Talking Over You
Hannah and Sarah Sturm grew up in the same household, live in neighboring towns, and hang out all the time. But in one respect, they couldn’t be more different: Sarah is a professional cyclist while Hannah has spent most of her life successfully avoiding bikes at all costs. They both know that Sarah has a weird job, and Hannah isn’t afraid to ask the sorts of questions that most people in the bike world would be too embarrassed to ask. Why is there a Queen Stage but not a King Stage? How old is gravel racing? Does everyone pee in their chamois? And most importantly, why on earth would anyone choose this as a job? Join the Sturm sisters every week to hear them laugh about their vastly different careers, argue about their shared memories, and drop unfiltered takes on just about everything.
Talking Over You
Sea Otter, soup, and sea lions
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Sarah embarked on her temporary career as a race commentator this weekend at Sea Otter, and she had a packed schedule. Not only did she do live in-field reporting during the pro race, but she also narrowly avoided getting arrested while trying to enter the venue. Somehow, she almost had to sing the national anthem at the start line, too. Meanwhile, Hannah was taking copious notes about the YouTube live chat during the event. They discuss all of this and more in today's episode.
More info about Sarah's nutrition plan can be found here: https://us.fullscript.com/welcome/kchannell/store-start
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Welcome to Talking Over You with Sarah Sturm and Hannah Sturm. Here we go. If you're gonna be an asshole, at least be funny. At least be funny. I thought it was a man coon. We need to have like a real athlete on here. It makes me consider different careers every time I have to pee in my chamois. How are you feeling? Super crouchy. Really? Yeah. I was enjoying being pregnant at Seattle, and then um today I don't. Like it. There it is. Which part? Um I'm just tired and overwhelmed and everything hurts. It's probably like it and I'm tired because I didn't race like tired from racing is different. Because you're like, oh, even if you have a shitty race. Well, it also like you know, I've been to one race now, so I have a really clear idea of how this works. But I mean the come down after like when you get back from an event is huge. Yeah. It's huge. Uh oh. Water bottle just made a crazy noise. So like I imagine it's all of that, plus you are pregnant and probably more tired than normal. It's just and you did a lot. I know. Oh god. What? Well, your nails still look cute. Oh, thank you. The bummer about having gel nails, and any person, male or female, who has experienced this scenario will know exactly the pain that I'm talking about. When you slip on something and then catch your nails on it, so like luggage, my like luggage handle. If I like go to like, oh, and then that's usually how I break it. Grab it and then you like breaking nails. Like even that. Did you break one? No, well, I chipped the side of this one. But I was trying to open our like sliding window door thing at the in the hotel room, and it was like stuck, and I slipped. And literally, these three fingernails, I don't know how they all didn't snap off. Like my I couldn't nails on. I couldn't, like they were so bruised from doing that that I couldn't even scratch like my head without my nails hurting. Oh no. And if Roscoe listens to this episode, he's gonna be like, shut the fuck up about this. Because you kept talking about it. It hurts so bad. I could feel my pulse. Oh, yeah. Well, nail stuff hurts. I was complaining about my nails because I do a lot of dishes. I got my ass handed to me on Saturday night at the shop playing on this plate. Yeah, and well, complaining over you. Um my turn to complain. I was doing a lot of dishes uh because I got my ass handed to me at the shop on Saturday night, and I like ran out of glassware. And so I was like, hold on a second, I need to go wash some, but we have this like scrubby thing for doing our dishes that it's like natural bristles. One of the fucking bristles under my nail. I can I can see it under there. Oh god, that like really makes my skin crawl. Well, you know what really fucks your nails up is hot water. So Sophia's dishwashing hack of wearing gloves. Yeah, I hate how it feels. Oh, really? I don't love it. I don't like gloves. I should get them for the funny. It's like one of the most endearing things. I can picture her, Sophia. But the thing is, I've never seen her in like normal clothes. So I in my head, she's in a full race kit and and like rubber gloves doing dishes. I just think it's funny because Keegan's like, no, I don't wear those. I can see Jeff wearing them, but not me. Dylan and I would have to get two different sizes. That's true. Yours would just fall off if you wore his trying to do this. Oh my god. Okay, let's see. We have a lot, we do have a lot to get to. Yeah. Um, I was really excited for Sea Otter. Like it's actually like everyone loves to complain about it because it is so overwhelming. Yeah. Like it is Coachella. It truly is Coachella. Seems like it. But it's like if you were having to work coachella. Coachella. Coachella. Coachella. Cousin type. Yeah. So it's like, and oh, oh, actually, I'll start with this. It's on the Laguna Seca race, like F1 course. It's like a racetrack, like a car racetrack. Got it. But then there's all this, like, there's these beautiful rolling hills. Like, I'm sure you've seen the photos from like the mountain bike race. It's pretty. Like, there's like single track out there, and then there's like they do all the like road racing around the like racetrack that you start on, and then the whole trade shows on the racetrack. But the entire venue is up this hill, um, and there's two entrances in, and it's California traffic, so there are these two-lane highways to get in and out, and it's always a heinous clusterfuck trying to drive in and out because everyone's doing it, and depending on like I mean, luckily for the Grand Prix, it's early enough, it's like the Thursday, but by the time Saturday hits, it's it is full on, and it's it's more efficient to ride there. Um but I was one of the days I had lots of things to do before, like I had literal, like did a podcast with Payson right in the like he was kind enough to come to my hotel, did a podcast, did the the sea kayaking thing, right? Like I was like texting, you know, Michelle in it during our podcast, like, hey, I'm running 10 minutes late, and you have to drive everywhere because like anyway, which I probably didn't have to because it might just be faster to ride, but I was like bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. So, like, pack for the morning. I had a you know, my osprey pack full of six different outfits. I have the minivan with my bike just rolling around in the back, rode it two times. Okay, and so I'm like, I've done all three things already in the morning, and I'm driving up to the venue, and I have I have to be there for uh a coffee thing at the Orange Seal bus. This is after the sea kayaking. Well, yes, of course. After the race. I'm trying to, yeah, okay, great. That was a good thing. I don't know what day it was. It was like it was after Thursday. One or two days after the race. Okay. And I'm like driving up there. I go to the steep entrance first, because that's usually the faster way. And I had a media pass from working with Lifetime, which was great. I'm media. I'm media. Uh the M media. Uh, and you know, a guy, they always have the same people working there. They're really nice, but like they don't, they're not psych like they're just event people. Yeah. And they were like turn turning everyone around. And he was like, This this entrance is closed. I've literally never been to Seattle when an entrance was closed. And I was like, Okay, god damn it. Like, now I have to add 15 minutes on and go I I thought for sure you were gonna say, and then I talked to him and I had a word and he let me through. They are they are experienced. There was no, they were like, turn it, turn it around, and I was like, I was like, what do you mean? You tried to turn it around. Yeah, for sure. I tried, and they were like mooing me along, and there were cones. I wasn't even literally they're physically moving your mini fan of minivan. They're experienced, they know what they're doing. I was like, okay, that's really bad and annoying. And Roscoe sent me a different way up, so I like intersected with this other entrance because you have to otherwise it's like a 20-minute detour. So I'm like going up there, and this cop is blocking everyone. So then I cop blocking. Cop blocking. You hate to see it when you're like and you've already been turned around once, and I'm like, everyone's turning around again. I was like, surely not me. Like, surely I will explain the situation. Rules don't apply. We know this about you. For sure, of course. So I'm in the minivan and I'm like, I was like, hello. I'm pregnant. I'm pregnant media. What else do you need? Let me in. And I was like, well, that couldn't, that certainly couldn't be, sir, because that that way is they said no, and that was closed. And he was like, no, they were wrong. They they got it wrong. And I was like, what do you mean? What do you mean? My eyes are bugging out. And I was like, Well, if they're I I told him, I was like, so you're telling me that's my only option right now. And he was like, Yeah, you have to go back that way. And I was like, Sir, if you are wrong, you are going to see this minivan on the evening news tonight because I would be driving quickly up the corkscrew, which is the race course. And then he kind of laughed, and I was like, Thank God he didn't just cough me up. Um, anyone's ever like traveled with Sarah or done any like I have, I have like it's pretty high. Like it it takes me a minute to get to the point where I'm like, what do you mean? What do you mean? It does it? It does. There's a lot, there's a lot of things. That seems like a fair opportunity to yeah, be upset. So then when you went back, it was a well, actually, it wasn't open, but I slalomed the cones and that minivan was on two wheels. Did you look for the guy to be like, you were wrong? He they weren't there. But if he was, I would have told him. I know you would have. This I know. And I'm like, I just like it would have been so well, Payson explained to me on his podcast that he had a similar thing driving to the race in the morning. Ugh. And they got like in so much traffic that he had to get out. I mean, luckily he was like, did you have to walk in his little clippity clomps? I think he was saying he was like doing his like activations like on the hill. I don't know what that means. It's like just for me, it's just like Kegels. He's doing his keegels. He's basically doing like leg keegles. Yeah. His leg Keegans. Oh, we're back in race mode. Yeah, we are. Let's fucking go. Anyway, so that was like day three or something, anyway. But the starting off with the Yeah, I was like, okay, how do you want to go about this? Do you want to do it chronologically? Even though I know that doesn't work, but let's just let's just give it a try. And we'll just bop around from there. Um, but yeah, I like in the airport, um, I'm like on a meeting with the lifetime. I I saw a fully different side of the sport and specifically the lifetime grand prix. I can't wait to hear about it. I've always been an athlete for them. Yeah. And I know that the production is pretty massive because like even you know, being an athlete, even the first few years, you know, you like show up to Sea Otter and it's like media day, and you get your like they give you like these cool packs with like gear and like it's all branded stuff that makes you feel special. And boy, they've really like each year they've just upped the ante. And then they've also like really done the same thing with like the live streaming and broadcasting. Um, I guess I'll just call it live streaming because that's what it was. It wasn't a broadcast, but but yeah, it was it was really cool to see that side. I mean, it was I mean, I was working with like prof like people who get like paid, that's what their jobs are. Actually, I got to hang out with Lauren Hall all day, which is so great. Lovely, and she comes into the shop all the time and she listens to the pod. Loves the shop, and chemo, yeah, he seemed awesome too. They're so wonderful, and it's so funny because I'm like I've heard them talking about my races like when I'm in them, but it was fun. It was it was crazy, especially um when we recorded the pre like the pre-show stuff. That's what I was really nervous for. Well, that's when I so I you know, you know I was nervous about all of it, but I was like, Oh, I'm gonna watch the I know I was I that was so cute that you watched it. I watched all of the things. Jeff at one point walked by and he goes, Wow, you couldn't pay me enough to watch, or he's like, I can't believe you're using your day off to watch your sister talk on a live broadcast on a bike race. He's like, That's the craziest thing. And I was like, that is crazy. What am I displaying? That is crazy. Get out, get out. No, I well, I was curious. Because you have a different perspective. You also have a different perspective, too, because we've been doing this and you've seen the scene. Yeah. Well, and that's how I was like, oh, this is this is higher production value because Sarah is in a totally different mode, right? Like, I was like, oh, this is like she's prepared, she has notes. I'm talking about for the um what was the first thing called? The um the lead-in or whatever. Oh yeah, the lead out. Or maybe it was lead-in. Well, a lead out is a thing that in a sprint. So I think it was called the lead out. Okay, whatever. Yeah, the like pre-show from the day before. That was the thing that I I didn't I said yes to and I didn't really know what they meant. But um I thought it was gonna be more like you j we just had to hit cues and we had like it was all I the spreadsheet was crazy, like I it didn't really make sense to me because that's not how my brain worked, but then one uh when we got on the meeting and they were like walking through a like a slideshow, because like the whole like media team, like half of it is in boulder. Okay, so they're like those are the people that are like enroll camera one and cue camera six and zoom in on camera, you know, and so we have to like hit these cues, and each of us had a talking point, and we went through um by the by the end, I was like, okay, I they had like uh they had a cue card. Oh, you had like a teleprompter? No, not with what we were saying, and what was really impressive the shit that I am the worst at that I was like, I hope to god I don't have to like hit certain talking points. What chemo did, the intro, I am so bad at that stuff. Just like reading the like to hit like, and welcome to Seatter, and thank you for joining us here, blah blah blah, and yeah, this many people and that and this point and this point. Is she reading it often? He had it on an iPad. No, he was just he just he's quite good. He's quite good. He's also chemo's the one the lifetime grand prix his brainchild. Really? He came up with the idea when he was like on his deathbed from this like crazy back injury, like he almost died, and then he was like on recovery. Whoa. Um, and I can't sorry, Chemo, I can't remember what it was that you were recovering for from, but it was like a really gnarly uh diagnosis, surgery, and then recovery. Uh-huh. And um, yeah, he came up with the Grand Prix. Wow. Cool. Love that. Didn't know that. Yeah. Which is crazy that he's so good, like he really has a voice for radio. And I mean, so does Bill. And look, like they're all really good. Um you did really I I was really impressed, truly. You did you did really well. There was one uh so they had us choose our hot picks. Yeah. And I felt like that that was really fun. But I, you know, it's the beginning of the season, like there's so many new athletes that we didn't know. Yeah. And there was one moment that I blacked out and I was like, I don't know anything about this kid that I picked. It was like and they say dark horse just dark horse. I know, and totally, and I was like, I don't know, he's so strong. Um really fast on a bicycle, I think. Like asked me about him, and I was like, you know, sometimes I just have to throw in a random pick. Well, I feel like I can usually like watch things, especially with you, and like see what's actually happening like behind the scenes in your brain. But for a lot of that, I was like, oh, this is really like scripted and rehearsed, or not scripted, but like well rehearsed. Because I was like, Sarah normally wouldn't be like this organized in her thoughts, yeah, but you did really well with all of it. Yeah, and we're just like the whole race and that live cast is a different conversation because there's a lot more to talk about in that. I have so many things to say. I took meticulous notes.
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SPEAKER_00Um, not that it was bad, it was also great. Oh god, it was. I mean, I don't know, yeah, really. I mean, it was so yeah, we got through the pre-race, the pre-race show, and that was the thing that I was like mostly nervous for. Totally. I could see why. Yeah, it was just like it was in the studio, it was very stuffy, it's not necessarily like the thing I like to do. Um, I was you and Lauren did really well back and forth. Like you had some really nice um exchanges back and forth. Yeah, it feels a little more corporate for me. Totally. Like, and and that's you know, yeah, it's funny I just don't want those settings. I I can shape shift because it's like, I mean, uh yeah, I can shape shift a little bit, but I'm it's just like not what I like to do. Yeah. Fair. Uh, but yeah, then the next day, so like after that, but also like the day goes by so quickly, like there's so many things you have to hit and like, you know, photo things and yeah, it just was like, okay, a wild way to start the weekend. And then the next day, you know, we had a call time of like 8 15. And I actually was really on time. This is race day. I was really on time to everything. Did you and no one else was, which was crazy. Really? That is crazy. Did you wrangle yourself or did you have anyone wrangle you? Like when I wrangle, I I really wrangle myself. Like wrangle hard. I do. I'm like, I'm when I'm really well Ellen always laughs. I'm like either like really, really early or like just barely make it on time. I was thinking about you today while I was like on my walk because I was like, okay, I was like in my head doing all of this like time calculation stuff where I was like, okay, I need to finish this walk at this time so that I can have this amount of time to get ready for this. And I was like, in a lot of I know, in a lot of ways, I'm like kind of jealous of that because you really are like in the moment. Maybe I have maybe I have a better sense of time because I just kind of wing it. That's not it. We know that's not it. No, but you I think you are more present in what you're actively doing at that time because you're not so much thinking about like hate watching the clock. Yeah, well, and I do so much of it just being like, uh, okay, I've got to get I've got to turn around now because I have to get home at this amount of time. Like, yeah, yeah. And I do that okay. Like I knew on my ride that I would well see and I didn't think like when I was halfway, I was like, oh wait, did Hannah Mean like be ready to film at 1.30? Or but I made it home right at one, like literally 129.54. No, I did. I looked at my clock. That was not what time it was. Yes, it was. I looked at my I looked at my clock when I was pulling in and it was 128. Yeah, it was one twenty, but I had already been here and gone and looked at every room in the house and gone outside and then went back to the garage and was like, Dylan, where's Sarah? She took a minute and a half, and then I showed up. Okay, well, we were both here around 1.30. But yeah, it can't be really in the minute, which is why on race day in the moment in the moment. Each minute in the moment. I literally didn't sit down. I drank one bottle of water for seven and a half hours. Your baby's like, fuck, mom, sit the fuck down. Yeah. Um, I packed a banana, but it was back in the the backpack that was at the start finish, and like I just didn't I we weren't sure like how much time we would have to like go back and forth. And like you're just watching the race, so I should have just had I just should have been carrying the backpack with food in it with me. But there wasn't like a ton of time. Um yeah, it was crazy. But I I did my like I started my Garmin at the beginning of the day just to see like how far I walked and then how long I was on my feet for. Uh I wasn't super stressed, but I did I walked like six and a half miles and um had one cookie and a bottle of water? Yeah. Yikes. I mean I had breakfast. How do you feel? I felt fine. Honestly, today I felt the worst. Yeah. Um, but yeah, it was so on race day. So we have like, you know, they have the call time, we all meet, like also it's insane. So, like, just so people know, I was trying to explain to uh one of the racers, but ever all of us have a binder that like the lifetime team has prepared a binder of information for the commentators, yes. Okay, uh-huh. Okay, it seems like there's too many consonants in that word. Yeah, there are a lot of yeah, common potators. You guys are the common potators. And and they hand them each. I mean, it makes sense too. I guess I should have looked over the binder, um, but I wasn't handed it before the live uh they're the pre-race show. But it has every and it's all super color-coded, organized graphs. There's like data on like uh race careers, pronunciations on names, injury updates, every possible piece of it on every single that's what 60 riders. And and I was like, I was talking to this woman, Megan, who works for Lifetime, and I was like, Did you prepare these? These are incredible. And she was like, Oh, well, I use Claude, the AI. Yeah. And I was, and she was like, Yeah, it runs, it basically follows our careers, like social media stuff, media hits, anything relevant, and it pulls constantly into these files, and so she prints it off for each. Whoa, it's so sick. Well, I that's I was like, damn, that is kind of one of my questions because I remember hearing, like, I think it was chemo during the race, like somebody moved to a different position or something. The funny thing is, I actually don't feel like I watched the race at all. I just was like paying attention to the common potatoes. That is at like that was the common potatoes are truly more entertaining. Well, and then I was like, oh my god, he knows everything about every single one. I mean, actually chemo some kind of like thing, but that makes a lot of sense. I mean, but you can't really follow too much, like they'll keep in touch and like talk to like the top, you know, five or the contenders. Like they know a lot, they know a lot about them. Are there tabs where you're like, okay, there's Sophia's tab, go to that and like they should. They should have that. Cause it is hard to like slip through. I mean, I wasn't I just was out in the field. I was the field reporter. Like, don't give her a binder. She's never gonna fucking look at it. I wouldn't have. They are correct. Correct. I would have before and after. After you've been like, oh, there's a binder. That's crazy. Yeah. I mean it sounds like that's what happened. That is what happened. Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00But it is crazy. Like as a race, like people get so irritated. And I was also getting irritated like, you know, one of them would mispronounce one of the uh girls' names or something and I'm like, it's this. I have a lot to say about the the live chat that was happening. Oh yeah I wasn't watching the race I was watching the the chat the chat race on YouTube to say yes. Because then there's also the social media oh I wasn't looking at that Instagram once and that's what I watched oh no maybe I was on the live chat. Did you look at any of that? No no no no good because I've got oh god oh no it was it was fun for me it's so entertaining and also awful like the people oh people just don't know people just don't know yeah and they just want to complain. Yeah totally that's they just want to complain about everything. That being said we'll get into the other stuff later. Well now I want to know Well do you want to know? Well I'll just I mean I'll just say the just so people can like because I had no idea but basically like there was the studio that was at a totally different part of the course and then there's the start start line finish line people that are on the like loudspeaker that all the fans that are there can hear. That's what I thought you were going to be doing. I kind of did too okay but I'm kind I'm really glad I wasn't because that you just have to talk constantly yeah I mean while I know I could do that you could you could I really I wanted to be more about like you have to be that's more corporate like you have to be really um neutral sure for that yeah even though some aren't but okay yeah I mean I've heard like oh Sarah looks like she's really suffering on this lap really fuck thanks yeah oh see every time I feel like they always say a crowd favorite well yeah yeah yeah totally they always give you that um which just means she's not gonna win but people really like her they like her either way you know who's the crowd favorite for the men is one of Baby Braden no Cam. Alexi Oh funny that's always like they say Alexi crowd favorite oh funny uh it's because he's got a dog he's got the wiener he's got Willie Willie's really how I was like okay nobody can say anything nice on the live chat because they're like the guy with the dog that's a little weird and I was like the fuck oh my god how can you possibly say something negative about Alexei. I'm just getting like a dog um because I'm dying are you well okay I'll just say like so my job I went out with like poor camera guy Jared was my my camera guy and he and I just I mean I just felt bad for him like oh god he's gonna have to tag along with a pregnant bitch but we were covering they tried to get us e-bikes which in some ways I'm like kind of bummed that we couldn't go to other spots in the course but I'm also kind of stoked that we didn't have them because we got to like kind of focus on you know just a smaller chunk of mileage. Yeah um and like where we were on the track we could see them like coming in and then leaving the track so you got to see them two times which is kind of nice for commentary. But um yeah so I they basically trained me on this app so it's basically like this walkie talkie that you can like communicate with the comms team. So like the whole there's like the camera guy had a running like his one headphone in that was just listening to the dude talking in Boulder who talks the like he's the one that's like go helicopter okay zoom in on camera he's not there he's doing this remote from yeah there's a guy remote from boulder that's literally like talking the entire time like cueing all the cameras and like and then he's talking to the dude who's with all the folks in the media room like Lauren and Bill and those guys and then there's that guy you know who I like I could also caught if I was like wanted to like talk to the the media room guys but then my camera dude is listening to all of the communication going on behind the scenes that you can't hear and I didn't he was like you don't need to hear that I want to hear that yeah totally it's just it's just constant chatter but like think about him having to focus on that and then also be in this race environment it's like those drone operators who were like you know the kid on the back of the like four by four thing flying the drone. That would make me so car sick too. I could he sits back do that too oh my god I literally put the VR goggles on oh what yeah and he flies the like high speed drone and tries to not kill us with it during the race I can't sit in the car and read a text message. Well that job is off the table for you then isn't that crazy that is but the like camera guy I'm like oh I feel like someone with ADHD would really excel at that because like he's like yeah sometimes I have another another headphone in with a different feed so you're listening to two at the same time which is crazy. Wow so then I had one one going with on my phone um that was just hearing like Lauren and chemo and Bill like in their race car watching the live I could watch it but it was kind of hard to see because it was so bright out yeah so his little camera stick had a monitor that faced me so I could watch what was happening but it was real it was impossible to see it while I was talking onto the mic. Yeah. And then he on that same stick he was filming like you know me. So I could hear it and then I would turn it down or I would uh walkie talkie into this other woman uh that would cue the guy in at the media team and I'm like hey I'm in position let me know um I can you know comment on the woman up the road who just attacked and like personal anecdote on her and you know like or I'm here and I have Brayden's parents queued up if you want they should have done done that because he ended up winning but I was like in the feed zone and I wanted to interview his parents during the race. Yeah. And they said no. Well the media team just like it's it's so I don't know I was like a little bit bummed that they didn't use as much of like the infield stuff because I was like in position in a bunch of different spots that they didn't end up queuing in but I'm like and I try to pick moments in the race that like nothing was happening. So I'm like let me interview let me interview his parents his mom was really excited to not have to do the interview though. Oh cool which is fair I was like I might interview you but like I just wanted to see if that was okay and she was they were like yeah yeah totally and then his dad was funny and sarcastic and I was like oh I really hope I get to but was it a good interview? Or you didn't even get to do it. Okay so you didn't like do it ahead of time and then they're just like sorry we're waiting they have a guest in and now we're queuing to commercial and now there's another guest and yeah they just it is quite the production. That's why I'm like these people don't have any clue. I mean the people who are sitting on the live stream like commenting they have no idea what's going on with anything. So it was like the I took a screenshot at one point um uh for when you did the interviews oh okay specifically the men's interviews yeah um which I want to talk about that stuff too but I want I do want to read you like I took a screenshot because I was like this is wild um I just want to read some of them I wrote them down okay um like after they won? Or yeah whatever this is after the men won this is after maybe like what I think it was right after you had finished the interviews um and like there's like some other chat in between this but I just wrote down the things that uh oh that was the chat it was in the chat yeah that I like screenshot and just like okay sorry okay so um Sturm is the best nice job Sarah Sarah Sturm is so perfect for this job seriously Sarah's amazing love how Sarah is so stoked for the writers aw those were awesome Post Race interviews we need more Sarah more Sturm she's simultaneously annoying and charming at the same time weird she looks like she'd make a good soup that's a compliment what yep a matzo ball soup maybe I don't the the soup one and then a lot of people like went around on on the soup and they're all like they're like who said it I wonder I don't I have no idea you should ask Holy Spirit of gravel because Lenny would know Lenny was Lenny was all over there were a couple meme accounts that were really involved and I was like oh this is a whole thing it's a subculture of it has become that because last year on the live feed I was lighting it up because I was yeah I was in Japan and not sleepy it was like two in the morning and I was watching and I was like well whatever I'm just gonna get up and watch and I've never been on that side of a race before and I was like people are horrible and people are horrible going after them. Yeah well and like I was like if you want to watch the men's feed because it was on social media yeah and I was like if you want to watch the men's feed get the fuck out of here like go we don't want you here yeah I know they're always like why aren't they on this why aren't they doing a double screen why isn't that like it's complaints about everything. Somebody was like uh when you were doing your like in field stuff they were like either cheer or commentate you can't do both and I would agree you can't do both it's oh no you can do both and you shouldn't but it's impossible. I know that was funny watching you try and be like oh my God. Okay so that was like I just had you just have to learn quick and I did um because like the first lap that they like they came in um did we set the scene up correctly for people who didn't don't know what's going on yeah no we didn't okay Sarah obviously here let's do it halfway through the episode um I'm pregnant Sarah's pregnant Sarah's a cyclist uh she's a pro bike racer she is pregnant uh this was the first race of the Grand Prix and you weren't obviously weren't racing but you got invited to do commentating potato common potating I made mashed potatoes out there and I was instead of in the studio I was like the on the ground like I feel like that's clear in what we were talking about like I feel like people can get like context cues but like maybe there are some other people who were being shitholes in the live feed that are also listening and they're gonna need a little bit more explanation like what's going on. Oh that also reminds me um also thank you for all the support everybody yeah everyone most everyone was so nice was there any commentary on the men who finished the bike crates yeah oh there's so much that was just like that was like what I was like oh wow that was all about the the soup it's all about soup well shout out to the soup person she looks like she can make a mean soup um and then like that was a compliment they did say like that's a compliment um that reminds me we had so a couple of our like little clips on Instagram have gone like they've gotten to the they've gone mainstream yeah they've gotten a little viral gone to gen pop pretty awful um and like there's like mainly the Kirsten Kirsten one. Yeah people I think every single Kirsten Kirsten or Kristen has seen it at this point um and is not pleased. And that's okay. Also people aren't quite understanding what it's about they're like well what if like then they're talking about spellings and I'm like that's not what it was about. Anyway we had one person that commented and I had to I had I couldn't I couldn't not comment back. Oh my god what'd you say? Well they said less mics in the world and I said fewer you idiot fucking if you're gonna insult us use the correct grammar that's all that's all that I oh did you hit your teeth on the mic and I thought you meant the name mic like less mics in the world you're an idiot no like microphones like podcasts yeah podcast equipment listen we're not two dudes on a podcast like we're doing just fine also don't listen okay fewer it's really funny Hannah I love that he commented back and did the like this the like hands up emoji so it was like great what an incredible interaction honestly Han I have to say like even our really viral one about me this accidentally saying abortion instead of or no what did you say terminate terminate terminating a pregnancy instead of my contract um which boy please don't pull that out of context on this podcast go watch the clip because it really anyway um that one really like we're up to like half a million views on it which is crazy but all of the comment like people really got it for the most part there was one woman that was like I know this is supposed to be funny but and then like went into something which like it wasn't even negative and I didn't disagree with her. Yeah um but anyway it was I was like truly it's really remarkable in this day and age to like do anything well I think our time is coming it will we will get canceled. We will get canceled actually there were a couple of we've already canceled by lots of crystals and cursins and curses. You know and that's fine with me you've you've been very clear on that. I am fine with that. Yeah um actually no shade to them it's their parents for naming them that um but yeah there was a couple moments where like thank god I am friends with people because I forget that there's always cameras rolling uh oh always what'd you do I will I can't even say it on the podcast oh I can't it's so funny it's so funny you really can't no I really can't okay well just say it and then Lily can cut it I'll let you know just like run it by me and then I'll we'll know if it needs to be cut or not because I'll it's actually not even that bad but um at Sea Otter like I explained before there's some context here it it's a massive event and like half the time like people are showing up for their race or like just the trade show like people show up just to buy a ticket to the trade show and get go to all the boot free swag. Yeah totally yeah and anyway so with that in mind I was like talking I was like at a photo shoot with uh all the lifetime grand prix girls who were doing the race and there was a camera rolling and I didn't wait what happened to your voice did you just lose it a little bit yeah I just from talking all week. Oh okay keep going it's back the same thing happened at Mid South um but I was saying there it was out of context but it was just this clip of me saying no one fucking cares about the lifetime grand prix and then they cut it just like that but I what I said after that is like everyone shows up for the dual slalom on Saturday. That like that's the like general public doesn't care about lifetime grand prix. And then the the brand that I was working with clipped it and sent it to me and they're like this is so funny and then like took a photo of me and like the next day all lifetime grand prix swag I'm so authentic oh my god we cried we laughed really funny I don't think that's inappropriate. No and and like obviously I love the lifetime grand pre it that's so funny. No one fucking cares about this thing that we're all here for and that literally pays our salary but honestly like it helped me the first year that I raced uh the grand prix because I had a really tough sea otter like I you know I I don't know it was like seventh which like now would be sweet terrible but I I you know I had big expectations and anyway did poorly and then Dylan was like listen don't even worry he was like 90% of this trade show has no idea that it what the grand prix is or that there was even a you know a race. Yeah so anyway who's the headliner at since this is basically Coachella who would you say is the headliner at Sea Otter like the race or just in general like what are well I would say like the events are the like the Beavers. Okay and I think I do think the Lifetime Grand Prix probably has the most like it is the the biggest event. Yeah actually I I would say the the gravel race. Yeah yeah for sure. Cool actually the do and the dual slalom is huge. Um I don't know what that means. It's where two mountain bikers it's like a very short course it's like maybe a minute long I posted the the last clip uh a Rafa girl at Ella won okay um and a Rafa woman uh Jill got second which is sick but they like race at the same time yeah I watched the track and then they kayak slalom yeah it's the same slalom okay back to the race so yeah I mean my only other note was that it it was really like so they come through on the first lap and they cue me in right like the timing was perfect because I was like standing there and the racers are coming like flying behind me but I can't see what's happening behind me on the live stream. So like every time they cued you you were turned around I know and you you would say every time I'm sorry I can't not watch I can't I couldn't because I'm not gonna just stand there like knowing that the race is happening behind me. And like that's what you're supposed to do. Well I can't well I know that that is clear yeah that was super clear. I was like and back is to us again. Okay. It was really funny but what the funniest thing too is like you would do your bit and then it would like transfer over to like back into the studio and every time Lauren was just cracking up like I think you were just cracking especially after like the interviews they just were like oh Sarah I think they I mean I think they loved it but it was yeah because they were just for like you know it it was it was really you did a great job of being like super personable and like down to earth I also was like oh this bitch does know how to ask a question God forbid you ever do it in our podcast but you do in fact know how to ask a question. Yeah I mean I I asked them the things that I was interested in. Did you prep those ahead of time? No you just did it on the fly? Totally there was no preparation. Well yeah that does make sense because it like if there it for me for me um if if I'm like hitting a a scripted thing I just uh one I'll forget and I'm I'm out of it and I'm not listening and I'm worried about remembering the next question. Yeah I just was wondering if like in your own brain if you like prepped questions. Um I had a backup like if I blanked and I was like what the fuck do I ask this person? Like uh Neela. Yeah um I had never well first of all I didn't know that she had won. I thought it was Carlin sorry third whatever is like winning. Well I think that's another thing that people in the life eat were upset about because they like when they were commentating they didn't know they didn't know. Here's the thing okay people poo-poo heads in the comments um when you're watching and also there's no cell service out there yeah like they had to like they're running a generator with Starlink on part of like it is it is really insane that these it's not like a it's not like you're in one place either. Right anyway so but we're watching this stuff on these like tiny monitors um and then they're in the studio with it blown up but there's it's four pixels. Yeah and all you can tell literally like the the stream that you see as a viewer on the internet is much higher quality really than what we see. At least from my perspective yeah it was you could tell if it was a light color jersey red so good job specialized you could really see Sophia yeah uh white and dark yeah and all we knew that it was a canyon rider and there were three of them and um Neela to her credit actually Pete had told me that she was quite strong she's brand new yeah that's what it sounded like new new new yeah we had no idea and she was on that canyon team the same one that Braden's on uh and the two riders that I had clocked on that team were not her and and we didn't know that it was her. Yeah and I wasn't used to her style. Anyway now we know yeah but I thought that it was Carolyn Schiff who got third when I was you know about to interview someone and I was like oh you got third great oh really interview and she was great and she seemed great and that was I think that makes a cooler interview because I'm like I'm sorry but tell like if if listen if I don't know who you are and I'm like I follow I love watching the women's race everyone totally and that's the cool thing about the Grand Prix and a race like Sea Otter and all the Europeans coming over um she's new yeah and I was like please tell us yeah who the hell are you totally and like not in a not in a shitty well no no in just like a wow incredibly now yes and that was a bit like Sea Otter and the Grand Prix specifically I want to just give some people some perspective on Sea Otter because I actually gained some new perspective on it because when everyone was lined up for the race I had absolutely no FOMO. Really? And oh who coined this term Jomo the joy of missing out no I have that all the time I permanently have that and I had that in fact Because that that race specifically is there's so much anxiety. If you're especially if you're in the Grand Prix, you're trying to make you make it onto the scene and gravel. Like you have like it's just early, like no one really knows how everyone's fitness is, you don't really know how your own fitness is, all of your sponsors are there. It's the first big race of the season, and it kicks off the entire like year of being ranked. So it's and Seattle is a fucking gnarly course. I I did have a chance to ride the first descent. So you basically climb up the racetrack and you have to get into position, but then you're hitting this like it's like barely, it's not it's a little bit bigger than single track, but it's it's like a kind of wider dirt path, and you're descending on it, and it is so fast and so scary. And I wrote it alone, and I was like, and maybe I just have a different perspective because I'm pregnant right now, but I was like, this is really, really scary, and I am so glad I'm not racing. And I and then I was like, Oh, I can't believe I have to race this next year. And that whole group stayed together though. Anyway, we don't have to talk about the race. We can go and well, we can't. Like, I'm curious um if there like what other pieces because like this is like watching the live feed is is what I got from it, but I know and and it's so interesting to like hear all of you know your new perspective on all of the things, but are there like race-specific things like performances that you want to talk about? Yeah, I I really was surprised. I think everyone was kind of expecting Kate to walk away with it. Yeah. Um, and and to be honest, I was too. Yeah. I thought Sophia, I knew Kate Courtney. Yeah, Kate Courtney thinks that is one thing you need to work on is saying last names. And we talked about that in the live feed or in the sorry in the meeting. Uh is uh try or no, that was debrief, is trying to hit people's first and last names. Yep. I could have been in those meetings. You would have been you would be you could work for lifetime and you would do a really good job. I could be the one calling all the cameras. No, I could not do that. Yeah, there's I mean, I could be the one putting tabs on the binder. There were a lot of really organized women who worked there. Of course there were. And there should be. And shout out to Michelle and Izzy and Megan, because they were the ones that got me super and Becca, sorry, I don't know how I forgot Becca. And that's to get you set up for that is a big task, truly. Yeah. Were they nervous? Probably. Um, but yeah, it's like I can't remember what I was saying. You're talking about Kate Courtney. Um, but I think it was just the conditions really kept everyone, it was really, really windy. And that's what I was like trying to express. That like the wind, and that's the job of a field reporter, because like the people in the studio don't know. You can just like kind of maybe see on the grass, but like it was really, really windy to the point where like there were attacks that were going, but nothing was sticking because you couldn't stay away long long enough in the headwind alone, or even with a second person, yeah. To to make I mean the men's race, you saw that. Like there was a group of three that were up the road. Um, I really feel like I didn't watch the race at all. I was truly just paying attention to the c it's funny. I mean, yeah, I yeah, there's no way I would watch this stuff if you weren't involved in any part. Like I would not have watched it, no, for sure. I mean, I wouldn't. I mean, it's I get it. It is interesting, and I did want to like watch the finishes and see what happened, you know, because you have it on all day long or whatever, but um, yeah, I really didn't, I really wasn't watching much of the that's actual racing. I think the more you follow racing, the more into it you get. Like, yeah, I kind of felt like that watching like the men's tour de France. You're like, sure, okay, but like if you if you Well now, I mean this season I feel like I'm in it. Well, and we can we can really watch some of the women's tour because we're I'm gonna be very much here. Um when is the women's tour? In July, like late July. Oh, good, yeah. I was hoping that you would have some good stuff to watch while you're yeah stuck at home breastfeeding. There's truly there's a lot of bike racing that happens. You know, yeah, totally. I mean, and that's like that's what's so important. That's why like races figuring out live streams and good prod broadcasting, and that's what's so devastating about like the women's roubaix not showing the full race. I do have to something to say about that. Remember how on the last episode we I was like, where is the Perry Roubaix? Perry? I had never seen it written out. Paris. It's P-A-R-I-S. That's Perry. I know. Perry. Perry. And you didn't know it was in France? I did. I just wasn't like fully committed to that. And I didn't, I did, I don't know, because like some of these things like are Dutch and you don't, I don't know, you just don't know. I was like P-E-R-R-Y. That's the that's the offshoot race. Oh my god, of course it's in fucking France. It's Paris Roubaix. Duh. Idiot. Just had a bone to pick on that. Okay, glad we cleared that up. Yeah, thank you. Um, but yeah, so wow, back to the thread that I started talking about. Oh. So the racers came by and while like while I'm standing there, I can't like I didn't like having the race happening in front of me and talking about it at the same time because it was impossible for me to not turn and look or cheer. Yeah. And like I just couldn't do that. Like, I j I don't know. I I'm sure with practice I would get better. But mainly it's like it's a it's a like input-output thing. Like I I have to like have a second to like think about what I'm watching in front of me. Because I mean it's happening quickly, and there's one like it's not like I'm looking at the screen and looking at what the viewer looks at. Yeah. But I think field reporting, you do a better job if like you can talk when the racing isn't right behind you, like maybe right before they come and say, like, okay, we're rating here. Totally. It's this temperature, this is what's going on, this is what we saw last lap, this is what we're doing. And the racers are about to come through. Yes, and they're about to come through, and you everyone watches while they come through, and then you say something about it. Totally. Yeah, so makes sense after the first time when I was like, Gorn. It looks kind of and I had to be really careful to not cheer for Sophia too, because I'm a specialized athlete, so I didn't want it to seem like you can't cheer for Sophia. Well, I don't know. I mean, the thing is these are all your friends. I know they're all my friends. Cheer for all of them. I know, but that's what's going through my head too. So I'm like, I have a question. Yeah. Maybe you can or can't talk about it. Oh. Because one of the things you said on the the live feed was like, there are radios. That's right. I was like, I debated it because like I watched them come through. Uh-huh. None of the men had them. And I had been watching Red Lens, the Road Race, the weekend before. Uh-huh. And I noticed that, and that's legal in road racing. Like, but they usually just have these like little sleek earbuds, and then the radio pack is sewn into like you have like these pockets for your radio in race kit, like in skin suits and stuff, and it's for the little like everyone in the tour wears them. You can see them, like sometimes they pull the earpiece out because they just want to like not hear their team director. It makes a lot more sense with Road. Sure. But I will say it's here with gravel now. Really? So is it legal? Well, I saw it in the women's race. Emma Langley came by and I was like, huh. She was talking into it to someone. She was live podcasting. She was live podcasting. Yeah, she was doing her live podcast. And I was like, I can't knock talk about it. I was like, people are gonna see it, and I was like, that's literally like why I'm here. Yeah. Sorry, Grand Prix. I mean, is that so it's not not in the rules, is what I was told. It's not um not in the rules, it's not technically illegal. You're not you're not allowed to have an in-ear piece. Like you can't have an earbud in, but you can have like the bone conductor detector shocks from a safety standpoint. Okay. So it didn't violate those, but there was no specific rule. There will be. Um, I am curious what they decide. I'm not privy to that. You don't know if they're deciding yay or nay on whether or not they gotta do it before unbound because I guarantee you, now that it has been seen, people will wear them for unbound. So who's talking to them? I think that they well, I wasn't totally sure because technically uh Lauren Stevens, the woman who got second, and Emma Langley, they used to both be on EF together, a road team, and I think they're currently on a road team, or maybe like they they're teammates for some road races together. Um You think they're talking to each other? I was wondering if they were. And it's not illegal, like men do it all the time. Men wheel and deal in these races for without their I mean, the specialized team is clearly the specialized team. Yeah. But because gravel is sort of lawless now, and and there's not teams really, yeah, guys will be. I mean, I don't know why it really hasn't hit the women's field at all, but like the top men will literally like pay out other riders to work for them for the race. What? Like in the lifetime Grand Prix that's happening? In all like, especially at Unbound, these big races, Levi's for sure, because it has a big payout. What? Yeah, that feels like cheating. It's not. I mean, it kind of is, but I mean it's not that's not in the rules. I mean, how would they know? Well, I don't know. I mean, it's just it's just paying teammates. Huh. Well, I know that like the big thing in gravel is what it sounds like, is that like what what team tactic like team versus prime tier, how that's gonna shift things. This is I mean, it would have been I would have been surprised if anyone did it for Seattle, because there wasn't really any good opportunity on the like the course didn't really lend itself to teamwork. Were people talking about it after the fact? What the radios? Like were the good. I think what was happening, because then I walked by the feed zone and I when the race was over, or like they were on their last lap, and I saw Matt Stevens, Lawrence husband, had one on. So she she was definitely talking to Matt. And Emma might have been also using Matt in the feed zone, which that's what I think would be the most helpful. Like when I crashed at Unbound, I would have loved to tell Dylan, like, I crashed, my bars are crooked. And he would have said, Deal with it. And he would have said, suck it up, you're fine. Huh. Yeah. I mean, do you think that'll change things if people use radios? I think it could, for sure. But I mean, like, what's then we're and then we're gonna get into the road territory. We're like, okay, then are we gonna have then you talk about DSs and uh director sportif? What's that? Uh a a c like team director, like an orchestra leader, what are they called? Conductor. Yeah. Yeah, like the person who says, like, okay, attack now. Sophia's in the break, Sarah, control the Peloton. Um, okay, Sophia just said she's really tired and um wants a teammate up there. Sarah, try to break away with you know, only minimal people to try to get up to Sophia. Or Sophia's set up, she's coming back to the Peloton. When she comes back, take a drink and then go. Like, do you think that'll change? I mean, sounds like that would change things a lot. For sure. Because like half of the battle of gravel is you don't know what the fuck is going on ever. I mean, especially when the women and men raced together. Yeah. It was like that's why I didn't know I got third that one year at Unbound. Because I was like, I don't know, I don't know where anyone is. Huh. What do you think should happen? I'm like, I'm really mixed. One and like we don't have to hold you to this. Like you're a lot tonary. I really think that they look dorky, so I don't want to wear. Unless they come out with cooler looking things. They're so dorky. Like, I literally like commented on one of uh Freddie's photos of Lauren Stevens from Redlands, and I was like, cool mic. Because it's like this little tiny. I mean, you're one to speak, you were wearing a Britney Spears mic for the that leadout broadcast thing. I would that was my first thing. I was like, Britney Spears. Okay, Britney. Oops, I did it again. She cheered. Oops, she cheered again. And again and again and again and again and again. Oops, my mic is to the mic or to the camera again. Well, they said I could turn around just to bring the mic with me. And you did that. You just hold the mic out front and turn. Well, they say people do that. I bet. I could see that. I'd probably do that. Um, but yeah, yeah, I I don't I don't know. I'm like, on one hand, it would be nice, but like the thing is like once one team has it, everyone's gonna have to have it because it's an advantage. But getting information is helpful. But then if you're just like and and then if you're like radioing into your team, they could be watching the live stream and telling you splits because you don't know you don't know shit out of that. I mean, I feel like that would really change things. Uh-huh. I I mean I feel like some people would do really well with that and some people do less well with that. I mean, there's a whole there's a whole argument in road racing and in the tour that race radios have made racing boring. And I don't disagree. I mean, technically somebody could do like send you, like if you have your Garmin, then somebody could send you splits, like if they're watching and they could text it to you. Oh, okay. And you're you're technically all of the women listen to this rule, but uh, I guess not all of the men. On the longer races, like Traka and Unbound, like we ha we are required to carry our cell phones. Oh but at uh Gravel Earth, you're not allowed to communicate with your support team with your phone. It is purely just an emergency tool. But at Unbound, people do like there's photos of like Finstee and and Keegan like texting from the like Peloton, like their their crew. When they're like on their bikes, they're texting. Yeah. The insides of my eyes have been so itchy. No, no, but this bike stuff is exciting. It's so interesting. Oh my god. Okay, yeah. What else you got? Um, that so I did go sea kayaking. Oh, yeah. Oh my god. It could have been, it's like I felt like I was on one of those like reality TV shows where they're like, they just make you do like really dumb stuff for entertainment. And they're like Love is the Island, Love is the Island, Love is Island. Love is they're like, sure, let's put the pregnant lady on a freaking solo sea kayak. You were by yourself? I had one of the solo ones, which was actually kind of nice. Um, but they like, first of all, the kid that was like, there was like the main lady who like, I don't think she's worn shoes in the last 40 years. Like when I got out of the water, John, uh the kid that was filming, he was like, he's like, Did you check out her toe rings? He was like, Those things have been on there forever, never coming off. Were her feet gnarly? She was just like uh like beach lady, but like kayak. And she told me she was like, I love this job. She sounds great. She was great. I got a toe ring that's been on forever. So she like plops in and is waiting for all of us, but like no one's really like I didn't know we were doing like a guided tour. What were you wearing? Um, well, they gave us like waterproof pants, which were really funny, and I'm glad I wore them. Yeah, but they I like had them all the way up to uh under my boobs. Uh-huh. Oh, cute. And then I wore just a t-shirt and a life jacket. Mom was really concerned about me wearing a life jacket. Does she not know how buoyant you are? No, I was like, mom, I s I snorkeled in Hawaii. You just float. Literally couldn't brought under I couldn't dive. Yeah. So then, but the kid was like, I was like, going to get in. Also, I'm Why are you doing this? This is for fun, or you guys are So we're doing like a post-race show, and I had athletes to interview. Uh-huh. And so my mind. For sure. It was like the like driving in cars thing, or like the riding in cars with famous people. What? Oh, no. That was an old Drew Barrymore. Oh. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No, it's like a they make them sing. The like carry car karaoke with that guy. Yeah, maybe that's anyway. I'd like to actually, that's what I want to see. Those are the post-race interviews I'd like to hear. Wait. And see. Speaking of singing. What? Okay, this was crazy. We're standing at the beat, like the Grand Prix is gonna go off in like 15 minutes. And I'm standing there with my camera guy. Domi comes up, who's a photographer on the scene, and she and I were just chatting, and then one of the lifetime Grand Prix folks comes up to us and he's like, Hi, um, so the choir is late and stuck in traffic, and they're supposed to sing the national anthem. Can either of you sing? And I couldn't say no fast enough. You should have been like, I've got this. Domi did. Did she? She was like, I can. And I was like, oh my god. No, and I know Domi can sing because we've done karaoke together and she really can sing. Oh. She actually like has a lovely singing voice. And then I was like, I panicked. Oh, I would have panicked so hard for her. I was I was looking up lyrics to the natural. I would have too. I would have too. But then Domi is standing there like practicing, and I'm like frantically looking at the lyrics. I'm like, oh my god, I can't like I get goosebumps even thinking about that. So shout out Domi. Then the choir shows up. Oh, so she didn't have to do it. Well, I think she was bummed. Oh god. Which is crazy. I was like, oh thank fuck. Oh, the day is saved. I'm and I'm, you know, it takes a lot for me to say no to like a fun or funny opportunity. Not singing or dancing. Yep. I had a bum it's I'm good. Yeah, we had to. But arguably not really singing. Uh chanting. That's a chant. Mainly it's just not dropping the Torah in front of everyone and making everyone fast for 40 days and 40 minutes. Is that what happens? I think so. Did you drop the Torah? 40 days, maybe not the nights. Only the days you can eat at night. Yeah. You get real fat. Oh my god. So anyway, sorry. I truly shout out to Domi for like blown away. I was like, what do you mean you didn't say no immediately? Oh, even if I could sing, I would still there no, no part of me. That's a hard song, too. It is a song. I don't know the words. Uh-uh. How was the choir? I didn't even hear him. Okay. I blacked out. You know, I missed the men's start, and I think there was some drama. That's what I yeah. Like I was looking in the live chat. Um, and I I feel like there was something about the choir too, but I missed that too. Oh. It was a children's choir. Oh my god, of course people. I'm sure somebody had something fucking negative to say. Truly. Everyone it is crazy. Yeah, I know. Um hated that. Okay, so they push me out into the sea kayak. Oh, yes, okay.
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SPEAKER_00So but the kid was such a dick. He was like, ma'am, your paddle's upside down. Oh, and it's backwards. Well, what an idiot, Sarah. I was focused on literally trying to make this thing funny for people. I mean, I didn't do that on purpose. Also, we're plopping into a bay. It's not like I'm like, it's like high-stakes, like whitewater rafting here. Your mom was really worried about you having a PFD on. I don't know if she fully understood the situation. Okay. The worst part. Maybe she thought you were doing like, yeah, like whitewater kayaking. No. Yeah. We were in the oh, we were in the bay. I understand this. I'm not saying that I caught that. The kid was just a dick. Alex was laughing so hard because he was like, he was so Roscoe. Because Alex and John are filming the whole thing for our documentary. Oh, uh-huh. And then Danny, our friend, is in a kayak trying to film me and all the girls. And they were watching him like paddling backwards, like trying to like film me, and like I'm mic'd up, and like I'm literally okay. So we get out and you we see this wall of seals or sea lions. Uh-huh. We were sea lions have ears. Seals do not. None of them had ears. No, like the tiny little folds, ear folds. I was so distracted by the smell. Uh-oh. So we get up. We're like, the lady, the tour guide lady was there was poor woman. Actually, good for her. She had a solo tour because all of us were kind of clumped together because we had an ulterior motive. So we were like way off the back immediately. And the lady was already around the whole thing. So we're like, they clumped somebody in, somebody else in with you guys? Okay. That's like none of us really knew what was going on. Yeah. We're getting closer. Like, we're all like really excited. Like there was some seal, there were some seals like swimming under the case. We're just gonna call them seals. They may or may not have been sealed. Please don't come for us in the comments. God. Um, and we're like, oh, that's so cool. Like it was cool. And then we were getting closer, and I was like, Whoa, it's really stinky. It's just getting stinkier because no one's saying anything about it. And I was like, is it stinky for you?
SPEAKER_01I can just picture you being like, no, no, no, it was stinky.
SPEAKER_00It smelled like old rotten fish that farted. I mean, I'm sure that's what was happening. Oh my God. So then we're getting closer to these seals. And I'm like trying, and it was like I was like sloshing them. They're just trying to get you to puke. And then the the way the seals were barking, they were like, they were actually just gagging. They were like, you know, can you guys smell this? I was filming them at one point and they were like, and I literally like felt, and I had a bite of Alex's uh sandwich right before I went in. Because I was like, fuck, I haven't eaten. Oh my god. I actually And then I was later informed that John and Alex were on the dock, zoomed in on their cameras so tight on my face, and they were like, come on, yak, dude. Yak. Oh, I wish you would have. That's so funny. Did anyone talk about the smell? At what point were you? No one else talked about the smell. It was just me. I was fully distracted. We got no audio clips. Other than you did not hit the brief. I did not. At one point I was like, Danny, give me some other questions. A fucking nose plug. But then we got around them and we did see some sea otters in the kelp forest. But it was really stressful because like two of the girls had to get out at a certain time. And then I also had a meeting with like specialized that I had to like make it to, and we're like bobbing around in these kayaks, and I'm like weird fucking job you have. Oh my god. And my goal was to like they were like, just make it funny. You're like, I was like, Danny, can you just roll on the whole thing? Cause like, I don't know. I'm not uh the the guy that was uh filming. I was like Danny sh short. Okay, different Danny anyway. Damn, okay. But also I don't think seals have neck bones because did you see my one? Yeah, it was like completely it was like the shape of an S. It was it was crazy. They were all like that. Honestly, if they didn't smell so bad, I would have watched they were way more entertaining than the otters. What were the otters doing? They were just being cute. Borring. Borring. I mean the ones that stink and have weird necks. Well, the stinky broken otters. So that part was quite funny. Yeah, it's really funny. Did anyone else think it was as funny as you did? Uh Alex and John. Oh, yeah. Watching. And you just suffered. That is so funny. And then Alex was, of course, like there to watch. The kid was a dick to me too when he was pulling me out of the kayak. Also, I'm like, see that you were pregnant. I'm with child. I am with child. And he didn't because I had those stupid pants pulled up. And I was like having to crab walk out. How old is this? You keep saying kid. Was he child? I don't know, like 15. Oh, yeah. Kid. And had a real toot. It's probably a fucking stinks over here. I hate this. Oh my god. It was so funny. Damn. And then I had to go to the and then I drove up to the fucking parking kerfuffle. Oh gosh. And we've got a full circle. And we are back to the beginning. We've talked about zero men racing. And that's okay. Bitty baby Braden. Bitty baby Braden. Oh my God. It was so funny. I texted you that, and then Lily was like, Bitty Baby Braden. In my head, I was like, oh bitty baby Braden when he won. We all had the same thought. And if you don't know what that means, uh, you're gonna have to go back and listen to I don't know when that was, but yeah. Oh shoot, I was gonna talk about um my nutritionist. I'll get to that at the um end, which is near because you have an ultrasound at 3 45. Oh shit. And it's 3 15. Okay, I gotta go. Right now? Yeah. Oh, okay. What time? It takes like 20 minutes to drive out there. Okay, great. Good thing I'm on it. Truly. Wow, that really went by. We had a lot to say. I feel like we did a shout out to Bitty Baby Brayden. Shout out, boys. I will say I was interviewing Keegan and I fully forgot that he had this gnarly injury. Yeah. I also forgot until that moment on his interview. You know, I have to keep he was gracious. Yeah, and I he really is that way. Like, um, I think I mean he was very disappointed because like, you know, these guys just want to win. Yeah. Um, but yeah, I that was I was actually like really impressed with how he like handled that interview. Um, and just like how he is. Like he's I mean, Keegan's a quiet professional, yeah, totally. Yeah. Um, his mom was there and she was so fun. She was like cheering harder for me uh at the start because she was like, Oh my god, congrats. Was it Brayden who bitty baby Braden um at the end of your interview where you were like, congrats, and he was like, Congrats to you. That was very sweet. Brayden's really and I will say, like, his parents, this is super cool. So um his parents, I mean, he's been bike racing, and his brother, his dad was telling me his brother was a EWS racer, and like they've been racing for a really long time, and he was like, you know, this is the first race that uh both of his parents were at at the same time because his dad was like, Yeah, bike racing is expensive, and like yeah, it's it was hard for us to get to these races, and that was the second time that they have been at one of his races, and he just won. I love and his mom like heart started like tearing up, and then I started crying. Nobody's asked me for my hot picks this year. Sorry, um, but that's okay. Maybe bitty baby Braden. I was mostly because I'm like excited that his parents got to see him. I know we do, that he seems nice, and so obviously I actually couldn't pick him out of a crowd. Um, he doesn't look anything like a bitty baby, and that's unfortunate. That's probably good for him. It's good for him. It's good for him. I mean, he does look like a little teenage biker kid, but he's you know not do um okay. Let's get you to but and good job to Sophia. That was a huge like yeah, I just like from a personal standpoint, like there was a lot on like she's undefeated this season, which is crazy. Um, and as she expressed to us from Mid South, it the pressure grows with every race. And so, and I think people and she knew that people were looking to, you know, Rosa, who had just been at the Perry Rue Bay, um, her, of course, like she's always a top pick, and Kate Courtney, who, you know, set the record at Leadville and you know, is not slow. Yeah. Um, and she won the shit out of that race. She is really, really strong. She is really, really smart. Yep. Good job, So. Yep. Um, okay. All right, last baby. What last thing I do want to shout out to my nutritionist, um, who I'm getting connected with a couple of racers, because while I'm watching the racing, it's crazy how clear it is to me. The racers who are bonking because of nutrition. Off camera, when the cameras weren't rolling and I was able to cheer for my friends, I was like, go Lauren, eat a gel, go, Scarlet, eat a gel. Like, it is it is so hard to like figure out race nutrition. And Kyla um with nutritional revolution, um, I've worked with her, this is our third year now. I hired her a few years ago when I literally like was eating 30 grams of carbs an hour, and she is responsible. And what I've learned from her um for turning my career from like kind of dang, like having a really good result, then like really not, then really having a good one, then really not, and finding consistency and learning. I mean, listen, if I can learn about carbs per sh if she was able to teach me about that, she could teach literally anything. She could teach anyone. It'll be so much easier for everyone else. And I and I'll go into it a little bit more when we have some more time, but like the way in which she works with athletes, like we will have a phone call, discuss a race. I mean, you can, you know, you can meet with her um about off-bike stuff. Oh my god. I can't when I'm thinking about nutrition at the same time. But she, I mean, really, like, it's been a journey of like I've learned how to do gut training, I've learned how much how much I sweat and what that means for my nutrition. So much. So much and so much more in in pregnancy. And I've been working with her throughout my pregnancy as well. But she's amazing. Um, if you want to do a consultation, her company is called Nutritional Revolution. Look her up. They're great. I couldn't recommend her more. Um, especially if you think you know everything. Um truly. Like, should no, really, like if you think you have it dialed in. Um, I I honestly like recommend maybe just like freshening up with someone because I mean she's really on top of um, you know, the science behind what's you know what they're learning and what's changing in our sport. Cool. Okay, thanks. Off to go get an ultrasound. Woo! Look at that baby. See how that baby's doing.