FansOnly, Paris-Roubaix, and Coachella

There are a lot of bike things to talk about this week, which means that Hannah is forced to do a lot of listening. Seriously, though, Paris-Roubaix was so exciting and emotional in both the men’s and women’s races that Sarah has a lot to say, including which rider might be cuter than Dylan and the absolute travesty of not providing live coverage of the full women’s race. Then, they pivot to Sarah’s upcoming commentary at Sea Otter, which Hannah is extremely nervous about. Plus, they discuss the new season of 'Euphoria,' their mom’s challenges with the Notes app, and the shorts people are wearing at Coachella.

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Transcript

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Welcome to Talking Over You with Sarah Sturm and Hannah Sturm. Here we go. If you're gonna be an asshole, at least be funny. At least be funny. I thought it was a man coon. We need to have like a real athlete on here. It makes me consider different careers every time I have to pee in my chamois. Hi! Are you recording? Yeah. Okay. You do look shiny though, like glowing. Sorry. Shiny is not the right thing. I'm going for shiny like a Barbie doll. Have you seen the box for that? I'm back on TikTok. I had to do it. Welcome. It's so much better than Instagram reels. I am sorry. It is. It is. It is. I mean, I feel like my I have an interesting algorithm right now because it's all just like nail stuff. Um, I've really really set my algorithm up so it's just like doing my nails are information. That's I mean, you can learn recipes. I you have become a nail tech. I did post, I post a picture of my new set because I actually don't hate these ones. And um a friend commented and she was like, Oh my gosh, is there anything you can't do? And I was like, very kind. And I was like, Yeah, yeah, ride bikes. Oh, I have more to add to that list. Oh, yeah, you you chimed in really quickly. That's correct. What else can't I do? Actually, no, I can't think of it. Hide your feelings. Oh, that is absolutely true. Uh actually, this week, I feel like I had a lot of practice in that because you know what I didn't want to do all week? Talk. I didn't want to talk to anyone. Uh and I had to work you know what my job is? Sitting there and talking to people for 10 hours every day. Yeah. It was I really struggled this week. Don't get pregnant. Okay. It just oh, the pregnancy hormones have really hit me. Oh. And it really changes things. Like I really truly did not feel hormonal um until the last two weeks. Like I'm in month six. Yeah. Are you?

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Mm-hmm.

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Are you in your the third trimester? No. Okay. I'm like close to the third. Like when I get back from Spain, I'll be in the third trimester. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. You called me yesterday and like you started the conversation by saying, like, I'm just like hungry and grouchy and blah blah blah. And then I said something because you were like, Are you grouchy? And I was like, no, are you? And you were like, I'm not grouchy. And I was like, you literally just said you were grouchy. I was like, okay, you are. You are in fact grouchy. Sorry to throw Dylan under the bus on this one. I already told you this, but I have been pretty good with anxiety, with like pregnancy anxiety since the first trimester. That is a different Yeah, totally. That's a different thing. Oh, we don't have sponsors this week, by the way. So okay, great. We're good. Yay, great. And yeah, I like all of a sudden just got a wave of anxiety about like just what if this happens? And we're in bed, and I'm not even gonna give him credit because like he does get sleepy and he doesn't do well when we're going to bed, like laying like just got in the crisp sheets, and I was like, I have a lot of anxiety. And he was like, What? You're being crazy. First of all, called me crazy, and then was like, Well, just don't try to put that out of your mind, and then basically told me to not be anxious. Yeah, that doesn't usually work. And then he got sleepy, and I was like, So you're just full of rage, and he just went to sleep. Don't take it out on the microphone. Our listeners don't have to suffer your rage. Just ate the fucking mice. Full of rage. Jesus, will you check it and see if you blew it out? Alright, so you're full of rage. Anyway, that really, really got to me. Yep, that'll do it. I mean, and then he did try, but I was like, don't you just called me crazy and then told me to not be anxious, and then got on your phone and got sleepy. Not to bring our marital problems. Let's see what else you got going on. Anyway, I'm just feeling like really, really ragey. Uh oh. And I think there's just a point in pregnancy that every woman hits and you just like really truly dislike men. I don't think it stops after you have the baby. Great. And I feel like I'm already in that. I think I'm never surrounded by any men. No, I'm just kidding. I there's love men, love them. They're the best. Yeah, definitely it wouldn't hormones it. Like, I mean, during Passover, when I was hormonal and I was like, I just fucking hate men. Oh my god, in front of like Dylan and Mike. I mean, we were like, it's fine. I get it. I do kind of hate them. I get it. Well, we have a lot to get through. Yeah, it was a busy, busy weekend. Okay, how do you want to structure this? Because I've like got like well, I know I I prepared myself to like sit and listen because I know that's a good thing. Well, I have to explain the bike race. I know, yeah. And there was bike stuff, so and it is, but it sort of will lead into other things, I think. Because I have a lot, like, it's not just about the like I will explain what happened in the race and what the race is. Okay. But then there's a lot of like fun emotional things for us to do emotional things. Yeah, that's it was cool. Well, then maybe I'll talk about uh the couple of things that I have. Go for it. Okay. Um I did some art projects this week. I did a little collage. Yeah, those were cool. Thank you. Um I had like one day off in between. I just worked a lot, but I had one day where I was like, today I'm taking care of myself. And so I went to the thrift store uh in Cortez, which is like has some hidden gems of certain things, and I got like the motherload of all like a bunch of old national geographics, and like I found this uh bodybuilder magazine or like publication from the 80s, and it's just this one woman, and she like all of these incredible poses. This and I was like, yes, that's incredible. I got it home and I was like flipping through all the pages, and I was like, oh, some of these are dog eared. Oh, she's naked, and so the only ones that are dog eared are the ones where she's fucking naked. Were they crispy? Yeah, because they're I thought that's where you were going. Ugh, no, I really hope not. I don't think so. I think they're I think they're clean. I don't know. It did gross me out though. It was a super yucky um realization. We'll throw back to getting those pillows. What pillows? At the thrift store in Stillwater. Oh, we never talked about that. I don't think we should. I think we're good. No. I did. But that artwork was cool. Thank you. It's been really fun. I just the bed has eyes, or you're being watched, or what was it? I don't know, something like that. Yeah, it's been his Instagram. It's been fun to just private. I don't think so. Oh, okay. Yeah, I think all can see all the things that I'm I have a quick one for us to get to. What? Mom's notes. Oh my god. Well, so okay, so she originally like what was it about? It was like some it was a medical thing that she was like, this is like a spinal Oh she shared some she had taken notes uh-huh from one of her doctors' appoint because mom had neck sur a very very serious neck surgery a few years ago. Yeah. Um and she's fine now. Um, but she had shared like one of her checkup like appointment notes that she had taken, and she we either she figured it out. I mean, honestly, mom is really good with technology. She is. I'm going to give her that, especially for other compared to other 70 plus people. Definitely. Um so I'm gonna give her that. And so she was using the notes app to share with us, so we have a shared app. Well, but instead of making different pages on notes, you know, like some of them you can share and then some of them you could just have as like your grocery list or like our baby names on the list, she just throws everything on that one list. So the the shared note was just one word. Like it wasn't all of her notes from her thing to be like, here am I doctor's opponent? Yeah, it was just one word, it was whatever the term was or the medication or something. Yeah, it was like a long thing, and then she were like, I like opened the note because I was like, Oh, mom shared a note. It probably has like a bunch of information. Sir, why do you keep turning me down? I'm I'm turning both of us down. Okay. God damn. I'm not I'm turning both. Okay. I just it was blinking. Okay. Anyway, continue. I don't remember what I was saying. You yell at me and then I get mad. Okay, there's literal like evidence on this podcast of you just yelling at me and then yelling at me again. Okay, well, anyway, it was just one word. She shared the note. I opened it to be like, oh, there's probably more information. No more information. Yeah, just the one word. But now we keep getting notifications that she's editing the note, but she's just deleting she deleted the word and is just like adding in random stuff. Well, so the other week it was just, I think, a phone number, maybe. No, it was like a five-digit number. Yeah. So I dig no context. Just a number. But if we both really enjoy getting it, and we also have not discussed this with mom. No, not at all. There was one today while I was like writing notes. She'll know for Wednesday when this comes out. Yeah, and she'll be like, oh, chit. But I don't want mom, please don't stop. We love it. It makes us feel close to you. Anytime you want to send us a little note, you can do it in there. And then what did she add? What else? Oh, it was somebody, it was the title doesn't make any sense. And then it was somebody, it was like questions for Karen. And then the thing down below just said like scarpetta, which is a kind of pasta or a person, or a restaurant. I'm not sure. But that's all that's all we've got on her notes. Yeah, love it. Um, have you seen the new there's a new Netflix documentary? I can't remember the title. Something about false profit. No. Okay, so I watched it. See, I'm off of Netflix. Oh. But I'm glad I'm paying for yours. Thank you. Uh, and I do really appreciate that. Yeah. Um, it's okay. I'm paying for your Spotify. Spotify? Shopify. Spotify. Yeah, I get this mixed up. So there's this new documentary. It's called Something Something the False Prophet. I just spit. Oh, I know what it is. Um, and it's yeah, so the FLDS, like after Warren Jeff's, I want to watch it. Don't don't spoil. I won't spoil anything. Um, except for one scene. Because we it was Be Sweet, Pray and Obey, but like follow up to that one. No. Well, that yeah, kind of. Well, okay, sure. I mean, it's like FLDS. So there anyway, can I just tell you a little bit about what it is? And then you should definitely watch it. But so it's um there's like after Warren Jeffs goes to prison, there's this new, just like total scummy, like nothing of a dude who decides that he's gonna be the next prophet. He like, you know, and then all of these people start following him. Anyway, there's this woman who's not in FLDS, um, but she kind of like gains their trust and goes undercover, and she's a character, right? She like wears like all pink and is just like I mean, her husband is like a like a filmmaker, and so they just have a ton of footage. Um anyway, definitely watch it. So I think I know the disturbing twist. Um, okay. There was one scene where the girls, and I say girls because there were underage um wives, but they are like trying to they're like not wanting to wear gentile clothes, and so they go to Target and they have plenty of options, and they came out of Target in the exact same clothes. I'm just like Target is just selling clothes that look like you're an FD. Like, yeah, for sure. I see you complete with a bonnet or whatever for real. It was so ridiculous. I was like, that's really that's the same thing that she was wearing. It's a great documentary, though. Yeah, it's really good watching. It definitely we watched the be sweet pray and obey before, and it was really I watched all of those. Anything about like cults, I'm just like we're in, yep, fully in. I was talking to a customer uh who's like a he's he's one of the like old dudes in in Mancus, and uh he was telling me that he was part of this cult for 20 something years in California and was telling me all about it. Oh, what was it called? Like not synonym, but cinnanon. Cinnon? And they was spelled like cinnamon or no with an S. S-Y-N-A-N-O-N. Um, I had never heard of it before, but he was telling me all about it, and their like big thing was attack therapy. They had these things called the Cinnanon game, where you're like allowed to say, No, I don't think so. Um you're like in a it's like group therapy basically, but you're allowed to like like nothing is off limit. I don't know. It sounded crazy. I wanted to do more research, but he was telling me all of all about it. Well, let's bring him on the pod. He's got an incredible voice. Oh. An incredible voice. He would, yeah. I just should really narrate books and I just did a podcast with training peaks, and um, the host, I was like, Oh, you have a voice for radio and podcasts. I was we definitely don't humbled. Really? Yeah, I was like, Yeah, ours are real tinny and sound exactly the same. Yeah. Okay, one more thing. Sorry, mom. We were I'm just going through my list. Okay. Um actually, I'm not even gonna say it. It was just it was really funny. It was just a funny moment. Uh well, okay, if anyone's ever played cards against humanity with parents or grandparents, which Dylan and I have done both, you have to explain uncomfortable things to older the older generations. And I think you had to explain queee. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, so fast forward what I don't know, 10 years. And we're at uh my mom's house for dinner, and she was like, Oh, I have a question for you guys. What is fans only? And my first thought was like like fans.com. Oh, it's like a place where you get ceiling fans for the house. And then Dylan, and then the rest of the conversation was really we're like only fans, and then trying to explain what OnlyFans is is actually really interesting. And I mean, technically it's exactly like Patreon, which is like a shared video platform, and the rest of the conversation was Dylan basically trying to say that OnlyFans isn't just for sexual content, and I was like, sure. Is it not? No, like we technically could instead of having a Patreon where people pay to watch bonus episodes of our podcast, we could have an OnlyFans. And I think we should. And I think we could have a fans only. We should, fans only damn. Um, speaking of OnlyFans, there's the new season of Euphoria that just came out. I just watched the episode. Is it good? Uh of course it is. Uh I mean it's you know, twisted and euphoria, but um Cassie, what's that awful actress? Sydney Sweeney? Yes. Uh her character is like I feel like she plays the same character in every kind of who she is, but every single thing that she's in. She's about to get into OnlyFans. She's like convincing her dude that she's like can make a bunch of money. Why she chose OnlyFans and not Patreon. And not fans only. Anyway, sorry, Mom, that we're really too. Like not the actress in in like I know. Oh, okay. I was just making a joke. Oh, it was funny. Damn. Okay, let's talk about bikes. I've been just really excited about it. We don't have to. I'm also kind of hungry. Oh my god. Hannah, I'm scared to like make fun of you because I don't want it to come back on me. I feel fine. Okay, but you have to be able to take it also. I am queen of. Not right now. You got baby hormones. Okay, let's hear it. I don't even want to say. I come here hungry often, every time. And Sarah may chip. No, I don't. I don't hate it. I literally just comment. I'm like, no, and I was prepared. I put three sausages in the toaster. No four. Which is a crazy sentence. Knowing that Hannah was gonna be hungry because she always is hungry and eats our food when she comes to her. So much attitude. I don't even want to eat. You you can't say that you don't give me attitude when I'm like, I'm kind of making fun of you. Well, sometimes I there it is, and there it is. There what is? I'm hungry. Do you want to stop and get no, I'm fine. Did you hear how yours cracked? Yeah, I just adjusted it. Anyway. God damn. What else? We don't have to talk about the bike race. No, I really I really do want to talk about the bike race. I was like, I was really, I was really excited too. I know you like posted about it. That's when I'm like, oh man, we are gonna have some stuff to talk about. Okay, so historic Perry Roubet, which is part of the spring classic European road race. Okay. So they're all the like like last week was Flanders, the one we talked about briefly. But I honestly I don't know why people care about F Roubet is really cool. It's the one that has like these huge cobble sections. So like they're like on road bikes. Like people do like special things to their the like handlebars on their bikes, um, and they like you know, they have special like padding in their specifically for this bike race, and it it finishes on a velodrome, which is like the banked track thing. So like this whole road race is like yeah, it's not like a stage thing, the race itself, they like go from cobblestones into a velodrome. Yes, so and then they do like laps around. They do they finish with a lap and a half, so it's a crazy finish. It's really dramatic. Swirling down the toilet. Yeah, it's it's really I mean, and it's such a cool arena for a bike race to finish because usually like Yeah, that's true. It's just it it's just one of those that like you know, road racers at that level like they have dreamt of you know winning Roubaix, and it's it's a one-day race, so like people who generally do well at like the women and men's Tour de France aren't usually favorites for Roubaix because it's like not a ton of climbing, it's usually it's like flat power, like technical because you're on these cobbles. Um, unless you're one of the greats, like Pagaccha or Pauline From Provot, who both have has Pagaca won Roubet? Hasn't he won everything? I I don't know, he hasn't. But hasn't he been he's been been winning everything? He yeah, yes, for the last few years. Truly making bike racing, men's bike racing really boring, right? But um and I'm reading between the lines that he did not win this one. So okay. I'll I'll start with the men's race. Okay, because like it was really emotional. Oh, was it? It was because so did you cry? Um I definitely like teared up a little bit. Really? Yeah, so I'll give you the history. So there's Vanderpol, the one who looks like Dylan. Um yeah, he's he's like huge, like really tall, like he's really good at spring classics. With Pagatcha, he has blonde hair now. Looks like you. I saw a picture and I was like, is that Sarah? He was like on the toilet or something, or there was like in the chat. There was like something where he was like putting the bike challenge. No, it wasn't him on a bike. No, no, no, no, no, definitely not. But I was like, that's Sarah's hair. He did do it. Okay, so bleach looks like you. He did shave his head and then bleach it, which I didn't come cheer. So he's looking at you. He's definitely knows who I am. Um so he obviously was one of the phase. He's a listener, he's a yapper. Or whatever. Um wait, quick yeah, thing about that exactly. Yes. Okay, so there is a new book that came out called American Fantasy. It's great, super just like easy read palette cleanser. Um, it's about this like old boy band that then is like on a um like a cruise, like a cruise boy band, like people go to like see this boy band. Boy band cruise, boys boy band? Cruise boy band. Um, and so the band used to be called or was called is whatever, is called boy talk. And so they call all of their fans talkers, and it actually really works. Oh, and so I was like, huh, could just be talkers. Great, talkers, anyway. So he's a talker. So Pagaccha's a talker. Boy Talk just reminds me of Mom Talk from The Mormon Housewives or whatever that show is. Yes, anyway. Okay, so Pagaca's a talker. So Pagaca's a talker, and then we have Van DePole, the tall guy who looks like Dylan, who is he's won it four times, and this was gonna be like a historic fifth win for him. He was one of the favorites. Who's the guy with the the lips? Jonas. Okay. Yeah. Got it. Jonas's lips, he was not there. Too little. Okay. Too little. Too little. Oh, his arms just couldn't. They just fall off.

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Okay.

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Truly they would fall off of his body. Gotta gotta he wouldn't make it to the tour. Um, so it was actually unique that Pogacha was there, but he wins everything, so He was naturally one of the favorites. Okay. Um, and then Wout. And Wout Wout Venart is Wout. He I think um I think he's like the hot one. Yeah, no, I know who he is.

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Got it.

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But he also kind of like a like a dark horse. He seems really nice. Oh, okay. We love that. And he's teammates with Sep. Um. Yeah. So, and anyway, he's just he seems like he's a really great teammate. Like he's always like I mean, don't get me wrong. Like the dude has won, I think he's like a cycloc, is he a cyclocross world? Anyway, a little bit of backstory. Uh, he and Vanderpol, since they were like little baby boys, have been going at, you know, the same, like they're like one and two, flip-flop. Uh, Vanderpool, I would say maybe has one more site more, a little bit more than Wout. But anyway, they're both like true legends. Vanderpol is a little bit more like fast cars, nice watch, bad boy, you know, that kind of guy. Okay. Ooh, got it. Yep. Wow. Paint me a picture because I wonder if that's one of the things I don't know what he looks like. He looks like Dylan. Also, I think he's cute. I was gonna say, and you said that Wout is the hot one. So like Vanderple's kind of the ugly one.

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Um to my hottie.

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Hottie with the body. The one who looks like my husband? Honestly, hate him. Honestly, I think Dylan's better looking than Wout.

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I mean, than um, it's a mistake. This is a real hot take. Why is my face is burning?

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It's about as red as your socks. Oh, okay, funny. Funny. So wow it's like just crying. Oh no, no, no. Okay, the hot one. Um he has a family, which we love. Yep, yep. Somebody else thought it was hot. Two little kids, and his wife was there. Anyway, he always like he just has been getting second place all the time. And you know how that feels. True. I mean, really, it's the third for me now. But yeah, we're slipping. We're slipping. But yeah, just he's like, he's always just like almost there in so many races. I mean, I don't really feel bad for him because like these guys are making like assloads of money or whatever. Um but he and Paga come into the finite. So Vanderpol had like two flats. So like just to paint a picture of the like there have been like special bikes that are made specifically for Roubaix. Like it's so is the whole thing on cobble other than the Velodrome part? No, but a lot of it's like aren't those really different bikes? Like a velodrome bike is really different than a do they switch bikes? No. Good question, but it's just like a lap and a half. Usually, like track bikes are fixed gears with no brakes. Okay. Um, but if they were doing like a full competition on the track, then yes, but no, this is just like kind of show pony thing. Show pony thing. Yeah, yeah. And just I don't know why. I'm sure there's I'm I guess I could have looked up the history of like why it finishes there, but it does. Um, so naturally, like the race is always riddled with mechanicals and flats. It is truly like a photographer's wet dream. Like, there's so many amazing moments as a photographer. Like it's super dusty. There's like fans on the like you're racing through farmland on cobbles, like mechanics are all over the place with like spare wheels. There's car. I mean, it is like chaos. It is so insane. Um, and yeah, there's it's just so brutal. Also, side note, so these cobbles are where is it? Oof, I knew you were gonna ask that. Oh, yeah, because I was gonna say you just have to give me the country. All right, or just it's called Perry Roubaix, so I don't know how. I would say France. I don't oh god, I knew you were gonna ask that. Well, that seems like a really simple thing that you would know. Like I was trying to do that. I was trying to look it up, but then you were I was busy cooking those sausages. Oh shut up. No, you weren't. I literally it's fine. Well, now I'm just making sausages on the table. Where is Northern France? Phew. Okay, great. We got there. Okay. Huh. So these cobbles are, I mean, there's like huge gaps. So like imagine like a road tire. Did you see that like slow-mo that I posted? Yes. It's crazy. So like it's actually pretty wild that people get through that thing without flatting. But poor, wow, nope, poor Vanderpool, uh-huh, Matthew, MVP, um, he flatted like twice. His teammate tried to give him a bike, there was a Hulkerfuffle, and he was like two minutes down, and he basically was like, Oh, that's my race. But what was actually crazy is he rode so hard. I mean, he was correct. Like post-race interview, he was like, Yeah, once I was like a minute out, I my race was done. Which, yeah, I mean, you kind of ha have to be in it. But he got really close to catching them again, and he was in the sprint for third. Sorry, can I just ask you a question really quick that has nothing to do with bikes? What what face stuff are you using? Uh is it new? No, it looks really good. Thank you. It's that glow. It's glowy. It's very glowy. Super glowy. I feel like it's inside of my mouth.

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Like I feel like I just took the tube. And it's only this one.

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I just had like I wasn't gonna be able to concentrate on anything else every day. It's sunscreen, tinted sunscreen. Oh, it looks really nice. Okay. Thank you. Um, so anyway, these these cobbles are massive. Like they in the dirt, like if you dug them up, they're like these huge, and you get one if you win. Like they're massive rocks. Get a big old rock? Yeah, but people have been stealing them. Like there were like 80 cobbles missing from this one sector. So there's like these massive holes. They don't know if like they're hoping people they're hoping people were stealing them and not trying to sabotage. Yeah, isn't that crazy? People suck. They suck all around the world. The sabotage, like you can't be like selective about who you're sabotaging, you just want to sabotage every race. I mean, there were like some years at the Gila, the that race in New Mexico where like the some of the towns that they would go through, you know, the locals really didn't want bike racers, and they would like throw tax in the road. Yeah, yeah. That'll do it. So anyway, have any like what no leads? No leads, no leads, just fill the whole no. I don't know, but it's kind of like a bummer because I'm like, God, those are like historic roads. Yeah, that's so the whole thing is not cobbled, there's just sectors that are, but there's a lot of them. Okay, and it really takes people out. So Vanderpole was out, and then it was just this like race between Pugatcha and Wout. And Pogatcha's been on this tear. He I don't I shoot, I should have looked up, but I honestly don't care. Um, but yeah, so Wout, they both come into the velodrome at the same time and they do a lap and a half and then together together. Like they're I mean, they're racing, the finish, you have to do a lap and a half, and uh the finish line is approaching, and then uh Pagaccha starts sprinting, and then Wout comes around him. And there is like some tactics with the Velodrome if you're with someone, like using. So is it in the velodrome that they're doing this? Yeah, I mean that's the finish. Like you come into the velodrome, you pass the start-finish line or the finish line, uh-huh, and then you do another like lap. So it's a lap but a lap and a half. A lap and a pap. A lap and a half and a pap. And then uh and then Wout comes around him and gets the win. One? Yeah. And then he just starts crying, which I love. And his family was there, and like he was like, This is a I mean, he's wanted to win this race since 2018, and he was like, It's a huge win for me and my family. It was really I mean, and he's Belgian, um, and it's a huge deal. Huge, huge deal. I mean, like, this is his life since he was probably the age of his kids. Wow. So wow. Wow. Wow. Dang. Yeah. Okay. I and I'm starting with a lot of the positive news. There was a little bit of negative news, and by a little bit, I mean it brought me absolute rage, and not because I'm pregnant. Uh, maybe a little bit though. No. Uh-oh. So uh the broadcasters of this race, this historic event, and the women's race has been going on for, I don't know, four years now. Um, they just randomly decided that they were only gonna broadcast the last 90 minutes of the women's race. But don't worry. How long of a race is this? I mean, I think the men's race was like four or five hours. Did you watch it? I didn't watch the men's race. Okay. Did you watch the last 90 minutes of the women's? Yep. What? But what's a bummer is like Rosa Klauser, who I race against, she was in in the race and she ended up earlier in the race. I don't I don't know what happened because it wasn't fucking broadcast. She was off the front for like 40 miles. Why didn't they broadcast it? Because they hate women. What'd they say? Because they put it on the same, I don't know. They had no good excuse. Are people outraged? Yes, people are fucking pissed, and I am too, and they should be. And it we should continue to be pissed. Because it there's there's literally. There's no reason, yeah. There's no reason. It's not like it's a small race. It's on the s they moved it to the same day. Like they raced the women's and the men's race on the same day, and they broadcast all the like there's like a U-23 Ruby or like they broadcast all the- They broadcast that? Yeah. What? And remember back in 20 whatever when I raced uh Gravel World Champs in Italy, and they they didn't broadcast the women's race. Yeah, oh yeah, I do remember that. Yeah, and we found out on the way to the race, which honestly fueled fueled me. But yeah, it was it was I was so upset I couldn't even say anything online because I was like, I don't want to say something that's gonna get me in trouble. But yeah, it's fucked up. But I'll say it now. Yeah, now you can't get in trouble. Yeah, because it's on the podcast, and that's just us talking. So, anyway, sorry, I meant to I meant to say that. Say what? Uh about the women's race getting totally shafted. Yeah, that's fucked. It's so fucked up. Actually, dad even texted me last night. He was watching, he was like, Oh, I can't believe that they he he had finished the men's race, he started, he's like, The women's race is only the last 90 minutes, and I was like, Yeah, I know it's really and it was a great race. And I'll get to that. I was gonna say, yeah, tell me about that. That's well, I just was like really pissed because like Rosa and her team, like they had different team tactics, and she she was like, it wasn't their plan to end up for her to be solo off the front, but she ended up in in one of the lead groups and then ended up solo somehow. But I don't know how it played out because it wasn't fucking broadcast and there's no like video. So anyway, I just don't understand like what their excuse is. There's no excuse, they just played an excuse. No, they no, there really wasn't. They were just like they carried it. Do you think they'll make any changes? No. You don't think so? Who's putting on these races? Like who it's who are they? It's the races and how and the the networks that they use to broadcast them. So it's a complicated answer because it yeah, it's not just like one thing every time, because then they sell those rights to these different, you know, you know, channels to get it out. So it's not like you know, HBO Sports has any or Peacock or whatever I watched it on, or Flow or whatever has any say. Um, it's just like and and this is why I don't think it's it when that happened at gravel world champs in Italy, none of the European women were shocked. Like they were like so immune to it. Not that they didn't care, but I think it just happened so much, not just with broadcasting, but just like women getting like the second string, you know, and the short story, whatever. Yeah. Like it just blows. And it was a great race. It's interesting that like the US seems to be more progressive in that sense than than Europe, because I don't feel like the US is yeah. I think I maybe because like they have a little bit more to lose, like it's a little bit more vulnerable because I think people are pay like it's not as historic, if you will. What isn't uh women's bike racing has like oh I'm I'm just thinking I'm this is Yeah, because they haven't given them a fucking chance. Well, that's what I'm saying. Like in in Europe, like these races, it's just always been men. And like it to the it's so ingrained in their culture that like women aren't the same at the same level. I mean, you see it in salaries, you see it in support, you see it in the world tour. It's just really fucking frustrating. Yikes. And then it took away from us, like the viewer, a great race. Yeah, I wanted to see it from the very beginning. Anyway, that's fucked. Okay, so backstory on the women's race. I'm gonna fast forward. Well, I can only fast forward, or I can't tell you the whole thing. Yeah. Um, but yay, Rosa, good job. It was really fun to see, you know, someone we race against in gravel, like obviously. Well, not actually see, but yeah, exactly. Hear about through the grapevine. So pissed. Um, so the race plays at like it's all back together, there's attacks, and you know, I'm sure there were many more, and that's the exciting part of these races, is like it's so much more than the last little bit in the men's and the women's. So just know like before this, like there were women that you've never heard of attacking and doing all this cool stuff. Anyway, so fast forward, and we're in the last, you know, bit of the race, and um we have three women off the front, two are on the same team as uh each other. So Marianna Voss and Pauline Ferrand Bravo, they're on Visma, the same team as Wout. Um, the Yellow Bumblebees. Got it. And then Franzi Koch. I don't know actually how to spell her last name. K. Yeah, I did. I like felt it in my chest. I think it might actually be Franzi Koch, K-O-C-H. That's how they're pronouncing it. Add it to the baby name book. Could be a winner. First and last. Yep. Just mush it together. It does sound like they're saying fancy cock. I had to say it. And I love that. And we love that. Um, so she's having this insane race. She's been like pulling the group, like she's been attacking on her own. She's on the same team as Demi. Um, FD Vado. Demi Lovato. And anyway, so she she's just been like a an active player the whole race. And the three of them get away. So she's outnumbered. Um, and they're coming in to the Velodrome. And you see Pauline, you can tell that she's working for Marianna, um, because she's just on the front. And Pauline is the last year's winner of this race. It was like her first big win. She was the one who was on the bike with Pagaccha. Yes. And she won the women's Tour de France, and she won the Olympic mountain bike race. She truly is one of the best cyclists of all time. Cool. As is Marianna Voss. She's like, I think late 30s, if not early 40s. She is truly like one, she really is like the greatest of all time. Like any of these women have kids. Uh, those in this group, no, but some of them do. Okay. Um, actually, uh Lizzie D Degan, sorry, I can't pronounce her name. Dignan, Daignan. Um, she was the first winner of the women's roubay. She had just come back from maternity leave and won this race. Whoa. Uh, the first edition. Can't wait to see you there next year. Winning. Winning. Uh-huh. Crazy. Um so yes, some of them have had children. Okay. Um the ones in the lead of this particular this year. I I'm not, I don't have those stats in front of me. It hasn't come across my desk. And anyway, so Marianna, her father had just passed away. Uh-huh. And she's had a really shitty, obviously, like really brutal couple weeks. Just recently. Like that recent. Yeah. So she missed last week's because of, you know, it's just that yeah, heavy. Pauline. He he just died. I just I missed that. I wasn't paying attention. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, he just recently passed away. And I I'm assuming he was a big part of bringing her into cycling, blah, blah, blah. Um, and Pauline previously, like, there's just so much there. Pauline calls her team and she's like, hey, I want to come and work for Mariana in this in this race. And she was like, you know, sign me up, let's do it. And because like going into road races, there's like preset plans of who they want everyone to work for and why, and like what the like race goals are and plan and how to execute that. It's sort of like chess on bikes. It's crazy. I just watched a chess documentary. Oh, I I feel like have you been listening to Giggly Squad? No, did they watch it too? You're just talking about all the same documentaries that they're watching. What did they watch? Well, just what's on Netflix. Yeah, must be. Oh, is there an no, I haven't. Well, I actually fast forward what she had to say because I didn't want to hear the end of the because I want to watch the chess documentary with Magnus. Yes. Yeah, I want to. And Hans. Yeah. Okay, I won't say it. So Pauline is working for Voss, Mariana. And they're outnumbered this other girl who's never really like had or she has had a couple like close calls, and she they're like, they the three like Pauline is leading out, and then Franzi, like, she uh attacks and drops Pauline, and then Pauline crawls back to the group. So then for like a minute, it was like just gonna be Voss and Cock together into the into the Velodrome. And then Pauline catches back on, and so she's outnumbered again, and they get into the velodrome, and you're like, oh my god, this woman, this girl is against two of literally, like if you could choose the two most like prolific female bike racers, it would be those two women. And you're just like, Holy shit, how is this gonna end? Um, and I was Dylan was like, Oh, she should have gone early, like she's can't sh there's no way she's gonna outsprint Voss or Pauline, and I was like, Oh, Pauline's gonna win it. Like, that's just a classic Pauline style. Even though she said that she wanted to at that point, there was no there was nothing else that she really could have done. I mean it to to work, I mean, except for let lead out, maybe let the other woman win, right? Yeah, but you have this yeah, but you have this other person there. You can't just like sit up. Okay, okay. See? Yes. Anyway, so the three of them enter the velvet, and you have like it's like 30 seconds probably like of racing left. And it's basically if they like dropped the other one, then uh Pauline would drop back and let's. I mean, theoretically, yes. Okay. Like she would probably just like give the win to Mariana. But it's not that easy because you have all these other teams trying to win. But yes, yes, correct. Yeah, but it's not but especially if there's the three of them together going into the velodrome, Pauline can't just like sit up and be like, Yeah, you won. Yeah. So it's it's sort of like this game of like this three-way game of cat and mouse. And like, you know, we you don't actually know, like, was Pauline so tired at this point because she had been doing so much work off the front, and the goal is to always protect that rider, and Mariana is like this amazing sprinter, and then Francie is like this uh new, you know, young, very strong, obviously, racer who was clearly extremely strong the entire race. So they all three enter, and then you see Pauline start like fading back, and I can't remember it was it was Franzi started her sprint first. Because it's sort of like sometimes it's like this cat and mouse game of like you're looking behind, you know, you don't know who's gonna go when. And she started really early, and I was like, shit, that was really, really early. And then she just holds on, and Marianna got so close and she beat them both. Wow. Well, she's gonna have a big year, and then her partner, I don't know if husband, boyfriends, whoever comes up, he's crying, and like, and and then it's also like really emotional for Mariana and Pauline, because like you know, Pauline did her best, and Marianna did her best, and like she really wanted to. I mean, yeah, it's just sports crazy though. I have wait, let me just make sure. Yep. That is the right person who won't be. No, no, no, it is. I just wanted to make sure I didn't write anything else down, but yeah, it was very, a very dramatic day of bike raising. But it just like what I really wanted to talk about, because like there's uh what I hate is like reading through the comments of like, oh, or like even hearing the commentators, they were like because there was a moment that like you when Pauline was catching back on to them, um, that you were like, is she just gonna cause sometimes when you catch on, you just like keep going at your speed, and that's a one way to attack. And the commentators were like, oh, Pauline could. Could have attacked and won at that point. And I was like, they don't actually know that. Like, there's no way of knowing. I mean, I'm sure there's been tons of interviews now, but like in the moment, I was like, just because Pauline has won this race and before, and she's obviously very strong, like you just don't know that. Like, I just hate that sort of assumption. Like, oh, she held back, and that's the reason that I mean she may say that with like like they're definitive about it. I think it'd be super interesting to be a um commentator. And well, I will let you know because I have to start dipping my toe, and that's on my list too. Are you doing commentating stuff? When? Sea otter. That's I have a tomorrow schedule. You leave for that tomorrow. Uh-huh. I was gonna get into that later, but yeah. Do you want to get into it now? Because yeah, I'm curious about what that was. I don't know, I I was paying closer attention. I mean, I think the commentators do a good job. And maybe they should have just said, like, I wonder if right, you know. Because sometimes it does feel definitive, and you're like, oh, well, that's then how she was feeling and I don't know, sometimes I'm like, they couldn't be more wrong. Cause like I've you know heard race commentators talking during like watching it after I race, and I'm like, well, that's not what happened. Hmm, really? Yeah, totally. Because you just like there's no way of no like we will never know what Pauline's legs felt like, and then you know, Pogaca was talking about like Wout outsprinting him, and Pagaccha was saying like he was really fucking tired. Like his late, he was like, I knew it wasn't gonna be good for me to enter the Velodrome with Wout. Like I was just thinking about how bad of a commentator I would be, because like for a lot of reasons. Um, but mostly that like I have such a hard time saying like definitive sentences about it. No, I think he would be isn't isn't my own. Like I well, you would have too many qualifiers. Exactly. I think I'd be better at interviewing because I'm like, well, tell me about like what you were feeling in all of these things rather than like let me tell you what you were th feeling and doing all of this stuff. Well, you can help me prep some questions for the winners of Sea Otter. Is that so? Are you commentating during the races? Uh-huh. Who are you doing that with? Lifetime. No, are you by yourself? You're just yammering by yourself. Well, no, so they had it's like a whole production schedule. It's crazy. I'm seeing a different side of Lifetime Grand Prix, which I'm happy to talk about. I just feel like I've been yapping. I'm I I'm here to listen. So, uh, because obviously I'm not gonna be racing, uh, my schedule is actually I'm more nervous about Seattle going now than I think is totally different things. It's really actually I'm nervous in a different way. I just I'm like gone from like seven in the morning to like five p.m. every night, and I have like sponsor obligations and lifetime grand prix stuff that I'll be doing, but I'm gonna be learning a ton about how they broadcast this shit. Who's keeping you on schedule? I have a whole thing. What do you mean? Like I I'm actually dialed with that stuff. When somebody stops you to talk? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah. I have a whole thing. That would be yeah, if I have if I have to be somewhere, I have to be somewhere. Yeah. So um, and I do at this one. Yeah. Uh about it. So yeah, I got like they have um there's gonna be like the main con I'm gonna be like the field person. So I will be parked basically on the Laguna Seca, like the racetrack where the start finishes. Um, so I'll be commentating when they come through start finish up to like one of the corners on the track, and then they have two people, maybe one at Lauren Hall. Uh-huh. Great. And then Chemo will be in the studio, or maybe just chemo. They're gonna have two other people doing like the consistent race commentary. But I I'm not really sure because I just like I'll have these like they slot you in at these like key moments, like when the racers come through. Cause they do, I don't know, six laps or something of this course. Wow. So, and I have like a certain amount of time that I have to say the thing that's happening. What do you have to say? You just have to Well, I'm gonna be get briefed on all of that. Oh my gosh, you're gonna have to hold your giggles so hard. I feel I'm actually like really excited about it. So I mean so I am nervous. Okay, so Hannah's not the person. Well, I just am like, I mean, you can total here's my thought process the time constraint is my worry. But a minute and a half of talking actually goes by like it it's actually a lot that you can say. Yeah, my concern is that like especially at like races where it's like high energy and like like we can have serious conversations where you can like get into it and like dive down and say a lot in a short amount of time, but like when things are like fun and like you're so giggly and like I know I think that's gonna be your challenge. I think no, I've already thought about that. Yeah, I also like for me every also is like a really good quality. It just is gonna be no giggling, no giggles, you can't have any fun, no laughter. Truly, like I had to give my like hot picks, like my hot, like who I thought was gonna what? My hot picks. Wow. Yeah, wow, hot one. Um hot wings. Uh no, they asked me, and I can't share it because they're gonna share it on the screen. Oh, okay. But like who I think is gonna win the overall Grand Prix, and I'm like, I have no idea. Oh, I can't wait to hear what you said. So I didn't want to pick, like, of course, Keegan and Sophia are the like the safe picks. So shout out Keegan and Sophia. Like, we all know that the two of you have probably the highest chance of winning. I love Zan Underdog. Love Zan Underdog. I just was like not a chance you picked those guys. I didn't. No, I I mean I know that. I wasn't asking you, I know you didn't. But I did have to do, I know all the like I so they sent me the race, the start list for Sea Otter, and it shows me who's in the Grand Prix, who got wild cards, and who's in the U-23. And then it shows me everyone else who's also racing because you don't have to be in any of those to do the race. Yeah. So we have some like two, like there's Jen Jackson the Jen Jackson. That's all right, we're practicing, we're getting ready for it. Who just outsprinted Haley Batten, the Olympic silver medalist in the mountain bike last weekend. Okay. Uh she's gonna be. She's on your radar. She's on my radar. So is Kate Courtney. Practicing her name. Jen Jackson. I used to race against her with Cyclocross. Okay, Cyclocross. Anyway, she's a Canadian, she's cool, and she's gonna be strong as fuck. I know all the women. And then I have You like to do it for the men too? Yes. Oh no. Just kidding, you'll do great. Hannah, I went through everyone's Instagram. I was like, who is this? Who is this? I don't know any of them. I mean, I know I know my friends. Uh-oh. If you want Sarah to say your name in the commentating, you're gonna have to go introduce yourself. Otherwise, she's gonna be like, I don't know him. We got Simone and Siemen. You got that. I got those. Yeah. Got them. Uh-oh. I know. And there's a lot of people I don't know. And they're like, who's your hot pick? So I was just like, uh really for the men? I mean, yeah. I can't wait to know. When do you get to talk about your hot picks? After Sea Otter? I mean, I'll tell you after. Well, I know, but I want you to no, I want you to wait and tell me on the podcast. Okay. Um, okay. I'll tell you how off I was. Actually, I feel like last year, because I was watching Sea Otter from Japan. Okay. Cause I was so jet lagged. Um, I was like up in the middle of the night in Japan and I watched the entire women's race. And I called I called the top three before like the yeah, I was just like, bam, bam, bam. Wait, so am I gonna be able to like tune in and listen to you broadcasting something? I think so. Ugh, that makes me more nervous than watching you race. I honestly I'm gonna have a very I'm like, there's like with commentators, there's like the main person that describes what's happening, and then there's a person who adds color. Like the Oh, and you're the personality hire. I'm the personality higher. Okay, great. And I have very few moments. Like I'm not gonna be talking the whole time. Thank God. Phew. I was like, no, please no. Yeah. But then I'm doing like pre-show and post-show, and I think I have to be in a sea kayak at one point with the sea otters.

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Wait, say more. That's all I know. The sea kayak. Which I told them I was like, okay, I'll just bring my ginger chews because sea kayaking went horribly wrong. You're just gonna be like a barfing. Wait, what? With the sea otters? That's what they said. Aren't otters kind of nasty? I think they're kind of mean. They like drown dogs and stuff. Oh Jesus. Could they not have gotten a girl? Did that girl send you the pregnant woman swimming with the manatee thing on Instagram? I did. Yeah, some I saw I saw it. Somebody's really funny. She sent it to me too, and I was like, Oh, I have to send a Hannah. And she said she already did. Yes. Which I was like, yep, there it is. See, told you. What did we decide? It was hippos. Those were the aggressive ones. Hippos are in fact aggressive. And sea otters. And maybe sea otters. In what? Like in a I've given you all the information I have. In a bay. Um like a lot of people. Well, let's hope it's not in the aquarium. In a pool. At the zoo. DBD. Wait, what? Okay. Lots of questions about that. What do you have to do while you're doing that? I've literally given you all the information I have. They were like, yeah, we're just gonna put you in a kayak and you're gonna be with sea otters. Pretty much. That's all I know. That's all I know. I'm sure there's another. What other things are you doing? Um, I'm gonna be doing a pump track thing with little Bellas. I have a what does that mean? Uh that's like this um like girls' mountain bike development thing that started a bajillion years ago. Cool. It's super cool. Um, they're so cute. You like commentating that? What do you do? No, no, you just go and ride. I don't know. They just I I don't know what it is. I just show up. I could be talking, I could just be riding. It's a good thing you just go with the flow. Real flexible. Yeah. Yeah, you just it makes packing challenging, but also not because I'm just always in sponsor stuff. But now my sponsor stuff doesn't fit. So we'll we'll just see. I'm doing some athlete card signing events. I got a photo shoot, we got interviews, gonna talk to some brands. So you leave tomorrow, which is Tuesday, because we're recording this on Monday, and then the race is when? Thursday. Oh. Weird, right? Yeah. They did that so athletes could then because Seattle's like a big, it's a big hoopla. It's a lot of, you know, signing things and being the public face. So they did that so athletes could like get their race done first, which is really nice because the first year of the Grand Prix, I just totally smoked myself by just being at the trade show. Because you know, you the race is on Saturday, you get in, you know, Wednesday, and you have to go to the trade and you get stopped a bunch. And anyway, it just was really hard for athletes to do that. But no races on Thursday. Is there another race? Oh, there's so many races, Hannah. There's downhill races, there's mountain bike races, there's a dual slalom. Sorry, where is this? It's at the Laguna Seca, it's outside of Monterey. It's on the Laguna Seca, like Fort Ord racetrack. So there's like road races, there's crits. That was the year I won the crit on my gravel bike. Oh, yeah. And Dylan was was like, which one? The pro race? Thanks. That's crazy. Yeah. Okay. So okay, so Thursday is the like pro gravel. Gravel. Lifetime Grand Prix. Great. And then, and that's the first lifetime grand prix race, so it's a big deal. People are probably really nervous. Oh, you know who else is commentating, which is kind of sad, but good for us, um, is Melissa Rollins. Why is that sad? Because she has broken arm still. Oh good for who? Good for it's just like nice to she'll bring a unique perspective. Oh, oh, I see. I see. Yeah. Good for the listeners, bad for Melisa. Yeah. Got it. Um, but yeah, so the gravel race is on Thursday at 10 a.m. Pacific time. I love that way. I was just thinking about the commentators are just like, oh, okay, let's just like get all the like people who are like in the hospital beds and all the the pregnant chick, the broken chick. Yeah, totally. Aw. Yeah, it's gonna be a lively show, folks. Yeah, Sarah's gonna be puking after being in the kayak with the otters. You don't get your eyes chewed out by them. No, no, I think they're good. Yeah, I think that'll be fine. If they don't have babies, then I think they're kind of nicer. Yeah. Um, yeah, and then uh, you know, you just are you you hit the the masses and you you just So then Friday and it goes through Sunday? We leave like 5 a.m. on Sunday. But so then what happens on Friday and Saturday? It's just a trade show? Well, there's all these other races that are happening too. Oh, but the biggest event is the certainly not. Oh, really? What's the biggest event? I mean, they're all like it's so funny how like it's a really funny mix of people. Seattle like is mostly just a trade show, so there's like a lot of industry stuff. So Dylan's been really busy because like there's a lot of product launches happening, which seems like a silly time to launch products because it's just like there's so much buzz that you just kind of get lost. So every huge brand is there, every tiny brand is there. Like you have to have like an app to get around the trade show. So it's mostly a trade show. Okay. So you have tons of industry people there. Yeah, Dave Hagen, local, uh, shout out. He's been there for two weeks because he helps like organize. He like yeah, anyway. So, but then you have like this mixture of like you have a lot of California people, because it's obviously in California, but like you can just go and do like a road race or a circuit race. Anyone can? Yeah, totally. Cycle, they used to have cyclocross, they have downhill, they have dual slalom, they had enduro. I mean, they have like every type of bike racing you could possibly want to go. What's the headliner? There's no, it's not like, oh, I missed my opportunity. It's not like Coachella. There's no I was gonna compare, damn it, that was like number one on my list. I was on my ride today and I was like, Roubaix is like the coachella of bike racing. Well, I thought you were gonna say sea otter is. No, because what you're describing to me sounds like sea otter is the is the coachella. Like I saw a thing today that was like, how much like stuff costs? And it was like, guess how much a coffee cost?$15.$17. Okay, I saw someone's take from I really wanted to talk about Coachella because let's talk about it. So, and truly how similar it is to bike racing in some ways. Because you have all these like influencers talking about like influencer Olympics outfit of the day, Coachella day one. They're doing their bike fits, and they're doing their fucking bike fits or their like their bike check videos every day, and it's like a fucking thing. That's true. What about influencers? Like, there was all that drama about the Starbucks house and their influencers. Say what I guess Starbucks got canceled because they were either Zionists or not. I don't know. There was some something with Starbucks, and then there was like all these it like influencers were paid to go to the like the Starbucks influencer house at Coachella, and it's all grill like really gaggy to me. Huh. But you see, like, you know, everyone like posting their outfits of the day, and then you have like Bieber's a headliner, and Coachella tickets were down last year, but now they're up, they think it's Bieber, and then they think it's Bieber. Yeah, I think it's because Did you watch his performance? I didn't. Me either. So I don't have anything to say about it. I don't either, but I heard it was good because well, I heard people were like losing their shit because he hasn't performed in so long. Really? Yeah, I guess. I thought he just performed at like an award show. Yeah, and his boxers. But I think that was like an award, I think like in concerts or like yeah, if you were a true believer. Yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah, yeah. So this was like a big deal. And then Sabrina Carpenter, someone yodeled during her song, and she said, Ew, I don't like yodeling, and then she had wait, somebody in the crowd was yodeling and she was like, ugh, don't like that. There was like a pause, and then they were like, did a yodel, and she was like, ew, or like said something, but then she almost got canceled because it was something yodeling has a deep culture. It wasn't yodeling, it was like a an African or South African thing. And she was like, Now I know what this is. Oh my gosh, Coachella. Oh, Coachella. Have you ever had any desire to go literally zero? No part of me, no part of me wants to do that. After we went to that thing in Salida, I was like, fuck, Coachella. Absolutely not. I don't know how everyone doesn't get just like absolutely sunburned. Like they do. Well, they're all in like teeny tiny little outfits. How are they not getting totally fried? Well, and now because everyone's on a Zempik, uh, this guy was like kid sales are down. He was like, it's great. I went 6 p.m. to the food trucks, no lines. He was like, apparently I'm the only one eating at there's like a lot more room to like maneuver because people are just like taking less space. What that is so insane. Yucky. That is so and it's a how long of a it's like two weeks, right? There are like a bunch of different I don't know. I have no I think it's like I think it's like five days or something. I don't know anything about it. Have you watched any TikToks about it? I just saw a couple and then I my podcasts. I saw uh I think Seattle is is more similar to it. I was gonna say that sounds a lot like Coachella. Yeah. Yeah. There's no hell I would I mean, it's so funny. This like the first few years of the grant, especially like that first year that I did so horribly in the race, I was like, Dylan was like, don't even worry, like 90% of the people 90% of the people at Seattle had no idea that the first race of the Lifetime Grand Prix was going on. Like it really is just nobody in the inventory. Truly, I was like, oh, that actually made me feel better. Well, that's doesn't make any sense to me. So when you go to Sea Otter, it depends on what like genre of bike, what flavor you're into. Do more people stop you or less people stop you than when you go to other races? There's just more people. Um uh that's a good question. I think the most are probably at like mid-south and unbound. Because those are like very gravel specific. Very gravelly. But yeah, I yeah, sea otter for sure. There's just like a lot of people there, and like I'm friends with a lot of the California. Do people have to pay to go to the trade show? I think so. And camping, so like it's really it's beautiful. Like the camping there is cool, but this is Coachella, it's$150 a night to camp. This is Coachella. Okay, so Seattle is Coachella. Seattle is Coachella, yeah. Um, I saw uh one the one Coachella video I saw was this guy setting up his like camping site, and I was like, Oh, this is the most insane thing I've ever seen. Was it the one that he was like, this year I decided to go with a blow up couch? Yes. I immediately that guy pissed me off. I was like, I don't fucking care. Like he has like a whole like a whole living room set up, couldn't finish it. He's just sleeping in his car. What? Yes, I was like and he's got a changing room. I think Coachella is like more annoying than Burning Man. I think everything like starts with like good, you know, solid roots, and then it just it just gets people ruin it. Clapped out. Well, I've also been seeing this, like it's funny, like poor people Coachella. Yeah, normal people coach. That's what I've been seeing too. Yeah, it's great. They're like, here's my outfit, my top's from Target. I got it with the L uh FLDS girls. They could totally show up and be like, Yep, that's Coachella. I always get so close to calling it LSD girls. FLDS. Really different. I mean, well, when you were talking about cults, I was like, truly, I mean, we went from that cult to like the cult of cycling and like Oh, that's culty. Super culty. Like there's a garb. Oh, I know what I was gonna say. I have um a project with Rafa where I'm I had to look through a bunch of old this campaign with them, um, a bunch of old photos. So I like scrolled deep, deep in Facebook because they were looking for like, you know, your first time doing all these rides, or like, you know, and I my first time doing these things was in like 2008. And it's like when I would carry a digital camera around. And it is it actually kind of made me like I mean, a lot of this the shit was really cringy because of my outfits were just so insane. I can't wait to see those pictures. Oh my god, I was like, whoa, I can't post that one. Oh, why? No, no, I mean I will, but they're it's just funny because like it just but it made me like sad because it was like it was long before Instagram. Like I didn't have Instagram until I graduated college. And you know, we didn't have like iPhones with like cameras. So like the way that you interacted with cameras was so different. Like my smiles were like, you know, your smile was different? Yeah, or like everyone's like I, you know, I was looking through photos of like my first trip to Europe with my graphic design class, and like yeah, just like you behave like you know, you posed for photos differently. Like now, I mean, and part of it is like my job is very much like being on that side of the camera anyway, but like, yeah, like there there weren't a ton of photos of me. racing back then Yeah because you didn't have a photographer following you around I mean no one like well it was also collegiate but yeah it was just I don't know it was just like funny and like kind of sad yeah just everything so like kids now like you know so different they call it Instagram face. Like you have Instagram face. So like I s I saw this TikTok that was like it's why like people get really upset with how um actors and actresses are cast for like period pieces because they're like Timothy Chalamet would never you know be a person like he it's just unbelievable to have him like cast in like a you know an older period piece because he has Instagram face like he's really aware of what his face is doing at all times. And like I thought it was like a filler. Uh no I was gonna say because I have no fucking clue what my face is doing ever. Having the podcast and like seeing clips I'm like oh that's what my face looks like when I do that no I just have to like really change it don't want to I think some people that like um but I don't ever do talking at the camera totally I think that makes the difference what changes people. Yep. And that was and that was really apparent that there was like there wasn't that culture of like oh take a photo and then like I mean there was a little bit but it was like cumbersome because we're on a digital camera and you can't see it it's tiny screen. Yeah they're like oh let me see the photo out you just like took the photo and went on with your life. Yeah like there yeah it's just you don't have that like instant feedback of yeah yeah and I mean we've talked about that before like some it's like truly like the most annoying part of my job is to just like always I would hate that so much. Yeah I mean I can't imagine being a famous person. Ugh ew and judged for being at Coachella I mean yeah the influencer stuff I just am like yucky yucky poo-poo it's funny I find it very funny the shorts that people are wearing those aren't shorts it's nuts those are bandanas yeah it's so insane and panties and the shoes I'm like aren't you guys on your feet literally all day long? Like how are you wearing is it hot or cold? I can't tell I'm wearing like based on the sandals I'm not sure based on the outfits I have no idea I'm like I know I'm just like making myself look this sounds so old but I'm like I don't know they have baggy shorts with a bikini top and then like a puffy down. So I'm like I don't know it's like my boots yeah for comfort no the nothing looks comfy like they're in heels on like on grass like what are you doing just aerating the grass I don't understand it. It's not for me and that's okay it's not supposed to be for me. Oh my gosh it's for some other people who probably are having so much fun just getting so sunburned. Looks like fun okay there is uh this sorry last thing and then we can wrap it up but there is the this pregnant girl who has like two million followers or something um she's this British chick and she is also six months pregnant and she is I mean she's very thin but like she sort of looks just naturally that way um I mean her face definitely looks different. She's one of those people it she has no baby bump none. She is six months six months pregnant and it is it's not non-existent. So wild everyone just carries so differently but then she was like I mean she's this beautiful girl she's you'd be pissed she was bummed yeah I bet she's I mean she was she's like funny but she it was really interesting. I was like oh god pregnancy is so insane but she was like yeah like I picked out all my Coachella outfits knowing that I was gonna be pregnant and she was like and I just thought there was gonna be more of a bump and like everything she tried on you could tell she was like a little bit disappointed because like her body looks like a normal skinny person's body but like it definitely looked different than her normal body you would there was no way that you would know she was pregnant at all. I feel like you would really rock the Coachella outfits this year. I feel like you'd do some pretty pretty good stuff. And I think you should do that at Sea Ball. I'd like to see your Sea Otter outfits. I guess that's what we're gonna pack for after this yeah yeah can't wait to see them. Yeah tune in I am really excited for next week because I feel like you're gonna have a lot to say take notes remember things. Yeah and then next week I'll have two just put it on the notes app that we have with mom since we can never figure out how to do a shared note but mom somehow has to I know we need to get back into that because I think I actually like having our own separate notes. Oh really okay well then I need to just make notes yeah you do during the week I do I don't I think I'll remember them no write them down it doesn't remember most it doesn't hurt to write them down. I know you don't even remember them when you've written them down to say on the podcast five minutes ago I just missed that one the biggest one you're taking notes um yeah it's gonna be a big week of coachella coachella otter secochella secochella otter go secuchella otter ride oh god um I'm trying to think if there's anything no I think that's probably it keeps stopping on the ground that sounds good yeah if you do want to come to any of my things that I'll be at I'll post a story so you'll have 24 hours to see it. I can't wait to listen to you commentate. Oh well now you made me nervous no you'll do great I I'm glad that you're not the main content. Oh me I mean I've never done it before. Yeah you're gonna be a different different story because it's gonna be like 10 hours of us. And you have to do it in Spanish. Yeah thank God Maya speaks Spanish okay okay um well great I'll see everyone most people who listen actually I don't know maybe we'll see you at Sea Otter. I won't be there I won't be there all right well it's weird when we don't have a sponsor to thank well we do with pace and Lily those guys are the best um and if somebody wants to sponsor us that'd be great you know what you should do at Sea Otter is go around and get the fucking sponsors for us Sarah I know I was thinking on my ride I was I meant to send three different emails this week and it's just been crazy. Tomorrow today maybe tomorrow probably tomorrow but for next week it would be great it'll be great all right bye