Balloons, the Giro, and boa constrictors

Sarah and Hannah spent a lot of time together this week, and they’re still cooling off from a hike-related argument. They catch up on some loose ends from last week (the PCT OnlyFans hiker, a high-profile lawsuit in the outdoor industry, and the deeply uncool nature of running), and do a deep dive on all the drama at the Giro de Italia. Then, they get up to speed with Lael Wilcox’s 'round the world challenge, contemplate the amount of saliva in ‘Love Island,’ and reveal the crowd-sourced answer to Hannah’s question about the mud at Unbound last week.

This episode is sponsored by Thank Gravel It’s Friday and the Ride for Hope.   

You can follow Lael’s ‘round the world record attempt here: https://www.laelwilcox.net/2026-around-the-world-faster 

Instagram: @talking.over.you

Transcript

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Welcome to Talking Over You with Sarah Sturm and Hannah Sturm. Here we go. If you're gonna be an asshole, be funny. At least be funny. I thought it was a man coon. We need to have like a real athlete on here. It makes me consider different careers every time I have to pee in my chamois. This notebook is really funny. It has everything from like my like notes from like my sponsors and contracts to uh sourdough recipes. And then we have race calendar, more more sponsor notes. Oh, and then we've transitioned to nursing class notes and birthing class and then also to-dos and uh more podcast notes. Ooh, you want to know what mine has? Um journaling stuff, um, and then stuff about buying a house, um, more journaling, ooh, money stuff, literary festival, some doodles, podcast, um, and wine things. There you go. There you go. We're organized. Wow, we've got it all. Everything you could ever possibly want or need right here. I'm so behind on my text messages. How many text messages do you want to be able to do? Oh, my computer is showing 201. Oh, Sarah. So if you listen to this podcast and I'm your friend. Sorry, I hope I still am. That's crazy. I know. It's really overwhelming, and it is part of my my disability. But also, like, I I think it's tough because my work has sort of like melded into text messages. I don't know. I also just get really overwhelmed, and then I want to do a good job responding, and then I just leave it on read because I think I'll get to it later. Totally. And that was the best thing that Apple could have possibly done is make it so that you can mark things as on read. Because they're they're emails. Like, I feel that way about um like Instagram messages too, where I'm like, oh, I have so many that I haven't like like for the shop, for the pod, personal, like there's so many things that I'm like, I haven't responded to things. Yes, and it does all like it, it's an interesting thing that now it it like that is work. Yeah, and the way that I like triage text messages, well, I was trying to explain this earlier. I do it and I understand why people do it, especially like millennials, but like instead I'm gonna get there. Oh, okay. Instead of instead of sending separate text messages, like, yeah, sounds good. Oh, by the way, then there's this, which is also annoying because you get like three texts in a row. They'll do like it's usually when you're like on your computer, I think, and you can do like a soft return, but they'll it'll be like one big text, and then all I do when I get one, especially if I'm writing, I only see the first sentence, and so I just think that that is the subject. And so if you have multiple subjects in that text, I won't know. Although now Apple has started summarizing, which the AI summary is really funny. It is really funny. Uh yeah, I had a really crazy one the other day from one of my friends that was like, um, it was like stopped uh um traffic, like human trafficking, because she like does like bank um oh yeah stuff. And so like she sees like transact, she like does fraud bank stuff, and and the summary was like uh human trafficking, miss you girls, love you. Mrs. Hugh loves you. Yeah, yeah. It's like wow. Oh god. That's a weird one. Anyway, so I apologize that I haven't responded back. Same with like Instagram messages. The thing is, like, I see a lot of them, I just like I haven't had a chance to like. Here's what I struggle with birthday texts and now like baby when we I still have unread ones from when we announced our pregnancy that were the nicest messages, and like the nicest ones I leave unread because I want to respond nicely and thoughtfully. Yes, but I truly don't have the mental capacity or time. I'm really I just make myself really busy, and I know that's on me, but even if I have time, I don't fill it with then responding to text messages, but I think about it, and maybe other people with ADD can relate to this. I think about it all the time, every single day. I'm the same way. You know what it is I remember all of them. I totally exactly all sitting in all 204 of you now. Yeah, no, I I am absolutely the same way. Um, our cousin Josh, who owns a record label, is probably like the busiest human being in the world, is the fastest tech like responder to texts. I had a I had a correspondence with him that wasn't as fast and it made me feel better. Okay, because I'm like, okay, actually, I think the move is to just respond immediately. Like the people who are the busiest, I think respond just immediately. Yeah, because it's like as it comes doing something. Well, true. Um, I should I should respond immediately. But I actually don't like that. Sorry, we're just gonna dive right in. I actually don't love that my pet peeve, and I notice it, I I know I've done it myself, and I try really hard to not do it when I'm with friends, but I don't like when I'm I don't love when you're like in a group setting and then someone's on their phone, but I understand that like something happens. The thing that I really hate that I really actually try not to do ever is when I'm talking to someone and when it's my the other person's time to talk, they get on their phone. Like, like if you and I were talking, and then like I'm talking and you get on your phone? Yeah, you do that while we're on the podcast. Well, I'm looking at stuff for the podcast. No, I know. I can't. Have you been on other people's podcasts? They do that. No, I've never done that. Why would I? That would be terrible. Um I can't do that. I always tell when we're on the phone with each other and you start texting. Okay. I can tell when you're in the back seat of the car and I'm like telling a story, and then you go, sorry, and you're texting. I usually tell you who I'm texting and what I'm texting about. You're right. You are much better at that. Thank you. Okay, let's move on. Oh my god, Hannah. Jesus Christ, that's so annoying. We've been spending time together this weekend. That just pissed me off. Sarah. I I could call, I know exactly the friends that do it. I have three in mind, and I could call you out on this podcast, but I'm not going to. I think you should. I'd like to hear. You would, clearly. Okay. Um, as for the most important part of the podcast, is talking about our lovely sponsors of today's episode. We have two again. Um, and if you've listened to other two episodes, you'll know a little bit about Think Gravel It's Friday and The Ride for Hope. Um, both awesome ride groups. Uh, they have a lot of information on their Instagram. Um, Think Gravel It's Friday has a far out event. Um, so they're a ride group in the Boulder area. Um, they have a far out event um on July 25th and August 29th. Um, and the far out event is a free gravel ride through the foothills of the Rockies, starting in Boulder. Um, and it the point of it is to give people experience, the funness of a big event, um, without the cost, essentially, which is awesome. Um, so if you're in that area or near, you should go check those things out because it sounds really, really fun. Um, they also, so their Instagram is T G I F, which is great, and they have a cute little logo. Um, they're partnering with Ride for Hope uh to raise awareness and funds for mental health support and initiatives in Colorado communities, which is awesome because we know building community is the best way to combat isolation and loneliness. I think it's probably how a lot of people have gotten into the sport of cycling and stay in it. So good job to both of them for um bringing more awareness to that and making events for people to join in on and learn and meet new people. Um, and then The Ride for Hope is also hosting an event um and um that is in September, but it's more of like a bike packing um and you have to like reserve a spot. Um, and it sounds awesome, and that's in Ohio. Ohio. Yeah. So go follow both of them on Instagram. It seems like two awesome events that I've followed for a while, and let's support them as they support our community. Okay. Um, wow, we have a lot to get into. Do we? Well, there was a lot of bike racing that happened. Okay. We went for a hike um yesterday with Sarah's friend who's also in town. Yes. And that was really fun. Sarah is like full on pregnant, and I keep thinking that at some point I'm gonna be able to uh like you're gonna get tired and ready to turn around before me, and it just hasn't happened yet. Like I'm always like, all right, I'm good. And then you're just you just want to keep going. I know. It's probably I mean, I definitely like we did there's a whole drama that we don't need to go into, but like I don't love I don't like turning around on hikes. I know. No, it's not even like the physical side, especially a hike that I've the ones that I've never done before, sure, whatever. Um, but or that you've done before. The ones that I've done before, sure, whatever. But this one, I was like, oh, this is a cool opportunity to go like look at a trail that I have never been on because it's in the wilderness and I usually am on my bike, blah, blah, blah. I definitely could go back. But anyway, I just didn't want to turn, but it was the right call because there's no way I could have done that whole hike. Well, we also were like going downhill, like we started compromising. We started going down, like instead of a hike where you like go up and you submit, um, it was you know, you start and you're going down. So I was like, okay, we have to turn around and go uphill all of this stuff. Which I also was thinking. Yeah. The best my we've had so much like discussion about it back and forth, mostly joking and just like uh at my expense. Giving everyone shit about it, mostly Sarah shit about it. Because you are, it doesn't matter if you're eight months pregnant, seven months pregnant, you still are an athlete and you're still competitive. Not even it's not even competitive I truly just wanted to see the river. You just we were so far away from it. We were so far away. It's not even the river. I just wanted to see what was around the next bend and the next bend. I know. And this is why I had my own like realization. I was like, okay, I hate that kind of thing. Like, I don't like not knowing when we're gonna turn around. Oh, crazy. Um well, because that's never my decision, it's always like your decision, or I have to be like, okay, we're like, I'm ready to turn around and Sarah's gonna be bummed because she's not ready to turn around because she's never fucking ready to turn around. Um, so what I've decided in my own brain is that the hikes that I want to do with you are the ones that you hike up to a summit and you hike back down. Because then I'm like, okay, we get to a point, point eight to point, and then we and then we hike back up. It has nothing to do with the athlete thing. Yeah, it just is it can be challenging as somebody who's like, I'm fucking done hiking. Like, I'm ready to go eat some food or do something anything different. I know. Neither is right nor wrong. I just I feel like I want to explain my the things that I think about because they're really different. I know that. And and I was like, oh, we used we used Hannah's car, we used all that gas. Yeah, we load it up, we're already and this I do Ellen will a hundred percent relate to to you in this scenario because we've talked a lot about it with like my mentality of like long rides, which is why I actually don't like planning anything because what's motivating to me, sorry, I'm jumping around here. Let's hear it. It's so much more motivating if I don't know what's around the next turn and I just always want to see, or like what's up ahead, or like, oh, I just want to get to this one thing, and then I'll turn around and then I'll make it to that thing, and I'm like, well, I'm already here, I might as well go a little further. And that's how I train. And that makes so I mean it it does make sense. But I understand it's hard to hike with. It it is challenging. It's just hard to like you have your own thing going on in your brain, and like I don't know how to plan for it when it's like, oh, we're just gonna do an easy hike. And this is what I'm thinking, where I'm like, okay, Sarah's really pregnant, like maybe we'll actually be able to do an easy, like very quick, you know, or not quick, but just like a like a moderate hike, you know. I think in my head, the athlete side, I was like, oh, well, Norman and I hike four miles every morning in sailing hawks, and I do that in my Birkenstocks. So then in my head, I was like, well, we should do more than but I I also was considering the fact that like it wasn't just me, other people were not feeling great, and we have a dog who's old, and I don't want to like make her injured. So I'm not like an asshole. No, I know you're not an asshole. I just hate having to be like, okay, we are in fact ready to turn. One of these. I just needed you, like, I don't know. Apple's like, I wouldn't have taken Apple on that hike because I don't know. So like that was up to you. Yeah. Anyway, we made it. That's my god, we're really talking about that. The best thing was last night when we were brushing our teeth. You were like, Sarah finally let her guard down for half a second and was like, that uphill was harder than I was expecting. And I was like, Yes, see, I told you. And she goes, and that was your Hanukkah gift. And she just told me that. So anyway, we've had a lot of fun. Turns out, like, sister dynamics are just always present. But then also, we like got home and we were like bickering about something, but then you pulled a bean out of your bean hanging by a piece of cheese, and you're like, it's a bean swing, and then we just laughed and then right back to it. Yeah, I don't listen, being, yeah, you gotta know how to recover quickly and forget. We do recover so and we and we pause. We pause to like laugh really hard about something, and then we're like, and then that really annoyed me that you did this. And then Dylan brings it back up. And now you have again. So this is like the fifth fucking time we've talked about this stupid hike. And now I feel like we've beat the horse and it is in fact dead. It has died and come back and then did died again. He is risen. The horse is risen. The horse is risen. Oh my god. Okay, so I want to go back to a point that we talked about last podcast with Patagonia versus Patty Gonia. Oh, okay, yeah. I have sort of changed my tune thanks to a friend. Ooh, okay. Um and she is a paralegal, and she was like, I listen to the pod, I have some thoughts. Great. And she was like, Patty is in the absolute wrong. A hundred percent. And she was like, it's making me so mad because they could have like she feels like she is using um this whole lawsuit, which came about months and months and months ago. And the only reason it's an issue is because Patagonia makes clothing and their trademark is in the clothing sector, and Patty Gonia is selling clothing with Patty's name on it. Right. So, which is a bummer because, like, if you're a big enough influencer as Patty is, you do want to sell things to earn so it is a bummer for Patty, I will say that. But I feel like there was maybe a better way to go about everything. So then sh my friend was saying I she was like, I think she's just you leveraging the timing of like Pride. Prime month. Yeah, I saw that. And I think it's kind of a bummer and it's a bad look. It's tough because I think a lot like a lot of people are really just seeing the like Instagram posts and not like looking or thinking critically or looking beyond that is the problem with and that's social media, and their social media and their society. Yeah, that's kind of where I mean yeah, that's where I had also kind of landed on things. Yeah, it's a bummer. And it just it's not a good look for anyone, and it's a it yeah. I do kind of wonder like at a certain way. Like same team, same team. Does she have like over a million followers? I have no idea. These like influencers have just gotten so big that like you start having to think like a brand and a huge company, because like sometimes they are that, like they have employees and they're making a lot of money, and and then I think it just always inherently takes what they've done and makes it a shittier version because like it turns into a business and it's less authentic, and then you're like, Oh, but then I'm also like, oh, these influence, like, do you have to have is it like that same is it that same thing where like at a certain point with like enough fame and power and wealth, like you end up just kind of being the same version of all like the same person because like it just whittles you down the higher up you get anyway. Yeah, it'll be interesting to see what just how influencer culture changes and yeah, that's why this is a yesteryear was such an interesting. I can't, I'm so I'm excited for you to read it. I have like one more chapter in Demon Copperhead, and it's I really have had to put it down because it's so sad. Yeah, and that's fair. Um if you need a nice little palette club, well, I actually don't know if you'd like it, but Anne Patchett, um, she has a new book that just came out, Whistler. Yeah, and that one, I just read that and it was it's like she's I saw somebody say this and I was like, this is perfect, that she's the queen of like soft storytelling. And I was like, yep, that's exactly it. Um and it that fits the fits fits her mold really well. It great. They're like people at their I might do a palette cleanser. I also kind of want to read the Lena Dunham book too. Oh, you should, that's a and you should listen to that one. Oh, really? Yeah, definitely. Okay, yeah. I'm just into reading. Just into reading. And I love that for you. It's very exciting. I go through phases. Um wait, before we get super into it, I have um our PCT OnlyFans hiker um update. Oh, as of this morning. Wow, you said PCT OnlyFans, my brain glitched because we were making fun of mom and dad for saying fans only in chat CBD. And I thought it was that. No, it's not. It's not that. Okay. Um yeah, as of this morning, she is back on the trail. All right, go girl. She was wearing this like hair differently though. She was wearing this like um like muted green juicy couture jumpsuit that's like definitely just like cotton. Um and she's like has like spikes on her on her shoes, and she's like hiking, like the whole from her knee down is just like soggy wet from her like 15-mile day. But she's back on the trail, she's doing it. So I wonder what kind of hiking mentality she has. Um, well, she's feeling pretty good after her um lake water source mishap, and she's ready to submit more mountains. I love that she's ready to submit. Anyway. Go, what's her name? Uh, I think it's Cameron with a K. Go Cameron with a K. Okay, I have one funny story from our birthing. Did I tell you about the birth class that we took? Don't worry, people. You don't have to fast forward. It's not gonna be another truffle pig situation. Which why would you fast forward? That was the best. I did get a lot of funny texts. Did you?

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Um, no, okay, so Dylan and I took our first birthing class, which was honestly, Dylan and I are just like really into learning about because we don't know anything. We didn't ask any of our friends a single question when they had kids. Why would you? Anyway, so one of the one of the things that the teacher had us do to display how strong contractions need to be to squeeze a baby out. It was kind of an interesting demonstration. But she used like deflated balloons that she had put ping pong balls into, and then we had to blow the balloon up, and then you tip it so like the ping pong ball is at the opening of the balloon upside down, and it holds the air in. So you have this really inflated balloon with a ping pong ball at the bottom, nothing's tied off. And you know how I feel about balloons. I hate balloons. I was just gonna say I fucking hate balloons. I also hate balloons. I they can pop. I just I plug my ears anytime I see one. Oh, you would have also been so I was in like I wasn't I have not really been that nervous about any part of like birth. What we were talking about in the birth class didn't phase me. The balloons fully distracted. I was in like a cold sweat because then she was like, we had to like squeeze the balloon to shoot the ping pong ball out until it immediately was like it shot the balloon, shot across the room, the ping pong ball did. And I was standing, I also have the pointiest nails right now, and I was like little spears, but I also like my ear, I was my ears were getting hot and ringing, and I felt like I was gonna pass out just because of the balloon sounds, and so I like couldn't plug my ears, so I used my claws as an excuse for Dylan to take my balloon and do it too. Oh, I'm sorry, I've got talons, I can't. I know I was like, you're gonna pop and then I sat there, a full adult in this class with my ears plugged. You're gonna do really well with a baby yelling, yelling, crying. Um, your nailing is fine. I as long as they're not like a balloon popping. Um, yesterday when you were like typing something at the grocery store, I was like, your little nail looks like a parakeet bean. It is so sharp. And for everyone concerned for my pointy ass nails with a child, this is my last fun pointy set that I got. You're gonna impale your baby. I know, honestly, I I love. And I was like, damn, this is this is not good for baby holdings. This is a hazard. Can barely pick my nose. Can't even I could pop a balloon. Yeah. Anyway, that was my one. What else did you learn in birthing class? Oh, a lot. Yeah. Like a lot. Does any of it freak you out? No. None of it. No, I'm true. Like, yes. The thing that freaks me out is just like the I just want to have a healthy baby. Yeah. Like that the like scary, like, what if like this horrible thing happens freaks me out. But like I am excited to like experience like what it feels like and that pain and surrendering and the mental. She talked a lot about like the mental space and like having to let go and what can disrupt labor and like emotional things that disrupt labor. Like what? Oh, I mean, well, she told a really sad story about like a woman who was like laboring and her dad had passed away, it was in COVID, and and she like thought about him in the middle of her labor and it like paused her labor, like her contraction stopped. What she had this like meltdown and then and then it started back up. So it wasn't a it wasn't terrible, but it did cause her to stay in labor for three extra hours. But like if you have family stress, don't look at me. No, I know. I'm just thinking about family stress. Yeah. Which everyone loves it. I mean, nobody else is like your plan is to not have any family in there, right? Yeah, yeah. But like anyway, we learned a lot. We don't necessarily need to talk about it. I mean, I I actually am shocked. We haven't talked about it yet, but I guess you were saving it for the podcast. Good for you. You usually don't do that. Oh, I was curious. She did bring up hypnobirthing, and I was like, whoa, I must Google that. What is like you're hypnotized for it? That's what I want. Um, yeah, I don't really want to talk about like what my birth plan is because I don't want people telling me what to do and what not to do. Yeah. That's good. I don't think you should mainly what I don't want. Do you have a birth plan though? I'm it's becoming a lot clearer to me what I want. Cool. Yeah. What kind of food do you want afterward? I don't know. I feel like I've been able to eat most things now. You want like a drink? You want an old fashioned or something? I don't, you know, the alcohol thing is really I don't care. Yeah. That's about that. Coffee? I you know what? I just want the option. I just don't like it's like in school, I don't like being told that I can and can't do stuff. Yeah. Um well you're still doing it, so well, not coffee or alcohol, no. But riding your bike. Yeah. And hiking too far. Oh my god, it wasn't too far. It was too far for me. And Apple. Oh my god. No, we were fine. Okay, I did see this this post, and I just was I thought it would be an interesting topic. I don't know if it's like okay, you know how we like talked about the satisfy, like that the running or whatever. Oh my god. Yeah, that like stupid yeah uh punk not punk thing that they did in the death. Anyway, really contrived, really contrived, um, which is the opposite of punk. Exactly. But truly, like the antithesis. I saw this girl had a post that was like, Can we make running uncool again? And I was like, God, that's such a good I mean it's such a good point. I mean, I have two thoughts about it because like it's sort of like gravel a little bit, where like it was this like thing that you just did and it was authentic and gritty and there was not a lot of like products or whatever. Um, but there also were a lot fewer people who did it, um, which is fine, but it's also cool to see like more and more people get into it. But it's getting really bummer is tacky and the bummer is the cap capitalization, yeah. Um that sounded like the wrong word. No, it makes me think of Jeff, who is like so on the other side of like things get like things getting cool, you know? Yeah. He just doesn't give a fuck about any of it, doesn't ever wear the cool stuff, um, and and always looks like the nerdiest person, but actually enjoys the things. And so for Grat, like he is looking for a new bike and he's like, Well, I'm not gonna get a gravel bike, I'll just get a hardtail or a yeah, is that what I don't know, it's some other kind of bike because he was like, if I look for something that's marketed as a gravel bike, it's gonna be way more expensive. If I find it this other, I maybe a hardtail or some other kind of bike that he's like, it'll do the same thing. He's not racing or anything, he just like wants to ride on like dirt roads around where we live because there are a bunch of them. Yeah. And uh he was like, I'm just gonna look for because they're they're no longer like uh the posh thing to get. Hardtail. Yeah, exactly. He's like, then I can spend way less and still be able to do the same thing. I understand the point. I don't think he'll have to spend way less. Like, there's definitely inexpensive gravel bikes out there, especially like the OG like cyclocross bikes are basically. That's what he was talking about. He was talking about getting a cyclocross bike. Oh, that's what it was. Yep. He was like, I'm looking for a cyclocross bike because that's no longer like yeah, um, as hidden with it as gravel bike. Sorry, R.I.P. Cyclocross, such a bummer. Yeah, totally. I agree with that. Yep. But same, it feels like that's where you're getting at with this thing of like making running uncool again. Yeah, I just think, well, I think it's we've reached a point where like I'm all for more people. I'm similar to TGIF and Ride for Hope. We want more people to get into it because it's awesome. Like it's great. I like I'm not one of these like crusty, like uh the ultra scene is super like crusty old guys that are like, oh, this person's doing it wrong and they're putting it on the internet. Like, there's like this weird like troll guarding of the like super underground, so it doesn't become a a running pump track in the middle of the desert with a bunch of influencers. So like fair, like so commoditize commoditize commoditize. Yeah. Yeah. That one's actually with that one. That's right. Uh but I also like I think there's also this peak where like then it gets so but big and there's so many products with running or gravel or whatever is the newest thing, that then you think that you have to have all of those things to get into the sport or do it or try it or feel included in it. And that's a bummer. Well, it's weird because I think at a certain like there are people, there are a couple camps of people. There's the people who like either can't afford or aren't interested in like getting all the coolest, nicest stuff, and so they may not get into it, but then there's this whole other group of people that like see that it's like hip and want all the nicest cool because they want something to research and something to buy and like and something to motivate. We've talked about that. Like, you know, the people who like a product to motivate for the thing, which is totally valid. Yeah. So it's there are both sides, like I think it's just like pluses and minuses, but yeah, I really truly I think what we're all saying is like we hate social media. Yeah, and fad are weird, yeah. Yeah, because then what ends up happening is then there's just like a bunch of waste. I think the exclusivity as well. Like, yeah, I just it's uh cycling. Well, I'm gonna say cycling and that and the thing with running, like the thing that is irky about these like like nicer brands. Well, yes, the products are getting like nicer and nicer, and there's a lot more technology, so the shoes are more comfortable, the clothing's more comfortable. I get it, but also running is supposed to be the simple thing, like you can just buy the shoes and run in, you know, whatever. Like you can just you don't even have to have the shoes. Read born to run. That's an old book. There you go. But like I think that that's what's hard for me because I'm like, ah, it just is they're expensive sports. Yeah. Well, especially cycling, and people think that you're super expensive. I couldn't most cyclists who are sponsored cyclists probably couldn't afford the sport if they weren't sponsored. I mean, skiing is the same way too. Skiing is crazy expensive because you also have to pay to do it. Exactly. You have to buy a lift ticket. Yeah, at least with like riding and running, you can just go out and do it. But with skiing, I mean, you have like such a dork skipper all of the gear, and then you also have to like pay a ton of money to sit on a chair and drink a Colorado mule. No, a bulldog, Colorado Bulldog. Yeah, that's it. It's the one with cream and coke, and so good. It's literally the only reason I go. Me too. Skiing is a luxury for me. I'm actually like weirdly not competitive with skiing. You are you're really fun to ski with. You are the most fun person to ski with. Truly. Especially after one Colorado Bulldog. Yeah. Very fun. Um, okay, well, that's interesting. Yeah. So I I kind of agree. Make running and gravel uncool again. Yeah. I think we're past it. I know. Because then brands will be like, okay, how do we make it uncool? Uh let's see. If we can pump track in the desert, only LA influencers cut holes in their shirts. Got it. Yeah, but then they're just gonna like be like, okay, well, if we design this thing to like look a little dorkier, but then it'll actually It's actually gonna be $400. Yeah. And the influencer or the influencers are all gonna wear it, and then it's gonna be cool. Well, but isn't there that like thing with museum curation? Like if the piece of art doesn't sell, you raise the price. That's so crazy, but yeah, it's weird. I sort of feel like that sometimes with wine. Um hundred percent. Like not not all of our definitely not. Most of our clientele is not that way, but we there are definitely some people that come in, often not uh I know exactly where they're from. They are tourists from an or a neighboring hoity toity town. Uh yeah, sometimes. Um and they are they won't buy a bottle of wine unless it's more than fifty bucks. Crazy. I kind of see that. I know nothing about wine, so I if I were like going to a nice dinner and I wanted to show up with a nice gift, I would just buy a more expensive bottle. And that's fair, like, especially at our shop because we're not Which is stupid because I actually like the like $10 to $15 bottles. No, no, that's too low. Uh there is a there is a like because at a certain price point, um, you don't know what's happening with the production. Like it has to cost money because like if you're if they're using GMO grapes. Well, yeah, because I mean it's all really about farming. And so if they're not like like for a Pinot Noir, that's always the one that like we I feel like we never have one that's less. I literally don't even know if that's white or red. It's red. Uh Noir? Yeah. Oh yeah. Like Pinot Grigio or Pinot Gris, those are white. But a Pinot. Is a Pinot Grigio different than a Pinot Gris? Yes. I'm out. Um anyway, for a Pinot Noir, like those are really sensitive grapes. And so if you find one that's like less than $35, I mean, sometimes you can find like a good one that's less than $35, but typically they're pricier because it's a sensitive grape, and so they have to be hand harvested because somebody has to feel that it's actually ripe and ready. Whereas like with machines that are just like pulling them off then and then they add a bunch of shit. So anyway, there are certain grapes and certain types of wine. So what so for people listening and myself, when I can drink again, what's what's the price point? What's the lowest price point for like a bottle of wine that doesn't have shitty things added to it? I mean, I feel like at like it's a really hard sentence for me. Yeah, for sort of I got you. Um at our shop, like we really pay attention, we bring stuff in from like small producers and like who pay attention to farming and you know, try and fall in the like organic, biodynamic, dry farmed, blah blah blah. Um but like you can find a good I'm a good one for like 18 to 28 bucks. Isn't that what I said? You said 10 to 15. 10, not a chance. We've never had a $10 bottle of wine because they're adding weird shit. Okay. And in the US, they do whatever the fuck they want. Um but if you're in a different country, if you're in Italy or France, then you can get wine for super cheap and it's really good. Um, but not here. Anyway, love that. Blah blah blah. Wine. Blah blah blah. Wine running spikes. We had our uh anniversary party at the shop. That was fun. That was really fun. I know. That was shop turn two. Shop turn two. You had little crackers shaped like hands and wine glasses. Yeah, and the most lot of good cheese. So much good food. Yeah, it's the house. If you're ever in the area, it doesn't even matter if you're enjoying a Cortez Dolores, you should always go to the butthouse. The most affordable, like truly, shout out. Yeah, it's so good. That's where we did our uh it's the most affordable, really nice food. I mean, it's it's still expensive, but it's really good food. It's our favorite restaurant in this area. Um, I was thinking about like when we first opened the shop, one of our friends was telling us that because she owns, co-owns a small business, totally different type of business, not so much brick and mortar, blah, blah, blah. But she was like, um, it took two years before I felt solid and like I knew kind of what I was doing. And I remember hearing that and being like, yeah, right, two years. And on the dot. On the dot, it in the last month, cool. I've started feeling like, oh, I actually enjoy this. Oh, good. That's that is a big swing. It is, I mean it's really covered. Yeah, for sure. And it's like, but I'm finally starting to like look at the big picture and be like, okay, we have all of these things in place, and now I have a little bit of brain space to like add more in, to do more stuff, and it's starting to feel like way more rewarding. Yeah, and that's the cool part of owning your own business, is like when you can get to the point where like all the scary, annoying stuff you can deal with, and then you actually have space for creativity. Definitely. And I finally feel like I'm like being a little bit more creative. Like, I'm starting to see like the buds of the fruits of our labors starting to like show up, and that feels really cool. And having that to your it was so nice having you guys there to see like how many people in the community came out. I mean, I already like have seen it, but yeah, it was cool to see everyone gather specifically for the purpose of celebrating the shop. Yeah, it was really fun. That was that was cool. So I feel really good about and whenever I need to get my dose of lesbians, that's where I go. Amakus is the home of I I mean, all of my friends, I feel like that was great, especially at the shop. Like we have that's I would say 70% of the shoulders. I don't know, but I knew who were there. Yeah. And and they're and I love it so much. It's a fun energy. So yay, hand in hand turn two. Yeah, thanks for feeding me, for feeding the masses. Yeah, that was great. And maybe people came out to celebrate us, but maybe people just came out to eat the boathouse. And honestly, I don't care. My favorite was the like focaccia bread with the oil, and then you put the tomato. Uh-huh. Yeah. The pan contamate. Pan contamate. So good. Okay, what else do you have? What kind of bike stuff? Congrats to congrats, grads. Um, okay, well, the giro wrapped up, the giarditalia. Okay. Which uh sorry. It's not hero. Not the men's. The men's already finished. Oh. Um, it's one of the grand tours. There's three. There's the Vuelta in Spain, the Vuelta España, uh, the Giro d'Italia, and then the Tour de France. Oh. So are they those are like multiple week or multiple day stage races that like there's a specific type of athlete that can win those. Usually they're good climbers, but they can also they're I mean, they're amazing bike racers, but you have to be a good climber to win those things. And um a Durango kid. Oh, yeah, Sep. Yeah. Uh so yeah, I guess we could talk. I guess we could talk about the men's because you know, there's a Durango guy. Quick, you know. Uh yeah, so his teammate, Jonas Vingigo or Vingiguard. Oh, Vingago. Oh, it's I don't. You know what? I'm gonna get corrected either way. It's like me saying any non-American's name. Sure. There's like so many anyway, I hear it pronounced differently everywhere. Um Van Gogh. Jonas. Jonas Van Gogh. Jonas and the whale. Um, he won. And I think and then Sepp won a stage. And Sepp has won the Vuelta, but he's also won a stage, he's won stages at the Vuelta, the Tour, and the Giro now. And that's really he's an he's a part of a very elite club. Wow. Of Americans specifically. I think there's been one other American who's ever done it, but also just athletes who have won stage, because it's I mean, it's really hard to do that. So that's a good deal. And like for him, because he's like known as a super domestique. So he really, even on a day where he's he was probably thinking, like, well, I could win this stage or try, that's not to say his team job let him. So he had to ask Jonas, like, hey, what do you think? And Jonas was like, please go in. Oh, sweet. Yeah, but he already had the win anyway, blah, blah, blah. So men, la la la. Okay, let's get to the women. Go sep, good job. We're proud of you. Um, that was happening when that was wrapping up when we were at Unbound. Got it. And then yesterday the women finished the Jiro, which was riddled with drama. So let's get into it. It is there's something about like summertime and like reality TV. Drummond. Drumma mama. Wait, real quick. You've never seen Love Island, right? No, I really can't. Hate it. Hate it. In fact, I don't think I can watch it. I watched the first two episodes and was like, they're just the most extended, disgusting makeout scenes. You just see so many tongues, and they all are just like just spit is swapped constantly. Yuck. It's I'm out. Unbelievable. I truly I don't know how they like they'll just they'll like bring up a new bombshell in who like nobody has talked to or seen and still have it, and then they just make out with every single person. It's the it's like it's so bizarre. Um weird social experiment. I'm not sure I can I can hang. It's kind of grossing me out. Honestly, it doesn't matter. I uh I fast forward through the because they're long. Gross. And it's a oh, we're making out, we're just going straight in with the tongue. Who makes out who who makes out like that? For the very first time, I think it's it's just they go in like this. Tongue out. Yeah. It's wild. Oh I'm a little curious. No, sorry, you would be No, I'm I'm out. You'd be so good. I don't even want to hear about it. I know. Um okay, drama with the drama with the women. So early stage. Like, I don't don't ask me how many stages this thing was. I don't know. Um, one of the early days. Uh sorry. That's a that's a thing from Love Island. Oh my god. Like at the beginning, they're always they always go, well, it's early days, you know. Oh my god, really? Yes. It's a very specific to Love Island. That's really funny. Days Days in the kitchen. Anyway, so it's early days of the for the women. Um so Lorraine Weebus, who's a sprinter for SD works, a specialized team. Okay, she wins like one of the first sprints or one of the early days. And um and then she gets disqualified. Why? What'd she do? She did nothing. The UCI, uh the UCI is so I can't I can't with the UCI. They disqualified her because her bike was 20 grams under the minimum weight limit. So it was too light of a bike to be UCI legal, which I think was because she swapped from a two-by chain ring, so two chain rings in the front, to one by, which makes her bike lighter, which was probably a decision made with her and her mechanics, and blah blah blah. One of these days we should do a techie talkie on chains and stuff. Okay. Not today. Not today. So anyway, she gets disqualified from the entire race. Whoa. So the team is uh They couldn't just like weigh shit beforehand and say, Oh, that's too light. Well, I don't I don't know the ins and outs. I yeah. Okay. I know that like when you do these races, you do have to like, it's so tedious. Like you check in all of your equipment, but like why the UCI didn't tell them. I just picture them doing like but maybe they made the swap afterwards and then like another team noticed it. I don't know. I just picture like weigh-ins from like boxing or like UFC or whatever, where they're like standing there with their their bikes up, they've got like bikes like behind hind wheel, just like staring at each other, yeah-dogging everyone. Yeah, this bike got DQ'd. Uh-oh. Which is such a bummer. So, like, yeah, you know, she's like peeking for this race, and like there's a lot of points that she was gonna win in these sprints. So that like, I mean, she's like the most winning, winningest sprinter. Anyway, so that was dramatic. Drama. Um, and then and then you saw some uh an Italian woman take the lead. Um, but like all the sprinting and flatter stages are usually like first, so you don't just have like the climber like GC contenders in the jersey the whole time. Um you got the you know, the more muscly people winning the sprints and stuff. So it was cool that was like an Italian woman um in the leading the pink so the Giro is pink. So each of these grand tours have different colors for men and women? Uh no, they're all the same. So like uh you know how like in the tour, yeah, if you're winning, you have if you're winning the whole thing, you're in the yellow. Yeah. So if you're winning the whole thing for the Vuelta, you're in red. Okay. If you're winning the whole thing for the Giro, you're in pink. Hot pink. It's like rosy pink. It's kind of cute. I feel like a hot pink would be really fun. Hot pink would be fun. Yeah. Anyway, okay, so somebody's in pink. Uh so yeah, it's the battle for the pink jersey. Cool. And then the climber is in the blue, I think. But the I think the tour has the best color. Like the yellow and then the polka dots. Polka dots and the stripes. Are there stripes? Stripes are world world champs. Okay. That's like there's a green one, right? There's a green, which is Sprinter. Sprinter. It's like polka dots, green, and yellow. And then white is the young rider jersey. Ghost. The ghost. Um anyway. Blah blah blah. So then uh okay, this was actually so funny because I asked, I like just Googled, like, tell me the like synopsis of the Jiro. And I think what AI, like, you know, it's so annoying. Like, Google now pulls AI. Yeah. But I think it was pulling one of the bullet points for the GC from YouTube, a YouTube video. So the names, I have to read you the names that it pulled. So Anna Vanderbragen, she's uh also um an SD writer, SD works. Uh-huh. She is Anna Vanderon. Close, close. And then Demi Vollering is Dami Vonering. And then Antonia Nidermeyer. Um, and then that pulled it as Antonio Nima. And it's so close. And that's why we love AI. Wow. And really good. And I was like, oh, all this information could be absolutely wrong. So yeah, so maybe we don't use that. No, it was really funny though. Um, and that was my point on the GC. Wait, no. So what happened was drama. Anna van der Bragen. So here's the drama. Okay. Anna, Anna, way back in the day, she was like this, not like what, three years ago, four years ago. She was like an amazing writer, like uh greatest of all time, like in the moment, like amazing talent, blah, blah, blah. Um, she retires and then becomes the DS, the director sportif of SD Works, the team that she retired from. And then Demi, also the like new Anna, kind of comes in and she's racing for SD Works. And Demi is also coached by Anna and their friends. Okay. So then there was all this drama a few years ago. Sh that was when like Demi was winning the tour and crashed, and then none of her teammates waited for her, and then she lost the yellow jersey. It was like a big upset in for the SD Works team. Okay. Um, and you know, I'm probably leaving a lot of details out that are like nuanced, whatever, blah blah blah. So then Anna, um, also Anna used to coach G, and she was at Traka one year. Okay. As a coach, which was really fun to have like Anna like cheering for us in the aid stations, which was kind of a personal dream come true. So just as a personal anecdote for that. Great, love that. So then she announces, oh, guess what? I'm actually gonna come back to bike racing. Okay. And which was really exciting to like the Anna. Anna, Demi, and Pauline showdown, the three of them, like greatest bike race, modern bike racers in the women's Peloton. Sick. So Anna comes back, she's on SD works. Demi has left that team. Okay. She joins FDJ, this French team that she's had a lot of success with over the last few years. Um, so they're now competing, they're rivals. Okay. But I mean, think about like Anna has coached Dem, like she knows this athlete, like she knows this person. I think there was probably some drama there because how could there not be? Um so Anna gets the pink jersey, um, which is also called the mag Rosa, whatever. Blah blah blah. Um, she's in the pink until the last fucking day, and then Demi Well, pause. Okay. The Queen stage, which we've been over, gets shortened because there's an avalanche at the top. And so the writers are kind of robbed of like, especially like the pure climbers. Like, it was a really exciting stage. They they're like finishing on dirt, um, and they just kind of like cut it off. And I think there was like a miscommunication, like some of the writers didn't know when the finish line was. So, like, Demi won that stage, but it's all time, it's not placement. So she has to get a certain amount of time ahead of Anna to gain the the pink jersey. Um, and going into the very so that happens. The avalanche like shortens the stage, and then another bummer, thanks again to broadcasting women's races, we don't get to see the entire final stage of the Jiro Stupid for the women. We did for the men who literally it's it was just like a tootle around the park and they like drink champagne. Okay, but don't worry, they televise that whole stage. And then the women Anna has a minute on demi. She has to beat Anna by one minute. Okay, which is a lot, which is a lot, okay. And she does. Oh no. And she gets the big jersey by the skin of her little teeth. Whoa. Skin of her little suit. Skin of that little suit. And she w and when they got in a fight. No. Well, and then they made out with just tongues. And then she made out with just tongues. Wow. And that's where my cap is. Drama. I mean, there was some like poor Anna like is having to get interviewed after, and they're like, so demi beat you. Like, what are you thinking? And I mean, there's all the like bummed. Yeah, she's bummed. She was like, I did everything I can. She also was in a situation where like Demi didn't have to work in the group. So Anna was doing a lot more work, and then when Demi attacked because of teammates and rogue, blah blah blah. Yeah. So it was exciting, and so glad that we didn't get to see the whole stage. Thanks, everyone. Yeah, that's really shitty. It really just brings me so much rage, yeah, all the time. So I'm getting really sick of complaining it about it sitting in this stupid orange chair. I'm gonna go do something about it. Yeah. I mean, but keep it keep complaining about it. Yeah, I will. Okay, so blah, blah, blah. Okay. Also, another exciting thing in uh uh bike riding and racing, very different, um, is Lael departed yesterday. Oh, yeah. For she did her own grand depart for her round the world uh record challenge. I saw a clip, sorry. Yes, uh that late and I I loved this so much about somebody was asking her about suffering. Did you see that? Yeah, it was a uh the specialized podcast. I thought that was so incredible. So good. Somebody asked her about suffering, and she was like, What we're doing is not suffering, we are choosing to be out here. There is so much suffering that actually happens in the world that is not a choice, that is it doesn't end and it doesn't end. What I am doing is a choice, yeah, and it's not suffering, and I want to be out there. Yep and I love the Lail is special. Lael's awesome, yeah. Um, if I I'm very lucky to like get to call Lael and Rue friends, yeah. Um, and have hung out with them and run into them in the mountains out here and you know, hung out with them in Tucson. And Lael is, I mean, she is an incredible athlete, yes, and person. And the fact that she does the things that she I mean, she really like before I got into the sport, I remember uh I was working full-time as a graphic designer, and then I watched one of the documentaries that she did uh years ago, I think from like the AZT, and I was like, whoa, this this chick is crazy, uh, and a total badass. Yeah. Um, and she really is. Yeah. And she's really thoughtful. Yeah, I saw that and I was like, oh, that is exactly how I feel. And a yeah, good. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And sure, it's hard, you know. Like you can it also is is really motivating for her because she's like, I'm choosing to be out, like this is a choice all the time. I think about that with literally every single thing I do in my life where I'm like, this relationship I'm in, it's a choice. I'm choosing it every day. The shop that I have, that was a choice. Sometimes I hate that choice, and sometimes I don't. You know, like but uh when I come back, it's like I still think it's to be here. Yes. And I think that's what bothers me about people that go about life feeling like the world owes them something or that they have been done dirty. Um I I would guess I'm talking more in like professional sport because I'm like, you're choosing these things, like you have a choice to leave the situation. Like a lot of you've chosen a career that like doesn't always pan out. Yeah, totally. You know, like if you wanted something more stable, you should have been a dentist. Do something else. Yeah, there's a lot of options, yeah. These it's all choices, they're all choices, and what a beautiful privilege to have a choice. Well, and it changes, I feel like for me, it changes my perspective on things, yeah, for sure. Um, yeah. I could go into that. So Layelle, yes. If you I I really want to listen to that full podcast, but that clip was great. So good. Um okay, so she started yesterday. So it's like Around the World Challenge, and she did it last year. If you remember, you're like, why is she doing it again? It's not to beat her own record, um, because she set the record for women, but she's going after the overall record. Yeah. And it I know Layle at this point. I've ridden with her a lot. We've talked a lot about our own racing and our own challenges and our own downfalls. I've I've never seen someone so she was so disappointed a few years ago when I was riding with her and training with her. Um, because she had she hadn't she had fallen short of her goal, which was again to beat the overall record on these things. And it really bugs her. It like really she is she is a crazy athlete, and that's what's really compelling. I mean, she How far off was she? Uh I'll get to that. Okay. So the men well, I'll just tell you now. The men's record is 78 days, 14 hours, and 40 minutes, set in s 2017. Um, and then the women's is 108 days 12 hours and 12 minutes. And she set that. Yes. Okay. So she has to cut off a lot of days. This says she said it in 2024, but that I feel like she did it last year. So it seems crazy to do it back to back years. I imagine it was probably 2024. No, I think I don't know. No, I think it was 2024. Okay. Sorry, I should say Mark Beaumont uh is the men's record. When did he set that? 2017. Okay. So also that's a lot of days to Yeah. It was 78 versus 18. Whoof. That's a lot of days. But what I was talking to them about is like, I don't think she was even going that so I I did pull up some, and this now I'm like a little bit nervous about I didn't do like hours of research for this, so you're looking at the AI overview. Is that what you're saying? A little bit, yeah. Uh oh. Um, but there a lot of it is not necessarily about like just riding faster. In fact, I think she like pretty much went at the like fastest you could do each day. Like it's over 200 miles a day. Wow. And yeah, for that many days. Does she take any rest days? No, I doubt it. Knowing Lael, no. No. How do you like also Lael's never really had a coach? I did get her connected with my nutritionist because I'm like, I'm like, all right, knowing knowing her and and Rue. So let's so little things. There's so many pieces to this. Like the it is, it is a it's more of a logistics challenge, I think. And then also Rue, her wife, is her photographer. Like, she's a professional photographer, videographer, amazingly talented. Like the two of them are really That's a power couple. Oh, yeah. Fuck Jay-Z and Beyonce. That's the power couple. It's crazy. Yeah, it's really wild. So a lot of it is like budget constraints. So like the guy that set this record, I th they've said that he's had a budget of a million dollars, and he did that, and he used that budget for it. Um, and that goes to like airfare, uh, licensed licensure, uh, rentals, all the things paying a staff for that time. Right. We've talked about this a little bit. Yeah. So the total, but then also how you set the route. So there's like all these specific things because it's what's her full record. Do you know what she got? She got REI to come on, which is great. And then she has all of her bike sponsors, but I think REI is footing a big part of the bill. I don't think it's close as close to this guy's budget, but I think it's it's a significant improvement from last time. Also, advantageous that she has done it before and kind of knows what they're in for. And like, I think they're improving on a lot of. I doubt this dude rode with as many people. Like Leo publishes like where she'll be, and you can go ride with her. But think about the stress of that. Like that, to me, that would be I'm too people pleasy. Because I was asking her about that. I was like, so what if you're riding with this group of people and someone like flats and you're like, okay, well that's gonna like you're in the middle of the night, and you can't stop. No, no, you can't stop. No, but I'm like, Do you think about that? And she's like, Sometimes I do stop if I like really need the company, and like but it's just I don't know, but I don't I don't think she stops, no. But like someone someone had like a little bit of an accident, like a crash, and like they had to stop because like they ended up having to go to the hospital. She's just the force gump of of bike riding a hundred percent. It's pretty cool in so many ways. So the total journey distance. So they both complete the or they yeah, you complete the same, so it's not like you go further, which is anyway, you the entire trip, including all the segments on ferries and planes, must exceed the length of the Earth's equator 40,075 kilometers or 24,901 miles. So like the whole trip has to be more than that, including sorry, I'm 24,900. 24,901. That's how many miles she's doing? Yes. But did you hear all segments, including ferries and planes? Oh, okay. Yeah, got it. Okay, distance ridden, you must actively cycle a minimum of 18,000 miles. 18,000 miles. Yes. So unidirectional travel. The ride must be continuous in one overall direction, um, either east to west or west to east. Backtracking to add distance does not count, and you generally cannot veer more than five degrees off your chosen course. Okay. And then uh anti antipodal points. So your route must pass through at least two of the anti am I saying that word correctly? I don't know. Uh-oh. I don't know what it means. Uh so like there's there's two locations at exact opposite of each other through the Earth's center. So like Madrid, Spain, and Wellington, New Zealand, for example. So you have to pass through at least two of those points. Okay. Which ones is she going through? I don't know. Okay. Oh gosh, we have so much to follow. And then the ride must begin and end at the exact same location. So they picked Chicago. Um, so I know that. So you can track her little dot. Yeah. And then it's also there's gonna be a documentary. Or there's a podcast too, right? Oh, it'd be fun to try to meet up with her. I wonder if it'll so I did. Uh Rue reminded me of this at the Rava Team Camp. She was like, Remember when we were sitting at Team Camp last year in California, and you said, because I was I was talking to them about her. Okay, it wasn't 24, because last year, um, so I was we were talking about it, and they were like already telling us that they were gonna go for the overall. And I was like, damn, okay, I we were just talking about the crew component, and I was like, you need someone like handing bottles up, like like there's so many little ways that you can, and I was like, God, I would love to crew for you guys. And I was like, if I'm not pregnant, I will crew for you. And then Rue reminded me of that, and I was like, damn it! Duh. Failed. But maybe I could. Okay, well, so this is gonna be a long-standing thing that we get to track for the next, you know, couple months, few months. Um, maybe Lily can add the like where to find all the information and stuff, because I think this is gonna be really cool. Oh, here we go. Sorry, two more things. Start and finish, same place. Transportation over water to cross oceans, you may use scheduled public transportation like planes or ferries. Private or chartered flights and boats are not permitted. Cool. Yeah, that makes sense. Yep. And the clock is continuous and doesn't stop. Great. That and I told them I was like, that is the piece. I'm already like, I you think I'm well, you've traveled with me, but I like if I were also racing, like I'm not even racing and I have that. Your plane is delayed. Yeah. Ugh. That sounds terrible. That part sounds actually like the worst. So stressful and awkward. But I mean, what they've so they like set their own route, but like, you know, Rue and Lael have had to figure out, you know, I mean, yeah, how to travel around the world via bike and follow her and film it. She's doing cool things. Yeah, it's amazing. So we support that. Yeah, and that's what really matters. That they have our endorsement. Um, what else do you have? Um, just a fun little note that like the first two downhill world cups, uh, American men have both won, which is, and one was a kid from Durango. American boy dolls. American boy dolls. Those bitty babies be winning. Oh, it's cool. It's cool, like, especially like downhill, like, yeah, it's cool for American writers to win the first two World Cups. I love that. Um, I watched a documentary um that I really enjoyed.

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On Do you know who Lauren Michaels is? No. Uh he's like the creator of SNL since like 1975. Sound familiar, yes. And I love SNL, always have like love following all of you really watched it. Oh, what? I know that is so crazy to me. Like, they are like my those are the celebrities that I'm like, oh, all the SNL cast members over the years. I just so anything SNL I'm I'm always in. But this was so interesting. One of my favorite takeaways from it, so Lauren has like, like, he's this incredible, bizarre character that everyone who's ever been on SNL, either as a cast member, has has worked with. Like he is, he's so involved and has been in every single show since like I mean there was a little gap, I guess, in in the beginning, but um, and he's such a character, like he has um, he has a real presence, but uh and like a real way that like the way that he speaks is really interesting. Oh, interesting. And one of the key things I um Dr. Evil and Austin Powers, the way that he talks is based off of Lauren Michaels. No way, and I had like, and now it's the only thing I can hear. Like they showed, and it was this it was probably like a 10-second, not even that, maybe like a three-second clip from the documentary, and then it's all I could focus on was how he was talking, and I was like, oh, that makes sense, and it was Mike Myers, you know, who was an SNL cast member, of course, you know, and so uh, but every one of like all of these cast members have like this exact way that they can talk exactly like Lorne. Oh my god, it is awesome. It just I I love everything behind the scenes of SNL because I think what they have done really is it's crazy, wild. It's I like hearing fly by the CD. I mean, it but it's also really organized and it's Tina Faye and Amy Polar talk about their time on SNL is really fun. It's it's amazing. You know who his like best friend is? Who? Paul Simon. Oh, really? Yeah, that's funny. I know. Uh all of it. And like 30 Rock, they're just like all these. I never got into 30 Rock. I didn't really either, but it basically like the um I felt like you were either 30 Rock or the Office. Yeah, and I was the office. Or you were the office or parks and rec. Uh, I think you can be both for that. Yeah, because I do both. But the office, I feel like for me over 30 Rock is absolutely a thing. Yeah. Um, but Don, nope, I don't know what his name is. But Tina, there's Tina Faye and uh Baldwin. Which Baldwin? Alec. Alec. Yeah. I don't know. But he's based loosely off of uh Lauren Michaels also and like 30 Rockefeller. Like 30 Rockefeller, that's where SNL uh old I'm sure they said, and I don't remember, in his late 70s, maybe 76 or so. It's pretty crazy career, if you think about it. Wild career. You should you should watch it. I guess the behind the scenes stuff is so interesting. And the coolest thing is like he was so he was and still is so supportive of these like kids, you know, these comedians who were 23 years old. I mean, just think about the launching of so many careers, so many careers, lifelong careers, and he was the one who like launched them into the it's and how much and I think it's on Peacock, if you're looking for it. It's called Lorne. Oh, cool. Yeah. Um really enjoyed it. And that's not who that's not who Will Farrell did the documentary with. No, that's with Harper. Um what she she was a writer for SNL though, um which is an also Incredible. What is that one called? I don't know. Look it up. She likes it. I have a computer. Now she likes it. That's another really I I just I love a documentary and I feel like that one was exactly what I wanted to watch. And if someone else is also wanting to watch that. Oh, it's called Will and Harper. Of course it is. That one was amazing too. Have you watched anything good lately? Have you been watching anything? I'm in euphoria. Oh, the new season? Yeah. I haven't caught up because Jeff's been out of town. It is funny. I have to tell you the uh snake scene. It's just a crazy snake scene. No, it's fine. I just this one like portion. So like uh in and I'm not giving it's not a spoiler. Don't worry, people who haven't finished Euphoria. I also haven't finished it. But in season three, there's this scene where there's a snake in the strip club, like a python. Mm-hmm. Is a python the one that squeezes? Yes. Boa. Boa constrictor. Yeah. Okay. Anyway. Anyway, it's a big snake. A big snake. And she feeds it a live rat in the scene to open it. And then there's like this kind of creepy, ominous character that's talking to her about the snake. Like, do you know about the snake? And he's like, So this and she he tells her this story. He's like, it used to belong to one of the strippers, and I'm sure it's a metaphor for something to come. Used to belong to one of the strippers, and she would take it home, or she had it at her house every night, and she would take it out of its cage and feed it, you know, feed it these mice, and it would sleep in the bed with her, and then all of a sudden, um, it stopped eating these mice, and so she started trying to feed it like live uh rodents, and it wouldn't eat, it wouldn't eat, and so she took it to the vet, and the vet looks at the snake, like does the exam, and he's like, the snake is fine, and she's like, It's still not eating. And he sits her down and he's like, Well, you said you you're sleeping with it, and you're like, it's in the bed with you and it's your pet. And he's like, So it's what it's doing is it's stopped eating because it's sizing you up and it knows that eventually it's gonna be preparing for a bigger meal. Oh and you think it's your friend and it's not, it's a snake. Okay, so you've been watching you for you. I really like I just it's good. And did you ever get into skins? I loved skins. Oh my god. It is like it is like the new skins, it's like better than skins. But skins was great. No, I loved skins. Skins was a little too ridiculous. Like, I love I I love the like artistic component. I used that in high school. That was a long time ago. A long time ago. Yeah, it's old, it's really old. I wonder if anyone else has ever seen skins or something. Well, there is there is a name, and I'm not gonna say it on the podcast because I don't want to know people's opinion. I know, I know exactly what you're gonna say. It would be a nickname of one of the names that we have chosen for one of the potential genders of this baby that I really like, but I'm also like, oh, do I am I just gonna think of this character? You probably should. I mean, yeah, I can totally picture her. Damn, skin. Now you said the gender. Well, that's not what your baby is, you don't know. No, I know, but I wasn't gonna even say the a girl or a boy name. Whatever. It's fine. That's a somebody's gonna have to do a crazy deep dive or care that much. Um, but I don't know. Are the people who listen to our show? I this week Did we figure out the mud? Yeah, that was what I was just gonna say. I feel like I should be asking more questions on the podcast to our listeners. Um, because the number of responses I got too unbelievable. I loved it so much. I think I think the what I was picturing was PETA from the Hunger Games as like a rock. Like he was like hiding or something, and he was Peter PETA is like Peter. No, PETA is like PETA. Um that's it's not Peter, it's PETA. The craziest thing is we talked about PETA. Oh, it's double E. Yeah. There were so many. Yes, exactly. That's what everyone looked like. But there were other ones that I was like, oh, that could also be that did look like Keegan. Yeah. And Peason and every single one of them. Yeah, truly. Um, but there were other, like, I can't think of any of the like names. Did someone come up with that? A few different people did. It's really funny. A few different people. Yep. Uh, I got that a few times, and I think that is the closest to it, um, which is incredible. But the number of people that were like, I think they look like this, I loved it. It wasn't so I really should be we should be asking our listeners more questions. So yeah, I agree. And I feel like everyone, all of our listeners have been really supportive of my race commentary as well. Yeah. Which is great. So I appreciate it. Really, really nice. Yeah. So I'm like, oh my god, what I feel like I should ask them more questions. Okay, well, what questions should we ask you guys? I really I don't want to hear us talk, I want to hear them. Yeah. We will figure out the maternity leave situation soon. After Sarah has a baby. I mean, I don't know. Like, part of me is like, I'm gonna need some weeks off for sure. Uh, but I'm like, ah, we could figure out a way to make the pot. We're just gonna see how you feel. Like, I think the best way to do it is to just see what happens. You know, like you may not we just want it to be like a timely thing. So like I don't want to pre-record a bunch of stuff because that just is like, I don't know. And so that fun. Yeah. I I think, yeah, I think we get to just like kind of play it by ear and see. Oh, I do, I do know. Like, if you haven't, um sorry, Instagram is so weird. Like, if you don't put anytime you want someone to watch anything on social media, like that you've produced, you have to like pay for it. Which we'll I'm sure put ad spend behind. I was asking Sarah how because you have your new um Yeah, so we launched a doctor series um on uh my pregnancy um called Reroute, and episode one is out and live. So I just cried through the whole thing. It was crazy, it was crazy to look back. It's not sad, it's just me. Like that's that's not actually commentary on a lot of people texted and DM'd me and said that they cried through the whole thing, which is really wonderful and sweet, and sorry made you cry. Um, but it it is really it is a cool thing to get to actually Sophia did text me and she was, oh my god, so many people got E. coli from oh unbound. Sorry. And we're off to a different topic. Anyway, so poor Sophia, she's feeling better, but she uh texted me and she was like, This is so cool that you like get this like documentary to like document this whole thing for you in your first pregnancy, which is there are pictures of me as a baby or mom pregnant with me. Totally, whereas like you look into like your child gets to look back and watch this whole series of like you talking about how all of these things feel and seeing you continue to do. I mean, it's very cool, yeah. Yeah, super, super but it is it is crazy to see and and feel how long ago that was that we filmed. You look like a different person. I feel like a different person, yeah. I mean, I am. I like how you look now. I wish you could stay looking like this all the time. Like the Grinch. Humpty. That was so funny. Never mind, I'm not going. That is how I feel. Oh my god. Um, but yeah, if you haven't watched that, uh please go give it a look-see poo. It's on it's on YouTube. Oh god, it's windy and hot. Oh, okay. Sarah's about to roast. I am. I'm really what we have looking to look forward to this weekend. Oh, baby shower. Bippa shower. And we are at max capacity at this point, so classic, Sarah. It's like you're right. We moved it to a park. Yeah. It's gonna be it's gonna be really fun. I'm excited to see Crown Hole. I can't wait to see it too. I'm excited to sweat my ass through it. I uh really need to get working on it. I did, but I can help. No, I got it. I just need some hot glue guns. I think we have some. Do you have hot glue sticks? Hmm. I have the gun, I just need the sticks. 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