Talking Over You
Hannah and Sarah Sturm grew up in the same household, live in neighboring towns, and hang out all the time. But in one respect, they couldn’t be more different: Sarah is a professional cyclist while Hannah has spent most of her life successfully avoiding bikes at all costs. They both know that Sarah has a weird job, and Hannah isn’t afraid to ask the sorts of questions that most people in the bike world would be too embarrassed to ask. Why is there a Queen Stage but not a King Stage? How old is gravel racing? Does everyone pee in their chamois? And most importantly, why on earth would anyone choose this as a job? Join the Sturm sisters every week to hear them laugh about their vastly different careers, argue about their shared memories, and drop unfiltered takes on just about everything.
Episodes
53 episodes
Swan ears, aero boobs, and Sarah’s sense of smell
The only good thing about Sarah’s 40+-week pregnancy is that she’s been able to watch the Tour de France Femmes, and she even managed to get Hannah to watch some of it with her. In this episode, they debate whether big boobs are more aero, cele...
Laini Bones on taking men's Strava crowns
If you’ve been on social media lately, chances are you’ve seen Laini Bones trash-talking and throwing heavy objects. For the past few months, her social media following has ballooned from a handful of family and friends to over 200k. Her specia...
Lightning crotch, the end of the Tour, and tongues
Sarah went to the doctor to discover that she is 0% dilated, so she’s been trying every method (scientific and anecdotal) to get the baby out. She was still able to watch the Tour, though, and she gives Hannah a detailed audiobook version of Se...
Jimothy, the Tour de France, and Sarah’s RPE
Sarah is still pregnant and getting less enthused about it with each passing day. This week on the show, she explains why baby brands need to rethink their marketing and why she might just name her newborn after a raccoon. Plus, she and Hannah ...
Elephant seals, grabbling davils, and the Hardrock 100
This week on the show, Hannah shares about her new love of seals after a trip to the California coast, Sarah tries to explain the hierarchy of professional cycling, and they both get to grips with birthing positions. They also discuss Kate Cour...
Michelle Parker on freeskiing, pregnancy, and living alongside grief
Michelle Parker is a multi-hyphenate winter sports athlete and filmmaker who has been skiing since she was one year old. This past year, her life has gone through many changes. Her dad passed away after a long illness, she and her partner got p...
Western States, Hannah’s shin, and Sarah’s glottis
This week, Sarah and Hannah talk about the historic Western States ultrarace in which multiple course records were made, and why all the World Cup soccer players are wearing sports bras. Sarah talks about her last birthing class, a turbo-charge...
Norman, gravel artists, and hairography
This week, Sarah reveals the shocking results from Norman’s DNA test and Hannah talks about a recent experience with beer pong. Plus, they discuss the standout performances this week from two American female riders and their changing emotions a...
Hospital people, World Cup drama, and Strava
This week, Sarah and Hannah talk about the success of crownhole at Sarah’s baby shower, her visit to the maternity hospital with her birthing class, and the drama surrounding the women’s XCO World Cup in Leogang. They also attempt to discuss so...
Balloons, the Giro, and boa constrictors
Sarah and Hannah spent a lot of time together this week, and they’re still cooling off from a hike-related argument. They catch up on some loose ends from last week (the PCT OnlyFans hiker, a high-profile lawsuit in the outdoor industry, and th...
BONUS: Dispatches from Unbound (ft. Cecile Lejeune, Ruby Ryan, Payson McElveen, and Dominique Powers)
This year's Unbound was a mudfest that, for better or worse, produced some excellent stories. In this bonus episode, we hear from riders Cecile Lejeune, Ruby Ryan, and Payson McElveen about their most memorable mishaps from the day, and get an ...
Unbound, lab coats, and ChatCBD
This week is (almost) all about Unbound, which took place over the weekend. Sarah was commentating for the live broadcast and got to see firsthand just how wrecked the equipment and riders were by the mud and storms. Hannah was watching the liv...
The Iron Horse, truffle pigs, and crickets
This week, Sarah talks about riding the Iron Horse Classic in Durango last week and contending with an unexpected amount of backlash about it. She and Dylan also went to a breastfeeding class where she learned some pretty mind-blowing facts abo...
The Cocodona, swamping, and ageing in cycling
This week on the show, Sarah brings an unprecedented level of organisation to discuss the Cocodona 250 (an ultra running event in which a woman won both the men’s and women’s fields), the drama at the Traka 560, and a new non-cycling trend know...
The Traka, driving in Europe, and jelly beans
Sarah is back from Spain and has stories to tell. She narrowly avoided a virus outbreak at Rapha team camp, continued her commentating career, raced the Traka 100, and nearly got arrested (again) over a situation with a rental car (again). Plus...
Rapha team camp, adult braces, and weight loss in cycling (with Danni Shrosbree)
Sarah is in Spain at the Rapha training camp this week, so she sat down with Danni Shrosbree to talk about peeing (obviously), shoes, and adult braces. They also discuss the ongoing attention surrounding weight management in cycling, especially...
Sea Otter, soup, and sea lions
Sarah embarked on her temporary career as a race commentator this weekend at Sea Otter, and she had a packed schedule. Not only did she do live in-field reporting during the pro race, but she also narrowly avoided getting arrested while trying ...
FansOnly, Paris-Roubaix, and Coachella
There are a lot of bike things to talk about this week, which means that Hannah is forced to do a lot of listening. Seriously, though, Paris-Roubaix was so exciting and emotional in both the men’s and women’s races that Sarah has a lot to say, ...
Passover, bike messengers, and flopsy (ft. Margie Weinstein)
Sarah and Hannah are back together this week to celebrate a belated Passover. They reminisce about the Easter egg hunts they never had as children and try to remember the name of Sarah’s least favourite party game. Hannah got to talk to a forme...
Galileo, The Hills have wheels, and leather chamois
Hannah’s been having the time of her life in Denver this week while Sarah shopped for pants at Costco in Albuquerque. They have a lot to catch up on, but first, they get sidetracked by which Enneagram personality they are. Later, they talk abou...
Lady Whistledown, the Cape Epic, and race coverage
Sarah and Hannah are back from Mid South after a very stressful return journey that ended in free ice cream. Sarah has some grievances to air and also some pregnancy purchases to discuss, while Hannah has a theory that connects gravel to the Ne...
BONUS: Mid South post-race interviews (ft. Sofia Gomez Villafane, Cobe Freeburn, Gee Schreurs, and Cecile Lejeune)
While at Mid South, Sarah and Hannah caught up with four pros after their races (including the winners of the men’s and women’s fields) to ask them questions about their flaws, their earrings, their pronunciation of female anatomy, and washing ...
Live from Mid South: Woodworking, tantrums, and pregnancy clauses
It might have been Hannah’s nightmare, but it turns out that recording a live podcast (at a bike race, no less) can actually be extremely fun. The Sturms sat down in front of a live audience in Stillwater, Oklahoma, over the weekend to talk abo...
Sarah’s news, manatees, and ebikes
It’s finally time for Sarah to explain why she’s been lying to everyone for approximately four and a half months. This week on the show, she shares the news that only some of her friends guessed (the rest thought she was quitting cycling), and ...
Aqua-mittens, foot tires, and cat bejewelling with ultra-runner Abby Hall
The Sturms are back behind the mic after their winter hiatus and have finally enlisted the help of an actual runner to discuss the ins and outs of a sport they know nothing about. Abby Hall is one of the top ultra-runners in the world, having w...