outside is Magic

Finding Common Ground with Kyle von Hoetzendorff

Christopher San Agustin

In this episode of outside is Magic, I sit down with Kyle von Hoetzendorff — one of the first people I met when I moved to Portland, and someone I’ve respected for years across the outdoors, creative work, and community.

Kyle is a partner at Lucky Day, a storyteller, a cyclist, a traveler, and one of the most thoughtful humans I know. This conversation was a chance to slow down and go deeper — to talk about empathy, identity, leadership, adventure, and what it really means to find common ground with the people around us.

We get into:
 • Growing up and the early experiences that shaped him
 • Learning empathy and navigating conflict with curiosity
 • Transitioning between careers and stepping into ownership
 • Riding bikes as a way to explore, connect, and process life
 • How to keep your heart open in a world that feels divided
 • Why community is the thread that pulls everything together

It’s honest, grounding, and one of my favorite conversations — the kind that stays with you long after it’s over.

outside is Magic is hosted by Christopher San Agustin.
Produced by Broken and Coastal.
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