Salmon Sperm: Shocking Skincare Care Hack You Need to Know

What if the biggest skincare trends right now are not the ones actually improving your skin?

Salmon sperm DNA after microneedling. GLP-1 weight loss drugs everywhere. And skincare routines that somehow require 20 steps. In this episode, a licensed naturopathic doctor cuts through the noise and explains what truly improves skin and long-term health.

We break down regenerative aesthetics, collagen induction, microneedling, and the buzz around PDRN. You will also hear the real conversation around GLP-1 medications, muscle loss, hormones, and the habits that matter most. Protein, sleep, resistance training, and hydration.

If you care about skincare, longevity, hormone health, and practical wellness, this episode delivers clear insights without the hype.

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Transcript

Meet The Naturopathic Doctor

SPEAKER_00 0:20

Why don't you introduce yourself and your background into wellness and how you treat aesthetics, right? Your wellness and aesthetics.

SPEAKER_06 0:28

Yeah, definitely a combination of both. So I'm a licensed naturopathic doctor in the state of Arizona. Graduated from Sonoran University of Health Sciences in 2023. And then I went on to do a family uh medicine uh residency for about a year. Um, and then I started looking into opening up a business.

SPEAKER_02 0:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 0:46

However, um, I had a little bit of a poor experience um kind of looking for work and working with other naturopathic dogs who sometimes are um a little bit more uh trying to take advantage of the younger docs.

SPEAKER_00 1:02

Is that the process of joining another practice? Yeah, a lot of the time of what I felt joining this guy. Oh, get out. It's like, God, just guy just trying to take advantage of me. No. No, I'm kidding. But but that's how then yeah, just any type of medicine that's how it works.

SPEAKER_06 1:20

A lot of the time it's like a profit split situation, um, and you have to do your own marketing and all of that. And so um, I was gonna join another practice, but I had already set up my location in Scottsdale. And essentially they said that their non-compete wouldn't allow me to have that like location and coexist um while working out their practice. And so I basically said, I mean, sorry, I know you're probably afraid that I'm gonna steal your patients, but I'm just gonna do my own thing. And then slowly but surely I started growing it, and uh then I became a uh clinic director at a uh health optimization practice in Gilbert. Um, and that's when I really started learning more about like longevity, peptides, a lot of hormone replacement therapy, and seeing a lot more patients um who are interested in those kinds of treatments, like peri postmenopausal women, um, and really like gathering more expertise in that field.

SPEAKER_00 2:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 2:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:13

Just so people know where to find you, where are your practices? Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 2:19

Um so currently my practice is uh in Paradise Valley. Okay. Yep. So up in PV Mall. Oh, yeah. Technically uh Phoenix Zip Code. Yeah. It's a little confusing because across the street is Scottsdale Zip code.

SPEAKER_01 2:33

Oh awesome, yeah. Yeah, Tatum and Shea. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 2:35

Yeah, Tatum and Cactus.

SPEAKER_01 2:36

Yeah. It was just there, uh Whole Foods.

SPEAKER_06 2:39

Oh, nice, yeah, it's right across the street.

SPEAKER_00 2:41

Yeah. Um what we were picking up chia seeds?

SPEAKER_01 2:45

No. There's for the kids. It's a bunch of whole foods. Yeah. Yep. Gotta give them a cross-fed mail.

SPEAKER_00 2:56

How'd you how did you get into the naturopathic like arena or field?

Why She Chose Naturopathic Medicine

SPEAKER_06 3:04

Yeah. So um when I was pre-med over in New Jersey, I went to university at Rutgers and um, you went to school in Jersey. Not everybody's Italian.

SPEAKER_00 3:16

This one over here trying to study medicine.

SPEAKER_06 3:21

Um I studied all like the conventional pre-med classes because my full intention was to go to allopathic medical school and like become a surgeon. Um, and quickly I realized that that kind of lifestyle was not up my alley. It was just too demanding in terms of the training that was involved and the time commitment that was involved as well. So good choice. Um yes. Um, definitely happy that I made that choice. Um, and so I wanted to incorporate somehow nutrition and medicine at the same time. So I got my master's in clinical nutrition and um, and then I tried to see if I could kind of mesh like allopathic medicine and nutrition together. It seemed like it was gonna be a very difficult road if I tried to do that. Yeah. Um, and so then I tried to look for um like a field of medicine that already incorporated nutrition, and I found naturopathic medicine. Um, the closest school was in Connecticut, um, but I ended up kind of relocating to the West.

SPEAKER_01 4:17

Are you from New Jersey or been there? Did you go to school in Connecticut?

SPEAKER_06 4:22

Uh no, they had a naturopathic school there, which would have been the closest one to Jersey, and I would have considered going there, but they were revamping their program at the time. Yeah. So you came out So I came out here, I visited some schools in like San Diego. Um, but living in San Diego would have been super expensive at the time. That was like 2019.

SPEAKER_00 4:38

Um it's even more expensive now.

SPEAKER_06 4:40

It's even more expensive now. I know.

SPEAKER_01 4:42

And at the time you could live with the homeless people though. There's a lot of tent. That's true.

SPEAKER_00 4:46

If you've got a sturdy tent, you're good.

SPEAKER_06 4:49

I mean, it's nice weather most of the year, so that's something, but um, but yeah, so I thought that the school here in Arizona was definitely more well established.

SPEAKER_04 4:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 4:58

Um they had like a research program, they did a lot with like um botanical medicine, which I'm super into, and um, they had really exceptional training in nutrition.

SPEAKER_00 5:07

Yeah. Which school did you go to here?

SPEAKER_06 5:09

Sonoran University of Health Sciences. Sorry. At that time, it was Southwest College of Naturopathic Medicine.

SPEAKER_01 5:15

No, I I think that's that's the good route to take because like you know, if you did family practice in the traditional allopathic way, they kind of cut you short on well, you won't learn nutrition, you won't learn hormones, you won't learn peptides. Yeah, and then on top of it, to do it in your practice, it's kind of like fraught upon. Where is it well, sort of is like a lot of people are getting into that now, where you know, with the with RFK and stuff, I think uh there's a little more leniency, but you know, uh supposed to do certain things, just the US is very litignous, especially if you carry an MD under your name, so it's a lot harder to run a lot of this stuff. So yeah, but for me, like I really got into it, and you know, I just hated like patients coming in, and people would just tell them diet and exercise, and then they're coming to me thinking they're gonna get fat loss with liposuction. And I'm like, no, we gotta train you, we gotta get your hormones right, we gotta we gotta get your nutrition right, and these are the things you need to eat, and this is what you need to do for exercise, so you get to good weight that then you can have surgery and look good rather than just doing like surgery and like thank you for your money. See you next next week.

SPEAKER_00 6:37

Same way like I've known this guy for 45 years, and I didn't know he knew what litiginous meant.

SPEAKER_06 6:46

Vocabulary word of the day.

SPEAKER_01 6:47

Yeah, I I trained in New York, so you kind of got to know you gotta get verbose. Yeah, verbose and okay, verbose.

SPEAKER_05 6:56

Sorry.

SPEAKER_04 6:58

So yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:01

What was an early like sign of like, oh, this, like, you know, even like us going into medicine, like we really want to go into it. And like, what was an early sign of you being like, oh, this is really my shit, like this is what I want to do, yeah, uh, thing like that.

SPEAKER_06 7:20

Um, so growing up like as an immigrant and um going to all of my like grandma's doctor's appointments, Dominican Republic.

SPEAKER_02 7:28

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 7:29

Yep. Um, so I had to translate for them at doctors' offices and all these different things. And so too young for that, obviously, but I really got exposed to kind of like medical terminology very young. Um and when I saw the like doctor-patient interactions that they were having, it was very brief. It was really just like a 10-minute visit, um, kind of going over the basics, maybe high and by, listen to heart and lungs, and then kind of calling it a day, prescribing a medication, okay, see you in three months.

SPEAKER_04 7:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 7:57

Um, and it just seemed like more needed to be done.

SPEAKER_01 8:02

Yeah. Um, like except a plug in the hole.

SPEAKER_06 8:05

Exactly. Yeah. And the hole's leaking. Yeah. There's other holes.

SPEAKER_01 8:10

Yeah. Yep.

SPEAKER_06 8:11

Um, and so especially when I saw that uh when my grandma first immigrated to this country, like she was fit. And as soon as she started consuming an American like standard diet, type 2 diabetes, high cholesterol, hypertension. So I'm like, there's gotta be something because she still has good diet habits, but the ecosystem has changed, and there's gotta be like a root cause as to why these things are going on.

SPEAKER_00 8:39

Yeah. Um not just that, the simple carbs get simpler. Like they there's like you consume that stuff, it's probably worse than alcohol and like whatever is out there. Like it's it's I don't know. It's we're we're gonna get I promise you within two years we're gonna get type three diabetes. I thought that was already and then we're gonna get to like type three, and we're gonna call it triabities. Oh gosh. Like you're gonna try to get it. So I I get it. The uh Caribbean diet is carb heavy too.

SPEAKER_06 9:22

It's very starch heavy. Um, there's rice, there's beans, there's pasta, there's plantains, um, and it's all on one plate.

SPEAKER_01 9:31

Fried foods too.

SPEAKER_06 9:32

Fried foods too, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:33

Also, like the it's lower socioeconomic levels. So like I went to St. Lucia and they were just like, oh, this highest level of like heart disease, blood pressure, um diabetes, and I order a meal at just like a stand, and it was just like starch, starch, starch, starch, and a couple cubes of chicken as well. Oh my goodness. This'll this'll just be a little treat, almost like a dessert.

SPEAKER_01 10:05

It's also tough guin the stuff too, though. Oh yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:08

Oh, absolutely. Uh a Caribbean island gifts.

SPEAKER_03 10:11

It's expensive.

SPEAKER_01 10:12

Yeah, I remember I I did med school in St. Martin, and when we did a few clinical rotations, like everyone's sugars were like over 200 and blood pressures were like super high, and they're like, Oh yeah, this is their normal. They just live their life that yeah. They didn't even try to balance it or make it, you know, they were on meds, but they're like, ah, they're they're gonna survive.

SPEAKER_06 10:37

It's asymptomatic too, you know. If they don't feel bad, yeah, they probably won't do anything about it. And that's I think where a lot of the education that we should be giving is why we should be doing it.

SPEAKER_01 10:50

So, what are you some of your main focuses in your practice? Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 10:54

Um, so of course, aesthetics is a big part of that, but I like to do more like regenerative aesthetics, yeah. So not relying so much on the conventional injectables that really don't do much for like the skin itself and like regenerating collagen and things like that.

SPEAKER_00 11:07

Yeah. Um I know I'm not supposed to ask a woman this, but how old are you?

SPEAKER_06 11:12

I'm 31.

SPEAKER_00 11:13

31. Your skin looks fantastic. Thank you. I invest in it. I am a billboard.

SPEAKER_06 11:18

This is marketing.

SPEAKER_00 11:20

Yeah, it definitely is. You look great.

SPEAKER_06 11:23

Thank you. I'm gonna try and delay Botox as long as I can.

SPEAKER_01 11:26

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we're you know, we run a plastic surgery office. Do we do fillers? Yeah, but we I try to talk people out of fillers. The only thing I do fillers is for the nose. The rest of it's like either PRP exosomes or fat or is like all we use. Like try to stay away from the rest of it.

SPEAKER_00 11:49

Pretty much promoting growth hormones or growth factors, sorry, to you to the areas you want.

SPEAKER_01 11:55

What are some of the things you do in your practice?

SPEAKER_06 11:58

Yeah, so um, at least for the aesthetic side, I do a lot of microneedling. Yeah, um, so I also try to learn a lot from um Korean pharmacists and what they do in South Korea, just because they far um lead, you know, the US, outpace the US in terms of like aesthetics and savvy.

SPEAKER_00 12:18

What?

SPEAKER_06 12:22

Maybe kimchi. Maybe kimchi. That'll be really good for like your intestinal balance and any dysbiosis for sure.

SPEAKER_00 12:29

Um Asians age slower than a lot of races.

SPEAKER_01 12:36

But but the Koreans are even even better. They top they top the Japanese and Chinese. Yeah, because we we want to like my wife's into it and she wants to bring a whole like Korean skin line to our practice.

SPEAKER_00 12:49

So she identifies as South Korean now.

SPEAKER_01 12:52

Well, she could pass for it. Yeah, she couldn't. No, no, she doesn't I can't say this, but she's not scorped enough to be Korean. But she's got the almond-shaped eyes. She's Afghani, but okay, yeah. She's close, she's close. She's got a mix of all of Asia.

SPEAKER_00 13:10

Like a five-hour road trip basically down there.

SPEAKER_01 13:12

Yeah. So, yeah, so we went to Spain and there was a store that just sold Korean products. Oh, nice. And she bought like almost everything in that store to try them out. And she she totally loves it. Her skin was already great, but like she's always done retin A is like big for her. So, yeah, we bought a lot of products from there. They got like a lot of things with salmon sperm. Oh, yeah. Yeah, oh yeah. That's what she's trying to do. It's trying to bring it. Yeah, took out her favorite products to try to bring it from Kur Korea.

SPEAKER_06 13:46

Yeah. I've definitely been huge on um like the PDRN.

SPEAKER_01 13:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 13:51

Um, and then that's uh like the salmon sperm DNA.

SPEAKER_02 13:56

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_06 13:57

I like a specific brand called Redrin.

SPEAKER_02 13:59

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 14:00

Yeah. Um it's pretty high quality, I would say, um, but also rigorously tested. And it's been around for a very long time. Like they're already injecting this in many countries.

SPEAKER_01 14:10

That's that's approved, but it's not approved for injection. Not in the US. It's approved for topical skincare, right? Yep, it's approved topically. Yep. So I put it on right after doing microneedling. Yeah, Ash was trying to get me to be the ambassador for the current because he he works with one of my friends works with the company, and he was trying to make me.

SPEAKER_00 14:31

Do you think the FDA has a limitation on it has to be this many percent salmon sperm DNA for you to advertise it as that?

SPEAKER_06 14:42

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 14:43

Or maybe there's another company who wants a similar product, but well, the like you I bet you it's probably your certain companies don't want to be able to do that. They'll lose out on a big market. Yeah, because it's gonna change like Botox, and like Botox is gonna take a hit from it because people are gonna hit yeah, people are gonna get the collagen, get rid of the wrinkles without like doing Botox.

SPEAKER_06 15:09

And it's regenerative. Yeah, you know, your body's doing the work, you're just kind of giving it the stimulus that it needs, the directions that it needs, kind of similar to exosomes.

SPEAKER_01 15:16

Yeah, it's like caveat to your face.

SPEAKER_00 15:18

Exactly. Basically, oh man, that shit costs a lot. You're gonna eat that? It's like, no, I'm gonna rub it on my face.

SPEAKER_01 15:26

I'm gonna put it on my face. There's someone in town that injects it, I know. Um the PDRN. The PDRN, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 15:36

Um, so far, I the Fountain Hills.

SPEAKER_01 15:39

I I know the family doc. He's a Persian dude.

SPEAKER_05 15:42

Oh, cool, yeah, yeah. Interesting. Yeah, very nice.

SPEAKER_00 15:45

He's got excellent results.

SPEAKER_05 15:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:47

Yeah. You want like that ultra filler fish face for Instagram. Top that with injecting actual fish eggs in your face. Yeah, you are good to go.

SPEAKER_06 16:00

Oh my, that doesn't seem optimal at all.

SPEAKER_00 16:04

It all goes away.

SPEAKER_06 16:06

It's trendy.

SPEAKER_00 16:06

Actually, it all goes away.

SPEAKER_06 16:07

I hear filler doesn't go away.

SPEAKER_00 16:10

Like some does, some stays. Like when you get it so many times, you're you just build the scar tissue, I think.

SPEAKER_01 16:16

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:17

Yeah, like granulomas, they're called, like around what's injected. So even if the filler's not there, that scar tissue, like you saying, it is that's why the lips, you see the lips, they just keep on growing.

SPEAKER_01 16:30

It's like you know, they think they need more part of it's part body dysmorphic, but part of it's just that scar tissue that never goes. Oh my gosh, you know, especially the lips, and you got the muscles underneath there, so it it like you notice if you get a cut on your lip, it gets pretty hard, like and when it's healing. And people are like, is this abnormal? And it's like three months, six months, and it'll be hard as a rock. And when you're continuously injecting with a needle, that's gonna lay down some heavy scar tissue. Absolutely. And information.

SPEAKER_00 17:01

Yeah, so I I and don't act like you know what it means to have bigger lips because you have some Dominican blood.

SPEAKER_06 17:09

Yeah, they my clients who come in for you know whatever it is that they're there for, but particularly the ones who are interested in lip filler, they're like, you inject your lips, right? And I'm like, what? No, no, I think if I showed you a picture of my mother, you'd be like, Oh, yeah, probably not.

SPEAKER_01 17:22

I I hate it and look, it's almost as painful for me at it as it is for the patients. And on top of it, I'm like, dude, this is no matter how long they tell you it's only gonna last six months. I don't know how you go through that pain every six weeks.

Regenerative Aesthetics Over Fillers

SPEAKER_06 17:38

It's so gosh, I can only imagine. Yeah. I've had people go like vasovagal on the table um during like lip filler. Yeah, and we have to stop. And and I'm like, we gotta massage it, like it's gonna. But yeah, I think um I've gotten a lot less requests for filler and a lot less requests for Botox and way more inquiries on collagen induction.

SPEAKER_00 18:00

Yeah. And what's your response to that? I love it. How do you induce it?

SPEAKER_06 18:04

Botox isn't gonna do a thing for your skin, honestly.

SPEAKER_01 18:07

Oh, I agree completely. I think it just makes it shinier over time.

SPEAKER_06 18:12

Shinier? Yeah, it matters because it's like similar to it.

SPEAKER_01 18:15

It also thins out the muscle, which you know, as you you lose the muscle, you're gonna lose volume in your bone as well. So 100%. So overall, it's probably you know, you're gonna become more deficient and lose volume.

SPEAKER_06 18:28

Definitely.

SPEAKER_00 18:29

And and shiny shininess of skin also matters on how much baby oil you put on it. I learned this from P. Diddy.

SPEAKER_06 18:38

Oh, oh boy.

SPEAKER_00 18:42

He was shiny as fuck. We should have seen it coming.

SPEAKER_06 18:47

We should have. We really should have. Because wow, that was a lot of baby oil.

SPEAKER_01 18:54

But so someone was saying like African Americans go through like a thousand bottles of baby oil a year or something. And I'm like, What? I'm like, that would match to how many bottles P. Diddy had in the in a year? Maybe he likes to just buy things when they're on sale. That was probably put out there by P.

SPEAKER_00 19:14

Diddy's defense attorney. I know. Right.

SPEAKER_02 19:17

I I heard it's normal.

SPEAKER_00 19:19

This is perfectly normal. Every African American does this.

SPEAKER_06 19:22

As if it's not even like hydrating for your skin.

SPEAKER_00 19:27

I know. So you divide that by 50, what do you get? Like 20? So you you go through I think like 20 bottles of baby oil a week.

SPEAKER_05 19:40

That's exactly that's absurd.

SPEAKER_00 19:42

Yeah. But hey, it it happens. So um so if P P. Diddy ages well, we we should have him on this podcast.

SPEAKER_06 19:53

I think that's got nothing to do with the baby oil.

SPEAKER_01 19:56

So you're doing the aesthetic injections. Are you doing injections for like like tendon sheaths and stuff like that? Or like no therapy. No, because this comes up because we talked about collagen, and yeah, I had a guy today talking about like I I don't know, his therapist was like, you should get collagen injected into your because he had a below knee amputation, and to get that injected into your uh patellar tendon, and I'm like, I'm like, that just doesn't seem like it. I'm like, there's a lot better stuff. You got exosomes, you got PRP, you got you got stem cells and or peptides. I'm like, why would you inject? I'm like, collagen doesn't make any sense to me.

SPEAKER_06 20:40

It's the same like argument, not argument, but a lot of patients ask me, oh, like, should I be taking collagen supplements? Is it gonna help my skin?

SPEAKER_04 20:48

No, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 20:49

No. It you wish you know it's gonna go like into your skin.

SPEAKER_01 20:54

Although the thorn collagen peptide, it it it's not just the collagen that's in it. They they have a good mixture in there that does improve skin quality. When you know, especially when I I started taking like GLP ones, it it definitely like brought to you by thorn bioproducts.

SPEAKER_00 21:12

Collagen supplements.

SPEAKER_01 21:15

It's not fucking thorn the ozampic face or whatever they call it. Like you could get rid of it with just like taking some whether it's the protein, but like there's the other like they have some fruit extracts and stuff in there that help with hydration for your skin. I think that's more of the help. And the collagen does part of it, but more of it was the other stuff in it.

SPEAKER_06 21:40

Definitely, yeah. And there's a lot of uh like lean muscle mass and just muscle mass loss in general that happens with the use of like the GLP ones. Um, and so that's another risk that I have to talk about with patients all the time because they're like, Oh, like I want to lose this many pounds and this much time. Um, but they haven't learned. How to eat. They don't know what triggers them to eat the way they do. And so I'm like, hey, listen, like you might have a higher risk of dehydration and like bone density loss. And so these are things, especially in my peri postmenopause women who want to start GLP ones. I'm like, you really have to pay attention to protein intake and hydration, resistance training.

SPEAKER_01 22:20

Um, because otherwise and getting their hormones balanced, because if they don't have appropriate testosterone, they're they're not putting on lean muscle now.

SPEAKER_00 22:29

That's pretty much the two main points of anybody getting on GLPs hormone optimization and resistance training. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:37

Like everything else has to be in check. Their sleep's got to be in check. If their sleeps off, they're not. They're also not in the case.

SPEAKER_05 22:46

Honestly.

SPEAKER_01 22:47

So yeah. So yeah, but like a lot of people are handing out GLP ones, like it's candy. Oh, yeah. And someone just got caught, I heard, in North Scottsdale. And it was a nurse that was just injecting it, um, having the patients come in to get injected. There's no medical director, and she got taken down for a felony.

SPEAKER_00 23:08

There's there's people injecting free silicone for fillers. Like there's no surprise that there's people using GLPs.

SPEAKER_01 23:18

Well, no, everyone knows that, but so it's someone like a nurse was running her own thing and she she got hit with a felony, of course. Which is kind of I think kind of crazy.

SPEAKER_06 23:28

It's big, you know, that'll mess up your whole career.

SPEAKER_01 23:31

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:32

And we're reaching out to that nurse we are hiring right now. Oh, they are.

SPEAKER_05 23:41

Right.

SPEAKER_00 23:42

No, people do crazy things, like well, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:46

We bought a whole bunch of liposuction stuff from a guy that had no medical background, a laser tech that was injecting fillers. What?

SPEAKER_00 23:54

See, he was he was scheduling people, like thank God this guy was brought into our life because of all the equipment we were able to purchase at a discount. But what he was doing is wrong. Yeah, he was a laser tech, he was scheduling patients and getting plastic surgeons to come in there to do the liposuction and stuff. And I think eventually he was just doing the procedures himself.

SPEAKER_01 24:22

No, no, no. So in Vegas, they were doing just Botox and fillers without anyone in the medical field in some location. Yeah. And then he came to Arizona and he was getting people to come and do liposuction. He wasn't doing it, he was never even able to open the doors here because they didn't finish construction. He had all this equipment. Oh my god. They had done stuff at another office and then they moved to this office, but it never got fully remodeled.

SPEAKER_00 24:55

Dude, the non-invasive stuff that he had in there, we were just like, What? Like all the cool sculpt and things. I just like we were both like, how how does this even work? Like each one of these things loses money for us, but whatever. Thanks for your Libo equipment.

SPEAKER_01 25:16

Yeah, well, he was like, I need to make my Lambo payment. I'm like, if you're worried about making Lambo payment, you should not have a Lambo.

SPEAKER_05 25:24

No, what goodness, what a poor investment.

SPEAKER_01 25:27

Yeah, you might be watching this. I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 25:29

That's okay.

SPEAKER_01 25:30

Yeah. Yeah, he was trying to set up.

SPEAKER_00 25:32

If you're watching this, it's a lesson to you. Stop doing that stuff.

SPEAKER_01 25:36

Every few months he's like, Do you want to do a teaching course for Lipo? I'm like, no. Thank you for the cheap equipment.

SPEAKER_07 25:43

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 25:44

Yeah, he's been trying to get me to do one of these big, like, high definition lipo like courses because the courses are big money maker. Um other medical professionals, I suppose. Yeah, you just bring in people.

SPEAKER_00 25:57

Even some plastic surgeons, even some plastic surgeons make more doing courses than doing plastic surgery.

SPEAKER_06 26:04

Yeah, it's a huge thing. What?

SPEAKER_00 26:07

I'm about to become a life coach.

SPEAKER_06 26:11

Some of the most unqualified people.

SPEAKER_00 26:13

Teach you how to get bigger breasts, get more defined abs. Like, we don't need to do surgery. Just$3,000 for this like four-hour course. Oh my god. And I will I will teach you two-week program. I'll teach you what classic surgeon to go to. It's four four-week program.

SPEAKER_01 26:33

As if oh, and you can double dip because you get the patients there and you get payments from the person.

SPEAKER_00 26:38

But if you give me six thousand dollars, then we get the three-week program.

SPEAKER_05 26:42

Okay. Wow, six thousand dollars.

SPEAKER_06 26:45

That's not any old audience.

GLP-1 Weight Loss Risks And Fixes

SPEAKER_05 26:47

There's always ways to make money. Of course. There's no shortage. You gotta know where to get it.

SPEAKER_00 26:55

We gotta get into more stuff you do. Because I keep talking shit and like rambling off into the like abyss.

SPEAKER_01 27:05

We want we want more of so you do a lot of acupuncture and cupping, the fire cupping. And what's the difference between cupping? The fire cupping. It's fire cupping, right? Or you call it fire cupping versus regular.

SPEAKER_06 27:18

It's more uh traditional way of doing cupping. Okay. So glass cups, um creating a vacuum. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:24

So you heat it.

SPEAKER_06 27:24

Yep, you heat it very briefly.

SPEAKER_00 27:26

Generates negative pressure.

SPEAKER_06 27:28

Exactly. You place it on the skin, and then it creates a vacuum. So the different layers of tissue actually go kind of separate from themselves, and you get uh more blood flow to the surface.

SPEAKER_00 27:38

Do you move it around with the cupping?

SPEAKER_06 27:40

So ideally, you want to put some oil down before you start moving it around, otherwise it can be very peanut butter.

SPEAKER_00 27:45

Baby oil, yeah. Like baby oil, like a thousand bottles of baby oil. It's like medicinal. In case you ever get caught in that cupping.

SPEAKER_06 27:55

I'm gonna say cupping. No, like ten miles away from any bottle of baby oil.

SPEAKER_00 28:03

Excuse me, we've spent millions on that already. My wife is a physical therapist, as I brought up multiple times in this show. She loves cupping, drying. I love cupping, dry needling, taping, all those techniques like really help like loosen things out. Absolutely. And I'm like, and it's not like some of the stuff with physical therapy, you're like in pain for like 24 hours. Like cupping, I I swear it's like within like two hours, three hours. She's like, okay, we're gonna do some fascial release. I'm like, Yeah, I sound painful. Sounds like bullshit. Like that's just another layer of tissue, but like cupping really gets to that where I think like whether it's posture-wise or something, like your fascia gets pretty tight. Yep. And then with like cupping, dry needling, it loosens it up. So like it you just feel better in different positions.

SPEAKER_06 29:08

You can break up that uh tissue, um, but also the cupping actually brings circulation up into the surface, and the darker the mark, which people call bruises, they're not actually traditional bruises, because you're not there's no wound that's going on, there's no breaking of any blood vessels that's happening, it's just blood coming up to the surface, and depending on the color of that blood is kind of the status of how well you are circulating that blood. So the darker it is, the closer it is to purple, um, the more stagnation there is, the more tightness there is, the poorer the circulation. Yep. And so kind of with continued treatment, that color is supposed to get lighter and lighter, and then eventually you probably don't even really need cupping and you can just do the needling.

SPEAKER_01 29:47

Do you think do you think the fire cupping has better release and shorter treatments than I kind of understand it, but for the general public, they might not get it because I I think with increased heat you're gonna get increased vascularity coming up.

SPEAKER_06 30:02

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 30:02

But um are are you getting better results?

SPEAKER_06 30:05

I am getting better results. Um I have both in the office, like the plastic ones that you have, like the manual suction, um kind of more of the ones that the PTs use. Um, and then also the glass ones that you're doing the fire cupping. And I always find that um right off the table, people tell me they feel a lot better um in much shorter time with the fire cupping relative to the plastic cups.

SPEAKER_00 30:27

Okay. Do you have to do a fire ritual before the fire cups?

SPEAKER_06 30:31

Just like chant around them for like five minutes.

SPEAKER_00 30:34

It'll it'll have a really positive like placebo effect. I'm I'm not kidding you. Though it's like people be like, oh shit, I'm really into it. Or maybe do like a couple of the sound bowls.

SPEAKER_06 30:46

Oh yeah. Well, that's uh that's actually super popular now at like yoga events and a lot of like corporate events too. People are doing like sound bowls.

SPEAKER_01 30:53

I try to do it on my kids at night, and they do not fall asleep. Me and my wife fall asleep. They're like jumping off the bed. I put it on YouTube and put that's not sound bowls.

SPEAKER_06 31:06

Oh, okay. I feel like it'd be cool.

SPEAKER_00 31:07

You should like get some bowl and actually do it, and then let's get they have a few kids kept that coming up. Yeah, no, you you gotta do it yourself. You can't get the vibrations with the TV likes speakers. You actually have to do it, and then if you get the kids doing it, I'm pretty sure they're gonna love it. And then I'm gonna come there for treatments.

SPEAKER_06 31:32

I'll take advantage of that.

SPEAKER_00 31:33

I'm ordering it. Amazon's gonna deliver overnight delivery. I love soundbowls. I can't get over soundballs. Like, it's the easiest way to put me into like the most relaxed mindset. And yeah, any any type of meditation I've tried, like there's a lot that have worked really well, but like soundballs. I'm like, let's go. Let's go. Let's go.

SPEAKER_06 32:03

It's such a simple way to. I mean, we're all energy, right? Our atoms vibrate at certain frequencies. So it makes sense that you know, at a particular frequency, that that's gonna kind of level you out in terms of uh emotional regulation and nervous system.

SPEAKER_00 32:16

I have no emotions, neither does he. He has less emotions. They told me I'm emotionally retarded. They had a test in uh uh surgical training. He's heard the story, but like I never tried it tests, I didn't do well until med school, and then I was like top-notch on every test. And then during training for surgery, they had this experimental test at Mass General, it was for emotional intelligence. And the program director was like, I they haven't even like told us what the results mean, but they told me I have to talk to you. I'm like, okay. Oh my god, I'm like, oh, that's really good. First percentile. He's like, no, you want 99th percentile, and you're on the first percentile percentile. Um like outlier, like moron on this test.

SPEAKER_05 33:20

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00 33:22

And my immediate response was like, but I tried. Oh no. And then I went home and I told Sarah, my my wife, I was like, I had to go meet with the program director. This isn't a like a permanent spot, so I'm trying to look good any way I can. I'm like, this guy was just like told me I'm like an idiot with emotions, and I tried on this test, and she just looks at me, she's like, Oh, yeah, I could have told you that. But that's good looking surgery, isn't it?

Cupping And Dry Needling Benefits

SPEAKER_03 33:53

That's what I was gonna say. I'm like, that's probably fine.

SPEAKER_00 33:55

Yeah, yeah, you don't want to be emotional.

SPEAKER_01 33:57

If you're like a family doctor, but I wonder if they tested differently for male versus female.

SPEAKER_00 34:02

I don't know if it's like medical fields, because like medicine had the same tests and stuff, but it was just a hilarious situation. Looking back, and the way I came back, I was like, my initial response is like I tried. Like I studied for this thing. What do you mean? Like I tried to do my.

SPEAKER_01 34:33

Yeah, it's tough to take the a test like that, though. Just like you said, you're gonna try to figure out like what they're looking for.

SPEAKER_00 34:40

But they also asked the same question like eight times.

SPEAKER_01 34:43

Well, it's probably better now with AI. A they that could probably figure out definitely not.

SPEAKER_00 34:49

The AI is just built that shit and then like take it to an exponential level. Like something for comes to how emotionally idiotic I am. But like if a test that I don't think is accurate then builds on AI to build upon itself, it's gonna become more and more idiotic.

SPEAKER_01 35:14

Potentially, but I I bet you like your your emotional retardabilities probably more that's like a Trump word.

SPEAKER_02 35:23

I created it. Creationally retarded. I created it.

SPEAKER_00 35:28

I am an emotional retard. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_01 35:31

But like if you if you're married for three plus years, you all of a sudden you have no more emotions. You're like, you just don't want to get into a fight anymore. That is true, avoiding.

SPEAKER_00 35:43

But if you're in a relationship more than three years, you're more likely to have kids together. And when you have kids, you definitely have more emotions.

SPEAKER_01 35:54

More or less? More. But more towards the kid, but less towards you, like the general.

SPEAKER_00 36:00

No, more overall. Because I remember when Ari was born, I was just like, oh my god. There's a meaning to this feels really weird. What is this feeling I'm having? Empathy. Oh, empathy. Yeah, like what else am I feeling? It's like I've never felt this before. Like, this is fucking awesome. Warm and fuzzy in here.

SPEAKER_01 36:22

Almost that seizures.

SPEAKER_00 36:24

It's not a concrete feeling. This is like a needle of feelings. And it was emotions. It was like, I pretty much only watch cartoons now because of emotions. I cried during cartoons. I good for you. I cried during the spickled. But you were over you were over-emotional when you were young, though. That is true, but I also shut myself off because my uncle that we grew up with always called me a pussface.

SPEAKER_01 36:55

Gonna adopted because you were darker screen. You're darker.

SPEAKER_00 36:59

They found you in the trash can in Bombay. Yeah, you're not actual part of the family.

SPEAKER_06 37:04

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 37:06

But I actually found that really funny, even though I was like seven or eight, like hearing this. I have been, I used to cry a lot, and I completely shut off. And I really don't think I was emotionally like intact with anything until my daughter was born. And that that was just like that moment was like holy shit, life changing. Yep. Things are real now. Things are very real. It's not about you. Nope. Fuck you. Stop thinking about yourself. It's about somebody else.

SPEAKER_06 37:44

Yeah, I'm gonna delay that as long as possible. Don't why?

SPEAKER_00 37:50

It might be too late sometime. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 37:52

Oh, it's possible. But I think I'll be okay with it if it doesn't happen.

SPEAKER_00 37:55

Like he just said, like quietly in the microphone. He's like, this is the greatest thing. It actually is. It's it's yeah, it's the greatest thing in my life. So go out there and have a kid.

SPEAKER_06 38:09

Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 38:10

I think I'd rather have two kids.

SPEAKER_06 38:12

No, I'm an only child. That's foreign. That's a foreign concept.

SPEAKER_00 38:16

We're a family of four kids. Oh, solid. Yeah. Is it a foreign concept because your family's based in the DR?

SPEAKER_06 38:24

I guess it's because I like just grew up around a very small circle of like family members. It was just like super matriarchal, like mom, grandma, me. They both helped, like, played pivotal roles in raising me.

SPEAKER_00 38:38

Was your dad around?

SPEAKER_06 38:39

No, he actually, so my parents got divorced when I was eight years old. And um at that point, I was already in the US. I came here when I was like, I don't know, one. Um so I was like too young at the time to really comprehend what divorce was. I was like seven.

SPEAKER_02 38:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 38:58

And so maybe like into adulthood is when I was like, oh, maybe I should probably try to make a relationship with this person. Um, which here and there kind of, but still kind of an estranged relationship. Um, but I have like a really good relationship with my aunts and uncles, so his siblings.

SPEAKER_00 39:17

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 39:17

Yeah. Um but he actually was like more involved in like substance abuse. He was an alcoholic. And so those were pivotal reasons as to why my mother needed to step away from the situation. Um, and so that was a big reason as to why we even moved to the US in the first place.

SPEAKER_00 39:35

Um, and was he in the US or back in D.

SPEAKER_06 39:39

He actually never came to the US. He'll he stayed in Dominican Republic, he eventually got like sick renal failure and passed away from that sickness. Yeah, I mean as much as you care, I'm sorry for you. Yeah, thank you.

Longevity Consults Labs And Supplements

SPEAKER_01 39:52

But um so like I was listening to your Instagram, you do like these 30-minute virtual visits on longevity. So, what's involved in like a consult like that? What do you talk about? What do you try to find out from patients?

SPEAKER_06 40:06

So uh it could be virtual or it could be in person. Um, usually once they book the appointment, they'll have a questionnaire to answer about a lot of different things. So I try to hit upon as many body systems as I can um in terms of digestion, sleep, stress, nutrition, um, a lot of different things. And um, of course, for the women, like I asked them about their menstrual cycles and everything like that, just because that will really point me in the direction of what I need to expand upon in that 30-minute visit.

SPEAKER_04 40:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 40:32

Um, and so once I kind of figure out, okay, this is likely the pattern that's going on, then I can order more targeted lab testing. Um, and then after that, we probably follow up in like a month because it takes kind of a while for them to receive the kit for the blood test and then actually go to the lab and do all of that. But yeah, then uh they come in for a 60-minute consult, whether that's virtual or in person. Uh, we go through the lab work line by line. I answer all the questions. Yeah. And then I give them like my recommendations, the protocol. And it's usually a combination of like many different things. So I usually try to incorporate, of course, nutritional uh recommendations, nutritional counseling. That's usually like foundational baseline. Um, and then I also incorporate herbal medicine depending on what's going on hormone-wise. Um, if they are truly deficient in hormones, then of course we can start like bioidentical hormones to help replenish those. Um, but then like diet, exercise, those are foundational. Um herbs in terms of like adaptogens to help to re-regulate the uh nervous system. Um and then after all of that, you know, micronutrient repletion, everything like that. Then they'll come back in about 12 weeks and we'll do retest um basically kind of to see their progress. Um, because a lot of people are deficient in so many nutrients and they're like, I have chronic fatigue, I'm not sleeping, and then I figure out, oh, you're actually anemic. Yeah, you know, or your vitamin D is like a 10.

SPEAKER_01 41:54

So But you also have all these people like, you know, they're like, you don't need supplements, you gotta just eat whole foods, but like you know, a lot of people can't keep up with that diet of the city.

SPEAKER_06 42:05

What foods have vitamin D other than maybe egg yolk?

SPEAKER_00 42:08

Yeah. Like sunlight?

SPEAKER_06 42:11

What? Sunlight?

SPEAKER_01 42:13

I mean, yeah, but everyone has their own conversion rate as to how much yeah, to also get the appropriate amounts of people escape the sun in Arizona, yeah. They have to, or else we get cancer for survival. Plus sunlight, how much losses are it it's not super hot, only like two or three months out of the year, so basically, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 42:33

Um but still, people work in offices most of the time, they're indoors, yeah. And um you're probably not gonna get severe symptoms um from having like insufficient vitamin D. Um, it could come back as a constellation of different vague symptoms.

SPEAKER_04 42:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 42:48

Yeah. And until you test, you won't really know. Um, and I applaud the like conventional family practice physicians and NPs and PAs who actually like test for these things and include a ferritin and the iron panel.

SPEAKER_00 43:01

And I I personally think um specifically for vitamin D, vitamin T vitamin D levels probably fluctuate so much throughout the day because I published the study for vitamin D levels on um this was during COVID on severe COVID patients that ended up dying or spending extra time in the ICU. And you you got to see that like the vitamin D level is not like it kind of doesn't mean anything. And vitamin D levels say that um because it can fluctuate widely day to day, and then like one day you don't get sun versus one day you do. So majority of the patients that we saw that had severe COVID symptoms, this was early on in COVID. In New Orleans, where people are dying, like we noticed that the patients that go to the ICU, the patients that die, they they just had like really low vitamin D levels.

SPEAKER_01 44:13

Vitamin D correlates with your immune system. If you have like it's gonna improve your immune system.

SPEAKER_00 44:19

So but traditionally they teach you vitamin D just works with calcium for bone strength. They don't tell you vitamin D. Well, it's it's a powerful nutrient, but everyone's vitamin D receptors are on every cell of your human body. So there's no way that that receptor's there and it doesn't serve a purpose. Exactly. But it can the the reason I'm saying like the levels don't mean anything.

SPEAKER_01 44:44

You should just be taking vitamin D.

SPEAKER_00 44:46

Yeah. Or or getting some type of sun. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 44:50

I know like supplement with the and get sun. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 44:54

So so the the people who were dying in New Orleans from COVID early on, like they just had a significantly lower amount of vitamin D. Yeah. And you don't know if it's correlative or causative. Got it. Because were they just deprived of vitamin D because now they're just in a hospital bed. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:16

It's part of the overall picture though. It's like your immune system's shut down. So yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:22

But I I didn't realize it was in the receptors on every cell in your human body. Because in med school, they're just like vitamin D, calcium, as the bone strength. You're not taught anything else outside of that. Yeah.

Food Rules Protein Vegetables And Dairy

SPEAKER_01 45:35

Um so well, a lot more has been found out about a lot of these supplements and and the nutrients and stuff, too. There's been more effort put into it instead of like before it was like, yeah, you think you know, we had our food groups and all that garbage. Oh my god. Oh my gosh, the food being red. So what are some of the diets that you recommend for most patients? That's why you're emotions. Sorry. Sorry, yes. So what so what are some of the diets that you recommend for patients?

SPEAKER_06 46:15

Um it really depends on what their lab show. So um I try to make it as individualized as possible. I really haven't found that kind of one size fits all diets work. Um you really have to meet people where they're at in terms of what are they ready to change. Diet and uh food intake are psychological in nature, and so you have to work on behavior change. Um, and that's a hard thing to do. And there's a lot that goes into it in terms of like uh bio-psychosocial aspect of like analysis, right? And so I try to take um a holistic approach to it as much as I can. But in general, um, if I, for example, I work with a wide um age range of women, but if they're let's say postmenopausal, um they um have like low estrogen, low progesterone, of course, we're gonna go ahead and provide those. Um but resistance training along with um a high protein diet is gonna be super important. And then um at least 50 to 60 percent of your plate should be non-starchy vegetables. Yeah, um, a wide variety of them. People really limit themselves in terms of like the amount of vegetables they consume, they only know about like three or four.

SPEAKER_04 47:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 47:22

And they're like, that's it, like none else exists, it's whatever the grocery store has.

SPEAKER_01 47:26

Well, even even like you know, like I try to introduce new stuff to to my kids, and but the grandparents, it's always carrots and broccoli. That's all they feed them. They're like they like it. I'm like, yeah, because you keep yes, you keep on just giving them the same thing. They're not their taste buds, are and we take them different places and they eat everything. Like, and we know it, but you gotta have different colors on your plate. You can't have have the same thing.

SPEAKER_06 47:54

That's the thing.

SPEAKER_00 47:55

I've heard his three-year-old tell me they say A5 Why you're I'm like, hey, A5. Okay, no, they they provide them the best. Like, we try to do it for my daughter too, but yeah, she prefers like I'm just like mac and cheese. Yeah, I mean stop simple carbs.

SPEAKER_01 48:17

Like it's not like just although mac and cheese isn't bad and organic, and the cheese part, yeah, plenty of protein. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 48:24

Yeah, yeah, but she just wants carbs, carbs, carbs, and simple carbs.

SPEAKER_01 48:30

But like the crazy, crazy thing is, like, I picked up their cheese uh bottom, like provolone cheese. One slice has more protein than a whole egg. I'm like, uh, I'd rather eat the provolone cheese. Absolutely, you know, yeah, or wrap the egg in the floor.

SPEAKER_06 48:46

You can put it on so many foods, yeah, and it tastes great every time.

SPEAKER_00 48:48

Hey, I picked up a piece of provolone cheese. It's got so much protein in it.

SPEAKER_01 48:53

It's more than an egg. So it's like six grams or nine grams of protein, and it's that's crazy. Parmesan, too.

SPEAKER_00 48:58

Yeah, parmesan is so high in protein. Pecorino Romano are supposed to do really well with um like even like glycemic index, like throw your sugars off left and right. The the hard the hard cheeses are supposed to be the best.

SPEAKER_01 49:17

So, what are your thoughts on milk? Like the it's a huge topic, and like I've changed because I we used to drink like gallons of milk. Oh god, we never bad milk. We used to try to drink a gallon of milk a day. 2% reduced fat. Or used to drink the whole stuff, but like at the time we didn't know well, we were broke too, so it wasn't like like the grass-fed milk we get our kids, but like you spend an extra on milk when you're broke, yeah. Yeah, so we drank a lot of milk, and then I stopped drinking milk for a long while because everyone talks about how it's inflammatory and this and that, but like I I think if you're drinking the appropriate milk, it's not inflammatory at all. And like, you know, we're doing all these protein shakes and everything, and they're all milk protein. So you're staying away from milk, but then you're introducing it. Everyone's drinking protein shakes. I'm like, so where does it give? And you're adding milk to your protein shake is gonna add that protein on top of it.

SPEAKER_00 50:22

So don't worry, he's gonna try to wind you down a rabbit hole that approves him for breastfeeding still. Oh, yeah. No, after six.

SPEAKER_01 50:37

I got it would have probably saved it. In a capsule. I got it. In a capsule. Would have probably saved those COVID patients. Fuck that simulac bullshit.

SPEAKER_06 50:45

Increase their IgA? Yeah. You know, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 50:48

You can just mute my mic.

SPEAKER_01 50:50

That's better than the collagen protein, you're gonna actually build immunity.

SPEAKER_06 50:54

So I'm not uh against milk. Um, I'm not against dairy either. I treat a lot of people with acne, and so sometimes that can be a trigger, especially if they're allergic to some of these proteins. Um, but in general, like pasture raised, grass-fed, you know, grass finished. Um that's pretty good.

SPEAKER_00 51:14

Fermented facials. Your omega-3s. No, I'm serious. We should do milk facials. Um people who have no allergic reactions, just do like a high quality.

SPEAKER_01 51:25

I think if they're not allergic and if you heal their gut, I think it's gonna be they'll be able to tolerate it.

SPEAKER_06 51:30

Absolutely. Plus fermented, you know, kefir, like yogurts, cottage cheese. Yeah, love that as long as it's from like a quality source. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 51:38

Um, cow before I drink that. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_06 51:42

It better have lived a happy life.

SPEAKER_00 51:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 51:44

All right. That's the only cow.

SPEAKER_01 51:46

What do you feel about um? So I here we go.

SPEAKER_00 51:51

And Rush chuckles, it's gonna be good.

SPEAKER_01 51:54

Well, well, our our sister-in-law just bought some and got really sick, and I think they're like their son also got very sick that night. So unpasteurized milk, the raw milk. What are your thoughts about that? Yeah, I was like, Well, what about for a facial? So, so it's become big though. It raw. And like, but like the cases of Bartonella and hospitalization from unpasteurized milk.

SPEAKER_03 52:24

Completely preventable.

SPEAKER_01 52:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 52:26

We pasteurize it for a reason. Yeah, it's full of bacteria.

SPEAKER_01 52:30

I think this whole carnivore diet and maybe did the liver king drink. Did he did he drink raw milk? I don't know. The the guy known as the liver king. Goodness.

SPEAKER_06 52:42

He probably smells like that.

SPEAKER_00 52:45

I just drink unpasteurized milk and I burn vials of measles vaccines.

SPEAKER_06 52:54

They found uh like cases at like the Phoenix Airport recently. Yeah, and I was like Measles?

SPEAKER_01 53:00

Yeah, measles was yeah, they had a few cases in the round.

SPEAKER_00 53:05

Vaccinated. I just won't be against these strain of measles, but fuck it. It was 30 years, 40 years ago.

SPEAKER_05 53:15

100%.

SPEAKER_00 53:16

It's some type of measles, it's some type of measles. It's not with the COVID prong. Right. Ah, fuck.

SPEAKER_01 53:24

But the whole vaccine thing, there's parts of it that are good, parts of it that are, you know, there's certain things. You're like, you know, when your kid goes in and gets 12 different vaccines, you're like, what the fuck is going on? Like, this is not normal. Like, does he really?

SPEAKER_00 53:41

Yeah, fuck this kid.

SPEAKER_01 53:43

Oh, he doesn't have another thigh to inject in, so we'll give him liquid form, you know. Fucking it's such a- Guess what?

SPEAKER_00 53:51

We put 25 milliliters into one injection. Yeah, it's just gonna go right in the thigh right here. Like the largest muscle.

SPEAKER_01 54:00

Every virus, you could just probably wipe it off their countertop.

SPEAKER_00 54:05

Inject it. I'm gonna go for my COVID booster for the first time.

SPEAKER_05 54:09

Really?

SPEAKER_00 54:10

No.

SPEAKER_05 54:11

I was gonna say, what's gonna make you do that?

SPEAKER_00 54:13

I know. I skipped every booster and then, like, five years later, be like, oh, now that this has been discredited, I'm going in. Right. I don't want this to do anything. I don't want this shit from five years ago. I don't want I I don't care about getting the new COVID. I don't want the old COVID.

SPEAKER_01 54:32

The painful part of the painful part is like, well, honor health now, like you walk in and security makes you wear a mask. Really? And I'm like, what the fuck? And they have the bullshit masks that don't do anything.

SPEAKER_00 54:46

I asked them, I'm like, uh, didn't we just prove this like a couple of years ago?

SPEAKER_01 54:50

Yeah, and my face completely like those masks, like my face breaks out. I'm like so alert. It's a big problem. Yeah, yeah. And I'm like, I'm not gonna wear these fucking shitty masks.

SPEAKER_00 55:00

So they have like kind of like a metal detector and stuff that scans for weapons and stuff, and then once you walk through that, you pick up your mask and walk in. So I pick it up. So when they they asked me when they forced me to like pick up the mask, I slap the whole box of maxes aside. But you guys didn't pick out this gun, motherfuckers. Wrong worry.

SPEAKER_06 55:26

You're paying attention to the wrong thing.

SPEAKER_00 55:28

Kill as many people as me. Fuck off.

SPEAKER_01 55:32

Now they're gonna watch you. Yeah, right. They're gonna watch you. Now the hospital that doesn't have a metal book.

SPEAKER_00 55:41

Like every time. I'll find a place to hide it. Yeah. Off subject. Yes. I never had like, despite me being an Iranian, I never had terrorist thoughts until after 9-11 happened, and there were like$50 round trip tickets to go see him down in St. Martin. So my brother and I went went down, and we he's got a my brother has a really bad temper issue. He's a neurosurgeon, so he kind of flips out quickly. But I was just like 50 bucks, let's do it. And it's just like, we are gonna get fucking searched all the time. But two times on the way to the airplane, like in that tunnel to get into the airplane, yeah, they come up to us too. It's like, you two have been randomly selected. Of course, of course.

SPEAKER_05 56:42

This is predictable.

SPEAKER_00 56:45

I'm I'm fucking die laughing at the situation. My brother's flipping out. It's like the first time it's like, oh, okay, which you know, go ahead, search us, whatever. The second time he was fucking losing his shit. He's just talking shit to him the whole time. Oh my god. Fuck you, you motherfuckers. It's like fucking random search, fuck you. It doesn't help your case. I'm like, I'm just telling him, I'm like, dude, we talked about this when we bought$50 round trip tickets. Oh my god. There's gotta be a catch, dude. Like, it would be like right now, like flying frontier around the world for 50 bucks. Exactly. Like, it's gonna be like as bad of a situation as we had. I was just like, please fucking calm down. Let's just get on this fucking plane. Please. But coming back to the story, I always thought of like, I don't think I should even be saying this on here. But I was just like, oh, if I were to commit a terrorist act, how would I do it? And I'm like, oh, these motherfuckers just took over a plane with box cutters. It's like, I can't bring on a glass like object into the airport, but I can buy a drink in a glass bottle after security.

SPEAKER_06 58:07

It's safer glass.

SPEAKER_00 58:09

Pretty sure I could take over a plane with two broken glass bottles. Of course. Because you break one over one person's head, another over another person's head, and now you're left with two sharp objects to take over the rest of the plane. Extremely sharp objects. So I don't know. I this could be titled.

SPEAKER_02 58:29

You get creative how to take over.

SPEAKER_00 58:33

This is a wellness podcast, by the way. Totally all about wellness.

SPEAKER_05 58:39

We should have had a behavioral specialist here today.

SPEAKER_00 58:42

In case your pilot's forcing like simple carbs on you or something, you have to defend yourself against all these processed foods and shit. You can defend yourself. There's always a way.

SPEAKER_01 58:56

Do they give you glass bottles in the plane?

SPEAKER_00 58:59

No, nothing. Asking me for details, it's like further incriminating you. Oh my god. How much I've thought about this.

SPEAKER_06 59:08

We're adding to the case. They don't serve glass bottles on the plane. They do. They serve glass wine glasses. Wine glasses. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 59:17

Oh. Stop giving me the I don't condone.

SPEAKER_06 59:22

I guess they think that people in the first class are less likely to commit these crimes.

SPEAKER_00 59:26

They give them the glass. Oh god, that's another tip.

SPEAKER_02 59:29

Fly first class.

SPEAKER_00 59:32

You walk into the pilot. Why do you need to fly 20 Saudis in a commercial when you can just fly four in first class? It might actually be cheaper.

SPEAKER_07 59:44

Come on, God.

Simple Skincare SPF And Hyperpigmentation

SPEAKER_00 59:50

This spiral is totally stalled wellness. I'm trying to make my skin look. Longevity. Yeah. So I take a broken glass bottle and scrape my skin.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:02

No, no, no. So what's your skincare routine? Let's hit on that.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:06

My skincare routine. So I'm not a huge fan of like 10, 20 step skincare routines. Yeah. It's just it's not sustainable. Yeah. Also, your skin barrier is going to go to shit. Like it's just not gonna, you know, work. So for me in the daytime, uh last step always SPF. Um and what SPF do you use?

SPEAKER_00 1:00:27

What levels should people use?

SPEAKER_06 1:00:29

At least 30.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:30

At least 30. Yeah, definitely. What do you use?

SPEAKER_06 1:00:33

I use a 30. Okay. Yeah. I carry one uh by a Japanese brand, Shiseido. Um it's 45, but it's like a portable, it's just like a stick kind of. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:42

And I think the easier the better it is.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:44

Honestly.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:45

Yep.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:45

Um, and if you go to like South Korea, people are constantly reapplying their sunblock. They're carrying around umbrellas, like they are not exposing themselves to the sun. This is like, no, they don't want hyperpigmentation, they don't want wrinkles. And I'm like, yeah, makes sense. Yeah, but you still need vitamin D. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:03

They're also single because the darker they get, they lose value.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:08

Wolf women, they're going on strike, they're not getting married. They're not getting married at all. But yes. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:19

On top of this, PF. I'm sorry. I'm gonna go to the bathroom.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:24

Okay. You do that. Okay, so in the morning, um, I typically do just like a light foaming cleanser. Um, and then I follow that up with uh ultra-low molecular weight, hyaluronic acid, um, and a vitamin C serum, uh, usually between 10 to 15%. Um and I alternate that with either uh like a 5% niacinamide, um, kind of just for the hyperpigmentation.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:57

Um and then I do my moisturizer. So I like to incorporate a lot of products that have um Centella sciatica. Um, it's a herb that really helps to um increase collagen production in the skin.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:10

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:10

Um, but one component of it called Medecacide has been used time and time again in a lot of different Korean products.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:16

And one of my favorites is actually a product called the Medeca Cream, um, which stands for Medecacide by Centelian24. And it is, it's been superb. Um honestly I haven't had to switch.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:29

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:30

It's been around since the late 60s. Um and it first came out to help people heal their scars after surgery because um those Medeca sides are really good at like collagen regeneration and remodeling.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:43

And so it's really good at healing scars. Yeah. And so I really try to prioritize that, especially after doing microneedling, yeah, um, because it really helps to optimize the healing process.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:52

And if let's say um I'm treating someone with like acne scars, um, I absolutely recommend a product that has medicasides or centella um so that they can heal it a little bit more efficiently.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:04

Um have you thought about like compounding something that has your nicotinamide riboside or um and like your vitamin C what's a good you know, like how high do these vitamin C serums go? Yeah, because some people really like for me, like I think even like 10% oh like my skin flakes. Oh yeah, okay. Yeah, I my skin's pretty sensitive to a lot of this stuff. So but like how and how low could you go to have an effect with vitamin C? Do you know?

SPEAKER_06 1:03:41

Um I usually start with 10% if we're actually like actively treating hyperpigmentation.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:46

Um and it really just depends on like skin type too, um, and like what type of hyperpigmentation we're treating, if it's more like melasma type or post-acne hyperpigmentation, um, different like actives for different things.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:58

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:59

Um but overall I love a vitamin C that's at least 10 to 15% in concentration. But of course, um, if you're sensitive to it, then we can start with a different type of active that still does the same purpose.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:10

Uh maybe like uh niacinamide, tranxemic acid, for example, um, and do that. Uh niacinamide and tranixemic acid. Yeah. Um, those are super popular ingredients in uh different like Korean products as well.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:22

Why'd you look at me like that? Like you were like that word had more than four syllables. Did you not catch that? It's TXA. Now he's gonna uh pretend like he knows what that word meant.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:33

Or PDRN polydioxy ribonucleotide. TXA is used for you guys had me have flaky skin.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:39

I need all the help I can get.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:42

You probably just need to um make sure your barrier's intact, you know?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:46

Because a lot of the time with this I need is GI cleanse.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:50

Yeah, I think the diet, like fixing the diet, is gonna be the biggest thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:56

100% diet, stopping alcohol, liver cleanse.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:01

Yeah, that's a big one. Um, there's a lot of good herbs, uh, like burdock root, for example, that is really good at um reducing inflammation in the liver, but also acts to reduce inflammation in the skin too. Okay, and kind of cleanse it. Burdock. Burdock root. Okay. Yeah. Um, it's more like a traditional like Japanese um kind of yeah, the guy we had a few weeks ago, he talked about it too.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:23

Oh, yeah. Okay. You guys spat off so much shit that like you gotta go. I was like, what skincare? Burdock root? Like I I I hate Japanese skincare stuff. I prefer Chinese.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:36

Oh, interesting. Oh, I was like, what about it?

SPEAKER_00 1:05:39

I'm very racist when he comes to skincare root. He doesn't do skincare root. Yeah, I think.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:45

Come on.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:46

I once in a while use soap.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:48

What?

SPEAKER_00 1:05:50

Oh it dries out your skin.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:52

What do you mean? Being outside dries out your skin. We live in the desert.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:57

That is true. That's why I run into cats. Once in a while.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:01

Why?

SPEAKER_00 1:06:02

Please. I don't.

Longevity Comes Back To Basics

SPEAKER_01 1:06:05

We we just asked one final like what do you what do you think uh is one thing that's gonna change the in longevity medicine that most people aren't doing that you really promote?

SPEAKER_06 1:06:18

Um foundations. Honestly, longevity is making sure that you are age-proofing all of your foundational um aspects of health, all the pillars of health, right? So we mentioned sleep, we mentioned diet, um, stress, and um making sure that you're exercising, moving your body on a regular basis, going outside and actually getting sun. Um, these are things that benefit so many aspects of our health and have been shown to like extend life time and time again in various different studies and among different populations. So there's no need to go on crash diets or do some crazy expensive biohacking, like strengthen your pillars of health and foundations.