The Future of Fandom
In today’s digital world, engaging fans isn’t optional—it’s everything.
Future of Fandom is the podcast for sports leagues, broadcasters, and digital platforms who know that the old playbook for audience engagement no longer works. Hosted by the team at LiveLike—the leading enterprise engagement and loyalty platform—this series explores how the most forward-thinking organisations are using gamification, loyalty programs, and community-driven experiences to deepen fan relationships and drive real business results.
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The Future of Fandom
How NASCAR is Winning Over the Next Generation of Fans - Media Rights, Original Content & What's Next
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NASCAR is rewriting the playbook on how a legacy sport stays relevant in a fragmented media landscape.
Struggling to balance a loyal core fan base with the need to attract younger, digitally native audiences? Wondering how to future-proof your media strategy when consumption habits shift faster than your rights cycle?
Brian Herbst is EVP and Chief Media & Revenue Officer at NASCAR, where he oversees the sport's billion-dollar-plus media rights business, a $60 million in-house production facility, and distribution across 185 countries. He's been with the organisation for 21 years, rising from intern to architect of one of the most ambitious broadcast operations in American sport.
In this episode, Brian breaks down exactly how NASCAR structured its multi-platform media rights deal, why they invested in building production capabilities before going to market, and how a driver incentive programme is turning athletes into brand ambassadors. You'll walk away with a concrete framework for thinking about content, distribution, and fan development at scale.
This one is for media executives, sports business leaders, and anyone responsible for growing audiences across linear, streaming, and social platforms. Brian covers media rights strategy, in-house content production, fan acquisition, sponsorship packaging, and international expansion.What you'll learn in this episode>> NASCAR allocated $15–20M from its media rights deal to pay drivers for growing their personal brands and the top earner took home $1M, creating real incentive for athletes to drive sport-wide relevance.
What You'll Learn In This Episode
>> Building a $60M production facility before entering media rights negotiations gave NASCAR the leverage to say yes to new partners like the CW who lacked live event production experience.
>> Amazon's younger-skewing audience didn't just spike during streaming windows. The 16% growth in 18–34 viewers carried across the entire season on all platforms.
>> NASCAR's vertical structure (owning tracks, media rights, archives, and production) allows them to sell unified sponsorship packages with must-spend buckets across teams, networks, and venues.Timestamps00:00 Introduction and welcome
Timestamp
01:36 Brian's 21-year journey from intern to EVP at NASCAR
03:59 Catering to different fan bases in a fragmented media landscape
06:03 Why sports rights are fragmenting and how NASCAR navigates it
08:55 Educating fans on where to watch each weekend
10:23 The content machine driving fan acquisition and relevance
11:47 How a social video became NASCAR's hottest selling ticket
13:51 Original content and the shift toward driver-led storytelling
15:04 The fan journey from casual viewer to loyal follower
17:49 Loyalty, community building, and fan engagement strategy
20:45 The Driver Ambassador Programme and paying athletes to grow the sport
23:40 Inside NASCAR's $60M in-house production facility
26:05 Why leagues should control their own content production
27:31 Archive footage strategy and the Dale Earnhardt Sr. documentary
30:49 Digital's role in keeping fans grounded to the NASCAR brand
32:41 Independent voices vs. owned and operated content
33:48 International distribution and the logistical challenge of expansion
36:24 Vertical sponsorship strategy and the next phase of growth
38:04 What NASCAR looks like in 5–10 years
40:50 The biggest misconception about NASCAR's technologyUseful resources
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