Talking Over You

The Iron Horse, truffle pigs, and crickets

• Hannah and Sarah Sturm • Season 1 • Episode 40

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This week, Sarah talks about riding the Iron Horse Classic in Durango last week and contending with an unexpected amount of backlash about it. She and Dylan also went to a breastfeeding class where she learned some pretty mind-blowing facts about areolas and truffle hunting. Meanwhile, Hannah has been contending with a bug invasion at her house and crying over mascot reveals. 

This episode is sponsored by Thank Gravel It’s Friday and the Ride for Hope.  

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Welcome to Talking Over You with Sarah Sturm and Hannah Sturm. Here we go. If you're gonna be an asshole, at least be funny. At least be funny. I thought it was a man coon. We need to have like a real athlete on here. It makes me consider different careers every time I have to pee in my chamois. What? Should we go? Go where? Do the pause? Yeah, probably. Hi. Hi. I haven't seen you in two weeks. I actually was expecting Oh, do you want to see how weird my belly button looks? Yeah, I really do. I was expecting you to look even more pregnant than you do. I do. I'm just hiding it. It really is. Oh, there it all is. Oh, it's not popping out yet. No, but it like if I lay on the side, then the top part is over here. And I decided, like, I'm Delane's like, I don't know why you keep showing me your belly button. Like, it looks fine. And I was like, I know, it's just weird to like see like a body part you've looked at for your entire life. Change. Change. Yeah. Like I know I look different, but like specifically my belly button. Like it looks way different. I've never seen the inside of it. Oh, what's in there? A freckle.

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Freckle inside your pillow. Now you look like a frog. We just did a full frog kick. I know. I like uh I wore, I'm really leaning into the mom life. I wore my running shoes for hiking today with this outfit. Okay. That's like what a lot of people do. I know, but it let a lot of sand into my shoes, and now it's between my toes. Anyway, okay. We have a lot to get to today. Let's see what's going on. And most important not most importantly, but definitely very exciting. We have uh two new sponsors for this episode and a couple to come. Um and those are uh a couple of events, which is really cool because it's actually something that you, the listener, can act upon. Yeah. Um, if you're in the Boulder Denver area, um thank you to Think Gravel It's Friday, which I think is Oh, thank you to Think Gravel. Yeah, okay, got it. So it's called I shouldn't have said thank you. The group is called Think Gravel It's Friday. They have a really cute Instagram, they have a cute logo, which we love. We love good graphic design. Branding. Yep. Um, and they have a far out ride on um July 25th, which is a free gravel ride through the foothills of the Rockies, starting in Boulder, Colorado, which sounds awesome. I love community. This is a really fun group. Um, and the Boulder Denver area. I mean, if we lived closer, I would go. Yeah. I mean, it also seems like a good thing to travel to. Yeah, totally. If you're in that area for sure, like go go check it out. Um, and it's a ride to um give folks an experience of a big event without the like upfront monetary investment and without like you know, all the other things. So if you want, if you're like kind of newer in the gravel scene, go check it out, which is great because like it kind of feels like there's either like clinics or bike races sometimes. And it sounds like it's a nice way, yeah, to like get the full experience because it seems like like what I was gathering is that like the event itself is like it's full on, like it is like a yeah, yeah, totally. Like the ride is not just like an easy nothing ride, like there's there's stuff with it, but that um there's like no podium, but you get like all the like which is great, it's kind of all the good stuff, it's perfect, it's perfect. Um, and then there's also this is very exciting and very aligned with our um morals, I guess. Um uh so TGIF is also partnering with this uh group called Ride for Hope to raise awareness and funds for mental health, um, support initiatives uh in Colorado communities, they build community, it's the best way to combat isolation and loneliness. So Ride for Hope um is also doing an event. Um, let's see. Sorry, I just want to make sure these are right. Uh so ride for hope to ride across Ohio September 18th to the 21st. And that ride is roughly 340 miles of rails to trails. So do you know what a rail to trail is? No. It's cool. They take like old railroad grades and they turn them into trails. So it's not like and like if you think about a rail I say this having never been on a train, but like they're not usually like crazy steep or like either way. So it's like kind of in like a roller coaster. Yeah, it's not like a roller coaster. So it's a really awesome like way to like see things via bike on some cool terrain. Um, and so they'll do that. They camp each night, packing all their own camping gear. God, this sounds really fun. That sounds really fun. I'm like, will I be able to no, I won't. I don't think you will be able to do that. Yeah, September 18th to the 21st. I will be sleep this week. Um so yeah, they do they you pack all your camping gear and food um on the bike. They have a 30-person cap this year, um, and they only have 20 more spots. So check it out. Yeah, um, but yeah, that's two really awesome rides, groups of people. Um, and I think ride for hope is super cool, just because like, I mean, it's uh a bit of it is like mental health awareness, but also like suicide prevention. And I I mean, I was talking to Devin, the owner of it, um, and I was like, oh, this is perfect. Like Hannah and I like the reason we do this podcast, it's not to like ignore all of the heavy things that happen in this world and go on, but it's kind of to just highlight the good things in the community, and it's really fun to like watch the talking over you community grow and like yeah, have a little escape. Yeah, totally, and like talk about some cool stuff, um, sometimes some heavy stuff, and that's sort of what like these group rides and like events are about. Like even bike races, like it's like this moment of reprieve, and we all come together because we all like being outside, we like bikes in some whatever capacity. So we're all for thank gravel it's Friday and ride for hope. Um, so what you can do is go follow each of them on Instagram. I think that's always like the best place for accurate. So, in in case I got something wrong, go follow. Um, so the handle is thank gravel it's Friday, just all spelled out, no caps, whatever. I don't think that matters. Oh, okay. And then Ride for Hope um is the Ride for Hope underscore. Cool. Super cool, great, yeah, awesome. Ooh. If I if only I rode bikes, those sound like great events. Honestly, they seem like Honestly they yeah, I think it'd be fun to be. I think you could still go. Um okay, wow. Hi, you're pregnant. Still pregnant, still pregnant, still got baby under. Yeah. We're how many, how far along are you? 30 weeks, 30 and a half weeks. Wow. I'll be 31 weeks this week. Week, week, week. How are you feeling? Pregnant. Honestly, Pagan art. Yeah. No, I like shit definitely has gotten real. Really? Yeah. Yeah. I want to like just I know like people who listen to the podcast follow me on Instagram and like I really like I'm trying to do a good job of like talking about like the ups and the downs of everything, but like I really just like don't love putting everything on Instagram. And I go through phases. So just hear hear me out now. Um, there's been a lot of just me sitting in my bed with the pregnancy pillows around. I have a whole system. Like the little wedge thing is great on the back. Great. I might be keeping them forever. Perfect. Um, and then the the long one that usually I sleep between my legs, it goes around my belly and I just sit plop in bed. I've been reading like a crazy mad woman. I figured out a hack for the Kindle. Um, you put it on airplane mode. It's been on airplane mode, and I was like, why aren't these books returning? Yeah. If you use Libby. Yeah. Um, I think they still return on your like like they get returned, I think, to the library. So I don't think it I actually don't think it affects the library. Okay, I felt negative bad. Uh you might want to double you might want to double check. I don't feel bad enough to not take it off. And you know, you like have Libby's the one that goes through your your public library. Yeah. And if you haven't finished your book in the three weeks allotted, two weeks. Your library is two weeks minus three. Um, but there are no books, so kind of a trade-off. Um, but if you turn your Kindle onto airplane mode, then it doesn't like it. You can't return it. Because I did a deep dive in like LibreOffice. I meant to, I almost texted you about it last night, but it was way too different. It doesn't exist. Not for a Kindle. You can't know. I told you that. No, I know, but I just did I well, I believed you, but I was like, surely there will be there is a bookstore.org or something you have to use your browser. I know. That's what I was just gonna say. You can't use it on your Kindle. Yes. And then there's other ways, but anyway, I unintentionally figured out that that was a hack because I've been reading Demon Copperhead. Yeah. Um, which is great. Yeah. But I only I start I had a week of reading it and then it got returned. And I was like, why isn't why is it still on my Kindle? Barbara Kingsolver has a new book coming out this year. Not until I think the fall, and I don't remember what it's called because it's it's I now like her. I and I know I'm late to the game. No, that's okay. But yeah, she's great. So I've been reading a ton. But yeah, I've just been really tired. I did a bike race. Well, I rode a bike race. The Iron Horse. I rode our local road race. But can you just give a quick little blurb about it is cause what it is? Because then I want to I have a funny okay. Well, I just want to like preface it with like I just need people to know that like from our return home from Europe and Traka, yeah, I rode my bike three times cool since then. So like I just don't want to give this like impression that everything's been like really great. Like I've been really, really tired. Yeah. And everything has been really great. Like you agree. Yeah, but I've just like it's not like I've just been, you know, living it up. Yeah. Um, so I had a customer who came in and um I haven't seen her in a while. She came in with their whole family to do that. She like revealed to her whole family that she was pregnant at the shop. Oh god. Uh-huh. This was she, I think that was like early December. And you had just told me, um, but you hadn't told or you had maybe told the family, but you hadn't told a lot of people. So like I didn't say anything to them about you being pregnant. Anyway, she came back in this week on Saturday when uh she's pregnant. She's like three weeks ahead of you, maybe. I think she's due like earlier July. Okay, yeah. Um, and she looks really pregnant. And I was like, How are you feeling? And she was like, Oh, I'm just blah, this, blah, blah, blah. Tired of this and that. And she's like, I feel huge. Um, and I was like, I didn't tell you, but like my sister's also pregnant, um, and like due a couple weeks after you, and she was like, and she doesn't know you, she doesn't follow you, she doesn't know who you are. I know, I also love that. Um, and she was like, Well, how's she feeling? And I was like, I don't even want to tell you. And I was she was like, Is it bad? And I was like, She's riding, she's in a bike race right now, and she was like, Oh, fuck her. She was like, What a bitch. Fair, yeah. I know I was like, honestly, yep, honestly. Totally so fair. And I was like, but she was a freak before she got pregnant. So, like, well, that's the thing. Okay, we'll get into this. Yeah. Well, maybe we should just dive in now. Go. Okay, so that for uh reference for people who don't know, which how would you know? The Durango has a local road race that honestly is like the Tour de France level of like not level. No, wait, hold on. I need you to finish that sentence. Excitement and media and focus of attention of the town. Every town, in the town, literally not before else, not beyond the town. Nowhere else. And like, we're just gonna keep repeating ourselves. Nowhere else. In the town. Okay, yeah. Like to the point where like it was when I quit racing, you know, over a decade ago, and I like purposefully took this weekend off and away from Durango because I was working at a local bakery, and I didn't want everyone to ask me why you weren't doing why I wasn't doing the iron horse. So, anyway, it's it's not a big deal, but it is a big deal for Durango. It's also like it is, it was my first ever bike race almost 19 years ago. That's crazy, isn't it? Yeah, I walked part of it. Yeah, I love that. But it's uh you you ride from Durango to this little mining town called Silverton in the middle of the mountains, and you go up two mountain passes. It's like almost 6,000 feet of climbing and uh 50 miles. Yeah, but the coolest part is that it's one, it's beautiful, but also they close the roads, so there's no traffic, no cars. And most of the participants are um, it's called the Citizens Tour. Yeah, totally. It's great. And for me, you know, because I live here, I was like, oh, this is awesome. If I feel okay, I'll do it. It's in my backyard. Yeah, I wasn't even gonna like sign up and get a number. Yeah, I was just gonna hop in and just see how far I could make it and or like just turn around. Um, because it's also kind of a logistic thing, but yeah, yeah. So I like I did it with my friend who um shout out to Maggie. She's uh find yourself an injured ultra runner, which there are many, and they'll be on a bike and put them on a bike. Will you untuck your little strings that are tucked into your pants? Wow, they were really so long. I'm sorry, were they in your vagina? Do you just pull them all the way out? They were inside they were so long in there. I know. I don't love a drawstring, I just think it looks slumpier. Well, that's a crazy long drawstring. Isn't it funny how much we care about what we're wearing? And it's a podcast. And it's a podcast. I mean, some people could look at it. Anyway, that's not better, is it? Yeah, I can tell. I know it's not better. I thought they were gonna be cute. They're not. Are they really if they if these were my pants, I would yank the whole thing out. You know what it you know what it's giving? It's giving um college graduation chords. Oh that's how long that drawstring is. It's fine. Leave it like that. It's great. It looks good. I hate you right now. I hate this. Okay. Anyway, so you're with your friend Maggie. Yeah, so Maggie and I were like, she she and I do our strength class together um every week, which is the one thing that I've consistently done this whole pregnancy, and really it's just turning into me going for social hour because I just kind of flop around on a yoga mat now. I don't really do much. Yeah. They're like, okay, now we're gonna do like scorpions. It's like all on your stomach. And I was like, I'll just do shivasana some more. Yeah, perfect. Aren't you not supposed to be on your back? No, I asked my doctor about that. Because like they said you can if but if it's uncomfortable, don't. I was wondering because I was because the weight can kind of compress if your apple was in here. Is she okay? Yeah, she's fine. Um, I was gonna see if you could get a facial because the facial lady is at the It's a second time someone's asked me if I could get a facial in my pregnancy. Anyway. Okay, so I the reason I even want to bring up the Iron Horse is that it was really illuminating the process of making the decision to do it. Oh, okay. It was really stressful, actually. Why? Um, because I got some feedback from someone and they were really upset that I was doing it. It's crazy that you cared about that. It it is crazy that I cared about it, but it it did, it did hit something in my brain. I wasn't even considering not doing like there was no inkling of me thinking it was unsafe, yeah, anything because I was going into it like I'm just gonna listen to my body. Yeah. But then cool by someone bringing up that, like, oh, that's not safe. The altitude, the blood, like pushing your body, la la la. And I was like, okay, well, maybe I need to like clear the like double triple check. So I called Hannah McCrew, who's my mid, she's my second midwife, and my friend who's a midwife. I asked my doctor, I talked to my coach all after this, and everyone was like, You're good. Just you were a professional athlete before you got pregnant. I've done the iron horse one fifillion times. I know what that feels like. Yep. I also know what it feels like to not feel okay and turn the fuck around on a ride. Yeah. And so I think I understand people's concern. I get it. Like, and you know what? You can like internally have that concern for someone else. Um, but it's weird when you're pregnant, everyone voices those inside thoughts, both to your face and on the internet. Isn't it crazy how many people how like how much people care about a fetus? Fancy. Yeah. And mothers. Um I talked about this with my therapist and I I wrote it down because I I really have somehow gone through my maybe I have been judged, but I guess I just have never paid attention to it or like given it a second thought because I really have always trusted myself in doing things, and I've made plenty of mistakes. I'm not saying I've made all the best decisions, but then in in pregnancy, I it's like been this like crash course in like, whoa, people really, really have opinions about me and my body and my pregnancy. Well, and I think there's so much that's unknown about it that like you're you know, there's people that are already part of this club, right? Where they have children and they've experienced it. So you're like, okay, well, they know what they're like they know more, and you're you're inexperienced in that. And so like I can see how like, yeah, you know, their judgment would hit you harder. I even s ran into like some locals because I like went out and cheered for uh the mountain bike race yesterday. Um, and there's a bunch of people they did a story um in the Herald, which I saw that. Yeah, I was like, Oh god, as if I wasn't monitoring the comments. I wasn't oh did it was great, actually. Oh, good. There was like a couple of men that were like, I don't know about that. Like one guy just said, hmm. And I'm like, hmm, what? Why did you feel like you need to fucking comment? I know. I saw like I didn't s I actually didn't see the article, um, just because I don't know, I don't care. Yeah. I saw it and was like, oh, that's my sister. So then I used to be a little bit more. Actually, my nail free art. Yeah. She was like, cute nails, because they used a photo and you could see my nails. So she was like, also proud. Because I, of course, you your nail person ends up your therapist. And I was telling her all because it had just it really, it really messed with my head for a couple of days. And I have to another shout out, the gravel mom's group text. So helpful though. It's really I don't know why I didn't think about it, but my therapist was like, Well, are there other women you can like talk to? And I was like, Yeah, I have plenty of them. Yeah, and so I texted them and I was like, Hey, this is the situation. Like, I'm feeling a little like weird about now. I like I actually feel okay. Yeah, but like I like, am I do am I doing things right? This is dumb. Yeah. And Iz was like, okay, well, I raced the iron, or the Iz raced unbound, 30 weeks pregnant. But it was the same situation. Like, um, she was like, I did so much other like work ahead of that to like make sure I did it safely. She was like, I also wasn't racing. She was like, I just entered it because I needed to go for sponsors. And she was like, I felt good, so I might as well just start this ride. And she was like, and then I just ended up in the front. I think there's just so much comparison, yeah, and probably some there. I imagine there's just like so many feelings that come up for women who are either comparing themselves and they're like, Well, there's no way I would have been able to do that in my pregnancy, you know, and they're just taking their normal experience. That too. Yeah. And that's what I was telling the the girl at the shop because I was like, no, let me be so clear. Like, the stuff that Sarah does not pregnant is stuff that is like superhuman that like we wouldn't touch anyway. So, like, of course, her pregnancy and what that looks like is gonna also be totally different. And like you know what I couldn't do, be a school teacher and be on my feet all day and teach and be pregnant and pregnant, yeah, or like work at an ER, or honestly, probably work at a desk job because for a number of reasons. Many reasons, but like, yeah, I think I I was trying to figure out like a physical, like, I I'm not gonna go rock climbing. I'm not I didn't ski. I did not, I bet not. But also, like, I didn't go ski, not that we had snow this winter, but like yeah, I'm not a confident skier, and I really didn't like I'm talking like alpine skiing. I did cross country, but like I'm you I am used to cross-country skiing, I'm used to riding. I don't follow cross-country skiing. Not cross-country skiing, but no, alpine skiing. I was like, I'm actually it's too risky for me. And like there are other people, it's guess what? There are so many badass professional skiers, or even just participants who are used to skiing, and they they do in their pregnancy, and I'm like, yeah, I will be your biggest cheerleader. Go, go, girl. There's just so much policing that happens to women in general, but especially it seems for women who are pregnant. And and it is crazy because it's like, and what like what do you have? What stake do you have in the game that like you know, you my sister is gonna ride the iron? Like this person on fucking Facebook, oh my god, you know, who's commenting really uh truly, most of the comments were like, you know, oh I got a job, yeah, yeah, totally. I I actually looked through, and then there was one that was like, that's a risk to the medical staff, or someone oh, really? I didn't see that. He told me that there was one, and like I just want to. My response that I really want to comment is like, I got it. You clearly didn't read the article. Exactly. That's the thing, is like you obviously didn't read I thought that too. Which is fine. Like, you know what? I'm not gonna change their mind. No, of course not. It's like you God, it's so weird. It like feels like you're talking about politics. Because it is, it's political. Yeah. Well, thank you. Thank you, society, to for making women's health political. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it is. It is great. But I also like my therapist who has a child, um, she was like, Yeah, you're oh two. Um, she was like, I hate to break it to you, but she was like, pregnant women is just the tip of the iceberg. She was like, Cause then you know who gets judged moms even more? Yeah, yeah. Which is nuts. And they get judged by other moms. Oh, uh harshly. Yeah. Yeah. It's so that's gonna be a really good practice. But it it'll be a good practice for me too, because I can uh it's like going back to COVID. Remember how judgy we all got in the beginning of COVID, like mask wearing, not mask, like it and it was just like it truly was a matter of how you received your information. I actually don't worry about you too much um because because you're really confident and because you because you think things through often, like there's a there is a lot of thought that goes on. Um and that like you're sure of yourself and like you do what feels right. And and I think and like judgment doesn't really hit you as hard as I think it can hit other people. Yeah. Well, I mean it hasn't. It certainly does hit you. Well now it has. That's what I'm like. Oh, it's just weird that it's not just me, it's like another thing. And I understand like, yep, and that that I feel like will be challenging. Um, yeah, in my but and going back to like uh our ad read, like it's all about like the community that you surround yourself with. Like, I really am grateful for those women on my group text because like they and for context, they're all professional athletes who have gone through a pregnancy and have children now, um, young children. And I was like, hey, where were you girls at at 30 weeks? And they all shared their each of their um experience. You know, there was one girl who's like, um, I didn't ask to if I could use their names, so I'm not gonna use their names, but um, other than Is has already shared her experience. But she was like, Yeah, I mountain biked to my final OB appointment, yeah, and back. And she was like, and I got judged for it. Totally, not by my doctor, yeah, but the first thing my doctor said, and I just like, if this is can be a takeaway for anyone, she was like, if you've done it before pregnancy, I mean obviously not hard drugs and alcohol and all the bad things, but she was like, Oh, yeah, she's like, if you've if you did it before your pregnancy, if you feel okay, then continue doing it. Yeah, and to me, the b biggest risk with cycling is crashing and cars. Yeah, and those were two things that I was like, I feel extremely in control on the descents and to not most of the race is actually climbing, so I was like, great. Yep. Actually, I felt fantastic on the descents because when you're pregnant, you have a lot more traction. Yeah. Again, yep. Um, and there were more cars, so yeah, and we stopped. We took so long. I think it's great. It was great. I and I, you know what, mentally I really needed it. I like I just it's really hard as someone who I would say is probably addicted to those endorphin endorphins, like my brain chemistry um has been very altered by this. And I like I do get like kind of some bouts of like not depression, but like, you know, just some low, low moments. And then that is usually when my anxiety creeps in. Yep. So I needed it, so shut the fuck up. And that's all you need to say. I think that's fair. You do might you might want to pull your shirt down just a little bit. There you go. No, I mean it was I was gonna let you just leave it. It was cute, but I figured maybe you didn't want half of your belly out. Um I think it's I I it's interesting and nice to hear all of this from you because I think you're taking I think you're being really smart and you're being really introspective and having to consider somebody like another being that like you are solely responsible for. And I am thinking about it. Of course you are a hundred percent of the time. Of course you are, and I think that's just like preparing you for the moment that I don't it get it kicks me in the ribs. It's crazy. Yeah. On the ride, I was like, Well, it's fine. Because I was like descending and it was like whoop, whoop, woof. It was probably having a lot of fun, honestly, knowing your child. Uh, I know, yeah. No, it's I mean, but thank you. I appreciate it. It really was a wild ride. I really do. And also, trust me, and like that was like my therapist, she's great. Um, but she was like, Why don't you have like in case someone says something to you at the finish about like, wow, you did it, or like, you know, kind of some negative to your like was anyway, nobody did that. Not really, no, no, but I like we had a uh a moment where she was like, Well, how do you actually feel about this pregnancy? Because I mean, I've been pretty like vocal about like I don't love being pregnant. Um, I am actually kind of like changing my view on that, but it is really insanely cool that my body separate of what I want can just do this totally, like it knows I was it like got pregnant and like it knew how to have a little part in that. Well, it knew how to grow a baby, yeah. And now it's moving around inside of me. It is so and I didn't it's not like I was like mentally like okay, grow the foot now. Well, and and so like a piece that you can take with that too is like then your brain and your hormone, like you also part of your body is gonna know what to do when you have a baby. Boy, I really hope so because I don't know anything. I think there is like instinct that does kick in. Like, of course, it helps to like learn things and do stuff, but like I think always coming back to like, okay, I am like wired to do this. Like my body knows what it's doing, and like you and you are really good at listening to your to your gut and like trusting your instinct and like going with it. And I think if you keep doing that and like supplementing with information, because information of course is is great, but like if you aren't sure if you have all the information and you don't know what to do, yeah. I think if you also just like listen to your gut for sure, and the the frustration, yeah, I thank you. I appreciate that, and I I totally agree. And I think women like I understand how hard that is in general to do that, because I mean aside from pregnancy, there's just like there's very little information about women's health in general, totally, and so I imagine I'm gonna like rem again, like not even just talking about pregnancy, because like there really isn't information about pregnancy, yeah, and certainly not like professional athlete level pregnancy either. So, like I totally understand if like you're listening to this and you're like, Well, I kind of think she's fucking crazy for doing that ride at 30 weeks pregnant. Valid, I get it, I totally understand, and and they don't have to do that, and you don't have yeah, and that was my response to this person who was questioning, and I was like, you know, I I get that, but like just because in my head I was like, just because you can't do this ride, yeah, and haven't ever, I get it. It sounds crazy, and it I guess it would be. For somebody who doesn't have drugs for me, I'm like, I already did I already did that ride once in my pregnancy, and then I turned around and rode back. Yeah. So like, and I didn't even think about it. But anyway. Yeah, I I think it's great. I think you're doing a really good job. In fact, I think we are disappointed about that. I am a little disappointed. Um, I was Did you look at your results? Uh I did. How'd you do? I didn't lose. Well, of course you didn't lose. Um, I got there were yeah, I got 29th in the pro women. Damn, how many wait, how many pros were there? I think there were Maggie got 30th, and then there were two other women and then a DNF. Okay. And I'll take it. How'd you do in like your age group? I don't know. Oh probably really well. Uh no. I mean, it was actually like how long did it take you? It took me my ride time was four hours and two minutes. How long did it take you the time that you won? I think around two and a half. Okay. I mean, yeah, and like you have another person inside of you, so like that makes sense. Or I'm not sure. I was just really I I have to say it was extremely uncomfortable. Yeah, like I was not, I was not uh, you know, comfy. So I stopped a lot. Yeah. Um, but I didn't it's not that I it didn't feel good, I was just uncomfortable. Sure. And you're gonna be uncomfortable if you're sitting on the couch too. Yeah, you're just uncomfy, and it feels a lot better than walking. Like I I did a hike that hike last weekend, I peed, I think, eight times in nine miles. Damn. Yeah. But like walking is a lot because like there's just so much pressure force down. Yeah. Um, but then like every like I rode downtown on my like cruiser bike yesterday to go watch the girls race the mountain bike race, and every crack in the sidewalk, I was like, did I pee in my pants? And I did a little bit, and that's okay. That's okay. That's all right. Depends on the pants you're wearing, but honestly, I think that's totally fine. I did have to add, it was so hot yesterday, and I wore these cute little like linen, like little bow peep pants. Oh, they're so cute. Like little bloomers? Yeah, they like have ruffles on the bottom. No, I've been looking for those. God damn it. I need this fancy box subscription that you get, but I I can't. So someone sponsor Hannah. Yeah. I'd like some new clothes, would be really cool. But I did have to ask Dylan. I was like, are my pants clear? Because I was sweating so much. And he was like, he was like, no, but I can see your huge black underwear. Cute. Thank you. Um, okay, what else do we have this week? Um, what else do you have? Well, we're getting ready to go to Unbound. We leave tomorrow. Damn. And you're driving. Uh-huh. Yeah, we always drive. Oh, you do? Uh okay. Yeah, it's nice because like, well, we bring Norm. Yeah. I'm like, honestly, Norm's getting weird. Yeah. Like baby weird? I don't know. I can't it's really I really having an old dog is brutal. We did dig up the backyard. Yeah. Uh, so I think that that made him weirder. Yeah, having an old dog is brutal. His fentanyl got cut off. Oh, yeah. He does. He goes to the fence and like it's he's crazy about it. He like sprints out the back and he has to go to the fence and just like he saw a raccoon there one time, like three or four years ago. I mean, he just he does it no matter where he is. He does it every fence. And so Sarah and Dylan call it fentanyl. Getting his hit of fence. But we took his supply away. Oh. So he's going to be a few. He's got plenty of other fences. Yeah, I know, but he really just loved that one corner. Oh, that's okay. But yeah, we dug we Dylan rented a little mini bobcat, which I was low-key pretty good at. Um, yeah, Dylan posted a video of you sitting in the bobcat controlling it in just a sports bra. It's hot. Yeah, I bet you were. Um, it was there was something so unbelievably redneck about it. All you needed was a little cigarette dangling from your mouth and that pregnant belly, and just like a course. And it was super red. Well, we texted our friend Grady. Uh, he texted him and uh uh who is a uh uh machine operator, like that's his job. And he was like, Man, you're he was like, You're really looking the part, you got the belly down, but he was like, all you need is an NRA tattoo and a cup full of dip spit. And I was like, both of those things can be done and accomplished. But I think I I was better at it than Dylan because I'm better at finesse. Yeah. Dylan was just like, dig down. Well, and then he was like, You're going a little deep there. I was just digging down. But yeah, I ended up operating it for like three or four hours. Do you want to talk about what you're doing in your backyard? We're building a studio. Yippee! Yay! So we don't have to be in this little hellhole. It's it's funny, it's gonna be a lot bigger than this in our house. This room that we're in. It's gonna be bigger than this. Oh, okay. I was like, How did you not get that? It's gonna be a lot bigger than this in our house. This room that's in our house, it's gonna be bigger than you understood when I repeated it back to you. Comma. No, I was just like, how if I were dumb, oh got it. That was really mean. But it's funny. And that's the rule. It is. That's our rule. Yeah, so we're gonna have a little studio uh finally. Yeah, finally. Finally in like four months. I think it'll be great. Well, we're waiting for the city. If anyone works for Durango City, we need those final approvals. Yeah, because it's really holding you back from getting started. No, I like came home and I was like, okay, Dylan rented the bobcat. Oh, we're doing we're doing it. Uh and then there was a little It is kind of nesting. Yeah, it's nesting. You're nesting. Yeah. Touched anything in the street. We still have like just a raw mattress on the floor. Yeah. Do you have any baby clothes at all? Uh Britt got us a little onesie and then Brad. Have you purchased anything? Nothing. Nothing. She's purchased nothing. That's okay. You have a huge apparently a huge baby shower coming up. It's gonna be like your wedding. It's like I I was looking at like the invites that went out, and I was like, okay, everyone has said yes. Not one person has said oh nope, can't come. Everyone is coming. You know what? The more the barrier. I'm gonna be bored. Not that day. Um, I have secured the crown hole um boards. Mandy's really excited, by it. I have good ideas. I have I've I've made progress on how I'm gonna um how I'm gonna make it happen. It is happening. Yeah. At first I was like, I don't know. I don't have a little sparky gave us some ideas for ice dye. For ice dye. We're gonna ice dye. She got some onesies. Yeah. She was like, you also might want to get like some other like age like clothes for that. Yeah. I was like, great. Um, that'll be fun. Yeah, cool. Also, we could ice dye your pants. Are they looking a little dingy? I do happen to wear these um on Thursdays to the shop often. I don't think about it ahead of time, but we get like book deliveries and they're like the dustiest, dirtiest boxes. Also, the UPS driver who delivers stuff to the shop. It's hot. No, um, he's he doesn't like me, right? And I'm like, I don't he he calls Apple side eye. He doesn't like Apple, he doesn't like me. We don't like him. Well, except he delivered stuff this last week and he was like, I know who your sister is, and sat there and talked to me for 30 minutes, likes me now. And I'm like, oh well, talked at me about bikes. And I was like, I don't know how to tell him I don't like bikes, so I don't care about clearly he doesn't listen to the pod. Definitely well, definitely not. Shout out Shout out Rich. Shout out Rich with UP. You know him, he knows you guys. Uh yeah, I do. Uh and he This is some small town shit right here, people. Very I've I've known him for years because like he used to do stuff at alpaca. And anyway, it's funny when someone like that who's like been in your life for a while and you're just like, I don't really like you. Like I've had people like you feel like I don't like him. He just didn't like me. He was always like and how could he? I don't I don't know, it just doesn't make sense when somebody doesn't like me. I don't get it. Like me. It's just because I have a dog and I think he's I rightfully so. I don't think he likes dogs because he's a delivery dude. Fair. Yeah, he's probably been issues. Yeah, he's like, I don't trust her. I call her side eye, and I'm like, she's just weird. I get that. Like uh Norman's just getting barkier and he like howls at every person on the trail. And now I just like I am yelling at Norman when Norman's barking, so I'm like, God, the two of us, it's just yeah, you guys just bark at each other, and then he'll look at me and I'm like, no barking, and then he'll go, they do get funnier as they like Apple's been doing this thing where um like she's just like so solid in like what she wants to do. Like we'll do like a lap at the dog park, and then if I'm like, okay, like we need to go back, she'll stand there and her ears will slick back and she just stares at me until I until I do what she wants to do. She won't move. Norman does this thing similar, but in their house, where I'll be in bed um or on the couch. So those are the two places that I've been frequenting, or on the toilet, uh, and he'll lurk around the corner, not sit down, but he'll lower his head like below his shoulders, and then he'll just be looking at me with his little glassy eyes, like, what is this bitch gonna do? And he just stares at me around the corner. It's probably so weird for him to have you so stationary. Stationary. Probably uh it's about to be a lot weirder for him. I know. Buckle up, buddy. Yeah, it's gonna get real loud, but then he's gonna get real fat when you start introducing all the food. Oh, on the floor? Yeah, yeah, that's the floor. Food on the floor, yeah. You give it to them on the floor and see what gets younger babies. You feed your babies on the floor. That's that's what you're supposed to do. Um, okay, what are you looking for? Like, what's Unbound gonna look like for you this week? Oh, busy, busy, busy. Really? Yes. Well, Unbound is always busy. I'm excited. Um to not race it. Uh, a little bit, yeah. Although it looks like it might be a rainy year, so that would be fun. Um, but yeah, I'll be working with Lifetime again and doing commentating. Oh, cool. Yeah. Uh and yeah, my day is just gonna be like sponsor stuff. Um, I'll do like a photo booth thing with training peaks. So if you're there, we'll do that. Um and then a couple of other sponsor things. I know Garmin is doing their famous like um athlete signing that I unfortunately will miss because I have another meeting, but um, you can go and get free Garmin stuff. They like throw like Garmin's out into the crowd. It's crazy. Yeah, sound fun. Definitely, I don't know the days and times for any of these, so sorry. Uh I'm sure I'll post it in some point. Find it. Um, and then for race day, I'll be doing like the in-field reporting. Oh, cool again. Dang, that's this weekend on Saturday. Don't worry, it'll be 12 hours. Okay, I was like, oh, I wonder how I can do that at the show. Oh, yeah, you're gonna be, yeah. I'll be working. That's okay. Um, yeah, but I like watching that. Doing yeah, it'll be fun. Um, and this year, Lifetime's recording like the whole thing, so like from the start. Wow. Do men and women have separate starts? Yes. Yep. And then this year they did like a more of a vetting process for like just the pros um to race that. So um there'll be fewer men and women than last year, which is probably in the pro category. Yeah. Um, which is good. But there, yeah, there's who do you think is gonna win it? Um truly, in the men and women's, it could be any 10. Like well, sure, but I mean, I think I think Sophia is just really hard to count out, and she's such a good clearly, I mean, really, like it there hasn't in let me be very specific with how I say that. There have been several repeat winners in the women's category, but it was before it was called unbound. It used to have a different name and it was not the same race in a lot in terms of competitiveness. So in modern gravel, i.e. like from 2020 on, 2021 on, it there hasn't been a repeat winner in men and women. So this could be the year that we see it. Like wait, Sophia hasn't been the repeat winner? No. Who won it last year? Uh Sophia. No, uh Carol Car uh sorry, Caro Mignon, Carolina Mignon, uh European women. Oh, so you're saying she could win it again, and then there would be a repeat winner. Sophia or or Caro could win it again. Like, um, I think G is going really well. Yeah. Also. Um, yeah, I just God, it really is gonna be like there's so many women, like there's 10 women and men, um, who are probably the same amount of like strength and fit and whatever. Yeah. So then it just comes down to like race day decisions, luck, support, you know. But they added it, there's a new there's another feed zone. It's a new course. There's three feed zones now instead of just two. Um, but yeah, it's gonna be really fun. Fun. Yeah. I'm excited. Um, I'll be doing the chamois butter ride Friday morning, nine a.m. I do know when that is. There you go. Uh, but it's like this crazy there's like a thousand people who do this pre-ride. It's crazy. Damn. Um, but yeah, I'm just gonna be hanging out. Fun. Dylan's Dylan will be working the feed zones with Anna. Oh, cool. Yeah, so they'll and Norman. The three of them will hang out all day. Great. Wow. And then we'll drive. We like camp. We'll camp with Ellen and Howard. Nice. Um when do you get back? Monday. Okay. Mm-hmm. And then I'm here. Yeah. And then so is this your last like trip? Yeah. Whoa. But I did. Okay. I know this is like a really baby heavy episode. I mean, you kind of I have a heavy baby.

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I had my glucose test, which I passed. Oh, good. Did you get some jelly beans after? No. No, but it was it wasn't comfortable. I got my T dab vaccine, which is I forgot they're painful afterwards. I need to, I I was I have to call my doctor. I'm pretty sure I got that when I went to Glasgow. I feel like you should call because I feel like you must have. I will call. I yeah, I probably also had one, but I'll make Jeff call too. Anyway. Yeah. Um, so I passed that. But it was funny, it was like the only part of pregnancy that cycling has really prepared me for was drinking a sugary drink when you don't want to drink it. No. Great. Which actually it wasn't bad because like classic Durango, you know, uh midwives, uh, they make their own.

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Which is great. So you just have to like you like don't eat any carbs before your appointment, and then you go in and then you drink this sugary drink, and then they test your blood. And it's basically like to test for gestational diabetes. Yeah, which I don't have. Insulin resistance and stuff. Good job. That seems like I would be really nervous about that. I wasn't, and then I was driving out there and I was like, I just really wanted to eat toast. So then it kind of me anyway. Um, and then we took a breastfeeding class. Okay, I just like set the scene. Are you guys at like where are you? Are you I just picture you guys like sitting on the ground with pillows with a fake baby on your booby? Totally. Is that what it is? It sort of was like that. It was really funny. Okay, it was not totally like well, so alright, for people who want to know the same. Well, okay, I learned that mid, like having a midwife means different things based on where you are in the country. So, like, I have a friend who's pregnant. She was like, she knew that I like am going to the midwives of Southwest midwives here. Our midwives don't do home births, they only work out of the hospital in the birthing center at the hospital here. So it's sort of like for me, it was really appealing to make the decision between like there's two choices. You can do like four corners, OBGYN, or midwives. And midwives was the one that I chose. They're really similar, but like they're they're midwives, they're not MDs, I guess. Um, but they're in the hospital, and there will be a doctor at the birth as well. But the most important dis distinguishing factors, hospital versus home birth, no hospital. Right. And our midwives only do hospital. Cool. And that's what you have chosen. And that's what I've chosen. Right. Um, and other people choose other shit. Yeah, totally. Whatever. Yeah, I I actually like don't fucking care. Like it's up to you. Exactly. It's not your thing to care about. No, and there there was a woman, there were two women in our uh breastfeeding class that were like trying to decide between like home birth and not. Yeah. La la la. My friend in a different state, uh, she's pregnant. She was trying to find midwives because she wanted a similar setup to us. It doesn't exist where she lives. Midwives only do home births where she is. What? Crazy. Yeah. Anyway, so I wanted to. I didn't know that. Okay, so you were breastfeeding class. So I also gave Dylan an out. I was like, this thing is three hours. Oh my god. $60, best 60 bucks I've ever spent. Wow. Three hours. And um, of course, I like didn't read the full email. So like people show up with like their own comfortable chairs, and Dylan and I were just like there. So we set our own comfortable chairs. Guess what? A lot of balls, those like bouncy ball things that the all the ladies were sitting on in camp chairs. Camp chairs. Campchairs. Everyone brought their own camp chairs. So Dylan and I like luckily So you guys just sitting on the tile floor? We got there early, which Durango time. Which is crazy. No, we were on time. Oh, okay. It's not late, but we were the first ones there. Oh, great. And so we got the couch. And anyway, so we were like, there were like four or five other couples, and Dylan showed up because I was like, of course he fucking did. No, I mean, I really wasn't like, you don't have to go. Yeah, but it was like. But I was like, no, really, you don't have to go. Like, if you want to, you're welcome, but it's three hours, and like mainly I was like, it would kind of be easier if you didn't come to the city. Listen, I don't judge women, but I'm gonna I would have judged him if he didn't go to that. Oh, really? Yeah, totally. Oh, that's funny. I mean, I'm glad he went. I think he was also like Dylan and I are big information people. Like, we don't we all of our friends who have had kids had them so long ago that we didn't pay attention whatsoever. Yeah, or like you know, you're just not in it. Like you're doing your own lives. Totally. So we don't know shit. Yeah. So I'm like, great, sign me up. I want to learn about breastfeeding. I have no idea. I have no idea. Really, it was like, like, let's hear about it. Okay, well, really what I learned was truly how different everyone's nipples are. Yeah, you ever seen a nipple? They all look different. I have, but like I I was blow, she showed us some videos and the truly the areola size. Oh, remarkable, remarkable difference. I mean, does does not everyone get what they're like? There's a certain point in a female friendship when you're like, let me see your friends' nipples. I've never seen nipples like what I saw at that class. Tell me about them. What'd you see? Okay, well, the craziest thing that I learned was, um, and she showed us a video. I want to hear about the craziest areola that you saw. It's part of the story. Okay. Joked. So um she was talking about we covered so much. It was basically like a birth birthing class um light, uh, but emphasis on breastfeeding. So she was like, there's this thing that happens after you give birth vaginally that is called the like magical hour. And what and everyone has heard about skin to skin, same thing. Sure. They like plop the baby on you. If you have a c-section, they do skin to skin with dad while you're like getting stitched up, which by the way, it at our hospital um is 30 minutes. They do it within 30 minutes of you like having a c-section, then they wheel your ass back in and plop the baby on you. Cool, yeah, which is pretty cool. I mean, makes sense and also terrifying. So, anyway, yeah, talking about uh a vaginal birth, they like flop the baby out, it's still like umbilical cord on, like connected to you. And then when you're dealing with like all the other stuff that's not having to push out the placenta, um, the baby's on you, they like cover it with a blanket. And like, I don't think this happens at every birth, but like I'm having like a medium hippie birth where like I have a doula who is also the woman who's also a professional at like late. There's incense, but like no no white dreads, right? So we're like, we're like or like no, there's a salt lamp, but no incense. And there's no flowy clothing, but like but like it's it is linen. There is linen, but there is linen involved, but it'll be trendy bow pee pants. No, just kidding. And like there is music, but it's not an African drum circle. No, okay. I'm just trying to like won't have our drummer medium medium hippie, okay. No bonkos. Yep, but maybe a drum set. We don't know.

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Um, so she she like really fights for this because she's like, it's really important. And I kind of see why. So I didn't know that babies do this. If they flop them out on you, they put them like on your stomach, they can sniff out the smell of your nipples and they crawl. Ew, the smell of your nipples. They do. They crawl. I watched it with my own two eyes happen in this woman's birth. They show this this woman's actual birth, they flop the baby onto her, and it's like crawling over the course of an hour, it makes its way up to one of her boobs to start feeding. And it's a really important process of like Anna's face is like exactly what mine was doing in the class. What's this process called? I she just said like the birthing, like the magical, like it's like called it. Snorfeling. Yeah, like it's always swamping. Yeah. No. It has to be something like Isn't that crazy? Like truffle pigs. Just looking for that truffle, sniffing it out, growing up to that little milk truffle. Can't wait to give birth to my truffle pig. That is the creepiest thing I've ever heard. Also incredible. But no, no, it was so like Dylan and I were both like Was anyone else in the class just like as how many people were though? Okay, so like the there were like five other couples, and it was really funny because it very like one of the other women um was I recogniz two of the women go to the same prenatal yoga class that I go to. Um, and so I know like tiny little bits about them, but everyone sort of fit the stereotype, you know. Like there was the really young couple who clearly not really young, like she was probably like late 20s. Um that's like when a lot of people a teen birth, basically, teen pregnancy over there. She's like 29. Um, not very much. They were just like they the guy seemed really young, but like they were there, and like it was very much like she clearly had like many siblings that have had children already, and she knew a lot, like more than anyone else in the class. And I was like taking notes, and I was like, right. Yeah. Um, and then there was like there was like the other like kind of hipster trendy couple like us that were like kind of like maybe less clueless than me and Dylan, but just like yeah, just kind of in it, like super chill. Um and then there was like a much older couple than us, and they also didn't know shit. I mean, because but everyone was like, Dylan and I were just like giggling about everything like because I'm friends with the woman who is teaching it, and she's also my doula. Oh uh. She also passed me at the Iron Horse. Oh, cute. She was like, good job, sir, and like kept going. Because she like wanted to beat the train. She's a yeah, anyway. Did you beat the train? I don't think so. Okay. I I I there's no way we could have. Okay, anyway. I think it Maggie said it was maybe pulling in. That was nice of her to say that. It had pulled in. It had been there, it had been there. It was actually leaving, yeah. It's pulling out. Um yeah, anyway, it was. I think that was like the biggest thing that but we did put it. Wait, what about the areola? Oh, so in that movie, yeah. It just was it's just like a um, it was they showed all these births around the world and like how different the cultures were, but also like the process is kind of the same. Right. But the nipples are different. Process is the same. Nipples are huge, full-on dinner plates. It and then, like, okay, here's the takeaway. Nursing, and I knew this ahead of time because all of my really good friends have all of them had a really, really hard time nursing. Yeah. And so in my head, the reason truly the reason I signed up for this class was I I'm expecting it to be the hardest part. Yeah, truly challenging. And watching this woman, like you have to grab your whole boob. So we like Dylan, like literally grabbed my cracked boob in the whole thing. That's crazy. Could he even get his hand around it? And you just jam it in the baby's mouth. But they're okay. So if you have ouchy nipples, they shouldn't be bleeding, like they shouldn't be like bleeding and sore and cracked if you're nursing correct. Uh-huh. Lee. Um, the latch. It's all about the latch. But they're showing lactation consultants that come in. They do. Is that like a hospitals have like an upgrade? Or do you get problems? Oh, does that come with a like standard package? I think you have to seek out a lactation specialist. But there's if you we have a lot of them here in Durango. Yeah. Kelly is one of them also. But she knew a ton. I mean, it's crazy. Like Dylan, Dylan and I were like, we had no idea that the way that the boob sits. Well, she was like, it's called breastfeeding, it's not called nipple feeding. And I just didn't realize how far in the baby's mouth your like a good chunk of your boob goes. Just the whole. Yeah, and it showed like it was like a diagram of like where anyway. What? This is gonna be so this. I'm so excited for this because also I'm sure we just lost like 90% of the male listeners. If we ever had a male listener, they're gone. No, I got so many people at the Iron Horse, mostly dudes, were like, I love the podcast. Incredible. It's usually guys. We haven't listened to this episode. We haven't sorry. Sorry about your little truffle pig. I just I feel like this is such a gift because I really am not sure if I'm gonna have children. Why would you want to after this? I think I like I'm at where I'm at right for this moment. I'm definitely leaning, leaning no. If you don't want your own little truffle pig fact moment, I'm definitely leaning no. But I am like excited to kind of experience it secondhand because we're so close. Like, I know I'm gonna be sitting there watching the thing happen and just be like, whoa! Oh my god. Oh my god. It's gonna be crazy. Yeah, it's gonna be seems really hard. Seems really hard. It seems really challenging, and like, and you're just really tired, and it's gonna be so cool. Anyway, shout out to anyone who's done this because a lot of people I think have. I know, I know. Also, yeah, there's just boy, but there's so much I remember a really close friend of mine. I mean, how old is her or her kids? She had a really hard um birth and she ended up having a C-section and her milk just never came in. And the going back to the judgment piece, she just wasn't able to breastfeed. Like she couldn't, and the oh my god, the judgment she got from her mother-in-law, from her mother-in-law's friends, and she's like, obviously, if I had the ability to, I would breastfeed my children. I'm not making this choice to do formula. Also, if you do make that choice to do formula, fine. The point is to feed your kid. And if you're feeding, it's just my friend was like, it's more expensive. Like, why would I anyway? Right. Yeah, no, we're it's just crazy. Get it. So, anyway, that's all I have. Oh, that's it. Three things written down. Well, I've got a lot going on in my life. Um, Jeff left town, which means that all of the bugs came into the house. I don't know what it is. It's do you leave the doors? No, no, it's so crazy. Uh not at all, but the second he leaves town, all- So he kills all of them. No, no, they just don't exist, like they aren't there until I was saying. So there's been this cricket. This is our lives are so different. I'm like, check out these areolas, and Hannah's like, there's this cricket. No, but let me tell you about this fucking cricket. So it was hopping around, and I was like, oh fuck. And crickets to me are just like I like them. They're just I I like listening to them. I don't want them in my bathtub, which is where this one ended up, is in the bathtub. They're just jumpy cockroaches, right? Like, I don't like their shiny exoskeleton. It's like they're excavators. Excavators. I don't like it. So this one is in the shower, and and they're too bit, like I don't want to squish it, but I don't want to catch it because they're jumping. So it's in the shower, and I was like, fuck. But then I was like, okay, I'm not taking a shower tonight. Um, and then the next morning it was gone. And I was like, okay, great. It hopped out and it's not my problem anymore. And then the next night I was ready to go take a shower back in there, back in the tub. So I'm like, oh fuck. Oh, he wanted a shower. I think he's been going down the drain. Oh no. So then didn't take a shower again. This is two days, right? And it's like perfect excuse to not take a shower. The next day, the next morning, gone again. And I was like, I've got an idea. I like turned on the faucet, had a bunch of water that went down, and then I was like, Oh, I have like a hair trap thing. I'll put my hair trap in there so it can't come out. So I know, I'm so sorry. The poor cricket, it's probably dead. So anyway, I did that. Oh my gosh. And then I took a shower that night later, right? But then the hair trap was like full because I had to wash my hair. Um, and so I was like, okay, I need to like jumped onto your face. Right onto my areola. It sniffed it out. Your areola, areola. No, but I did like it. Just like a treble pick. It went right to my treffle. It didn't, it didn't jump, but I did, I like kicked the like hair trap over. Um I got you such a creepy and it was in the it was like in the inside of the hair trap in the dead. I don't know. I put the hair trap back. I have a waiting for Jeff to get home to take it out. Well, we had a I just it that I had a very similar but very different experience with a wild animal in my bathroom. What'd you have? Um, well, I cleaned our hot house. I mopped our floors, and I think the smell of whatever I was like using to clean the tile, we've seen it's potentially Norman's sibling at this point. It's the largest spider I've ever seen in my life. Okay, I'm like, is it a mouse? And we saw it in the bathroom, I don't know, weeks ago. And Dylan and I neither of us kill spiders. No, I don't either. I don't, I really don't. Cricket killer. No, I only if it's in my like inconveniencing you? Wait for this story. So anyway, I find out where the spider home is, and it there's like the tiniest little like crack in our doorway, and I watched it, it came out again into our bathroom when I was like mopping, and I was like, like this thing is bigger than an areola. It's huge, and it went, it came out, and I think it liked the whatever I was putting on the floor, and then it sort of got stuck. Oh no. And so then I made a little toilet paper bridge back to its own so it could make it back? Yeah, did you watch it go on the bridge? Uh-huh. Did you really? Uh-huh. And it used it? Yeah. Because it's really sweet. Have you seen spider paws? Oh my god. Spider puppies? Spider travel pigs and spider puppies. Uh no, go look. They have like if you zoom in on spiders' legs, they have paws that look like little puppy paws. See, uh spiders don't bother me. Sure, whatever. No, I'm serious. Exoskeletons really do. And uh well, then I was I was talking to Jeff about it. I would have done the same for a cricket. And he was like, Well, how do you feel about grasshoppers? And I was like, less less of a thing for me. I can deal with grasshoppers easier. It's the like shiny black, like the cockroach aspect of it. But then I was tested because literally the next day I was like writing in my journal and a and a grasshopper, a fucking grasshopper jumped. These bugs haven't been here for months, and then Jeff leaves, and they're all like, okay, here we go. No, I think he probably gets rid of them. No, he really doesn't. I think it's the time of year, is actually what it is. There's yeah, there's one thing that makes sense, and it's that he leaves around the same time every year, and that is when the bugs come out. We're seeing hoof hoof prints and thinking zebra right now.

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You're supposed to think horse. Got it. Wait. Uh oh, there's a new um hockey romance show. What? But it's straight. I started watching it last night and I was like, ugh, this is so basic and boring. And then I was like, Alright, I'm in. I can't remember what it's called, but it's on Amazon. Oh, fine. We finished Margot's Got Money Troubles. Is it over now? I think so. Because they've been coming out every yeah, we're caught up. Oh, okay. I'm too. It seemed like the end. It's not. Oh, really? Well, I've read the book, so I know that that's not the end. Oh, we'll maybe the book. You should. There's a whole um another part of the book. There was a big story. Oh, then I haven't seen that yet. Okay. Then yeah, it is probably the end. I was like, it feels like the end. Yeah. Um, there's a whole other part in the book. I think that's gonna be my Halloween costume, sorry. With Dylan. Is oh cute. He will be Nick Offerman. Jeff kind of looks like Nick Offerman. A little bit, yeah. With the beard. Yeah. Uh-huh. But like I don't really see Dylan as Nick Offerman. No, no, he's gonna be the dad. Yeah. For the Halloween, because next Halloween we're gonna have it's not her husband, it's her father, Sarah. Well, I know, but I think it's just funny. Oh, okay, cute. Love that. Great. Um wait, okay. I have how much time do we where are we at? Oh, we're good. Okay, I have two other things to talk about. One, have you seen the young woman hiking the PCT in the pink? The OnlyFans girl? Is she OnlyFans? Yes, she is. No, I didn't know. Well, wait, is she always like in a cute like fit check kind of like she's always in like pink. She has like little hair clips that She puts in and she like puts on her like makeup and she's like yeah, so she's like funding the whole thing, doing like OnlyFans, but um smart girl, smart girl, people are love it. I mean, I think she rage baits everyone, like there's so much rage baiting that's going on and masturbating, you know. And she's capitalizing on all of it, and she is, and I honestly I think it's awesome. Yeah, good. And she like doesn't have like a full like Do you think she's gonna make it? I think she I think she is, yeah. I think it's actually kind of great because like she doesn't have like all the nicest gear. What? No, keep going. No, no, it is fun to talk to you when you're just not paying attention and writing something down. I wrote it down so I don't forget. Okay, um, but yeah, she doesn't have like fancy gear, it's all pink, but she just like I mean, and she is she's hiking it and she's doing the thing. She definitely doesn't seem like she has like tons of experience, but she's I think there's this okay. What I wrote down, um, and I do want to come back to it, um was satisfy. Did you see this? Do you know what satisfy is? No, it's a brand. Okay. Okay. Anyway, I love when like there's like this this limit, right? Like you outdoor sports, cycling included, have gotten like, I think because of the internet and because of capitalism, you just start convincing yourself that you need these certain things to do the thing. Yep. And but but then there is the other side of that of like information and experience and safety is part of it. So like good gear does make a difference in certain and can be a safety thing. For sure. Yeah. Like, um, I think there's just there's just a balance. So like while I do really love so much to see someone who's like less exp less experienced. I love seeing her put her hair clips in. I love seeing her put her makeup on in the morning. If you want to haul all that shit, like she's stronger for it. Yep. All of her fucking dildos and and vibrators and stuff, she's hauling all that shit. What? She's only fans. I thought she was just because OnlyFans is sort of like a Patreon. Like it's just paid content. Like you don't have to do sexual stuff. She is, and the reason she's heavy. I bet. She posted this thing. I don't know. I have never touched any of those things. She um she like posted this video where she was like, normally I have and she's like, she's not super outward about it, right? Like it's it's quiet, like on her Instagram-ish. Like you can, I I think it might be linked, right? On her like YouTube or something. Um, but she had this video where she was like had her backpack and she was like, normally, she's like, I'm not working today. And so like normally I have all of my like work um stuff like at the bottom of my pack, but she was like, But I've left this one thing out, and she had like in her little like pouch next to her thing, and you can't really tell what it is. You can just see that it's like kind of this like purple like silicone something, right? And it's like it's a vibrator. Like, oh, that's really like if you you can like put the pieces together and know what it is, but she's the same girl, I wonder. She's real, she seems really young, she's gotta be like early, early 20s. Okay, she's like this tiny little blonde, yeah. Yeah, I just didn't know she actually was doing the OnlyFans stuff. It's really funny. Definitely is. You know, it's only a matter of time. Money. I think she's making so much. Now I think she's gonna have all the nicest gear. I think she's just like slowly like getting nicer gear. Okay, I have to tell you about this thing. I wish I knew what her name was so I could send people her direction. And I I can't remember what it meant. You'll sniff it out if you want to go look. Be a little truffle pig. Yeah, be your own truffle pig. Yeah, find that nipple. Um there's some idea for some swag in the future. Truffle pig. I would wear a truffle pig hat. Did you see? You might have seen this on your internet. Um, so this brand called Satisfy, it's this running brand. And they're like Cool Guy LA, like they they got like sort of famous for this uh shirt called Mothtech. You've talked about Mothtech. Okay. So this is the brand. Okay. And they Mothtech is meaning there's a bunch of like intentional holes. It's like ventilation, but they're like these cotton shirts that just have holes in them. Yes. Um, unfortunately, I do actually like the look of it. Yeah. Not of not from that br brand. Yeah. Uh, but a different one. Anyway, so Satisfy has blown up over the years, and they're now like they all, it's like very dark colors, like nothing colorful at all. Like, that's their vibe. They did this collab with Adidas. Is it Adidas? Or if you're in the UK, Adidas. Adidas. Adidas. Okay, whatever. And they had this like influencer thing that made it onto the internet. So it was invite only. It was, I think it was launch of this collab. So, like, but it was in the air somewhere in Arizona. And to me, it looked, I like texted Danny, my friend, and I was like, is this how people see cycling? Because to me, it looked like there were like 12 people running around this like paved pump track with a metal band in the background, but then it was just like really embarrassing looking because there weren't very many people, and it was in broad daylight. And I'm like, what? I have so many questions. Why are all these influencers in crop tops, men and women, running around? I looked into it and was like, I still don't know. Well, I just was like, this is be this is sport beyond what I know. And so I this isn't for me. Me too. This isn't for me. It it triggered something in me that I was just like so turned off by. But like these people think they're so cool, but actually to like gen pop, they look so dumb. But maybe it's cool. Is it cool? I think they've passed cool and they're too cool. Ugh, that's a weird place to be. Oh no, there was a the funniest parody that I saw was this dad. And at first, like you thought that he was invited to the satisfy thing, and it was really just him running around while his kid played in the playground. And he was filming himself doing all these like jumps off of these things. I love people. It truly, it like gave the inner. I mean, in some ways it was a really successful launch because people were like, What the fuck? But like, of course, I recognized a couple people that were invited. Oh, really? But they were like, I think they just have you know, they're good sports about it. Yeah, I mean, how do you know? Like, you like are invited to this thing and you think it's gonna be really cool, and then you end up being like, Oh, that was a good thing. It's like this funny thing, like going back to like OnlyFans Hiker Girl, like with not the right equipment. Like, I think they kind of started in some ways of like just disrupting, you know, the the category, if you will. Like they they were a brand that looked different than like the Nike's and the Adidas and all the normal and Lululemons out there, and it was like kind of grungy, like dirty. But also these shorts are $300, and the shirts are like $250. I'm sorry. No faking. I know, and cycling is a fucking way. No, no, no, to go sweat in it and have it smell gross, but it's absolutely insane. I can do that, no fucking problem. That I can do it, in fact. I have I have no interest in that. That is that's the most it's the price. The price was really, and I say that like I am in the sport of cycling and everything is really expensive, but also like a chamois, like there's some like tech to it. Yeah, you gotta have like aerodite. There's a lot of like there's a lot of tech that goes into like the super advanced. It still doesn't need to like you still don't need all of that shit to like no, you can go around your fucking thing a cotton thrift store shirt and like some panties. I don't care. Or not. I've done a naked crit. They call that a clit. Oh my god, Lily, we're gonna have to put smiley for work. She does on every single one. She does. Okay. So I think it's all rated like R. Maybe like not. I know, but maybe we need to do just like a it's fine. No, not because you said clit, but because like just the I don't know. I just want to make sure people are informed because some of our episodes are fine to listen to. I don't think any of them are. We I think we cuss in every single episode. Maybe the first one we didn't. I think we've got to. Because you were like, don't cuss. And I was like, okay, I'll try not to. And then we dropped that really quickly. Um because it's not authentic, it's not our brand. Nor is satisfying. Definitely not my brand. It really was so insane. I know it kind of bummed me out. Like, I there was this guy um uh who I do follow. He's this like runner TikTok guy who's like mid-40s, he does all the like Coca-Dona, like the crazy stuff, but he doesn't take, he has like a million TikTok followers and Instagram. He's crazy. Um, but he's like kind of a normal dude. Cool. And he like wears like dorky stuff, but he was invited and he was like, Is this am I unk? Is that am I like he just is like not a cool guy? And I was kind of bummed. I mean, I was stoked that I was like, I hope that he paid well. Sure. And I'm sure he did. Sure. But he was like, I am uncomfortable, I don't fit this vibe, and he doesn't, like, yeah, yeah, crazy. Anyway, um what else was on your list? I only have one other thing, it's just you had OnlyFans and your cricket. I'm telling you, I'm living a crazy life over here. It just is summer. Oh, I know. Oh, yeah, let's talk about your list. What? No, sorry, I just thought of another thing. Speaking of the end of the internet, I've do you follow the woman who's built who's building the mine under her house? I have s I don't follow her, but I have seen I've seen little bits of that. It's crazy. She's an engineer. This project has been going on for like six years. She's literally building like this super legit mine. Like she has she has permit, she's permitted the whole thing now because she kind of got shut down. I bet. Because she I don't think she's mining anything. That I don't want to no, I don't want to, I don't think I don't know if they definitely don't have permits for it, but they're like sure. Well, we don't have a permit for our shit either. They have been constructing, I mean, they own the land that the mine lives on. Yeah. Um, and they're doing some cool stuff. It just kind of was really I was like, wow, you really just don't know what people do behind closed doors. Which brings me to my next point, which is where I am on the internet. You really just don't know. Um, have you seen the videos of the like college mascot reveals? Oh, I've just seen a lot of them are girls. A lot of them are girls, and for some reason they make me cry every time. And I don't know why. Have I do I know who any of these mascots are? Do I know which school they are? Absolutely not. Do I they're not gonna be able to do are they like colleges? Yeah, they're I think they're college. Great question. No, they are yeah, they're colleges because then they graduate, and so like they don't nobody knows that they do this. I just saw one girl wearing the feet. They like keep it a secret from their friends and families for like because it's like a big secret. Like who the mascot is. Isn't Hannah Burner the the mascot for her college? I have no idea. Oh, I started watching Summer House. Oh Erica, um, Erica Kirk was on it, like Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk? Yes. Okay. I was watching it and falling asleep one night, and I was like, wait, what? Is that Erica Kirk? She was on it well before, like uh somebody who was in the house went on like a date with her. Oh, would your baby kick you? Would your baby kick you? Yeah, right in the ribs. Cut it out, that's my sister. Now it's moving over here.

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No weird. Anyway, um, yeah, so they these mascots like keep it a secret from their friends and family, and then like graduation day, they like take reveal, they take the like head off, and like watching Sarah's face just getting absolutely annihilated by that baby. It's okay. Anyway, that's all I had. Um and it makes me cry every time, and I think it's crazy to just like keep it from your people and then just like the big secret I would never trust them again. But yeah, a lot of them are girls, which I also think is really fucking great. Charisma. Yeah, exactly. The job requirement, and of course it's women. Of course it is. Okay, well wrap it up on yeah, you want to take a stab? No, I don't have any of my notes. That's fine. Yeah, sorry, that was a wild ride, everyone. Yeah, that was. It's been it's we missed. I'm sorry we didn't do last week. Um Sarah didn't want to. I didn't want to. There's literally no other excuse to like. I just was like, I didn't have a ton of stuff, and like we hadn't locked down some sponsors and blah blah blah. And she didn't want to. She didn't want to see me. No, I did. Did you? I really truly, I was like, anyway. No, it worked out great for it. It was great. And now we have a lot of we have truffle pigs to crickets to mascots and all these. New tent. Lots of content. Um, okay, just a quick reminder. I'm not gonna do the full the full read, but um, in case you missed the beginning of this episode, uh, go listen to the first two minutes um because we talk about our newest sponsors, which which are two group rides. Um, and one is Think Gravel It's Friday. Their far out ride um is on July 25th. Um and it's a really in Boulder, sorry, thank you. Um, and it's a free gravel ride. Well, I didn't know that I don't I didn't know that was free. Yeah, free gravel ride through the foothills of the Rockies starting in Boulder. Um and it's a really cool, like that's Think Gravel It's Friday is like a fun Instagram handle to follow. And babies kicking her. It's tickety uh from the inside. And um, but they're they're hosting this far out ride, um, which sounds really cool, especially if like you've never done a bike race before. This is kind of a fun way to get some cool experience for free. Um, and then also uh the Ride for Hope, um, which is a group that raises awareness and funds for mental health support and initiatives in Colorado communities. Awesome. Um, and they're also doing a big ride event um in Ohio uh this September 18th to the 21st. Um, and they're they're basically riding from Cleveland to Cincinnati. So it's roughly 340 miles. So if you're into like the bikepacking group, bikepacking big challenge ride thing, go check this out. They only have 20 more spots available of the 30. Um, and yeah, sounds like a really good time. And you can follow both on Instagram. We will link them in our show notes. And if you're at Unbound, follow my Instagram and I'll post what I'll be doing and when. But I will be waddling around and sweating. So and that does sound fun. Okay, all right, bye.