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What if your body has been whispering the answers all along? We sit down with nutritionist Alana Boneman to rethink health after 30, from the food on your plate to the stress you carry into sleep. Alana shares a grounded, no-restriction approach that replaces diet fads with durable habits: a simple plate framework, seasonal eating, and the courage to listen when your body signals something’s off.

We dig into why weight is often a symptom—not the root cause—and how to shift your “set point” with small, consistent changes. Alana explains how ultra-palatable foods and savvy marketing hijack appetites, making vegetables and fiber-rich whole foods non-negotiable for gut health, hormones, and steady mood. For women, she unpacks the monthly and midlife transitions that magnify stress and sleep debt, and she offers realistic tools to feel well across cycles, fertility, perimenopause, and menopause.

This conversation gets personal too: panic attacks, morning light, mindset work, and the discipline to build routines that actually fit real life. We trade notes on podcasting’s emotional toll, creative energy, and staying purpose-driven when progress dips. You’ll hear cultural texture—from Germany’s organized cadence and sauerkraut staples to Australia’s rich food mix and legendary coffee—that shows how environment shapes health choices.

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Chapters

• 0:56 Nutritionist Discusses Optimizing Health After 30
• 11:51 Modern Lifestyles' Health Impact
• 17:32 Vegetables and Listening to Your Body
• 22:51 Navigating the Challenges of Podcasting
• 29:24 Family and Health Perspective
• 35:19 Australia and Germany Food Comparisons
• 45:37 Creating a Day in the Life
• 52:23 Perceptions of Germany and Australia
• 58:28 Australia's Perceptions and Health Advice

Transcript

SPEAKER_00: 0:33

Let's not wait for the minute. Welcome back to one-on-one with Mr. U. Great. Hope you guys are having a great day wherever you are and how you're listening to our show. As always, our interviews are always insightful and thoughtful, and we hope you provide help and information for those that are watching and listening. And this morning we have famed nutritionist Alana Bonaman with us today. She has a lot to talk about. Honestly, I'm excited about this one for more than a few reasons because health and understanding of our health is a big deal for me and my household and people who are close to me, even some of our listeners. So I'm hoping that you get value out of this, whether you're watching it live or you catch it on the replay. If you are watching this on YouTube, please check out youtube.com at the call me Mr. You. You see a live episode there if you can't watch it live with us now. And of course, Summercast on all your social media platforms. But good morning, Alana. Well, it's afternoon for you, where you are. Where are you exactly today?

SPEAKER_04: 1:53

I'm in Germany. I'm coming from Germany. So my afternoon is your morning. But thank you so much for having me on the show.

SPEAKER_00: 2:02

This and I'm excited to hear what you're gonna share with our listeners. So I'm excited. But we had so many great insightful conversations. I think one of the things that I really want to have you share about is kind of your story because you're from Australia, for what I understand. So I'd love to share briefly, share your story from you of your journey from Australia to Germany as such. It's not mean it may not be unusual to make that trip from Australia to Germany. Others have done it before. I've heard of others who have done it, but yeah, it's a beautiful love story attached to yours. So I love to hear that.

SPEAKER_04: 2:34

Uh it is an ultimate love story, actually. Yeah, so I'm from Australia originally. Uh and when I was 16 at high school, um, the German Exchange student came to my school and he was my first boyfriend. And we didn't stay together the whole time. But over the years, you know, I went to Germany traveling, I went to Europe, he came to Australia, and over the years we stayed in touch. There was ups and there was downs. And in the end, we decided, you know, when you meet someone and you have the same values and you have the same outlook. This has been, you know, we met in 2002 when we were 16. We decided, okay, let's do this in 2010, and now it's 2024 when we're married with two kids and living in Germany. That's the short story, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00: 3:23

Well, that's that's that's a great story, though. I love it. Wow. So okay, this is a lot I want to get into, so we'll take our time with this and not rush this. I think this is pretty cool. But describe for our audience what you do as a nutritionist and what your goal is.

SPEAKER_04: 3:39

Yeah, yeah, that's yeah, that's it. What is the goal? You know, why why do we do this? So I'm a nutritionist, but I've actually studied uh neitropathy, which it's kind of an umbrella turn for nutrition, also homeopathy, although I don't really, not really into it, and also herbal medicine. So it's a holistic approach to health. And for me, nutrition, it's more than just eat well and do this. For me, it's the foundation of health. You know, everyone's eating, we're all doing it several times a day. And it has such a profound effect on how we feel, how we show up, you know, our mood, how well we work, how well we focus, how productive we are, how we feel. And for me, nutrition is yes, as I said, more than we eat. It's a way in which I envision changing the world. I work with people one-on-one. And if I can make them feel well, if I can get them to their optimal health, then they show up in their lives better. You know, they're friendlier in their workplace or more productive in their workplace, they have better relationships when they get stuck in a traffic jam, they have kind of a better approach to it because they're just feeling better. So it could be a ripple effect of kind of making the world a better place if that doesn't sound, you know, too ambitious.

SPEAKER_00: 4:55

Sounds awesome. That's the motto of this show. So that's no, that's great. No, that's awesome. Without having to reveal specifics about any of your clients, what would you say is the biggest health challenge that you've seen and you helped somebody overcome?

SPEAKER_04: 5:09

Yeah, yeah. So I work with women mostly, and I work with weight management actually. And it's not because I'm in the weight space, but there's just so many conditions that come down, or like so many conditions that have weight as a side effect. And so a lot of people, you know, they come to see me, they say, Oh, I've you know, I'm carrying weight, I want to lose weight. And when we unpack that a bit, it's not like the weight is just a byproduct. So many, many things going on, hormonal imbalances, stress, pay perhaps poor eating, maybe a thyroid condition, maybe PCOS, there's an underlying condition. So we work to kind of unpack what's going on. And by correcting nutrition, by correcting lifestyle, managing stress and getting to the root cause, we can kind of like the the weight becomes then just a byproduct of being health. Like the weight loss becomes a byproduct of being healthy. So that's how I kind of work. And I guess, yeah, to kind of hone in on that, when I work with people, we have we have set points. Like everyone has a certain set point where they are and how they do things and how they show up in the world. And we will always go back to our set point. So even if you kind of are on a weight loss journey, let's say, and you do all the dieting and you do all the things, if it's not sustainable, you'll just gravitate back to that wet point. So it's a wet weight point. So if anyone's tried to lose weight before and just rebounded to exactly where they've been, they're just kind of going back to their natural set point. So I work to kind of change set points in people. It's never it's not a drastic thing, it's not like lose 10 pounds or 50 pounds, whatever it is, or you know, five kilos in a week. It's not like that. It's how can we bring in small habits to make big change?

SPEAKER_00: 6:57

So that's kind of like a kind of like a kind of kind of like avoiding a plateau, yeah, and making it sustainable, making it long term. I love it. I love it. Of all you guys that are listening and watching, first off, thank you for listening to the uh interview today. I think it's gonna be a blessing to you. But also, if you have any questions by all means, please jump on to our YouTube channel or the live comments are already ready to rock and roll, and you can send your question. Ask Alana any questions you have about health and nutrition. I'm sure she's ready to hear from you. She'd be excited to hear the kid that you're listening to this conversation. So please drop your questions, we'll answer those as soon as they come through. So, Alana, tell me why did you start health after 30? I'm sure that for every big uh invention and innovation and project, there's always a reason or a purpose behind it. Why'd you start health after 30?

SPEAKER_04: 7:46

Right. So health after 30 is the name of my podcast. And I mean, health after 30, I feel like it's kind of a it's a singles party for after 30s. You know, that's I feel that that name is kind of like that. But for me, health after 30 was I got to 30 and I started looking around at my friends, my family, people were getting knee pains, people were getting back pains, people were getting stressed, cancer started coming to the conversation, depression, mental health, fitness. I mean, I'm you know, I'm already going gray. This is this is for me, you know, it's like this is what happens after we turn 30. And these ideas, these ideas that we had when we're 20, you've got to live fast, live fast, die young. It just doesn't work. If we don't look after ourselves, we're gonna hit, if we don't look after ourselves when we're younger, we're kind of gonna hit later on in life. And chronic disease might become more of a reality. If we look at our parents and what's going on in their health, we know genetics is a major factor of it, but we also know epigenetics plays a role too. So, how can we change our health and how can we change it as early as possible? So for me, that's kind of where health after 30, you know, we can't just kind of rely on the old tricks that used to work. We actually need to start yeah, stepping up and looking after ourselves. So that's where it's born.

SPEAKER_00: 9:05

I love it. We had a lot of candid conversations about what you've been seeing with food making people sick. And you know, that's something that I've I've always been a bit of a label turner, but over the years you started getting like more casual with it, and you don't turn as much and you don't read through the laundry list of ingredients as much. But I've kind of I've kind of rebounded and gotten back to the place where I wanted to be, where now I'm reading everything. And if I don't recognize it, and I if it feels as though it's something I need to look up, I'll look it up before I even think about purchasing it. But why do you think personally, from what you've seen in your experience in your business, why do you think the illnesses uh of those of the foods that we eat? Why do you think that? What are you seeing?

SPEAKER_03: 9:54

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SPEAKER_04: 11:33

Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's a really good question because it's not just what I see in practice. I think it's what we're also seeing in the data. Things are changing. You know, from like the 80s and the 90s, there's just been this rise up in disease and illness. And of course, a lot of like it's a lifestyle, but a lot of that comes to our foods, the way in which foods have changed. They've changed to become irresistible now. Food is delicious. It's not just to nourish us, it's it's become more than that. And so there's not only delicious food out there, but we've also got the food industry working against us that's kind of making money from the foods that we eat. So they want us coming back for the food. Not only that, but we've also got marketing, advertising. No one sees a broccoli advertised ever. You know, you only see, you know, you see the foods that are they're processed, they're in packages.

SPEAKER_00: 12:27

And I'm not selling broccoli now. I'm not, I'm not gonna lie to you. That's my favorite vegetables.

SPEAKER_04: 12:31

I'm not gonna happen, and it's happening, it's not only in the States, it's happening in Australia, it's happening in Germany, it's happening all over the world. And so we have what we're eating and the change in the way in which we're eating. Are we even cooking at home or are we getting takeout? What types of foods are we cooking at home? Um, and then how is that reflecting in our health? So there's this change that's happened in our food industry, but if we look at our lifestyle as well, from the agricultural revolution to you know the industrial revolution and now to the technology age, our lifestyle is it's skyrocketing with everything that we can do now. But humans haven't really evolved. Like we're still pretty much the same as we were, you know, hunter and gatherer. We still need the sunlight from the sky to activate our circadian rhythm. We still need to sleep eight hours. We still need to do certain things. We need to eat, we need to drink.

SPEAKER_01: 13:32

We're doing it.

SPEAKER_04: 13:34

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01: 13:34

Our lifestyle is just it's easy to stay.

SPEAKER_04: 13:37

Yeah, we can just stay on our phone and scroll until 4 a.m. The lights, you know, kind of triggering that sunrise effect. And so there's just a big disconnect. There's a massive, massive disconnect to ourselves, our body, our environment. And I think this is kind of what's making us sick. I want to say one last thing to this. If we take any animal outside of their natural environment, what happens? They get sick.

SPEAKER_00: 14:02

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_04: 14:03

And where does where animals kind of just evolved? Yeah, we're not as evolved as our environment yet. And so I think that's kind of what's making us sick as well.

SPEAKER_00: 14:13

That makes sense. That makes sense. I know you've seen a lot in your business and even in your podcast work and the people that you talk to and the show and the stories that they share. What are you personally seeing as been most alarming? Can you are you able to share that? Just in general, if possible.

SPEAKER_04: 14:31

Well, yeah, I mean, I think when it comes to female health, there's a lot of things that go on for us. So not only are so we've got this menstrual cycle that comes once a month. So for women, this might mean they're not getting a cycle or they can't have a regular cycle, which means if they want to fall pregnant, they can't fall pregnant. And so this has become like an issue for them. And then not only, even if they want to become pregnant or not, we then go through that stage of life and then we'll come into perimenopause and menopause. Women are like constantly changing through all these hormonal phases. Perimenopause and menopause is kind of like the second adolescence for women. And if we're out of balance, if our body's out of balance, then it doesn't, these transitions, our monthly periods, are not comfortable. Perhaps struggle with pregnancy and then perimenopause and then menopause, all of it's quite a struggle. So I think the biggest thing that women are seeing is this constant struggle with their hormones as they try to kind of get through their month. And yeah, I think that's pretty disheartening.

SPEAKER_00: 15:37

Okay. Is that is that are you still you think that that's related to what they eat or some other factor?

SPEAKER_04: 15:46

Well, I mean, I mean, it's not just what they eat. Like I always like to say it's never just one thing. We need to take a holistic approach to our health because you know, we need to eat well, we need to move, we need to manage stress, we need to manage our hormones through doing all of this. And if we're not eating the right food, then it's kind of making it can make things worse. So it's definitely something we need to address.

SPEAKER_00: 16:12

All right, so if you guys that are listening and watching us here or on YouTube or wherever you're assigned casting this uh episode of One on One with Mr. U, please drop your questions. Dr. Lon is ready to hear from you and take your questions and share whatever you're comfortable sharing, and perhaps we can offer some uh advice and some insights on that. So please drop your questions in the chat right where you are there. There's a uh it's funny, we talked about a lot of stuff, but there's uh I have some people who are some friends and former socialist minds, and they had have some interesting views on health, and there's a perception in some of these circles that vegetables are not needed to be healthy. It's very, very interesting. I know it's not foreign to you, but what do you personally think about that idea that we don't need to have vegetables to be healthy?

SPEAKER_04: 17:01

Well, I mean, I think we need to define health, right? Like what is healthy? For me, healthy is have being like being mentally alert, being physically active, and also not only on the outside, feeling well but and looking well, but also internally what's happening. Vegetables play a major role in our gut health. And as a naturopath, like gut health is kind of the root of everything. If we're not digesting food properly, we can't absorb nutrients. We need nutrients to have strong hair, skin, and nails. We need nutrients for our brains to function, we need nutrients to also just to for our thyroid, everything in our body needs nutrients. Um, and we can get it from animal source, but we we need sorry, we we need vegetables. It is so important in our day. And if anyone were to say to me we don't need them to be healthy, I would say we do. We definitely do. And you know, the supplement industry is massive. They it says on the back of the packets, do not, you know, you cannot um replace a diet with supplements. So for us to be genuinely healthy, we need a diverse range of foods. Foods that are not in packages, don't have shelf life, don't have stabilizers or emulsifiers. We need food as close to nature as possible. And a vegetable is almost as close to possible close to nature as possible. So I would I would fight that to my grave to say um vegetables are important, important.

SPEAKER_00: 18:43

Yeah, I mean, I personally love my vegetables. I I know that there's people who are are friends of mine, so what happens, they'd be like, Oh, we don't need that, all we need is just meat. I'm like, okay, well, I'm I I love me, I love meat. I'm not gonna sugarcoat it. I most definitely do.

unknown: 18:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 18:59

Uh, but as far as the vegetable part goes, I think it helps me out. Yeah, I can take supplements and stuff, but like you said, we if you get the time to read it, you'll see that you'll probably recommend you don't try to replace it. That's why they call it a supplement, because you add it to what you'd already be doing. So it makes sense. And you mentioned a lot about listening to your body more. What does that mean in a nutshell for you when you say listen to your body? We I hear that in circles and commercials and or in uh nutrition circles and stuff, but what does that mean to you? Yeah, your body?

SPEAKER_04: 19:31

To your body, yeah. What does that mean? I feel like people we don't even know what that means anymore because it's so out of it. So, what does listening to your body mean? For example, if you get up in the morning and you have a killer headache and you're thinking, Oh, I'm not feeling like I can go to work today, this is your this is your body saying, Hey, something's up. I don't know what, maybe you had a bad night's sleep, maybe you're dehydrated, maybe you're getting a cold or a flu, something's going on. I need, I need help. So any kind of pain that you might be experiencing or miss period or condition that you kind of can't beat, your your body's telling you something and it's saying, Hey, listen to me. And it'll usually do it quite like quietly at first. So maybe it's just a dull headache. And if you kind of just take a panel and get back to work and you know, push it down, then it's gonna get louder and louder and louder. So you might have, you might experience like all of a all of a sudden, you might say, my back is just it's gone out. And it's not that that happened all of a sudden. That's been happening probably for months, and your body's been saying, hey, you know, watch out, things, you know, something's not doing, something's not feeling right. And if we don't address it when we hear these whispers, then it's going to get worse later on in life. So listening to your body means when there is pain or when there is something that's not feeling right, not to just ignore it and soldier on, but to stop and think, what am I doing in my life that's causing me? So can I give you an I give you an example of this? Because I have this firsthand. So about a year ago, I had. Some pretty like moving house, a lot of stress was happening in my life. And I was waking up with panic attacks. And I've never had panic attacks in my life. Yeah, I was waking up and I was in the middle of my hallway, not sure why I was there. And oh, heart was racing. And I was waking up thinking, what's going on? The next morning I was groggy. I couldn't, I was so tired. And I didn't know why I was having these panic attacks. And when I really sat back and thought, okay, what's my body trying to tell me? What's my body trying to communicate with me? I had to really be honest with myself about how stressful I thought this situation was. And it was, it was, you know, along with like work and kids and moving, it, the stresses of life, and then, you know, everything else that's going on in the world that you kind of carry on your shoulders. There was a lot going on. So I just made small changes. I would get up in the morning, I would go outside, I'd get the sunlight into my eyes. I started coming home and working on my mindset because I was eating all the right things. I was exercising, I was journaling, but nothing was working. And I had to really, I had to really address what was stressing me in my life and re-kind of retell myself a story of how I can start to do things better. And then over time, my sleep got better and things, you know, things are now back to normal. So I think when you have an experience where your body's kind of yelling at you, we can't ignore it. We do need to kind of we have to dig deeper. And often dig digging deeper is perhaps, you know, yeah, working through some things that we don't even really want to work through.

SPEAKER_00: 22:36

It really is. It's a great segue to go to my next question. We're gonna discuss at length about the stress of podcasting. People don't realize how how difficult it is to do this. I know that there's some outliers, and I won't uh label them, but I'll say that there's a lot of people out here who just they're sitting in mom's basement and they'll just hit record, and they just expect millions of people to listen to what they have to say. It's not really realistic, and sometimes they don't even prepare, sometimes they don't even shave, they just don't care how they look, they just want to just go and talk and shoot the breeze about whatever the topic is, and you know, if they're doing well, I'm not mad at them, but you know, there's a lot more to it than this, and in doing what you have been doing, there's a lot of emotional stuff that that that happens, it doesn't always get on camera. We talked about it a little bit, but how's first of all how's your podcast been going, health after 30? And what are you learning about yourself in the process through all of this podcasting and stress and stuff with us?

SPEAKER_04: 23:44

The learning curves, God, they're big, aren't they?

SPEAKER_01: 23:46

Great, isn't it?

SPEAKER_04: 23:48

Well, you know, I I mean, I enjoy it. I think because for me, again, I feel like I've got purpose behind it. Okay, and I think that's what you also bring to the world as well. You know, it's like bringing people, like sharing purpose. And I think this is a very big motivating factor. And I think for me, it's also sharing information about holistic health for women. And I think, yeah, I don't know. For me, that's just a platform where I can do it, but it is relentless. And a lot of the time, I mean, anyone who's also an entrepreneur and is just putting stuff out there, I feel like you put yourself out there and life just kind of slaps you on the face. And over the years, you keep showing up and you keep, you know, staying strong. But now I just go out into the world and I'm expecting to be hit back. Do you know what I mean? And we also talked about this. Like you're you're a sport, you're you're into sport, and I love that sport trains, like it mentally trains you for that. You know, when you're doing exercise and you can't do it, and you're like, I can't do another rep or I can't do another sprint, but you push yourself anyway. I feel like being in a pod, being in the podcaster, you know, working, even being a parent to some extent. It's just you're pushing, you're constantly pushing yourself mentally. Um, and I I think that's perhaps some form of growth. And you know, usually you it goes it goes in waves. We talked about this as well, this uninformed optimism. It's like this is going to be great, to uninformed pessimism, to like I can't do this to hit rough bottom. The 99% where you think I want to quit. And then something happens where you, you know, you start to learn, you grow, you learn from your experiences, your mistakes, and then you make that upward, okay. I now have informed, you know, optimism. So it's it's it's definitely in waves. And I think as long as you have something to share that's that's worth sharing, then I think I think it's I think you're on the right, you're on the right path. And that's why I kind of stand behind it myself as well. I feel like I've got something to share. So I yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 25:53

No, you have more than you do. You definitely got something to share. Yeah, that that that that journey is it's a real thing for uh those of the podcast. But if you're not familiar with that, you just listen to us, please understand that those outliers I was talking about earlier, they're in the minority. There are a lot of people out here, like Dr. Lana and myself, and many others that are in my uh circle. We are fighting for something that matters. We have a reason for what we're doing, and there's a purpose behind it. Like, like Dr. Lana mentioned earlier about the about purpose and the importance of it. We got something to say, and like she said, if we have something that's worthwhile sharing, that's what keeps us going because there's many days where we say, you know what, why am I doing this? I could be doing so many other things. Why am I not quitting right now? Honestly, I know it doesn't sound very healthy, but I'm gonna just be open and transparent. I always am with everything we do on this show or any of our brand of shows, this happens more often than I'd like to admit that we I think about cashing it all in. Like, yeah, I'm I'm not sure about hitting the market. Am I making a difference? Am I am I impacting? Because it's not just about sports, it's about my coaching and some other things that I do as well. But I'm like, am I am I making a difference here? But like I said, purpose, you know, it's up and down.

SPEAKER_04: 27:13

So uh yeah, and I think if you impact one person's life, you know, that's that I mean that's that's kind of it, you know. And you also have to learn from experience because if you never had started, you know, if you had never had started, they call me Mr. You, you would never be where you are. We would never even be in this conversation. Only through this action of doing it does it build. And I always like to think if I if I can see my life as a movie and I know what's gonna happen at the end and it's got a happy ending, like even though it's hard now, I kind of think, yeah, I don't want to, I don't want to think like I'm just optimistic, but I feel like, you know, if I can see and I know it's gonna be a good ending, then I feel like I've also got something to work towards. So that's what I kind of tell myself. Like I'm in the middle of the story, there's ups, there's downs, but it's gonna be good and I'm just gonna keep, you know, where energy goes, energy flows. And if I put more work into the things that I love, then that's exactly where more energy is gonna come from. So that's kind of my that's great.

SPEAKER_00: 28:17

I'm I'm holding on to that, right? I like that idea. What was your most challenging moment as a podcaster, if you can share that?

SPEAKER_04: 28:25

Well, this is my first time going live. So maybe that no, but I think um, you know, it's also finding a voice and also in meeting meeting people. Um so on the health after 30, because it's kind of niched with like female's health, I've had conversations with with pretty big people. And actually, you're called you're calling me a doctor. I'm not a doctor, just so you know, like naturopath nutritionist, but I'm not a doctor. But I've had I've had some people on the show who are like big movers and shakers, and I've had um, like, oh, you know, you get you get like jittery juice, some sort of like stardom shock. And it's just in the end, everyone's just people, everyone's just people doing their thing, got something to share, and I think uh getting through those challenges was actually quite rewarding, I think, in the end.

SPEAKER_00: 29:10

Yeah, I no, I that's I love that, I love that. All right, so now obviously your family knows you're a nutritionist, they know what you care about. You try to implement it, I'm sure, into their meals, their breakfasts, lunches, and dinners, and you make sure the bags are packed with good things, I would I would think. How did your family respond to that? So I know there's people might think just automatically they don't think about you know any kind of pushback, any kind of resistance. But how did your family respond? How do they first respond to your uh nutritional emphasis, if you will? And how are you responding now? Can you share that?

SPEAKER_04: 29:47

My my family is in like my parents, my extended family. The people in my house, the poor people, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 29:55

How would it happen?

SPEAKER_04: 29:59

So, I mean, my partner's known me for quite a long time, so he's kind of been with me through the whole learning process of when I was studying, so he kind of learned with me. My poor children have just been pushed into my life, you know? Okay, and uh, I mean, I have to say, I've I've this has been a learning journey for myself because you know, when I first had children, I thought, you know what? I don't they don't need to eat sugar. Why does a child need to eat sugar? It doesn't serve them any purpose except for it tastes good and they'll want more. Um, so I just didn't give my first child any sugar until it was around three. I know, and I was like, you know, we eat healthy, they'll learn to eat healthy. That's not true. He went to his first birthday party. He was he went, he took every single Smarty off that birthday cake and sat in the corner and shoved them in my house. And that was the biggest light bulb moment for me. I realized that um something was incredibly wrong. There was a like there was a relationship with food that he I had done something wrong. And this is actually the biggest, I've done it since then. I've done a lot of learning about this, about how to teach children how to eat. And that's actually how the same, it's the same for adults as well. It's it's not about the broccoli, it's not about the vegetables, it's about the habits that we have, um, our relationship with food, how we choose to eat it, um, what we choose to eat, but it's not about having a strict diet. Um, there's all foods out there. You're gonna go to the shopping center, you're gonna go to the shops, and it's packed with food. And you know, we can't deprive ourselves from potato chips or ice cream. It's it's delicious. We love it. We you know, we celebrate that kind of stuff.

SPEAKER_00: 31:35

You don't understand.

SPEAKER_04: 31:36

You know, yeah, and you know, a lot of people think healthy is like I'm never eating any sugar and I'm I'm I'm not eating, I'm just I'm just eating vegetables and meat, and that's all I'm doing. But that's not we need to be able to enjoy life. We need to be able to have birthday cake, we need to be able to come home, have a glass of wine, eat a tub of ice cream for dinner if we want to do that.

SPEAKER_01: 31:56

That's a lot. It is.

SPEAKER_04: 32:00

But you know, it's it, yeah, it's the it's the habits that we have. We don't want to do that every day. And we, you know, so we need to find out, okay, how often are we doing these things? Why are we doing these things? Are we having a stress day coming home and just wanting to sit on the couch and binge? That's not it's not the food's fault, it's not the food's problem. It's that we can't adapt with our daily stresses. So we need to kind of address what's going on because the food will kind of always be there. But yeah, and that's what I learned mostly with the kids as well is um I could feed them all the healthy foods, but they're gonna go out and be 16 at some stage, they're gonna have their own money. And if they don't understand how to have things in moderation and in proportion, then I feel like I wouldn't have done a good job. So a lot of my practice actually has switched. I don't do any restrictions. So I help people without restrictions. I don't restrict sugar. We drink coffee, we drink alcohol. We need to learn how to have good habits. That's in essence what it is.

SPEAKER_00: 33:01

Wow, good. People are going to be following you after this episode. They're gonna be like, right, how to do this. This is really interesting. I love this. I love this.

SPEAKER_04: 33:10

It takes time, it takes time.

SPEAKER_00: 33:12

I love this. If you have any questions, of course, please drop in the live chat. We'd love to hear from you and let uh Alana answer those questions for you. Now, you mentioned something that a father said to you a while back, and I love the idea. I've heard it before in different uh iterations, but if you thought thought about health as well. Explain to me what that meant then and what that means to you today. Yeah. That health is wealth.

SPEAKER_04: 33:35

That's such a nice question. What did it mean then? As I was a child, so my dad's a chiropractor, he kind of brought us up in this in his idea of health, you know, like yeah, health, chiropractic health, and everything was kind of health related. And he would always say health is wealth. And as a kid, a healthy little kid, you're like, what does that even mean? I was like, you are an old man, what do you know? Um, so as a kid, that that didn't really mean anything. I'm it, but he just really drilled it into us um over the years, and now I've realized as I get older, as we all hit past 30 and the knee starts to hurt, and you know, conditions start to pop up that if we get to the end of our days, you know, imagine imagine yourself, Yusuf. Like if you're 80, would you like what kind of 80-year-old or 90-year-old or 100-year-old do you want to be? You know, the type that's mentally active still, that can move around, or just the type that's in a vegetated state, you know, like what would you prefer to have like all the money and be in a vegetated state, or perhaps not all the money that you had ever wanted, but physically fit and mentally still fit. You know, what what would we what would you prefer? So I think for what he tried to really hone in was wealth isn't just monetary, like our health is what's going to carry us through. And so long as you're healthy, you were able to do the whole monetary game because you can, you know. So I think for him, that's what he was trying to really hone in. I guess I'd never really thought about that. But yeah, I think that's what he was.

SPEAKER_00: 35:08

And now and now, and now that you uh have uh some years of experience under your belt, what does it what does it mean to you now? What's health and wealth mean like to you personally?

SPEAKER_04: 35:18

It may, yeah. I mean, it's it for me, it means A, not being hard on myself if I'm not ideally healthy. This is again the no restrictions. It's uh it's about enjoying life. Um, but I think at the focus of my life, I put my health first. So if I, you know, for example, I love to binge watch Netflix, sure. But I know that doing that all the time, like it's just it doesn't serve me. It makes me tired, it makes me groggy. And actually, in the daytime, if I'm hooked on a series, I will often think about the storyline in the day. Like it consumes my day. And just as an example, you know, I when I don't watch a lot of TV, that brain power, I can use it for creative things. I am not tired in the morning, so I get up feeling energized, so I have the actual effort, the energy to have the effort to go outside. And this, so it has a cascading effect. So I try to make lifestyle choices or lifestyle decisions that are going to positively impact my health because now, you know, I'm 38, things aren't bad, things aren't, you know, like I'm I'm fine, I'm okay, but is it gonna stay like that? I don't know. We don't know what's gonna happen. So I'm just trying to, I guess, yeah, align with what's healthy in a relaxed way as well. I'm not one of those people who are really on, you know, there's there's a guy in the States, I can't remember his name, but he's trying to reverse his aging. You know, he's doing he's sleeping, he's taking all these things, and he's he's I don't know, like 40 and cellular, he's the age of an 18-year-old. And um, yeah, that's I don't know, that's not life for me. We need a bit of a balance.

SPEAKER_00: 37:02

I I I like the science, but it's not life. I don't I don't wanna uh I don't I don't want to play God in that regard. Uh but you're from Australia, and we now for me, just just being honest, that it's not I don't I don't think I'm closed minded or anything, but for me, growing up Australi Australia I can think about was crocodile dundee. That's all that I know about Australia. Now it's evolved a little bit. Now we got uh what's the guy's name? Sorry, he passed away recently, but Divo and I think I think his daughter's name is Bindy, but uh yeah, that's his daughter. Yeah, that that that's my that's my full understanding of of Australia. I don't know a whole lot about it. I know you they have rainforests today, right?

SPEAKER_04: 37:50

Rainforests, yeah, in Australia.

SPEAKER_00: 37:52

Okay, so I know I know a little bit about Australia more than what I thought, but for you, what's your favorite food from Australia? That's the one that you solely miss. Like I have to have it when I when I when I go back. What's that food?

SPEAKER_04: 38:02

So that's a really good question. I'm gonna answer that in a very long-winded way because you know how you said you think about Crocodile Dundee or Steve Owen. I think when a lot of people think about Australians, they might also think about the beach and perhaps like a blonde-haired, blue-eyed surfer. I've like you can see, like, I'm not blonde hair or blue-eyed. I my my mom's Chinese, my dad's Scottish, and like Australia is it's kind of like America, it's a mixing pot. Like, of course, we've got these blonde-haired and blue-eyed, you know, the British colonizers. Um, but we've got Serbians, Italians, we've got Chinese, Japanese, Koreans. It's such a intense mixing pot there. Indians, all types of like we have everyone there. So when you say like Australia, like we're a young country, we're 270 years old, we we have barbecues. I think maybe that's what people would think of the traditional Australian meal. Like, you know, the saying, chuck another shrimp on the Barbie. Like we don't call them shrimps, we call them prawns.

SPEAKER_00: 39:04

In uh popular culture, so yeah, but I think so.

SPEAKER_04: 39:09

I don't yeah, when I think of going home to eat, I think of Japanese food, Chinese food, Italian food. I don't think of Australian food.

unknown: 39:18

Okay.

SPEAKER_04: 39:19

When it's about going home, the first when I go home, the first thing that I would grab, because Australians are very snobby in this, they love their coffee, their coffee snobs. And if you go to a cafe, they've got all different types of this, that, and then the other. Like, yeah. So for me, just going home and getting a very nice cup of barista coffee, soy soy latte, is um, yeah, my my there's a specific brand of coffee that you're talking about? No, I think just the way in which it's made. Um sorry, I'm gonna say it's straight. Like I'm not the I'm not the coffee snob, but I I enjoy the snobbery of it because it means I get a good coffee from it.

SPEAKER_00: 39:59

I I respect that. I don't think I'm a snob either, but I'm very particular about what I like.

SPEAKER_01: 40:03

So exactly what you will.

SPEAKER_00: 40:06

All right, so you're in Germany now and you're adopting the the culture there. We'll get a little bit more into the culture in a moment, but favorite food in Germany. I'm a conversation that was uh a ship at one time, and in my in my training, my learning, I learned world culture, so I made different foods. It was really hard for me to find something from Germany that I enjoy making in my uh in my education. What's your favorite food from Germany? Because you've been there for a little bit now. You've obviously you have to eat what they have. Yeah, what have you found that is your favorite now?

SPEAKER_04: 40:42

So things that I never really thought about. Okay, so this is gonna sound bizarre, but a potato in Australia tastes very different to a potato here. Like potatoes, yeah. I I I can't, maybe it's the starch or maybe it's the way that they're grown. But the potatoes here, if they're cooked, like they're like gold nuggets. They're delicious. They're so I I gold nuggets.

SPEAKER_00: 41:04

This is again.

SPEAKER_04: 41:10

Yeah, it's delicious. I find the German meals to be quite heavy, saucy. If you think of a German food, it's like potato with perhaps meat, like a meaty and like a saucy meat and then red cabbage or something. And yeah, I mean, this is okay every now and then, but uh I don't uh I don't eat it too often because I find it quite heavy, to be honest.

SPEAKER_00: 41:32

That makes it, that makes it, but the potatoes you like though, that's your favorite.

SPEAKER_04: 41:36

Good. I mean, I can't just say, but yeah, I just yeah, I do love potatoes, I have to say. I do. And also like sauerkraut. So sauerkraut from a health point of view, you know, it's a it's good for the gut microbiome. Um, and that's just something that's naturally found here because they have cabbage and they have so much cabbage, they try to eat seasonal here, and uh they ferment it, and it's also really delicious.

SPEAKER_00: 41:58

I grew up having I grew up having those on my hot dog, so I'm I'm very, very partial to the to the to the crowd. So I totally get that. Could you share what a typical meal is in a German household? Can you share what that looks like?

SPEAKER_04: 42:10

Okay, so you know, in America, do you guys have hot dinners?

SPEAKER_00: 42:14

Of course.

SPEAKER_04: 42:15

Yeah, they don't do that here.

SPEAKER_00: 42:17

No, no, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait a minute. How is how are you eating the food? It's cold, it's room temperature. What's happening?

SPEAKER_04: 42:24

It's they call it aven broad, it's like evening bread. It's um like if you go to a German household, so they have hot lunches. They'll have because yeah, they people go home for lunch. Well, they used to, it's not so much anymore, but people used to go home. Schools finish at 1 p.m. here, the kids would go home and eat lunch, and then the day would be over. And so they have it's very natural for people them to have warm lunches here, and then at dinner they have bread with cheese, liverwurst, perhaps some um vegetables as well, sauerkraut. Yeah, it's um is that that's normal.

SPEAKER_00: 43:00

That's personal, but is that happening in your household? Is that what you're doing? Have you adopted it?

SPEAKER_04: 43:05

Depends who's cooking, depends or depends who's depends who's on dinner duty, right?

SPEAKER_00: 43:09

So I would never what are you doing? What's what's Olaf doing? I w I want to know.

SPEAKER_04: 43:14

So Olaf would probably put together an album broad because a it's easy at the end of the day, it's just an easy, simple, uh simple thing to do.

SPEAKER_00: 43:22

It's also what's that he's putting together? What's that called?

SPEAKER_04: 43:26

Avon broad. So the evening bread.

SPEAKER_00: 43:28

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_04: 43:29

I, on the other hand, I don't know. I'm I'm a bit I'm a bit um because I am working with nutrition every day. The first thing I'm thinking about when I'm putting a meal together is okay, how am I going to make this nutritious? Um so I have certain cuisines I like, just having a Chinese mom, of course, I like a bit more of the Chinese stuff, but I I'm a bit of a throw-together person. What do we have in the house and how can I throw it together to make a nutrition, nutritious meal? Yeah, that's that's so I can run you through it if you'd like.

SPEAKER_00: 43:59

I want to give you just one example.

SPEAKER_04: 44:01

Okay, well, let me okay. So, for example, if if you think of this as a plate, if that's your plate, yeah, I'm looking for like this much as uh a protein.

SPEAKER_00: 44:11

So let's say it's that's what I do. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 44:15

Yeah, great.

SPEAKER_00: 44:15

So let maybe I want to know what's on the plate.

SPEAKER_04: 44:18

Yeah, yeah, exactly. So protein. So let's just say chicken. Last night it was it was roasted chicken. And then I want to have half the plate of vegetables. That's like so you know, this is half the plate. So this is as colorful as possible. We can have beetroots, we can have carrots, depending on the year, because it's quite seasonal. If you eat seasonal, it's fresh and you have a high nutrient count. It can also be salads, you know, half the plate. And then up here on that side, that would be your starchy, so your your potatoes, or perhaps your grain, or your bread, or pasta, whatever it is. So, yeah, for example, last night it was chicken with um carrots and salad, and then potatoes, and that's that's a meal. And I had planned that I didn't really throw that together, but that would be a meal.

SPEAKER_00: 45:04

That tastes like golden nuggets.

SPEAKER_04: 45:05

I I got I gotta I gotta dig down into I like I like potatoes.

SPEAKER_00: 45:12

Like I gotta watch out with that. I understand that, but yeah, when it when that when that happens, you should I think I know where you're going. Yeah, golden nuggets. Well, I'm I better I better keep moving on.

SPEAKER_04: 45:27

You need to think like seasonally, like that when they're freshly picked and like just you know, they haven't been stored for a long time, they're fresh out of the earth and cooked butter and soap.

SPEAKER_00: 45:39

Oh, this is like a good idea for me at this time of the morning to talk about this is not good, but let's keep let's keep on moving though. But I want to ask you a question if you were not in the nutrition field, and we talked about this a little bit, and I always ask for my guests. If you were not in the field that you're in, if you would you if you were not doing health after 30 as a as a podcast and you were not doing nutrition, what would you be doing?

SPEAKER_03: 46:02

Hands down, carpentry, carpentry, carpentry.

SPEAKER_00: 46:06

It's every time I hear you say that I'm for it. Why why carpenter of all the things that you probably could be a wizard doing? Why how we get there?

SPEAKER_04: 46:18

You know, the satisfaction, it's like creating something and using what you created. I find that there's just like a certain satisfaction to that to be able to make something and then use it. I just, you know, like if you needed a photo frame, I'm just gonna put one together and then you have or or I want to put shelves up, you can just create that. I don't there's there's a certain satisfaction of creation, and it's more than just art, you know. Like if you were to draw a drawing, it's beautiful, you can hang it somewhere. But I feel like when it's functional, it's just got that, and also wood's just beautiful. I don't know, like the texture of the texture of it.

SPEAKER_00: 46:56

At first, I thought it was interesting and not really weird, but more creative. And well, we both both creators, but she creative in that way that you're describing. She would do make those kind of projects, and she would do that, and she'll have fun with it, and she'll enjoy it. She'd look, look, I'm looking at it. Okay, cool, that's great. You know, that's not that's not my kind of creative. I'm more in the writing, creating musical. I was gonna say, yeah, creating music. I'm not, I want to put I want to put a bite together, I want to put a cabinet together, I don't want to do any of that.

SPEAKER_04: 47:29

Yeah, maybe maybe it's the maybe it's the hand, maybe it's the physicalness of it because the things that you suggested then, like writing, making music, that's also creation, but it's uh it's it's using the mental capacity.

SPEAKER_00: 47:41

Yeah, and sometimes when they send you the cabinets, the instructions are not good, so that really bothers me.

SPEAKER_04: 47:50

Putting if we buy something from my key and my partner is also like, I don't want to do it. I'm like, let me get in there.

SPEAKER_00: 47:54

Oh, I know you I know you're good. NASA, yeah. I understand it about you now. So this is this is really awesome. This is really awesome. Explain for us really quickly a day in the life of your business in what you do. Tell me what a a day looks like for you from start to finish. How would that if you can explain that?

SPEAKER_04: 48:09

Yeah, so you're probably the same. Like it's it's a lot of different moving parts in a business. So I see people one-on-one, like I see clients one-on-one, I create a podcast. I've I'm trying to be social on acting, I'm trying to be active on social media. Um, there's as well as the business side of it. So also I send out newsletters to people, I do treatment notes, like there's just so many creating what the business is as well, working on myself and my mindset. So the average day, I can't tell you exactly what happens in the average day, but my day is broken up into three parts.

SPEAKER_02: 48:45

Okay.

SPEAKER_04: 48:45

But I let you know, we've got we've got the like 12 hours, you know, six to six, let's say.

SPEAKER_01: 48:51

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_04: 48:52

I um I wake up, kids, school, you know, done.

SPEAKER_01: 48:58

Right.

SPEAKER_04: 49:02

This is my creative time. I realize that if I get up and check my emails in the morning, it just drains me. I put like all my energy into communicating with people and then I'm I'm done. And then the after lunch, I just feel completely depleted. So I take the morning time to do creative. So perhaps I'm creating ideas for the podcast, or perhaps I'm creating content for Instagram, or perhaps I'm creating how my business is going to go. Um, and this can also sometimes be also my client notes as well. So putting energy into creating um a treatment protocol for my clients. Then it's lunchtime, and then after that, that's all the email stuff. That's the getting back to people, organizing turn like uh organizing um appointments, stuff like that. And then school pickup, get the kids, and usually it's a hectic afternoon, and then the in the evening, that's my learning time. So I'll often read before I go to bed. Um, and yeah, it's just so I can kind of structure my day because if I wake up and I'm like, what am I doing today? Then I check emails and then I listen to a podcast because I want to learn something, and then I feel like I have to plan content and it just gets a bit too much. So I have these three blocks now and I dedicate time into these three blocks.

SPEAKER_00: 50:18

Okay. And where are your appointments in this in this block of time when you have appointments? Where does that is that after lunch?

SPEAKER_04: 50:25

Uh no. So appointment, so right now, for example, our appointment is one is one o'clock, a social appointment. And I also catch up with my friends socially usually after lunch as well. Um, but no, if I'm with clients, I'll do it in the morning because that's also yeah, it's a very um, it's a very engaging, intense process to work with someone and try and go through their whole health history. So I like to do it when I'm alert and on. So it'll usually be the morning as well.

SPEAKER_00: 50:51

Okay. All right, okay. This is really good. I really enjoy you doing this and thank you. Everybody just listening and watching us. This is pretty awesome. Okay, I have one more question. Uh well, I have a question each about where you are now and where you came from. Uh, we had a great conversation about uh Germany. Uh, you you mentioned the horrible history, honestly. It's really hard to shake it when you mention Germany. Certain images come to mind, a perception of the country as a whole, if you will. But how would you explain the culture and the current state of affairs to somebody who may be curious, who may be listening right now, who thinks uh about thinks something about Germany that they may not actually know. I would share the story with you about my little sister. When she found out that I was in or moving to South Carolina, her perception of South Carolina was immediately thinking people with straw hats and people riding around on tractors. You know, she was thinking almost nothing like that at all. This is uh it's actually a city here.

SPEAKER_03: 51:54

Yeah, that's cars.

SPEAKER_00: 51:56

Yeah, there's cars, the cars on the road, not tractors, the horses don't ride on the road, it's not 1809. You know what I'm saying? But they you know, she she thought that. But when I think people think about Germany, they may have a perception about what Germany is like. What's the current state of affairs there? What's the culture like that? Kind of share that real quickly with us if you can.

SPEAKER_04: 52:13

I would love like what's your what's your idea of Germany? I'd love, I'd love to hear.

SPEAKER_00: 52:17

Like, what I don't I don't have the uh the the image that I have before I can I read. Um I I follow up on uh world affairs, so I don't think about Nazi Germany anymore. I used to, and when I hear Germany, like oh, it's automatically that. Even when I was in culinary school, I was making a food, I'm like, okay, I didn't have that perception because I kind of got got past it as much as you can get past it because it's not a very nice history. But you know, for me, I'm I'm just thinking about people who are maybe a bit buttoned up. Yeah, I'm I'm I'm I'm seeing people who are maybe really organized, really smart and intelligent, and really uh uh inventive and hands-on. I don't know what they're working towards or anything, but that's just how I viewed it. But I don't know.

SPEAKER_04: 53:10

No, absolutely. Like I love how you said um very um what word did you say? No, but not yeah, I mean button up, but like also just very um oh what word did you say this? And I just missed it. You said a particular word of like they're very organized, I think that's what you said. They're so organized. Oh my gosh, it all works because it's organized. And you know, I think when people think about Germany, they think, and also because of what we see on TV, the Germans are always the baddies, the night, you know, and of course, like the history, the Nazis were the baddies, like don't get me wrong, but still in TVs, you'll see the German, like they're never, it's never like a friendly German, like he's never the quarterback. It's like German kind of comes and he's always the stern one or the evil one, or the yeah, and so I think we still have the idea of that. Um, and you know, yeah, they're they're rule followers, and they they do follow rules. And I think that's probably why it happened. I think in any actually in any country, having, you know, Hitler, for example, fascist author authoritarian, that like any population can probably be molded to think a certain way. I think for Germany at the time, they had just got out of the first world, like this terrible things had happened and they needed to kind of unify and they kind of came together and they got a bit, they got in the wrong situation. And then the Holocaust and the Second World War. So like it all kind of was a really bad outcome for them. And I think they still carry a lot of trauma. They have inherited trauma. So that's interesting. That was happening already, you know, 50 years ago, 80 years ago, I think, with the Holocaust. And people in my generation, like they still they're shamed. You know, I remember when Olaf came to Australia, they were kind of joking about like Karl Hitler and stuff like that. And the Australians joke about it, but for Olaf, that was he was like, oh my gosh, what are these people like dramatic? You can't say that, you can't do that. Um, and so yeah, and it's still there's a lot of yeah, inherited trauma, and they still carry a lot of guilt and a lot of shame. And so, but at the same time, they're very aware. So at the moment, just with the political situation, there's a lot of they would call it like um a neo-Nazi party kind of rising because there's a lot of immigrants. Angela Merkel that didn't there's almost an from Syria and then from Ukraine. We've had almost, I think, a million people added to the population. Wow, that's what uh yeah, there's like a neo-Nazi party kind of rising. Um, and a lot of the Germans are now saying, hey, that's not okay, that party's not okay, depending on what side. So it's just there's a lot of turbulence happening here right now because a lot of trauma, yeah. I think past trauma with like new things that are happening. Yeah, I don't know really where I stand on it all, and I don't want to bring too many politics into it, but it's yeah, there's yeah. But um, but if you strip all of that away, and I think the reason that I'm living in Germany still now is because the the yeah, the people are organized, and it's great to be organized. I've got my um holidays for 2026 planned. Like what?

SPEAKER_00: 56:20

I would never do I am not there.

SPEAKER_04: 56:24

Yeah, I am not there either, but my partner, uh holiday planner, he's yeah, like not there whatsoever. Okay, it's just yeah, very planned and very organized and very structured, and I kind of like that. And I, you know, in the darkness of winter, because it gets dark here in the winter and it's cold and it's depressing, and they just go from being not so friendly to even less friendly. And uh Olaf always says to me, you know, in the darkest winters, that's where the best philosophers and poets and scientists were created. So that's also what Germans give.

SPEAKER_00: 56:58

Um sprint.

SPEAKER_04: 57:02

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00: 57:04

When you're happy.

SPEAKER_04: 57:09

But um, they're also like, yeah, there's a nice there's a nice analogy. They say that Germans are like watermelons and Australians or Americans are like peaches. So Australians and Americans, they're quite, you know, soft on the outside. We're very like it's very easy to have conversation with us, we're very sweet. Um, but to really kind of really get to know someone and be able to really um tap into like really how they're feeling, it's quite hard. I don't know, that's what we say about Australians. Whereas with Germans, they're quite hard on the outside, but if you get through, they're completely sweet and they're lovely people, but they have an outside.

SPEAKER_00: 57:48

Okay. Well, next to the last question is gonna be about Australia. You share some feelings with me in our pre-production meeting about your perception that that no one cares about Australia. Made me kind of sad. I'm like, okay, why why why why do you feel that way? Why do you think nobody cares about Australia?

SPEAKER_01: 58:03

Is that what I said? Is that what I said? No one cares about it.

SPEAKER_00: 58:06

Yeah, I and I carried it with me since that conversation. I'm like, man, I care. I'm not doing anything, but I mean, I I don't I don't I don't not care about Australia. I mean, so why do you why do you from your perception, why do you think that it's like that?

SPEAKER_04: 58:22

Well, I mean, I think Australia's at the end of the world, right? Like, no one really cares about our economy or our political system. Oh man. You do know what I mean? I think you know, your politics like the your the the last election, that was everywhere. That in Australia, it was on the news, it was ever it's not even our politics. And of course it affects the world, but everyone's hearing about it.

SPEAKER_00: 58:47

Like are you guys kind of independent? Is that what you is that what you mean?

SPEAKER_04: 58:50

You you're not actually with anybody kind of colony of um we're still we're still in the world, so we're the we're still a colony of um of uh uh Great Britain. So but we're just I just feel like we're we're just kind of at the end of nowhere. And then I feel in Australia people are very happy, they're just very happy, very content and um independent and physically they're kind of you know, geographically they're independent. Um, but I think, you know, there are certain things like there's a there's a a mine, because there's a lot of mining, a lot of coal mining in Australia. And I think there's something like a mine the size of Texas in the middle of Australia, and no one like a massive mine, and it's just it's in the middle of Australia, and no one really talks about it.

SPEAKER_01: 59:38

Um at all.

SPEAKER_04: 59:41

Exactly. Or, you know, as I said, like the the Great Barry Reef, which was you know one of the seven wonders of the world, it's dead. And you know, we and now we want to like build ports there and harbors there, and it's just I just wish that perhaps, and maybe from living in Germany, they're very they're a very um like they're very politically active here. They stand up for what they believe and they put their foot down. And I think this is because of how they've been burnt in the past. And I just wish that perhaps Australians were a bit more like that. They kind of stood up perhaps a bit more for what they want.

SPEAKER_00: 1:00:12

Um this is not my question. Can I have one more question for you because of what you said, and I have another question, but just oh, I have a comment. Perhaps you should think about writing a book about Australia.

SPEAKER_04: 1:00:26

What Australians can learn from Germans.

SPEAKER_00: 1:00:28

No, I'm just talking about Australia, period. What's going on, what people don't know about. It would be enlightening because I didn't know about two of the things you mentioned. I know about the Barrier Reef, but I didn't know that they were essentially dead, like you said, and the comb. I had no idea. So there's a there's a lot. It's not like it comes on the local news out here.

SPEAKER_04: 1:00:51

Well, no, I mean our news i isn't really globally either. So yeah, I mean, I think there's a lot going on. I don't even uh that's just scratching the surface of what I I know, I know it is.

SPEAKER_00: 1:01:02

You're not gonna have to have those kind of conversations offline, have to hit you with some some. Some text and hear more about Australia. As a matter of fact, I'm very interested. I think we're going to do that. I'm going to stay about that and give more insight from me because I I may not be able to use it, but just for my own understanding, because I didn't know that that was going on. So I'll do that. But last question for you. But if you can give it right to somebody who has heard about those fad diets and quick fixes and other counterfeit options about how to be healthy and whole, what kind of advice would you give them that if they're listening right now?

SPEAKER_04: 1:01:39

Yeah. I feel like this also that's a question that needs to be talked about more often because everyone wants to be on a diet to get healthy. Diets don't work. If diets worked, the dieting industry wouldn't be a thing. So we need to think, and especially if weight is the is the goal for going on a diet, which sometimes it is, 95% of people who go on a diet will rebound back to their original. So we know we know it doesn't work. So the question is, what does work? How can we how can we get healthy? How can we feel well? And it's uh it's it's the boring stuff. It's so not sexy.

SPEAKER_02: 1:02:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 1:02:24

We need to make sure that we're sleeping well. We need to make sure that we're moving, we need to make sure that you know it's okay to eat all the foods, but we just need to think about moderation, how much we're eating of them, proportion, what's our 80 and what's our 20, and our variety, how much different foods are we eating? These are all three important factors. And then we need to just care about when we think about our overall health, how's our how's our mental health? Like, how are we going? How do we check in with ourselves? How are we feeling? I might be feeling physically well, but emotionally am I feeling okay? Is that a is that my body trying to tell me something, perhaps? So it's really hard to just be like, don't diet, and then what to do, because it's actually it's it takes it's a process, and there's so many things out there telling you this is the right thing, that's the right thing, you know, go drink this smoothie, take this supplement, it strip all that away. Yeah, everything you need is exactly yourself. You have to think of yourself as a seed, right? A seed knows how to grow. If you put it in the ground and give it water in the right environment, an oak will grow in like an acorn will grow into an oak tree. Your body, your health is the same, it knows how to thrive, it knows how to be well, it just needs to be put in the right environment.

SPEAKER_00: 1:03:38

So that's really good. Well, I thank you so much for enlightening our audience and sharing a bit of your story and your experience from Australia and Germany. We all learned a lot. I know I did. Thank you for sharing with us. And if you can, let everybody know where they can find your work, whether it be your business and your podcast. And also, as a matter of fact, before after you after you do that, when we go off air, in the in the uh comment section under the episode on our YouTube channel, share all your information there. Because sometimes it gets lost in translation during a live episode, but can you share all you know your website, where whatever information you have, resources you have, put them in the comment section so everybody that who's listening can go find it very easily. But let everybody know where they can find your work and your podcast and your business.

SPEAKER_04: 1:04:27

Yeah, guys, I've got I've got free resources on my website. So, for exactly what you were asking for, then like how do we do it? How do we get started? Check out the resources, alanaboneman.com. I'll put it in the notes. Health after 30 is the podcast, and naturopath.alana is uh the Instagram account.

SPEAKER_00: 1:04:44

I just realized you're on Apple Podcast, right?

SPEAKER_04: 1:04:47

I need to streamline those, I think.

SPEAKER_00: 1:04:49

Okay, you're on Apple Podcast, right?

SPEAKER_04: 1:04:51

Yeah, Apple Podcasts.

SPEAKER_00: 1:04:53

Also, awesome. Well, thank you again. This has been fantastic. I can't wait to hear more from you and what you're doing. Maybe if you are gonna write a book, that'd be awesome. You can have you talk about it here.

SPEAKER_01: 1:05:03

About Australia. Right, about Australia.

SPEAKER_00: 1:05:05

I mean, you got a lot, you got a lot to share that people are not hearing about. So I say that's valuable. Yeah, listen, wherever you are and have you listening to become Mr. You and this one-on-one episode. Thank you again for listening and for making us part of your week. Thank you for supporting Alana and her in her her journey with the help after 30 and her business. If you're here, if you have if you have nutrition or health questions, reach out to her. Thank you again for the opportunity to chat with you today. And it's been awesome. And we're out of here. Have a great day. Enjoy your week, stay healthy.