CZ and Friends
CZ & Friends is a podcast about what it takes to lead and evolve legal in an era of exponential change. Hosted by Cecilia Ziniti, former General Counsel turned founder and CEO of GC AI, each episode features candid conversations with legal and business leaders who are building for scale, taking bold bets on technology, and leading with humanity. Whether you're a GC, operator, or in-house counsel, this podcast is your front-row seat to the future of legal.
Podcasting since 2025 • 29 episodes
CZ and Friends
Latest Episodes
AI, Leadership, and Why Great Legal Leaders Let Go: Matthew Campobasso of Zone & Co.
What does it mean to lead legal without white-knuckling every outcome? Matthew Campobasso, Chief Legal Officer of Zone & Co., joins Cecilia Ziniti on CZ and Friends to answer that question head-on.Matthew brings nearly 20 years of l...
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Season 1
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Episode 29
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52:49
AI and the Cost of Getting It Wrong with Sarah Binder of BetterUp & Sophie McNaught of SVB
Sarah Binder, General Counsel at BetterUp, and Sophie McNaught, Managing Director at Silicon Valley Bank and advisor at Primary Venture Partners, join Cecilia for a sharp conversation on how legal and business leaders think about risk when the ...
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Season 1
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Episode 28
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47:30
Translating Tech to the Courtroom: Michael Jacobs of JAMS on the Smartphone Wars and AI
Michael Jacobs, recently retired Partner and Trial Lawyer at Morrison & Foerster, current Evaluative Mediator and Arbitrator at JAMS, has spent decades at the center of the biggest technology disputes of our time, including Oracle v. Go...
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Season 1
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Episode 27
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48:40
Scaling Legal in Education: Elana Freeman of Swing Education
How do you scale legal and compliance in one of the most complex regulatory environments, without becoming the “no” department?In this episode of CZ & Friends, Cecilia Ziniti sits down with Elana Freeman, Head of Legal & Complian...
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Season 1
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Episode 26
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40:36
The Tolstoy Test for Legal Leadership: Ron Bell of Collective Health (ex-Yahoo, Apple)
Ron Bell shares lessons from nearly three decades in Silicon Valley. From Apple during its near-collapse, to Yahoo’s formative years building one of the Valley’s first scaled in-house legal departments, to leading legal and administrative funct...
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Season 1
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Episode 25
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48:42