outside is Magic
A podcast about the intersection of creativity and the outdoors. Each week features honest conversations with creatives inspired by the outside world.
outside is Magic
Finding Common Ground with Kyle von Hoetzendorff
In this episode of outside is Magic, I sit down with Kyle von Hoetzendorff — one of the first people I met when I moved to Portland, and someone I’ve respected for years across the outdoors, creative work, and community.
Kyle is a partner at Lucky Day, a storyteller, a cyclist, a traveler, and one of the most thoughtful humans I know. This conversation was a chance to slow down and go deeper — to talk about empathy, identity, leadership, adventure, and what it really means to find common ground with the people around us.
We get into:
• Growing up and the early experiences that shaped him
• Learning empathy and navigating conflict with curiosity
• Transitioning between careers and stepping into ownership
• Riding bikes as a way to explore, connect, and process life
• How to keep your heart open in a world that feels divided
• Why community is the thread that pulls everything together
It’s honest, grounding, and one of my favorite conversations — the kind that stays with you long after it’s over.
outside is Magic is hosted by Christopher San Agustin.
Produced by Broken and Coastal.
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