Elephant seals, grabbling davils, and the Hardrock 100

This week on the show, Hannah shares about her new love of seals after a trip to the California coast, Sarah tries to explain the hierarchy of professional cycling, and they both get to grips with birthing positions. They also discuss Kate Courtney’s big announcement that she’s signed a contract with WorldTour team FDJ, and Sarah talks about her camping trip to watch the Hardrock 100 where she cheered on Courtney Dauwalter, a Mennonite bachelor, and two elderly tourists whose car was hanging off a cliff. 

This week's episode is sponsored by the Durango Derby. Use code TALKINGOVERYOU10 to get 10% off your entry.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:01

Welcome to Talking Over You with Sarah Sturm and Hannah Sturm. Here we go. If you're gonna be an asshole, at least be funny. At least be funny. I thought it was a man coon. We need to have like a real athlete on. It makes me consider different careers every time I have to pee in my chamois. I'll just start it off. Start it off. Well, I'm not gonna start it off with the sponsor. Oh, okay. Well, go ahead and start it however you want to start it. Well, Hannah just popped in for the end of our meeting with Adula, which was really funny. And was like, uh-oh.

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Weird.

SPEAKER_00 0:38

I seem to be a little early. Pushing practice. Unfortunately for me. We talked a lot about uh a mucus plug. Yeah. Um honestly, it all made me you seem so chill, and I was like, oh fuck, I'm really nervous. I I think it's by design, but I'm so sick of being pregnant. Yeah. That I'm and now we're like to term. Baby can come. Crazy. It weighs six and a half pounds already. It's the craziest thing. I swear, uh, on our road trip, at least once a day, I was like, Sarah's about to have a baby. Sarah's gonna have a baby. I kept just being like, Jeff, do you understand that this is gonna like change everything? Everything? I was like, I hope you understand like how much this is gonna change my life. I honestly don't know if I've thought about it enough. Oh, don't worry, I'm doing a lot of the thinking for you. Yeah, you must be because you, Sparky, and Noah all had dreams on Saturday that I had the baby. It was such an intense dream because I like went to go have lunch with you guys, and you had like, I don't know, like a three-month-old just like sitting on your lap, and I was like, Is that the baby? And was like so emotional about it, and then you're like, Yeah, this is him. His name's Doreen. I was like, baby Doreen. And then I woke up. Do I wonder if there's there are any boys or men named Doreen? I don't know where that came from, but Okay, so it's going on the list. So clear in my brain. Uh yeah. Okay, so yeah, we were came in and you guys were doing push practice, which is wild. All of all of it was crazy. There were so many things that I just was like. Well, earlier we had um this the same woman who came and filmed our birth class, the 19-year-old. Uh-huh. Oh no, she's 20. Sorry, she's 20 now. She's so mature. She's mature. But she's boy, she's really getting a crash course. And why would she do? Well, she filmed part of the meeting with Kelly. Today? Yeah. Why? For the docuseries. For yours? Yeah. Oh. Whose? Well, okay, whose would it be? Norman? Here's what last time, okay. Last time you were talking about Filming? Her filming. I thought she was This is so dumb now that I say it back. No, no, no, say it aloud. Share, share with the class. So I thought she was like filming something for the like midwives or like the Yeah, that makes so much sense. Like they were doing like a That's so stupid now that I think about that. That they were like doing like a promo video for like totally us. We're the best midwives in town. Definitely. That makes so much sense. Oh, damn. Okay, yeah, no, I got that one dumb. Sister's doing a whole fucking. Well, you are baby's making you mean. Literally been in the docuseries. Which docuseries? Which honestly, I kind of feel like anyway, go watch that the docuseries, everyone. No. It was awesome. You should you should go read it because I think it it says so much about like, you know, just about how screwed up the algorithms are. Oh, yeah. You so frustrated. It's so bizarre. I'm over it. Uh, you should go read that comment. I think it'll make you feel better about everything. We also got a comment on our podcast from someone who said they just figured out how to make comments. So I'm assuming they're a little bit of the older generation and a male, and he said, I'm surprised that I know so much more about cycling than Sarah does. I'm not. And I think I'm just hyperfixating on it. I don't think they were trying to be mean because I'm sure I said something like grand calendar that was like, you know, dumb. But I was like, I know, I know cycling. I've been like really sensitive about it. I think I'm just hormonal. It was weeks ago. Oh, okay. Yeah. I never read the comments, and I read that one. So funny. They are so funny. Thank you, everyone, for coming. I love there's so many people look pretty on this last one. I saw that one. I love that one. Okay, so I do. Do you want to keep telling me that? That's fine. I know I was like, damn. We we need better lighting, is what I took away from it. We need better cameras. We need better cameras. Well, we're about to get a really beautiful new podcast studio. Yeah, right in time for you to have a baby and not be able to podcast. Jeff was like, is this the last one? And I was like, I don't know. I say we just keep rolling until we have we have this thing. Oh wait It's like me tell uh telling people that like we're building this studio when it's literally like 100% Dylan. Yeah. Well, it's not 100% you having this baby. I brought the jelly beans today.

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Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 5:27

And I brought a bag of jelly beans that I ate a lot of. You did. Okay, this episode um is sponsored by Durango Derby, another event. Yay! And I actually unintentionally wore the shirt that is the Durango Derby shirt to wait class. How fortuitous. Um, so Derby's been going on a couple of years, two, three years. Um, and it's an event here in Durango, Colorado. It's a mountain bike event, and it's a really cool format. It's not just like a go race your bike, start the race, finish the race kind of thing. There's um different segments. So there's uh there's four different stages, and you can actually choose when you sign up which stage, like if you want to do all of them, or if you want to just do two or three or four. Um and everyone under the age of 18 races for free. So it's a really super cool um deal for families. And we want to encourage, I say we because Dylan, my husband, is putting it on. He's the it's his brain child. Um, and um, the racing is done on a hundred percent single track, and it basically showcases all of the single track around Durango. Cool. And if you do all four stages, it's like around 50-ish miles with the transfers. So think of like an enduro style race where you like you're not racing the whole 50 miles, you're just racing segments that are timed. But it's a really cool way to like hang out with people, be competitive, see new trails. Durango's a really fun place to come visit. We're actually getting a lot of rain now, so the trails are not as scary. I just was looking at the forecast, and it looks like for the next like 20 days we've got like monsoons coming. Yes. Yeah, so I think uh it'll put a big stop to a lot of the fires. Oh, or or maybe potentially all of them. I think goodness. So that's good. Um, so the weekend is September 12th, which is a Saturday. That's the race. Um, and yeah, come on down and race Durango Derby. If you register b before my due date, July 31st, you get a free shirt, and you can use uh this 10% off code with um Talking Over You. Sorry. Which is the name of the podcast that you are currently recording. Jesus. Sorry, ad reads are getting harder for me. The code is Talking Over You 10. And um it's all lowercase. So if you use Talking Over You 10, register for Durango Derby before July 31st, um, then you get a free shirt and a discount. Cool. Yay! Yay! And it's great. It sounds fun. Yeah, it's a super fun. There's like kids set up like lemonade stands all around town. It's really cute. Yeah. I love that. It's really cute. Well, that sounds very good. It's a very cute race. And there's actually like there's a lot of prize money. So is there? Yeah. At least I don't I'm not totally sure of the money. There's prize money. There's prize money. Great. Yeah. It's it's honestly just such a great time. Like you start and finish at the Mesa. It's just a fun weekend of mountain. And there's not that many mountain bike races anymore. And maybe Sarah will be there with her baby. It will be. Oh, well, yeah, maybe not. Well, no, I think I'm gonna want to get out of the house. Yeah, I think you will too. So just don't kiss her baby. No kissing the baby. No kissing the baby. No shaky, no kissy. Damn. Yeah, that'd be. Oh my god, so much has happened since you left. Yeah, so we didn't record last week. We like pre-recorded with Michelle. Oh my god. Michelle was so awesome. She was amazing. If you haven't listened to that episode, it's like, I mean, it's it's a different cadence. It's not like we can be serious. I know. That's what I was. Every single reel that Lily has given us, which we still haven't put up because it was a lot. Um, they were all very serious, and I was like, perfect. People can see we are deep humans. Yeah, we've got some depth. We're not dumb. Well, we're dumb, but at least we're we're deep and dumb. We're deep and dumb. We've got some soul at least. Yeah. No, yeah. That was a great episode. But we haven't seen each other since then, and that was it'll be two weeks. Uh oh, crazy. Yeah, it's been two weeks. Is that right? No. Yes, it is. Yeah, two weeks tomorrow. Because we skipped. Anyway, whatever. Yeah, no, it has been. Because we didn't see each other last week, and then we saw each other the week before. So that one week, two weeks tomorrow. Oh, whatever.

SPEAKER_02 9:51

Sarah.

SPEAKER_00 9:52

Whatever, we skipped a fucking week. I I was gonna say I missed it. Um, but never mind. No, I did. I like I it was like I feel so out of the loop of what's going on. I know, and so much has happened. Actually, not very much has happened in my actual life, but I've been watching a lot of racing. Yeah. I mean the tour. Do you want a tour? Tour. Um, do you want to hop into bike stuff? Sure. Immediately. Sure. Well, biggest news, I would say. Hmm, where do I want to start? Elephant seals. Um, that's where I'd like to start. Okay, you go. So we were just on a road trip because I wanted Apple to go see the ocean. And she did, and she did in fact like it. She's she learned semi-quickly to stop drinking the salt water. She did have the shits the most of the trip. Um, but the whole goal of this trip was to like go take this old dog to like see and do something she hasn't done before. I know. I was telling a friend that you were on this trip, and they I could tell by the way she was texting, she was like beating around the bush, and I was like, oh no, Apple's not, Apple's not dying great. Like she wasn't like diagnosed with cancer. No, she's she's doing excellent. And in fact, it just was I was commenting on that. I was like, how I'm so glad that we did that trip because she's in, I mean, she's 12 and a half, but she's doing so well. Yeah, she's and she totally enjoyed it. Like it was it was exceptional. Um, there are a couple of key takeaways. Have you ever seen an elephant seal? They're huge. Oh, wait, did you see the one that's going viral? Yes, yes, of course I did, of course I did. No, did you see it in person? Well, no, it's in Tasmania. Oh, I thought it was in I thought it was like Neil? Neil the seal? Yeah. No, that's in Tasmania. Oh, you should. I thought it was in uh Santa Barbara. But there's um same thing. This spot is like one of the two, ah fuck, I'm gonna screw it up. Whatever. Elephant seals are are there and they're like molting all of their skin. They just lay I the guide, there was like a guide that was you could just like go see these elephant seals flopped out on the beach. Um, you know, like you can just go see them whenever you want. And um, but then there's also like a volunteer like parks and rec guide that hangs out there and you can ask a bunch of questions. So of course I was like, hey, I have so many questions. They're incredible. Have you seen one in real life? What were the questions? Oh, Sarah, I went through everything. I was like, is that pee is it's pea orange? Why is it orange? What is that? And he was like, Well, it's a lot of hemoglobin and blah blah blah. Like we got into all of the things, and then one of the cooler things about like so they all like What's your favorite elephant seal fact that you learned? Um, the reason they like flop together isn't because necessarily like they don't know why. They don't totally know why, but what they think it is, because you you see that they all like lay on top of one another, they think that it's because of the pressure that like when they're in their like hunting season, they dive down so deep, and that like pressure that they feel in the ocean like is associated with something good. So then when they like flop together on the beach, it's because it's like associated, but they don't like they're all like real, like ha have you listened to that? Have you ever heard what an elephant seal sounds like? No, do it. Okay, think about the most disgusting guttural nope clogged toilet worst fart poop you've ever had, and then put it in like a microphone and like it is at one point I was like, I'm gonna throw up. This is quite disgusting. Um, I loved them so much. And then I was talking to this guy about all the things, and he was like, Where are you visiting from? And I was like, Oh, you know, and and he was like, uh, I'm from Durango. Yeah. No way. It was great. We had a whole Durango to elephant seal pipeline. We talked to him for such a long time. I was like, Jeff, do you have any questions? And he was like, Do you have any sunscreen? Where did we want to go for lunch? Are you done yet? Um incredible, truly the best. And then Winco. And Winco. Yep, we hit Winco. We hit a Trader Joe's, we did Jeff got so much stuff from Winco. We are so stocked up. All of our jars are very full of like grains. Did I just get the extra jelly beans, or did you No, that was a purposeful, that was all for you. Hannah walked in with jelly beans, huge bag, big bag of jelly beans, and we had just talked about the snacks that I want to bring to labor, and I was like, jelly beans. There you go. That's perfect. Uh but yeah, we had a great trip. Um, what did it smell like? Um, downwind, Jeff was like, we were really lucky because they smell disgusting. Um, but we were downwind of them. No, downwind would be bad. We we're upwind of them. Yeah. Yeah, we were upwind of them. Um, but in January, when they do their mating, um, he said that there can be anywhere between two and three thousand of them on this beach. Gnarly. I have to go. I'll go. I sounds unbelievable. He said, yeah, you like go early and all of these like crazy documentarians are there like filming. I mean, because it's unbelievable, and they're all having their babies and it's. Anna just had a new lease on life, elephant seal. Jeff was like in the grocery store, and he was like, he asked me a question. He texted me and asked me a question because it was so hot we had to like stay in the car with Apple with the AC on. And I was like, oh, sorry, I was just looking at videos of elephant seals. Like, I'm yeah, I got hooked on it. She's in. I'm in. And the meme that comes up in my head is it's always you're autistic, never thank you for the all of the facts about elephant seals. They're incredible. I'll incredible animals. I'll show you some of my videos, all of my videos that I took. I think you're just connected to seals because Apple looks like one. Well, somebody I had a few different people I like posted some videos and they were like, Oh, I thought that was Apple. Honestly, when I saw the seals and smelled them, ugh, uh, I was like, Oh, Apple really does look like a seal. She really does look like a seal. And we got at one point, uh, I feel like this whole trip, for whatever reason, we were always like, Fuck, do you have a poop bag? Fuck, do you have a poop bag? Um, had like emergency poop right on the beach. Like, ugh. And there were a lot of people. Like it was and uh because she drank the salt water. She drank the salt water, didn't have a bag. Jeff, quick thinking, love him for this. Kelp. He used a whole wad of kelp and then just held it in his hand. He picked up the poop, held it in his hand, and walked all the way to the trash can like that. Smart. Poop kelp. Poop kelp. Oh, and then you got it on your hand. And then I had another poop bag incident where the poop bag had holes on both ends. And I was like, that's so weird. Her poop is so warm. Bag's so slimy. Ew. It was horrible. Great trip though. Really fun trip. Had a great time. I'm just disappointed you you didn't stay in the clown hotel. Fuck no. The clown hotel was that I always think I I have this memory that is incorrect uh that Dylan had to stay there. Danny stayed there. Oh, really? Yeah, because I posted about it and Danny was like, stayed there, been there. Actually, that is not surprising. Of course you did. Yeah. Freak. Anyway, that's that's all I've been up to. I've never been to Yosemite. That was cool. Or as our friend Aaron pronounced it. Yosemite. Yosemite. Yosemite was sick. A lot of oh, my car died. But yeah, we had a we had a one of the days. Did you run it out of oil again? No, I sure didn't. Um it was actually Jeff's fault. He uh he left the lights on when we went and paddled. And when we got back, the battery was dead. And then but then it like wouldn't it was a whole thing. But my car did great. And my battery, I did not need to replace the battery. It was just because he left the lights on. Yeah. Anyway, what have you been up to? Oh god. Honestly, just nothing. Really? I mean, Dylan has basically built an entire studio. Yep. Um, actually, I cleaned our sauna. Good job. Uh well, it looked like it was about to rot. Like the wood looked like, uh, we fucked it up. Anyway, I had like the power tools going because it's just been so hot. It's been hot. It's hot right now. It is hot right now. I've never felt your house this hot. It feels hot. I know it is hot. And you're so pregnant. So you're full term now. Yeah, I'm almost 38 weeks.

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Wow.

SPEAKER_00 18:20

So what do you feel like? Um, I wake up and I feel like I'm really ready to have a baby because I'm really sick of being pregnant. Are you? And I also just like really want to see what's in there. I was like, is it you're really sick of being pregnant or because you're like ready to be able to do that? Like it truly equal parts right now. Yeah. Mainly because the only takeaway is or like the only the only reason I'm not more excited is because I'm like I'm not nervous about I mean I am a little bit nervous about the labor, but like uh I mostly I'm like, oh my god, our lives are gonna be so different. They're gonna be so different. Yeah. So but I'm also like How are you not nervous about the labor? I was literally just heard the last 30 minutes of that and was like all right. Think about for the last 10 months, you have been in a different body than yours that is getting heavier, your feet hurt more. So far, I can absolutely relate. I know this feeling of doing it for two years. And then in the last two months, everything like your face is getting more swollen, your arms and hand like no rings anymore, your body is just uncomfortable and not yours, and then it's getting more painful. Yeah, uh-huh. I still can absolutely relate. But then you have a uh an end date that could be tomorrow, and you're like, I could feel different. I I'm gonna have to go through some shit to get there, but I'm gonna feel different after that. So, like you're gonna feel so different. What about the like baby side of things? Like, what have you been thinking about with like having a baby? A lot. Like what? Well, I'm just like not an infant person. Like when people offer to let me hold infants, I say, Oh, there's so no, thank you. Oh no, no, please no. Yeah, I'm just not a I mean, I'm really excited to have our own baby. And then when I think about like Dylan and I being parents together, I'm super like actually, we went camping with um Dylan's cousin Tilly and my friend, um, who's also pregnant two days ahead of me. Yeah. And has a two and a half year old who's a a feral. A feral two even this feral two and a half year old, I was like, oh, it's so cool to get to like show this fresh little human camping things and even uh amidst like the meltdowns and the you know, whatever, just how exhausting it looks to chase a toddler everywhere. Um, it is super cool.

SPEAKER_01 21:03

Yeah.

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And then it's mixed in with like there's been a lot of like bike racing stuff that's happened, and it's kind of the same feeling that's that weekend um a couple weeks ago where like there was a lot of bike racing, and um I just was like kind of sad that like I feel like that's behind me now a little bit. So like it's I just don't know what my life is gonna look like at all, which I feel like any new I feel like from zero to one kid, like zero kids to one kid, yeah, big jump. Huge. I know I keep I'm having a hard time you uh with a baby. I'm having an easier time like I was telling Jeff, I was like, I can't even picture her holding a baby. I haven't held a baby. It it is gonna be but then I can picture you with like a toddler. Like I can see that so much easier. It's just this baby phase is gonna be really interesting. I mean, it's probably I do the things, but I I do the thing in my head. I picture not worst case scenario. Like, I just in my head, I'm like, this is gonna be the hard like even with the trimesters, I'm like, this is gonna be the worst one. This is and then I'm like pleasantly surprised. I like I do the that for just most things. And then I like being pleasantly surprised. So like for labor, I'm like, this is gonna be the hardest thing I've ever done, which probably will be true. I think that might be true, yeah. Um and I'm definitely not picturing like worst case scenario with labor because I think that that's not productive at all, and it just fuels a lot of unnecessary or unproductive anxiety. Right. Right. Um the other morning I woke up and I was like, okay, I'm ready for the baby to be here. And Dylan was like, Okay, I'm not. And I was like, even just now, I was like, are you ready? And he was like, I'm not as ready as she is. I feel like I can wait a little bit longer. Totally. It was the first time I was like, Oh yeah, your life, I mean, it has changed, but Dylan's life really hasn't changed that much. In some ways, our life kind of got better because we don't have to do all this stressful travel and stressful bike racing for him, and yeah, la la la. But my life kind of got shittier. Yours changed immediately. Yeah. His has changed slightly, but only anticipatory. I mean, Dylan's been extremely involved. Like yes. Yeah, like he's not like out, but I was like, oh yeah, of course. If I were in your shoes, like I would want to wait a little. But I mean, he's like also excited. Like, we're just excited to meet whatever's in here. I'm okay. Okay, we'd see, yeah, we did. We uh I ended up having to get uh an ultrasound yesterday. Everything's fine, but uh I learned that anyway, I had to go get an ultrasound, and uh the only thing that the ultrasound tech kept saying, um, she was like, Wow, this baby has a lot of hair on its head. Did she say on its head? Yes, because I'm like, where's the hair? You are in fact having a puppy. I know I told Hannah, she's like, maybe you are having a puppy, which kind of has been my dream all along. It's been mine too. What if I just pop out a golden retriever? I think that'd be great. I think that'd be 100% golden retriever. Which is so you come up with like a safe word with Arduola Kelly for uh like it okay. A safe word? Yes. For epidural. So I I basically you go through like you have to check mark all this stuff with your birth plan. Like, do you want an epidural? Do you want fentanyl? Do you want fentanyl's an option? Yes. Sick. Get out of a fentanyl baby. Um, do you want nitrous oxide? Do you want us to ask you if you want these things? And so, but it's like this, I mean, we've had hours of conversations about this. But to me, I mean, if you're having a quote normal labor that's progressing normally and you do have the choice, I don't, I I like said, my like my plan is to try to go unmedicated for a number of reasons. Like, I one, the thought of having numb legs freaks me out. Yeah. And like, um, it can make pushing longer, and I want to minimize that. Anyway, blah blah blah. But I know Dylan and I, like, just from bike racing and just how I am, I'm like, I don't want anyone to even ask me if I want an epidural, as long as I don't need one. Like, this is just yeah, the first goal is like having a healthy baby and healthy me. So I just want to say that. But like, um, like, don't ask me. It's also mental. And then I'm also not like having them tell me like how dilated I am, because that's all I'm saying. Yeah, but like at any point. You don't want anyone to I don't understand them not asking you about the epidural. Like, you know, it's an option. You know that it's an option, but like I think when they're like, it's just in the other room, like we can get like it, it's like a whole it's a whole thing. So like they have to there's only one person in Durango that can do them, so they have to call them. Um then you have yeah, isn't that crazy? Um, but it the reason that that's like What happens if they call out sick? I think there's I don't know. Crazy. I think sometimes you're just so in the that's why you have a safe word, because you'll you'll be yelling, like, give me the drugs, give me the drugs. And then unless you say like golden retriever. Is golden retriever your safe word? Yeah, that's what Kelly came up with because she has a golden retriever, and she was like, You sounded disappointed when Norman was 13% golden retriever. But anyway, it's like Huh, okay, that's interesting. I think you're just it can like disrupt the like focus, and like it's harder to say no to things or like it's easier to say yes to things versus saying that you want something. Totally. Yeah. And so that's why they say, like, there's a box on there that says, like, do you want and like sometimes if I'm like, okay, they're suggesting it, so there's something that means that they want me to get this. But sometimes with like traditional like hospitals, nurses and obs will want you to get the epidural because it can progress things faster. And they kind of want to get you out of there. Yeah, it turns out it still is a business. It's a business, which is and like there's like a whole thing with like C-section rates. Luckily, our hospital has a really low C-section rate. So anyway, it can all just kind of lead in to the next thing. But sometimes they're really needed, and Kelly was like, I like if it gets to the point where you need one, we're gonna give you one. Because like I would rather have an epidural than a c-section. I'm so glad you moved that piece of hair. Tell me those things. Well, you were in the middle of a sentence. No, but it was interrupt me. It looked like it was making your eye droopy. Oh, I cut my bangs last night uh with kitchen scissors. Oh, can you tell? Do you want me to answer? Yeah, can you? No, I couldn't tell. Okay, thanks. Are you getting text messages? Apparently, I put my phone on uh do not disturb or airplane. Oh. Well then No, you didn't. You're probably getting it from your computer. Oh. Okay, so what uh what's going on in the in the bike world? Okay, well, the tour got boring. Already did it start? Yep, it started and it's already boring because Pogacha attacked and then got two and a half minutes on Jonas on one stage. Okay. And so now it's basically over. It's over. Okay, great. So But the women's tour starts. Oh it looks so brutal though. The men are racing through this gnarly heat wave in France. I mean, every day they're like, this is the hottest day the tour has ever been. I mean, to the point where like they're gonna have to move the dates of the tour. It's gonna have to be earlier. Um it's been 98 to like 100 each day. But what doesn't make sense to me is like they start the tour at like 1 p.m. Yeah, why don't you just move it to like early morning? I don't know.

unknown 29:15

Crazy.

SPEAKER_00 29:16

Can someone call in and tell us why? I mean, it's it's there's so much that like I'm sure they're per I mean they're worried about like forest fires starting and like the you know the medical having to get pulled off of the tour to go help with the you know. So there's a lot. I mean, global warming is here, people. Yeah, it's toasty. It's toasty, it's been really toasty here. Yeah, um, let's see, what else happened? Uh there were some World Cups, a bunch of Americans won and got podiums. That's mouthbiking. People like what do you want to talk about? Okay, so the big news. So the big news is yesterday Kate Courtney announced that she got signed to FDJ Road Team, which is this French road team, uh World Tour Road, who is Demi Volerings, the Beyoncé of Road Racing. Here we go. Now we're speaking my language. I was going, okay. Yeah, she's like the actually she's more like the Barbie of she's like very blonde, very like pretty, like she's like the Taylor Swift. Got it. Yeah, she's like Taylor Swift of World Tour Road. Who is who is the who's the Taylor Swift of Demi Volering. She's the one who signed, I think, with this team, FDJ. Okay. FKJ. F what? FKJ. It's a French Kiwi Juice. It's a French Kiwi Juice? Yeah. Oh, well this team is juice. It's a band band? I don't know. Whatever. FKJ. Now I'll never remember FDJ. Or is it FJ D having a squirrel? I don't know. Are you? Am I going to labor? I think she's laboring. FDJ. Yeah, FDJ. Okay. Um, it's like the most dominant women's road team, a specialized team. Uh-huh. So it is specialized? Yes. Okay. So Kate, give you some history. Yeah, let's hear it. Because I'm like, does that sound big? I'm not sure. It it's huge. Okay. Huge. So Kate has historically only been a World Cup mountain bike racer. Yes. Um, and very rare, other than Pauline for on Pervo, there's not a like, there's not a ton. Maybe Tom Pitcock, I guess. He won an Olympic gold, so did Pauline. They both race on the road. Blah, blah, blah. Sorry, I'm wrong. There's those two. And now Kate Courtney. There's like oh, there's not very many, there's not a ton of overlap between World Tour Road racers and World Cup mountain bikers. There's a handful of them. Okay. And come at me. I know like there's gonna be a thousand comments. You didn't mention this person, but like there's there are like, I would say maybe ten. You've already established that you don't know anything about bikes. Yes, God. Listener, guy. I really don't. I I read that comment and I don't think he was being mean about it. No, no, he wasn't. He was like, I have learned a lot about birth. No, it was very it was really, really funny. Yeah. I just like took it really personally. Okay, we're not allowed to read the comment. Not until this baby comes out. And a couple months after. Right. Um, so anyway, there's not a ton of like overlap anyway. And the way that the direction that Kate did this, so she started as a World Cup mountain biker exclusively. She's the one she won a world championship very young, has kind of had like a tumultuous few years, blah, blah, blah. And then last year she sort of, oh, she broke her wrist. Okay. Um, and then that in my mind, um, is sort of what set off this chain reaction of her decisions, and she and I were texting about this. Of it's been cool to watch her make these smaller micro decisions that has kind of led to this thing happening in her life. So she had this, she she had a little accident when she was doing some strength training and broke her wrist last year. Right. And then that's what made her refocus her season on Leadville. Okay. And then after Leadville, she set broke the record. She was like, I should do. I mean, it wasn't this simple, but she was like, I think also focused on cross-country marathon worlds, which is oh, not running. I was like, and she runs. I'm sure she could run. I'm sure she could do whatever the hell she wants to do. So anyway, she um she breaks the record at Leadville, she then wins a world championship mountain bike marathon. Then this season she has um a little bit of a kerfuffle with her teammate situation at Cape Epic, as we remember. Right, right, right. Kind of a devastating start. Yep. Um, but truly didn't slow her down, like hopped in some gravel races where she did really well. And then um most recently and notably, she won a ma US Road National Championships. Okay. Oh, sorry, be right before that, she raced in Europe, her first ever road race, and won a stage. Okay. So Kate has done two road races in her professional career. Okay. And she gets a call from arguably the most dominant women's road team in the world. And they're like, Hi Kate Courtney, we would like you to be on our team. And from what she's told me, I mean, we haven't got into details, but like she said, like, when and their whole like marketing thing, when you get that call, you answer and say yes. But logistically, it's a little That gave me the chills. Yeah, totally. I mean, their whole it's been cool. So, like, it's a French team. I mean, I have so many questions for Kate. I'm trying to get her on the pod, which is gonna be challenging. Well, timing's a little weird. I know. I was like, I'm sure you're getting hit up. But anyway. Well, no, not because of her. That wasn't actually what I was thinking. Oh, baby? Yeah. Uh yeah. Baby can wait. Baby waits for Kate. So anyway, Kate used to when she had all of her success early young, she's has historically been unspecialized. Okay. And then she switched to Scott uh after a few years. Um, and then she did her own like privateer thing last year, which was a big deal for like World Cup racer to kind of like do their own thing. Yeah. But it's just like been this really interesting evolution. She was telling me this morning, she was like, it it the decision was clear. Like, you like you say yes when someone offers you a spot on the best because she's because she's focused on 2028 Olympics in LA. She lives in the LA area, born and raised in California, and she wants to make the Olympic road team and race road for the Olympics. Okay. Yeah, can you do all like can you do that if you're on specific T like what are I imagine there are like stipulations? Well, Olympics is really, I'm not even gonna go into the guy was right. I don't know about that. She doesn't know anything about bikes. Um, I do know, like, the LA Olympics is a goal, but like she said in one of her blogs or something or a text to me, I don't know, some form of words, she said, yes, it's a goal. She also understands she has a lot of learning to do, and there's a lot of things that have to fall into place. But the thing about Kate, which I love about her and bike racers and athletes specifically, is like it's really fun, and this is why it's fun to follow athletes and people. You can see their evolution of like what drives them and what's interesting to them and what keeps them motivated. And I was really inspired by all of this happening. Like, I was I told Dylan, I was like, I feel like I signed to FDJ, like watching. You did. I mean, it was like this weird, it was truly like equal parts. Like, I was so excited because I'm like, God, I'm really excited to follow this. Like, it's just something new and different, and like I'm excited for Kate to do this. What kind of what does it mean for her? Like, if what kind of different doors does it open? Like, what what does it actually mean for her? Well, I can't speak for her, of course. Because like I'm not sure. Why is it I I don't understand the hype. One of the things that I have the hardest time understanding in like the bike world is like the hierarchy of or the I like which races are a bigger deal. Like, I yeah, all of them have the same fucking name, and they're all they all have like world something or other in them. And I don't understand how to world important in the title, it's the highest level of that genre. Okay. There's different higher than the Olympics? Olympics is yeah, to some, the Olympics, I would say the Olympics sort of for general population, for gen pop, for people who don't know much about cycling, the Olympics and the Tour de France are like at the same level. Right. The and I hate to say it, but I'm just gonna like I don't believe this. The men's tour and the Olympics are on the same like level of like global recognition. Yeah. I would say the Tour de France may be more. Like I see more men's to like world tour, like Tour de France. That's probably like gets the most eyeballs in terms of like if you're obsessed with cycling. But I'm gonna take a step back. Okay. Road, mountain, gravel, like cyclocross. People say that those categories. Categories, genres, if you will. Genres. Those flavors of bikes. Yes. Um, and and each of those has their own hierarchy of like like for road, world tour is the top level. Okay. So world tour is the top. Then you have like world championships in each genre. Okay. And that is like those are run by the UCI. Okay. The governing body. So is the world tour, I guess. And then you have grand tours, which sorry, the Tour de France is like a grand tour. Like those are like the multi-day. That's also part of the world tour. This is confusing. No, it's super confusing. I'm no, I'm I'm totally on your side. I just like once you start, well, once this baby comes, we're gonna be watching a lot of bike racing. So you can come and watch. I'll just watch your baby. Because I find I feel like that's gonna be honestly. Once you like kind of see what's going on and like start like knowing riders, I mean I imagine it's similar to like how people feel about the like uh World Cup. Uh-huh. Yeah. Have you watched any of it? Literally none. But like, have you been following um Holland? I yeah, I am obsessed with it. Like along with the rest of the world. I feel like his sister now. So yes, I know Holland. Did you see Birkin bags? His Birkin bags. And then did you see that raccoon that he came to? Yeah, what the fuck? It was like a taxidermied raccoon holding like a vodka bottle or something. I do love him. Yeah, I was trying to tell Jeff about his Birkin bags, and he was, I was like, you don't understand these bags are like a hundred thousand dollars each. And he was like, Yeah, he makes like half a million a week. Yeah. I was like, oh, okay. Anyway. Yeah, I saw some breakdown of like what uh Ronaldo makes, how much money. Oh, I it's how much nuts. Ugh gosh, I can't remember. I meant I asked Jeff. Really dark. It did get very dark. It's definitely gonna be thundery and rainy in here. Okay, so you take the space on? All you need to know about the like the reason that this is so monumental. Wait, one last thing about um and about Holland. Uh apparently, like, he has this like romance with the guy from England, uh Bellingham. Um, and I just saw this thing that was like cleated rivalry. Yes, please. That's great. Now talk to me about bikes. Okay, the reason it's so cool is because each now, especially with women's cycling, before like you could have the same what like Marianna Voss has like one. I feel like we're doing this in the dark. Should we turn a light on? I don't know. I feel like maybe. Sorry, Lily. It's actually in the dark. Can you still see me? Kind of. My eyes are having a hard time adjusting, but it's not as hot. Just kidding. I did my uh I got like a sun rash on my feet. That's as close as I got to a tan. Ugh. And my neck got a little sunburned. When you were talking about mosquitoes, I also was so itchy and mosquito-y. And I was like, my crow's feet. And I was like, Botox? Oh, Botox. No, just big red welt. Yeah. Mine went away pretty fast, but so itchy. This is like day four. We went backpacking and I wear a Tyvek suit when it's really buggy. Yeah. They're incredible because they're super late. It was yeah, but it was like chili-ish. Um, but yeah, I wear a head net and a full Tyvek suit. That's great. And it's amazing because then I don't get absolutely annihilated. It looks super cool too. It looks like I'm doing some kind of chemistry. Definitely look like I'm in like breaking bad. You looked like um, no, that oh, that documentary Ring of Fire or Fire of Love about those Vulcanists. Yeah. I didn't see that. But do they wear that? Tyvek suits? It's not Tyvek suits like some. If you get absolutely destroyed by mosquitoes and you're backpacking and you're looking for a lightweight option that isn't full of DEET, Tyvek suit. I wouldn't have I was so hot. The thought of putting that on my hot little pregnant body. Oh, it's raining. Thank God. Um anyway. Bikes. Bikes. There's just the world tour. Just think world tour. Okay. Blah blah blah. So yeah, it's important. Okay, so you just have to think of like the timeline. Like the reason that world tour and road specifically are so huge is that those things have existed uh since the 1900s. Like there it's just like a legacy thing. Okay. So there's that. Okay. Mountain biking is newer. So Kate Courtney started in mountain biking. She then gets this call from the the biggest, most accomplished team with the biggest, most one of the more accomplished budgets. Budgets and riders. Yeah. Demi. Like you I imagine she's making a bunch of money. I think Demi they haven't ever like confirmed. Confirmed this, but it was like rumored that she had the first million dollar contract for a female, which is annoying because men get signed for like six million. Of course. So annoying. Anyway. Um, but she's big deal. Yeah. And this team is fucking sick. It's a cool thing. What makes it cool? Uh like they just the environment, the riders, like you can just tell, like their kits look cool. They're like the black ones with the blue, and um, it's a specialized team, which I'm not saying that that's why it's sick, but like just it's yeah. Adds to the sickness. Yes. Sick.

unknown 44:34

Sick.

SPEAKER_00 44:34

Um, and then they have Nike as a sponsor. So when does she start doing road things? Is she in a tour? So I don't, it hasn't been I'm curious. I would be very surprised only because Demi, because road is a team sport, and Demi is like, she's won the tour a few years ago, and she hasn't won it since, but she's like their GC writer. She's like the one that the whole team will be working for. And this year. Do you know what GC stands for? Grand Calendar. Do you do you remember what it actually is? Uh oh God. I don't. So I'm Oh my god, no, you can't ask me that shit when I'm pregnant.

unknown 45:15

No.

SPEAKER_00 45:16

Nothing. I I also have nothing because it's now ingrained in my brain. No, I'm gonna this is gonna be an awkwardly long pause, but I have to um it is grand calendar. No, it's not. No, it's not. I don't know what it is, but I know it's not grand calendar. Grand classification. Phew. Is it grand? General. General. Okay, there we go. Oh, okay. See, she knows so much about bikes. Yeah, fucking. I don't even know what you were talking about. Oh my god, I was like, not again. It's happening again. General classification. Yeah. G C. Okay.

unknown 46:04

Jesus.

SPEAKER_00 46:06

Jesus Christ. JC. G C. JC, JC. Jesus with a G with the G. Boom. Jesus with a G. Oh my god. It's a thousand degrees in here and now it's humid. And it's pitch black. We are recording this. Do we we need like night lights? I think maybe. Oh, that changed a lot. Oh, wow. Honestly, get some sunglasses. It's too bright in here now. Sarah turned on the little donor light from Ikea that puts off like one what? I don't know if she'll be in the tour. That would be crazy. Because she's done two road races. I hope she's in it. I bet she is. So okay. Also, I'm wondering. When does it start? Two weeks ago, on the same team, FDJ. Uh-huh. One of their clim their star climber, um, who I'm pretty sure ended up with the polka dot jersey last year, the climber's jersey in the tour. Um, she announced that she's pregnant. Like, kind of like, we were not planning on this, but we're pregnant, so we'll see you in a year kind of thing. At least Chabby. Is uh is Kate Courtney a good climber? Yeah. So I'm wondering if like she uh maybe she's oh my god, it is raining buckets. It is dumping. Well, so the fires are gone. Thank God Dylan finished the roof. This is gonna be such an annoying episode. Sorry. But it's like you can't look out the window and I'm sorry. It's just been so hot and so dry. Like, this is really I can't tell you how happy this is making me. Do you know though, because of the humidity, the nights aren't as cool? Yeah, I feel that. In fact, by our tiny little fan that we had to clip to the windowsill, or as no one calls it, a window seal. Okay, Cervex. What did uh your doula today was saying something about like uh talking about not finding out how dilated you are, and she was like, Cervex, you don't even know what it is. And I was held my tongue, but I was like, She really fucking doesn't. She doesn't even know what it's called, she doesn't even know how it's spelled, she doesn't know how to say it. Oh my god. You are correct, she really doesn't know. I don't, you know, I don't. She was talking about us going on a hike. So my job during Sarah's uh labor is like early labor to distract. Yes. Yeah. So and uh your doula was like, yeah, just like go on a hike, go up unanimous. Wait, pause. What? So she told she was saying that to me and Dylan before you got there, and I was like, Hannah is not gonna want to go on a hike with me. Not because you can't hike, I just felt like you were gonna be too nervous. Well, I have good reason because every hike that we've ever been on, it's not just in your pregnancy, we've been over this. Every hike we've ever been on, you push it too far. And I feel like the consequence of pushing it too far when you're in active or early labor is having a baby on the trail. And so, no, I don't really want to go on a hike with you. I'll go for a fucking walk around the neighborhood, but I'm not going and hiking up Animus so that you can have your baby at the top of the mountain. I'm not prepared to do that. I'm not ready to turn. I'm not, I don't, I don't want to I don't want to see your butthole. I also don't want you to see my butthole. I know it the she was talking about like all the different positions you can labor in, and I was like, well, the fuck is that? Um and Sarah's main thing is about like she was like, well, but then if I do that one, like my butthole's on like real like grand display. I just feel like it's so and and I know everyone who is listening to this podcast who's had a child is probably like, you're not gonna care about your butthole. Yeah. You're only gonna care that it doesn't rip.

unknown 49:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 49:52

I just thought it was a fun opportunity to bejazzle it. Here's my my I bet you'd have the most success laboring of all of the positions that she was showing, uh, which was like uh you didn't even see half of them. I what yeah, you said that you were on the toilet facing? Yeah, totally crazy. Um, I think you're gonna have a lot of success with the squat bar she was talking about. Yeah. That's where I'm like, oh, I can picture Sarah just like it's super weird. I mean, I and I get it, like, and now I've learned a lot about birth, but you have to like sometimes you have to be strapped up to a lot of stuff if you have an IV, if you have an epidural. If you have an epidural, you can't do any of it. You can't stand up. No. Anyway, so I get it. Like, for modern birth, why you have babies laying on your back or sitting up in the bed. But I feel like the thing that would really work is gravity. Seems like it might help. Yeah. Which is the position that you were like, yeah, that one seems good. I honestly probably think it's gonna be the butthole and display one. All fours? Yeah. You're gonna shave your butthole. Yeah, well, like, what do you do? I wonder if that's included with my doula. We could go get you waxed before um that could be distracting. She's like, just all you're all you have to do is distract her. I'm like, Got it. I got something that'll really distract you. It might send me into life. I bet you have a rule though. You probably can't. You probably can't want to have, but are you gonna shave? I mean, I hadn't thought about it. Well, you should think about it. Your butthole's gonna be on display. I want one of those jewels that people get get for their cats. We've talked about that. We'll work on that. Maybe that's our arts and craft. Yeah. I think that's a butt club. Honestly, no, I can't I can't see anything. You can't reach. Well, when have you ever shaved your butthole when you've seen it? That's a good point. Never stopped any female ever. There are ways. Sorry, okay, Courtney. Um, what are we talking about with her? So anyway. What's crazy though is that yeah. This podcast is either really good for people with ADHD or really bad. So it's crazy though, because she's going, and that was not a cut, that was just me going straight into Kate, back into Kate. She had to, I'm assuming, break some contracts. Cause it's which I have confirmed. It was that was a stressful part of it. Because like if you're a privateer athlete, or if you have she basically had a different job, and she just got a call from a slightly different uh uh employer that is a cool new motivating experience that she a hundred and ten percent made the right call to switch. Like she was just trying all this new stuff, and like Road has kind of been this thing that she's never done before. She definitely was not like wanting to do gravel yet. So blah blah blah. All of her sponsors, every single one of them. Yeah, she's on a new team, so she's not doing the thing that like we've talked about, like Axel and Rosa, who have like split road and gravel contracts with the same world tour team. So EF with Excel, the pink one, um, and then Canyon Sram is Rosa's with map. Um, and they basically allow these women to race some of the earlier road races. Um, and then they do a big, uh, a very gravel heavy calendar as well, which is a cool thing. Like it's a cool way to support, you know, road riders and gravel racers, which I'm hoping that kind of catches on more and more. Because I think it's a cool way to like split support. Yeah. Um she can't do that. But that's not this situation, no. This is an all or nothing. Yeah, I mean, maybe they'll let her like go do some gra like I'm seeing more and more like road racers are dabbling in gravel, which is cool. Graveling. Graveling dabble. Graveling dabbles. Um, but yeah, this it seems like like she's full on, like she had to step away from like allied and sram. She's been a SRAM athlete, I think, for her whole life. Um, and she was with special she's back on specialized again. It would suck to have to like cut all of those ties. But here's the thing, and this is what I was like texting, I was like, I get like I very much understand that. Like we care a lot about our sponsors, like they do a lot for us, we work really hard for them. You know, you have these contracts as an athlete. Um, but then yeah, it's like it's a it's a shitty thing to like you don't you don't break contracts. But this is when I was like, listen, Kate, I was like the industry probably is like, yeah, get it. Yes, and I think that I I haven't confirmed any of this. I'm just speculating. But like I'm assuming some of her sponsors were like bummed because they, you know, don't have they don't they don't have her. Yeah. Rafa.

unknown 55:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 55:12

She's not on Rafa anymore. She's not on Oakley. She's not on Jiro. But like Is it like so this F but really like Srim FKJ? They so they have their own sunglasses. They have their own oh, they do their own road. Road is a different animal. Like, road is very, very different. Like you you sign to a road team, you're on their shit. And then you don't have no any other I think from what it looks like, she well, she still has Red Bull. She still has a Red Bull helmet. Okay. Like Tom Pitcock is on his team and he's the only one with a a Red Bull helmet. But then you have teams that are the whole team is sponsored by Red Bull, like Red Bull, Bora. You know, I was thinking about Red Bull recently. Tell me. Um and how yucky it is. Well, I was like crazy that there are like all of these cool athletes that are sponsored by Red Bull. Do they sell a lot of like not them, not the athletes. Red Bull is a company. Yeah. People still drinking Red Bull? People drink the shit out of Red Bull. Really? Athletes do. Which I thought for when I see an athlete on Monster, I'm like, they're not drinking Monster. But Red Bull, they drink really. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I was just thinking about that. Especially in the World Cup. Like, those guys are slamming, sorry, mountain bike racing. Yeah, okay. They're slamming one of those before the the freaking World Cup. Yeah. Crazy. Um, any like it tastes like Flintstone vitamins to me. Oh, I like Flintstone vitamins. Red Bull, hit us up. You can sponsor this podcast any day. Honestly, I haven't had a Red Bull in a long time, so I'd be like, Anyone have a Red Bull sponsorship? Oh, yeah, Payson. Yeah, a couple people. Uh hello. Um Hilur. Hilir. Fine. I honestly I love Red Bull. I'll drink Red Bull for this pod. Could you imagine us? Could you imagine this baby splitting a Red Bull? Oh my god. How insane this would be. You think we're bad now? We're not drinking any caffeine right now. Zero. There's no caffeine in my scheme. This is pure just ADHD. Could you imagine just like raw dog?

SPEAKER_02 57:18

H D H D D H D H D.

SPEAKER_00 57:25

Anything else you wanted to say about Kate? As I'm ready to move on. Okay. That's it. Okay, great. What else do you have? All of the sports that you can do. Well, no, I have to think about it. Oh, okay. Well, you didn't write anything down. No, I'm trying this new thing because I'm like, sometimes I feel like I have to get through the list and then it takes me out of like the conversation with you. Oh, sorry. I'm telling you that's my experience. Oh, okay. I'm sorry. I it does take you out of the conversation when you pull up your fucking computer. Yeah, but sometimes we need a fact checker. Well, we always need a fact checker. Oh, I saw Abby Hall. Oh yeah. That was crazy. Okay, we were extraordinaire. And podcaster extraordinaire. Yeah. Love her. So I later found out that we did talk about her finishing. Oh, that's what I was gonna talk about is the Hard Rock. Yeah. Um so Dylan and I decide to go camping this weekend in Silverton. And the spot that we like to camp is now, I know, two hours away from our house. Yeah. Up this gnarly four-wheel drive road that I usually train on for Leadville. Um, and the Hard Rock goes by this section. And um, this year they changed where the aid stations were, unfortunately. And so one of the aid stations took over where we were planning on camping. So then we had to drive even further. And like I felt like just riding in our truck, like how jostly it was, and I have no core right now. I was like out of breath, and you're going up an elevation, and I'm you know, 37 and a half weeks pregnant. Yeah, I've been listening to you huffing and puffing just like you had to re-plug in the headphone things because I because I did it wrong. And you were just like, I didn't want to call you out on it. Ah, no, that's not true. I just have to wait until the pod. I can feel it. I know that was like one of the things they were like, well, the baby might be like in a better position now, like down the baby shoot. And they were like, is it easier to breathe? And I was thinking, like, no. No, no. So sorry, baby stuff. Um, with the position that it's in now, because they were able to see on the ultrasound. Is there any fear of it flipping around and being breached? I guess in a good position. I did ask that, and they said that chances of that happening are low. Oh, good. Yeah, great. But it's pretty much been head down. Well, it was like head to the side. Yeah. And now it's like head down. Head down. I mean, I guess eye on the crown. Yeah. It still could like flip sunny side up, baby. Oh. I didn't even think about that. Yeah. Okay. Um, so hard rock. So anyway, we're driving up there, Hard Rock 100. Okay. Which is like it's one of the triple crown of running. So like Western was one. Yep. Or UTMB was one in France. UTMB? Yeah. Oh, I was like mountain bike? Good. Yeah. Utah mountain bike. Good girl.

unknown 1:00:30

Good.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:34

You're doing great, good job. I was thinking that. You're doing great.

unknown 1:00:41

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:42

Hey, Norman. Hi. Okay, so it's one of the crown jewels. Yep. Okay. One of the butt jewels. So it's the third, I guess. Unless UTMB. Anyway, it's one of them. So Tara, our Durango gal, um, she raced Western a couple couple of weeks ago. Yeah. Uh, and then she just raced the hard rock. So is Abby racing? Abby was not out there racing. Okay. Also, she was in the craziest outfit. I didn't, we drove past her because Dylan and I had to drive through the feed zone to get like to figure out where the hell we were camping. And I see this like skinny fit. I mean, there was ever all of them were like really skinny and fit. Everyone looks really skinny and fit to me right now, to be honest. Is that right? Santa Claus looks skinny and fit. Because you're like, ah, it's up for you. You you feel like home. You look comfortable. No, just skinny. No, you look skinny and fit. You always look skinny and fit. Anyway, Abby was on the side of the road in this, like, I didn't know it was her. I honestly thought she was a dude because she had this like mullet thing. And runners wear weird shit. They're like, they're like the theater kids of athletics in my mind. Okay. Got it. You know? Yeah, totally. And so there were like a lot of weird outfits. There was like a lot of lights going on because it was like starting to like be sunset and um were like watching all these crews like. Well, they have to try and make running fun. Oh my god.

unknown 1:02:10

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:11

These people have done it though. Like it looked, it was very fun to like hang out and watch, um, not do the sport. And I can attest, like, I have watched from the same place a couple of years ago when I very much was not pregnant, and it still didn't look appealing to me. Yeah. So anyway, I see Abby on the side. Well, she came up and introduced herself, and she's like, It's Abby. And I was like, Oh my god, because she had a mullet wig on. Yeah. And this like green onesie thing with like printed photos of people like piggybacking each other. It was really funny. But it was really, really fun to see her and like get to debrief, you know, a very, very brief debrief of um her western states. Right, which, you know, when we had talked about it, we talked about that she had finished, but she did not. I didn't know that. Yeah, totally. Well, I I only found out after I like read her post about it. Sound like she had a rough day. I told her. I was like, oh my god, we honestly on the podcast, we said you finished. In our worlds, you did. Honestly, in our world, you won. I basically said. As far as I'm concerned, she did in fact win. I was like, listen, it's it is so not that I've really experienced this much, but it's very hard to go into a race when you're the defending champion of that race. Truly, I haven't done that hardly anything. Have you ever experienced that before? Have you?

unknown 1:03:29

Nope.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:30

Um, I did get a message from one of my employees because I was not at the shop, and she was like, somebody named Abby stopped by. She was a guest at the on the podcast. Um, she had huge calves. I was like, Oh, I'm so bummed I missed her. But yeah. Such yeah, amazing calves. Yeah, I was like, well, honestly, and I was driving, so I had Jeff texting for me. Well, he read that and I was like, I'm sorry, what did it say? Um, but otherwise I would have been like, well, it's because she's like an incredible, like ultra runner. Like, oh my god. Well, so okay. So I was really excited to watch Hard Rock initially before my pregnancy and before the season started because um I almost say Kate Courtney. Uh Courtney to Walter. Uh-huh. Also Kate Courtney. Who's set multiple records? She like set records on the triple crown years ago at Western, at Hard Rock. Like, she's basically the goat of running. Um, and she is like a little billy goat. She just prances about those mountains. She was gonna be there, and then Katie Scheid, um, who's injured, who's very good friends with Abby, she was crewing for Abby at Western, but she's been injured this whole season. She also listens to the podcast, so shout out. Shout out. Um, but I was really, really excited before she got injured because her and Courtney were gonna like face off at Hard Rock. So I've like been planning on going to watch Hard Rock since I found out they were both gonna be running and racing against each other. And running seems very different when you're racing against someone than biking. Like biking kind of feels like I mean, these women are definitely like these runners are certainly cutthroat, but it doesn't seem as like I don't want to say bitchy because like that has like a negative like female connotation because like men can be bitchy too. Hell yeah. Men are honestly the the bitchiest. I totally agree. So, but I just I don't know, there's something like more like in the spirit of competition in running that I I felt like in in a positive way. Like they're not like there's a lot of cheering each other on, but like doing it so like everyone gets better together. I feel like in ultra running. Marathon, I think, is different. Okay. Marathon running seems kind of like road racing and gravel racing a little bit and like the cut throatedness. I it's so interesting. You feel that way about gravel racing that it's got the like It is the last few years. It's gotten scary. Because you're not in it. Uh but like I I mean, I've definitely felt like that for sure. It's also like dangerous and scary and whatever. Running or gravel? Gravel. Yeah. But I don't know. Bike cycling just is different with its intensity. Anyway. So how did the race go? Okay. So uh we see we're looking for a camp spot, and I get like the competition, like the competitive thing with like finding a camp spot. And I get like, I get like really like I hate it. Anxiety, like a lot of anxiety. It's like an Easter egg hunt. Like I feel like I have to beat other people to this spot and like, oh, we should have gotten just the I'm always like, let's just get the first one. I don't feel like you're that way because we camped together where I'm like, this one's fine. You're like, let's just keep going and see if we find it. Okay, I have always been like both things. I'm in like a cherry, I'm in a shitty car, right? And like I'm always worried about the tires fucking popping. Like we're always in Jeff's like minivan scraping away. And it's like, this one's fine. I'm already the same situation. I was in the this tr this truck and we're just wobbling about uh Tilly, Dylan's cousin, who later met up with us, who's also very pregnant. She was like, I was trying to explain to Jimmy, her husband, that I felt like if you were holding a bag of jello with a fish inside of it.

unknown 1:07:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:31

I was like, yeah, that's actually really accurate. Yeah, but I was just like, I was like, Dylan, let me out of the car. So like he we were like kind of stressed out. There's like one spot to camp, and like the race had taken over it. So I was like, never mind, I don't like the hard rock anymore. Ready to go home. And so I was like, let me out. And so Norman and I were like walking around, and the roads are so four-wheely that it's faster to walk. Definitely. It's faster for a pregnant bitch to walk around. Yeah. So I'm like walking, and then I like look over, and there are these two old men hobbling down the or like back up to their car, and their car they had just driven off of the road. Like, okay, so Silverton. I don't know. Not a four, not a four-wheeled drive car. It basically could have been a Honda Element. Yeah. Or a Camry. Yeah. Um, so Silverton is like this weird for people who don't know about the hard rock or Silverton, like, it's where people vacation who like to do the like rock crawly stuff. So there's like mostly Jeeps that are tricked, they're like not highway legal jeeps. They're like tricked-out jeeps with like flags and light bars, and then you have those stupid And a lot of rubber ducks. And a lot of rubber ducks. That's a thing with jeeps. That's a thing with jeeps. And then you have like the those we call them fast couches. Because you can you just have these like you can rent them in Silverton now, and they like Razors. Are as yeah, they have those things ripping around. And then you have the tourist that like Googles like how to get to this mine, and they're driving like a car that absolutely shouldn't be up there. I mean, even just like a Subaru, probably like doing those things. There were not very many Subarus up there either. Like it's a lot of trucks and jeeps. Anyway, it was this funny juxtaposition of the scene. Like, this car was teetering on the edge, the door was open, they had made it out, and this group of people were trying to figure out how to get this car out of there because they had driven off the road. So you see these two old guys, they were definitely from out of town, like could barely walk, hobbling to their car, and then here comes Courtney DeWalter, solo. She didn't have any pacers, the woman who's leading the race, she was in third place overall at that point. Yeah. Running with her like wired air like headphones. I could just picture her with like uh the headphones that you get from like on the airplane. Yeah, the ones that you peel apart. Exactly. So she was like running down the road, and these guys I didn't even iPod shuffle. Yeah, she probably had an iPad shuffle. iPad shuffle. She actually just has her iPad, just tucks it under her shorts. Oh my god. Yeah, so she's like running down, and I was like, Go, Courtney! Like she's like, you know, the demi volering of running. Yeah. Anyway, so I'm like cheering my like pregnant ass is like, you know, hanging out. And these guys are hobbling up to their car. Dylan is driving down trying to find a camp spot. It was just like a funny Wow, it does sound really fun. It was like a lot going on. It was actually like I was looking at our calendars and because I was nervous this week. Or grand calendar. Or grand calendar. Um, I was nervous this week about being out of town and worrying about like you going into labor. Um, but then I was like, oh, Sarah has this event. She wants to go to the hard rock. Is it not called the Lead in my brain? I was like, oh, she's going all the way to Leadville this weekend? Oh god, no. And I was like, that seems fucking crazy. No. And I was like, oh, Silverton, okay, that's yeah, that seems less crazy. But I was like, she won't go into labor because she has an event that she wants to go to and she doesn't want to miss it. Correct. And so I felt I felt better about Yeah. The whole time I was like dr I mostly was worried about a fire starting and like getting trapped. Oof. Because that's like terrifying to me. So anyway, it didn't. Yay. And we camped, and then we watched people come through. So I saw Courtney, and then like hours later, we like found a camp spot, met up with our friends, uh, and then I like walked over to like where the aid station was so you could see these runners come through and like connect with their like pacers and aid people, and like there was a crazy I was like watching this one guy came through like pretty early. Like he was doing really, really well. And so I'm assuming that those were like the pros that were the ones that made it like there before uh dark. And this guy, like, he like runs up to his crew and he has just like a simple cotton shirt, and his crew all has like these like it's must have said his name on them. Um, and they have I'm like looking closer, and they all have like these long skirts, the women that are his crew, and there's like one guy off to the side, like maybe filming. It was a very modest setup compared to like Taros, who had like 17 people with pink. Oh, I thought you were saying it was modest, like in what they were wearing. It was modest in what they were wearing. And then I'm like looking closer and they have like a little like head covering on. And I was like, huh. And then he like toodles along and like walks away, and and and then I ran into Abby, and so I'm asking Abby, and she was like, Oh, he's a Mennonite. Yeah, yeah. And I was like, Oh, and there, and then she was telling me that like I think those were like maybe her his sisters, or like I know it was really wholesome and very cute. And then she was saying, like, he's like this really like oh, actually, no, sorry, this was Maggie telling me this, my friend uh Maggie. And she was like, Oh, he's like this like hot Mennonite bachelor, and so all the Mennonite ladies are trying to like set him up because he's like tan with very white teeth and Mennonite, and it's really funny. They're like, We'll crew for you. I'll put my nicest long skirt on. And even show you an ankle. Maybe not. Maybe not, maybe we'll see. We'll see what the wind is doing. You could get lucky. Oh my gosh, the Mennonite Bachelor? What an incredible show. That would be the show I would watch. Let's watch Mennonite Bachelor. Sign me up. Yes, please. So I did. I watched the Mennonite Bachelor go through. But was he hot? Honestly, I couldn't even pick him out of a crowd. I was really distracted. There was so much going on. And that's not what you were looking at. It really wasn't. Especially after being prefaced as the Mennonite Bachelor. I was talking to Abby when he was coming through. So we were both. Because she was like pacing someone, or like her husband was pacing, or maybe her husband was racing. I don't know. Details, you know. We were both very distracted, but really excited to see each other. So, like, but then we both felt bad afterwards. Oh, one of those. Yeah, totally. She was like, Oh my god, I'm so sorry. And I was like, No, I was so sorry. Like I was really unc, I was really hungry too. Like it was dinner time, but I I was really, I really wanted to see Tara come through because I had seen Courtney. Courtney won. Okay. And she broke her own record. I think uh Maggie told me her only her goal, her biggest goal was she just wanted to have a very clean race, meaning like nothing goes through no falls, no like um, yeah, no like issues sleeping, but mainly like no gut. It like I think it's just really impossible to not have any gut issues because I learned, unlike cycling, when you're running and not makes your sphincter loose, it you jostle. It's a lot of it's a you're jostling those turds out, just dropping out of them. I don't think you're I don't think it's solid turds at that point. No, it couldn't be because you're just I mean, Courtney's record setting time for women was 26 hours, and I think she actually was going for 24 hours she wanted to, but she still broke her own record. Yeah, I mean it makes so much sense. Like I think about I think peeing is like one of the most uh inconvenient sorry. I thought you were gonna say a different thing. It makes so much sense. No, it makes so much sense because like peeing is one of the most inconvenient things, and so like uh like at the shop, I'm like, I I really like can't pee right now because like I'm talking to people, so I'll just sit, you know, and I'm like, well, I'm sitting so I don't have to pee. Yeah, and do that all the time, all the time. So like, yeah, if you're on a bike, you know, you're holding your poops in, your poops and your peas. Well, I guess some people are. They're also not on a bike for as long. Like these guys are racing for over 24 hours. Do they all have pooped on their legs? None of them do that you saw. Yeah. Because they get sponged off by their crew, their Mennonites. Right. Um, so I really wanted to see Tara come through, but like what was different about watching Western to Hard Rock is that Western I now know the runners were really close to each other, which is I think kind of unusual in these hundred milers. And the Hard Rock was very different. Like they were the women were all hours apart from each other, like the top three. So I saw this woman Kareth, which I thought people were saying Tara, Tareth. There's Tareth and T Tara and T Careth. Did you just girl? No, Careth. Her name. She was amazing. I like she was just like this little flea of a lady who has two children. I'm trying this new thing where I don't make fun of people's names. You know, because we get canceled. Well, yeah, we definitely get canceled. I know uh and also like they have no control over that.

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Nope.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:54

They have a dumbass parent like me who named them. Yeah, I can't wait to see what you name this baby. Me neither. You too. Me too. Me neither. I need to as well. Can't wait to see. I can't wait to see how much hair it has. I can't wait to get out of this room. I'm sweating. We can end this. We can end this right now. I have to pee, but I'm sitting, so it's okay. What other means do you have? Okay. Other talking points. So I watched that this is our last episode before you have a baby. I feel like I'm gonna really want a podcast after. I think you are too. Yeah, we need to. Guys, we need some sponsors up in this bitch though. I can't keep paying for these. Oh yeah? Yeah. We got a studio to feed and a baby to feed. And a baby to build. And a baby to build. A studio to feed and a baby to build. Um yeah. I yeah, I guess it could be. Any day now. You know what I actually think? I'm not even gonna say it. You think I'm gonna go into August? I definitely do. God damn it! Sorry. I don't think you're gonna be early. I know that most first timers are late, but I just am like, maybe this baby will be as impatient as I am. Maybe. Or maybe it will be trying here to teach you a lesson. And I hate that. I'm sorry, Sarah. It just might be what it what it's here to do. Yeah, I don't I we'll be ready, but I have. Should we open up what's that betting app? Kelshi? Kelshi? I don't know. Kelsey. What? It's like this app that's like you can bet on anything. Let's do it. What color underwear the Mennonite runner had on? What? You could you could just can like make something out of it. That wasn't the part that I was confused on. No. Well, I was giving an example. Well, no, I got that. It was a weird one. Because how would we ever know? I don't know. Um, yeah. I think it's gonna be a little bit I'm so sorry. Well, we did we did do a like bedding pool at the baby shower, so I could pull that chart up. Yeah, pull that chart up. Yeah, I'm hot. I'm just like sorry, I'm sweating. Don't look at me. Are you? Yeah, I am. It sounds really uncomfortable. It is pretty uncomfortable. Almost like having to pee and then having a six and a half pound alien inside of you. Yeah, that sounds crazy. Inside of your jello bag. Crazy that you have a baby inside. Does it ever just absolutely blow your mind? All the time. All the time. Yeah. And then it's gonna be on the outside of it, and then you're just gonna ha and I know everyone like rolls their eyes when I'm like, because I go to the gym, so I see the same people at the gym three times a week, and I know all of the guys kind of like keep looking away because they're like, I think it's just like it's funny to see someone super pregnant at the gym. Yeah, like your boobs still haven't gotten any bigger yet. I've been waiting for that, and I do it hasn't happened. It truly hasn't. Nope. In fact, they look smaller. I think the belly is just pushing the shirt out further. Um anyway. Let's end it. Yeah, um, what? Let's end it. Okay. Well, I just wanted to encourage people to go check out Durango Derby. Um, honestly, okay, I see from like because Dylan puts on this bike race, but I'm also a bike racer, and I get from both sides, like, he's like, I want people to sign, like they need people to sign up early. Like they need to make you know money early to pay for things, but also I'm like, I get it from the bike racer side because I'm like, you don't know, like September is a long time away in some ways. It's not, it's really close. But you guys people should sign up early. Sign up early. Mainly you get a free shirt now, and they're cool. Yeah, super cool. Anyway, um, but use our code talking over you10 um to do so. September 12th is a Saturday. I'll probably be there. I mean, I will I will be there. Yeah. Um, it's honestly like I've raced it a few times. It's so and I don't even love mountain bike racing. It is actually fun mountain bike racing. Like it's a fun weekend. Come to Durango, come hang. Um, yeah. It'll be great. It'll be great. Especially if you're one of those Dylan started it because he's like, people just complain that there's no mountain bike racing anymore. There you go. There you go. You gotta show up though. Okay. Well, all right, we'll we'll see you next week and late next week. Well, we have some like other fun potential guests. Well, that's gonna be tough. I know it's really hard to schedule. Yeah, yeah. It's gonna it's not gonna get easier. Okay, bye.