Is It Hot In Here… Or Is It My Hormones: The Perimenopause Episode!

This week on Mood Swings, Kendra and Jae dive into the unpredictable rollercoaster known as perimenopause.

From random hot flashes and sleepless nights to mood swings that show up uninvited, the ladies get real about what actually happens when hormones start doing their own thing. At one point, Kendra even has a full on hot flash while recording, because apparently menopause believes in live demonstrations.

They break down what perimenopause really is, when it starts, the symptoms nobody warned us about, and the truth about hormone replacement therapy.

Plus practical ways to manage the chaos and why women’s health deserves way more attention.

Because if menopause is coming for all of us… we might as well laugh about it.

Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:00

It's your girl Jay. And I'm Kendra, and you are watching Mood Swings the podcast. Hey girl. Hey, how are you today?

SPEAKER_01 0:13

I am doing wonderful. I'm glad to see this weekend. Um, we just celebrated my baby's 23rd birthday. So exciting. We just did a little night on the town since we live in Vegas. Uh, did a little free street. Um, we didn't even do this trip. We just decided to kind of do some local things and do that. And she was really happy with the amount of people that were able to show up for her and um just hang out. So I am feeling great. Um, but I am feeling a little uncouth because, girl, I got myself a can. I didn't even give myself a glass of the Casamigos margarita. We're just gonna go ahead and open it like this. Uh-huh. Like that. Uncount style. Uncouth style. Uncouth style. It's cold, but it's just gonna come straight from the can. Yeah, so I'm I'm feeling a little uncouth today, and I'm drinking my Casas amigos straight from the can. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:11

I'm feeling happy. How about you? I'm not mad at it. I'm not mad at it. Um, me, I am drinking my Chardonnay, but it's the Chardonnay I love called Clos de Bois. And I think I'm saying that right. If I'm not, feel free to correct me. But I think it's called Clos de Bois, and it's a nice oaky Chardonnay that I love. They also have a buttery one that I'm not crazy about, but this one love it. That's what I'm drinking today. Jesus.

SPEAKER_02 1:37

Um because you're not a sweet fan.

SPEAKER_03 1:42

Not do not bring any sweet wine over here.

SPEAKER_02 1:44

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:45

Unless unless the wine has chocolate in it.

SPEAKER_03 1:49

Other than that, that is the only exception. Dessert wine, yes. I like it. I like it. Yeah. So what's your mood for today? Oh my gosh. My mood is excitement and my mood is jubilee. It's I feel evigorated. Oh god, I have so many moods today. Because I'm gonna be talking about something that is near and dear to my heart and that is affecting millions of women, and we're all gonna be able to relate and have a good time. So I'm excited. That's my mood. What about yours?

SPEAKER_01 2:22

Actually, I woke up and I feel that um I was thinking it was just my social battery because I was just entertaining for an entire weekend starting on Thursday uh for a long weekend and up to 22 people, right? So uh today is the first day, actually, the last uh five people left at four o'clock this morning. And I was able to finally decompress. And I think I was like, okay, maybe my social battery is really depleted and I'm feeling just really like just down and low and stuff like that. But girl, it's probably my menopause. I I forget about that because I was up at one to from one to four, so that that could also be it.

SPEAKER_03 2:58

How about you? You know what? That's the perfect segue for me to talk about what I was gonna talk about on today's show. I mean, you guessed it. It is, in fact, hairy menopause. So let's get right into oh, and before we do, let me just say tonight's episode is sponsored by hormones. Hormones that have absolutely lost their mind. How do you make a hormone? It's a joke. How do you make a hormone?

SPEAKER_01 3:24

I know, I just thought of what you just said. Um, I'm not sure. How do you make a hormone? Don't pair.

SPEAKER_03 3:35

You can use that in your stand-up, girl. You can use that for your charge, no royalties. You got it. Thank you so much. I won't. Um, but you're stupid. Okay, so all jokes aside, really, today's show is sponsored by a company called The Spoiled Mama. The Spoiled Mama is a woman's owned company that specializes in everything that you need as a mama in this world from lactation to pregnancy to aftercare. Everything you need, you can get it all at the Spoiled Mama. Well, tell me a little bit more about uh Spoiled Mama. So I use this hair serum called Hair She Is. It's really been great. It's been a godsend. I love it. It has a great smell, it feels good, and I'm finally starting to grow back some of that perimenopausal hair loss that I was so worried about.

SPEAKER_01 4:24

I'm so glad because you know, um, I started to see something on this side of my hair, especially because I also have anemia. So I started to lose some hair. And when it was growing back, it was growing back sparsely. I'm gonna look that up and see. And we can go ahead and continue to keep our listeners up to date with our progress. I love it.

SPEAKER_03 4:42

Shout out to Spoil Mama, the Spoiled Mama on Instagram. It's the spoiled mama. And you can mention the show's mood swings for your 10% off discount code.

SPEAKER_01 4:53

All right, yay. Okay, Kate. Well, I guess that leads us right into your specific segment of the day. And I'm uh all ears because I think I'm really gonna benefit from this conversation today.

SPEAKER_03 5:10

Listen, if you are anywhere in the age range of 30 to even 55, you are going to benefit greatly from today's show because it is all about perimenopause, right? And here's the thing I don't think anyone ever prepared us for peri menopause. Like we've all heard that menopause was coming, it's gonna be a thing. We've all heard that, right? But we've heard minimum shit. We've heard like, oh, you're gonna have hot flashes, and it's right when your period's gonna stop. But I don't think enough has been said about peri menopause, or as I like to call it. That dude, fuck peri. You know what I'm saying? Exactly. Exactly. He doesn't know anything. No, he doesn't. He doesn't. It's it's a lot, and I feel like perimenopause is like the the pre-game before you get to the big game, which is menopause. But the pre-game, to me, in my opinion, is far worse than the actual menopause, right? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Apparently, when your body turns 40, like it opens up a group chat with your hormones and they all decide to quit all at once. Like, estrogen's like, I'm out, and the progesterone is like, me too, bitch. So let's talk about exactly what perimenopause is. Because even for someone like me, that I feel like y'all all know I'm a science and facts girl, I'm looking up stuff, I'm working in the healthcare industry. I really did not understand what perimenopause was. Or maybe I should say I didn't understand it. I didn't realize all the shit that goes down in perimenopause. So let's just get into some facts right off the bat.

SPEAKER_01 6:51

So, you know, our lack of education starts in the school uh system where we just learn about the birds and the bees and the female and the male reproductive. And that's basically it. We have a baby and that's it. Then, then, and that's it. That's the rest of our lives. We there's nothing else we need to worry about. So true.

SPEAKER_03 7:09

So true. Yeah. And I feel like they should, when they are teaching health science, which, you know, sex ed, which they named health science, when they're teaching that, they should be teaching about menopause and perimenopause, because it took me by storm, baby. By storm. So perimenopause usually starts somewhere between 35 and 45, but it can start even earlier than that. So women even in their 30s, right? But we never got taught from our parents. Our our own mothers to marit through menopause, and we knew nothing about it. Yeah, and I think it comes from they not really having any information about it because no one is studied. Do you know how under underfunded any type of women sexual reproduction health is? Now, there's been tons and tons of work on erectile dysfunction, but when it comes to perimenopause, it's like you're on your own, which is crazy, it's mind-boggling to me because 50% of the population will go through this. There's like, maybe she might go through menopause, maybe she won't. Every single woman, whether you've been able to have children, not have children. It can so, like I said, it goes from ages 35 to 45, and it can last anywhere from four to 10 years. Okay? Four to 10 years.

SPEAKER_01 8:27

Girl, I was I thought I was done yesterday. I found out that I still had like years and years to go. But I always think I'm done, but I'm not. Here's the bad thing is that every year you've noticed in every generation, women, young women, young girls are starting their cycles much earlier in age. I think that that menopause is gonna start a little bit earlier as well. And we're gonna have to. Earlier. In our 30s, we're gonna be sterile because we can't reproduce anymore. Oh my gosh, that's so crazy. Yeah, the environment we're in, the lack of education, the lack of research, the lack of uh, you know, getting on it right now. We we learned how to maintain it or to um to treat the symptoms, but we never actually learned how to actually cure the actual process we got to go through.

SPEAKER_03 9:18

Yeah? You're absolutely right. And and here's what's wild about it. Over one billion, do you see me? Billion with the fee. Over one billion women worldwide will be in menopause by 2030. By 2030. Wow. There you go. So four years from now, right? And so, and remember, the symptoms start. The symptoms start years before your period stops. So here's my thing. I didn't realize that I was in perimenopause at all. And I know when mine started. It was right in the pandemic. And I remember specifically because I had a very specific symptom, which I'm gonna get to, which I didn't learn until years later that, oh my gosh, that was perimenopause. I didn't know that. So, yeah, so it's a lot. It's like your your ovaries just start slowly clocking out like a like an employee on a Friday night, right? Like an employee on a Friday evening after. It's just like I'm gonna sneak around and make sure no one sees me, but I'm clocking out this bitch. I'm done.

SPEAKER_01 10:18

Absolutely, girl. I I'm so at my wit's end right now, not knowing when I actually started. It could have been things, symptoms that I contributed to my anemia, and it could have actually been the menopause. Because guess what? Out of all the doctor visits, all the hospitalizations, all the transfusions, nobody's gonna tell me anything about that until I fought for four years to stop the situation that was happening with me, right? Because, you know, and I had to fight for own medical rights to get that done. So girl, you you preach to the choir right now. I love it, though. Keep going. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:52

So basically, when your body goes into this what I call revolt, right? Because that's what's happening, and your hormones are they're leaving, your estrogen is plummeting, your progesterone is plummeting, you're having all these crazy symptoms. Sometimes your period stops, sometimes it doesn't, sometimes it gets heavier, sometimes it gets lighter. It's just, it's a whack-a-mole. Like you don't know what you're gonna get, right? But once those start happening, you're not physically in menopause until you've gone 12 consecutive months without a period. And here's my thing: I get to the six-month mark, I get to the eight-month mark, I've even gotten to the 10th month mark. And I'm thinking, okay, I'm about to start, I'm about to go into menopause, then a period starts.

SPEAKER_01 11:32

And I'm like, motherfucking me, I don't have a uterus, so I don't have a cycle. What I mean, it's even harder to tell.

SPEAKER_03 11:38

Yeah, it's even harder to tell. Yep. Because, and I'm so glad you brought that up because even if you don't have a uterus, your body is still going to go through menopause. It's no way but to go through it. It's certain if you are a woman.

SPEAKER_01 11:51

I thought you were gonna say that you don't have a uterus, you are still a woman. I was like, yes, of course, bitch.

SPEAKER_03 11:59

So let me just say this. It is a perimenopause comes with a haunted house of symptoms. I'm just gonna read a couple. Okay, irregular periods, anxiety, insomnia, weight gain, brain fog, mood swings, joint pain, dry skin, low libido, night sweats.

SPEAKER_01 12:21

Oh god. Wait, are you thinking some of them? You're just reading all of my symptoms. That was in fact, again, I will have to sue you for HIPAA because you're you are reading my freaking medical record right now.

SPEAKER_03 12:36

Man, that was only 10 sentences, but they're uh doctors think that there's probably a a myriad of over 30, at least, at the very least, 40 symptoms that are all caused by perimenopause. So it's more than just hot flashes. So when somebody, when you're having going through something, don't let anybody tell you that it's just hot flashes because it's more than that.

SPEAKER_02 12:57

Right.

SPEAKER_03 12:58

Now, now hot flashes are probably the one of the most commonly uh shared symptoms because it says here that 80% of women experience hot flashes. So 80% of them. And let me tell you this hot flashes really wasn't my thing at first. I didn't really have hot flashes at first. I never even knew about hot flashes until um once I got once I got my final my diagnosis that I wasn't perimenopause. It probably took a good six months after that before I had my very first hot flash. But let me tell you this. I remember vividly the day I was in the grocery store with my sister. And I was like, damn, I feel it, like I could feel like the slow burn. I'm like, it feels like it's getting hot in here, right? And I was like, oh yeah, I'm hot. Oh shit, I'm hot. And it was just me and her in the car at first, right? We're in the parking lot. And I was like, What do you get the hell out of here? It's how hot in here. I get outside and it's like this nice cool air. It was probably April, so it wasn't really hot. Like, okay, that's good, that's good, okay. And then I go in the store hot again. And now I'm sweating like I never sweat before. All of this, straight away to Houston, all of this, all beat it up, just beat the sweat all over my top upper lip, on my nose. Yeah, all of this, all just like a whore in like a whore in front of the judge. And the thing is that I kept getting them back to back to back to back. So I was stopped when three minutes later, say it again. Did you moan? I kept having hot flashes back to back to back to back. It got so bad. I told my sister, I said, you know what? I swear to god, I'm about to take my shirt off. I have to get out of here. I'm going to take my shirt off because I'm so fucking hot. I gotta get out of this door. And prior before that, you're getting your PD Pablo on. Man helicopter, right? So that was my experience with hot flashes. So then also that, so like I said, that's probably the most common one. But also another common one, which is a big one that you and I have discussed in pretty much every last one of my friends that are in perimeniposit discussed this with me. Sleep problems. So nearly 60% of women report not being able to sleep, or they fall asleep and cannot sleep all night long. Yeah, that's that's a big one. Every day. Every that's huge.

SPEAKER_01 15:24

Be prepared to get Instagram and pug videos between 3 and 4:30 in the morning, because I'm just enrolling.

SPEAKER_03 15:33

Except when I'm awake and I need this shit, and then I text you, I'm like, hey, I know you're up. You're like, I don't hear anything back from you until eight o'clock in the morning. Like, oh, so the night I'm up, that's the night you want to go to sleep. We're like sometimes we miss each other by an hour, though.

SPEAKER_01 15:46

We go back and go, Yeah. I said, Oh, I got you. And then I'm like, hello? So then I miss you, and I think you end up falling asleep. Because it is a disjointed sleep, right? Um, I can ask my support maybe two hours straight just scrolling, but then I fall asleep and then I'd wake up again, I'd fall asleep, then I'd wake up again. You know, so it is kind of broken. Yeah. But um, and then and then I wake up, I don't know how long, and then I wake up at eight, right? So yeah, it's it's it's sucks. It sucks shit. It sucks dick. And you know why? Because I'm gonna be sleep like, right, you know, what times right now? 707. Give me about 23 more minutes, last will be sleep. So I can pretty much get up at one, right? Because I have to make my my time.

SPEAKER_03 16:28

Yeah. So yeah, so that's a common one. And then the third most common menopause symptom is brain fog. It says that 40% of women experience brain fog, and those 40% are saying that it affects their performance, their work performance, which I can say firsthand. So here's the thing with me about the brain fog. I feel like the brain fog has been the number one most dominant issue with mine. Yes, hot flashes were a thing. Yes, not sleeping was a thing, but the brain fog was so unbelievably real. And for me, it had me questioning, probably like a lot of other women too. It had me questioning myself, my ability, my skills, all of those things. Because by no means do I consider myself to be like a scholar and a super smart person, but I have done some pretty noteworthy things in my life. I've done some things, I've I've had some accomplishments that I'm a proud, I'm proud of. So when this and now I can't remember what the accomplishments were. But I know I did something. I don't know, bitch, but I did them. Right, right. Well, no, but the problem is that then I started finding myself in this place where I almost was questioning my sanity. Do am I getting dementia? Am I going crazy? I would get an email from somebody and I would find myself reading that email four or five, maybe sometimes even seven or eight times, trying to comprehend what was in the email. And then I'm like, am I going crazy? I would send it to my husband or my daughter or someone. I'm like, what does this mean? And they're like, oh, it means X, Y, and Z. And I'm like, how do you know that? Because we read it. I'm like, that is not computing for me. And that bothered me for a very long time. I didn't know what was going on. And I heard countless women say something similar to that. What do you how do you suppose it? Can you attest to that?

SPEAKER_01 18:20

Is the brain fog a thing for you? That's me every day. But we do have a mutual friend, um, and she makes a hella slam and spinach dip. Shout out to you. So she told me exactly that, but she was starting to question what the hell is going on in my life? I'm like going a little crazy. I don't know. How did I just all of a sudden become incompetent? I know I'm not. Right. I've been doing this job for such a long amount of time, I could do it in my sleep. But now I'm not saying that do the damn job. And to the point that I believe, and then I had another friend who actually had to take time off, literally take a little bit of a hiatus from work. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if she didn't do that, well, I'm just saying, you know, um, I she had other reasons as well. But for, let's say that if you didn't do that and you still uh performed in that same manner, if you didn't take the hiatus, you may not be with a job right now, right? So I think that was really real thing. That is a real thing.

SPEAKER_03 19:22

That's what Halle Berry has been fighting about, is trying to get some sort of like leave for women that go through these perimenopausal cer uh symptoms. So like when they are at their peak, when they're at their worst, that you can call in almost like an FMLA and report your perimenopausal symptoms because it it's it's legit, like that is legit. And when you said on there, she it makes me a little emotional when you said that she was saying to herself, I'm not incompetent, that really resonated with me because that was exactly how I was feeling. Why can I do this? You know, but yeah, that's what it is. And so there's also some very weird symptoms aside from the ones that I just read that doctors are saying that are absolutely 100% real. So if you've been going through this, then you don't be alarmed. I mean, this shit is real, and this is all backed by the Cleveland Clinic of North America. They have a menopause society, and these are some of the weirder symptoms that people are are uh expressing. So one is called burning mouth syndrome. What? Yeah, I've never heard this before. I've never had this before, but I have heard of it. Some women feel like their tongue or their mouth is burning, even though there's nothing wrong. Let me tell you something.

SPEAKER_01 20:35

It was this weekend, it was this weekend. And I'm thinking it had been like, because now it does happen with certain fruit, like pineapple, because of the spice or whatever in there, or the the fruit things. You get that like sharp, like your entire tongue feels like it's been like sandpaper. But the fruit salad had none of that. It had strawberries, it had grapes, blueberries, which I didn't even eat, and I I think because all I ate was really the strawberries, and my tongue felt like it was on fire every time I ate the fruit. Really? Or not? So I wondered it's crazy that you just said that. Now, it could have been just a reaction or something, because again, I know that men perimenopause can also just out the blue decide, bitch, you are allergic to this now, or and you don't like this anymore, or you're you like pickles that taste like dick. You don't know, it's just some whole shit that's you know, I mean, I'm not even pregnant anymore, you know? But did you say pickles that taste like dick? Is that what you said? Oh no, you have a nasty mind, Kendra. I did not say that.

SPEAKER_03 21:42

Just gonna sip my wine on that one. Anyway, so okay, so you may have that's odd. I mean, that's interesting that you may experience that. Okay, so another one, and this one I have experienced it, and it was weird, and I didn't know it was part of Mary menopause. I thought my body was falling apart. Electric shock sensation. Sensations. Some women feel random little electric zaps in their body or in their head. And this is from the North American Menopause Society.

SPEAKER_01 22:09

I, you know, maybe shock your sh elbow or something, you know. Um, I but my I would not know because unfortunately, my house is like a lot of carpeted areas and we shock the shit out of each other. Dog, everybody's a reach and stuff. Being all over the place. So either it's my menopause or I'm actually, you know.

SPEAKER_03 22:29

No, it's it's like, it feels I feel this every now and then. I always feel in a little right there in my head. I feel like the only way I can describe it is like a little piece of lightning. It's almost like your head got wired by a drunk ass electrician who lost his license and is doing shit on the side on Facebook or something. Okay. Yeah, it's like a little. And I'll just feel and I'll be like, ooh, what was that? And I I'm thinking, you know me. I'm always I got an aneurysm. Elizabeth, I'm coming, like, I'm on my way, right? But they're saying that this is something through Perry Minipause.

SPEAKER_01 23:03

No, that's the aliens that came down and started probing your ass. Because I'm like, that's some crazy shit.

SPEAKER_03 23:11

Like a little lightning. You know how you see Harry, the Harry Potter character, and he has a little lightning bolt right here. That's straight up my hand. That's straight up my head. That's not all the time.

SPEAKER_01 23:27

Because a lot of them we share. But I I haven't had that. That's interesting, right? Um, so it's the wording mouth. Yeah. Yeah. And so to hear from our listeners as well, what have they out of this list? And if the if we miss something from the list, is there something new? I would love to hear that.

SPEAKER_03 23:43

For sure. Absolutely. Because like I said, there's at least 40. So we know there's a lot of stuff we didn't even cover on here. But this one, which I get so much, it's called formication. And it's basically this sensation of skin crawling. Like so feeling like something, like a bug or something is crawling. Yes. I get that all the time. Yeah. What is that called? Formication. Formication. It's formication. So we got formication, confabulation. Thank you. And we're gonna get some more Asians in here. Oh yeah. Celebration. Burning tongue sensation. Oh shit. Oh shit. We're on a roll. Celebrity.

unknown 24:33

No.

SPEAKER_03 24:34

Sleep station. Disturbing. Okay, never mind. Um I said that. He said it. You missed it. Oh, you did? You said it? Oh, okay, okay. I should have known you said it, nasty. So I get bugs. I feel like bugs are calling on me all the time. I feel like it happens so often that now I don't even look anymore. Before I explain, the family'd be looking at me like, there's nothing on you. I don't even do that shit anymore. I don't even do it. Now I feel it and I'm just like, there's nothing there, which I need to get back to looking because one day I'm gonna look down. It's gonna be a fucking tarantula or some shit on me and I'll have a heart attack.

SPEAKER_01 25:07

Do you remember Do you remember we were at Palace Station and we walked out to the parking lot and and I saw either a bee or something, and then you decided to almost get naked in the middle of the parking lot? Thank God you didn't. Yes, I yes, I do. I definitely remember that. Yes. I that was real. That was not menopause, that was real situation, real life and death right there.

SPEAKER_03 25:30

That was and because, and there you go, I probably felt that sensation of the bee on me, but I probably thought it was for my cacation or for mication, whatever it was, and did even trip, and then you said there's a bee. So going forward, I told you that this day too. If you ever see a bug on me, just take it on. Don't say anything, because unless you want to see me out there, ponytail off, shirt off, running around, looking like crazy mole rat, that's what's you're that's what you're gonna get. That's what's gonna happen. There you go. Okay. Strong AF to deal with this. Yeah. Yeah. Um, okay, so another weird symptom, and this one I feel like is a little embarrassing, and maybe a lot of people don't want to admit it, but it's a true thing that happens. So one of the other strange symptoms is that there's body odor changes because the hormones, how do you make a hormone? The hormones can change sweat glands and your natural smell will change. All due to hormones. So, you know, for me personally, I feel like I'm not a stinky person, like I'm just not a stinky person. Just even if I'm sweating, even I just have never been that person. But I have noticed lately, like I can go take a, you know, I can go jogging or something. I can go do a walk in the neighborhood and I come back to Francis Saturday.

SPEAKER_01 26:45

I was Okay, guys, guys, guys, don't let her lie to you. She doesn't go jogging. She doesn't do that shit, guys. Don't don't let her fool you.

SPEAKER_03 26:54

Don't let me fool you. Yeah. Why am I lying? I wasn't jogging, but I will tell you this Saturday night, I had to go into the city. I had to go into San Francisco, and I was trying to get to, I was trying to get to the store, and it was like there was the lunar new year parade there, so I couldn't even get there. I had to stop at park at a parking garage, walk like six blocks, and I was going to Louis Vuitton. So I was still trying to be very cute when I went in. By the time I got to Louis Vuitton, I was a stinky, sweaty, wet, hot, nasty mess. And I was like, oh my God, here I go, walking into Louis Vuitton, looking a hot ass mess like this. So I was like, um, yeah, I'm probably gonna need a shower by the time I get home. So yes, if that is a real thing that happens, if you if you see one of your sisters out in the in the public and she's smelling a little tart or a little off, don't embarrass her. It's probably perimet pause and just be like, girl, I got perimeter pause too.

SPEAKER_01 27:48

True that. But do you remember when we were working together um and you kept on smelling like onion? And you're like, what the f what's the stinking here? I don't I know I don't smell. I said, you smell me. I said, I don't know. She was I don't know why I keep smelling, but it stinks like onion. I can't take it anymore. And when you finally got home and you took off your bra, you reached like you had a garlic bagel, and that shit all fell into the bra and it was warm and it admitted to smell. So it wasn't perimetopause, but it was a perimagel.

SPEAKER_03 28:21

Greedy eating syndrome. Greedy eating syndrome. Just yes, I remember that very well. Yes. I was eating a garlic bagel and one of the little garlics that must have fallen on my bra, and all day I was like, what the f is that smell? Okay, that's a whole nother story for another time. Anyway. Sorry. So basically, so if you really think about it, it's almost like a second puberty. And and it was so crazy is that my my little 13-year-old daughter told me this. She's like, it's like puberty in reverse. It's like, you know, right? Like puberty and reverse. You're going through the same thing. Mood changes, your period stopping instead of starting. There's body odor, there's anxiety, there's all the things that go along.

SPEAKER_01 29:04

Extra hair growing, you know, when you start your puberty, you start getting hair. You know what's crazy is that you know how they show the lifestyle of uh the life cycle of a human where you start as a newborn and you're you're crawling into a walking, then you become a human, you know, a um adult. And as you start to decline, you go to a you know uh an aid, or then you're starting to crawl, and you and you just you kind of revert back to what you were. So that kind of really makes sense is a reverse uh a reverse uh reverse puberty. Yeah, it's like a reverse puberty, and it makes sense because we're now re-reverting back to we can't have children anymore, right? Yeah, so we're back to like the beginning again. Um exactly.

SPEAKER_03 29:50

Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, yeah. And so, and finally, one of the other uh symptoms that people don't ever tell you about is the anxiety. Do not let anyone tell you that that is made up, that it's make believe, that it doesn't happen. Anxiety is real, and over 40% of women report anxiety or mood changes during perimenopause. In fact, one of the the one of the catalysts for Jay and I starting this show was to talk about menopause and perimenopause, hence the name mood swings. Because that was some shit we could really tell you about. That was some shit we were really going through. So, yes, that is true. And here's the thing that's crazy to me, too. So many women don't understand perimenopause. They don't know about the symptoms, they don't know that anxiety is a major one for them. I was talking to my sister's friend, who's much older than me, who's been through in this longer than I have, and didn't even realize that's what was happening to her. She was going through massive anxiety. And she said that every time that she would get in a car and start driving, she would get this like crippling anxiety, and she couldn't understand why, what was happening to her. And it wasn't until a little later when she went to the doctor and kind of started spouting off different symptoms, symptoms that they told her, you are in perimenopause. Anxiety is so real in perimenopause. It's it's it just it makes me so sad that all these women are being told that they are need to be put on antidepressants because they're depressed, or that, you know, other things are happening. It's just stress and just life. And no, you're not anxious about anything. It's your hormones. It is hormones setting fires in your brain. That's what's happening. And you need that type of support, not someone telling you, oh, you're just anxious because you have to do the dishes and go to work and commute. No, no, bitch. I'm anxious because my hormones are playing Russian roulette right now with me.

SPEAKER_01 31:50

And and the female body is such a wondrous thing, you know, just like the human brain, our bodies conform and and contort to house a human being from conception to birth. You know what I'm saying? And you know, we bring it all the way up here. You know, our everyone has the same amount of intestines, but our intestines are up in our lungs while we're trying to carry these children, and then for some reason find a way to get them to come back to in place, and we're expected to bounce back to pre-baby weight, right? Yeah. Yeah. You don't realize the trauma that your body has just has gone through for almost 40 plus weeks. And then I don't know, times how many children you have. Or unfortunately, you're going through a uh stillborn or have abortion or anything like that, there's still trauma to the to the body, right? And then all that to have every month a painful and bloody cycle of shedding of your insides every time that that is it makes us feel embarrassed first off to do so, even though it is a blessing because that lets us know that we can give life, right? We can be a better. And then when you lose that ability, it's embarrassing again because we're like, are we still women? Could are we able still to be able to perform or the way we do? Why is my libido so low? Am I still attracted to my husband? Why do I have this lower pooch I can't get rid of? Why do I have a fucking Santa Claus goddang beard that I'm trying to fucking be you know braid back, all while still trying to maintain the same lifestyle as being a mother, a wife, a a spouse, uh, you know, a significant other, and a nurturer, but still trying to figure that out. And no one is there to help you figure that part out, but you got to do it on your own.

SPEAKER_03 33:44

Crazy. And and all of that that you just said, right, that's going on with your perimenopause symptoms. But on top of that, you're probably in this stage of life where scientists have just come out with this new study saying that people are unhappiest, the unhappiest they will be between the ages of 47 and 48 years old. Because if you're a woman, you're dealing with perimenopause, you're also caring for older, for aging parents. You probably even have a child that might be starting into high school and hormones and all the stuff that they have going on. You got a whole myriad of shit going on, and then you pop perimenopause right on top of that. It's just, it's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 34:23

And not only that, you could have children entering high school, you could have empty nester syndrome as well now. And that. And that. So I also have a friend in that stage too. Right? So then you're losing your identity. I'm no longer a mom, right? Am I now a mom because she's not there? Or how do I re-create myself or who was before a mom, right? Who was a lover and a friend and a partner to whomever before you became a mom. But it's hard to find that person because you've been so pulled away and changed. And but your specs have come back to that and you don't know how because you don't know your way back. Because all these symptoms are blocking you from being that same person 18, 20 years ago.

SPEAKER_03 35:02

I mean, when you say that, so for me. I don't even know if I want to get into that because it's super I could feel myself getting emotional to talk about it. But sometimes I look at old pictures of my mother from when she was like in her 20s, and I imagine the girl that she was. Because, you know, you forget when you see your mom as your mom, you think that's your mom that she's been a mom your entire life. You forget that your mother, like you, had dreams and admira and ambitions and you know, things that she wanted to do in her life. And, you know, I I look at these old pictures of my mom and I just try to piece together things that she told me about her youth, and I try to see her as that person. You forget that mothers they have relationships and all those things.

SPEAKER_01 35:45

Yeah.

unknown 35:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:47

So I went through the same thing. And again, as I said, our mothers went through parimenopause, didn't have us in any knowledge. We were young, we didn't understand. We had our own needs, and they still needed to continue to either be um uh a partner in in the finances and bringing home money for the household, keeping the household up, and still deal with either old older siblings that might have left and having guys in the house. And they still did it. Now, now thinking back, my mom was crazy AF. Now I know that if it was just her, she was crazy as F because she's still crazy as AAF. Um, and she's way past parameters my father. But she when she was going to death, she was crazy as F. And I get it. So speaking speaking of that, you know, yeah, spouses, how is it are they expected to? And it's it's unfair for us to just say, you should understand, because we don't even understand. But um, a lot of marriages have been affected by this particular system. And that's why it should be something that is at the forefront of finding out what's going on so that we can't, if we're we are so into two-parent homes and keeping a you know a household together, this is part of the treatment that we need to do is because a lot of the a lot of the households are breaking up because of these things, just because of the um inability to cope and the and the lack of knowledge on both parts.

SPEAKER_03 37:17

And I'm I'm so glad you brought that up. That brings me right into my segment about menopause rage, Harry Menopause Rage. It is a real thing. Again, mood swings the podcast, right? So, first, before I even get into this, I want to shout out all the men out there that are loving their significant others through this without questioning, without making them feel bad, without making them happy to apologize, but just really truly authentically understanding what they're going through. And if they don't understand, being willing to learn and then still choosing to be there and stay by their side. Shout out to all of them. I think both of our husbands can be included in that because this is a real thing. I have a family member to give me some advice. She was like, one of my friends tried this and this was helpful for them. And it said it basically she said it made her not want to kill her husband anymore because your husbands are right in the trenches going through this with you. I saw this video of a man and a woman. They're laying in bed. It's like a Sunday morning, she's reading, he's watching something, and all of a sudden she's like, Oh, I'm hot, I'm hot, I'm a hot flash. He gets up, he runs over there, and he pulls out the fan and he's putting it on her. She's like, Okay, all right, just hold it, just hold it. He's like, Okay, hold on. And they're all just frantic, but he's he's in there with her. She's sweating and trying to take stuff off, and he's holding a fan and trying to take things off of her, and he just like he gets it. And then he she's like, Okay, I'm good. Thank you. And he goes, sits back down, gets his paper back up, starts reading, doesn't say a word. You know what I mean? So that type of stuff. There's a lot of marriages that that sometimes meet their demise because the symptoms are too big to control, or the spouse is not can't understand them. I I don't know what the disconnect is, but this disconnect comes into this marriage, and if you're you have to be very careful. It can it can ruin a lot of things.

SPEAKER_01 39:19

Yeah, emotional, emotional damage. Because they did make a vow though at the beginning of their marriage through sickness and through health, right? And um sometimes, you know, women are again put in the place of being the nurturer. So no matter what, when you have a sick child and or sick spouse, you are that nurturer. You become sick, who nurtures you, right? So in the same aspect of this, because going through it for it's not a cold that lasts seven days. This is perimenopause that can last up to 10 years. And if your partner is not willing to, like you said, get in the trenches with you, 10 years is a lot of fucking time that can wear on a relationship. And again, that person may feel that this, and even though they know it's it, they you need to fix it. You are not the person I married. You are a total 180-degree person of what I've known, and I don't like it, it's uncomfortable, and I'm not gonna um continue to deal with it. And then the then the rage comes, they don't fuck you that motherfucker, and then they're the divorce, you know. So that's a sad part of it. But you know, we have really lucky couples who make it through, of course, obviously. Not saying that they all come to the demise, but there are a lot of couples that are able to make it through. And I've one, like I said, shout out to our hubbies.

SPEAKER_03 40:53

Yeah, um, I I literally thinking about this one time, I I heard him breathing, and the breathing just sounded aggressive. It just sounded like aggressive breathing. And I was like, what's your problem? He was like, nothing. And I'm like, no, you got an attitude. He's like, I can hear you. No, I don't. Um Yeah, I was like, why are you breathing so damn hard? He was like, I'm just trying to live. I'm just I'm just trying to take in the oxygen and inhale and exhale. I'm not doing anything. And so now but I'm like, he's like, I'm just I'm just trying to breathe. And he's like, he's like, I'm just trying to, I'm just trying to breathe. And and in that moment, I realized how absolutely crazy I was being because the man was just breathing. It fell out, it felt aggressive.

SPEAKER_01 41:42

But it was bizarre. So I would have jumped on his back too, like, you know what, daddy, you motherfucker, you need to see you having a seat. Shut your mouth. Right. You just shut your mouth when you're breathing.

SPEAKER_03 41:52

You know what I'm saying? That's right. So at that moment, he was just like, he was like, you know, putting his hands up, like, I'm sorry. So now that's kind of been like our universal thing. So, because in that moment we realized that it was just ridiculous. So now when when I'm a little sharp or he's a little sharp, we're all like, okay, hands up, don't shoot. I'm sorry. And then we and then we know that that's our symbol, like, okay, yeah, maybe I did go a little sideways on that.

SPEAKER_01 42:17

Yeah, yeah. So it's little things that make a big difference, right? Because if you didn't do that and it would continue to get upsetting, and he continued for some reason being rude and wanting to breathe, it would have been that relationship. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03 42:32

Tell me how to do air. I mean, because this it is a real thing. It's just that 70% of women report some sort of mood change during perimenopause. And I mean, like a huge change. Like one minute you're crying at a dog food commercial, the next minute you're in the Costco parking lot trying to fight a bitch. And listen, I can tell you from experience. That's how that shit goes, right?

SPEAKER_01 42:59

I I almost got in my car, drove over, and apologized. I was like, I don't know what bitch. Um, but yeah, it it it's a thing. It's a thing for sure. I um, you know, I just can't, I I want one good rager though. I just want one good down home rager. You know what I'm saying? Ain't no fun in my home. We can't have none. Let's do it together and fucking burn the fucking city down. Let's do that shit.

SPEAKER_03 43:26

I feel like very menopause women should have somewhere where they can go and just purge the fuck out because we gotta get it out. We gotta get it out some kind of way.

SPEAKER_01 43:34

Like the break rooms or like the axe places and stuff like that. Yeah.

unknown 43:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:39

That's right. I think, yeah, I think we're gonna we're gonna do that. We're gonna create our own one and we're gonna say, we're gonna take a little a menopause. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In that pause, you're gonna be able to get all your anger out. Now I agree. I agree. Yeah, it only helped that one time, but we can do a lifetime membership in Know and then they can come anytime they want to unlimited visits. You can get like a monthly pass.

SPEAKER_03 44:04

So you can get as unlimited as you want for the full month. You can go in there and fuck shit up. And it's gonna be at 62 degrees at all point because when you get that hot flash and it feels like you just swallowed the sun, when it feels like it's a fall of sunshine, but not like happy, fun, yeah, it's sunshine, yeah. Not that type of sun. It feels like Satan's pitch fork is stuck in your throat. It feels like Satan himself is like licking the side of your face. Uh-huh. Yeah. That's your hot flash. You're gonna need a 62-degree room.

unknown 44:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 44:41

That's hot. And the hot flash always comes at the most inopportune time. So when I'm at work and I need to be professional in front of people, all this, all this top lip just which just bees a sweat, just everywhere. Remember the back, the tripod, all down the creek, the middle spine of my back is a wet, sweaty mess. When you're having sex, hot clash.

SPEAKER_02 45:08

Why? Why? Yeah, that's dumbed.

SPEAKER_03 45:11

Get the fuck off me. And it's and it's literally like, get it off.

SPEAKER_01 45:16

No, it's really like, I'm about to get the fuck out of it, God. Hey, hey, my dad, if you did that, at least you wouldn't have a moisture problem.

SPEAKER_03 45:25

Can we talk about that? Yeah, that's in the wrong area. Wrong area. Sorry, my bad.

SPEAKER_01 45:31

But uh what I will talk about is the actual there there is some hope. Like I said, to treat the symptoms, there is some hope. We have things like estrogen and hormone therapy and things like that, which I have not uh been on any of them. I'm getting ready to start my whole process, and I'm super excited because the day I can actually sleep through the night from 10 to 6 in the morning, it is gonna be, I bet you anything that's right there is gonna clear the brain fog, it's gonna clear all the rage. Because when you don't get a good night's sleep, that's where your attitude already starts.

SPEAKER_03 46:08

Yeah. Already. And you know, sleep hygiene is so important. It's also, you know, poor sleep hygiene has been linked to dementia and other cognitive impairment issues. So sleep hygiene is very, very, very important. We told you about all the doom and gloom, but let me tell you about the hope. Like I was saying earlier, research and medical funding for things like women's health issues beyond reproduction is greatly underfunded, right? And it in fact, it's only about 4% of medical research goes towards women's health issues. But during so, they were able to come up with HRT, which is hormone replacement therapy. Now, I know that this is scary for a lot of women, and particularly black women, because we know that historically the medical field has not always been truthful with us. So I wanna, I wanna just kind of demystify some of the uh disinformation that's out there about hormone replacement therapy. Now, my OBG lion, who's been my OBG Lion since I was 23 years old, um, when this all happened and she told me I had perimenopause, I was almost in disbelief because I was like, that's for old people. Like, I literally had on Hello Kitty socks when she told me about it. So I was like, I know you talk to somebody else because I'm useful as fuck. Like, that's not me, right? Right. But she also told me at that time there's things you can do. You can try hormone replacement therapy. It immediately scared me because I remember back in like the early 90s, maybe late 80s, you would hear about how hormone replacement therapy was related to breast cancer. And all these women were getting breast cancer and they were dying based on these synthetic hormones that they were taking to replace their estrogen.

SPEAKER_01 47:54

Now that again, that was back in the 80s, right? So that was Monty Pars.

SPEAKER_03 48:00

And thank you, and thank you to Miss Henrietta Lax because of her. We now know more about hormone replacement therapy and how it would work in our bodies if we use we stopped using synthetic chemo hormones and started using bioidentical hormones. Bioidentical hormones are exactly what it says bio-identical, identical. So estrogen and progesterone cannot be created outside of the female body. It it just can't. They can't create it in a lab, but they can get very close with using bioidentical hormones. These come in the form of creams, like a vaginal cream. It comes in the form of a patch. Um, I've heard Oprah talk about something about like a click. So I don't I don't know if she's taking like a pen that she's shooting. I don't know about that.

SPEAKER_01 48:44

Oh but I thought you said clit.

SPEAKER_03 48:46

I'm like, yes, we all have one, hopefully. A click. Oh my god. Speaking, speaking of clits, you didn't tell them on the one part. Should we scare the hell out of them like that?

SPEAKER_01 49:00

Oh shit. Oh god. That can happen during any time, right? You just you just when I said that everybody has one until a certain time. And then again they don't suck back into your body, or you just look down there one day and go, where the fuck is it?

SPEAKER_03 49:17

So that's that's one more strange uh uh symptom that we should have talked about that during perimenopause or during menopause, your labial begins to atrophy. It can. It can begin to atrophy. And if it does, it kind of gets reabsorbed into the body and it goes away.

SPEAKER_01 49:39

As long as the muscle is continue to be worked, it should be fine. I can lift a bar of that motherfucker. You know what I'm saying? My man's girl something like that.

SPEAKER_03 49:53

Right now, I'm doing it right now. For other women, it can pop it could possibly go away. And so there is the cream, there's a so also a lot of women experience like painful uh sex. It hurts upon injury, things like that. So you can use this HRT cream that you put in every three days or so. I have on very good source that tells me that use that creams, it says she's been rejuvenated back to like she was 17 years old using that cream. Nice. Do with that what you will, but that's what I've been told.

SPEAKER_01 50:25

So can you uh because that's already a hormone or a bioidentical hormone, you can't double up on a patch or a pill or anything that, right? Because or is it a can you?

SPEAKER_03 50:37

I wouldn't think so. I wouldn't think so. So for me personally, I'm taking estrogen and I'm taking progesterone hormone replacement therapy. So I take my estrogen in the form of a patch that I put in a place somewhere in my body, and I take a pill for progesterone every single night. The progesterone, when they're they work in concert together, they begin to thicken up the lining of after my doctor first told me about the hormone replacement therapy, I was like, eh, I'm not. We I did some research. I found out that it's perfectly safe now, that there's been so much new testing, they're using bioidenticals. And my doctor also tried to convince me, also told me that she's on hormone replacement therapy and has been for years and years, and that she feels great. And I will say this there is there's only a certain window of opportunity. If you go over the age of 60, you you probably wouldn't be eligible anymore to get on HRT. So it has to be before age 60 or within 10 years of menopause onset. So one of the whatever comes first, right? So you want to make sure you do that. You you do your research for what works for you. Now, I'm going to say this. When I first got onto hormone replacement therapy, yeah, I it wasn't like instantaneously. Like I said, I've heard Oprah talk about, she says, when I had those first three clicks of estrogen, I was like, oh, you know, Oprah, she says that. That wasn't my experience at all. I'm gonna give it to you 100% real. That was not my experience. I was on HRT for probably a good 90 days before I really kind of seen the benefits of it. So much so that, you know, I'm a very, I yeah, I'm an instant gratification person. And by like the second month, I was like, this is not doing anything. I don't want to do it anymore. And I told my doctor she was like, please just stick with it. I promise you it's worth it. Just stick with it. And I trust my doctor. Like I said, I've had her since I was 23. So I stuck with it. And right around that 90-day mark, I remember waking up and being like, I don't feel like shit. I actually have a libido. I actually want to, you know, be intimate with my husband. I, you know, I feel so much better. I'm and so then, and then from there, it just gradually got better and better and better. And then I was like, I'm back to me again. I feel like me again, but me, like 10 years ago, right? Wow. The 10 year ago, me. Yeah, the young lady, me. That's that's how I began feeling again. And it was a good-so I started feeling better. The brain fog started lifting the uh the joint pain. I my hip used to hurt so bad. I felt like an old lady, which would embarrass me. I would get up out of a seat and I'd be like, oh, oh, oh. All that stuff started lifting.

SPEAKER_01 53:21

Yeah, you know, I have that frozen shoulder, and I can't wait to be on there to fix that.

SPEAKER_03 53:26

The frozen shoulder, all of that. Remember, I was telling you about this one mysterious uh symptom I had that I wanted to wait to tell you guys about. And this is how I knew I was in perimenopause. Um, I was having really, really bad heart palpitations. So much so that I went to my primary care physician, who also I've been with since I was 23 years old. And I and I loved him as well. And he doesn't know anything about perimenopause, and he's a whole physician. And he said, you know, let's put you on a halter monitor. I want to monitor you for seven days and just see what's going on. He put me on a halter monitor, nothing abnormal. And I remember vividly because I was in graduate school at the time and I had to get up and give a presentation, and I was embarrassed because I had the wires from the halter monitor that I was trying to stuck in stuff in my pocket so no one could see it. And so when I went to my OBGYN, fast forward about two years later, no, probably about four years later, and I was telling her about all these things, and she says, Have you ever been having heart palpitations? And I was like, Yeah, I thought I was having a heart attack that my heart was failing. And she told me that that was a symptom. So I say all that to say, once I got on to hormone replacement therapy, no more heart palpitations. Wow. So it worked, it worked very, very well for me. And so, you know, also, I tried some natural stuff first prior to this. I have a cousin-in-law who told me about trying evening primrose, evening primrose oil tablets. I took those, they would make me nauseous. I didn't feel like they were doing anything. I stopped those. I was doing all types of holistic things. Nothing really worked until I got on this and I stayed on it for a good 90 days.

SPEAKER_01 55:10

And the key is consistency, right?

SPEAKER_03 55:12

Like you can't just have the patch on it. The key is consistency. Exactly. Exactly. You have to be very diligent about it. A patch that I'm on, I change it every two days. So I have a timer set on my phone. Every two days it's time for a new patch. I take progesterone progesterone every night, have a timer on my phone, 10:30 in the evening, take progesterone. Now, what I will say about the progesterone, it has a calming sedative effect to it, and they tell you to take it at night. It that's what helps you sleep and brings you calm, gets that rage out of you, but it also works in conjunction with the estrogen to help form the the walls of your uterus. So I've been taking this progesterone and I've been sleeping like I'm 25 years old. There's no more sleepless nights, none of that. I sleep and Jay, you know, because you're so very all everyone is jealous of my sleep now because I sleep so well. No, I'm sleep. I'm asleep all night, all night long. And you just and it has a calm, it has a very calming effect. You just feel better. You wake up in the morning and you feel better. That anxiety is gone, that angst is gone, you just feel better. So now I will say this. Uh at some point, I was on the very lowest dosage of progesterone. And I stayed on that dose for probably about almost a year. And on it didn't eventually I just woke up. I couldn't sleep anymore. And I'm like, what is happening? I woke up and I started feeling a little bit of hot flashes again. A little bit of the brain fog came back. Not in the not in the big way like it was, but I was feeling it creep back. And I immediately freaked out, called my doctor, went in and saw her. What's going on? She said, We're gonna go up to 200. We're just gonna go up. I put you on the lowest dose. We're just gonna take you one dose up and we're gonna try it. She put me on 200. Now, I stayed on 200 probably about a good four months, and then I started having issues where I was bleeding all the time, every day, nonstop, nonstop, nonstop. That's not fun. So I'm telling you these stories to tell you if you try it and something goes awry, please don't give up. Don't just say it didn't work for me. Yeah. Sometimes it takes a little bit of doctoring to get it to work for you. It's not a one size fits all. You might need a little tailoring for you. So I went back to my doctor. She says, okay. And here's the thing, remember, I wasn't having any periods. I was going eight, nine, ten months, not having periods. I wasn't having any periods from not having a period to having a period for a good three weeks, right? So I go back to my doctor. She's like, okay, we're gonna try something else with your progesterone. We're gonna keep you on the 200, but instead of you taking it every day, we're gonna have you take it for the first 12 days out of the month. And then after that, we're gonna have you go off. We're gonna have you doing that. So that's the cycle that I'm on now. And now I'm seeing some, like, okay, this is starting to work for me. This is maybe this is where I need to be. I just lots to remember them. Well, I because I set a timer in my phone, I set a timer on my Alexa, so I'm on it. You just have to set a timer to help you remember. And I did it in my my doctor told me this. She says, you do it on the first of the month, so it's easier for you to remember. So just remember, one through 12, you're not gonna take them. After that, 13th through the 30th or the 31st, you're on them. So it's easy for me to remember that way.

SPEAKER_01 58:31

You know what it'd be kind of cool is if they did it like birth control pills and the rest of the time are just placebo, so you're constantly still taking it. So you don't have to worry about it. Yeah. Well, I'm so excited that I start my journey, and I will definitely report back once I get my results back from my lab work, so I could hopefully start getting onto stuff because I'm I'm I'm already reaching the area where I can't take it anymore. So I gotta be honest. You're not 60, Jay.

SPEAKER_03 58:58

You're not even nearly halfway to 60. So what the hell? But yes. But don't wait. The sooner you do it, the sooner you're gonna start feeling better. The sooner you will start, the sooner you're gonna thank yourself. You're you're gonna be pissed and go, why didn't I do this earlier? Why didn't I do this earlier? And they and you still you still go in for your mammograms, you still go in for your uh your gyneological visit, so that you're still making sure that nothing is, you know, hurting you or getting in the way or anything like that. But you want to make sure that you feel better. Because what the best thing that's gonna happen to you is that you're going to reach therapeutic levels. That's what's gonna happen. Your estrogen is gonna come back in a way, your your progesterone is gonna come back in a way, where it's therapeutic, and then you're gonna go back to feeling like your old self for sure.

SPEAKER_01 59:44

I cannot wait. Because then you also, because you're feeling good about yourself, I can't wait for that. But that was some good information.

SPEAKER_03 59:55

Yeah, um, absolutely. Thank you. Thank you for listening. I hope that this helps somebody that's out there. And if you want to learn more about it, you can go to the Minipause Society. And I'll there's a whole society where you can get all types of information. You can get scholarly references. If you want something that's factual and based in science and peer-reviewed studies, you can read, you can also go to the Journal of Medicine as well as the Mayo Clinic. Those are all really good resources for any type of menopause information.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:26

And please know that this is not just a one and done. Because we are mood swings, this is going to be a con a topic that will continue to be addressed on our uh show. And again, if you have any things that you want to bring to our attention, please email us at mood at mood swingspodcast.com.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:47

Thank you. Thank you. Okay, so now let's get to our viewer of the we. So this person is getting inducted into our swing sets. Yes. This is someone that we appreciate that is always supporting the show. They're commenting on our on our YouTube, they're commenting on our Instagram, they're following and sending out stuff about mood swings all the time. So we want to say thank you and honor you by making you a member of our swing set and our uh fan of the week. And that goes to baby steffins for Goth Play.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:26

Yes, thank you, baby stuffins, baby, baby puffins, baby puffins, baby puffins.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:40

Sounds stupid, but um, I do love the fact that baby puffins actually makes funny comments on our YouTube pages. So, and that's the only reason why I'm saying that we have to be joking on here. Um, yes, thank you so much, baby puffins score golf play. You are our family. Woo! Welcome to the family.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:02

Welcome to the swing set.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:06

Oh, all right, Jay. Well, this has been a good show, right? It has been, for sure. So again, I I look forward to more of those because again, I'll be bringing up my updates. You continue to give your updates, and I hope we can start sharing more stories too with our listeners and sharing stories from our listeners. So, um, and then we're gonna also just let you guys know, we're starting a segment called Fix Your Crown. And so if you are someone who wants to share a shout out to one of your women that you appreciate and you want to shed some light and fix her crown, please give that shout out to us again at mood at mood swingpodcast.com. And we'll make sure to fix the crown on our show. I have a little bit more left, so I guess I can still cheers with you. So I love you today. I love you guys.