What if We?
What If We? is a new podcast about advocacy, persuasion, and the messages that move us. Hosted by Kaitlin Funaro from advocacy agency RALLY, each episode features real talk with advocates and strategists working on issues like marriage equality, education equity, climate action, racial justice, and many others. Follow wherever you get your podcasts, and reach out to us at pod@wearerally.com.
What if We?
Emotions > Facts: How MTV’s 16 & Pregnant and Jersey Shore became an advocacy juggernaut
Why do we remember stories, not statistics?
Persuasion isn’t just about presenting the facts—it’s about connecting with people on an emotional level. Today in our series The Art and Science of Persuasion, Kaitlin Funaro talks with Stephen Friedman, former president of MTV and adjunct professor at Columbia University, and Jason Rzepka, Senior Director at RALLY, to discuss how storytelling and emotional engagement can drive real-world impact. From MTV campaigns that shaped cultural conversations to lessons for today’s advocacy work, they reveal why tapping into emotion often works better than relying on data.
In This Episode:
- How MTV used reality TV like 16 and Pregnant, Teen Mom, and Jersey Shore to connect with audiences through story and emotion
- Why connecting emotionally—rather than overloading with facts—can change minds, especially among audiences that aren’t already convinced or aware
- The role of authentic, relatable storytelling in shaping public opinion and fostering social change
- Strategies for advocates to integrate emotional storytelling without sacrificing credibility or forcing a narrative
- Lessons from reality and scripted TV on how narrative can spark awareness, action, and empathy
- How partnering with professional storytellers and showing social issues through personal journeys engages, educates, and inspires audiences
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About RALLY:
RALLY is an advocacy communications firm that works with foundations, nonprofits, businesses, and campaigns to change the way people think and act around today’s biggest social and political challenges.
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