Military Wellness Collective
Military Wellness Collective is made up of four friends — two retired Marines (Joshua and Brian) turned church planters and their wives (Brittany and Kelli)— who have lived life both in uniform and on the home front. Together, we share real stories, hard-earned wisdom, and practical, biblical encouragement to help military members, and their families thrive in every season. Whether you’re navigating deployments, adjusting to life in a new town, or simply seeking hope in the middle of your military journey, our mission is to equip you with truth from God’s Word and tools for a healthy, resilient life.
Military Wellness Collective
EP-13: What if loneliness is an invitation to be known?
Loneliness can feel loud, even when life is busy and rooms are full. We go straight at that ache, opening with the Scriptures that have steadied us—Psalms that promise God’s nearness and Ecclesiastes 4’s reminder that two are better than one—and then we get practical about how to move from isolation into real community. Along the way, we share unpolished stories: letters that bridged the gap at Officer Candidate School, a knock on a dorm door with soup when it mattered most, and the unique weight of military life when deployments, new towns, and Sunday mornings collide.
We talk about why “lone wolf” living fails, how social media counterfeits connection, and what embodied community actually looks like in a healthy local church. You’ll hear simple, repeatable steps for the hardest hours of the day: praying honestly out loud, naming what’s true to a trusted friend in one sentence, and reserving a small joy for the time you typically feel most alone. For spouses who’ve moved a dozen times and feel crusty from constant goodbyes, we offer a gentle push from Galatians 6:9—don’t grow weary in doing good—and show how sowing friendliness, hospitality, and honesty yields a harvest in due season. Service members will find a challenge, too: the military never sends you outside the wire alone; stop carrying invisible battles by yourself.
If you’re navigating deployments, parenting solo on Sundays, or just tired of the quiet after bedtime, this conversation offers both comfort and a plan. We point you to concrete resources—the Mighty Oaks Legacy Programs, Scripture to memorize when the night stretches on, and next steps to find a church family that actually knows your name. Press play, then take one small step: text someone to sit with you this weekend. If this helps, subscribe, share it with a friend who needs hope, and leave a review so others can find the conversation.
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1. The Bible- Read the Word, the Psalms, James 1, Proverbs 3:5-9, and the entirety of Scripture, know Jesus more and you will see how you are loved, cared for and NEVER alone!
2. God Does His Best Work with Empty: Guthrie, Nancy: 9781496439697: Amazon.com: Books
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Hey y'all, we're back. And today we're going to be diving in this wonderful day. I'm sorry. Brian is counting me. So I'm joined here with Brian and Kelly and Britney. Brittany's my wife, and Brian and Kelly are our best good friends. And we were messing around about adjectives, and I was going to just make very plain and boring introductions this morning. Man threw me all off. But today we're going to be talking about loneliness and isolation and how that can be such a such a such a battle in today's day and age, and I'm sure has been happening since the beginning of time. But we're going to be diving in today and we're going to start with some scripture, maybe talk through some of those passages, and then and then we'll get into some of that practical really what it means and and how we can work through it. So Kelly, did you have a passage you wanted to share with us?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. Well, when I think about loneliness, which I've struggled many different times in my life with loneliness, there's two verses in I love the Psalms, just to read all the time, any season. But there's two short ones that I love. One is Psalm 35, 22. You have seen, O Lord, be not silent. O Lord, be not far from me. So just like my prayer lies, be near, Lord, be near to me. And then in Psalm 145, 18, the Lord is near to all who call on him, to all who call on him in truth. Just that the we're never alone. That's like the main thing that I cling to. Is even in my loneliness, no, we're never, I'm never alone.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, loneliness as a feeling is a very normal, natural thing that we're going to experience. However, for the Christian, it's not true because we can call out to the Lord, and the Lord is with us. He is forever present, he is always present, he is omnipresent, if you want to use the fancier word. Yeah, that's good. I had a similar passage, one of my two passages, because the first place we need to turn in our loneliness is to the Lord. And so in Psalm 121, I lift up my eyes to the hills from where does my help come? My help comes from the Lord who made heaven and earth. And so in our loneliness, in our isolation, the first person we should turn to is the Lord. And he's there. He is near to each one of us. And so that's that's my first passage. You want me to say a second passage as well? That being said, we also need other people, other human beings. And so Ecclesiastes four, I feel like we've mentioned this one a few times. Two Ecclesiastes four, starting in verse nine, two are better than one, because they have a good reward for their toil. For if they fall, one will lift up his fellow, but woe to him who is alone when he falls, and has not another to lift him up. Again, if two lie together, they keep warm, but how can one keep warm alone? And though a man might prevail against one who is alone, two will withstand him. A threefold cord is not quickly broken. You know, there's this like rugged individualism of our culture. There is also this lone wolf idea in the military and veteran culture, but it's completely nonsensical. It's actually a tactic of Satan to convince you that you can go do this stuff alone. You can't. So to the military guys, you the military would never send you outside the wire by yourself. You're always in a unit, you're always in a team, you're always like the lowest level of that is a buddy team. And I really can't think of exceptions to that. And so lone wolves are dead wolves. And so do not fight the spiritual battle alone. You need other people in your life, actual people.
SPEAKER_02:It's interesting that you say that because on the wife side, too, there's this spirit of like independence. Like, I can do it all by myself. I don't need help. And it makes me think that is such a lie from the culture. We are to be dependent on the Lord. And so it does curse us in a way. It's funny that you mentioned we need other human beings because one of the definitions on Miriam Webster for loneliness is not frequented by human beings. Like, are we in community with one another? Another definition is being without company or cut off from others, sad from being alone, producing a feeling of bleakness or desolation. And in the military lifestyle, I feel like we see that happen a lot. We feel like we're alone or we're the only ones going through it. And I just love what Brian just mentioned about they would never send you out alone. Like, why are we trying to do this alone? We're not really alone.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. So yeah, that's good. And and the fact that you pointed out this human beings thing, it it's almost comical, but in our day and age, we've fallen into this trap of people thinking they're around a bunch of people because they use electronics, thinking because they're on social media, they're connected to people, thinking because they use their their smartphones in their pockets to do all these things to communicate with all these people, but then they feel alone because they're not actually with people, human beings in person together. And a lot of times it happens when you move to an area and you if you don't follow our guidance and don't join a local, good, healthy church, then you're not around human beings and you keep in contact with all the people from your past duty stations. You can feel alone even when you're surrounded by a bunch of people in a community because you haven't been intentional about joining a local church and being around human beings in the flesh. Man, that's good. And and we could go to the New Testament, dive into the church and all the verses there.
SPEAKER_00:I won't take that time to to do that, but yeah, and and so let's just be really crystal clear about actual people that you know and who know you, right? So, like even this podcast, if you listen to this podcast week after week, you're gonna start to feel like you know us. If you don't know us, then you don't know us, right? And even if we start, you know, some some pen pal stuff, right? Some comments back and forth and some emails back and forth and text messages, those types of things, we don't really know each other. And so what we're constantly, and we want that community, we want to be that resource for you. But what we're encouraging you to do is to join a local church, be a part of a small group in that local church. If your local church doesn't have small groups, maybe you open your home and start a small group. If your church does have small groups, maybe you open your home and start one and be invested in that, jump into one, join a local church, get to know people, know your neighbors, interact with actual human beings. This is so challenging for us these days. We can feel like we're connected through social media, through podcasts, through all these other means, but we need to be connected to actual human beings looking each other in the face and being in one another's homes and all those things.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So, yeah, we have some experiences around this table. And so I'm gonna kind of ask a question or call multiple questions, and I'd really like for you guys to give your own personal backgrounds on this. And and the question is is has there ever been a time in your life in the past where you have fallen into this a little bit of loneliness, some isolation? And what did you do about it? What was the solution? What came from that? Maybe you just struggled for a long time and you struggled needlessly, and that's your testimony. But like, what happened and what did you have you learned from that?
SPEAKER_00:I've got a fun story that Kelly's gonna be surprised on bringing up potentially. Fun story about loneliness. Yeah, it literally led to our marriage. So I was at Kelly and I met a few months before I went to Officer Canada School. And so boot camp type atmosphere. And I got some letters from like my mom and my dad, and I think my sisters, and maybe a cousin or two writing letters to Brian. And at one point, I know it's different than boot camp, but they give us some liberty towards the end of OCS. And and so I Kelly had committed to pray for me. We were friends. We were not dating, we were friends, and she committed to pray for me during OCS. And when I got out, I checked email for some reason, and I and I had an email from Kelly, hey, praying for you and praying for your military thing, praying for your military thing because she didn't know what I was doing.
SPEAKER_04:Didn't have a lot of military knowledge.
SPEAKER_00:I I replied, I replied to the email and I sent her my mailing address, and she sent me a letter. And so that was really my first. I had gone away to college and I was a little homesick at college, but that was different. And I I turned to really unhealthy things. I turned to unhealthy community, I turned to alcohol, I turned to chasing girls that was not going to be healthy for me. So I turned to all the unhealthy things. But at OCS, I was lonely. I was very thankful for every letter I got, and I was extremely thankful for the one person that didn't really have to engage me in relationship who did. And I don't think she had any like romantic thoughts at that time. It was just she was trying to do a good, godly thing and reached out. And so you can really bless somebody else if you reach into their loneliness, even maybe if you're reaching out of your own loneliness and and the Lord can really connect you in those those times and seasons.
SPEAKER_04:And I was gonna share a story about that. As an adult, really. I had been hanging out with some friends and I was in a lonely place because I wasn't gonna do the things they were gonna do anymore. I didn't have any friends. This girl had invited me to Bible study, and I had just told her no over and over and over again. And she had called one evening, and I my I was losing my voice because I was sick that night and everybody left and that it was in my suite in college. And I was like, she invited me, and I was like, Yeah, maybe I'll be there, but I had an excuse this time because I was like, I'm sick, you can probably hear, you know, I can't. And then we got off the phone. She just called to invite me, and then she showed up at my door with a can of soup. And I remember like it was just like a lonely time in my life because all these friends, since I was changing my lifestyle to to more align with like, you know, living for the Lord, these friends, so-called friends that I had in my life, did not want to hang out with me anymore. And I was just like literally alone in my dorm room. And then she just showed up, just it was like that simple gesture that was from the Lord. I feel like just reminder, like, you're not alone. But I was also gonna say, I've experienced extreme loneliness. Just I've talked about it a lot, but in the early parts of our marriage, when I was in a new town, my husband had to deploy almost right away, workups and deployment. And it just I don't know, I I didn't like it. And I had never I had come from a family that was always kind of bustling and busy and people around to college life that was pretty, you know, to just like it's just me in a new town, in a empty house. You know, there were neighbors living around, but it was just it felt very, very lonely. And that is when I think I just really had to answer the question like, do I really believe that God is enough for me in this loneliness? Like, is he enough?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and you did in that season, you what regularly went to a local church and you got to know three neighbors, three different sets of neighbors in that house, like next door neighbor, behind us neighbor, catacorner neighbor.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And those were really impactful relationships during that season.
SPEAKER_04:Absolutely.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and you guys mentioned churches joining them, and and we've we've talked about that a lot. And if I if I can be an encouragement, not just to people looking for churches right now, but also to those who are in churches near military communities. I got a letter from a lady months ago, and it was she had heard about our planting churches near military bases and and pillar church and what it was doing. And she reached out with the most encouraging letters. She she was the she's the wife of, I think, a a colonel, and she had moved around with her husband for years and years and years, and she had come back to the same location like three different times and tried different churches every time, and like tried to dive in, but every time she didn't, she never felt like she was at home, like at a home church, like it was her church, part of her church because those churches treated her like this transient person and was just there for a short period of time. And so she never felt like she could really dive in. My encouragement to her would be to really latch on to communic, like communicate that and to dive into her community. My encouragement to those churches would be to not have like a quote unquote military ministry and put them off to the side, like just welcome them in as part of the family. But Britney, did you have anything that you wanted to dive into? You've never been lonely, I'm sure. You've never been lonely ever.
SPEAKER_02:I think I resonate with what Kelly said because the beginning of our marriage, you were gone a lot. I mean, probably the first 12 years of our marriage, you were gone a lot. Yeah, it really was. And for me, there were lots of people around because we got saved in shortly after you joined the Marine, we you joined the Marine Corps at our first duty station. So I always had people around. I think for me, it was more in my mind. I would just get in places where I would convince myself like nobody understood. I was raising kids and just by myself and tired, and just would kind of open the door and give a little crack to the enemy to come in and just lie, really, when there were people around. And really, my loneliness came from a deep place within of wanting to look like I could do it all and be it all and have it all together, and that I had control and that I didn't need help, that I could be self-sufficient. And through that, I'm thankful the Lord really sanctified me. And similar to Kelly showed me, He was enough and he is sufficient, and I don't need to try to be enough that my community is there because they're my community and they love me and they want to know when I'm struggling. And so, yeah, I just that's kind of where my loneliness come from. I know in another episode I mentioned I'm a deep feeler, and so I can really just take things in deeply.
SPEAKER_04:I like how you said, you know, you were surrounded by people, but you still felt lonely. I think that's definitely possible. It's not just alone, it's just and sometimes it's because of our struggles. We feel like we are alone in the struggle.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Like we're the only one that's ever been there or done this. Right.
SPEAKER_04:So it just creates this a lie.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Can you all speak to a really specific moment of loneliness? Your husband is away, deployment, training, school, whatever. It's Sunday morning, you walk into church.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, that's some of the hardest Sundays. Yeah. Go ahead, Kelly. As you well, I mean, I I can remember, I can remember so many Sunday mornings doing that. That was one of the hardest things, I think, is going to church alone before kids and after and with kids. Just because you can look around and just, I mean, you know, comparison is a thief of joy for sure. But like just look around at all these people hugging and having people to sit with, and you're sitting by yourself and no one's coming to talk to you. Maybe they are, maybe they aren't, you know. And it's just like just battling all that, just the sadness that your husband's gone, that he's not there with you. And I'm by myself in this maybe crowded place, you know, that and no one's talking to me. But at the same time, all of that's ripe for growing in the Lord, too. But yeah, just that's that's one of the hardest things, I think.
SPEAKER_02:I agree. Like concur also, like if you add kids to that, like and they're little, and we had three kids that were little at the same time. I know y'all adopted three toddlers. Like when Joshua was gone, sometimes I could feel isolation and loneliness, or almost like I was being condemned trying to wrangle three kids and get them in the door. You know, people like, oh, was she not disciplining it, or is she not controlling? And a lot of that was in my own, you know, self-perception and maybe what others were thinking. And so I just like if you see that young mom or you are that young mom, like we love you and we see you, and and if you see them, like tell them they're doing a good job, like encourage them, let them know you love them, pray for them, sit with them.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. How can you help them?
SPEAKER_02:Can you help them take their kids to the car? Like, yeah, just I don't know.
SPEAKER_04:There's so many gestures from people in the church were so loving to me in that season of just like coming over to sit with me or to just yeah, talk to me.
SPEAKER_01:And most of the time, correct me if I'm wrong, y'all will not reach out and ask for help. What are you talking about?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So if you're those people that are seeing that that young lady in church, like just reach out, ask the question help. And were you gonna say something before I go on to a channel?
SPEAKER_00:And encourage them. I think the other thing is so the feelings of loneliness are a normal response to the experience that you're having. Yes. Your husband is gone, you're away from mom and dad, you're in a new town, you're in a strange church, you're parenting alone, you're parenting alone, you're like lonely. The feelings of loneliness are a normal response to what's happening to you. But you have a decision to move into isolation in response to that, or to move into community with other brothers and sisters in Christ, and to move into solitude with the Lord and crying out to the Lord. And so just remaining in that state normally is a pride thing. Remaining in that state is like, well, let me look like I have it all together. Well, how about you open up and realize you don't have it all together and reach out to people, reach out to the Lord first and foremost, and then reach out to other human beings. And so just realizing that this is this is a normal thing, but let's push in the right directions, not the wrong directions. You're not solving loneliness in the bottom of a bottle, alcohol bottle, or prescription medication bottle, pornography, or pornography, or steam scrolling, yes, steam scrolling, or an adulterous affair. None of these are gonna solve the problem. None of them.
SPEAKER_01:I'm gonna back up just a little bit and and and just make sure we understand the scenario is that this young lady whose husband has just gone off on deployment or whatever and shows up to church, right? Show up to church is the first step. So like you might be out there and being like, ah, I just don't want to be around people, I'm just lonely, and that is you falling into isolation, and then the next step is depression, and you're gonna fall into all sorts of issues with that. So to take that same scenario and bring it to the end of the day, many of these military wives out there fill their days full of stuff and things, or they fill it with healthy or unhealthy, they're doing things throughout the day. And then eight o'clock at night rolls around. If there's kids in the picture, they're starting to go off to bed. If there's not, most of those friends that you hang out with have gone home after dinner or whatever the case is, and you're just in this quiet house. What advice slash when you have been there, what have you worked through? What are some good practices to remember? Or just what are some things that you would you've worked through during that time and space for that scenario?
SPEAKER_04:I would say cry out to the Lord. I literally cried out to the Lord. I remember, I mean, I can even picture myself in our bedroom in that house on base, or first where we live the longest, I guess the first time. And just crying and calling out to the Lord, and just I mean, even like I am lonely. I am lonely. I miss my husband, I feel alone, I don't have friends, I don't know anyone. Just and I and I know that seems like very simple, but I felt the Lord meet me there in such a real way of just doing that over and over and over again.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Can I talk to the dude side? So like acknowledge it. You know, we are so good at just taking the thing and putting it in our pack, and we're just gonna carry a little bit more emotional baggage around. Like find an actual brother, and when he's like, hey man, you doing all right today? It's okay to say, I really miss my wife. Or I really miss if if you're not married yet, if you're younger, like, hey, I really miss my family, or I really miss home, or I really miss my car, what like whatever it is, just acknowledge it. Just acknowledge it. I was so bad at that. I just tucked it deep down inside, and so I'm telling you what I what I didn't do for too long, and sometimes it's one sentence. I miss I miss my wife. This is hard. I'm scared. Like these are really simple sentences, but they're difficult to say in the moment, and so I we just need to be saying those things to one another. Okay.
SPEAKER_02:A question that I like to ask now is uh, are you okay or are you not okay? Like give somebody the option, and that's not mine. That's taken from Untangle Your Emotions, a book I read.
SPEAKER_04:And it it's short, so people can be like, not okay. And then you can ask, hey, do you want to talk about it?
SPEAKER_02:Okay, they don't? Well, I'm gonna follow up with you and make sure you're okay. We need to give each other the space to say we're not okay, and we're in such a culture where I I did it this morning when Kelly and Brian came in. Like, how are you? I'm good. Yeah, I'm good. Well, wait a minute. I am good, but this is happening and it's real. For me, the first two deployments, I did cry out to the Lord like Kelly. That's where I the Lord met me, and I really realized I had placed Joshua in a position that he didn't need to be. It was like I had made him my Jesus. I know that's not exactly what was happening, but I was idolizing him and trusting him to fulfill my emotional needs instead of the Lord. So as I grew in my military experience as a wife, I had an older wife tell me, Brittany, pick one thing that you love to do, whether it's a book or crochet or whatever it is. And at nighttime when you feel the loneliest, that's the time you do that. That's your special thing you get to look forward to during the day. You know, put the kids to bed. Because when we would put our kids to bed, that was our time together when he was home. And so she said, just give yourself something to look forward to. You know, so I would pray and then I had my thing, and I reserved it for only that time when I knew I was gonna feel the loneliest. That was my time to pray and do that thing. That's just something I did.
unknown:I don't know.
SPEAKER_01:So, next scenario, that wife that is been moving around for a few different duty stations and is maybe feeling weary, feeling a little bit like, man, we're doing this again. And shows up to the new duty station, and maybe maybe it's like when we came off of recruiting duty and we showed up to Eastern North Carolina for the first time, and I didn't realize it at the time, but I showed up to my unit and it was like, oh, hey, by the way, we're deploying really soon, within a month or so. Six weeks. Yeah, it was something crazy like that. So I basically dropped my family off here as we moved here and then left. When stuff like that happens, what is some practical encouragement we can give to that spouse?
SPEAKER_02:Uh I memorized this verse in the King James, so I don't know what it says in any other version, but I think it's Proverbs 18, 24, and it says a man who has friends shows himself friendly. And I realized in if I want to have friends, if I want to have community, I'm gonna have to do the hard work. And to be quite honest, early on in military life, that was easy for me. I loved moving around and meeting new people. The older I got, the older we got in our military career, I was kind of like that tired, weary wife. Like, okay, here we go again. I'm gonna have to make friends and invest in relationships, and we're gonna be leaving. And so I at that time our kids were coming into their teen years, and I would say that verse to them over and over. And it was really for me too. Like, Brittany, you need to press in, you need to show yourself friendly and build authentic community. Find those few women that you're gonna be raw and honest with. And I wish I would have been a little bit more raw and honest earlier on. So for you younger wives, find a little bit older wife or something that is gonna be able to handle your emotions and point you to truth because that was so helpful for me later on.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, because there's the reason I asked asked that particular question is there's there's there's this propensity out there to start to get crusty over time and just kind of get a little bit like abrasive and just say, I've been through this before. I'm not sure.
SPEAKER_04:Well, and seeking comfort, I think. Like we just want to seek comfort, but that's not where we grow. That's like God wants to like get that, or just maybe like show us that sin that we're getting crusty or whatever.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and then doing so what it's almost like this entitlement that comes with it, where it's like, oh, I've done this so many times when I show up to those duties. Exactly. And some people should be reaching out to me, not the other way around. And it's like, no, you need to show yourself friendly, and reach out to people and and love them well too. Yeah, go ahead.
SPEAKER_02:I want to speak to that really quick because I think some of the loneliest, isolated families or spouses that I knew ended up being older in their military career. Like the brand new ones, it was like, whoo, this is a wild ride, you know, a little now during deployment that was different. And so I think there's that propensity to get that way the longer we're in. And I would say guard your heart above all else.
SPEAKER_00:Galatians chapter six and verse nine. And let us not grow weary of doing good. For in due season we will reap if we do not give up.
SPEAKER_03:That's good.
SPEAKER_00:We get it. It can be hard, it can be weary. You're right. It's fun, it's an adventure. Venture when you're young, if you're on duty station number three, four, five, twelve, sleeps in the fine. Start to grow weary from doing good and being friendly and engaging in community and building community. Do not grow weary in doing good. You will in due season reap what you are sowing if you do not give up. It's good.
SPEAKER_01:And can I just say that goes for the military member as well? Hey there, crusty master sergeant, first sergeant, sergeant major, major, colonel out there. Every unit you go to, you need to build community in that unit.
SPEAKER_02:Can I say one more thing really quick to that passage? I know, I know, we gotta wrap it up. But it was talking about reaping what you sow. And if you sow from the beginning of your early career, those good seeds, and you continue to water them and cultivate that within your heart, it's gonna produce something that over time, if you do not give up, is gonna yield a bountiful harvest that is so life-giving. So I just want to encourage plant those seeds early. Like, don't let the root of bitterness or loneliness don't stay there. Like rip out the weeds and put some good seeds in so wildflowers can grow. Just know that you're gonna read that.
SPEAKER_00:Shout out to our friends Chris and Elise. They are on their fourth duty station, I believe. Fourth duty station. And in their local church, they're experiencing a bit of family reunion from previous duty stations and Christians they were in community with in previous duty stations because they have invested in that over time. And now in their fourth duty station, they're getting to reap some of that. So that's just man, that's cool to see.
SPEAKER_01:It's great. Some quick resources around the table. If anybody has any, please chime in with any resources.
SPEAKER_04:The word of God.
SPEAKER_01:I was about to save the sides of the Bible because we were in that a lot, but glad you said it.
SPEAKER_00:How to find a church in your military community. We might just start linking this all the time. Find a church in your military community. I wrote a blog about that. The other one is Joshua and I both have recently gone to a thing called Mighty Oaks Legacy Program. So we'll put a link there. There's also one, there's the legacy program for men and the legacy program for women. And it's just helpful to help you process what has been going on from a biblical stance, biblical manhood, biblical womanhood. It's like really simple stuff, but really transformative to get to help get you back on track.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Yeah. And and they pay for everything, your flight out there, the whole shindig, great food. And they spend a whole week just letting you process and guide you through that. It's really good. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:James, chapter one. I highly recommend memorizing the first part of that. And when you feel lonely, just repeating it. And also, uh, Nancy Guthrie wrote a book, God Does His Best with Empty. And I think sometimes loneliness is emptying us of ourselves and pressing us into community. So I recommend that book.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Very good. All right, y'all. It's been a it's been a fun topic of loneliness. But I appreciate y'all chiming in and being transparent. And uh, hope this was helpful for y'all out there. Have a wonderful day.