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Age Proof: Unlock the Real Fountain of Youth
What if the secret to staying young isn’t a myth, but just hidden in plain sight?
Age Proof is where real science meets real-life results.
Each episode brings you inside conversations with doctors, biohackers, and longevity experts who are redefining what it means to grow older. Together, we unpack breakthrough treatments, debunk outdated health myths, and explore everything from anti-aging supplements to the newest regenerative therapies.
No trends, no shortcuts, just practical, science-backed tools to help you feel better, move better, and stay sharp as you age.
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WE TRIED EVERY DIET SO YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO. HERE’S WHAT HAPPENED!
From fat-burning pills to pizza during hospital shifts, we get real about food and supplements.
In this episode, we share honest stories about our experiences with different diets and supplements, including the intense effects of tesofensine, a strong weight-loss drug that comes with wild side effects.
We talk about trying everything from the Mediterranean diet to keto and carnivore, and how food quality—like grass-fed vs. processed—really matters. You’ll also learn why eating protein first can help with hunger and how tools like glucose monitors can show how your body reacts to different foods.
This episode is full of real-life stories, laughs, and simple tips for anyone trying to eat better, lose weight, or just feel healthier, especially with a busy lifestyle.
welcome to the age-proof podcast, where we talk about everything. Age proof yeah, stay healthy yeah, what we? Got going on.
Speaker 2:This week you try anything new uh I got a lot of new stuff going on but I know you've tried a couple things in the last couple weeks, so let's, let's go over.
Speaker 2:Well, it's mainly like I, I don't know, and we are actually going to coordinate stuff with Level Up their pharmacy with peptides from Australia that has all these oral supplements, peptides, that the owner is like hugely scientific, scientific, and I'm trying to get him he, he wants to be on our podcast and I want to talk with him through a lot of his wealth of knowledge of peptides. I have a wealth of knowledge, but this guy, like scientifically knows how to mix them. What's going to be the form, yeah, and he gets high quality stuff and I actually like touch base with him because of that. Um other supplement I took that, the testophenicine. I had taken it before and he's like, no, this is real stuff and that's, it's highly potent, that's what you're feeling. I thought it was something else in there, but he's like, no, it's the, actually the testophenicine like sweating and yeah.
Speaker 2:So like I started just putting, like you know, opened up the capsules and only putting like a quarter of it in water and drinking it, I still got sort of the effect, but I didn't feel like because with that you felt like you hit it. You were like hit by a train, Like you know how you go and do like a leg workout and you feel like you get hit by a train. That's how I felt I'm like, and some of the workouts I've been doing recently, like the leg workouts, I do feel that way at the end of it and this was like automatically taking you there, you know.
Speaker 2:Without even working out. Without even working out, and it's, I think the cold intolerance was like the worst part of it, like I felt like I needed more and more blankets or coats on, so you like, give yourself chills, yeah. I can use it in this during the summertime in Arizona and people are going to be like what's wrong with you walking outside with?
Speaker 1:a hoodie on Sweater. Yeah, how long did it last, for it was like probably four to six hours.
Speaker 2:It a long time. It wasn't just it's pretty long. Yeah, it wasn't just quick recovery. So that's because, if you could quickly get over it, you're like oh, whatever that's like you know?
Speaker 1:no, it lasted quite a while yeah, that is a while and it's intense it's.
Speaker 2:When I tell you it's intense, it intense, and it says one to two capsules. And I was about to take two capsules but I was like all right, Since my whole thing with semaglutide, I was like let me titrate into this one. So you took one capsule. Yeah, because just getting healthier, I think everything has so much more of an effect at even lower doses.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, so this pretty much lasts as long as a mushroom trip. Yeah, yeah pretty much and you can't exit out. That's the part you're like okay, I'm done, I'm out of here. Like, get me out of here.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So so what you feel, exactly and did you see anything on like the metrics with like your aura ring or um well, my aura ring would say you got something going, something minor is happening, your temperatures, your temperatures elevated. You know um?
Speaker 1:did your heart rate go?
Speaker 2:up? Um, I don't think so, not really. No, okay, no, the heart rate was fine. Mental clarity was like dude, I thought I was on fire. I definitely felt like I was functioning at a different level. It was definitely like powerful, and then it also like satiety-wise. You didn't want to eat either.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Well, there's a lot of things that can make you not want to eat like well, like yeah, well, tesafenazine, kind of that's why it was originally medication studied for dementia and stuff, because it was like it's serotonin, norepinephrine, dopamine receptor uptake inhibitor and like that kind of that's why it was studied. But then they saw all the Alzheimer's people were losing weight, so they stopped the study and it was taken off and now people are starting to use it for weight.
Speaker 1:Wait, I remember taking that drug.
Speaker 2:Yeah, on top of that, I I was like still taking methylene blue at the time because I cycled through methylene blue. So methylene blue will also increase your serotonin level. So like it's almost like uh, what is serotonin sickness?
Speaker 1:it's like you have too much serotonin in your system, so I think that would even make it worse yeah, because if you're taking methylene blue, you'll actually decrease the amount of ssri if you're on ssri.
Speaker 2:Some people come off ssris when they shouldn't really be on ssri I don't take ssris, but no one should be. Yeah, just yeah, it's not.
Speaker 1:I'm not a fan of SSRIs anyways, I really don't think they do anything.
Speaker 2:I remember like my parents' friend was like handing it out like candy, like anyone that. That's a Henny doctor I know, I know it's just like big pharma bullshit like.
Speaker 1:Oh, you went to sleep last night and woke up. How about an ssri?
Speaker 2:you're not happy with your wife? Her life like how about an?
Speaker 1:ssri. Is your wife yelling at you for not making the bed?
Speaker 2:here's an ssri instead of looking at them as a whole, like where's, where's your hormone level, where's your overall health? Yes, that's where we break into like so what diets have you tried? I know like I can ramble on about like everything I've tried.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I do want to go I do want to jump into, like the diets you've tried. Yeah, I will tell you what's worked for me. Yeah, we've, like they say, mediterranean diet yeah like we, we pretty much have had a mediterranean diet yeah from like like growing up yeah being iranian, but it is like okay, what's heavy in your diet, what?
Speaker 1:what makes a difference? I do think there's something, not necessarily like gluten related, but something in the way grains are grown and harvested in the US. Yeah, that really gets people like not necessarily sick, but like down that diabetic track or like like speed rushes them through that. Yeah, yeah. So I do like low carb diets because of that, not necessarily like recently I've been eating a decent amount of sourdough bread that justifies like oh, it's sourdough, it's good for you and and I feel I feel better. Yeah, like I don't?
Speaker 2:well, I was just listening to joe rogan like and he was saying he's like rogan's, like the well he talks about carnivore expert. Yeah no, but he was talking with uh, was it paul? I think he was on with huberman and they were talking about it and he was saying how, like he can have steak and rice when, when he was on the carnivore diet, he'd have rice and he's totally fine.
Speaker 1:Why is rice part of a carnivore diet, though?
Speaker 2:I'll discuss carnivore diet because it's not like overly all just meat, but, like he said, like anytime he'd splurge on pasta he feels like shit, yeah and heavy and everything but like when he's eating rice. He has no issues with rice. He's actually energized and goes and works out and stuff with rice, but like what kind of rice is he having?
Speaker 2:I know basmati, basmati if you eat basmati rice like, cooked appropriately, I think you know. Over here, like in arizona, I found this new persian restaurant. That's like their food is freaking addictive and you can be on a straight carnivore diet because the guy gives you the guy gives you like all right, this is not a paid advertisement.
Speaker 1:But what is his place called? Kebab grill and go it's like one of the best, best persian foods in town.
Speaker 2:Oh, the food is so good. And then he gives you like three pounds of chicken per. You know, like my family get, we get two of the platters and we're eating it for like four days. You know, and you can't stop, like I can't wait to go home and eat it and like even as rice, you eat as rice with the chicken and you don't feel down. Then you go to Persian Room. I have a bite of Persian Room. I feel like crap and I almost. And everyone always says like, oh, you're Iranian, do you go to Persian Room? And I'm like, yeah, their food they're. Like, oh, their food's so good.
Speaker 1:I'm like I wouldn't go there. Well, technically, all my rooms are Persian, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like the stuff is like, so I don't know so heavy, and any time my wife wants to order food.
Speaker 1:Dude, I get this shit so fast and it's been like every time has been worse and worse. And it's been like every time has been worse and worse. Like if I measure the time from me eating that food to going to the bathroom, it's been less and less and I'm just like what the hell is going on?
Speaker 2:It feels like they ground the beef with some rocks in there. It feels like you're eating rocks or asphalt or cement, because it just sits in your stomach like a rock.
Speaker 1:It's like Jim Gaffigan, this Hot Pocket skit. That's what I think of all the time. It's like oh, now they make vegetarian Hot Pockets so you can remove the Hot Pocket out of the sleeve and place it directly in the toilet. It's like this is what we're doing with Persian food or Persian roux. We're like, oh okay, take it straight off the platter, just drop it right in the toilet. Skip the whole step where you're involved.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I almost pretty much like my wife wants to order it. I'm like my kids like the rice. It's tasty, it's delicious, yeah. They make it taste good, but they're adding some type of laxatives or something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I can make great rice and you know like even I've tried to just not eat the rice and eat their proteins. Just lick the meat a little bit. Yeah, you're like oh man, it smells so good you get closer and your bowels just go like yeah, yeah so nuts, yeah, mediterranean diet, so like so what?
Speaker 2:what's the mediterranean like? How do you follow that? And I've been trying to like wrap my head around it, but, like you know, people say it's more like being a pescatarian than but, like you know, you're still eating lamb and meat.
Speaker 1:It's pretty much like what we grew up on. That's why everybody's like, oh, Mediterranean diet. I'm like, oh, that's just my diet. Like I don't know what you're talking about, okay, olive oil.
Speaker 2:A lot of it's just unprocessed food. That's what you got to have. It's like don't have like Kraft mac and cheese, go and grind up your own pasta and cheese.
Speaker 1:That's the thing. It's like the extra step, like getting the dough. Getting the dough, getting the yeast, like doing the whole process, I think makes a huge difference. Yeah, that's why I've been trying to like I want to get a glucose monitor before I go like full-fledged on this.
Speaker 2:I got my first one.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And it didn't work, so I have one you have no glucose in your system. Yeah, Probably they're like you're all screwed up.
Speaker 1:Honey, you so sweet. You're going to give me diabetes.
Speaker 2:After I got that one, one of my friends told me the Oura Ring actually carries a glucose monitor. I'm like I should have just gotten theirs. It's not that expensive.
Speaker 1:They have a Fetuche salad monitor. It's like 8% fattoush salad running through your system.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I got a Mediterranean diet book and I was like, oh, it didn't really like it had everything in there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it's like you know it's like, this is my regular diet. Yeah so it's hard, for I will tell you like, um, when I was in residency, like I was eating, like crap yeah I.
Speaker 1:I went keto for about a year, yeah, and then did intermittent fasting. Yeah, I dropped like a good like 20 30 pounds, yeah, because I was like I got up to like here's the story. I got up to 210 and I felt myself jiggle when I walked fast from room to room and I was talking to a couple of nurses. I was like I need to lose some weight and they're like yeah, you're okay, you don't need to.
Speaker 1:They're being nice to me and it's like no, I need to do it and I forgot I talked to him about it. And then two months later they're like, oh, how's that diet going? I'm like, oh, I'm up 15 pounds since we last talked. So then I was just like dude. I felt miserable Not miserable, but I was dragging. It was like straight up dragging everywhere, and I was just like I got to do something. I went keto and then for about a year and then added intermittent fasting, yeah, and I dropped probably like 30 pounds. Yeah, like I got down to like 185. I got down to like wrestling weight for undergrad.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:From like a top of like 220. And I felt good. I was just like you know what, if I feel good, I'll maintain at that. And the one thing I might as well mention it here it was just like I was taking prescribed Adderall also, which is an appetite suppressant. Yeah, that's the one thing I was just like looking was taking prescribed adderall also, which is an appetite suppressant. Yeah, that's the one thing I was just like. Looking back, like why am I having? Like when I'm doing keto I can't get the weight off as easily? Uh, I do think that made a slight bit of a difference, but I'm like down to like 195.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like the thing is like when you try to go back on keto. Um, one thing to do is like, if you have leaky gut or any issues like that, I think, like when you try to go back on keto, you have more of a problem with bowel habits.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and there's just stuff like if I'm pooping like that, something's not right.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's just like it should be like I'm doing something wrong.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like my body shouldn't be rejecting all this food, like I'm in a third world country.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the thing was like I was on keto diet, pretty like I got you on that whole thing the butter, coffee or the bulletproof coffee um, and like I felt great on it because, like you're pretty much trying to drive that ketosis, I was like testing my finger sticks every day and making sure I was always in ketosis, like your mind works and functions a lot better. Um, I think right right now I'm pretty much at the same level without being in ketosis, um, just doing a lot of other things to optimize it. But I went to Italy and like I didn't eat much pasta or pizza and stuff, even when we were in italy.
Speaker 1:Some of it, yeah, more than 20 grams worth.
Speaker 2:But when I came, back and was on keto diet. I could not lose any weight, and it was like after that italy trip, I couldn't lose any weight on the keto diet. That's when I stopped it. It was hard to maintain too. Um, what did you think with the keto diet?
Speaker 1:I've been not technically keto. Yeah, I did like probably like a quarter pound of sourdough before we got here today, but um, I I do try to limit myself to 20 grams of carbs a day, but you probably take a lot more than that.
Speaker 2:You think it's 20.
Speaker 1:No, exactly that's my target. I'm probably at 40 grams, but there's different diets, there are 20 grams 30 grams, 40 grams of net carbs. I do really try to stay under 40 grams, but it's just hard being in the hospital and, yeah, and like I would rather eat healthy than reduce carbs. Yeah, so like when I was on that keto diet during residency where I dropped all that weight, yeah, like I felt great. My ldl shot up. It was like twice the amount of normal. Yeah, because I was eating like pork rinds, processed red meat.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like, just like that oh yeah, I can buy cold cuts in a vending machine. Yeah, like I could.
Speaker 2:That there's no, that's where that's where you're, because I I was on keto diet. My cholesterol was like my hdl was high and my ldl was low. Um, and even my low small particles, they were all in check, like I never, you know, they never went shot up.
Speaker 1:So this is after training, though right it's hard to do in medical training, where even in medical training.
Speaker 2:The thing was I was in new york and like I followed paleo and then went keto because in new york there was a fantastic place for catering and I used to go and pick up prep meals, yeah, and you could choose, like what you wanted, and they actually it was like right next to my crossfit gym and their food was like so good. I used to go and like, just like pick up so much stuff yeah, yeah, I used to.
Speaker 2:I was like I need to open up one of those here, because they used to have just like good cuts of filet mignon and uh, like even chicken and like, and then you choose your vegetables and stuff with it. So, um, that, that was a. That was a great place. It was easy to stay on paleo with their food. So, okay, yeah, right now we don't have those choices in new orleans yeah, you just choose fried chicken and binaise and gas station chicken you don't know, gas station brothers chicken, it's a chain and
Speaker 1:most of them are like. It's either like a fast mart or a gas station. Rob came down one time and he's just like we had a long night out about to crash. He was like, oh dude, before you go home, just stop by, like McDonald's or something. I was like McDonald's Fuck McDonald's, we're going was like McDonald's fuck McDonald's, we go, we're going to get some good gas station chicken. And we stopped by, uh brothers, and we each got like a like a four piece meal. I had a couple of pieces of chicken, fries and soda and we just ate it in the parking lot and he's just like dude. I got to go in and get some more. He went in and came back with a 10-piece. He's just like dude, it makes no sense to buy any less. It's like a dollar a piece for a piece of chicken. It's like a whole quarter of a chicken. He's like God. It's like a whole quarter of a chicken. He's like God.
Speaker 1:And we sat there and out of the 10 pieces we crushed like nine pieces. We had like one piece left and we were just like we got to do this. It was like 5 in the morning. There's a gas station down the street from my house. There's definitely a couple people been shot there in the last two months. It's New Orleans. You expect that West Bank.
Speaker 2:Actually, we just sat there and just like didn't feel good about it, but we made it happen. Was that during your paleo diet? No, it was not. Or keto diet it was not.
Speaker 1:That was when I was ramping up to 220. That's when I was getting into my jiggly face.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like going through these diets and like it kind of. Sometimes, though, like you do get food anxiety and like diet burnout and stuff from just like worrying about like what do you mean what not to eat? About that for me. It's, like you know, trying to stay away from seed oils or processed foods and stuff like that and, like you know, when you're in the hospital kind of guilty eating a sirloin yesterday.
Speaker 1:There's a good, good cut sirloin.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Anytime I go out I try to, you know, I want to go to a good steak place because I want warm steak. I don't want, you know, like.
Speaker 1:I have a chef that cooks for me.
Speaker 2:But like steak isn't good when you're like reheating it and stuff.
Speaker 1:That is true, but it's also the quality of the cut, yeah, right.
Speaker 2:So if it's also the quality of the cut, yeah right, yeah, so if it's crappy piece of meat, no, it's not crappy piece of meat.
Speaker 1:No, no, I know, not for you, but like if, if you go out and start off with a crappy piece of meat.
Speaker 2:I'm really thinking of doing this carnivore diet, though. I'm like gonna eat meat, just eat meat, and I like where's a good place that I can order good meat like grass fed meat that I can eat it for breakfast, lunch and dinner. You might have to grow it yourself.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, but you need to grow some grass.
Speaker 2:I think the hospital will freak out because some of the people made fun of me for being how he used to be vegan for lunch or vegetarian for lunch.
Speaker 1:That was the biggest bullshit ever, dude. Somebody was like, oh, who is it? One of our friends is like I'm vegan and he's like, yeah, I'm vegan for like the better half of the day. You can't say that. He's like, no, I'm serious, I eat vegan for like breakfast and lunch.
Speaker 2:No, he's vegan because he doesn't want to kill animals well, vegans, you can't say, oh, I don't eat meat, I didn't. I didn't even know that at the time I was like, uh, vegetarian vegan, what the hell's the difference?
Speaker 1:I had a friend in med school uh, because vegetarians, I think, like because vegetarian is not necessarily healthy. I had a friend in med school. He was like no, they use seed oils and stuff.
Speaker 2:Like vegans, like kind of stay away from, like all that. Not necessarily, not really.
Speaker 1:Not really.
Speaker 2:That's what I thought.
Speaker 1:Dude, then you just pound like pea protein and soy and stuff, because I would see like people that were like unhealthy and they're like I'm vegetarian. I'm like, oh yeah, my friend in med school was just like I was a little drunk when he mentioned it, but it was like, oh yeah, I'm vegetarian. I looked at I was like you're way too overweight to be vegetarian.
Speaker 2:It was like you gotta eat more lettuce bro like what is going on here, yeah, yeah, and like, um, what are you doing? Deep frying all of that? Well, like that's like one of the podcasts has listened to. They were saying, like how, like india is even turning more there, there's more people going towards the carnivore diet. Where, what? Yeah, where they india, india, india, they're all going to hell. I know, they actually ship.
Speaker 1:They're one of the largest producing of meat. What type of meat, though? Lamb and goat? No cows too.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, that's so sacrilegious, I know, but they sell it for profit. They're not eating it. So there's some family making billions there yeah, from just meat. That's crazy. Diabetes is huge there and insulin resistance. But they put cream in, like so much stuff. Heavy cream, yeah, heavy cream, butter chicken some good stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but it's all heavy cream, yeah, like. I mean it's called butter chicken. That probably translates to like just like lard and chicken. Yeah, just throw that in a pot and put some orange food coloring in there yeah, so so what?
Speaker 2:so what? The carnivore diet thing. So what I was reading is like you're 80 of your I think it's like 80 of your diets just meat, and then the other 20 can be whatever. But, like you know, paul saldano talks about it. He's like a physician that is big into the the carnivore scene and he's in costa rica and he's big with t-rexes and other meat eating uh animals.
Speaker 2:So he, he does fruits because he has issues with, like, I think, eczema and stuff, and so he does fruits, but he says he doesn't do vegetables at all, so he stays away from vegetables altogether.
Speaker 1:Um, and, that's pretty cool, just yeah, just from like the sound of of it. I don't do vegetables, I'm like the anti-vegetarian.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he says I don't know. And that's the thing is when you test your gut and stuff for me. I don't like bell peppers much anyways. I love bell peppers and when I got my microbiome and stuff checked it said that I'm allergic to peppers and stuff and I do feel worse when I eat cooked peppers. Yeah, what else are you allergic to? I don't know. I forget I didn't.
Speaker 1:That was it. I didn't read through it I. I did it more for the microbiome, but it told me stop that bell peppers it told me, my heart is broken, like I can't go on the other stuff I didn't eat anyway, so I didn't care.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, but like, but, like a lot of it was like staying away from like doing the carnivore diet would be against my religion, because it was like you don't eat red meat and don't. It's like that all all sorts of the protein I could take in it was like even like chicken and stuff. I was like what the hell is this?
Speaker 1:I'm like there's no way. Yeah, I know Nutrition. Yeah.
Speaker 2:So I was like uh, how do I, how do you expect me to get my protein?
Speaker 1:I don't know, there is some stuff that just doesn't agree with me. Yeah, and I agree with me. Yeah, and I just refuse to accept the fact that it doesn't agree with me. Yeah, just like. Yeah, you know we're in a developed world, so like, a little diarrhea isn't gonna kill me, you know, like you, just stay hydrated. Worst case scenario, I'll go. I'll go go get iv line put in and get some extra iv. It's diarrhea, it it'll pass. This too shall pass. That's what I think on the toilet all the time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I. Just my main thing is trying to stay away from sugars and processed foods, definitely Not even ultra processed foods. Processed foods Like ultra processed is completely off the table, and I think, like from a young age you got to teach your kids, you know, of course the grandparents come in and feed them fries and garbage food, but you got to try to, you know I'm a sucker for like vegetables.
Speaker 1:That's where, like I'm just like, I see the small package good italian salami.
Speaker 2:I'm like I know it's processed. But is it really processed?
Speaker 1:it is, it is, it is I'm just like where's the usda grade? Like uh yeah, is that grass-fed salami is like no, that is just a sloppy piece of pork shit like just you're gonna eat it or grind it up? But like sometimes you just can't help yourself.
Speaker 2:Like, yeah, all right, a little bit of diarrhea, here we go I usually I don't know I I stay away from the like I used to get the charcuterie boards but like I say I do a good job at staying away from it, but at least once a month, maybe once every two weeks, yeah, I give in.
Speaker 1:I'm like ah, here we go. Yeah, like, just give me that salty satisfaction. Like it's just meat with salt.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like dry meat with salt especially with some cheese, some good parmesan cheese.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah glass of red wine that I just pour in the sink? I'd rather not.
Speaker 2:The other thing like how about milk? What are your thoughts on milk?
Speaker 1:If you're going to do milk, just do fucking hardcore milk. Whole grass-fed milk. Yeah, yeah, yeah Right. Fuck oat milk, fuck almond milk.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I used to like.
Speaker 1:If you're going to do it, do it.
Speaker 2:I had this mindset of like is evil. And then I'm feeding my kids milk like every day and I'm like now I like before. You used to buy that crappy milk and I used to chug like a gallon a day and my dad's like what the hell we used to?
Speaker 1:we used to drink at least like we were told. Like we're gonna drink, you're gonna drink three glasses of milk, even if we like couldn't afford anything else especially it was on sale three glasses of milk or you're going to hell yeah like it's, it's it that, that was it, yeah like I used to chug it out of the bottle.
Speaker 1:A lot of milk, yeah and we used to pound flintstone vitamins remember that time where mom left us alone. We were like what? 9, 10? And there's a. It was like the Costco Flintstone vitamins bottle. We finished it. She came back and was like what I just bought that today? It tasted good. We can't afford candy, so this is what we decided on a pound.
Speaker 2:Yeah, good, we can't afford candy, so this is what we decided about. Yeah, um, yeah, like milk. You know everyone plays dairy as evil. I'm like I'm eating cheese, I'm like, and staying away from milk. And then you know, I'm like, oh, like you can put some of this whole.
Speaker 1:It's not like honestly I don't know, but it's a good dose of protein and then calcium, and then you're getting like whey protein that's made from milk. So how does that make sense? The only reason I'm a fan of milk is because I do not believe in the alternatives.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like oat milk, almond milk, coconut milk, whatever. All that's processed right, whatever it is, it's not like, it's not natural give you whatever comes out of a teat yeah, as shy would call it cookies if it's not produced by cookies. I don't want none of it yeah, but.
Speaker 2:But like the grass-fed milk has like good omega-3s and overall it's like great for you. So I kind of believe, like keeping it to with anything you got, to keep it to moderation.
Speaker 1:But it's crazy what we grew up on. You need to drink three glasses tall glasses of milk to be healthy, or else you're going to die. Yeah, apples and milk. Yeah, apple a day, three glasses of milk. What else were we fed?
Speaker 2:Well, there was the Ramadan fasting.
Speaker 1:Oh god, yeah, you ever fast for the whole month of Ramadan.
Speaker 2:No, I did it a few times. It was more for wrestling season. When I fell on wrestling season it was easy to do. What else we got about diets. So some of the things I read like today I was reading an article on, you know, like the way you eat, like your diet. You know well with the carnivore diet they say like fiber, you don't necessarily need fiber, fibers would you read that in like a sponsored gq article or is it pubmed?
Speaker 1:no, no, they were saying.
Speaker 2:They were saying people need fiber because of, like, all the bad, malnourished stuff that you take in, undernourished, like foods that you take in. So what washes it out?
Speaker 1:so the fiber like yeah, it's people talking.
Speaker 1:It stops you from carnivore diet, though, like people that are pro carnivore diet, they're gonna be a pro fiber or against fiber okay because they, they, they stay strictly away from vegetables you can see like strictly, like here is the sirloin faction and here is the chia seed factions. Like you cannot, I I think chia seeds are pretty healthy for you. Yeah, I think most people don't take enough fiber. Yeah, and I think it's. It's good, because fiber you don't absorb it but it like kind of like scrapes the insides clean that's the whole.
Speaker 2:It's like you got to take in high fiber because of all the like processed foods and stuff you're taking in. So that kind of clears it out. It's like the steel wool for your colon. Yeah, that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 1:Three tablespoons of chia seeds. I was pounding chia seeds while I was on keto diet. There we go. Yeah, all you eat is chia seeds.
Speaker 2:So with high-protein diet it's still my go-to for losing weight and everything you can take a decent amount of fats, but like the way to eat your meals. Instead of, you know, eating your salad or vegetables first, you should be eating your protein first, because that's going to increase your glp-1 release, so you're going to hit satiety much earlier, and then followed by your fibers and then everything else. So if you're going to eat, that's going to get you protein first. So have your steak first and then go to your vegetables and everything, like the other mashed potatoes yeah yeah.
Speaker 1:Don't the Europeans eat their dessert first?
Speaker 2:Do they? I don't know, I don't know, I don't think so. We'll have to fact check that. Yeah, but the japanese drink their tea before they eat, right?
Speaker 1:that makes sense, though, because, like, if you have any type of caffeinated beverage, that like fills you up faster.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know about you, but like, if I have a coffee, I can barely eat yeah unless a very sugary coffee drink it's like oh, I can eat a lot um, yeah, because anytime you have any sort of sugar or anything, that's gonna um decrease, like um, or that's gonna increase your hunger, like if you eat sugar, and that's why you take protein first before the sugars. That's going to improve it.
Speaker 1:And just like on a personal note, I think the keto things works for me well, or not necessarily even keto, just like low carb or anything low, like not spiking your glycemic index. So, even if it's carb, it's like quinoa and not like, and just seeing like that's what.
Speaker 2:That's why I was doing the continuous glucose monitor to see what's really spiking my um sugar levels. So I I see what I should stay away from more.
Speaker 1:I want to get a glucose monitor and then just do shots of different types of alcohol. See which one you're going to do, be like, oh, this is the one.
Speaker 2:Well, our friend said he did it and he drank beer, and beer didn't spike his sugars.
Speaker 1:He's like, oh, I ate pasta. And it was like went through the roof and I tried this and went through the roof, but like I had beers and nothing. And I tried this and went through the roof, but like I had beers and nothing, so I just drink beers. Now he's in very good shape, yeah, yeah, and talks a lot too.
Speaker 2:When you're out in the streets in Paris and it smells like smoke out in the fucking street, in the huge street, it smells like smoke without anyone surrounding you, there's an issue so do you try to escape that by going inside, and then it smells like dirty pits?
Speaker 1:dirty pits, miss, mixed with some smoke ashes, more smoke oh, we're making friends tonight, yeah, but yeah, what I was gonna say about keto is like when I have simple carbs, it just I don't feel full, like I feel like I can have some more and have some more, and not just feel like I can have some more, but I want some more.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So one slice of pizza turns into three or four. Where the funny part is, I built up this tolerance and we used to have this residence dinner at Mass General and so like at 7 pm all the residents would go to the cafeteria and they provide pretty much the scraps of whatever they didn't sell throughout the day, because you know how good residents are treated. But, um, we were there. I'm like this is kind of related to it. I was just like dude, I, I can eat like a whole pizza in less than 45 minutes. There's no way you can. I'm like, oh yeah, I would have said two pizzas if I want to push myself, but I can definitely eat a whole pizza. And I was like three, four slices in.
Speaker 1:And I was in the ER shift with my senior and we got called in. This lady had a ruptured uh aortic, she had an aortic dissection and just coding about to die. So me I was in second year, my third year had to run and nobody else was there, just he was running the code and I'm just doing chest compressions. I'm like, oh my god, I, I was four pieces into eating this whole whole piece of like four pieces in and I'm just like popping away and usually we run codes for like what, like 10 to 30 minutes before calling it quits and nobody was there to give me relief from doing chest compressions.
Speaker 2:Yeah, usually you're on there for like a minute, maybe two minutes Two minutes tops right and it felt like 45 minutes. I was probably there for like 30 seconds tops. It feels long anyways.
Speaker 1:And I was like yo, jeff, I was like Jeff, call the code. Like Jeff, I was like call the code, call the code. He's like what are you talking about? You've been doing this for like 10 seconds. Just keep doing the chest compressions. Just like, do the chest compressions. I'm like, bro, call the code, call the code. The family's there watching this whole thing happen. Afterwards he was like what's wrong with you? He was like what's wrong with you? He's like 10 seconds into the code, you're asking me to call the code. I was like, dude, you knew she wasn't gonna survive. It's like, yeah, I know, but like we just have to like continue, just in case. And I'm like, yeah, but, but her family was there and these are like last breaths and I'm about to puke a ton of pizza. I was like, please call the code. This is not a scenario I want to be a part of. Um. So, yeah, no, general surgery. He was like, okay, I understand now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you were doing medical codes, oh yeah yeah oh, because it was just like a second and third year in the and we would see all the trauma, all the surgery, no matter what surgical specialty. We saw them, got them admitted and we'd sign them in. It was the worst. It was 24 hours on, 24 hours off, for a whole month. That was the setup. That was called the pit, and I think the show right now is called the pit. Yeah, I think this show right now is called the pit uh, so it is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I didn't know what. I thought it meant pittsburgh medical center no, the pit is the er shift.
Speaker 1:Oh shit, we were. We were there 24 hours on, 24 hours off, for a whole night. I still remember, like I always remember Jeff was senior. He always looked out for me. It was the first day. I was just like. I was literally like I was doing what I thought I was supposed to do, and this like 16 hours into the shift. He's like are you okay? You don't look normal. I'm like yeah, I'm fine. He's like you got this patient now and that blah, blah, blah. He's like you're not making sense. I'm like what do you mean I'm telling you about this patient? He's like you're not making sense. He's like have you eaten anything since you started at like 7 in the morning yesterday? Anything since you started at like seven in the morning yesterday? Like no, I'm good though. He's like have you drank anything, any water? I was like no. He's like just just stop doing everything. Yeah, go drink some water, eat some food. Dude, you, you're your mind looks like it's gonna explode.
Speaker 2:Yeah, those er chefs man, they're brutal.
Speaker 1:It was just bad because you don't operate the whole month. You just pretty much package the patient up, wrap them up and hand them off. You're like here you go, you guys do the fun stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That stuff was brutal, so that's not a good diet. Yeah, not like eating and drinking.
Speaker 2:The resident diet was like the worst Like ice cream at midnight, like when you're on call. You're like fuck, I need some ice cream. You're like it's like I'm depressed.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna grab whatever's there, like ice cream sandwiches, great these are the ice cream. Oh, this is great uh, if you're lucky, they have Choco Tacos. Yeah, strawberry shortcake.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the call and stress eating was huge Took me back to the ice cream. I'm up at night.
Speaker 1:So this is exercise. There's a rotation on neurosurgery. This was in New. Orleans. It was like 80 to 120 patients, yeah, and I realized like the reps would always bring in like sandwiches and stuff and just like stress eating. No lie, I sat there and stress ate like just half 12 to 14 of them.
Speaker 2:So main things with a diet. It's just like just not eating processed foods. Eat your proteins first and like Proteins and greens.
Speaker 1:proteins and greens. Or, some people don't even eat greens, just eating the steaks three times a day.
Speaker 2:I'm more of an omnivore diet, yeah Healthy balance, healthy balance, I think, if you don't eat processed foods, and you got to just try. I think it's worthwhile. And the good part is these continuous glucose monitors are becoming more and more available for everyone, so it gives you a chance at seeing what's spiking your blood sugars and how you should control what you eat and stuff to stay away from, and even gut testing and stuff. Yeah, that can sometimes help a lot of it.
Speaker 1:You know, like I got a list of I used to just say like if, if, like, just if, you're regularly getting diarrhea from eating certain things stay away from that thing. Yeah, Like you know, or?
Speaker 2:it's either diarrhea or constipation. If you're not having regular bowel movements, you shouldn't be.
Speaker 1:And and outside of that, the glucose monitor is really good because your glycemic index, like if it's going crazy one way or another, your body's not agreeing to it.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Um so nice little tools to have yeah so that and always have a mosquito net.
Speaker 2:Yeah other things, like what do they eat in the blue zones is like like what people say to look at. Is it what they eat or people they surround themselves when they eat? It is like and like that that's important too, like when it's a lot of fish, yeah, yeah, if you're olive oil and fish, just go olive oil and fish if you're sitting by yourself eating mcdonald's in front of a tv, that's probably not a good way or a healthy way of a diet.
Speaker 1:Having like more but I mean, how many italian people do you know that just argue with each other for no reason, but they're in the blue zone.
Speaker 2:But is that? But is that stress eating when they're arguing?
Speaker 1:with each other, or is it releasing the stress?
Speaker 2:so then, they don't, they don't, but like there's different, different ways of family eating, like the paesan way of eating and then the blue zone way of eating.
Speaker 1:You know the soccer games Uncle played at Like. There are some people that were like 70, 80 years old, playing soccer on Sundays and smoking cigarettes. And they specifically went there to yell at people. They ran the field twice and yelled, whether it was their own teammates or another, so I don't know. The Blue Zone definitely, definitely it works yeah, well, a lot of it.
Speaker 2:A lot of it's having family or friends that are close to you. I think that's like tight knit group that.
Speaker 1:Okay, it's pretty much on the same the social on the same on the same belief.
Speaker 2:And yeah, and most of it comes down to like hey, you didn't pass me the ball.
Speaker 1:I wasn't open, I was in front of the goal you didn't pass me the ball you shot wasn't open. I was in front of the goal. You didn't pass me the ball, you shot it and you scored a goal. Why'd you score the?
Speaker 2:goal. Yeah Well, it's finding a purpose and, like the other person's probably not finding a purpose now because he didn't pass him the ball so he might go and just like how, like they say people like when their their significant other dies, then they die yeah because they lose their sense of purpose and that is true and that's kind of the way, like I I think they're saying how the blue zone, the whole, uh, psyche behind that is, is like they, they have a sense of purpose, social in that group.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah and everyone brings something to the table. You know, they drink a little wine and they have their food.
Speaker 1:I think there's a lot of yeah, diet and non-diet. Yeah, the social aspect, age proof, thank you.