Empathy or Nah?

In this episode of Higher Valleys, Spencer returns from a family trip to Jamaica with stories of island detours, resort culture, and an unforgettable quest for the world’s best KFC, while Jelani reflects on the gratitude and collaboration that shine through in Jamaican life.

As fall settles in, the hosts celebrate “hoodie season,” trading laughs about crunchy-leaf ASMR and sharing how small joys become fuel for big goals. They dive into the realities of parenting, negotiating with strong-willed kids, resisting the urge to “lessonize” every moment, and finding peace amid overstimulation.

The conversation takes a heavier turn as they process the shocking on-camera shooting of Charlie Kirk, unpacking society’s growing desensitization to violence and the policing of trauma responses. And in a powerful finale, Spencer reads a Legacy Letter to his older brother, a heartfelt tribute to family, resilience, and the ties that define true legacy.

Together, they explore:

• The beauty and complexity of Jamaica’s culture and community spirit.
• How early “New Year” habits during hoodie season set up lasting momentum.
• The art of parenting when kids demand explanations for everything.
• Guarding your mental feed and emotional health in the age of viral violence.
• Why expressing gratitude through a Legacy Letter strengthens family bonds.

Quotes

“Watching locals stop everything to help each other on a country road - Jamaica reminded me what community really means.” – SPENCER

“I fight the urge to turn every moment into a lesson. Sometimes you just let them play and figure it out.” – JELANI

“Small joys like a perfect crunchy leaf can recharge you more than a vacation.” – SPENCER

“That Legacy Letter to my brother? It’s about honoring the people who shape us while we can.” – SPENCER

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