Norman, gravel artists, and hairography

This week, Sarah reveals the shocking results from Norman’s DNA test and Hannah talks about a recent experience with beer pong. Plus, they discuss the standout performances this week from two American female riders and their changing emotions about Sarah’s impending birth. 

This episode was sponsored by Garmin. Learn more about the new Natural Cycles integration and the Forerunner 970.

Find the Feisty Media interview with Dr Margie Davenport here.

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Transcript

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Welcome to Talking Over You with Sarah Sturm and Hannah Sturm. Here we go. If you're gonna be an asshole, at least be funny. At least be funny. I thought it was a man coon. We need to have like a real athlete on here. It makes me consider different careers every time I have to pee in my chamois. Did you get a new watch? I did. Let me see it. That looks nice. It's so nice, is it? And it's our newest sponsor. Oh, I didn't even try and do that. Hi everyone. Welcome to whoa, we're doing intros now. But yes, Garmin is the great uh new and old sponsor of this pod uh for this episode. I'm really excited to talk about this because it's very funny. Because in some ways, the thing I'm gonna talk about both worked and didn't work for us. Wow, and sponsors love when that happens. No, it's you'll understand. Um, but thank you to Garmin. We'll just start this off right away, diving in um for sponsoring this episode and a few others uh throughout the year with new fun products that they have coming. And I can't tell you any of them, but they're really exciting and I know them, which is more exciting than the products themselves. Um so I was really thrilled with this the newest integration from Natural Cycles, which is an app that I once used way back in the day for birth control. And you can also use it for pregnancy tracking, but it just was funny that I was talking about birth control while being eight and a half months pregnant. Um, but it's so I I used the natural cycles app for two years. Um, and it's what I used when um I decided to get my IUD out. Is this the one that you take your temperature? Yes. Cool. So the reason that it's really cool that they integrated with garment uh wearables is it is a pain in the ass to schlep your thermometer with you. I dragged that thing all over the world. I had it in Africa, I had it in Europe, like I had it anyway. It just is really it's a tough thing to to remember uh with everything else you have to remember in your life. But it is uh when used correctly, natural cycles is 93% um effective birth control, which is good enough for me. Um again, funny. Not gonna make a joke about that, but keep going. Well, we also used it to try to get pregnant, so it was really helpful when I was tracking ovulation, um, but specifically with Garmin in mind. Um, so the Natural Cycles app is FDA Cleared, and it's the world's first FDA Cleared birth control app. And that's actually why I kind of sought it out. And it was really great as someone who hadn't had a period in, I don't know, eight years to learn about my track my cycle. And I'm not a really big like data person and tracking, but I religiously I took my temperature every single day, and I really wish that this integration had been a thing when I had, you know. Don't worry, it still will be. You won't be pregnant forever. It feels like I'm gonna be pregnant forever. Well, then you know, this is probably not part of the ad. Maybe I shouldn't do like extremely fertile, like after you have like right after you have a baby. And people the like misconception is that people are like, you can't get pregnant while you're breastfeeding. Not true. Okay. So anyway. So I will be back. But using that, so the way that it works for all of you Garmin wearable users, and if you were contemplating getting a Garmin watch or a Garmin wearable, and I say wearable because they make a lot of you just need a Garmin device that has um the ability to read your temperature. So certain watches, um, I have the uh Forerunner 970. Ooh, it's either 970 or 940. Fours and sevens are tough for me. They are in fact the same number. Um or you can also orange. Fours and sevens, also orange. Orange. Aren't they? Yes. Wait, okay, we should come back to this because I have a lot to say about this. Okay, okay. Are we synesthesias? I have I was talking to a customer and I was explaining. This is the worst out of all. I know, I'm so sorry. I was like, Okay, pause. Go. Okay, so you have to have a wearable that can uh track your temperature. So they also make the Garmin Sleep Index, which is just a sleep band. There's just a band of fabric that has a little sensor. So if you're not a watch person, but you want to use this, you can just slip it on every night. I saw you wearing that. Yeah, it's great. My arms have gotten a little bit bigger and I haven't adjusted the size, so I wake up. Go ahead and adjust it. I'm gonna adjust it. Yeah. And adjust my ego as well. I feel like that's something that I would be really interested in having. It's awesome. I want one of those. It's great. Okay. Um, so you can get the Natural Cycles app, have a Garmin wearable, and then all your data, all you have to do, open the app in the morning, and it all syncs up. Whoa. And everything, so that's how I found out I was pregnant. I literally looked at my temperature data. This is before I peed on the stick. Right. And I mean, stupidly, I should have just listened to the app, and it was like, we were again trying to get pregnant, so I wasn't like using it incorrectly, but um through my temperature data, through um natural cycles, I loaded it all in and it was like, you need to, you're probably pregnant. And it was correct, crazy. That's a game changer. That's something that I it's super cool. And I I mean, obviously, we love Garmin around here because they make some of the best devices out there. Um, and I also really love the Natural Cycles app. It was really, really user-friendly. Um, I used it for a long time and I learned a ton. It's crazy. I mean, I could see how much we didn't know. It's crazy how much of women's health we don't know. And their mission at Natural Cycles is to pioneer women's health with research and passion, empowering every woman with knowledge that she needs to take charge of her health. And I can attest it did actually help me do that. Cool, and we love something that's really easy, I like trackable. So thank you, Garmin, and thanks for sinking or you know, sinky dinky with uh natural cycles for syncing up with our cycles. Our cycle cycles. Oh, psycho cycles. Okay, wow, we have a lot to get to. Wait, uh going back to the synesthesia, is that what it is? I was talking to a customer, we were talking about phone numbers. Um, and like because she like lost her phone and didn't know her partner's phone number. And uh I was thinking about 970 orange. That's my phone number is 970 orange. There are a bunch of fours and a bunch of seven. I know, I don't know it. I know because it and that's not like it's like the kiki and boba boba or whatever it is, boo-boo. Do you know what that is? We're like no, I thought you were having a stroke. It's a kiki or boo-boo. It's kiki or bumba or something like that. Those are baby products, I'm sure of it. I yeah, they definitely are. But no, like when there are certain shapes or people who are like either kiki or booba or whatever the word is, and it's like it there's no way to explain it. It just like things put into different. I'll send you a Did you turn our cameras on? Yeah, okay. Um, but I was talking to and like sixes and G's are the same to me. Yeah, and those are like more of like a green and blue, you know, like they're just all of the and threes are also in that, so it's not just about being like odds and evens. I just really struggle with the fours and sevens. Fours and sevens are orange and those are kiki. Those are kiki. Okay. Okay, okay. Okay, okay. What is it? Oh, it's a 970. Oh, is that what I said? I think that's what you said. Yeah. Okay, let's get to what we're getting to. I was about to just say, can you can I get one of those? Can I get your old one at least? Dylan has my old one because that idiot he had a nice Garmin watch and he took it off at one point we were driving back from Unbound and then must have like stood up out of the truck and now it's gone. Well, he doesn't deserve a new one. I agree. That guy leaves. I keep watches. Every single one you've ever given me, I've kept. Which is one. I have one. We'll sell that one and get a new one. Great. Okay, great. Wait, actually, what? Okay, I the first order of business is more data from Norman. Oh, I asked Jeff today. I was like, Jeff, what do you think Norman's breed analysis is? He said 100% chihuahua. I do think there might be some chihuahua in there though. Do you think? I think there might be. Okay, what else? As I'm pulling. I said, I said chihuahua. I said cattle dog. Um Why don't you give me like German Shepherd? Yeah. What do you think that like from the most percentage to the least? Cattle dog is top. German Shepherd is maybe second. Um, and then I feel like Dalmatian's in there, and then I feel like there's a Chihuahua in there. But we're getting into like we're getting into small yeah, small pieces of the pie. Okay. Okay. Go from the bottom to the top. Well, there's a lot of two percenters. Okay, we'll go start at six percent. Okay. Well, how many are there? First. Well, there's a lot. Okay, start at a good spot to start. Okay. Um as suspected, husky, Siberian husky, two percent. Only two percent. Okay. Keep this in mind. Alaskan Malamute, two percent as well. Okay. 11%, Chow Chow. Yep, yep. We saw Chow Chow. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, chow chow. Yep, yep, chow chow. Um, 14%, I'm sorry, two percent collie. Well, we're bouncing around. Okay. 2% collie. Okay. And also 2% Australian cattle dog. Which was the shocker of the century for me. Wow. And then we jump up, 14% golden retriever. That also blew my mind because Norman has barked at every single golden retriever he's ever seen in his life. Brother? Well, I thought it was because he was jealous. I think he might be. Um okay, and then we're I'm nervous.

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I'm nervous still.

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And then we go all the way up to the second place, uh-huh. 24%. Uh-huh. He's like basically a corner chip. I cried, I laughed so much. So I posted that thing and Rye. I like posted that thing on Instagram, and Rye was like, he's Chihuahua, isn't he? I was like, damn girl, you guys did. Okay, then what? 36% German Shepherd. Wow, he's a German Shepherd Chihuahua big. So it is so funny. So we've been calling him in Gordon. Gordito, gordito. I said, How's my little chihuahuasita? That is so funny. That's where his barks come from. I know, and it makes so much sense. I really am shocked that he's um has no cattle dog. That is such and that's the curly tail. I think that's more the husky. The 2% husky, you think is the curly tail? 2% cattle dog, too, was so shocking. Yeah. I really was surprised. And then Dan was like, see, we don't have to get a chihuahua now. You know what it means to me is that both of us now we need to always get chihuahua mixes because we're like, well, we love them, you know? And that's the only thing in common is that they're chihuahuas. Oh. I'm in. So funny. That's incredible. My $99. Absolutely, absolutely worth it. Did you find any, were there any um family members? Well, I know a lot of his litter mates. Oh, that's true. Um, but then yes, there were a lot. Did any of them come up? Really? There's a lot in Tucson and um other parts of Arizona and not a lot in Colorado. Chihuahua and German Shepherd. I have a Wawa. A Gerwawa.

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It's a it would be a weird language combination of German and Spanish. Ugh. He's so exotic. He's so exotic. Wow. I look at him differently now a little bit. Is it crazy? Yeah. Isn't it the craziest thing? Ugh. What it's honestly, we should get um sponsored by wisdom panel. Truly. It was really fun. It's kind of fun to wait. Yeah, I like the not instant gratification because everything is so fast. Yeah, I mean, waiting like 12 years to figure it out. Oh, yeah, that too. Yep. I also think that. I yeah, cool. I'm so glad that you did that. Really worth it. It was so you know how hard it was for me to not tell you, though. I know. I did the same thing. I told Maud, I told Rob. Oh, yeah, I told everyone before I told you. Dylan laughed so hard. Chihuahua boy. Chihuahua, you got a Wawa seat them. He's got a Wawa tail. Definitely a Wawa boy. I'm just like, oh god, I know. Every time he's an asshole on the drum, like, I'm sorry, he's Chihuahua. Oh sorry, he's just a big chihuahua. More chihuahua than golden retriever. Well, definitely. How'd that little Waba get in there though? How do you know that he the Wawa wasn't taking it? I feel like a Chihuahua to birth, like Norman was the size of a well, sir. It wasn't like 50-50. It wasn't like a purebred chihuahua with a purebred German shepherd. I guess that's what I'm picturing. Well, no, I think they're like a butt like I guess that's sort of like me and Dylan. Oh my god, that's that's exactly what it is. It's like Dylan's like the German Chihuahua. The German dude. You're the little New Mexican chihuahua. Oh my gosh. Okay, so that was my big news. And so this has been a really fun podcast. I'm done now. That's all I you should have really saved that for the end because now I feel like I'm gonna just space out for everything else. Well, I had a we had a big weekend. Let's hear about it. Um, of doing well, I had a weird thing happen. So I walked there was a lot of bike racing excitement, especially from women that I know well. Yeah. And they had incredible weekends. So remember, I'll flash back to the Sevilla Jenny drama from last week. Yeah, the T-bone. It wasn't even a T-bone, it was a full, like she should have been relegated. Anyway, there was a lot of drama and then it carried through the week from my mama. Um, and I don't really feel bad for Jenny because she never really like apologized. Not that she has to, it's sport, whatever, blah, blah, blah. I think it definitely affected both of them for the fall this last weekend. Okay. Um and Civilia, as expected, showed up to the short track on Friday and won the shit out of it. Hell yeah. Yeah, it was her first World Cup win of her career. It was so I mean, she like she didn't like walk away with it. It was an epic sprint to the finish. Okay. And um, yeah, it was really, really exciting. She was not. But Jenny had a bad day. Yeah. Sports hard, man. I wonder if Jenny feels bad about what I'm saying. I'm sure I'm sure. I'm sure a part of her is regretful. Like competitiveness to get space for two truths. And are we swamping now? Oh god, no. I felt like swamping uh language. Ugh. Isn't the swamping when you yell? I thought swamping was just like saying all your things. I don't know. You told me. I don't know. Oh, okay. Okay, I almost I almost just outed the person who told me about it. I found out who it was. It was not who I thought it was. I know. La la la. Anyway, um, I do think she is probably regretful, and she did she did have an interview where she said like she was just sorry that every like it happened that way. And I'm sure like deep down, like they're they're just people, you know, they're just doing their best to win the race, and like it was probably a split-second decision. Totally. She's like maybe she was super competitive and just like went too hard, didn't know her own. Like, whatever. There's hard not to think about both sides. She did kind of fuck up. Like she took a line that was messed up and like it really looked bad, and then people are just harsh. Um, and I think they're harsher on women, I'll just say it. Yeah, oh, definitely. And and the thing is, like, civili I mean, I'm sure there's some cattiness, but like they're really the both of them did a good job um not being caddy. Like Civilia really had like a super pro response, and I'm sure she was feeling other things, but anyway, she just channeled it, channeled it into a win the next weekend, which is how you freaking do it. Yep, real professional, yeah, super pro. And then she flatted the in the cross country but still got third. Wow, which is crazy. So I don't I guess I don't totally understand the format of all of this stuff. So like they have all these like little races in the There's two. So like for cross country racers, there's cross country or downhill. Okay. Um, and those sort of follow a similar World Cup circuit. World Cup mountain bike. You're gonna have to explain this to me at the end of the day. And really fine. Do you follow it? Not really. Until you like, well, when this baby pops out, we're gonna be watching a lot of bike racing. But maybe you'll follow the parts of it. Anyway, maybe there's a short track, which is the short one, and then there's cross country, which is longer. Yeah. And they're on it. Short track is always first, and then that placement gets you a different row start for the cross country. But it is like a series. Yes, okay. World Cup mountain bike series. So is it done now? No, it goes through the summer. Oh. Yeah. And then there's like a winner at the end of it. Uh-huh. Like, there's I would almost say it's like a bigger deal to win eat like each one in some ways. Because there's a lot of variables. But that well, that's not true. Like, Christopher Blevins won the overall in both cross-country and short track last year. Wow. Which was historical. Historical. Historic. Hysterically. Historic. It was hysterical. Anyway, um, it was cool because you know, American women have been, you know, slowly making their way up. It's a very European-heavy sport, and so it's a really big deal when Americans do well. So good job, Sevilia. That's awesome. Um, and she was awarded like the most Nobel Peace Prize, yeah. Yeah, it's incredible. And then yesterday, yesterday, I have to say, Kaylee Blevins spoiled it. Not that I was gonna watch it, but she texted me first thing and she was like, Oh my god, are you watching Road Nats? And I was like, No. And then she was like, Page is off the front. And Paige had like two and a half minutes of uh Onweller, uh-huh, gravel page. Okay. Uh she had like two and a half minutes on the Peloton. And this is at US Road National Championships. So So you can just like as a because she's in the Grand Prix, right? Uh-huh. You can just double dip all over the place. You can do whatever you want. You know what I guess for road nationals you can because it's is it a use? I don't know. There's like all the you're really gonna get bored, and I don't know the rules. But apparently, yes, for this race, you can just enter as an individual, which is kind of crazy because usually road racing isn't like that.

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And I don't know any of the ins and outs. I don't know if they had people working for them. I did see so the other person I wanted to talk about is Kate Courtney, uh-huh, who is who has never this was her second road race. She's not doing she's not doing mountain biking. Well, she's not doing Grand Prix. Correct. Do you think she really hasn't done much gravel? Do you think she sh should do graveling? I'm curious. So here's a little like timeline on Kate. Kate has been like this historic. Uh truly, like she's made history, especially as an American mountain biker. And I think we've talked about her. Like she did something big when she was younger, then had like some disappointing results, and then is like coming back and doing really well. Yeah, right? Yes. Okay, exactly. I'm just gonna sum all that up. Yep, great. Yep. And then, well, she pivoted because last year she was still sort of doing the mountain bike thing, uh-huh, and she fell uh doing some weight training and broke her wrist and had to get surgery. But that is what pivoted her season, and that's why she signed up for Leadville and she ended up winning and setting the record at Leadville, and then she went on to sign up for Marathon Mountain Bike Worlds, which is longer, and she won the shit out of that. So she has a rainbow jersey, which is a really big deal. And now she's sort of just pivoted entirely because she used to race the World Cups, the same thing that Civilia just won. And when you race those, you're just doing that. Like it's it's pretty intense. Like you're living in Europe for most of the year, all the races are essentially out there. There's like two in the US, um, blah blah blah. So Kate is on a totally different trajectory, which is a big deal for her. She's only ever done World Cup racing. Okay. So she Signs up for Road Nationals that was last weekend. She's done one road race ever that was in Europe, uh like a couple months ago. Well, where she won a stage, which is crazy. Um and she's obviously a very talented young woman. Um, and so she's in the mix. Okay. Lauren Stevens is in the mix, she's in the Grand Prix, like all these gravel mountain bike athletes are mixing it up with all these road racers. And it's a I Caitly I had just woken up and Dylan and I had kind of a rough day the day before, so we were taking it chill morning. I wasn't looking at the phone and then my Garmin watch dinged and I see who wins, Kaylee. She just hit you with the winner. She hit me with the winner. Dang. I honestly I was like, oh no, but I was like, I was not gonna watch the whole thing. Okay, wait, so who won? So Kate Courtney freaking won the road race. But Paige was off the front, so I thought Paige was gonna win, which would have been cool because she actually came from road. Yeah. Paige got third in the time trial, and um a triathlete won the time trial, which is uh what happened. Kick. Your baby's kicking, yep. I feel like I'm talking really fast. Anyway, it was really it's like slow the fuck down. It was really exciting. Like Kate winning was so sick, and like her crossing the lot, like it was just all like I think she also was like kind of surprised. I was texting her and I was like, bro, but I do know I think she's uh I think she's maybe gonna go for potentially some road racing in the future. Instead of is there more money in road racing? Uh that's a hard for women to answer. I would say if you are Demi Vollering, who's like the Nike athl, she's she's like one of the bigger up-and-coming athletes and rumored to have signed the first million-dollar contract. Wow. So if you're her, well, sure. But then there's also, I think, women making like $20,000 a year. Okay, but like in gravel, like you can make money being a gravel artist. Um that is what I feel. I feel like I always get stuck on are they an author? Are they an artist? Are they an athlete? And I mix them up all the time. I'm a gravel author. Gravel author. Um I'm a tattoo um athlete. Uh I feel like that actually kind of tracks. You were a book athlete this weekend. Ugh. Shop athlete. Shop athlete. Yeah. Um I can't remember what I was asking. Oh, money. There's money to be made there. And it seems like she would probably do really well in the Grand Prix. I guess I I suspect she's probably targeting Olympic bid, would be my guess. Because Olympics are coming. Okay. They be coming to town. Are they? Unless America fucks it up. What? Which huh? Oh, I just feel like the LA Olympics are it's gonna be a total. Oh, I keep forgetting that that's a thing. Yeah, we gotta tickets in a couple years. I know. That's crazy. We're gonna have a toddler. We did not buy the toddler a ticket. I don't think you want to bring a toddler. Uh we might have to. What are you gonna do? Do you want to come with us and watch it? Maybe. Okay. And not go to the Olympics? Yeah, that does sound fun. Sick offer. Well, we could either we could either get two tickets or you have two tickets, right? I'll go with you and we'll leave Dylan to watch the kid. Oh, yeah, they'll love that. Yeah, and I think that seems perfect. I hope he's outside right now and didn't hear that. That's my plan. Um yeah. Okay, so big time. I just think it's cool. Like, women are really well, and then like this other one's doing like mixed media, which seems like we are in mixed media era, like uh Matt Wilson won uh big crit series on a gravel bike, which was crazy. Sorry, roadies move over, actually, is sort of what's happening. Well, it does seem like do roadies kind of stick to the road and then rodies sort of stick to the road, although Lauren Stevens, the woman who got second to Kate, you know, she has been one of the more dominating gravel athletes since I've raced. So yes and no. Like which discipline is the most um I think mountain dynamic and like you can oh or not dynamic, but uh versatile. Like I mean other things. Gravel sort of fulfills that or cyclocross too. We'll start with cross, like you have to have like some pretty decent bike handling skills. Um and then I mean, I don't know if you're really like on the road that much, but yeah, road, I I feel like road is the least applicable to other things. Yeah, I imagine if you're like used to just being on the road, if you get on a mountain bike for the first time, it's a whole different thing. And it's really scary. Like, as uh I came from mountain biking and cyclocross and then found gravel, and I had done some road racing, and uh not to say road is terrifying. Yeah, that looks really scary. Being in a Peloton, like I truly like I don't want to paint the picture like it's easy. It's it I think road is actually the most dangerous form of cycling. Yeah. Um, and I stand by that. Gravel is not necessarily not that way, like it's becoming the more similar to road, like pack racing it becomes, the scarier it is. But we just don't hit the same speeds that you do on the road. Um, and those crashes are terrifying. Yeah, they look really awful. I don't love that. In some ways, mountain biking is kind of the safest. Like you do have like ouchy boo-boos, yeah, and you'll bend an elbow the wrong way, but but you're not getting smoked by cars or you know, crashing at 60 miles an hour. Yikes. Wow, and that does sound fun. Six sport you got there. But anyway, good job, Kate. Good job, Civilia. That is really inspiring. Also, what I was gonna say to make it more about me. Let's hear it. Um, I like was so excited I love watching bike racing, and I think because I knew both of them, it it made me, and I'm like so pregnant right now, I'm just slowly getting over being pregnant. Like last week I was like, this is fine, I'm fine, it's fine. And I've just been really tired and not really wanting to ride very much, and blah blah blah. And then seeing all this bike racing happening, it just made me start like, oh, is my career are the best moments of my career behind me? And I j I don't know, it just was like, oh, it's gonna be so hard to get back into it. Yeah, I bet it is. Yeah. Do you feel extra pressure? Like, do you feel pressure outside pressure or inside pressure? I feel inside pressure. Yeah. Well, I and like I just don't, I don't know. It's not that I was like fully fulfilled by it last year when I was like, do I want to keep doing this? Like I wasn't, I didn't really have that same drive and fire that I did when I was in the earlier parts of my career. I don't know. I think it just like it ebbs and flows, but I would there was like a little bit of mourning involved when I was like watching these women totally. Because I just know what it takes to be at that level. And like I'm not saying you can't do it as a mother. Yeah, it's just obviously you still can. Well, and I think then you're gonna be there's gonna be some competing uh emotions um that come up, I'm sure, where it's like guilt for not training, guilt for not being a kid. And I think that's gonna be a lot to navigate um a podcast um that was really great. If anyone is currently pregnant and an athlete, um I highly recommend this podcast. Uh Margie, spelled Margie, our mom's name. Um, and I'll have to look up her last name because it's it has left me, but we'll put it in the show notes. Um, but she is um she's done a lot of compiling of data and studies on women in sport and what you're able to do in pregnancy. It's a fabulous podcast. She she was on feisty media. Um anyway, uh I will link it in the show Lily will link it in the show notes. Yeah, and I I was just thinking about um like we probably won't follow up with Lily either, and she's gonna be sitting there going, okay, I'm Googling somebody named Margie, and that's the only information I have, and that there's a podcast. It'll come to me. I just sorry, I know. It's great. We'll we'll figure it out at some point. It's okay. Put your computer down. Uh no, it's gonna bug me now. I know, but I hate when you pull your computer down. I know, I'm so sorry. You're just gonna have to suffer through it. And so is everyone else. Davenport. Great. Oof, yeah, I feel so much better. Do you? I do. Okay, great. Margie. Margie. Anyway, she's Canadian, but what she was talking about in like in postpartum, there's a lot of it's it's almost more challenging in postpartum because she's like, everyone's bodies respond differently, and there's and she brought up there's like also the guilt thing. And I think that that you know that occurs for any woman ever who's had a baby. Yeah. I know you did say you were having a bunch of anxiety. Is that like the main well I also hung out? I hung out with some friends. One of them has uh two very young kids, like three and one, barely one, and then the other one just had a fresh little baby, and I felt like I was staring into my future, and I didn't love what I saw, to be honest. What were you seeing? I I think I I think I was just really overwhelmed mostly and like hot and uncomfortable and unsure of my own situation, but I just saw like, you know, I'm not really a huge fan of toddlers, you know. Yeah, nobody is. I know they're really hard. And I was just like, oh my god, this sucks. Like the mess, the three-year-olds seem like the worst. I know. I just am like, uh, and I know so many of our listeners have amazing kids, and I love it. But I also feel like they would probably agree with us. Yeah, it just was a little bit panic inducing, and I was just like, okay, like how much of this is me, like, I don't want, I don't want what they have. Like, and how much are they gonna be like, yeah, good luck making it into something other than this? Or how much can I actually change and like make into my own thing? That's everything, and then there's like the woman who is nursing, and I was like, God, that looks awful and so boring. And she's in like the fourth trimester right now, and it looks so brutal. Yeah. I and I think it's gonna be all of those pieces. And the other thing that I think about all the time with you specifically is that you always for better or for worse. Can't wait. Um, I'm trying to think of how to like articulate this uh properly, and not because I'm trying to like you know, mind your feelings. Um, I'm really just trying to think of how to like say this. But you always have figured out how to make the world work for you, not how you fit into the world. It's always like, okay, how do I make it and I'm curious if that applies to other people, it will because I mean also I think like there's so many different cultural ways to raise a child. Like, I I can't remember if this was I reading rereading Esther Perel's um yeah, who I love, and I think it was in this book. I don't know, I consume a lot of different media, but um, there was something about like the difference between like French moms and American moms. And like in Europe, and maybe maybe just in France, but like in Europe, it's not like your world doesn't revolve around your child. Yes, your child fits into your life. I know everybody. And I think that takes a lot of effort. I don't think that's just like peaceful. Like I think you have to like really figure out how to make that happen. But I I think I don't think you're interested in letting go of your entire life and what's important to you. And so I I think you're gonna you'll figure it out. I think it's gonna be a challenge, but yeah, for sure. You will I don't want to say like these friends they like they were very much just like I was at a figuring out what works for them. Totally. Well, and that and that's they were doing the same thing. Like their toddler was just simply around. Yeah. Like we weren't like revolved around the kids, and everywhere you go, there the fucking kids are. And that's and I think the other thing is like I really have loved my friends, and like I just have noticed, like, with my own friendships with you know, the people who have had children, like it does change things. This is what this is, yeah. I mean, I don't worry about you as much because I'm like, you're gonna love them because it's gonna be your own kid, but like, and I'll love them as my friends, but like I'm nervous about like I was thinking about last weekend when we got to spend time together. Yes, and like I'm like mourning, oh, I'm gonna cry, but I kind of mourn like this relationship in this version that we have, which is like I feel like the the best it's ever been, and so close and just the two of us. But I also like as we're like I'm also just definitely hormones. I am my head. That's okay. I see as my friend Sam, shout out today at the coffee. Our mouth shout out, but he hasn't lived here in five years, which is crazy. Yeah. And he's I mean, truly like one of my closer friends, and I saw him today, just by chance at the coffee shop. I knew he was in town, and uh he's like, How are you? And I just was like, I was like, I guess I'm not super good. I'm feeling something. He's like, I'm feeling really overwhelmed. On Saturday after the busiest day of work and just a very frustrating week of work, uh, I just had had such a day and I got home and I yeah, cried off all of my mascara, but rallied, put and then put it back on and went out and played. Sarah, I played beer pong. Oh my god, fun. Yeah, until midnight. Question though, did you have the little cup to wash the ball off? Okay, things have changed since I felt so fucking old, is really what happened. But um, people play with water in the cups now. You don't put you don't put the beer in the cups. You put water in the cups and then you have a beer on the side. Part of it is sifting the dog for with your teeth. Yeah. You have to be like a like a big blue whale. Is that the whale that like with the crew they have the stuff to sift? Yeah, exactly. Um filter out the water. I used to know the name of the thing. I'm bummed that my brain is changing. Mine is too, and I don't have a baby inside of me. So I just have stress. Oh my god, I'm like so disappointed in the youth. Oh, that they do that. To be fair, most everyone was in their 30s. Um it wasn't there were some deaf. Oh, I had another, like, I'm a fucking millennial. Um, somebody was talking about the Etsy witches. Do you know what Etsy witches are? I've heard of this, I've heard the reference, but I no, I don't know. Okay, no, me either. I also didn't look it up. Um, but I was like, what? Why is everyone talking about this? How do I not know what it is? I guess you can like hire, you can like pay somebody on Etsy to like put a spell on somebody else. And I was like, Is that what it is? I will do that. I pay me money to do that. Watch this. That seems easy. It seems right. I got this. Yeah, I think that's what it is. But apparently it's a thing all over social media that I am not privy to. Wow. And that makes me feel incredibly fucking old. Also, we're just not chronically online. Well, also, I was with my friend Molly, shout out, and uh, she was playing beer pong and I had my glasses on because I can't see at night. Um, and I wanted to be able to see the like we went to a concert before I wanted to win, and she was like, Can I can I borrow your glasses? And I was like, I don't think we have the same exact same prescription. She put them on and she was like, Of course we have the same prescription so that she could play beer pong better. Well, I feel like your prescription I also can use. It's a pretty generic one. Thank you. She's so generic. Wow. You just call my eyes basic. You've got basic eyes. You know, my sister, the one with the basic eyes. Base gas pitch eyes. Oh, actually, you love this. I was at um the grocery store because it is the one way that I can contribute to our family right now. Uh, as Dylan is literally like doing the most intensive construction project. Yeah. One of my friends responded to a story and she was like, I feel like this foundation is gonna be able to support a seven-story building. And I agree, it's the most robust foundation you could like. I think our house is on cinder blocks. Like that's gonna be our tornado shelter. I was like, a flood's gonna come through here, everything is gonna be leveled except for that foundation. Our studio shed is gonna be so solid. It's so sweet. I'm really excited for them too. I feel kind of guilty because I feel like I'm gonna reap some of the benefits that I have. Well, you can offer jepps. I said uffs. Uffs, jepps help. Oh my god. Oh, it's okay. So ready to not be pregnant. Not yet. You gotta hold that baby in because I'm going, I'm going out of time. We got five more weeks. Have you taken any more birthing classes? We have one this week, our last one, and I'm so sad because I really love the woman who teaches it. There's not much. She really is continuing bread. Did I say this on the last podcast? She's like the death duela from dying for sex. You didn't say that, but I know exactly who you're talking to. Oh my god. Amy. Well, I don't know. It was the death duel as well. Oh, okay. Yeah. I know that scene. It's so good. It's a really good scene. There's a clip. Even if you haven't watched any of the other show, you should watch the clip. I've heard from I've heard from. I've been on social media and seen all of my friends. All of my friends uh who I've never met. Um, and they've referenced this scene. It's basically this woman explaining the dying process to this very young woman who's been diagnosed with terminal cancer, and her friend and her mom are in the room. Um, and it's really dark, but so beautiful and so funny and apparently so accurate. And there was a lot of hospice nurses that love that scene, and they were like, yes, this is a hundred percent what happens in this woman's energy of how she's society. We don't talk about totally death. I know at all. Or birth. I mean, a little bit more about birth than about I've learned a ton. I know a lot more about birth than I do about death. Um to hear it just in like very like plain I thought it was really so good. Yeah, it's such a good show. I've recommended it. Oh, I actually told I listened to the podcast we've talked about it before because it was a podcast before it was a show, and I listened to the whole podcast. Whoa, what happened? I remembered something else. I have an update from my pelvic floor doc. Wow, your updates are so I feel like as we continue on, I feel like our update our lives are so different. Not someone winning the World Cup, pelvic floor doctor. Update. Have you seen the um the nuns that have a podcast? Oh no, I've heard about them. Oh my god, I love it. We're just gonna plug all these other podcasts. You just go, sister, what music are you listening to? Sister. Sister, you're so good at that. Like they'll talk about like the games that they play all together and like they play like card games, and she just goes, Sister, you're so good at that game. So it's like the opposite of our podcast. Sister, you're a fucking cut when you play that game. Sister, you're not supposed to flip the board. Sister, you're being really rude. So I'm gonna just start addressing you as sister, sister Sara Zoe. Love it. It's it's lovely, it's calming, it's wonderful. Sister, I love that podcast. Sister, I agree. I can't wait to agree. Anyway, that's that's my update. Okay. So I go back to the pelvic floor doctor. Oh yeah. And I report back that I can't I can't do these exercises on my own because I simply cannot reach. Because of your nails? No. Well, yes, I had to get my nails off. You're fine. Which I I was no, she was like, Yeah, that makes sense. Your nails look ouchy. Um, and no, I can't reach around my front. My belly's too big. Your arms are too short. My arms are too short. That's what it actually is. No, my belly's too big and my arms are too short to do both. Or both of those things contribute. Can you reach around the back? Well, I'm gonna do it. If you can't reach it from the front, you could just reach it from the back. I'm good. So anyway, but uh so I tell her about this podcast that we oh no. So uh of course her name is Sarah. If you're listening, shout out Sarah. Um she shows me, she was like, Oh, well, there's a tool for that. I'm so sorry, I meant to mention that on our first session. And she pulls up basically it it's a sex toy. Get it? It's like shaped. Oh, I already have it. It's are I'm picturing like a theracane. What are those things? That's what Dylan was like. Why don't you just use our theracane? Because it's got a pretty big ball. A big ball at the end. Smaller than a baby's head. I know. Every time I fold those baby clothes, I'm like, oh my god, this is so little. And I was like, ooh, no, it's not. It's a big tampon. I saw TikTok or something that was like show it was crocheted showing like different dilations. And I was gonna send it to you, but then I was like, this is actually really scary to me. We see it a lot at our birth class, but desensitized us. Yeah, but is it crocheted?

unknown 43:59

No.

SPEAKER_00 44:00

Oh, that would be cool. And it was like crocheted and then they'd like stick like a baby doll head to like show Oh. I think you're so by the time you get to the pushing, you're like push. Yeah. Yeah. You just don't want to push for too long. So what did your pelvic floor person say about peeing? You've been peeing in your pants a lot. Oh uh she said that that is um the baby growing. It's your baby's pee. It's the baby's pee. I didn't pee. My baby just pee back. Every time I have a really gross part, I'm like, the baby too did. And now Dylan started doing that. There was one that I was like, I I actually feel like I just heard you just poop in your pants. And Dylan just goes, Norman, not even in the room. He goes, oops, the baby. I was like, ew, yucky. Anyway, um wait, so what's the tool like? So it well, this is the funniest thing. So it's definitely a PT, a pelvic PT tool. I can't remember what it's called. Uh, but it's shaped like a what letter is that? That's not a letter. It's shaped like a partial W. Like an N yeah. Yeah, sort of. But it has like two ends, like one's a little thicker and one's a little thinner, and it it's bent the other way so you can have some leverage. Uh-huh. And anyway, she was like, you can't, like, there's two options. Like, this is the best one to get. And she was like, I guess you can get the one that vibrates. And I was like, I was like, oh, they knew what they were doing. She was like, I think they were going for like the Theragun, which is like that way. And I was like, were they? Were they going for the Theragun? I was like, but there's a lot of cup. I bet there's a lot of ladies out there that are like, I just have to buy this PT tool. Oops. Oopsie poopsie. Oh, I didn't know it was vibrating. That's crazy. So you got the vibrating one, right? I didn't. Why wouldn't you? Because she said it. Well, I was like, I don't want to walk into like my pelvic PT office with like a vibrator in my purse. You have to bring it to the office? No, I don't. I don't know. I feel like they probably want you to leave that at home. I'm gonna leave that. They're like, ooh, nope, nope, keep that in your purse. Don't touch it. Wait, I feel like you didn't um give me enough credit for the Theracum. That was thank you. That's what I needed. Sorry, I was trying to gloss over that one.

unknown 46:40

I know.

SPEAKER_00 46:42

Do you feel like you're often embarrassed by I'm not? I'm just thinking about your sponsors. Yeah, I've got nothing to lose here. So clear. You do, you have a studio shed to lose. No, you're gonna use that for other stuff other than the podcast. I know, but not if I get fired from all my jobs. That's true. That'd be a crazy thing to get fired over. Could you imagine? Oh my god, I started reading yesteryear. What do you think? I love it. But I also feel like she a thousand percent just took Ballerina Farms life as her like muse. I'm only don't spoil it. I'm only like a couple chapters. She, you know, Ballerina Farms just commented on it. Oh, she haven't read yet, and I've been meaning to review it. I just had like a really crazy week. Um does it give anything away for her? I don't know, because I haven't read it. Oh, okay. I'll read it first and let you know. But I don't think it does. Um, but the author's clap back to that was like I took so many things from so many different, like, um like there are components of a lot of different social media. A quick like just over yesterday of yesteryear so they know what we're talking about. Sure. Yesteryear is a book that just came out. It's about a it's obviously a novel, um, but it's about a trad wife who wakes up and it's 1855, and so she it there's kind of like these dual timelines. Um, and she's like having to be an actual like trad wife, not just like a social media influencer trad wife. Um, but it's it ends up being more complex than that. Okay. I mean, it it already has become that, like I mean it is, yeah. But the first the first few chapters, I was like, oh, this is this is Hannah Nielsen or whatever her name is, Ballerina Farms. Yeah. Who I actually didn't don't follow and don't know much about it. I know plenty of other like there are a lot of other and like it it's not. I know, but her specifically, like I I know the like Nara Smith or whatever the other trad like very famous. I mean, these women have I think Ballerina Farms has like 10 million followers so well. Insane. It's it's crazy having a bookshop um and selling that book because I'm getting like lot and a lot of I mean there's a lot of buzz around it. And yeah, so people have have read it and have opinions and um I get a lot of people who hated it. Really? Yeah. I'm I'm into it. I think it's so interesting. Did you see Anne Hathaway won the movie? I think the people who hate it hate it because she's an unlikable character, not supposed to be exactly. And I get that. Like there have been books that I've read where I'm like, I don't I can't even read this because I can't stand this person um or this character, you know, and and so like I I understand that, but I urge you to just keep keep on writing. Oh, I will. Um yeah, Danny also started it. Yeah. It's I'm liking it. And I'm also reading it's a bad name, birth vibes. Oof. It's a bad name, it's not great. Jen. Maybe that's what they could call the the theracum. Birth vibes. We could just rebrand one. Honestly, I should really branding. I don't know why. I think I might have missed my mark. I also feel like I would have scrolled past that on the Amazon store if I saw one called the Theracum. And that's what makes us different. You got the Thericane, the Thericun, and the Thericum, and then you have the full set. Honestly, just like that's brand recognition, and that's that's a brand you can get behind. And we are looking for sponsorship. So someone like a sponsor. I'm glad you're reading yesteryear. I just started a new one. It hasn't come out yet. It's called Fruit Fly. I'm just getting into it. Um, and I can't remember there was something. Oh, I saw like a quote from the book and I said, Yep, I'm I'm reading it. It said something about like Virginia Wolf would have loved Grinder, and I was like, I would like to read that book, please. I'm requesting an arc. Oh, that sounds funny. So I just started reading that.

unknown 50:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 50:53

Anyway, oh, I started watching a new show. Well, a new season of um The Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders. Oh. God, okay. Binging it. Really? Yeah. I love that show. Did you watch a second season? I think so. Where they got like the raises and stuff. Kind of. They were I know, truly, they were getting like paid $15 an hour. Nuts. Um watch it's a lot less about the money stuff, but they just I always like when they do the um the makeovers. I like that with any show, you know. I know. Even the top model days when they just like ruined those girls' lives. Oh, that was so terrible. Did you watch that doctor? Oh, I did. Did we ever talk about that? Um Tyra. I almost called her Tara Banks. Sarah Banks. Yeah. Tyra's suing Netflix. Is she? Yeah. Wasn't she on that? She was like sign defamation. Defamation. I did learn a new term um from the uh Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders. What? Hairography. That feels like a Tyra thing. How they whip their hair is part of their dance choreo. Oh my god. Yeah. And one of the girls, they were like, Your hair's always in your face, and she was like, I have a really sweaty scalp. And I was like, This is Sarah. Um Sarah would never be able to do this because of her super sweaty scalp. And you know what their emotion is? Like all of them have their hair just like flowing in depth. She has to put hers in a ponytail. Because it's too sweaty that it just gets she starts looking like a little rat. Oh. Yeah. I would never describe myself as having a sweaty scalp. I just have a sweaty face. Yeah, you do. But you don't think your scalp is sweaty? Yeah, you wouldn't be able to do it because you just sweat off all of your makeup. Truly, my eyelashes would be gone. Years ago, uh when Kate and I were rooming for the bodega run ride thing together. Anyway, I was like, you know what I've never found is mascara that like survives a ride for me. And she was like, Oh, you have to get this Thrive Cosmetics mascara. That's the stuff that I cried off. Yeah. The tubing. Yeah. I literally, the second, the absolute second I start sweating, I see them fall off my lashes onto the insides of my fucking sunglasses. It's got a bunch of little caterpillars in there. Truly, and then they get into my eyeballs and then I wipe them, and then Ellen's always like, you have something black on. And I'm like, I know it's my mask. They do look it up. I love it though because it comes off so easily. Too easily. I have to have I think I have to do waterproof, but then that freaks me out to have that shit on my eyes. Yeah, I think you just don't do masculine. No, I don't. I don't. Yeah. I simply do not. Yeah. Um when I had time and the energy to do it, I would get mine dyed. Tinted. Tinted. Tinted. And I tried to do it myself, but that feels like I'm gonna make myself go blind. How did you do it yourself? With eyebrow dye. Ooh, that seems like a really bad idea. Yeah. I feel like don't do that. I don't. Okay. Because it didn't work. If it worked, I would. Will it make you blind? Maybe. Are my eyelashes dark? Lovely. I love it. I do have another update. Sadly. Oh, I saw. Oh. Go ahead, say it. Horlail. Yeah. Global warming got the better of how hot has it been? It's been, I think, in the like upper 90s to hundreds in Europe. There's like this freak heat wave, not freak. I mean nothing's freak anymore. Yeah. Um, going through France. Um, and she had to call it quits. So she doesn't even get to just like leisurely continue doing stuff. She oh temperatures exceed exceed 105. That's really hot. It's so hot. Yeah, so I think I mean there's a number of of factors. Like that's such uh I that actually made me like want to cry in her video that she when she was like apologizing to Rue and her crew and uh gosh, it was really hard to watch. And I mean that's just devastating for Leo. And I just know I mean I saw her after she didn't win the uh what's the continental divide ride? Yeah, don't ask me. It's the race, it's the race across North America basically. Um anyway, she like finished it but didn't like break her own record or so like she didn't break the men's record, also, and she was like so devastated, and that was just like so small in comparison to this effort. And like, I mean, she got REI as major. I just can't I cannot even imagine. So anyway, she had she made it all the way to Europe, um, truly still in the beginning of this challenge, like the ride around the world. Um, and yeah, there's obviously this heat wave going on, and she just was falling further and further behind. And the in order to break this record, she had to average like 200 miles a day, and she was just so far behind just after like three or four days. Like the margin for error is so small, which is crazy because it's you know such an insane challenge. But do you think she'll try and do it again next year? I don't know. I feel like maybe I can't imagine it's gonna like get cooler anywhere. I know. Did she do it at a different time of year? Yeah, well, I don't know. I actually don't know the answer to that. Because you're riding in so many different areas and like but yeah, goes to show you the heat. Oh, that's such a bummer. I know. I was so sad. Have you been watching sorry, do I we don't have to move on right away from this. I know. I it just will be me saying, Oh, I'm so sad. So sad. So sad. That really does suck. So sad. We are so sad. Um, have you been watching the woman who's like wanting to be like the first American to row across the We've talked about her, right? Yeah, from like is it California to Hawaii? Yes. Where is she? I don't know, but there apparently have been a bunch of flying fish that have been hitting her. That was my takeaway. I don't know where she is, I don't know how she's doing, but she's been getting hit in the face with flying fish. So I think she's doing pretty well. Kelsey Fendler. Wow, you looked that up so fast. Our own fact checker. Oh, I had a friend who listens to the podcast who offered to be our fact checker, and and she would do a great job. We need someone. I know, but I was like, oh, you would hate to try and coordinate with us. Oh, chance. And I will take that. That's on me. I'll never like we'll never subject anyone to that. Okay. I wonder if they think a little dramatic amount. Jesus. We would never ruin their lives with that. I mean, it's a full like I've learned that I don't plan anything on Mondays. Like I used to. Yeah, because we just we have to, it's kind of a like it's vibes, you know. We gotta see where we're at. It's also like our day off. It is a day off. Like Monday is our rest day. Yeah. And that's why we chose Mondays. Yep. Even though this is coming out on a Wednesday. But but I do wonder if people think that we're like, okay, we're gonna record at 10 a.m. Well, we used to do it in the mornings. I know, but now it's just easy. I do think it works so much better to just be like, let's just see when we're both feeling it. Yeah. When we're don't worry, let's say when we're both feeling it. I I know, I'm agreeing. I just ask you first and see when you're feeling it, and then I can get to feeling it.

unknown 58:51

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 58:51

What are you looking at on your computer? Um, I just started checking my emails.

SPEAKER_01 58:56

Sorry, I knew it.

SPEAKER_00 58:59

Immediately after you. But I did see that my uh new hair product just shipped, so I'm excited. What'd you get? Uh I can't remember what it's called, but it's uh a dupe for the new wash because I just simply cannot. Damn it. Sorry, you should text me. Uh, I didn't even think about it. It's fine. Anyway, do you have any other updates? Um have you been watching anything? I guess bikes. I well, I didn't really watch any of those races, unfortunately, because we've just we truly have been figuring out how to build the world's most robust studio shed foundation. It's crazy. I mean, some of it is just like how Dylan does things. Um oh, I do have some updates. Uh anyway. Um, don't forget. I'll write it down because I'll I'll talk about the sorry. No, no, it's cool. Listen, this I truly think that this baby is living off of sourdough bread in my brain. In your brain cells, definitely. And watermelon. And so much watermelon. I think I'm up to like 13. I feel like you've you eat one a day. I do. I I know, I can guarantee one thing when I come over here is that I'm gonna eat some watermelon. And I love that. And they were out of the seedless ones, and while I think the ones with seeds do taste better, it's really I mean it's I it's not an enjoyable thing. I don't remember there being seedless watermelons growing up. I don't, I was just thinking that. I don't either, because I definitely remember like spitting them out, spitting them out, just and then doing out of competition, you know. Yeah, of course. Yeah. Um, so anyway, we're building GMO thing. Huh? GMO thing that like came later. Yeah. Scientists got weird. And you know what? I'm here for it, and I'll buy the shit out of a seedless watermelon. And the personal size ones couldn't be bothered, far too small. Oh, that was not enough diarrhea a morning. You would need three of those a day, truly. I eat until I feel ill. Um, but anyway, I've been learning a lot about construction. I've learned that anyone who's ever done cement or concrete work, God bless you. Because literally sneezing out fucking cement. Oh my god. I mean, luckily Dylan Dylan and Ben, our friend, were doing it and they were like, you should go inside. You probably shouldn't be breathing. I was like, Yeah, that's bad for the baby for sure. Norman's just out there breathing in the cement. It just, oh my god, it's been so hot, and like we have to get this project done because the things show up on two tomorrow. And it's really hard because I just feel so like useless, because I kind of am. And so I like posted this video like at one point. And I also have just been like the last few days, I've just not been feeling great. So I was like sitting down because my feet just hurt. Um, I think just because I weigh so much more that my little delicate foot bones can't Yeah, I see you've come out of your shoes completely. Yeah, look at how swollen they are. Don't show those. That costs money. Yeah. Yeah. Uh and then I look a little bit more swollen. They are. Yeah. And I made the mistake of wearing KT tape on my belly and not putting enough sunscreen on. Is it like an actual tan? I look like a watermelon. Oh, you're final in your final form. Well, I can see where your bra normally is. Oh, yeah, you can see it. Yeah, I tried to even it out yesterday. But then I'm an idiot and I went for a hike with Norman, and I just I did bring water because I have learned that I just have to bring water everywhere. And um, but I only had my vans because I usually like walk him in vans if I'm not doing like a substantial hike. We hiked for six miles. Sarah. I know, and I in my like clapped out ones that I got like six years ago. Oh my god. And I got back to the car. Like, I truly I was like, what do I do? What do I do? I like don't think I can make it back to the car. Yeah, we went all the way to the bridge on the CT and back. Oh. This does feel like you deserve it though. Um that one I was like, and that's on me. I uh I kind of turned. I could have turned at any moment. This is you you're no longer allowed to hike without people who are like, Sarah, we're turning around. That actually makes me feel like really justified in every time that I'm like, I'm turning around and you're coming too. Yeah, it was not great. That was bad. Yeah. And we'll make smarter decisions next time. Probably not. Yeah, that's oh okay. Yeah, that's not your best. I was in so much pain. I had huge blisters on my. That's so dumb. And the socks that I bought from your shop. Oh, which are just like they're cute, but they're just like straight up cotton socks. Yeah. I like them because they don't have a tight waistband. Yeah, tight waistband for my ankle. Your leg waist. I just it was a humbling weekend, and I am in fact pregnant. Yeah, I was curious if, like, at some point in your third trimester, if you're gonna start getting real tired and I think I've hit it. We went to Home Depot and I was like, yeah, I really cannot help lift these bricks. No, and I don't think you're supposed to. I mean, I did realize how little core I still have. Like my abs are like truly on the sides of my stomach, which one of my friends commented and he was like, I legitimately didn't know that. Because I was like trying to rake. Oh, yeah. I didn't know that raking you use so much core. Like I really can't do any. I was the hose, I was the hose girl for the hose bitch. That's okay, say it. No, Dylan was like, we need a hose A and a hose B. There you go. Anyway, so I just felt like and then he was just kind of yelling at me because I wasn't hosing correctly, and then and then I was in the excavator, but I wasn't doing that correctly. So team building. Yeah, and then we had a moment where like we ended the day where I think we were just both so absolutely fried. Um, and we were not doing well as a unit, and I slept in the guest room. Yeah. But then we recovered quickly, and that's really important. I honestly mostly slept in the guest room because it's colder.

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Yeah. And and you know, there's this salsa that Dylan eats that just smells like garlic, and I cannot handle the garlic breath. Did you smell them in the garage today? No, sorry, I didn't. Well, I wasn't smelling his breath. No, it I opened the door and I was like, he had the salsa. Honestly, what kind of salsa is that? Sounds good. I love a garlicky salsa. And I'm a good partner in that I didn't ask him, did you have the salsa? No, instead you just said it on the fucking podcast. You are a good partner. You're right. That was good of you. Okay, so I got I got harassed on my bike the other day. Uh huh. I went for my first ever like Full on e-bike pregnancy ride. Okay. And I look pretty pregnant at this point. Like I I can't wear. We all know what you look like. I can't wear bibs. Yeah. And even so, so I I have the Levo R, which I've talked about before, which is honestly, it's almost like too good of an e-bike. Like I felt like I didn't work hard enough on the ride, but it made it way more enjoyable. Like I rode with Maud one day, I rode with Ellen. That's just supposed to be so fun. It was so much fun. Um, and we just went in the gulch on e-bike friendly trails people. And I'm like at the light finishing my ride, and um I'm like waiting for it to turn, and this car was also waiting to turn for a while. They were sitting there, like, and there was two guys in like a shitty camoy, and uh the windows were down, and then they were sitting there for a while, and then they finally started to turn, and they're like, Why don't you get a real bike? Only when they were turning. And I was like, Did they see you? What the fuck? Did they see you? I don't I mean, I was Wait, did you not have time to clap back? No, because they were wusses and they did it when they were turning. That would have been the best. I couldn't figure out which response I wanted to say. I'm surprised you didn't follow them because on Main Street, otherwise I would have I was looking to see if they went to Zia and I was gonna pop that fucker in turbo and follow them and be like, I'm eight months pregnant. Eight and a half, actually. Are you really eight and a half months pregnant? Yeah. That doesn't mean I'm going to have this baby in two weeks, though. Yeah. In a half a month. Let's you're pregnant for ten months. I just feel like people I didn't know that. I know, I know. It doesn't none of it actually. Anyway, yeah, because you really have to hold on to that thing. But yeah, one of my little app things tells you you're eight and a half. If if people ask you in months, this is how many months. That's crazy. Okay. Yeah. So I wanted to be like, I'm eight and a half months pregnant. I earned this. I hope they listen to the podcast. I'm sure they do. I'm sure they do. Yeah, now they feel really good. Well, at first I thought I was like kind of laughed because I thought it was surely a friend. Like teasing me. Oh, yeah. It definitely was not. That's my first reaction when somebody like either heckles or like gives me a hard time. I'm like, they're friends, not friends. They are faux. Faux. Yeah. Pooh poo head foes. But I thought it was really funny. I love that. But I've been zipping around on that thing. It is so much fun to cruise around in turbo. Just bring water and don't wear vans. Idiot. Anyway, that's all I got. Okay. I think that's plenty. I want to go eat some of that salsa. Only if you're leaving after. I will. I will in fact. As long as we're not sharing a house. Definitely not a bed. Um, thank you so much, Garmin, for supporting this episode. Um, and we're so excited. I truly am so excited to use the natural cycles integration. Yeah, that's awesome. It's so great. Just one last thing I have to sync in my life. It just does it automatically. Um love all the integrations. We love an integration. It also like syncs to your training peaks. It's fabulous. And your Strava. Is there anything? Oh my gosh. Okay, I'm so sorry for coming for people's. Oh my god, Hannah is gonna get cancelled on Strava so much for a Strava partnership. Okay. Yeah, people I I wasn't coming for Strava. I just I just personally don't I think you have a lot of people on your side too. It's not a side thing, it's it's really just a like and and some people explained it, and I was like, that makes so much sense. And I love that for them. And I think that's great. Like if it helps support people, but I was like, oh, okay, whoopsies, sorry. I definitely uh hit a nerve. Yeah. Oops. People like their straw bucks. Anyway. Okay, thank you so much. Thanks, Garmin. And thank you to With Paces Productions and Lily for doing all the show notes. Her name is Margie Davenport.