the Amex person got this handled. They wanted me to send some something. I don't know what it was, a receipt or something to them, so they could do whatever. I never sent it. The shit goes unanswered for months. This is this is over, this is about two years, and then two 2024. I'm like, okay, they paid and it's gone. It's done. Whatever. I get an alert on my credit karma. Your your credit score drops 72 points. Holy shit. I go on there. Collection on you? Dog. 700. I was like, $712 for what? What the fuck is this? It says, call this collection company if you want to, whatever. So I called them, I'm like, yeah, and they said it's from sixth rental. I'm like, these motherfuckers, they put me in collection for 700. So like I paid it right then and there. I'm like, how long is this gonna? It might take up the 90 days.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, the credit thing is could even take longer.
SPEAKER_05Oh, and then they tell me they're gonna send me a letter and I can expedite it on my own by faxing them. I'm like, how do you fax something? I don't know how. So I have to figure that out. And then they I do I do they haven't sent me a letter yet, and I forgot to call them today. My credit score is like in the 600s now. Like overnight, it just went from seven, I think I was 730 something. It is pretty because you know, I have you know me, my credit cards, but it dropped down to under 700. 72 points it dropped. Yep.
SPEAKER_04I was like, credit's a scam.
SPEAKER_05It is a scam. You need it though, because you know, having that revolving debt, the ability to have revolving debts, you don't have to pay the man back. Yeah, when the world look, I'm betting on I want to keep a balance up until the day that they they hit they hit all the computers and AI takes over and just shuts everything off. It's not gonna happen.
SPEAKER_04Might not be that far away. I don't know.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, it could be a good thing.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, so I got I got an interest. So did I tell you what happened the other day? So I'm driving to work on was it?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, somebody took a shit in the urinal I was driving to work last week.
SPEAKER_04It was like last week. Settled to work and I leave pretty early, so it's like 6 30 in the morning, and I'm I'm driving, and there's this Camaro that just kind of blows past me.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I'm like, uh it's kind of early, but so I sped up, and then the next thing I so we're kind of like speeding up to the light. And the next thing I know, there's a pickup truck that pulls up next to me. And the guy in the pickup truck is screaming at me and pointing. I'm like, what the fuck's with this guy? I didn't do anything to him, and he keeps screaming and pointing at me. So I'm thinking, well, if he's not rolling his window down, well, maybe he's talking to someone on the phone or some shit, right? So I'm like, this guy's weird. Let me take off. So when the light turns green, I just, you know, floor it, just get out of the way. It was a cop. So he lit me up, pulled me over, and yo, he was so heated. He's like, You didn't realize I was a cop? I was like, You were in an unmarked car. No, I didn't realize you were a cop. Do you think I would have sped away if a cop was next to me? He's like, I was screaming at you to slow down. You and that Camaro. And I'm like, All right, I was like, sorry. I thought you were some crazy person yelling at me. We're in Texas. I don't know. You well, everyone has a gun. I was, you know, thought maybe I get shot. So he's thank god he let me go with a warning after he was.
SPEAKER_05You got let go with a warning. Yeah, I would have been shot. You know, that girl with those colors. Yo, shout out to White, because he's like a perfect example of white privilege here. I know it's a shitty story for you because you got pulled over.
SPEAKER_04No, I just thought it was funny. No, listen, I was happy as shit. You kidding me? I thought that never happens to me. I always get ticket.
SPEAKER_05Never see people. I don't get pulled over. Because black man in a nice car, especially if you drive a nice modest car. Like Tesla's a modest car, Tesla Model S is a modest car, and I don't speed.
SPEAKER_04So it's I drive a station wagon.
SPEAKER_05Come on, bro. They know what that is. Come on. It's a station, man. Nah, man. Now when that motherfucker, that that, that motherfucker with the car channel has like six of those. What's his name? Motherfucking has a cars and bids website. The quirks, the quirks and the features, and that guy. That's a new name. Quirks and features, man.
SPEAKER_04Quirks and features, man. I'm not connecting the dots, but it's also I'm I'm on so much medication right now, my brain is foggy. Doug DeMiro. Oh. No. Why don't I know this person? I don't know. I don't follow a lot of car content creators.
SPEAKER_05You don't follow car content creator? Doug? It's Doug DeMiro, I think. Doug Doug? Doug?
SPEAKER_04I do a lot more reading than I do like watching that stuff for cars.
SPEAKER_05Here he is. You'll recognize him when I pull up his picture. You've never heard of this guy, huh? That's crazy.
SPEAKER_04I don't know. It's not ringing a bell.
SPEAKER_05You're a car man, too. This man. You don't know Doug DeMiro?
SPEAKER_04I don't watch him. No.
SPEAKER_05What? He has like the best car channel ever. This is where I go to the car. Yo, he does all the time. This is one of his favorite cars, yeah. The eight RAs. Station wagon joint.
SPEAKER_044GT. Lamborghini Countash. Every Gen Xer's dream car.
SPEAKER_05I'm looking up his car collection right now. Since this has turned to a car podcast.
unknownOh.
SPEAKER_04I wish I had a car collection. You do have a car collection.
SPEAKER_05You do have a car collection. You have a car collection. How many cars do you have? Like three or four?
SPEAKER_04Three. I don't consider it a collection.
SPEAKER_05He has a Porsche. Porsche Career G s.
SPEAKER_04That's not just a yeah, the thing's insane.
SPEAKER_05He likes. Here's his uh is that the uh Panamera? No, it's I think it's a Mercedes. Oh, that's not a Mercedes. What is that? What the fuck is that car? He likes, no, I'm sorry. He likes the Mercedes station wagon, not yours.
SPEAKER_04Uh yeah. I no longer like him. I'm not gonna watch his shit.
SPEAKER_05Man. Yeah, he has the E class. He likes the the um E-Class wagon station wagon.
SPEAKER_04The E55 was cool. That was a cool wagon.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, he wasn't an Audi RS2 Avant A4 Quattro. Oh, these are all the cars that he's owned. I see, so yeah, it was the Mercedes wagon, not yours. M3. He's like very um Oh, wait, he does have one here, see?
SPEAKER_04That's that's the Audi, that's not an RS6.
SPEAKER_05I mean, it's an Audi something. That's an RS2 of Aunt, right?
SPEAKER_04Correct. They didn't have those in the States.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, he likes the rare, rare quirky cars. You never heard man, you gotta watch his channel. He's always saying quirky. This is his favorite car though, the EWE station wagon.
SPEAKER_04Is it an AMG at least?
SPEAKER_05I don't think so, maybe. Classic.
SPEAKER_04Worrying.
SPEAKER_05I don't know. Not a lot of people like the noise. I don't like noise. I love it.
SPEAKER_04They got valves in the exhaust. You can always close close them to make them quiet. No, you got man.
SPEAKER_05Once you get man, I'm gonna drive down to Texas and let you hold my Model S for like a month.
SPEAKER_04Never. No interest in electric car. My voice is about to go.
SPEAKER_05Should wrap it up then. Because we have gone almost two hours. Damn, we got two hours. I actually talked to Drew for two hours for the long that's the most I've talked to in a long time on a podcast.
SPEAKER_04I enjoy our conversations.
SPEAKER_05We do have good conversations. I wasn't disagreeing. Shout out to Kari who's these kids.
SPEAKER_04He's under the weather. I hope he feels better, man. That's bullshit.
SPEAKER_05If I had tetanus and the flu and the heebie jeebies or whatever, I still come through. So Kari, I hope you feel better. Just want to let you know. I hope you feel better.
SPEAKER_04He doesn't mean it.
SPEAKER_05He doesn't mean it. It's true. I don't even care. I hope you feel better. Nah, he's doing the thing. Shout out to Kari and everybody else who listens. But yeah, like, subscribe. Tell us uh what you think of this week. Should Drew and I dump Kari and just do a two-man show? Leave it in the comments below. I'm just you don't you have no sarcastic bone in your body, do you?
SPEAKER_04Uh that's not true. That is definitely not true.
SPEAKER_05Are you being sarcastic when you take things so personally or defensively?
SPEAKER_04Sometimes, yeah. Sometimes I'm being sarcastic. I'm pretty sarcastic. I don't think you could be Gen X and not be sarcastic.
SPEAKER_05I mean, we grew up on Seinfeld. Yeah, we grew up on Seinfeld and shit. That's one of the best shows ever. We listen to our favorite shows, and my top two were Kerbier Enthusiasm, Seinfeld, and then Oz.
SPEAKER_04God, Oz was crazy. Oz was so good.
SPEAKER_05But it was so many good besides the the little I don't want to say gay in a bad way, but it was kind of there was a lot of gay stuff with the prison rapes and all that stuff. The rape.
SPEAKER_04You could just say rape.
SPEAKER_05The rape, yeah. Like the with the gay stuff too. Like it just not that it's you know, do you love love love it all? But pause. But um, but like some of that stuff. Emerald was it? Emerald City? Is that what it was called? Yeah. Uh it's just crazy how much you could get away with in prison. Everybody's getting buck 15 and raped and all types of crazy shit. I'm like, how the fuck was there not a prison guard just standing there while you're smashing some dude in the open shower?
SPEAKER_04Ada BC. That's the name that always pops away.
SPEAKER_05Adobe with his little hat. Yeah, the little hat, oh man. Yo, that was guy who's getting he's a British. That's something we gotta talk about. They were talking about this on one of these YouTube's I was talking about. Why does every black character in Hollywood played by a foreigner? They turn off the camera, the motherfucker has a British accent. Like, what the fuck? How do you know the American black experience?
SPEAKER_04Well, I mean, Michael B. Jordan is American, right? He doesn't have an accent.
SPEAKER_05I'm talking about like movies where they put like Boys in the Hood part three or some shit, and then all the guys are fucking an Irish black guy, a British black guy, and a Nigerian black guy playing the boys in the hood. Like, what the fuck are we doing here?
SPEAKER_04That's it's they can never remake that movie.
SPEAKER_05I'm just saying, like, if they did something, that's what they would do. They would just put hire a bunch of um foreigners and and and make them like Harriet Tubman, you know? She it was a British black woman. Now, mind you, we we bitch about the little mermaid being, like white people bitch about Bill Mermaid being black. But the little mermaid didn't really exist. So it's like the little mermaid could be whatever the fuck color you want it to be. She could be Asian, purple, whatever, like whatever color you want to draw her. So it just happened to be a little black girl that did a good job. But like when you're playing like a slave or a fucking boy in the hood, or something that's literally like American. And I know it's acting and all that. These are sometimes they're fictional characters, sometimes they're real ones, but like that that black experience is very unique to black people in America. So I I would want to see that. It's it's sort of like okay, they're casting for the Garth Brooks documentary, or not documentary, like biopic. Sorry. And then they cast like fucking shabozy to play Garth Brooks.
SPEAKER_04I don't know if that's quite the same. No, I'm just saying that's like to me, that's like no, it would be the equivalent of somebody like literally someone from Britain coming in and playing Garth Brooks with a British accent.
SPEAKER_05They pick Hugh Jackman. He's actually I don't care.
SPEAKER_04I wouldn't care. He's British. I would not care.
SPEAKER_05So you if if in the Garth Brooks biopic, they picked Hugh Jackman to pay Garth Brooks? You would not care. You're not a Garth Brooks fan, I am. I want to.
SPEAKER_04Fucking Wolverine as Garth Brooks? Hell yeah. I'm pulling up for that.
SPEAKER_05I guess it's okay.
SPEAKER_04So it's selective outrage, I guess. I don't care. I don't care about that. I I can kind of see your point, but to me, I just I don't care.
SPEAKER_05No, but because I I get mad when black when white people complain about like the dumb fictional characters. You know, like the uh the whole thing now with the Odyssey. So um, what's her name? Um Niago, whatever her name is. You know I'm talking about that beautiful black woman. Um Lupita. Niago, Lupita, you know who I'm talking about, right? She's in Black Panther, I think. Lupita, you know who Lupita Niago is? She's beautiful.
SPEAKER_04I gotta look up the name.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. You know who she is, Lupita Niago.
unknownCome on, man.
SPEAKER_04I think I know who you're talking about. I don't think you're saying her name right.
SPEAKER_05Niango, Lupita Niago. I don't know how to say these damn African names, bro.
unknownIt's weird.
SPEAKER_04She's like coming up with a lizard.
SPEAKER_05She's like Mexican, too. It's just weird. They say she's from Mexico or born in Mexico or she's South American, but she's African. I got it. I pulled it up here. This lady.
SPEAKER_04Okay, yeah. Yeah, you know what I'm talking about, right?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, she's been in a lot of movies. So she's in the Odyssey. I think she plays um the main woman character, the most beautiful woman in the universe, apparently, whatever the fuck. I don't know anything about Odyssey. No, no, no. I want to say Cleopatra wait, I don't even know anything about the Odyssey. Uh Lupita, the Odyssey. Okay, I'm I'm pulling it out. Helen of Troy. She plays Helen of Troy. Okay. Now Helen of Troy is a fictional character. Now I can see now kind of why white people were kind of pissed. Because I guess those people in the Odyssey are supposed to be white people in the books, maybe. I don't know.
SPEAKER_04I I think it it was always she was Helen of Troy was always portrayed as a white woman, as far as I in in movies. Yeah, I think you're just you have a bias that you're just used to seeing that character as a white person.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, but they haven't made the Odyssey in decades, I don't think. When was the last time they did the Odyssey? Like the 60s, maybe I don't even know like Ben Hur and all those types of fucking movies. Ten Commandments. Fucking Clash. Remember Clash of the Titans? That was one of my favorite movies ever. When the fuck did that come out?
SPEAKER_04I used to watch that shit. Early 80s or late 70s?
SPEAKER_051981. That was that movie was good. So badly. Um such bad, like uh such nostalgia stuff. Oh, such a good movie, yeah. Kind of figured Medusa came out the rocks and was like, she got flames out the head, and then Zeus came down and all the shit. But either way, like I can see why white people you kind of pissed at a black one, but who cares at this point in time? Yeah, I I don't I should stop caring about British people playing blacks. I have no skin in the game anyway. I'm half Filipino and Caribbean. I have no skin in this American black culture game. Besides the fact I love I love rap music and I was born here and I'm an American black person, but I'm not gonna go into that too deep. But like, yeah, people make a big deal out of nothing, really.
SPEAKER_04You know, yeah, I it's just stupid. I mean, you could be like, I wish or I'm used to seeing this as a white person, but I honestly give maybe you'll like it better.
SPEAKER_05Nah, these people just have this like bigotry in in their soul, they just don't see anything past being white. It has to be white, everything has to be white. I'm like, bro, you never like really who cares. But then I'm bitching about, you know, Boys in the Hood Part 6 being a bunch of British, British and African guys. Hey, I'm a hypocrite, people.
SPEAKER_04I think that's the title of the episode.
SPEAKER_05Hypocrite? I'll write that down. I did have a title. Um, somewhere in the beginning of the episode. Hippo. Hippo. Hippo crit. Oh man, I just thought of something funny. I'll tell you it later. I can't spell that all wrong. Anyway, that's been another 12 hour podcast. We'll be back on track next week with with we did talk about a lot of sneaker stuff this week. We did. We did proud of that.
SPEAKER_04Made up some some some ground, even though there's not a lot to talk about.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. And we didn't get too in-depth. That's the thing if we were talking about the resale thing, that would have been a really in-depth conversation. If Kari were here. We may jump into those waters. Who knows? He brings that nuance up and he just like explains it like a fucking professor. And I'm like, oh, you know so much about sneakers.
SPEAKER_04He's a smart guy. That's a smart man right there.
SPEAKER_05He don't know the best combinations of medicines to get him up for a damn show, though.
SPEAKER_04Oh my gosh, bro. You're sick, you're sick, man. I don't know. I I was literally in bed all weekend. I felt so bad.
SPEAKER_05You came on the podcast sick a couple weeks ago. Yeah. See, we just built different. Told you this generation's weak, bro. They stub their toe. They have to take three week three weeks off, like mental leave and all types of shit. What do they call that shit? Um you have to take off for mental illness.
SPEAKER_04Oh, uh FMLA. Family medical leave.
SPEAKER_05My life. Yo, somebody told me that. Yo, real talk. A co-worker was like, you should take FML, because I was stressed about something, right? You should take FML, like, fuck my life. What is that? What are you talking about? Family medical leave. You never medical leave because I'm stressed out? Are you serious?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, you're short-term. You can go out on short-term disability.
SPEAKER_05Fuck out of here, bro. That's a weakness, mental weakness, bro. That's legit, man. Stress and anxiety at work under pressure. Nah, you just you when you're stressed, anxiety, you break down one day, cry, hit your head on the brick wall, and get right back to work. Or become alcoholics and drug addicts.
SPEAKER_04Like, yeah, but the problem is you gotta show up the next day and get it beaten again and again and again. And again, just let it out.
SPEAKER_05Like I'm very, I'm an emotional person. I don't repress my emotions. And that's part of the reason why I try to I try to maintain, I maintain my sanity. Because I'm very open about those things. It's not a lot of people can't be, or hard, it's hard to for them to be. But um that helps me get through it. And I joke when I say, you know, go take your FML, fuck your my life, leave, or whatever. It's it's to each his own, but I just don't do that.
SPEAKER_04I just I just I just you know I'm telling you, corporate America has a way of grinding on you in an inhumane way. So it depends on if you're happy with your your I've never in in my line of work, I've never gone into work where someone is excited to be there. My voice.
SPEAKER_05Oh no. My old job I was.
SPEAKER_04Um but you're in a creative environment too.
SPEAKER_05I make it creative. I make myself like I I find ways to make my job fun.
SPEAKER_04Uh try to my team is 3,800 people.
SPEAKER_05So you're just a cog.
SPEAKER_04That's just for one program running at the back. Like literally, 3,800 people are working on this. It's massive at scale.
SPEAKER_05Don't don't ruin the don't mess up your NDAs and shit. Wouldn't want you to lose your uh your your position in life here out of 3,800 people. I pretty much work by myself and kind of just do my own shit. And if I fuck up, I get scrutinized for that. But I kind of like it now because it makes sense. There's no there's no movement, there's no up or down. I know where my where I stand and this thing. Comfort's good. It's not comfort. I don't like being comfortable.
SPEAKER_04It has its it has its moment.
SPEAKER_05I mean, yeah, if you make the money and shit, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, but also when you need it the most. Because let's just say you have a bump in the road, you have stability at work. It's important when things are not stable around you.
SPEAKER_05That's true.
SPEAKER_04All right, I gotta bounce me. My voice is just gone to shit. It's about like literally.
SPEAKER_05Oh, appreciate you staying. Have a wonderful night. You too, brother. Episode 57, 12 podcast. See you all next week. Like, like, comment, subscribe. Hit up Kari, tell him to get out of bed. See you next week. Tell them to feel better. Later. Kari feel better. Bye.
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