From PTSD To Purpose: Mompreneurship, Burnout, and Holistic Living

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What if success looks less like metrics and more like obedience? We mark a year on the mic by leaning into a conversation about calling, healing, and building a life that actually fits the season you’re in. Our guest, entrepreneur and veteran Kat Pons, brings the candor of military service, the tenderness of motherhood, and the focus of a mission-led business to explore how faith shapes real-world decisions—what to cut, what to keep, and how to stay consistent without losing what matters.

We trace her roots from New York to Puerto Rico and Florida, where grandparents modeled enterprise and everyday herbal wisdom. That early training meets a modern wellness practice: Restoration From Within, a coaching and clean body-care brand that treats health as stewardship. Kat shares why skin is a truth-teller, how hibiscus tinctures and wild oregano extracts support holistic routines, and why Kingdom principles—not trends—anchor her work. She also opens up about PTSD, naming the small ways trauma shows up and how inviting the Holy Spirit into therapy can produce breakthrough after breakthrough.

The story widens into a bold vision: Life Support Centers that partner with local organizations to

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Chapters

• 1:04 Reflecting on Growth and Obedience
• 10:13 Journey From Veteran to Mompreneur
• 20:27 Balancing Life, Missions, and PTSD
• 34:27 Restoring Health Holistically
• 50:55 Recognizing Boundaries and Valuing Others
• 55:04 Maintaining Professional Boundaries and Respect

Transcript

SPEAKER_05: 0:20

Thanks again for this episode one on one with Mr. You and your inspiration statement. I'm really excited about today's episode. Let's get to another compelling story with all of you that I will go to tomorrow. Let's not waste another minute. Call me Mr. You, the podcast. We thank you once again for making us a part of your morning, your day, and your week with your weekly mirror check before you go change the world. We are here one-on-one with another one session about time together, one-on-one discussion with a good friend of mine, entrepreneur, mother, business person. Thank you, Vit Barry, all that stuff. Cap Hons is in that house. Sister, good morning. Well, afternoon now, I guess. How you doing?

SPEAKER_00: 1:36

Yeah, hello, hello, hello. And thank you so much for the opportunity to come here and chop it up with you today on this one-on-one podcast. But before we continue, we gotta give you a shout out, my brother.

SPEAKER_01: 1:48

One year, one year on the podcast. Come on, y'all.

SPEAKER_05: 1:54

All the hearts and I ain't got no cool music. I don't have no confetti, none fireworks, none of that.

SPEAKER_01: 2:01

I'm my own. You did y'all hear? Did you hear the old school uh dance hall fur furm? That's that's my horns right there. We good, we good, man. So congratulations.

SPEAKER_00: 2:14

Those catching watching live, put on them horns up there and congratulate Mr. You.

SPEAKER_05: 2:20

Yes, congratulate the introvert in me didn't want no part of this from the start. But God is doing something in this. I can see it through the the teachings and even through the stuff we do with sports. God is doing something in this, and that's that that that kind of messes with the religious mindset of people. Absolutely, they can't see that. Like, what's sports?

SPEAKER_01: 2:41

We're disruptors, that's what you're here for. That's what he called you in this section to disrupt the the status quo. It's it's kingdom counter culture, and you're doing an amazing job. I know, I know we're here to interview me, but I got a question for you. I got a question for you. So, how do you question for me?

SPEAKER_05: 2:58

You interview me, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 2:59

How do you okay?

SPEAKER_05: 3:02

I'll do my best answer.

SPEAKER_00: 3:03

Okay, all right. How do you feel? Um, uh, we you shared with me before we went live that you were, you know, going through the old shows and and reminiscing. So now that you look have had like a quick look back of the past year, um, how do you feel about this past year?

SPEAKER_05: 3:25

This this could be emotional here, but it's awesome because most of the times, and I I say this a lot, even in the teachings, that uh some of our biggest challenges right behind those are our biggest breakthroughs. And the show was was was formed at one of the worst times, not only in my life personally, but even in uh in our country's uh timeline. One of the worst times in our country's history in 2020. That's when this was this was formed. So I was in a really low moment. I probably shouldn't that shouldn't happen. We got so many people around us that that love us and pray love on us and pray for us, but it was one of the lowest moments ever. And I was like giving I think about giving up on a whole bunch of stuff and a whole bunch of people. And uh this vision came out of that. Uh uh some fasting and prayers, the vision came out of that. And like I said, introvert didn't want no part of none of that. Have my voice on where people can hear it as much as they want. My voice, but I don't think so. I don't like hear my single voice after I sung something. I don't want to hear no recording of me singing. I don't want to hear it. That's a me thing, and you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just a me thing, like uh you know, but just came out of that. So going back and looking at those years, well, over a year, almost a year now, of uh it's been about 12 months of uh going back and seeing episodes and what I was teaching and showing like wow, I was receiving, I was learning learning, I was growing. And I I heard it uh looking at the old episodes, I'm like, oh wow, and the audio, the audio uh podcast, those man, those crushed me, man. Forget the YouTube video, those that's good, but uh the audio side on the Apple Podcast side and stuff, it was it's deep, man. Like where's all this stuff coming from? I I'm I'm amazed by uh looking at my own mouth teaching people for 10 seconds. So I was this is uh this is a big move right here for me to even be doing this. I don't know what folk think. This is a big thing for me to do this. It's not uh I ain't trying to get famous. I won't be internet famous. I don't care about it. I ain't looking at my analytics. I I'm I'm not worried about it. I'm like, this is just this is a God. This meeting right here, it's an opportunity to discuss this. Yeah, this is a God here. So thank you for coming on and doing this with us.

SPEAKER_00: 5:43

I mean, yeah, well, I mean, welcome. Yeah, I suit. And and I just wanted to add to what you said, like what I hear is a lot of uh obedience because you said you, you know, there was a lot of maturity and a lot of growth, and a lot of things that um hindsight now looking back, you're like, oh, there I was growing, you know, like this is the blessing and the breakthrough that came out of um out of what I consider, you know, one of the the lowest moments in my life. And that's one of the things that I have learned um from an amazing friend of mine. Uh she's uh she she's she's an amazing coach as well. Uh Levondalyn uh saying, kid, shout out to you. I love you to life. And what one of the lessons that she taught me when she was my life coach in a season of my life, she was like, What's the blessing out of this situation? And I was going through one of the worst moments of my life, and I got offended with her. I was like, What do you mean what's the blessing out of this? I'm going through right now, man. What are you talking about? You know, but that that shifted my perspective, you know, and and that's what I heard when you were talking, like the blessings that, you know, even though um you you wanted to give up, this isn't this wasn't what you wanted to do, but you still pressed on. And out of that obedience, and one of the things that God has been dealing with me in this season is like obedience in the middle of it, you know, it is the word die, right? I'm not gonna get dark on you, I'm not, but you know, I was like, die, God, like what's like ready.

SPEAKER_02: 7:15

I got my feelings like ready for the case.

SPEAKER_00: 7:18

Exactly, right? And so, and it was like, it's like you in this season in this past 12 months, you've had to die to self and then grow into what God has um has prospered you in, and this is what success looks like. It's not the status quo, it's not the analytics, but this is what success looks like in this season for your life. And this is just the the um, it's not even the pinnacle. This is just we just scratching the surface of what's to come because when when the times that are supposed to come, and we know as kingdom believers that's supposed to come, people are gonna get online and they're gonna be desperate to hear a word, they're gonna be desperate to just even hear sports, and in the midst of that, you know, you throw in the good news and they don't even know they got hit with the good news, you know what I'm saying? So I thank you for your obedience, you know. Some people I tell people, you know, that cliche when they say, Yeah, some people still in the couch trying to figure it out. You you got off the couch and you did something about it, you know. So happy anniversary. I decree and declare Genesis 26 and 12, because all the seeds that you have sown in this season, may they return to you this year, and most importantly, may God amplify your voice for his glory. So, congratulations, fam.

SPEAKER_05: 8:41

Come on, I ain't crying on my own show. I'm saying that right now. I'm crying on my other show, but not on this one here. But some love is coming through for you already. 180 production says, Go Cap Ponds. Got the trophy. Hey fam, how you doing? One of the best, I hope. Yes, he says, Hey Capond, get some love coming in. I love this. That's so awesome. Let's jump into some chit chat. So we happen to be from New York. Uh, I think you left before I did, or or I left before you. I'm not quite sure about that one, but share a little bit about your upbringing uh during those times up in up in uh up in the northeast. Okay, well how to come up.

SPEAKER_00: 9:20

Okay, so um, to be honest with you, uh I when I was younger, I moved around a lot. So, yes, I was born in New York City and I did spend some time there. However, um my mom and I, we moved around a lot. It wasn't, I didn't really get uh a stability in my house in my in my life until my mom uh she she gave me to my grandparents on my father's side to raise me. That's when I I had more stability. But yes, I've I've stomped some grounds in the New York City area. Um it's it's you know, it's like yeah, it's it's something that if you're from there, it just it's in your blood. You know, whether you live there for a long time or a short period of time, it's still in your blood. So um, so yes, so my grandparents, um, I think I was I was off and on with my grandparents, and then I think around seven or eight years old, I don't my memory, uh I don't know the exact time frame. Yeah, she the um my mom, she was like, okay, I want you to full-time take care of her. And so uh they did. And so I lived in Puerto Rico for some time, and then um then Florida became my home, and then I traveled the military after that, you know. So I was all up and down the east coast with my mom, and then we lived in Puerto Rico for some time, and then um my I lived with my grandparents in Puerto Rico, then I I did uh I lived in Florida and then I joined the military, and so then I traveled even you know overseas as well. So everywhere, yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 10:59

We'll come back to that in a little bit, but yeah, tell the story because and people who are watching this or listening to this, they may uh it might be news to them, even though I've been saying it for a while. When you say my name, I'm I'm I'm I'm strict about that because it has a certain meaning. Okay, if you say my name differently, you change the meaning. My name is pronounced Youssef. If you if you say Yusuf, that means translated in Hebrew Aramaic as God shall increase. If you say Yusuf or Yusuf, it changes it and it takes God out. And all it means is all it means is increase. So that's a battle I fought for a long time. Once I realize the meaning of it, okay. I can't say everybody I meet all the time. It's it's too it's too much work.

SPEAKER_04: 11:48

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 11:50

Talk to them about the meaning of your name and yes, with how you pronounce it and where did it come from? I'd love to hear that.

SPEAKER_00: 11:56

Yes, okay, so um my mom named me catiria. Uh it's uh teresa pons. Well, you know, Pons is because I'm married, but Catiria Teresa is Teresa's my middle name. So catiria it's uh derivative in English for Catherine, and it means uh and it means yeah, and it means pure. And so Catiria was a distinctive name that was um not really heard of, but my mom heard it from uh famous uh she was uh a vedette singer, Edish Chacon.

SPEAKER_05: 12:34

My people in Puerto Rico know who that is, yeah, it seems because you know I was thinking different things back then because I was a young kid.

SPEAKER_00: 12:44

Yeah, exactly. And so um it was different for me, but okay, yeah, and so um so Edish Chacon had a daughter, and my and she she was like she said her name, and my mom fell in love with the name, so she gave me that name. But lo and behold, God had other intentions. So it you know, Catherine or the in English or Kathy means uh pure, and so and then Teresa, it's my grandmother, her mom's name. So she gave me her mom's name uh in as a middle name, but it means harvester, so it means harvester. So yes.

SPEAKER_05: 13:20

Oh, I like that. Okay, okay, I like that. I can't. I'm still I'm still I'm still adjusting, even though I've been down here since 96. I'm still adjusting. I can't, I haven't become the southerner that all the others around me have become. I still haven't gotten I don't know if it's ever gonna happen, but I've been getting involved with a lot of farming and doing stuff like that. A big part of our life, farming in a course on small on a smaller level. Absolutely. But are you doing anything like that? So you move move down here. What kind of things have you adopted as a a northerner coming down here to the south? What what kind of uh have you adopted any of the uh of the practices?

SPEAKER_00: 13:59

Um uh I do say y'all a lot, you know. I do say that.

SPEAKER_03: 14:04

They got you. They got you.

SPEAKER_00: 14:07

I say that, and then um I do say big man, I I do say that. Um uh when uh somebody's really upset, they uh, you know, I've learned I learned from the locals, even the Geechee's, oh you big man, you big mad. I was like, Oh, you big man, huh? You know, so yeah, it's big man. And then um, and then what else? Which other one? Uh which one is it? I can't remember. So big man, oh, and box you, box you in your mouth. I box you, which is like, you know, like fighting. So, you know, I'll be messing with my kids sometimes, you know, be like, I box you, you know, and and so I I do mess, I do mess around and say those words um that I've learned from my, you know, my local friends that you know they be knowing they stuff and I love them to life. Um, so uh, well, culturally, um, my grandparents were the ones that showed that introduced me to my passion to like gardening or harvesting or plants. Because even when we moved from Puerto Rico to um to Florida, my grandfather just started growing plants. To this day, we have avocado plants in the back of the house. Um, he germinated an orange with a grapefruit and made um and made his own type of fruit. He knew how to do all that stuff. And so, you know, he yeah, he nourished the the land. We had chickens one time, but you know, I guess somebody got tired of the rooster. Somebody got tired of the rooster in the neighborhood and the rooster disappeared because you know, them they they be, you know, they be uh uh crow crowing at five in the morning. So back in those days, I was just coming from the club and the thing was crowing, and I'm like, shut up, you're gonna tell on me. And you know, but the neighbors just hated it. And so, but my passion really came from there, the love of the plants. Like, you know, like I would come home from school, or I would say, Oh mom, something's going on with my ear. My grandmother'll be like, What you got going on? She'll go to the back of the yard and you know, she'll concoct something and then she'll, you know, put it in my in my ear. Yeah, there's I can't remember the name of the leaf, but I really what the sad part is is that I saw it, I witnessed it, but I didn't really appreciate it to take like really true notes about it. And that's one of, you know, if if I have any regrets, that's the only regret that I have. Um, but one time um I I had pink eye or something, and so, and then she went, and there's a leaf that when you squeeze it, it squeezes like a white milky content, but it heals pink eye. And so, you know, so I knew like if anything was wrong with me, I knew to hit up my grandmother because she was gonna do something. And to this day, I still use her expectorant, like I make her expectorant. I have the recipe um TikTok. Yeah, so it's it's just three ingredients aloe vera, honey, and um lemon. But it's it it like it just if you have like a heavy congestion in your chest, you date that bad boy is gone. So, yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_05: 17:20

I don't think we got enough time to get into all of that.

SPEAKER_00: 17:22

This is this is this is good.

SPEAKER_05: 17:25

Yes. I'm gonna try to come back to this. I'm gonna do my best. A lot I want to ask you about, so let's see if I can try to get back to it. Hopefully, we can. But describe journey for me as brief as you can from being a veteran to a monpreneur.

SPEAKER_00: 17:40

What happened between what happened between? Oh, like why the decision?

SPEAKER_05: 17:45

How'd you get from veteran to ma entrepreneur? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 17:48

Okay, um, so I I served my country for about 10 exact, you know, about 10 years. Um, I was a security forces member, and I also had the opportunity to go outside my career field and be uh an instructor. I taught supervisors, first-time supervisors, leadership, communications, and military science skills. And so um it was a great experience, but it was time for me to go. I had a dream, and that dream shifted everything, and I had to throw the deuces. And so entrepreneurship was already in my blood because um going back to my grandparents, they um they they've always were entrepreneurs. Like my grandmother, she um she went to school to be a hairstylist, and then after that, you know, um her and my father, they always had that hustle in them, you know, to make money. Even though if they had a job, they always had a you know, side job. My grandparents to make a uh, you know, to have a job. Like my grandfather, when we moved from Puerto Rico to Florida, he worked at uh the Marriott as a sous chef, which was a hard job to get, but he got it. Yeah, he got as a Sioux chef, but he also had a hot dog stand that he used to work down in OBT. And if you know anything about OBT in Florida, is it used to be the hot spot? So he used to have a hot dog stand. Um, they had a nursing home for over 20 years. Um, before that, they used to have a uh uh uh a restaurant slash club in Puerto Rico. So, you know, it's been in there, it's entrepreneurship has been there, so it was nothing new to me, you know. So um when I when I got out and um and uh I went through my own uh restoration from within wellness journey, uh I was just like, okay, well, you know, I this was my purpose, and this is my purpose in this season is to, you know, um help busy moms and mompreneurs restore from within, spiritually, physically, and um, and emotionally, so that they can return back to their original plan for you know for God's life that God has created them for to be and to flourish in all areas of their lives. Because, you know, motherhood and being a monpreneur can be tough to try to you know balance it out, but not with me, not with the coaching I'm saying. What I do is is that I partner with the Holy Spirit and and the Holy Spirit and I join forces and we teach them how to cling on God, how to put God in the center of it all and do life with Him in every area, not just on Sundays.

SPEAKER_05: 20:27

I love that. We hear about all the time how how busy we are. I even got a couple of podcast episodes where I'm kind of sarcastic. Somebody says, I'm busy, I'm busy, it's why this didn't get done. I'm like, okay. Scroll down a little deeper and find out, find out why you're so busy. But you definitely are busy being a mom and a business owner, among other things. Yes, how are you balancing all these things and staying consistent without sacrificing the important stuff in life? How, if you can answer that for me in a nutshell, how would how are you doing that? I consistently have to all busy.

SPEAKER_00: 20:58

So, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I consistently have to go back to the to to the source and to the drawing board. Thanks, Nikki. Um, so when I say to the source, I mean to God. I gotta constantly go back to God because um uh everything that I'm busy doing in this season in my life is really um because uh well or productive in my life right now, is because God has called me to do that. So when I go back to the source to him, I'm I'm always, you know, okay, what do I need? I bring, I bring my life to him and I say, okay, what do I need to cut off? What do I need to add? What do I need to um delegate, or what do I need to take away? And then once I do that, then my framework is it's um it's when I do that, my framework supports that season in my life because we're in different seasons, so that's why I say I always try to I always try to stay plugged into the source and also be mindful of the framework that I have so it can support the season that I'm in, and I can show up in every area of my life that he's called me to be in.

SPEAKER_02: 22:06

Stay with us, we'll be right back.

SPEAKER_05: 22:09

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SPEAKER_00: 23:20

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so um uh I do feel a call to uh to missions um or to you know share the good news, you know, globally. I do feel that um there is uh something that is on my heart and it's to develop life support centers across the nation and the globe. And so uh so that is more to serve what to serve the overlooked and and the um and the underserved spiritually and physically, so that they can be equipped to be what God created them to be with not just you know spiritual tools, but also the the the practical side of things. You know, if they need counseling, there's a there's an area for counseling. If they need to um support with uh with food, they have a food uh you know, food entry or food center, but it's not just me showing up and oh, oh, I'm planting this because I want this to. This is something that I envision into partnering with the local um communities and organizations that have already been doing this, that got skin in the game, and so that I could join forces with them to empower them with um resources or finances or whatever it is needed so that we can unify and uplift the community, empower it to the capability that God created that community to be individually and collectively.

SPEAKER_05: 24:49

Okay, now I love this, and we did talk a little bit too about you know the impact of serving in the military and as first responders and that kind of stuff. We do take it for granted. A lot of us who are not doing it, we do take it for granted the experiences that they have and what they feel. You want to talk a little bit about the about the impacts of PTSD? Talk to me about that a little bit. We I want to hear that I look to bring value to a lot of I have plenty of friends that watch this show, supported about all of our shows, the sports, the wrestling, the whole deal. And a lot of them deal with that, and they weren't in the military. So I'd love to hear you know the impacts of that from your vantage point and share that wisdom with us if you can.

SPEAKER_00: 25:28

Okay, all right. So um there's two aspects of it, but I'm gonna answer the military first. But there's another aspect of PTSD that I would like to address as well. Um, so uh well PTSD was heightened when I joined the military because I already was um challenged with PTSD. So, and then I'm gonna talk to about that in um here in the future. However, um, there are some things when you're in the military, when you're in the process, when you're in the thick of it, you're only trained. Well, security forces are those people who work alongside with the um like you know, feet in the ground, boots in the ground, uh uh Marines and army and you know, medical personnel, and doing that type of um high-level uh having to deal with things immediately. You're you're taught to put that away and you gotta work, you know, work hard and not address those things. But there's gonna come a time and for every veteran that has is challenged with PTSD that you're gonna have to face that because it's not it's gonna show up, regardless of how you do it. And so um, so yes, I was I I had to uh thank God for um guiding me. And I truly believe that therapy and God go together, you know, like they go together. God heals you, and then the therapy like helps you to break down why is it that you're doing the things that you're doing, helps you to think about what you're thinking about and help you to deal with those emotions. And then when you bring God in, the natural, the the natural meets the super, and then you have a supernatural experience of healing, deliverance, and restoration that comes into process. Ask me how I know. You know, this is not something that you know, this is not something that I'm just saying, but I've I've seen that because um I told God when um I was like, well, I don't need therapy, I don't need therapy because of my cultural background and the association with therapy, you know, and then also being in the military that it was something that was not as um as receptive as it was before as it is now, you know, it was a sign of weakness if you got help to through mental health. And so, and I was very hesitant, um, but and I told God, God, I don't want to open this Pandora's box and lose my mind. You're gonna have to help me the whole process. And I could tell you that when I went through the, because I went through intensive therapy, and when I went through that therapy, God was with me every step of the way in every session I had. And the only reason why I believe that this happened is because I invited him in and I trusted the process with him there. You know, um, I had a breakthrough every session. In every session, I had a breakthrough, and so um, and and so I encourage all my vets that are listening, or anybody who has suffered PTSD and they're thinking, oh, I can't get over this or just work hard or focus on something else and not focus on that. That's gonna show up with irritation, it's gonna show up with hypervigilance. You know, there's a reason why you can't go to uh to the fair when there's a whole bunch of people around you. There's a reason why you always have to sit with your with your back against the wall when you go to any facility. There's a reason why you check all the exit points.

SPEAKER_05: 28:54

Oh, that's that's that's why I wonder why we're doing that. Okay, that helps. Now I understand. I do all that.

SPEAKER_00: 29:01

Yeah, so there's there's a reason why that is, you know, and it's it's a good thing to have as far as security. However, if it takes over your life that hinders you to connect with others or to do the things that you love, then you you gotta seek help. Yes. Oh, look, look at Nikki. She's uh she yep, she's one of my counselors too. There, I love her to life. She's one of my best friends that has that. Yes, don't tell me. Listen, that's all pleased don't rush in right there. Yep. She says a wise man, a woman listens, seeks advice and counseling when needed. The Holy Spirit will be very present, yes, very present. Help. And so even her, like, she's the one. She's the one that was like, you gotta go, you gotta do that. And so that's also important to have people who are accountable to you that are not yes men or or yes women, and they're like in and coddle the areas that you need to be held accountable, you know, that they lovingly tell you that you need to seek help and they're there for you for the betterment of your growth. You need accountability around people around you, people who genuinely love you, not love you just to tolerate you or love you to tolerate what you're going through and not want you to level up. To the level of excellence that God wants for you. So, and so that's that's what I say as far as like PTSD and um and and getting support and how even even that that the trauma because it's post-traumatic stress syndrome, so that that stress and that trauma has turned into, you know, I know it's a cliche, you know, my mess into a message, you know, or my testimony, but it is because now I can speak to others from a from a perspective, and it's a growing process, you know, because it's layered, you know, and so um, and so the other aspect that I wanted to speak about is as minorities, you know, as black and brown, um, as black and brown uh men and women, um, and I'm not saying that other cultures or races do not experience post-traumatic stress syndrome. I'm I'm not saying that. But what I what I am saying is is that we as minorities have to acknowledge, especially those who have lived in impoverished communities or in inner cities or in um or in a uh domestic violence situations or toxic environments, we have to um go back and address those issues because it's uh if not it, you know, that that is true. Whatever happened in your childhood is gonna show up in your adulthood and how you manage things or how you deal with things, and then you're gonna pass that on. Hence, generational, you know, yeah, it's that's generational curses or blessings, really. It's not just a spiritual thing, it's also a physical thing. You have to address that thing because it's habitual, you know. Um, obesity is habitual, dis eases are is habitual, habits are habitual, and that's you know, in habits also is part of generational curses or generational blessings. So we have to address those things that we experience. I mean, I I remember, you know, like um people who haven't been in the military, but you hear something pop, they go down. But I do know that they lived, they lived in the city. I do know that, or they lived in an area where, you know, gunshots, they had to be, you know, like there's certain things that you couldn't do. And if gunshots were heard or you heard it near around your house, you had to go into the bathtub or into the closet, an area where the bullets won't, those stray bullets won't get you. So we have to address those things to heal. So that's what I was saying. That I already what I already had some traumatic events before I joined the military that heightened my PTSD, and um, and I thank God that I addressed them and not you know try to hide them under the the you know, dig them deep and grow deeper roots of that. But I decided to you know uproot those things and and heal.

SPEAKER_05: 33:57

I love that. This that's this is uh pretty pretty deep. I want to try to share some of my veteran friends that I know deal with some of this stuff too. I guess I I deal with it as well in some areas too, so it helps me too. But I got so many more questions to ask. I got it. I got a little bit more to go here, but okay. In your opinion, what do you think the push towards holistic health came from? How do you think you might you might have answered some of that already, but kind of helped me out with what you think the push came from towards holistic health?

SPEAKER_00: 34:29

Okay, so um two things. Uh my grandfather who raised me, um uh got rest his soul, he he passed away from brain cancer. So that was um that was uh that was like the thing that pushed me over, you know. Um however, before that, um I felt like there was more to life. I just couldn't put my finger to it. And so, and then um I I was I I was challenged with infertility. There was a season in my life I was challenged with infertility and I became obsessed with it. And so um God uh He dealt with me. He's like, either you're gonna trust me or are you gonna, you know, or or are you gonna continue to be obsessed with this, you know? So I had to release it to God, and once I released it to God, then the Holy Spirit started guiding me. Uh, he started talking to me about holistic health, you know, about being healthy. And so um, and then once he started doing that, I I started to you remember W J and I 106.7. Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so you know, so um they used to have this gentleman. Oh my gosh, I can't remember, I can't forget, I can't believe I forgot his name. Well, he was a believer and he had a natural store downtown Charleston, um, Books, Herbs, and Spices. Yeah, books, herbs, and spices.

SPEAKER_05: 35:57

And he would have been here long enough for that one.

SPEAKER_00: 36:00

Yeah, listen, I've been here since 12 years.

SPEAKER_05: 36:02

Is that long enough for that?

SPEAKER_00: 36:03

Oh, four, yeah, he's been, he was here, he was here for a while. I forgot his name, but um, he was an amazing gentleman, and so um his book, he he was in downtown Charleston, and his store was called Books, Herbs, and Spices. And he was a believer, and he and I used to go there and I just asked questions, and he will always teach me. And then he shared his testimony about his wife dealing with infertility, and I think they have double-digit kids, okay? So, you know, so I was like, okay, you know, he knows something about this. Yeah, it works. Um, but he taught me, and so I just started going in there, reading books, um, taking care of my health, and um, and God, uh, before uh a month before my 30th birthday, he blessed me. Um, I I he he gave me a word, and I knew that that um that whole thing about healing holistically is like your soul, your your spirit and your body, and I was already going through my deliverance journey. And so um he gave me a word, and so he says, uh, I forgot where it was, but it's in Isaiah, and so he it talks about, you know, the woman, he's talking to the woman that was barren, and he said, and she and he's telling her, uh, you know, enlarge your tent because it's going to grow, you know, and so and that's what the word he gave me, and then on my birthday, um, I I I knew the day that I that my daughter was conceived, I knew I got I was pregnant. I just knew it. I know that's crazy to say, but I just knew it. And then he because he gave me that word, and then um um on my birthday, I found out that I was pregnant. So, and and so that was that was my miracle, yeah. And so, and then with my grandfather, um, I was hesitant to tell people about health, you know, like this has worked for me, it can work for you, and because I don't want to offend nobody, but then when he passed away, I promised myself that I would never allow nobody else to cross my path that I if I can change their life, I'm I'm not going to be afraid to share the gift of health. And so that's that's what got me to holistic.

SPEAKER_05: 38:13

Okay, I love that, I love that a lot. Talk to me about restoration from within. I heard you got some kind of five-day challenge going on. What's happening with that?

SPEAKER_00: 38:22

Okay, so um, so uh we do have a coaching program coming up, and it's uh it's called Reclaiming My Time. And so God's been really dealing with me with me about time, right? And so I'm like, okay, so and um and it's I believe it's Ephesians. Look, he got me reading this one thing. He says, be mindful, like something about um, I know Psalms 90 and 12, it talks about teach me the number your days and I will grow a heart of wisdom. That's something that he's always been uh you know teaching me. But in Fiji in Ephesians, I forgot um it talks about it says be mindful of what you're doing, um, and and be intentional, pretty much. I'm paraphrasing it, and I'm so sorry. And I'll share it once we're done here in the comment section.

SPEAKER_03: 39:07

But it talks about because the days are yeah, I think it's because the days are evil.

SPEAKER_00: 39:13

Yeah, because the days are evil. I know it ends like that, and that's yeah, and that's what we're living right now, you know. So we have to be intentional about that. So the coaching program is five days, and we're gonna go from God's perspective, like you know, how to center our lives for what God wants us to do in this season and stop wasting time and be intentional because it's super important for us to do that. Um, and and of course, it's um anybody that desires to take it, however, I do cater to my entrepreneurs and to my mom's, you know, and so um uh my team and I were working on the the planner because it comes with a planner as well. You can buy it separately, uh 12-month planner for 2025. And so um, and then we're also going to as a gift, you also get a downloadable planner for the rest of 2024. So it's it's yeah, it's like the coaching, five-day coaching, um, it's uh it's on-demand coaching, and then you get the the the hard copy uh planner in January 2020, well, you know, soon before that, and the 2025 planner, and then you get a downloadable 2024 one. Um, but so that's just an aspect. So um in this season right now, Restoration from Within has different aspects. So it's the coaching, which we do the group coaching, or we do wellness workshops, and um, or I do speaking engagements or interviews like this. And then the other side is RFW Bath and Body Care, where it's clean products. You know, I want to introduce my clients and others of the same clean experience that I'm having with clean products because it's not just taking restoring yourself from the inside, but also the outside, because it's just as important. We tend to forget that our largest organ, we don't we don't give that TLC that we need to our largest organ, which is the skin, and your skin will always tell on you. Your skin will always tell on you. I'm telling you, yeah, and so we just recently also expanded to holistic care. So what that's where we have uh um teams. I know, right? I'm just like guy, you are you're doing this all by your doing this all by yourself. Um, no, my team, which is you know, the family. Yeah, I do. I have a team, so it's it's a family. Yeah, so everybody works in this house, everybody gets their coins somewhere or another in this house. So um uh my team is my family, and I do also have uh some other team members that don't live in the same household as me. And so um uh we we do the production uh side of things, and everybody's responsible for one area, but I yeah, I did. I partnered. Um, going back to the the harvester name, um I've I always had a desire to have my own farm. I will have you know my own farm here in the States, however, I've partnered with Shalom Farms in Malawi, Africa, and so because I've had that opportunity, yes, I've um I know, thank you. To God be the glory. We've partnered with them, and um I we it's commercial farming, and we've uh they've grown our hibiscus uh flowers from there. So, and that's what's uh what's created our holistic care line, which is our tinctures. We have uh wild uh oil of oregano extract, and we also have our hibiscus tincture and our hibiscus tea. And we've had some amazing results, some really, really amazing results with that um of what the health potential and benefits, you know, potential benefits that you can receive just by incorporating these two aspects. But we could we do plan to expand um our holistic care, which is taking our time with nurturing what we have now and sharing the gift of health through our um through our hibiscus tincture, our wild oregano oil extract, and also our teas.

SPEAKER_05: 43:21

Okay, I love this. And I always I told you this during our pre-production meeting. I tell everybody that when we have pre-production meetings, I said, you know what? This is an opportunity for you to kind of have a platform. I want you to share what you got going on, and and it's gonna be some time, but I'm gonna say what you won't say. I take care of my people. Uh I don't expect you to say it, I'm gonna say it for you, and I'll take all the bullets that come with it.

SPEAKER_03: 43:47

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_05: 43:49

Anybody listening that want to be interviewed by me at some point in the conversation for that 60 minutes? I'm gonna say something that you were thinking anyway, probably, and you never say it. Yeah, I'm gonna stay out here and I don't care what happens. Now is that moment. Now, I know that people might think that the work that you're doing is similar to theirs, might go on Facebook or uh Instagram or whatever, you see something that's similar, and they might think, Oh, my stuff is just like that. But they're not ascribing to biblical principles like you are, so it's not the same, y'all. Just to get it clear, you might got some soaps and some uh some skin scrubs and stuff, but it's not the same. You understand? This is different, it's coming from a different place. Why do you think the biblical side is an important separator from what's out there right now? Why is that important that that's uh uh uh ingrained and embedded in what you're doing right now? Why is that important?

SPEAKER_00: 44:44

Um I forgot the term. Lord, Holy Spirit, bring it to me. Okay, all right, he did. Okay, so um in the health and wellness arena, um, there's a lot of different beliefs. There's not many kingdom individuals, you know. I can I can that I personally know, I only know of probably one outside of me, and we both know Chevy, you know, Chevy Noble, um she's kingdom. Um, and then the people who my group of uh of colleagues that we work with the hibiscus care, they're kingdom, you know. So there's not many in that are in that uh in that field, in the health and wellness field that are kingdom. And so that's that is our our common core here at Restoration from Within is a kingdom path to holistic wellness. And so um a lot has been um stolen from biblical principles and established into other belief systems, and because uh because we are a business that is heavily owned and locally operated, we follow the biblical principles of what God has. And so if you do not want to be part of the I just lost the word again. Oh, I was just talking to the preacher about this. Um, it's called synchronism. So synchronism is when you mix uh faiths and beliefs and you know create your own, you know. So, and that you're not gonna find that here at restoration from within, you know. So it's it's straight up prayer, the Holy Spirit, you know, the Trinity, God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit, you know. And if you don't like listen, the blood of Jesus, yeah, what the Bible says, yes, I'm gonna be declaring and declaring over these products. I'm gonna meet with the Holy Spirit, and that's that's my secret. You know, if you want to know what's the secret sauce over here, is is Bible and the Holy Spirit, you know, so you don't have to worry, you don't you don't have to concern yourself that um that the products that are created at restoration from within have the serve other gods?

SPEAKER_05: 46:55

I love that. I love that. All right, we there's still a whole bunch more I want to ask you. I hope we can get it in. We got some time. I'm I'm not I'm not sure we do, but I'm gonna do my best though. But you were very excited about an upcoming project. Uh you mentioned reclaiming your time. Can you share a little bit about that? Is that something you can share this early, or is it kind of we need to stay on the wraps for right now? Can you talk about it?

SPEAKER_00: 47:19

No, no, yeah, we can. Um, uh, Lucrece, if you can, you if you could please put the um the link in the comment section. So, yeah, so reclaiming your time is a coaching uh program. Um, it's a five-day coaching program and it's an on-demand. So um, because uh moms or well, everybody lives busy lives, and like I said, it's catered to to moms, but the biblical principles that I'm teaching and the practical uh thing, the practical coaching that I'm also uh sharing is it can be it can be done with for anybody, and so yeah, it's straight up Bible, it's is neck deep in Bible because you know that's where we come from from our belief system. We we center, we return every back to we our goal, one of our founding um beliefs is that we return back to God's original plan for our lives, you know, and one of the ways that you do that is by Bible, reading the Bible. What does the Bible say about this? And because if if the Bible is the truth and it sets you free, well, we're gonna start there. And so then what and so that's we're gonna do we're gonna talk about the biblical principles and some strategies that you can implement so that you can be intentional, so that you can reclaim that um that that that terrain that distraction has stolen from you, you know, or that life in itself, the chaos of life has stolen from you, can reclaim back that time that God has given you. Because we all have 24 hours in a day, right? And one of the things that I have learned in creating this um this the coaching program is that everybody you might you might perceive time as short increments. Some people might perceive time as sh as long increments, but one thing that cannot be changed is that our time the way we spend our time is is directly related to our perception and our passion, which creates the productivity that we will that we desire in our lives. So when our passion that it should be at the core, it should be our passion for for whatever God has intended us to do and be in alignment with His will, yeah, we'll feed into will feed into the perception, and now we're not perceiving things through our eyes, through our culture, or through the world, because the world is gonna try to drag you everywhere, saying, This is important, this is important, this is important. No, what you do is you create that productivity that God intended for you to have by removing your hand from the world, trying to drag you everywhere, and you place it in your heart, and you say, No, this is important for me, and you and you grow and you manage, you reclaim your time by doing what's important for you and not what the culture or what the world desires for you to do.

SPEAKER_05: 50:13

That makes sense. Makes a lot of sense. I like that. Okay, thank you. That's good. Yes, hearing that. That's that's hopefully we will have on the YouTube channel in the comments under the episode. If we want to get everything you've been sharing, everything about RFW and reclaiming your time. I want to get whatever you have, it's in the in the form of a link or website. Please drop it in the comment section under the uh episode for today. I want everybody to be able to see that. So that's really important that that happens. Now, in our time together, you also mentioned a break from social media. I can tell because when I post something about the podcast, you never like it or share it. So I know you're not on there.

SPEAKER_00: 50:50

So yeah, oh, yeah. Well, I I didn't share um what you shared because um I'm actually in consecration right now. My I am present as far as like you know, reclaiming your time. I have scheduled my posts, but I have hey, that ain't shade.

SPEAKER_05: 51:06

I'm just I'm just saying are you on a break? I wanted to hear, I wanted you to share if you can share with it, share it with share it with us.

SPEAKER_00: 51:15

It was part of my it was part of the team strategy. We shared it in our emails, we shared it on our social media outlets, we scheduled it, and then today I actually came on and physically shared it. And so, but it it was in our emails last week on our newsletter, in our email this week, and um, oh, and in our um itinerary, right? Yep, thank you, thank you, Lucre.

SPEAKER_05: 51:41

So it wasn't the kind of break like people just get tired of people uh not agreeing with them and they and they log off.

SPEAKER_00: 51:47

It wasn't that kind of break, it was like a oh no, God told me to, yeah. God told me to. He's like, get off that, get off that book and get in my book. I was like, okay, sir.

SPEAKER_05: 51:58

No words, no words. Now we had a funny part of our conversation offline. This is I feel like this was a uh a New Yorker talking to a New Yorker. This is just what I thought. I don't know if people from the South gonna feel funny about this or not. They're gonna look at us funny, but again, I'll say what you won't say, and we'll and I'll I'll bring up the topic. If you don't want to go there, we won't go there, you know worries here.

SPEAKER_03: 52:20

It's all I ain't scared.

SPEAKER_05: 52:22

Let's get never gonna be scared. That's why this is that's why this is always happening. You need some very pointed comments about getting too familiar. Now, I think I understand what that means because I've it's been discussed in my household at a time or two, but explain that for our audience if you think it's gonna bring value anywhere, or if you think that. What do you mean by getting too familiar? Why is that important to you for that not to happen? Can you break that down a little bit?

SPEAKER_00: 52:51

Yeah, so one of and and I learned it, I learned it through a hard lesson. It's like getting too familiar. And what I meant by like in relationships, whether it's a working relationship at church or at a workplace or even business, if you have a personal relationship with someone and that turns into a business relationship on another perspective, even with personal uh relationships, we should not get too familiar with people, you know, to the capacity that we devalue what they bring to the table or limit them by our our our our view of them because we've had a um a backstage uh access to you know to to some areas that that they need to grow into. Does that make sense?

SPEAKER_05: 53:42

Yeah, yeah, but I need you to flush it out. I'm I'm here, I I get it, but I don't want to try to Yeah, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_00: 53:49

Okay, I got you.

SPEAKER_03: 53:52

Bring it out, bring it out.

SPEAKER_00: 53:53

Yeah, because I'm yeah, because I'm defining it, I'm defining it because you have to know and understand that regardless of how you see a person, you need to see them through God's perspective. You need to still honor that individual, especially if you if God has even given you a uh insight on seeing the gift and that individual, and in that season, they might they might not be as mature as they want to be, or sometimes because you become too familiar with an individual and you know, and and you you forget that they're an asset to you, or they're an asset to the kingdom, and you don't utilize them to that capacity, or that you devalue them. But honestly, when it comes to that perspective, I think that there's an internal issue going on with the person that's doing the devaluing, so you know, like something on the inside, yeah. So you must have professional and per and and and uh personal boundaries, and so and and once you and once you see that, you can't you to me, I learned that in the military, you can't get too familiar with people and then think that you got it going on and and you're the best thing to slice bread because you have a relationship with this individual. And then when it comes time for uh you know, for work to be work or for you to be professional, you over here acting like you know, y'all just buddy buddy, but this is a professional environment that you need to separate your um your personal relationship from your professional relationship.

SPEAKER_05: 55:24

I I wish I can bottle that first part of what you said, because that's that's that's the part right there. A lot of times people uh they avoid getting too familiar because they uh they worry about somebody hurting them, but what you said was even uh deeper than that. You don't want to kind of it's almost like people who uh we could use a ministry as an example or uh maybe an organization where you got somebody who has uh a level of influence and and and fame and they're part of the organization. Uh if you get too familiar, uh you won't be able to receive what they have. Uh you won't be able to respect the gifts that they have. You kind of look at them like, oh, that's just so and so. Uh you call them by their first name as opposed to title and office that they're in at that time.

SPEAKER_00: 56:06

Yeah, if it's a professional environment, yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 56:09

My wife, my wife's brother tells a story, she's not here to tell us I'm gonna tell it for. You always say that you know that when when dad was alive, when they were at church, they were never to call him dad.

unknown: 56:22

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_05: 56:24

It was it was Reverend Geiger. I thought that was so awesome that while he was in the office that he's in, you call him by the name in respect of that office.

unknown: 56:35

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_05: 56:36

It's a familiar now. We call people by their first name, and we should just forget that this is you know uh pastor, or this is our leader, or this is the president or the CEO, and we call them by the first name, and then we uh talking about him at the water cooler, like like they don't have no uh office, or they don't have no one, they don't have no car. You know, it's like I love that. I can't keep going. If you got we gotta stop that real quick, I'm gonna go some places. I want to ask Kat, what does cat do for relaxation and fun? What do you do to relax and have fun? When's the last time that happened? Can you remember that far back?

SPEAKER_00: 57:09

It was yesterday. I ain't gonna lie, it was yesterday. I took the day off yesterday. Yeah, I did. I'm not gonna lie. Um, it was yes. Um, I I like to take naps. I like to um I like to take naps.

SPEAKER_05: 57:26

That's a t-shirt I ever heard. Wear that t-shirt one day. I like to take that.

SPEAKER_00: 57:30

I like to take naps. I do. I'm not gonna lie. I like to take naps and um I like to I like to ride, you know, so I like to like, yeah, not me drive, but I want to be on the passenger side. And I just I just like to ride and you know, uh with my kids or with my uh with my family, and you know, we just you know do stuff. Um just the actual riding because you know, conversations are had. Um, I don't know, it's just like the the motion, the being in motion feeling, it relaxes me. So outside of taking naps, yeah. That's the oh and reading. I love to read. I do, I love to read. So that's relaxing.

SPEAKER_05: 58:23

As long as it's not raining in Charleston, I think drive the driving part sounds cool. This is raining in Charleston. That's yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 58:28

I'm like no, I'm like this driving, you know, when it's raining, because you know it's like cats and dogs out here, and then you know, people yeah, we're gonna talk about them.

SPEAKER_05: 58:43

They can't drive out here, it's just a bottom line. What's cat's favorite food, your favorite guilty pleasure in food? Um you can't have it. What's your favorite food? Guilty pleasure wise.

SPEAKER_00: 58:57

Uh uh a good pizza. Well, okay, all right. I'm a uh mofongo. It's a smashed plantain.

SPEAKER_05: 59:07

I don't know what mofongo with, but go, but go ahead and explain it.

SPEAKER_00: 59:09

Yeah, it's uh yeah, it's a smashed plantain, and you can have it either with sauteed shrimp. Yeah, I forgot you were chef. With saute and you from New York too, uh sauteed shrimp or chicken or uh pork. I usually um I usually I usually get it with the sauteed shrimp. I don't eat shrimp all the time, you know, but when I do go home, well either I I either get the the the juice of the saute, but yeah, mofongo.

SPEAKER_05: 59:38

Are you putting the mofongo recipe in the on the YouTube channel?

SPEAKER_00: 59:42

Um not yeah, listen, I got I got a spot I go to, and I'm still trying to find one here, like that has a good mofongo. Here, yeah, there's there's some Puerto Rican spots here. You'd be surprised. I follow, I'm part of this. I ain't seen one yet. Yeah, I'm okay. I'm gonna add you to it's like a restaurant um spot, like it shares all the restaurants here in Charleston, like it, you know, like all the restaurants are what good spots to go to eat. So definitely that's why I I found them. I haven't eaten there yet, um, but that's one of my things. Oh, food trucks. I love food trucks. I love visiting food trucks. Yeah, that's my that's my answer for here. In uh in Florida is the Mofongo. Here is um food trucks. I love visiting food trucks.

SPEAKER_05: 1:00:34

I don't know if I can do it. I used to work in some of the bad houses of the restaurants, and I I seen the food trucks. I'm not I don't know, I don't know if I can do that. If you want to do that, that's fine. I don't know what is Nikki talking about, Chipotle. Chipotle, listen ain't no ain't no more fun.

SPEAKER_00: 1:00:57

The one around me is hit or miss.

SPEAKER_05: 1:00:59

I just be like, man, you never know it could be good and it could be not so good.

SPEAKER_00: 1:01:05

Yes, well. Of my one of my favorite um spots here is um my uh homegirl um Cheryl Alkaline Chef Cheryl. So um yeah so uh she's she's uh she's the vegan queen and she has a truck. Oh my gosh, she got these mushrooms. Oh okay. Let me get back, let me get back.

SPEAKER_05: 1:01:25

And she's not clean. I'm gonna ask this on the air because I don't care what happened.

SPEAKER_00: 1:01:29

You know, no, she is, she's very clean. I know her personally, so yes, she will not be.

SPEAKER_05: 1:01:39

It's for a reason, they call it roach coach for a reason.

SPEAKER_00: 1:01:41

I know, but these are not these are not roach coaches, they're food trucks, and hers is the bomb. And I like banging vegans, uh, too, so they're pretty good. I like them. Banging, yes, bangin' vegan. Listen, they got these wingless um uh uh, but it's really cauliflower.

SPEAKER_05: 1:02:01

Meatless wings, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:02:03

No, they got it's like cauliflower, fried cauliflower, and then they have this amazing um Asian sauce with it. Yo, oh my goodness, it's so I like good.

SPEAKER_05: 1:02:15

I like good food. Most of our listeners are foody, so I know I know they're getting with it, but yeah, I ain't turning me into no vegan. I'm gonna tell you that right now.

SPEAKER_00: 1:02:21

Let me some meat, but you don't have to.

SPEAKER_05: 1:02:24

I'm telling you, I will eat it, but I don't don't think it's gonna be a light.

SPEAKER_00: 1:02:28

You can't knock it until you try my uh Cheryl.

SPEAKER_05: 1:02:32

Well, I'm I I want to try Cheryl's stuff.

SPEAKER_00: 1:02:34

Okay, yeah, I'm telling you. Cheryl got portability mushroom burger.

SPEAKER_05: 1:02:39

That thing is fooling to me, though. I ain't trying to chipotle. I don't know, but matter of fact, I think we I think I'm out on that for good now. I think I'm done with Chipotle. I'm tired of I think I think I'm done with that completely. But it's it's all it's a whole lifestyle change that's happening. I'm just cutting off a whole bunch of stuff because oh, yeah, I get it. I ain't feeling good, so I gotta quit that. But I love the healthy ideas and healthy lifestyle that you're living and leading and teaching about. This is an awesome conversation. I appreciate it so much. It's really, really awesome.

SPEAKER_00: 1:03:08

Thank you for that.

SPEAKER_05: 1:03:09

So much fun. We gotta do it again down the line when you got some more stuff going on, and I want to promote you as much as possible. Um, for all you guys that are listening audio only wise, this episode is going to be on Apple Podcast, where you can subscribe to our show. Please do that if you get if you get a moment. Of course, if you're just listening, you already subscribed already, Spotify, iHeartRadio, Pandora, Amazon Music, wherever you get your podcast from audio-wise, we are there. Of course, our YouTube channel which you have all of these comments from Casa Ventures and some of her uh business dealings and her teachings and stuff and the coaching. It's gonna all be in the comment section under the episode on our YouTube channel, youtube.com at recall me Mr. You. Uh please subscribe there if you can. But come over here in the comment section and don't subscribe now. I'm watching y'all. I'm watching y'all. Your comments are awesome. So come in here and don't subscribe. All y'all. I'm just playing. Please subscribe if you can now. Fry caliph might be delicious, but okay. I I'm I'm I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna try some stuff out. I'm I'm I'm getting over. But again for doing this, and wherever you are, and how you guys are hearing the call measure you the podcast. Thanks again for making us a part of your morning, your day, and your week with your weekly mirror check before you change the web. Thanks again, cat. This has been awesome.

SPEAKER_00: 1:04:27

Thank you.

SPEAKER_05: 1:04:29

This is great.

SPEAKER_00: 1:04:30

Hey, see you later. Snack goodbye. See you later.

SPEAKER_05: 1:04:34

Oh no, see you later. All right, Bobby.