The Higher Valleys Podcast

Life After Us.

Spencer Paysinger & Jelani Jenkins Season 1 Episode 7

In this deeply moving and expansive episode of Higher Valleys, Jelani and Spencer hold space for one of the most important and often avoided conversations—legacy planning and death.

What begins as a casual catch-up turns into a profound dialogue on life insurance, wills, family trusts, and the emotional weight of preparing for the inevitable. With raw honesty and personal stories, they reflect on the financial tools that can protect a family’s future and the emotional intelligence required to confront mortality—not with fear, but with reverence.


🔑 Topics Covered:

  • The surprising dinner conversation that sparked Jelani’s curiosity about life insurance
  • Spencer’s early NFL introduction to financial planning and his current reflections as a father
  • Breaking down the difference between wills and trusts—and why both matter
  • Why having a family trust is one of the most powerful wealth-building tools, especially for Black families
  • The cultural silence around death in many communities—and how that holds us back
  • Deeply personal moments of loss: burying a father, losing teammates, and finding meaning in grief
  • Shifting from avoidance to intention when it comes to transition and legacy
  • Jelani’s legacy letter to his son Irie on his third birthday—an emotional closing moment that honors both fatherhood and future


🛠️ Tools & Terms Unpacked:

  • Life Insurance as a generational wealth tool (not just a payout)
  • Wills vs. Trusts: what’s the difference and why both matter
  • Revocable vs. Irrevocable Trusts
  • The concept of family offices—how wealthy families protect assets for generations
  • Tax benefits of placing property inside a trust


🧠 Quotes

“Why do I need to buy into my own legacy?”

“We have to prepare our kids to live without us.”

“You can’t pass down what you haven’t prepared.”

“We’re not entitled to more time with our loved ones—every moment is a gift.”


🎧 Tune in if:

  • You’ve ever avoided conversations about death or estate planning
  • You’re a parent or plan to be one, and want to build a meaningful legacy
  • You want to feel both grounded and lifted in a single conversation
  • You’re curious how culture, wealth, and grief intersect—and how we can reclaim the narrative


This episode isn’t just about death—it’s about intentional living. It’s about celebrating life while preparing for what’s next. It’s for the fathers, sons, and siblings holding space for both grief and growth.


Listen now and reflect on what it means to leave more than memories behind.

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