Quarterfinals, Post OP and Easter Recap I OG TRIO I Episode 27

In this episode, we give our hot take on all things quarterfinals, Jonathan talks post-surgery reality, and what it looks like to stay grounded when your routine gets flipped upside down.  And in the middle of it all - EASTER.  A reminder that even in the hardest seasons, there's still hope, renewal, and a bigger purpose.

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:05

Welcome to the day we're at the podcast. Do you have room? Are you comfortable? I feel like I'm like in the middle of the table and you're all the way in the corner.

SPEAKER_03 0:17

I feel very comfortable.

SPEAKER_04 0:20

I feel very comfortable right now. Considering where you were three weeks ago. Three weeks ago. This is three weeks ago. You're in like a palace right now.

SPEAKER_03 0:29

Wow. Dang.

SPEAKER_04 0:31

I don't know about that, but I mean the sunset's better. Oops.

SPEAKER_01 0:35

The sunset is better?

SPEAKER_04 0:37

Everything's better. How did it feel getting out?

SPEAKER_03 0:40

Good.

SPEAKER_04 0:41

Not of jail. I mean at the hospital. Yeah. How is getting out of prison?

SPEAKER_01 0:45

It feels like a prison sometimes.

SPEAKER_03 0:46

I mean, it was good. Honestly, just laying in a bed for almost three, I guess, three and a half, four days. You're just like just standing up and being able to walk. It felt good.

SPEAKER_04 0:54

Yeah. Did you just feel like super tight from that?

SPEAKER_03 0:57

Was it super tight?

SPEAKER_04 0:58

Like you just you stiff. Like you were so stiff.

SPEAKER_03 1:01

Your butt just starts to hurt so bad. Really? Yeah, for real. Just like in those beds are terri, they're not comfortable.

SPEAKER_04 1:06

Well, they don't want you there. Yeah. Except they do.

SPEAKER_01 1:09

They do kind of want you there though, because it's like money. Every night. Every night. We made the joke when you get back.

SPEAKER_04 1:18

I was like, the amount of times they just go peep.

SPEAKER_01 1:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:20

That's exactly what it's like. Stop it. They're scan everything. Everything.

SPEAKER_04 1:24

Are you okay? What do you need? Okay, poop. It's like you're like, stop it.

SPEAKER_03 1:27

I know what you're doing. It's like a game, basically. Like, how much can we get them to spend? What else do you need? In fact, one time they had to give me some like before going back to surgery, and it was deluded, which I just needed bad. And uh the lady couldn't get the scanner. She's like, I'll be back. I'm like, no, just give me the medicine, please. You don't need to scan it first.

SPEAKER_04 1:44

Sorry, sir, it's protocol. Hold on.

SPEAKER_03 1:46

Deep.

SPEAKER_01 1:47

Oh man.

SPEAKER_03 1:48

What you drinking, bud?

SPEAKER_01 1:49

What you got over there?

SPEAKER_04 1:50

Gorilla mine?

SPEAKER_03 1:51

No, I've heard of it having it. What is that? It's like a newer energy drink. Hiller drinks.

SPEAKER_04 1:55

Hiller does, and then by proxy because John McGuinness is obsessed with Hiller. He he loves Gorilla Mine. It's like it's it's huge though, but not every place has it. Like Sphinx is one of the only places that carries this energy drink. Okay. Which is always weird about gas stations. I've always known. QT doesn't like some Q that's weird. You know they have like all the energy drinks. Right. No, QT will have like way more like rain. Yeah. And then Sphinx will have all the gorilla mines and QT doesn't even hold it. Like doesn't even count. Or like some places only have Red Bull. That's another one. Where you're like, they have all the flavors of Red Bull and they don't have anything else. And you're like, oh yeah, I don't want Red Bull. Not that I'm saying you should drink energy drinks all the time. I'm just saying if I need an energy drink.

SPEAKER_01 2:41

Did you purposely match your hat to your energy drink?

SPEAKER_04 2:44

No, actually I didn't mean to. I just is my this is my favorite flavor, Bombsicle. Remember those when you used to have when you were a kid? It's the best flavor.

SPEAKER_01 2:50

It's very aesthetically.

SPEAKER_03 2:51

Does it have beta alanine in it?

SPEAKER_04 2:53

Is that why I'm itching?

SPEAKER_03 2:55

Then good. Yeah, that's great. That's always not like seasonal.

SPEAKER_01 2:58

Have you already worked out today?

SPEAKER_04 2:59

I did. No, there's no beta alanine.

SPEAKER_01 3:01

You've got drinking in your energy drink after you work out.

SPEAKER_04 3:04

Caffeine, uh theanine, saffron, hypersine, saffron, neclithyrazine, alpha GPC. I don't know what that one is. Uh uridine monophosphate. There's no beta-alanine, though.

SPEAKER_01 3:19

Isn't saffron like an Indian seasoning?

SPEAKER_04 3:21

What, saffron? It's a restaurant.

SPEAKER_01 3:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 3:24

Probably. No, I know what you mean with the beta. That's what I like about it.

SPEAKER_01 3:28

It makes you itch. You like the itch.

SPEAKER_04 3:30

Dude, that was the hard part working in a supplement store was the the guys who would come just for like, you know, whatever pre-workout, and the problem was you get used to it. Because you know how it is. If you drink if you drank a C4 every day, eventually it would wear off and you wouldn't get like the same beta alanine kick. And so then we just all they would do was just make it have more beta alanine. Yeah. And so the new pre-workout would be like if it was three milligrams before or 3,000 milligrams before, now it's like five millig 5,000 milligrams.

SPEAKER_01 3:58

What nutrition store did you work in?

SPEAKER_04 4:00

I used to be a manager at a GNC.

SPEAKER_01 4:02

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_04 4:02

Yeah, I was part of the enemy. No, not in this area. No. Okay. Back up in Virginia. And I hated it.

SPEAKER_01 4:08

Why'd you hate it?

SPEAKER_04 4:10

What was the worst part of it?

SPEAKER_03 4:11

Commission base, so he got it. He had to sling supplements.

SPEAKER_04 4:14

You got you got you had a base, and then yeah, well, it was your KPIs, and there were um there were some supplements you would get kickbacks. So anytime that supplement, like, you know, they dropped a new one. Yeah. So there was the time when all the time release stuff was coming out in this brand called Performance, and they were really great about like, hey, if you sell this, you get like$10. So you would be just like slinging, everyone comes in, oh, you got a hurt back, you gotta use this. I was like, I hated it, but I'm like, I gotta I gotta pay from my wife, you know, in my apartment. I need to make money. So it was it was not fun.

SPEAKER_03 4:47

But there were oftentimes admitting you lied.

SPEAKER_04 4:50

I I would never no, I would tell people flat out if someone was like, I can get this cheaper on Amazon, which I was like, man, eight years ago is so weird to think. But like I'd be like, then do it. I don't care. I can get this cheaper online. Then do it. I'm like, I don't I don't mind, but uh I did more stupid things when I was working there. Joanna said it was funny, I used to take like silly videos when I was in working. And that was you still take silly videos? I do, but like I would I she was like, you should start posting those because I would take like really silly videos when there was no one coming in. Because it's not like you you're just in this little tiny store, no bigger, maybe than double the size of this office, and you're just waiting for someone to come in. Oh, yeah. You're just kind of like exactly.

SPEAKER_01 5:30

And that was before like all the reels was a thing.

SPEAKER_04 5:32

Yeah, I mean, uh you could doom scroll, but it would I mean, what were you doom scrolling?

SPEAKER_01 5:35

What was it?

SPEAKER_04 5:36

Um Vimeo Vimeo Vine Vine Vine wasn't even that big then. Vimeo. Vimeo is a video street platform that most churches would use.

SPEAKER_01 5:44

Oh, I would think that. Yeah. I mean Vimeo's Vimeo, Vine, same thing. It's close enough. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 5:50

Reels, shorts, those weren't those weren't a big thing. Like everything you post on Instagram was there wasn't a real section, it was just went onto your main page, which is weird to think.

SPEAKER_01 5:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 6:00

Sorry.

SPEAKER_01 6:00

Well, you mentioned Hiller earlier. Yeah. So speaking of Hiller, what did you guys think about the quarterfinals workouts? Did we have anybody make it to semifinals?

SPEAKER_03 6:10

Hudson.

SPEAKER_04 6:11

Hudson made semis.

SPEAKER_03 6:13

May maybe Chris Pot.

SPEAKER_04 6:14

Of course Hudson made doing his workout and flip flops.

SPEAKER_03 6:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 6:17

Hudson, uh, goodness. I I looked at like if you can you can look online and see how they did for like the fittest of the upstate or whatever. Yeah. And Hudson gets first he got first in every open workout, and he only came he only didn't get in first in one quarterfinal workout, and he came in second.

SPEAKER_01 6:35

Which one?

SPEAKER_04 6:36

I think the only one was number two or something that he came in second or something. I didn't see. But he, you know, he was first. There's a reason why he's number one in the state. And also when you look at Hudson, you would never be like, oh, this guy's um like he's gonna crush everyone. He's so nonchalant about it.

SPEAKER_01 6:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 6:50

And then he destroys every single workout. And you're like, great, cool.

SPEAKER_01 6:55

Something super like powerful about being humble about it.

SPEAKER_04 6:59

Oh yeah, he's not boastful about it. But uh we've got we had a couple guys, so like Garrett, uh, who was one of my athletes back at OSC, he goes to the 530. He he made it for like the 46, because I think he's 46. Um, Tracy made it.

SPEAKER_03 7:12

Um quite a few make it to quarterfinals. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 7:16

I made it to quarterfinals. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:17

There's a Jenny did really well.

SPEAKER_04 7:19

She did, but then she hurt her back. I think.

SPEAKER_01 7:21

Oh, I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_04 7:22

Yeah, so she couldn't do the them, which was really it sucked because she was like number one. Yeah. And then she hurt her back on something like real bad. Oh my god. So she said she couldn't really do them.

SPEAKER_01 7:31

Dang.

SPEAKER_04 7:31

I'm I made it for the first time. I'm not being boastful. It was pretty great. The workouts were really hard.

SPEAKER_03 7:37

You want to tell everyone about your mishap?

SPEAKER_01 7:40

Yeah. So were you able to resolve that?

SPEAKER_04 7:43

Oh my gosh, yeah, because I'm an idiot. Um so I did all the workouts. I did them over the weekend. So I had like Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and I did I finished with the uh clean and the muscle up workout. And I actually did really well. That was one of my better workouts. Uh, you had to get 120 reps, so you had 80 cleans, 80 squat cleans with um dumbbells, and then 40 muscle ups, split it however you want. And most people did the 4-2. Like you'd split, you'd do four cleans and then two muscle-ups. And so that way you were staying fresh and you could keep moving. And so a lot of people were like either getting around like the 100 range, and if unlike the I guess you would say like the mid-tier athletes and all the better ones were finishing it, you know, they were finishing it like less than because I think you got 15 minutes. I think it was 15 minutes to do that workout, and they would finish it like in barely anything. I think Hudson did that in like nine. Um, but I got 112, which was a pretty good score, and I was like, all right, that's really great. And my tie break time was really great. And so I entered my score. Instead of putting 112, I put eleven, and then I hit submit. And Jonathan tries to call me, and Ilya tries to call me like at that Monday at like 250 something, like 250.

SPEAKER_03 8:51

251. You had nine minutes when I first started.

SPEAKER_04 8:53

What are you doing? And I was like, I just didn't, I didn't answer my phone.

SPEAKER_03 8:56

And I was like, crap.

SPEAKER_04 8:57

And uh was not I was not in a good spot. My brain was very dark.

SPEAKER_03 9:02

I'm like, hey bro, we got seven.

SPEAKER_01 9:03

I know I mean we're too late. Would you be able to like dispute it?

SPEAKER_04 9:07

Well, so what ended up happening was I emailed them and I was I was I think some people probably get there's like the the crossfighters who get a bad rap of being like absolute tools about it, you know, like like I like my score, you should fix this or whatever, or like you know, I shouldn't have gotten a no rep, and I flat out said, I'm not gonna make the game, so I know this doesn't matter, but I accidentally typoed my score. If you look at my tie break time, it shows that you know I obviously had to have gotten 60, I would have gotten more than 11. Would you be willing to fix it? And they were like, Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:36

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_04 9:36

And Jonathan and I were like, That's you never hear of that. CrossFit is like historically really stringent. Yeah. Like once you have submitted and the deadline's done, that's it. That's it. You're like, too bad. You should part of part of the open in the quarterfinals is being good at attend having attention to details and like entering your score properly.

SPEAKER_02 9:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 9:57

And they were like very kind. I think it's because I started off with like essentially, I'm not being a jerk about this. I totally know this is immaterial, but you know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:07

But for you like for you and for your records, it's like you wanted to.

SPEAKER_04 10:11

Well, more so because my my wife and I fought how many so many times over the weekend of me trying to get the workouts in and like around our crazy schedule. I was like, I'm so sorry, can I just go to the workout? She's like, Yeah, it's fine, whatever. I'm like, okay, I'll go do it, and then I'll come I'll come home. And it was just like after all that to have typoed it and then and then be like, Yeah. So yeah, it's brutal. It was good.

SPEAKER_00 10:33

But I'm glad that they were able to fix it.

SPEAKER_04 10:34

Yeah. I think I think the quarterfinals, I think they were good. I uh last year's was a lot more like rope climbs and stuff, a lot more like handstand work or like on the wall. I think this quarterfinals was a lot more like continuing on of that and uh the aerobic capacity with like not a ton of heavyweight, right? Because like even the overhead squats, what do you think?

SPEAKER_03 10:56

I mean, my opinion is I was pretty removed from all of it. That's true. You're fighting for your life. No, not really, but I was removed a little bit from it. I think that it was definitely more um I would say accessible to a lot of people to be able to do them. And I understand CrossFit's reasoning behind that. Um, but if you listen to some of the like JRs and Hillers and things like that, they're like, we will have people that we don't even know if they can snatch 225 at semifinals because the heaviest thing they had to do was a 115-pound overhead squat and and a 315-pound deadlift. And uh and so I see that side of it too. I mean, you're still gonna get the fittest that make it to the game, right? But there's going to be the outliers that make it in there that maybe wouldn't have if there wasn't one test that that was a little bit more demanding. Right, right. But but it was fun as a gym owner. I'm gonna put this out there to see I mean, I think we had 12 or so people make it to the quarterfinals, maybe 10. Either way, that's there was more than typical because of the accessibility to it. So there's I think there's two sides you could argue with that.

SPEAKER_04 12:04

Yeah. I also I mean, I said it, you know, it's not a sort of like we're more fit, but and like you said, it's more accessible. But it is a good thing when you have coaches at your gym make it to quarterfinals. Because we've we've said it like when our coaches work out with the class, our members always appreciate it. And then if they if the members then also see that their coaches are making like they're doing the open, they're making quarterfinals, it also just adds credence to like, okay, like this is a good gym. And like credit to Hudson who does all of our programming, nothing has changed in my life other than like you and I did nutrition, so I lost some weight, I got healthier, got better body composition, but then like I didn't change any programming. I've just done Hudson's programming, so that's even a good credit to Hudson as a as a head coach who does programming. Like, yeah, if you go to five forks, like you'll you'll do better in the open and you'll do better with your nutrition because we care about that, and you'll do better in your fitness. So it's like okay.

SPEAKER_01 13:01

Yeah, that's cool. Cool. Well, cool little hot take about the quarterfinals. I just wanted to know what you guys is like. What do you think of it? I mean, I participated in like the ones that we did in class. Um I think I did I know I did Wednesday. I did Monday. I thought that was quarterfinal workout, but it wasn't.

SPEAKER_04 13:21

No, that was just like a little workout. No, that was um that was Jackie.

SPEAKER_01 13:25

Oh, and I did Thursday too.

SPEAKER_04 13:26

I mean I was Did you do any of the one reps?

SPEAKER_01 13:30

Any of the one reps?

SPEAKER_04 13:31

Like we tested our one reps this week or last week or something.

SPEAKER_01 13:34

Well. You know why I didn't do that one. Okay, never mind.

SPEAKER_04 13:38

Sorry. Sorry. I didn't know if you did them. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I know he didn't. I never correct.

SPEAKER_03 13:46

Me and uh my daughter's one reps would be pretty similar right now. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_04 13:50

Why? So you said when we were on one of the calls, you were like, I know you're not the biggest fan of one reps. Why are you not the biggest fan of one reps of a gym owner?

SPEAKER_03 13:58

No, I think that's an easy answer. I've seen more injuries and people try to do stupid stuff during that time over the 13 years we've been open.

SPEAKER_01 14:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 14:04

I mean, I have a long time, and every time we do it, and on that day, some one at least one person tries to do something that they're not capable of and gets hurt.

SPEAKER_04 14:12

Did anyone get hurt this time?

SPEAKER_03 14:14

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 14:15

You don't want to call anybody out of the way. Knock on wood.

SPEAKER_03 14:17

I don't think so. Yeah. Um, so that's good. Uh but again, and again, I think some of that comes down to coaching too, but there's always that one one person that just they they can't get out of their own way and they try to do too much. Right, they really want to go for it. Yeah, and then something happens. And so it does make me. So that's why I mean I like seeing one reps, but I just don't like seeing that. Like, it's like whenever we do, we used to do if we're like, we're gonna do some sprints outside or something, so there's five. Someone tears their hamstring stringer groin like every time. We're gone. It's like, well, I guess you know what? We're just never doing sprints again. Oh my gosh. So uh I love that. That's why.

SPEAKER_04 14:56

We're testing sprints.

SPEAKER_01 14:58

I think it I think it's cool to have them for sure, but I definitely think like once a year, maybe twice a year, once a year, something like that. Well, we're adding the shirts now, too.

SPEAKER_04 15:06

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:07

Which like Well, I'll still be getting my thousand-pound barbell shirt, you best believe.

SPEAKER_04 15:12

I love that.

SPEAKER_01 15:12

Oh, you want to know what? I did uh test my bench press and I got 215.

SPEAKER_04 15:16

Okay, so then don't give me crap about asking you if you tested your one rep. You tested your bench, that's great. 215's insane.

SPEAKER_01 15:22

Thanks.

SPEAKER_04 15:23

That's nuts.

SPEAKER_01 15:24

I was proud of it. I was not expecting it to get it.

SPEAKER_04 15:26

Really? What did you think you were like, did you just not think you were gonna hit anything close to that?

SPEAKER_01 15:30

I wasn't 210 before. I was thinking maybe 200. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 15:34

Joel itching right now. I'm not itching. I'm not itching. As soon as you said that, no.

SPEAKER_03 15:40

His fingers started twitching.

SPEAKER_04 15:41

No, my fingers are twitching because I just had an energy drink. Oh, I know Joel went too well. No, I'm not gonna do it. He cannot wait to tell you the number. Because now you've now you've the problem is it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. Had he not said anything and no one said anything, nothing would have happened. But now that he said something and you're such a nice person, you're like, well, of course I want to know. And now everyone proves Jonathan Wright.

SPEAKER_01 16:06

Tell us what it is. You wanna know?

SPEAKER_04 16:08

340. That's it. What? That's it.

SPEAKER_03 16:11

I will say it's impressive, but I just watched Joel like start twitching.

SPEAKER_04 16:15

Because of the energy drink, the gorilla mines hit differently. I will say that. That's one thing I don't like about them. They make me twitchy.

SPEAKER_01 16:21

That's awesome. Heck yeah.

SPEAKER_04 16:22

Be itchy like I'm like, I want to bench. That's what it makes me feel like. Okay. Anyway, yes.

SPEAKER_03 16:28

That was pretty funny.

SPEAKER_04 16:29

I'm glad you had fun with that. Yes, 340.

SPEAKER_01 16:32

Nice! How big of a PR was that for you?

SPEAKER_04 16:35

Five pounds. Oh, so you had gotten 330, 335 the last time.

SPEAKER_01 16:40

Who benches the most in the gym right now, do you think?

SPEAKER_04 16:44

Probably me and Heath. Heath. I think if Hudson went for it, he would he'd probably beat me. But like I think I it's it's usually Nathan myself. What does he bench? He's usually about the same, but he hurt his shoulder before, and then Heath uses does it, but you know, proportionate to our body size. I'd say like, you know, I'm I'm I'm up there. Uh but that's all I did in high school, in college, was bench, because that's all that the guys did. I never did legs. So that's why I'm always super like behind everyone else when it comes to deadlifting and back squats.

SPEAKER_02 17:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 17:17

Um, but yeah, it's it is funny because I think but I think like we're getting I've seen a lot of people get stronger in the bench. And I I think part of it is because Hudson's programmed a lot more of those like dumbbell bench stuff and yeah, well, we bench every week.

SPEAKER_01 17:29

I mean we do we do push, pull, and press every week. Right, exactly. Which I feel like is important in some form of fashion. Trying to make sure we always get those in. Yeah. Well, lots of small talk here. I'm enjoying it. Uh but the biggest topics topic. Yeah, they're kind of like chaotic on there. But the biggest topic I think we wanted to hit on today, we have Easter coming up. This will probably air post Easter, but um one of the things that we like to talk about on the podcast is our faith. And so I thought it would be really cool to share about Easter and kind of like what it means to us as believers and Christians. And I think it's a really cool thing to be able to share about it and talk about it. And so, yeah, we're gonna talk about Easter. So which one of you fellas wanna go first? What is Easter? John, go first. No, it's all you.

SPEAKER_03 18:18

No, you go first. Listen, I'm I'm removed from the podcast. I gotta get some confidence from you, so let's go. Removed from the podcast. It's been how many months since I've been on here?

SPEAKER_04 18:28

Uh what are you like? What's wrong with okay, fine. Yeah. So it's interesting. Easter, like when you're being a pastor, Easter is all about Sunday morning. It's hard not to be. You know, like when that's you're in you have two services every year that are like the service. And so Easter is huge, and you spend it's almost like the week after Christmas is all thinking about Easter. And but then when you you're no longer doing that, Easter is I feel like it's it becomes more personal in not like it wasn't before, but it is because now it's it it is like you make as much of a big deal out of it as you can because that's all that it is. No one's uh asking you to do that for Sunday. It's it's you and so um but it's I think the the thing that's helped me is having uh kids with Nora and Lucy and Edmund is like what does the hope of the resurrection uh give me to give to them is what Easter is was meaning a lot to me now, right? Is it's not it's no longer what does it do for on a Sunday morning or you know for the year or like what is it in relation to whatever? It's more as a parent, how does the hope of the resurrection impact me? And then how do I give that to them to now that that they can take that, right? And so and but it's not easy. I mean, like life is there's a lot, and then you know, you blink and you're at Easter and you're supposed to be like, Oh yeah, the resurrection. And I feel like that's hard sometimes. It's like you you were in the hospital three weeks ago, and now Easter. So it's hey, resurrection's important, right? And you're like, dude, I was I was having someone go beep, beep, beep and scan like a bunch of drugs, you know, half half the time, whatever. Uh and then you know, like you've you've got kids yourself and you've got stuff with the gym, and now we're supposed to like the the resurrection is super important. I think it's hard, but um I think it's the hope. That's the thing that I've been trying to focus on more and more is what does the hope of the resurrection do for me today, and then how do I translate that into things that the girls and you know eventually Edmund could take?

SPEAKER_01 20:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 20:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:35

So what are like um we might touch this here and then come back because I want to ask him what his like what Easter means to him as well, and then I will also, but what are some things that you do to help your kids?

SPEAKER_04 20:47

Because what are the ages seven, six, and eighteen months.

SPEAKER_01 20:51

Okay, so like what are some things that you do to incorporate kind of explaining Easter? Because like Easter is like it's a pretty brutal thing, yeah you know what I mean? And like explaining like explaining some of those details, but on like their level can sometimes be a challenge. And my girls, like some of the questions they ask, I'm like, man, how do I answer that without being like so brutal? But like, what are some ways that you um share Easter with your children?

SPEAKER_04 21:20

Well, I'm not uh there are a lot of people that do it better. I'm still figuring out how to do that as a parent of young kids, specifically not as someone who's like your life is ministry. Um, but what we've done was even just kind of like talking about what we were doing over the weekend, right? Like, what is Good Friday? Yeah, you know, we talked about why it's called Good Friday. Because what did she I Lucy named it what did she call it? She named it Death Friday. And I was like, okay, I mean, you're not wrong, but we talked about like why we call it Good Friday versus like Death Friday, because she's like, Well, Jesus died on Friday, and I'm like, Yeah, and yeah, it's very like black and white. Uh but like that, that was it was just a conversation we had, like it. was good that he died because because he died we were completely saved from our sins and he paid the debt and then you know then he rose from the grave and that's why it's we celebrate the resurrection on on Sunday or on Easter. Um and so that was like even just that little thing was like talking through why Friday's good.

SPEAKER_01 22:19

You know, so yeah cool. All right sir.

SPEAKER_04 22:23

Do you have your confidence now?

SPEAKER_03 22:24

I do think yeah um what was the question again? For Easter honestly similar to what he said is finding balance because my kids are like uh Easter egg hunt, family's coming over, candy. And I think those things are good, you know, but but finding that balance of uh hey this is like the basis of our faith. This is what mommy and daddy believe in and this is why we believe in this it would be the showing trying to show that importance to our kids of similar like there's sometimes some of it they don't quite comprehend all of it like why would that happen? How did that happen? But trying to make them understand it in how that is applicable to their lives, our lives why we believe that is like our foundation of our faith. So just expressing that obviously we go to eat church regularly but on Easter Sunday morning and we try to make it hey like why why are we going? Why are we worshiping um and why why do we do this? So trying to get that importance across them it's hard sometimes is what I'm saying. It's tough, you know? Because again the same thing it's like they get out and they're like Easter egg hunt time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:35

So Michelle's favorite kind of Easter egg candy or Easter candy. Do you have a favorite or do you not like it?

SPEAKER_03 23:40

I don't mind it I just get I can't do jelly beans it's like too why are jelly beans like Easter egg candy bean boozled before oh when you get like a secret flavor tast like fart or like throw up or something?

SPEAKER_04 23:53

Or like I I I'm sorry I'm gonna say this right now. If you are someone who actively goes and buys peeps from the store because you like them I don't I'm gonna call the cops.

SPEAKER_03 24:02

I agree I mean that's something yeah I don't know like who are you?

SPEAKER_04 24:05

It's like this it's like Fig Newton's who are the people that are buying these foods like yet you have a prominent position in this the grocery store that you're like I gotta get my peeps.

SPEAKER_01 24:13

Don't I could throw down on a few uh Easter eggs though the peanut butter chocolate um I like the Cadbury or the ones with the caramel like the dark chocolate anything dark chocolate.

SPEAKER_04 24:24

Do you guys do money in your eggs too or no?

SPEAKER_01 24:26

Yeah yeah like a dollar fifty cent.

SPEAKER_04 24:28

Yeah something like that.

SPEAKER_01 24:30

Where they when they get excited because they shake it and they can hear that there's coins in there.

SPEAKER_03 24:34

Yeah. No. So yeah just finishing this that uh the finding that balance of that's the basis of our faith also enjoying family time enjoying the the tradition of doing an Easter egg hunt and having let Brittany does this so let me preface I love my kids but I am not a creative in that way at all. So she does all the Easter baskets and all that stuff and makes yeah and the kids wake up in the morning and they're like can't wait to see their Easter basket and I think that's fun. I you know um I don't think that we put we try to just not put more emphasis on that than the purpose of our face. But I think it's fun to have those traditions.

SPEAKER_04 25:10

Did you get Easter baskets when you were kids too? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:12

I think so we definitely did Easter eggs we decorated Easter eggs like we would dye them. Yeah we would boil them do the dip the dip thing and you'd have the little ladle we'd do that and then my mom would always go out and hide them in the yard and we would go I mean we'd be out there for like an hour looking for eggs. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 25:28

Do you guys used to get the big bunnies like the big chunks of bunny that was classic.

SPEAKER_01 25:32

Oh man I like then I loved those things so much. Now I'm like those things are disgusting.

SPEAKER_04 25:38

I know they're just like terrible or they they're they're hollow. Yeah it's not like good chocolate.

SPEAKER_01 25:42

No I also feel like things are just made differently now than they were preach. But have y'all seen the game where the parents like tape the Easter eggs and they run away and then the dads like run away and the kids have to chase them. That would be really funny. So that's we thought about doing that they tape all the Easter eggs to like the dads back and like chest and then the kids have to chase them.

SPEAKER_04 26:04

The funny thing about that video that I saw was like this is not a knock on those dads but none of them are like athletes they're just like Southern dads in like tractor hats and just like in boots and just running. There's something about country strong don't be disappointed none of they're not like seven or six like they're 13 and 14 so like these kids are like booking it and the dads are probably tearing a hamstring trying to run away from their kids. But I think that would be fun like to like a fun way to keep doing the Easter egg hunts as they get older is like you know all right you can chase us when we're but you have to chase us now instead of like looking for the eggs.

SPEAKER_01 26:38

Yeah so us wives can do all the cutesy like creative stuff. And the dads have to run you got the after on I'll do it.

SPEAKER_04 26:44

Let the kids like tackle you I would wear an entire Easter egg costume if I got to do that and run from kids. I feel like that'd be so fun. That would be really fun I should start offering those services you should do it.

SPEAKER_01 26:54

If you do it take a video and post it so you can see it.

SPEAKER_03 26:57

It would cost a lot of money to buy an Easter egg costume probably oh yeah you can make one it was like thousands of dollars thousands what sorry I've my frame of reference is like furry costumes I guess I'm thinking of like these like really nice you can just get like a rabbit costume that's true and tape that sorry I was trying to go if I'm gonna do it I'm gonna do it like a good$15 tape.

SPEAKER_04 27:17

I'm going like high cost like like first class level thousands of dollars. I don't know I just went that way I'm just imagining like Easter bunny pictures that you take at the mall or something.

SPEAKER_01 27:27

Oh yeah I feel like you could still like rig one up and go to the old hobby lobby and get you some feathers and some bunny exactly yeah yeah southern southern Easter bunny. Or you could trust like a Bible character just get your what am I Jesus dead?

SPEAKER_04 27:44

Oh I'm running out of the grave disciples I don't know that just makes me think of like like a super like a super not into the commercialization of Easter family would be like we don't look for Easter eggs. We have Jesus running out of the grave and everyone's chasing him now I'm now I want to do that. Just run out of the grave still wrapped in like swaddles and stuff or whatever. You had to chase me. Sorry anyway that's I'm unhinged. Hey you got your Bible verse? Yes.

SPEAKER_03 28:17

Wives submit to us that's what it is.

SPEAKER_04 28:21

But we said we have to share about like one to two of our favorite Bible stories or scripture. Yeah. Why you know on that so what's what are yours?

SPEAKER_03 28:30

I don't have a specific a story or a verse. Let's do a verse.

SPEAKER_01 28:34

Yeah I mean or if it's like a Bible like passage or like a something in the Bible that you like relate to um tip personally again I am a type of person that uh I like to be in I don't know how to say it's like when I'm journaling I'm in the now or what I'm reading right now.

SPEAKER_03 28:50

So I've been in Philippians, Colossians, uh Thessalonians and just reading that um the troubles and things that Paul went through and still his faith how strong it was so that's just been resonating really strong with me right now of um going through hard times and people had faith that is like unshakable and it's so easy for me to just worry or think about the negative when things are not going well and uh need to be more like Paul and his faith.

SPEAKER_01 29:16

Yeah and the hard times that like Paul went through I mean he'd be like chained in prison for preaching the gospel. He'd be like on like in the middle of the ocean and shipwrecked.

SPEAKER_03 29:26

Like getting stones thrown at him and being like I forgive him we're good God.

SPEAKER_01 29:31

And then there was the old Euroclodon you know what I'm talking about?

SPEAKER_03 29:35

Nope. Okay well that was over my head. Look it up does that make me a bad Christian no it doesn't just make her a nerd anyway I'll be a nerd for Jesus all day long okay so anyways I'm saying Jesus freaking No you should look it up I will he won't can you can you can you dive into this?

SPEAKER_01 29:56

Yeah you're just gonna make us do the homework um if I'm remembering correctly which I could be wrong because the only reason I knew about a little about uroclodon was because of a um youth trip I went on and then there was a speaker that spoke about him but I believe they were on a ship and they were facing like storms and then there was like a big sea creature called Euroklodon and that was one of the things that they faced and were afraid of back then. Are you looking it up?

SPEAKER_04 30:27

I am exactly some people say some it's just a it's just a northeastern wind but they're calling it like a beast. That's interesting. Yeah. You have to do some research on it is a cyclonic tempestuous north three northeastern wind which blows in the Mediterranean Mediterranean I want to see if I can find the Bible scripture that s mentions it. Acts 2714 it's a violent tempestuous northeastern wind often called Euraclio or Gregalia that hit the Mediterranean causing the shipwreck of the vessel carrying the Apostle Paul to Rome.

SPEAKER_01 30:57

There you go.

SPEAKER_04 30:57

It's a typhoon like wind.

SPEAKER_01 30:59

Okay. There you go but if you want to read more about it then you should that was cool. You're don't so Paul and overcome it.

SPEAKER_04 31:11

I love it.

SPEAKER_03 31:12

But so you're in the Paul's epistles right yes and just learning and just being encouraged uh about faith and doing big things for the Lord. Cool. So that's where I'm at right now.

SPEAKER_04 31:22

Yeah do you feel like this I mean you can answer this not or not this is like a little bit of a left field but because and most people know what happened to you but do you feel like now coming into Easter this year like obviously the difference is you went through something crazy. How is how do you has that changed anything about how you're coming into Easter this year?

SPEAKER_03 31:46

No, I j I think that I have a positive thing. It's like what happened in the past like I I think about looking back and I'm like man that was kind of crazy in the moment I felt like I was dying but like it when I got over it it was like my mind was already moving on to like what I gotta do to feel better and how to get better and how to so it's like I'm like it's already gone. Yeah yeah I mean I think there's positives and negatives to that.

SPEAKER_01 32:07

So like yeah I was gonna say and also it's only been three weeks so you could still also be trying to like process some things and figure it out like I have a little PTSD no doubt I'm I try not to think about it. Yeah really I know and Joel just keeps asking you questions.

SPEAKER_03 32:20

No I no not like that I'm saying like he's saying how does it change the former counselor in many how does it change I mean when I'm walking and I'm listening to books because right now I'm cleared to walk only although that three weeks is my second surgery four weeks from my first surgery that I'm supposed to be allowed to a bike and cycle and lift like dumbbells that will be tomorrow and so I am excited I'll be doing some more but anyways I I just sit there and think like yeah um what what was the reason of going through that maybe and um again I it's not like woe is me so it's I and that's kind of my mentality so I'm like uh what was the reason for going through that and what can I learn from that and um but I maybe I have a little bit more appreciation you come out and you're like man I'm so thankful for my health that's maybe what it is. Because you know for a second there I'm like Lord please don't let me have a colostomy bag. I mean I don't want to be rude I mean I know that stuff happens to people but that would change my life you know and um yeah like you hear somebody throw that word around for a second and you're like no no no no no no no yeah yeah um so I'm like man Lord thank you like there wasn't worse consequences or worse side effects of what it so I I don't but I don't sit there and think about like this Easter is different for me if that makes sense.

SPEAKER_04 33:32

No yeah I it's it's just interesting cut from the vantage point of everyone else like watching you go through it and then like then you're and the way that you come back and you're as resilient as you are which you've always been but then you come back and you like you didn't even skip a beat coming back. And the cool thing is for me it was like watching it happen is the duality of like what Paul talks about right you know to live as Christ to die is gain. So to live here you're an example to those around you but to to go and to be with him is to also gain as well and it's the interesting like when whenever we do we will never have to worry about anything happening like that no matter what. We don't have to have any surgeries on anything or stuff. Like our bodies will be perfect. So like there's the hope of the hope of the resurrection gives us the hope that like whether you battle terminal illness chronic illness with certain things you know whatever happens with your body like there's a coming come a day when that's not there. And then also like the resilience we have now it also gives us is a hope that can give to other people too. Yeah. Because like you said you're like I you know I could wallow or I could just continue to press on and that resilience in itself is like a huge boost to the people that maybe want to wallow and then they're like okay so like you said you're you're like well thank the Lord I don't have a the bag but at the same time there could be people who are wanting to wallow and they're like all right John nearly had to have that how all happen and he was like terribly sick and I could wallow but he didn't so I'm not going to so I think from our perspective at least from my perspective I'm like that's an example too for a lot of people to be like alright like it's all right I I can be resilient too and and know that to live I'm still alive and I have this life and I have what I have and I can use that for the glory of the Lord.

SPEAKER_01 35:21

Yeah. I was gonna go back to because I kind of wanted to touch on a little bit of like what Easter means to me and then kind of like segue into a little bit of other stuff too but like Easter obviously and like you mentioned earlier like the story and the life of Jesus Christ and his resurrection is literally what our foundation of faith is on. That's like the whole reason we believe what we believe is because we know that it's been proven like by the Bible by scripture but also backed by science and backed by people trying to prove otherwise and only being able to come up with evidence that proves his existence. But not only his existence but also his death and then also his resurrection and I mean if you sometimes it's hard because we go in such like a we go in such a like watch out your phones.

SPEAKER_04 36:14

Keep going.

SPEAKER_01 36:14

No you're good we go in such a fast paced like society and such a fast paced way of living in life where we don't like if you're not careful you can go a week or a couple of weeks or a month without even thinking about the death and resurrection of Jesus and like for me personally as a as a Christian like I get super like convicted about that you know because I'm like literally the reason I'm here on earth is supposed to be a for him you know what I mean like as a reflection of Jesus and of his love and how like wrong is it of me to be able to go throughout my whole entire day sometimes and like not even think about him. And I love that we celebrate Easter and because it's just like for me it's like one time during the year where like some of my socials are reminding me of that instead of doing the opposite. And it's like really encouraging to me to get on and I see post after post after post of scripture and you know being reminded that you know Christ is real. He died for me and because he did that and is raised again and living in heaven like I have hope of eternal life and I have hope that cannot compare it to anything that this world would have to offer and that is such like a huge a huge deal. Like it's literally the reason for everything. And um I'm just so thankful I'm just so thankful for him and thankful for the hope and for the faith that we have in him and because of him and you think about you know the things that he went through and the suffering that he chose to go through that he willingly submitted himself to and laid down his life for us and the the the beatings that he went through like a couple of movies that like we've watched and you know it's Hollywood it can't even compare to probably how real it was but like we've always watched the Passion of the Christ and that's like a really good like depiction I feel like if you are a visual person like I am like the first time I watched that movie I was a teenager at church and I just was like bawling because I was like this is real like a like the son of God chose to leave heaven and come to earth and go through all of that for me. You know for me. And I've heard it tall and said before that like when he's he was on the cross like he could see you thousands of years later. He knew that there was gonna be an Ashley Jordan Sutherland that would need him. You know what I mean? And like that's just that was really really really cool and it's really humbling to think about and yeah I'm just really thankful and um I feel like my uh family has had to like face the reality of of near death experiences and what that could look like um a lot like my dad he's bless his heart thank the Lord he's still here but he's literally almost died 10 times in the last two years. I mean it's just crazy and you know the Lord still has him here on earth and like for a while I went through a couple of months where I was like kind of angry and and and bitter about it and a little bit like depressed and anxious about it. But I'm like why you know I have hope and we have hope and the worst thing that could happen to someone on this earth is dying. But as a Christian that can also be the best thing that can happen to a person. You know what I mean? Because that's what unites you with your savior and that's what makes you pain free and that make like and so I think it's just so easy to get wrapped up and being so scared and so terrified about death and being so like caught up in all the things that I can't do and all the things that I'm going through and this body of mine and it's so easy to get caught up in that but then you realize even though it feels like it's lasting forever and we're still young I know you pick and say you're old sometimes but we're still young. We are young you know like we're we're we're still somewhat young. Yeah our life compared to eternity is so it's so short. Like even in scripture says life is like a vapor and that's like spraying a spray bottle and the mist and it's gone. And that's what our life is like and it's like man like what am I like I could go on and on about this forever but like what am I doing now that's preparing me for eternity? What am I doing now that's preparing my friends and my family for eternity? Like is everything that I'm doing in my life just based on what I can have right now, what I can have the next five, 10, 15 years? Or am I doing stuff that's preparing me for eternity? Am I paving the way? Like do do my family do my friends do people that know me do they see like am I pointing them towards that? You know what I mean? And man it it can be very humbling and very like eye opening um but yeah I know that was a lot.

SPEAKER_04 41:47

No it's fine. No you're right I mean the the reality like you're saying is without the hope of the resurrection you've got nothing which is the hard part too that you you think that there are people without that like if you think and like I've had conversations with people specifically on the topic of what's you know and you many people who've listened know my life with mental health right and figuring things out and stuff. So I I even think man there's gonna be a day one where I'll never have to be thinking about how are medications messing with my brain how do I get off of them what how what is even getting off of them look like when do you recalibrate when do the dark suicidal thoughts stop happening what's causing them like you don't that won't even be a thought anymore because all we'll be thinking is worshiping our Lord. Right that's it that's great. But then that then the reality then sets in of like there are people who there's that's not even a part of their frame of reference. And I've had conversations with people who are like yeah when we talk about what's what's your tether to keep you from let's say ending it and they'll be like you know a lot of people can say like myself included like I've got a family I've got my faith I've got all this kind of stuff and they're like I don't know and I'm going wow so you're telling me you have nothing that gives you the hope to think that there's a reason to be here like there's nothing that teth you to this life and and and there's no hope for the life to come and then you're like wow that that sounds terrible and there are people who that's how they live their life they go to work and depending on how work goes that impacts whether or not they have hope for today. And they maybe come to this gym or come to a gym and they go to the gym and and it's not a great workout and then then it gets worse and you're going so that's your life your day in and day out is this dark hopeless existence whereas for like you're saying for us it doesn't matter your your life could be never going to the hospital ever in your life. You just are are a picture of perfect health you are Job before all the bad stuff happens right or your your life is a constant job only when the bad things were happening. And like but the the reality is in both situations if you are someone who believes in Christ and have been saved like you can have hope in both times. That's just as strong it doesn't change. Because Christ doesn't. And so I think that's the that's the the thing that's more on my heart now and n more like you're talking about with kids is like the the legacy that your kids leave is directly impacted by what you've done in in teaching them the hope of the resurrection and the hope that they hopefully give to other people too in their circles.

SPEAKER_02 44:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 44:19

And then they create more circles and they their legacy continues on, you know?

SPEAKER_02 44:23

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04 44:24

We're looking at you. I felt like you I want we wanted you to say something. Just your two cents. Yeah, add something. He's just hanging out.

SPEAKER_01 44:31

He's our amen corner. He's just happy to be here. Come on.

SPEAKER_04 44:34

Come on. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 44:36

No, honestly, my mind was going, uh, just I was listening to a book when I was walking my four miles, like I've been doing every day. Uh from Mark Batterson. Um don't know if you know him, but he's he was like, as believers, we should be known what we believe in and what we stand for more than what we're against. And I'm saying that preaching to myself too. Um I hope that people can look at me and you guys as well to know that, like, hey, we fail, I fail all the time. Like I'm riddled by failure. Um but I have hope in Christ and I love the Lord, and that's what my foundation and my faith is in. And uh that's what I stand for, and that's what I believe in. And so hearing both of what you guys were saying, I was like, man, yeah, just like I hope people don't look at me and know what I'm against and not what I stand for. Exactly.

SPEAKER_04 45:22

But that's like, I mean, that's a the taking it like full circle back to being in a gym. I mean, a coach isn't a coach, especially in CrossFit, should not be about what we're against. It should be about what we're for. And we're for them growing and becoming the best version of themselves physically. And so it's when we're talking about nutrition, it's not we're against you eating you know ice cream. It's like we're against you not taking care of like your body that the Lord's given you, right?

SPEAKER_01 45:46

Yeah, we're for Jonathan's definitely not against eating ice cream. We're for you.

SPEAKER_04 45:50

We're for you getting your 10,000 steps in, not because we want you to lose weight, but because we know movement is gonna help is medicine, right? We're for you trying to do hard things in your day and you trying to get better at skill work and stuff like that, because we know that as you age, it's really easy to stop being able to do stuff and you just kind of settle for whatever you think your body is capable of. But you know, so like to me, the person that always stands out to me is Miss Vicky, who goes to the 530, who like I say this all the time she can now jump rope, and I give everyone crap about it because I'm like, this person has been through the ringer in her life, and she was like, I can't jump rope, I'm gonna jump rope. And she started practicing jumping rope, and now she jump ropes. And I'm like, exactly. Yeah, you like you've gone through so much, you've then said, I'm gonna be resilient, I'm gonna lose weight, I'm gonna care about my nutrition, and I'm gonna try to get better at skills. And I was like, that's it. It wasn't what she didn't have, it's what she did have, and she's working on that, and that's what you're saying. Like, and as a coach, we should be known for that. Five forks should be known as a as a gym that has coaches that are for things, not just against things.

SPEAKER_01 46:55

For sure, for sure.

SPEAKER_04 46:56

Do we want to do the typical what was it? What have you learned? Was it what you've been learning recently?

SPEAKER_01 47:02

Yeah, we can all take a little jab on it.

SPEAKER_04 47:04

You go first.

SPEAKER_01 47:05

Um, I might need a minute.

SPEAKER_03 47:07

I've already answered this because I just talked about what I've been reading.

SPEAKER_04 47:09

That's true. Okay, mine uh the medication thing, like learning about just how medication impacts your body. I'm not saying I'm for or against medication, but specifically for me, woof, like just even seeing how my body changed being on um anxiety medication and now getting off of it and trying to figure out like my body's trying to recalibrate, and in itself has been just like, wow, that's it's just nuts. But it's it's starting to find the calibration. And so um learning that like there is an element of the Lord has designed our bodies to constantly seek calibration, and so there is something ingrained in our DNA, and so we need to be we need to be careful anytime we're like I'm just gonna I'm gonna rely on this, and I'm not saying you don't. I trust me, as someone like you all know I had I had to get on medicine because I was in a really bad place, but you should no, we should never be so reliant on something that's external to ourselves, and I think that's something to be that I'm learning is like what was I reliant on? And in being reliant, I was not resilient and not letting my body be resilient, and so that's what I've been kind of learning. Once again, I'm not saying medicine is bad. Trust me, I was on it. So there you go.

SPEAKER_01 48:20

I mean, I feel like I'm constantly being taught lessons day by day, week by week, because I'll there's always learning. There's always a lesson to be learned, there's always something that can be done better. Like, yeah, I mean, constantly lesson.

SPEAKER_04 48:36

Smack the table like 10 more times, please. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01 48:40

Um, but more recently than not, and I feel like this is something that the Lord is like literally like trying to grind over my head constantly, but I just like have a hard time like being okay with it, is like knowing that it's okay to say no. And um that's something that I have to like really work a lot a lot. But not only like being able to say no, but like being able to say no and then like not lose sleep over saying no. Yeah, and like not lose peace over saying no. So that's like a constant thing that I'm like trying to like learn and get better at. Um but yeah, lessons always being learned over here for sure. I was gonna, if it's okay with you guys, I was going to like pray. That's cool. It's not a little bit different.

SPEAKER_04 49:24

How dare you pray on a podcast about faith, family, and it's not a good idea.

SPEAKER_01 49:28

I know that we like I know that we like talked about like some deep stuff. And I just like want people to be encouraged by it. And like you mentioned, like, know that it's not about like you can't do this, you can't do that. It's like no, like there's just like there's this gift that's like been given for us and wherever you're at, whoever you are, regardless of what you've been through, what you've done, where you've been. I mean, I can promise you I've probably done been places that you wouldn't think Ashley's done or been and whatever. But like, I don't know, I just feel like it would be good to pray.

SPEAKER_04 50:00

Yeah. As long as you uh pray, if I can make a request, pray that someone listening who doesn't know Jesus comes to know Jesus.

SPEAKER_01 50:06

For sure, for sure. All right. Dear Lord, I thank you so much for today. God, I thank you for the opportunity that we have to be here. God, I thank you for the opportunity that we have to freely speak about you and to be able to share the good news about you. And I thank you for your death and your resurrection. I thank you for the hope that we have in you, God, and I thank you that you love us so much. And Lord, I thank you for all that you are and for all that you do. God, I pray that if there's anybody that doesn't know you, God, I pray that they would come to know you. And Lord, know that they can just run to you and you'll be there with arms open wide. And I just thank you, and I love you, and we give you praise. Jesus' name.

SPEAKER_04 50:52

Amen. Like, subscribe, share with your friends.