OnlyFounders
What really happens when two founders hit record?
Welcome to OnlyFounders, the unfiltered podcast where Anne Gillaspie and Matt Lo—two wildly different founders with wildly good chemistry—let you eavesdrop on the conversations that usually happen behind closed doors.
From the brand therapist brain of Anne (Fix & Form) to the tech-obsessed mind of Matt (ChipBot), these are the deep dives, off-the-rails riffs, and philosophical rabbit holes that business owners crave but rarely get. Think of it as your morning coffee with two founders who aren’t afraid to disagree, throw a little shade, and get real about the humanity and science of building things that last.
Business. Branding. Technology. Psychology. Strategy. Swearing. It’s all on the table.
Grab your mug. You’re invited.
OnlyFounders
005: “You Have No Time to Be Racist”: How Startups Strip Bias in the Name of Growth
Anne and Matt dive headfirst into one of the rawest convos in startup land: race, bias, and who actually gets hired. From language immersion to startup hiring pipelines, they ask what’s fair, what’s real, and what’s just PR. Anne unpacks her own biases as a founder and female consumer, while Matt challenges what DEI looks like in high-growth vs. low-growth companies. This episode isn’t trying to be politically correct—it’s trying to be honest.
🚨 Stuff You’ll Want to Remember:
- Learning language = unlocking culture. It’s not just practical, it’s transformational.
- In true startup culture, performance crushes bias. You don’t have time to discriminate.
- DEI quotas are fading—founders want performance, not politics.
- Who gets hired often depends more on who’s buying than who’s qualified.
- Environment shapes opportunity—your hiring pool is already biased by zip code.
💣 Sh*t Only Founders Say:
- “You have no time to be racist.” — Matt
- “If your product sucks, then all the other sh*t comes up.” — Matt
- “People still don’t want an 18-year-old roofer showing up to do a $15K job.” — Anne
- “If you want to win, you eliminate variables. Everything else is noise.” — Matt
- “Brand experience isn’t just about delivery—it’s about who’s delivering it.” — Anne
💬 Lines That Slap:
“Reverse racism is still racism—it’s just the glorified kind.” — Anne
“You start dreaming in another language—that’s when it sticks.” — Matt
“Most people want to hire people who look like them. It’s not wrong, it’s human.” — Anne
“If you can’t speak English, you shouldn’t have been hired.” — Matt
📡 Where to Find Us
- Anne → Fix & Form - LinkedIn
- Matt → ChipBot - LinkedIn