Jimothy, the Tour de France, and Sarah’s RPE

Sarah is still pregnant and getting less enthused about it with each passing day. This week on the show, she explains why baby brands need to rethink their marketing and why she might just name her newborn after a raccoon. Plus, she and Hannah unpack Sunday’s dramatic Tour de France stage with the help of some reality TV-based analogies, and Sarah shares a humbling experience she had on a recent ride.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:01

Welcome to Talking Over You with Sarah Sturm and Hannah Sturm. Here we go. If you're gonna be an asshole, at least be funny. At least be funny. I thought it was a man coon. We need to have like a real athlete on here. It makes me consider different careers every time I have to pee in my chamois. Still here. Still pregnant. Still pregnant. Yeah. Your stomach is looking more and more plastic. Tot. Yeah, pretty tight. Um, pretty tight and plastic. Your belly button's looking weird. I know. It has like a little your belly button doesn't overbite. But no, it's cool looking. Yeah, it feels super cool.

SPEAKER_02 0:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 0:55

Yeah. Pregnancy is just so magical. Does it feel magical? The kicks are cool.

SPEAKER_02 1:03

Yeah.

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I'm having a hard time like connecting. I'm in like a weird in-between of like whoa, it just did like a tuck and roll in there. Um, like it's cool to feel it move and kick. I don't really feel connected. Like, I'm not a baby person. I'm not like a mommy. I don't feel Mamma Cita. I feel like a Mamacita. Uh yeah, but then I'm like, if I look back at some journal entries from years ago, it's like I definitely was ready for a change in my life, and specifically this one, or I thought I was, or wanting to change. But I feel very much like I'm mourning my past life for sure. Especially with like bike race. It when exciting things in bike racing happen, it's really hard for me because I feel like yeah, it's just really hard. Because you don't know what it's gonna actually be like. Well, I don't know. I just feel like very like it feels a little bit like grief, a little bit of this like old life I had. Um, that we did really enjoy and like. And I I liked the pursuit, but then I'm like excited for the next added challenge. Challenge. Yeah, it was gonna be a good one. Well, no, I was too easy for it. No, actually actually what I'm feeling is I feel sad to say goodbye to my old life that I haven't lived in this has been 10 months of pregnancy. And so I miss it, but then I'm also really like anxious and apprehensive about like the new life that I'm gonna have. Because like I feel a little bit like I've ruined my life. And I and I know that sounds really negative, but that is the those are the two like competing emotions that I had the other day when I woke up. Especially if you don't feel remarkably connected to no your baby it's not out of me, it's not even like a baby. Well, I think that it is a baby, but this conception that like women immediately, and I think some women do feel really connected to like their fetus, but some I don't I don't think they do. No, I mean obviously I think may I wonder if like if we had known the gender if it would have been like which is funny yeah, because then you call it. Not that it has anything to do with gender, it does it doesn't. Like I don't truly don't do not care, but like it's different than calling it the baby. And when I say the baby, it feels creepy. I just say it. Yeah, I do too, and then people people are like really disturbed by that for some reason. I've gotten really comfortable. It feels like an it. We don't know what it is. We know it's a baby. Well, still hoping it's a puppy. Still hoping it's a puppy. It's a fuzzy baby. The little yeah, I think golden retriever in there. Do you worry about like postpartum stuff? Sorry, I guess we're gonna hop right in. Wow, yeah. Um, no, I don't. I feel like I have a really good support system in place. Yeah. My therapist that I see just so happens to be a perinatal specialist. Yeah. So she's like on the look. Okay, good. Yeah. And I signed up for a class afterwards. Like a it has not a great name. I'm not gonna say because I don't want to blow them up, but it's I just like it's a name that I don't know here's my I know the yeah. Here's my gripe. I'm gonna go into like gripe with baby products and baby things and mommy things. We gotta get some new names. Mm-hmm. It we need to rebrand. I feel like there are a lot of W's involved in baby things. A lot of double O's. Yeah, double double O's, double U's. There's the Nuna, the tuna. Those all have like the Puna. There's the Nuna and the Duna, and I have both. And the And I have the Owlet and the Snoo. Snoo. Uh-huh. Yeah. Wild bird, that's a different one. There's a W in there though. Yeah. So I'm saying there's like Yeah. What's the actually, you know what? Worse than all of that? Bumbo. Yeah, there's a Bumbo and the Jumbo and the Dumbo and the and then there's Love Every. That's a brand. Love Every Love Every. Nope. That's just it. Okay. Sorry, we're just not going to get sponsored by any of these. And fuck all of you. Hate your names. Um, but hit your names again. Cool if you could sponsor us. Yeah, but go ahead and sponsor the pod, Snoo. Snoop Poo-poo. But then you get all these products that we have so lovingly been gifted by friends or like, you know, hand me down these things and blah blah blah. And then you have to get a fucking app for everything. Everything. I was just like futzing with that owlet thing forever. And I'm just like, and we per we like made these requests and purchases based on the ones that don't require a freaking subscription to even use them. That was the craziest thing. When you were setting up the SNOO, which is like a it's a bassinet. Bassinet. I was gonna say a crib, but bassinet makes more sense. But it like moves and has like noises and stuff. But you were saying that in order to do like certain functions, you have to have a subscription, which is insane. It is so the world of cycling is no better than that. No, I mean that that is just the world that we live in with everything. You don't need any of it, and I know that we're gonna have a lot of comments, and I I get that, and I know that. Um, but I'm also like pretend like you're a trad wife and just go back in time and you don't need it. I can make jam. I bet you could. I can nurse and make jam. I actually don't know if I could. You could make jam? I don't know if you can nurse, but you could probably make jam. Have your nipples gotten huge yet? No. What? I know. Really? Just give it time. We'll just whip one out and let's see. I bet we'd make more from the podcast. Or less. That's on our Patreon. Look for us on Patreon. Yeah, look for us on LonelyFans and Patreon. Maybe that's what we should do. Listen. Listen. No, we could actually just like Yeah, that was I well, good. We hit one of my my points. But yeah, it is a weird, like I to I did talk to my therapist. There's like, and I've talked to my friends. I have luckily in a very extensive network of uh friends, close, close friends who are both birthing professionals and best friends and have had multiple babies. But yeah, it's like a crazy, I mean, I'm sure Dylan's going through his own version of it, but wait, I did, I did realize what a different experience. And I mean, I've realized this a lot of the time, but um I was like, I woke up the other day and I was like in a really bad mood, that that mood of like, uh oh, what have I done? I don't know if I want this. Yeah. A little bit, like I and I, yeah. You specifically. I'm not saying everyone feels that, but like you specifically. And I don't think it's the last time that you are going to feel that for sure. It is really sparked by like exciting stuff going on in the cycling world and world of athletics because it makes me feel like that part of my life is done. Even though I don't actually believe that. Totally. I really don't. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think it is. Um but anyway, um I was like, yeah, I could, I'm ready. Like, I'm ready to not be bored. And like, I'm not bored, I'm just like, I'm just waiting.

SPEAKER_02 8:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:50

I'm just waiting and waiting and waiting. It's like you've been prepping for this, like the biggest race of your life, but you don't know when it's gonna start, and then you don't get any hints. It's so interesting. I was just thinking about some of the conversations I had this week. I have some friends slash customers who came in and um they both are uh almost in their 40s, but are definitively not having children. And so just like to have that conversation. And uh one of one of the women was talking about how she still has like a lot of like mothering energy and like maternal um and creative, like mothering energy, and she was like, and I can put that towards so many different things, it doesn't have to be my own baby, and I was like, Oh, so like I'm having really different conversations at the same time that you're talking to all of your friends who like have babies or in the profession, but I'm talking to lots of women about like the other side of things of like deciding to not have children and what that looks like totally. Um yeah, just I also think the internet just really makes all of it worse, and even when you think there's some like support and it makes it better, there's just so much to support each side, and it makes you feel like your decision is both the correct one and and the incorrect one at the same time. Yeah, and and the thing is, like, I don't think any of it is right or wrong or black and white ever. Like the best advice we got from our couples therapist when we were deciding if we even like wanted to have kids, and he was like, Listen, it's never gonna feel like the perfect time or the the right choice. Yeah, really. I mean, for some people it does, but for uh that was uh for us specifically, yeah. Because we really liked our life before, but we're also like very ready to like show a new little sentient being the world. Not Norman. Oh my gosh, Norman. He just keeps licking me, and he's so hot, he's so clingy, he's so clingy, it's insane. He just keeps tucking his little face. That's the only indicator that I'm like, maybe I am getting close. Well, why is he doing it with me? Am I getting close too? He said this one's about to bleed. And he would be correct, and you know how I know that? I woke up the other morning. I said, Well, actually, it started the day before. I went to do you want to shake? Okay. Oh no, he just wants to lick my hand. Um gross. I like went to go drop Apple off with Jeff. And Jeff has like a big beard, and he like meant to trim it or shave it before we went on our trip, and he was like, oops, I forgot. Norman, oh my god, he's looking me everywhere. Oh, he looks so sad though. You can keep doing it. That's okay, you can keep going. Welcome to my life. Um anyway, so his like beard is just like out of control, and I went, I went to go drop Apple off, and I hadn't seen Jeff yet, and he shaved off his beard but kept his mustache, and that's fine. I don't care. Except he didn't trim his fucking mustache. Ew, and it's just so he looks like that Dr. Seuss the Lorax. Literally, and then the next morning I was so hormonal and grouchy. We were driving to the gym, and I was like, You look like that um Looney Tunes character that is just a mustache. And then I was like, Did you do it? Did you like the one with the it's red? Yeah, yeah. He's like a cowboy, and he he literally is just a mustache with like a cowboy hat. And I was like, Did you leave it long? Is it you don't want to kiss me? That's why, because you know that I don't want to kiss you. He doesn't entertain it, he just is like, okay. But I was like, I am in fact hormonal. Just your gross mustache. I was like, pissing me off. It is pissing me off. He's still that was days ago. He still hasn't trimmed it. Yeah, I'm having some crazy. Let me do it. It's interesting to me to see the direction in which my hormonal rage is pointed. Me too. Knock on wood? I haven't gotten any of it. No, I don't know. I really haven't. I feel like I'm like, I think if you're a woman, you're in the clear. I am on your team. I don't know, I don't know why, but you picked me and I'm I'm so fucking glad. Oh, if you're the partner of any of my friends, watch out. Yeah, that's a scary place. Yeah, who else? Who else is getting your rage? And what are they doing? Like, where where are you feeling? I mean, I really can't. Like, I well, I can't say this on the pod because it's political, but I had a really weird political one where I was like, I actually had to like backthink, and I was like, wait, wait, wait, wait. We don't blame women.

unknown 13:32

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 13:33

It was, I was like, oh no. This is yeah, it was a whole thing.

SPEAKER_02 13:39

Okay. I'll ask you about it.

SPEAKER_01 13:40

I thought myself out of it. Hormones are crazy, though. I really can't wait for that dip. Hormones are crazy. But yeah, so we're just we're waiting. We're 38, almost 39 weeks. You haven't gotten weepy about things? I'm really not. It's crazy. It just comes out in anger, which uh animal stuff makes me cry instantly. Immediately. I don't have to be hormonal for that though. Yeah. It's just always sometimes baby stuff gets me now. Okay. Oh there you go. We're fine. Okay. She's okay. My therapist though, she was like, it is totally normal though, to like she was like, You're it's okay if you're not connected to the thing that's inside of you. Like you've never been a mom before. You like, but she was like, babies are really cool in like what they because I just like babies need a rebrand in my head. And what does that rebrand look like? I think I need to look at it like a little science experiment. Because right now I'm just like, I'm a little bit irritated taking everything away from me. No, it's not even that. Like, I'm just like, oh gosh, like it seems crazy that this is how humans come into the world, but the human birth is the most dangerous out of all of the mammals because we have evolved. Um, our brains are way too big, our heads are way too big for it can't be more dangerous than a pug. Well, pugs and bulldogs shouldn't exist. They have to have c-sections without humans, they would not exist. The thing that's the least appealing about newborns to me is like, right now, it's gonna be crazy to see if this changes, but like, gosh, they really are so useless. Like, they really can't change exist. They are useless. Yeah, they just can't exist out like outside of they should still be in the womb. Not that I want that. Yeah, don't say that. Yeah, but anyway. So I feel like people are gonna hear this pod and be like, uh, she is not ready. I mean, no, I'm I actually like not to like I am very excited. No, I think it I think it's good that you're not saying how you don't necessarily how you don't feel like I think that there is just this idea that you're supposed to feel one way, yeah, and that's crazy. It is because I think people feel all sorts of different ways, yeah. And also, like, you know, one of the things that's like pretty reassuring to me is that hormones are really crazy, and like your body is gonna spit out so many crazy hormones when you have a baby that like you will in fact I mean you'll feel something. Totally. We hung out with some friends who have um a very fresh baby, and he has a lot of hair, and he's really cute. And I don't usually think norb Norborns, Normans are cute. Well, I just think it's gonna be a whole different thing when it's yours. But I guess we'll find out, you know. Like the good news about you is that you're gonna be honest about all the things. Yeah, totally. I feel like people are that way about like dogs too. They're like, I just love him so much. Like my little puppy. And I remember getting Apple and just being like, I don't know you, and you don't know me. And she was a pup, you know, she was like really cute, but I was like, Well, but when your ears are like this, you're less cute. Like, I remember thinking all of these things and just being like, I don't feel immediately in love with you. I feel like I want to take care of you. Yeah, and like it takes some time, yeah. But to actually feel that like love, that didn't come immediately. Hannah, other Hannah, yeah, best friend Hannah, was who's midwife.

unknown 17:09

Just kidding.

SPEAKER_01 17:10

You're just sister Hannah. Sister Sarah? Sister Sarah, you're so good at that. But she was like, it is a relationship. And I and she said that that was a real she has three kids, two twins, um one set of twins. Uh-huh. Anyway, she was like, Yeah, it was like the best um reframing that she got. She was like, Yeah, just takes it's a relationship that you're forming. You want, yeah, totally. Yeah. And I think like when my therapist was like, babies are really fascinating. She's like, how much they grow and change, how quickly what they can smell. Pretty crazy instinct. Yeah, like there's some instinctual stuff that is like incredible. I'm sure we're just gonna sit and stare at it for like I mean, we were basically just doing that today with Norman. Yeah, totally. So we're like, Oh, look at him. Don't worry, Dole, but yeah, yeah, there's a lot. There's a lot, a lot coming up, and yeah, I really am kind of hoping that it happens this weekend so that I can uh just play hooky from from work. Would be really nice. What there's the pregnancy symptoms that I'm having are like I would say like fairly mild in comparison to like what you know a hard pregnancy would look like. But I the my tummy is getting more and more upset because there's less room. Although now that the baby dropped, less heartburn. Crazy. Uh which is well, yeah, because its head, its hairy little head isn't up by erosophagus. I don't actually don't know where your esophagus is. So that was a that was a wild gas, I don't know if it's near your glottis note. Um but I had pretty horrific gas the other day. But the only reason And you think that's the baby? I the I do, I do. Well, sometimes I mean it has happened in our relationship, but I woke up to Dylan going, boom like in his sleep. No, I don't, I mean, I think at one point he was sleeping, but it woke up. But I was so tired that I didn't want to like say anything back because I didn't want to like have the conversation. But then I turned over and I was just shaking because I was so hard. In the morning, he was like, God damn, you were smoking us out last night with like a tiny little fan popped up on the window to get your voice. The fan was just blowing into the funny, it's made me cry so many times. I've honestly cried from laughter more times than I've cried. Ow. Just poke yourself in the eye. Yeah. Oh my god, that's so funny. You didn't even talk about it that night. You just you just laughed. Did your front wake you up? His remark was he doesn't get mad at you. I mean, he didn't get mad. Oh, that is so funny. It was so the fan is just directing it into his face. Into his face. But you know what? I don't feel bad. Well, now he knows what it's like being with Jeff. And there's no end in sight. Oh God. Oh, look at how swollen my feet are. The swelling is nuts. Yeah. You took your sock off today, and I was like, uh-oh. That is insane. Yeah, it's crazy. Oh my god. Did you swell so much that you popped a knee hole in those pants? No, these are these are Roscoe's. Yeah, and you popped a knee hole in them. Was it not that way before? Oh, I don't remember. Roscoe? Right in. Have you seen the raccoon Jimothy? Oh my god. I feel like all of a sudden it was just everywhere. I don't know where, like, how that happened, but there he was. That made me cry. Did he? Yeah. You want to feel differently about it? You know what I thought of? Oh no. I was like, that's what Sarah looks like.

SPEAKER_00 21:47

Just a ball.

SPEAKER_01 21:50

On legs. And furry? Uh yeah. I mean, if it's gonna start thinking maybe you should name your baby Jimothy. Jimothy. Well that's That's okay. Going back to the baby app stupid things, you have to name the baby for all these things. Like on your outlet, you have to put a baby name in there? It's so gross to me. No, you know, I bet they're really just feeding on people being like not being able to like use their baby's name yet, you know, and just being like so excited about it. And like but I guess do do people always have their baby's names like picked out before I don't know. We certainly do not. So I have to now it's gonna be Jimothy. Yeah. Baby Jimothy. Jimothy. Also, for those who don't know what Jimothy is, it's this raccoon who's like missing like half of his spine spine, and he just is like Did you see that so sure that it so it went viral in Seattle, and then um the like truly, I feel like my feed was like no Jimothy, and then all Jimothy. All Jimothy. I liked one raccoon photo, and then it was all downhill. Um, but then these people were like, Oh, we know this raccoon. We s we took all these videos of it when it was a baby, and so then they shared all these Jimothy baby videos. Yeah, and that's when I cried. Was he cute? Yeah, I thought he was cute. So now I feel like he's a part of me. Yeah, he is a part of you. I think it's hard for me to connect with the baby because I can't see it. I mean, that makes you can in fact feel it though. Yeah, but that's different. It could be Jimothy in there, you know. Wouldn't that be cool? That would be very wild. Yeah, you think you're gonna see it and be like, got it? Like for the name? How does work? I don't know. I we're banking on we're banking on the thing that I'm not sure is gonna happen because it's still gonna be a newborn. But like looks like anything other than smushed. Well, I'm banking on so we're gonna go to the hospital with like a handful of names on boys' side, girl side, and then hopefully when this thing is Earth side, we know, but I've been told that that doesn't really happen. Yeah. But I've also been told like our financial advisor was like, Yeah, we we named our kid and then we got home because we like kind of named it in a rush, or like it felt rushed, and like they were getting input from like family and then they named it, and then they were like, mm-mm. And they changed it. And they had to change it. Ugh. That sounds like ordeal. Because do you have to give them a name when you leave the hospital? Nope. It becomes way harder and way more paperwork to wait, but in Colorado you can wait a whole year. Watch me forget. Just no name. What do they do? What does who do? If you don't if you forget to name your kid. Oh just or like officially name it. Destined to fail everything. You would forget to name your kid. I know, I would. I mean, I would name it, but I would just like forget to do the paperwork. I think that's probably fine. Okay, a lot happened. Um I went, no, actually, not a lot happened. I just feel like a lot is- Is the Grand Prix just like on a brick? Like, what's okay, thank you? No, this is the weirdest part of the Grand Prix, I think. There's such a long wait between Unbound and Leadville. Yeah, like months. Yes. How long has it been? Six months? It could have been 12. Full year. I don't know. I that also is something. I'm like, I don't I can't tell if it's like a weird year in gravel because I'm not in it and I'm not racing. Yeah. And my world revolves around me, apparently. Or um or it's not, and it's just you feel like it's well, I'm just like kind of like bored, not plugged in and I'm bored and because there's nothing happening. Well, there's the tour. I've watched anything happening on the tour. Actually yesterday. I was like, oh shit. Well, okay, well, now we don't ever get to talk about the tour because nothing nothing excites. Okay, no, a lot happened yesterday. It was a wild day. Okay. Well, a lot happened yesterday in general in my life. What else happened? Well, no, not stinky fart. The stinky fart thing. Um, and then I woke, fart gate happened, and then I went to the gym, and I've made a whole new set of friends because I've been in town now, which is crazy. Um, and I go to my weightlifting class, which is mostly Dylan and I going and lifting weights with people that are older than us, which is awesome. And uh we did a biking day. So they were like, oh, we want to ride with Sarah while she's compromised. And so we went for a mountain bike ride, and they're like, they're like mostly like weightlifting people or runners. Um, there was like one girl who's like actually like there were two girls that were like really good at biking. Anyway, it was really fun. Um, and I went not on my e-bike and it was humbling. A little bit of a suffer fest. Oh, true. Actually, it was it really wasn't as bad as I thought because we just stopped so much because it was like we had one woman who's on a bike from I think the 80s. Cool, yeah. It was great. It was like no one was clipped in, everyone had flat pedals. Like it was just a very enjoyable day, other than it being like a million fucking degrees out. So I rode a non-e-bike, which felt like a big accomplishment. I was really proud of myself. I mean, I did like 15 miles. Yeah, I mean, that seems crazy. Yeah, it was really, it was like it was good. I drank a lot of water. Yeah, I bet. Yeah. How many times did you pee? Not enough, honestly. Well, because you were sitting. I can't I can no longer fit into any of my bike shorts, though. So I just wore my like maternity um oh spandexy things, which are still technically called bike shorts. Isn't that funny? Yeah, that is really funny. Just no chamois. Yeah. Which is honestly like just like spandex shorts are just called bike shorts in the fashion world. Yeah, it's really funny. Bike shorts? People are wearing dike bike things. Yeah, hard pass for me, you know. Spend much much of my life in those. Yeah. Um, and then they were all Jones and to get back to watch the World Cup, of which I have watched. Yeah, did you watch it? Nope. I didn't watch a single second of the World Cup. I was, I just saw when they like cut cropped Trump out of the presenting the trophy. I missed that part because watching sports with Jeff is so funny. Uh, he doesn't talk, first of all. Yeah, which is so fucking annoying to me because I'm like, look at that guy's hair and look at this, and look um, and then when the game is over, immediately turns it off. Doesn't it? I isn't it No, that's what I look forward to. I was like, turn it back on. I want to see them vibrating, I want to see their emotions, I want to see all of the things partners. He doesn't give a fuck. He's like, the game's over. I'm gonna turn it off. Oh my god. No, no, no, no, no. I went to lunch with my girlfriends and like texted. I was like, hey, like we planned this a while ago, and um, I was like, Well, it is the World Cup final, and they were like, don't care. Um, but we like finished, and I was like, Oh, I might be able to make it back for the second half. I'm so glad I didn't watch the first half. I also I did miss the halftime show. Yeah, I didn't know there was a halftime show. I didn't either. I didn't know that was a thing. That I think that's an American a new thing. That makes sense. Yeah, they're like they like don't have any kind of like attention still. They're too dumb. Yeah, so like let's let's give them some color and some something to look at. Some pizzazz. Because God forbid they just can't cross my legs. No, you kind of can. Um, I did what so I did watch the World Cup and I don't know, it was not. I didn't even want to talk about it. But at one point, the only thing that was really notable for me, um, you know how they have the like disappearing foam for the the refs have the disappearing foam so they can like mark where like the free kick is. It's foam. It's foam. Well, the ref like I don't know, there were like players like up at his face or doing something, and he somehow like accidentally like set it off, and there was just like and that was my favorite part of the world. I did see that there was like a fist fight, there was like a brawl. Oh wow, I missed well. I missed it because Jeff turned it off. Crazy. You missed all the goods. Well, I turned it back on because I was like, this is the best part, and then immediately was like, No, I'm actually done. Yeah, I'm gonna do it. I don't really care. I'm well kind of done. Congrats to Espania. Good, you know that at least for being the winner. So yeah. I feel like the final of the World Cup is kind of like the Super Bowl where it's like ends up being kind of a boring game. Yeah. You know, everyone's like too defensive. I you know, even when I played soccer, I was like not super into watching it. I actually I like watching it. I do think like how global, I like how global it is, and that I feel like I missed out on, but I really wasn't willing to put the time in. And honestly, the tour was Okay, tell me about the tour. Well, I was planning on like so I did all this exercise in the morning, and it was too freaking hot to do anything. So I was like, okay, well, I'll just watch I'll watch some highlights of the tour and then I'll watch the World Cup. Nope. I watched the entire tour stage from start to finish, and boy, it takes a long time. You get into it. I do. Yeah. Um, I really like it. Well, and yesterday was um okay, so here's if you haven't watched Sunday, today's a rest day in the tour, Monday. We're recording. If you haven't watched Sunday's stage, turn the podcast off. Skip ahead. By Wednesday, do you really care? No. Do you really care? I'm just gonna say if if you are a spoiler kind of person, I'm gonna tell you everything that happened. Just the highlights. Basically, a kid from Durango, Quinn. There's two kids from Durango who are men. And not kids. They're not kids. Sep and Quinn. Um, they're both in the tour. That is crazy. Which is actually crazy now that I say that. There's like I think there's five Americans, and two of them are from Durango. There are only five Americans in the tour? Yeah. Do we say tour weird? Tour? Because my friend Johan, shout out, um, says that we say like tour instead of tour. Tour. He says tour. You know. Whatever, he's East Coast. Doesn't count. We think you're wrong.

unknown 32:18

Okay.

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So there are only five Americans in the entire tour. Yeah, now that you're two of that can't be right. Is that his Mateo? Quinn, Seb. That other kid, Sean Quinn. Sean Quinn. Oof. And then there's one more. Uh, yeah, the he's on UAE. Uh, Brandon McNulty. Wow. Sarah? Wow. Sarah named five men. I've never seen you do that. I truly I've been watching a lot of the tour. I guess so. And then one of the announcers, Bob Roll, has also lived here for a chunk of time. Oh, really? Yeah. Huh. But I noticed, not to start some shit. Uh-oh. She's got a hot take. I do. Okay, well, Quinn had an insane day. And this, I'm not gonna get like into the weeds with this for like people who don't give a shit about road racing, but it's very much a team sport, and all these teams, what you have to remember is like people like Sepp and Quinn, they are sent to the tour to f for a specific job. And Sepp specifically, which is why it was like really a big deal when he won the Vuelta a couple of years ago, because he is Jonas. The he is uh Jonas Vingergaard. Years ago? Uh yeah, Sepp won the Vuelta Espanya a couple of years ago. Oh, okay. Didn't he just win something a couple years ago? He won a stage. Okay. He won a stage at the something, got it. The Giro, I think. Yeah. Um, and so he's in a very elite club of cyclists who have won a stage at all of the grand tours. Got it. Now? Anyway, he's an incredible athlete, an incredible cyclist. But his job, and the one that he likes, because he doesn't want to be a GC guy, he doesn't want the pressure of that. His job is always supporting his GC rider, who is Jonas Finger Guard at the tour. So that's always Sepp's role. So whenever they say, like, oh, Sepp Koos is in 41st place, like, good job, Sepp, it's like he he could doesn't care. Like, his job is not that. He's like getting paid. He is getting paid to make sure Jonas wins or gets second. So Jonas has been in second for the last three years. Okay. Anyway, Quinn, similar thing. His teammate, Mads. They're on different teams, though. Different teams. Okay. Yep. Sepp is on Visma. Uh Quinn is on Little Trek. Little Little bit of Trek. Tiny Twig. Little tiny twig. Little Tweg. And uh Quinn's role is to make sure his teammate, Mads, stays in the green jersey, which is the Sprinter jersey. Okay. Which is a whole other thing. So they get very few opportunities for themselves to like, and this is what's challenging about Rode, and what's really interesting about Kate signing with uh FTJ almost on LDS. FLDS. Crazy turn of events. It's gonna be an incredible documentary, though. I have been watching some crazy documentaries. That's why. Have you? Yes. Should we like what? Okay, should we pause on the tour? Absolutely. Sorry. Always, always pause on the tour. Tell me about what you watch. So I watched, I watched that horrible one that I don't recommend to anyone. I thought it was a different plot line. Uh, maternal instinct, especially if you're pregnant. Don't watch that. Yeah, Sarah was uh telling me that this woman like cut a baby out of somebody else. Yeah, so don't watch that. I didn't think that was the plot. I thought she stole a baby. Well, she did.

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Yeah.

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Anyway. Anyway. Okay, so you watch that. Won't watch that one. Dylan was like, why are you watching this? I was like, I don't know. I can't look away. It was horrible. Um, yeah, don't recommend that. And then I needed a palette cleanser. So I started the well, of course I've watched Be Sweet Pray and Obey. Yeah. About the Yeah. Anyway. And now there's a new one. Um, shoot, what's it called? Uh-oh. Is this not the one that I watched? What's it called? We've already talked about this because I watched it. What's it called? Um was it about a lady from Hollywood with all the pink? Yes. Sarah, yes. Shocked about this. You just clearly didn't listen. I didn't. Um, it is called something about like fake prophet. Or false prophet. Yes. The false prophet one. Yes. Isn't it crazy? I am only a couple episodes in. No, I slept through the first episode. Oh, get ready. I mean, just buckle. I do love her. I love all of the scenes. Have you gotten to any of the scenes? So this false prophet guy, I can't remember what his name is. Um and so the the lady. So the other guy is in jail. He's in prison. And so there's a new false. Yes. Yes. And so this guy's like, well, shit, here's my here's my opening. And he's just like a dud of a dude, right? Dud of a dude. Such a schmuck. But the funniest parts of it are like, so this woman who ends up like the She's from Hollywood. Yeah, and we've talked about this before, so I don't want to like cover it again. I don't, I don't recall at all. But I feel like they're just like, um, so sh yeah, they like infiltrate, not infiltrate, they just like become part of this community without being part of this community and really end up like exposing and doing all this stuff. But her husband is this like cinematographer, like documentarian. But the best part is when he's like filming this false prophet guy while he's like hiking, and he just is like, wow, you're like so good at that. And he's like hyping him up, but it's like such ridiculous. Like, he just looks like such a fool. Just wait till you get to that part. Can't wait. So funny. He's just like hopping around. He's like, wow, you're like really good at that. And he's like, Yeah, you know, like, oh my god, that's gonna really piss me off. So stupid. Anyway, so great. I'm so glad you're finally watching that. You listened to me when I was telling you all about it. I'm so sorry. No, well, I was like, I was watching it, I was like, gosh, this seemed vaguely familiar. Have I watched it before?

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Nope.

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You did such a good job telling me about it that I felt like I had watched it that you hadn't told me about it. Okay, anyway, so that's why I thought Kate was on FLDS. Well, FDJ. But what's interesting about that, going back to like you racing for the the GC, you race for your your queen or your king. And that is kind of decided for you, which is what's brutal about roads. So Kate has this goal of like racing. It does tie back into FLDS. Everything you do, you have for your profit. Yes. Okay, bike racing is FLDS. Road racing. Anyway, so it's gonna be really interesting because Kate has a you know, I'm assuming, I'm just assuming this about Kate. I haven't actually like confirmed what she wants, but she did have a couple of interviews where she said it publicly, I guess. But she wants to go to the Olympics for road. And in order to do that, there's points, and like in order to get points, you have to have certain finishes at these races. But if your only job is to work for your Queen B, you know, it's tough. Yeah. So anyway, Quinn is there's this like climby stage. Um, so there's like flat stages, there's sprint stages, and then there's the climbing stages, and really to win the tour, you have to be good at climbing. And you kind of have to be good at everything. But Quinn is not has not necessarily made his name as like a climb, he's not like a pure climber, as they say. And uh he's just crushing the stage, and it's really cool to see an American, especially someone who like I go to Tuesday Night Worlds and like you know, he I don't necessarily see him the whole time, but he's there. We start the ride.

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But it was it was really he was having this insane day, and um he was off the front, like made the selection, like was he's really animated the whole race for I mean his teammate and the tour in general, which is really cool. Um, and like there was a clip of him going viral because he like high-fived his dad who was there when he was at packing off the front. It was really crazy. And then yesterday, so there was like these two big climbs, and he attacked on one of them, he made the selection, and then he attacked from that select, like the little group, and then he like broke off from that little group, and he was off the front, and then they caught him again, and then they all descended together, and then he did it again. And so he's on this the second of the two climbs. It's a hundred and fifteen mile day, and he's off the front, and you're watching the yellow Is he not supposed to be doing that? Is he breaking the rules? He break the la breakdala. Yeah, uh no, but also I mean by the rules, I mean the rules of his team. I know, I understand what you're saying. Does he have somebody in his ear going, Okay, I see that you're doing this, but like don't fucking do it? Um, I don't know. I doubt it. I doubt that they were like, don't, because like a stage win is a big deal, and he had an interview. Well, I don't want to spoil it. Okay, okay, go ahead. Um, so then he's off the front, but maybe is the answer to that. Like his job isn't really to get a stage win, his job is to support Mads and make sure that like you know his profit gets across before the other profits. Yes, exactly. So then the whole the they always have like they show you where the yellow jersey is and the white jersey, which is the young rider, and the polka dot and the green are in with all the splits. And so that a what? That's just a stripe jersey. Oh, a simple stripe. I couldn't stripe. I couldn't agree more. I do think like white stripes they were like, white seems good. They could have put a stripe on that, you know? Well, they needed to have like the polka dots needed to be, it's like polka dots versus stripes. Right, and that I would watch. No, I wouldn't. Climbers versus descenders. Descenders. They should have a descending jersey. Here we go. Stripes tour. That would be sketchy. Dylan would watch the tour then. And that's downhill. And that's downhill. Yeah, Dylan only cares about downhill QM KOMs. QMs and also Q O Ms. So the striped jersey is for the descenders. Actually, Dylan is always really stoked when he gets a KOM from Quinn on the descents. I bet. But I'm like, you have to understand that Quinn's probably on his road bag. And also probably trying to not die. Anyway, so Quinn is off the front, and then the yellow jersey group, like the main Peloton, is like over two minutes back. So you're like watching this and you're like, okay, he has like 15 miles to go, which is a lot, but like he might be able to pull it off. And then it starts like the the gap starts dwindling, but it was like some weird tactics were happening where like um Visma, Jonas' team, they were like drilling the pace of the Peloton for some reason, which is the same group that Hagacha, who's winning, is in. And but that didn't make sense because they had they Visma had a couple of riders in the break, so they were like bringing the group back to their riders. Anyway, there was some questionable tactics happening. Okay. And the anyway, what you need to know is the Peloton was trying to catch the guys off the front um before the finish. Sometimes they just let it go. Okay. Because if the like if their Queen Bees, if their prophets are all with them, they don't care. Okay. And the other prophets that they're trying to get across the final line first. They it like somet that's how bike racing is kind of exciting because sometimes there are these like breakthrough rides, but it has to be on this day that like also the Peloton doesn't really care about chasing them down. And it's there's so many other tactics happening. Stars really have to align. Yeah, it's there's a lot going on. Anyway, so you're watching um the Visma team who is in second place with Jonas start to try to like bring him up into this second climb. Cause I was like, Oh, well, maybe he wants to like go for it on this climb because Jonas probably weighs, I don't know, seventy five pounds. And you know, I could eat him for a snack. At this point, also think about being a jockey. I feel like he'd be He looks like a jockey. I know. Especially in that little polka dot. See? He just needs a little Well, so then tragedy strikes. And the Visma team is on the front, and you have like they look like little bumblebees because they're yellow and black. So you have a bunch of the riders, they're all strung out. There's like four of them, and then Sepp and then Jonas. Or sorry, Jonas and then Sep. And they go around this like crazy like chicane in the road that had like a cement piece in the middle of this turn. Shicane. Shikane. Shane. Shikane. Shw. They go through a schwing and uh Jonas eats shit. Like his only wheel. And I'm telling Dylan this. That is the correct response. Dylan just goes, Oh, what a loser. He took himself out. I'm like, oh my god, you have no idea what was in his way. Anyway, he crashes. Sep also crashes over him like somersaults. And then I didn't know that this is a rule in the tour, but you can't wait for your teammates. So like Sepp gets up. But that's yeah, you're not allowed to wait, which is really weird. So then, so anytime you see that and you're like, oh my god, this guy's just leaving him for dead. It's because they can't? Yeah, but you can like like slow pedal, and I think that that's what they do. They like soft pedal and make sure that like so. Then you see all the team all the like tour medics go over to him and he is in pain. Oh no. And you're watching this and he hasn't like stood up yet. Oh no. And I was like, uh-oh, I think his tour is done. Oh no. And ultimately he really broke the shit out of his collar. But he was in pain. It was really actually quite, it was like kind of brought a tear to my eye. It was really hard to watch. Yeah. It was really sad. You're like, they just all look like little cry, but Jimothy Jimothy, immediate tears. Baby pictures of Jimothy. Done. Easy. Jonas? In like excruciating pain. Jonathy? No. Jonathan. A little misty. Dewey, if you will. It was quite sad. Because then you're like, oh my god, these are just like a bunch of 20-something year old boys out here. How old he is? They're all in their 20s. Damn. I like actually he might they are. There's a 19-year-old who's in the white jersey right now, who's he's the youngest one to be in the in a jersey at the tour since 1937. Oh my god. He's 19. Yeah, that's teenager. Teenager. So insane. Anyway, all of this happens. Quinn is off the front. Still. Still. Yeah. And then and it what I do love about like the Tade and Jonas rivalry, if it if you could even call it that. Like Tade had like five minutes or four minutes on Jonas. Like it was gonna take a miracle for Jonas to win. But he was like right on the wheel. Like he was Tade just missed the whole thing. Like he was just in front of the whole crash. And like you could just see that he was like he didn't want to win like that, you know? Yeah. And I mean they're like, I wouldn't say they're friends, but like well, I'm sure they have some kind of a relationship. They do, and like they talk about like they're really they're honestly like really nice to each other. They probably will be friends when they both retire from the spot. I mean, they're the only two that can relate to each other with the same kind of yeah. So anyway, you're like watching all this happen, you're like, oh my god, what is happening? And then you see Tade. So he's also racing for his teammate who's competing against the 19-year-old for the young rider jersey. Okay. And you start So he's trying to support his young prophet. Yes, because his prophecy is pretty much set in stone. Yeah, he's he's more in Jeff's. He could be in he's in prison, but he's still working it. Yeah. Do you think other podcasts are having like making these drawing the same kind of thing? I don't know. If anyone listens to Lance Armstrong's podcast, who that drive that drives me insane that Lance has relevancy still. But it's like Peacock on the like peacock programming. You can like watch a tour stage and then listen to Lance's podcast. Is that where the the tour is being uh it's on it's on Peacock? Gosh, I've been I've been living on Peacock, but I've been watching I'm almost caught up on Summer House. Oh okay. Don't say anything about it. No, no, I'm not sure. But I I know she's a good one. And then it's over. Oh no, and and then have you watched the Amanda No, that's why I'm saying don't say anything. I know something happens, but I don't want to know what. Oh my god. Sarah, don't oh, I cannot wait to discuss. I you're really bad at keeping things in. Well, I didn't watch it. I just have heard about it. I know. Well, I don't want to hear what you've heard, what you've heard. Wow, that's really impressive. It's like I didn't go on my phone yesterday at all because I wanted to watch this whole stage happen. Well, here's the thing. I won't even like my algorithm doesn't even know that I watch Summer House because I don't want to click on anything or like give it any time because then I know I'll get all the spoilers. I don't I and Oh my god, I could just spoil the fuck out of it right now. I think I know something about what goes on, but I don't know how anyone gets to that point. Because we're still in season, we're in what's happening? Sorry, this is gonna be the longest tour recap of anyone's lives. But also for the girlies that are watching Summerhouse, they're gonna be like, finally, they're talking about power TV. I'm in season 10, and Amanda and um Kyle Kyle are still together. Like how do you feel about that relationship though? Ugh, it is. Even from season one. From the which they're both so annoying. I swear I was like, don't. This isn't there's not a chance. I hated them both. Okay, anyway, let's get back to the story. I can't, I I would love to just sit here and talk about Bravo TV. Oh, I I'll talk about Bravo. I that's the only reality. I actually need to watch all of it because I haven't. I can't believe you don't like below deck. I don't. Once you have this baby, I'm gonna sit and force you to watch. I've heard I need to watch uh what's the one? Oh, the Mormon Wives one? No. Oh Vanderpump. Oh, I started watching that. It was too hard. You know what we should watch when you have your baby and we're bored is um The Real Housewives of Rhode Island. It's the like newest group. I haven't watched it. No, sir. I think we should watch it. I like the reason I like Summer House. Okay, I'm down to watch it. I will try. Why do you like Summer House because you don't like all these other ones? I I grew up watching um Real World. Real World. And Summer House for some reason reminds me of the real world in that like those people are like, even though like the Summer House cast isn't like they aren't people that I am similar to at all, but they're a little bit cl like there's too big of a disconnect between me and the Kardashians, too big of a disconnect between below death. I've watched it. No, Sarah, you're wrong. I just don't understand how to do it. I don't get why you don't like it. We have to you have to get the flow of it. And you have to because it's it's the real world, except for they also have like jobs and they have like other things, like you also get to see their work ethic. Like you get to there's so many other components. I okay below that. We are gonna sit and we are gonna watch it. I'm also like maybe I just watch this l latest season of Summer House because I haven't watched any of it. Like, I think I stopped watching shortly after Hannah left. Like early. I have thoughts about Hannah being on there too. Hannah. I know. Yeah, I know. I know you do. Anyway, okay, let's get back to the tour. I if this podcast could turn into just like a Bravo recap, I would Well, it is. I would love that. I would have so much more to say. We can pepper it in. Uh, but you're gonna have to start watching cycling too, because you have to like make the connection. Okay. Here's deal then. When you have this baby and we're just sitting here and staring at your baby, um, we're watching. Well, the women's tour will be on? We're watching the tour and we're watching Below Deck. Ah, I don't want to watch Below Deck. Okay, fine. Okay, you can pick between that or the Real Housewives of Rhode Island. Okay. Because I've heard it's great. I haven't watched it. Okay. Fine. Okay, fine. I'll do it. Okay, fine. I'll do God's work. And you are a prophet. Okay, so where were we? I don't know. Talking about bikes, I think. Um, okay, so Jonas crashed. They're bringing they're bringing the okay, yes. Okay, oh yeah, so we're bringing the baby up. We're bringing we're bringing the baby up. We're the baby, it's baby versus baby out there. Okay. And the babies be dueling. Okay. And then you see uh Pagatcha baby. Pagatcha's baby. Pagatha's baby. He's gonna Pagetcha. Uh-huh. Um, he is like clearly like trying to like shed the other dude off. Like there's Jonas's baby? Uh no, Jonas, we're Jonas is his whole team is out? The whole they were just expl like once it takes a minute, you know? They lost their profit. Like, we gotta give them a minute. Yeah, they're they're like they're like, what are we doing? What do we do? They're like, yeah, they're creepy, they're all just buzzing around. Truly. They were like, what are we I know? It was a bummer. So they're gone. Okay. Um, and then you're done. You're done. Air done. And if you don't get that reference, you don't know. You don't spend enough time on the internet. And you can't sit with us. So then um Pogacha goes to the front or his team, and they start like really drilling the pace, and you're like, what do they have planned? And they just and then they hit the climb, the last climb, and they're starting to. Quinn's still out front. Yes. Okay. Quinn is attacked, which is remarkable. Because you still have a good lead. Yeah, it's dwindling though. You're like, okay, oh boy, this could because everyone knows, like, Pagatcha can just basically, if he decides he wants to win the stage at this point, you're like, okay, I guess he's gonna be. He could just like sweat a little bit and he would just do it. Yeah. It's actually kind of boring to watch. Okay. So you're like, okay, maybe there's some other stuff happening. And all of a sudden he starts like riders are exploding off the back. Like they are just shedding riders. And baby number one, white white baby, white jersey baby, uh, he is gone. And Jonas has his baby on his back, and he is he is going for it. He's being the mama monkey for sure. And he ha but then they have another little passenger, and it's the guy who now is. Is that a little parasite? Little parasite. Okay. He's the guy who uh is he in second? Sorry, people. Anyway, his name is Remco. He's a specialized writer. Okay. He races for yeah, and you know, I have to say it. Is he the hot one? No. Oh, okay. No. Oh god, no. No, no, no, no, no, no. Sorry, Avon. Honestly, he could be hot, but like, I just like his vibe is off to me. Oh, okay. That's another hot take for you. Wow. Oh, other hot take. So Quinn is having this phenomenal day. Yeah. And we're I'm watching on Peacock, which is the American broadcast. So there's like a lot of Americans who are commentating, and one British guy. And they're like the British guy and Bob. So there's Phil and Bob, and they're like a thousand years old, both of them. Yeah. And well, Phil really is. And Bob is the Durango guy. Yeah. I start noticing, huh? Bob never says Quinn's name. He never ever calls out like anything about Quinn. And like Quinn is some Quinn's I am There's some plushing undertones. You're doing a good job of noting. I have my own opinions, and I've had I've Quinn and I have had some words. Great. Okay. Um, but you know, he's a fucking insane. We're looking at bikes. We're looking, I am just I am myopic. Like, there's blinders on, and you know, this we're in it to watch bikes and be entertained. I don't think Bob can do that because he didn't say a single fucking thing about kind of respect about him. I don't hate that. I don't think it's because of politics, though. You don't? I don't. You think because I think he just doesn't like him. You think it's just like bike politics? Like, politics out of it. You think it's bike politics? Correct. Interesting. I do. Wow. This is just my hot take, people. Write in. Call in. You think anyone else watches this and knows anything? I guess other people watch it. I guess people. Do you think anyone else watches the tour? Anyone else has ever seen a stage of the tour before? They're not watching it in the way that I'm watching it, I guarantee you. Because I was sitting on that brand new nursing chair we got in my underwear. I had my underwear on and I was eating jelly beans and drinking. I remember last episode when I was like, I got a huge bag of jelly beans. I just went into their pantry and was like, the purples and the brown ones are left, and that's it. Which is crazy. I still had my cycling uh jersey on and I was just in underwear. Anyway, so no, I don't think anyone watches it quite in the same way that I have been watching it. Maybe not. I looked like that uh mother of the pregnant orangutan. Anyway, lip lipples touching the floor tucked into your underwear. Yeah, essentially. Oh my god, I'm so hot. It is hot. Your house used to not be hot, and now it's sorry. No, it's your baby's gonna love it. Uh, that's a whole other thing. The TOG rating. Don't get me started. What does that mean? I don't know. It's like a rating of like how warm an article of clothing or baby product is for the baby. Anyway. It's like the R value. Yeah, it's basically baby R value. So then we have Bob not saying Quinn's name at all, but all the other commentators are losing it. It does, in fact, bring me back to Bravo. Okay. Because I just watched the season nine finale, or no, the season nine reunion, when Paige would not say her ex Craig's name. She just referred to him as my ex. And Andy, who always like leads the reunions, was like, are you purposely not saying his name? And she said, He will never hear me utter his name out of my mouth. Oh yes. So honestly, here we go. Bob is pretty much. And if you didn't think that we could make the tour anymore. Compare it to Bravo, you were wrong. You clearly have never been. I want to know how many people are watching the tour and Bravo. Well, I don't know when the season of summer. Like I feel like when the season of the tour is over. What season of the tour is this? A thousand. Why don't they do okay, anyway? Okay, so Quinn's out front. Bob's not saying his name. Pagatcha is slowly catching up, and he has Remco. Uh, they've dropped the other baby. So like his baby is like only a couple seconds behind. Sorry, Pagatha's baby. Pagacha's baby. Um and uh it's no, it's not Juanayuso. Oh god. Juan Tobo. I don't know what you're saying. Uh Del Toro. That's his last name. Okay. He's a Mexican kid who like it's pretty sick. Sorry, my nose is just so sweaty if you do see it. Yeah. Okay, great. I'm so sick of being hot. Anyway, um, so Doro, Pogaca's baby, is trying to make up seconds on the babiest baby, Sexis, the British kid, who is in the white jersey. Sepsis? Sexis. S. Not better. I know. S-I-E-X-A-S. It's for it's French. Okay. Sexos. Okay. Um Okay, keep going. You got this. Are you gonna fart? No, I there was a funny sign that someone had. They they just had part of his name, like sex seven. They just said sex seven. Anyway. Oh, I could have done so much better. I know. Anyway, so he there's like all these little races within this race happening. And um Remco, I can't remember where he is in the full GC, but he's getting close to closer. No one's close to Pagatcha, but he was kind of getting closer to Jonas, and he's also having this insane day, and he's really kind of ha hasn't been there for the you know, at any point during the tour, and there's some weird shit on that team. Usually you only have one Queen Bee, and they have two profits. Sorry, I just flopped around. I know. You're mixing up medical. I know, I know. Um, but there's kind of this like weird profit like battle going on on the Red Bull Bora team. Isn't that easy to squash where your manager is just like, you're it should be, but then they're like, I don't know, maybe they're like, well, so and so did better this day, and then this guy. I don't know. There's drop mu get to the end of this stage. Um I feel like I've been watching it for 150 miles. Sorry. Well, I'm explaining it. I'm also trying to fucking it's like holding on to water in my hand. Like the memory, the memories drip quickly out of my fingers. So then the three of them are s are really closing in on Quinn. And then you're like, you kind of there's this moment where you're like, fuck, he's running out of he's running out of time, and they catch, they catch him, and then they just blow, blow past him. And I kind of love that. Then Quinn has a new job, which is insane. So like he's been out front, he's been animating this whole race, and now his job is to get their team's baby up there. So we got three babies in the mix? We got two babies in the mix. Two and a half babies. Okay. But yeah. Yeah. So anyway, so then so then you see the end of this. Pagatcha is like doing the Pagacha thing, and he's like starts cranking. He doesn't eat he's like nose breathing, and these guys are like, you know, working. And he's trying to like up the pace to try to shed Remco, the Red Bull guy, the specialized guy, but not drop his baby. Oh. And ultimately, it's like this whole like we and then like kind of, we're going totally. We're kicking it into the body. But then after the the stage uh went, I heard like the radio exchange, and you heard because they all have like little race radios, you heard his baby say, Hey, crank, like, go for it, but don't drop me. And so you see Pagaccha do this, and then he starts dropping him because the line is getting closer. Yeah. And like they probably want the stage win, you know, because they're both on the same team. It's like two versus one, and then Remco's just sitting on, like, waiting for them to do their thing. And then I think I can't remember who went first. If it was like Pagatcha was going, and then Del Toro was on his wheel, and then Remco responded, and then Remco just went for it. And you're like, Go, dude. But then it was really hard to tell if Pagatcha actually was sprinting against him to try to get the stage win or not. Because like there, it was a really weird finish. I felt like you saw Remco, he ended up winning, and he like celebrates, and Pagatcha never even got out of the saddle, like he was still like seated the whole time, and then his baby crossed the line and he's now in the white jersey. Oh, okay. Um, but it was a really weird day, and then like there's all these theories like, oh, Pagaccha didn't want to like win the stage and post up on the day that Jonas crashed out, and like he gave him, but I'm like, eh, I don't know if I believe that. Like, I want to, like, and I think he probably cared, but he also like this is their job. Like, they want to get stage wins, like that's a big deal, even though like he's been getting booed for winning so much because people are tired. Yeah, oh that kind of sucks, though. Totally. Do you think that's how Sophia feels? No, you don't? No, I think people are tired of seeing Sophia continue to win. Yeah, people are tired of it, but I think Sophia, well I think Sophia is wanting some competition.

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That's what I feel about Sophia. And you're like, hold my baby, I'll be there in a year. Totally. And I will be there. And yeah, and I will be competing against you and only you, probably. Yeah, I mean, I think it kind of sometimes gets lonely, like winning. I imagine, I don't know. Can only imagine. But I think I've sweat more than they sweat on that stage. Just in this podcast, in this podcast. So anyway, wow, heating up. Yeah, I mean, that was a lot to your mouth was moving a lot. Crazy. Okay, so we're so you are still, in fact, watching the tour. Sure am. Great. What else you got on your list? Oh. Well, there were some races this weekend that people did. Anything exciting to report? They are having to change the Leadville course because of the fire, which is a big deal. Okay. So, like, I don't know what's that? Uh it's the middle of August or second weekend of August. Oh my gosh. I know. We've still got some time. That's such a big deal. This is a weird, this is a weird lull in the gravel calendar, which is always kind of nice. Why is it like that? Why are there I mean, there are races happen like the Rift happened in Iceland. Uh congrats to Haley Smith, who win one. I'm sorry. Who win? Who winned? Um, I didn't see who won the men's. I'm so sorry. Um, if you're here for the men's results, truly You're not. You're listening to some other podcasts. Yeah. Honestly, if the women's tour was on, I would not be watching the men's tour and I would be watching the women's. And that's coming, coming at you soon. Yes. Oh, I do have a funny. Okay. I let's see if I can explain this. Do you know what RPE is? No. I don't know how. I well, I I was like, Do you know the words that make up that? Okay. Do I? Yes. It's rate of perceived exertion. Okay. Um, and like coaches will use it. I don't think it's a cycling thing, but coaches will use it instead of like having like a quantifiable number of like your effort, like power or heart rate or something like that. Um, it's just like your perception of how hard you're working or how hard you're pushing instead of like an actual number. Okay. So it's useful for people because like sometimes in cycling you can get too focused on like what your actual numbers are, and that can actually be detrimental and not help you improve. But like RPE is a really helpful tool. Like it's it's kind of for like racers and athletes who are just kind of more like feel it out kind of people. Um, and I'm a big RPE girl. And so I'll just that's like keep that in mind when I tell you this. Okay. So I know how like a hard what a hard, heart effort feels like. And that hasn't changed in pregnancy. My speed has, sure, but my rate of perceived exertion has not, or effort.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:36

Um, and so when I was riding at 38 weeks pregnant, I was working really hard to go up this climb. And it was the same effort as I mean, maybe I put in for racing Leadville, I would say. Oh, wow. No, it wasn't that hard. Crazy. But like it would be the equivalent of doing like a medium hard interval. And usually when I'm doing those things and training in town, I'm not usually like getting passed by people. And so I was on this ride with this group, and I was like, whoa, we got passed by this guy who was just like out on a Saturday ride for himself, you know, just average mountain bike guy. And he like blows past us. And my first thought was like, wow, that guy is going so fast. Like, who is he? How could he possibly pass me? Because I was but I was probably going so slow. So slow. Oh, I'm sure. But it doesn't compute in my head because like I've just had so many years. Oh no, I'm I'm I'm I'm blistering blistering pace of you. You were like, wow, the air is so still today. I don't understand. That's what I like was trying to do. That's like the most egocentric thing ever, but I'm like, how could he possibly be passing me? I'm like, I just don't understand. I'm going hard. Like really hard. Wow. I am so not an athlete. I just I'm like, my rate of perceiv No. Mm-mm. I was like, I did enough. That's pretty much like my rate of perceiving. It's not even that like that felt like that was good. Yeah, I did it. I'm hot. I gotta get out of this room pretty soon. Oh, okay. No, let's keep going though. No, no, no. This is a little bit of a public service announcement. I'm not posting on Instagram stories as much because I'm fucking bored and I have nothing interesting to share. To my life. Yeah. Nothing interesting to share on my on my social media. Yeah. However, I have received and I love this, and I really truly, it is a little overwhelming because I got a lot of texts this week. Just people like, hey, thinking about ya. And I realized I think people think I'm in labor if I'm not and I've had the baby. Definitely. So I'm I'm gonna try and figure out like a little game plan here because I am gonna take a sabbatical from the internet after I have the baby. Yeah, what is that gonna I'm gonna delete the fuck out of Instagram off my phone, which I haven't um done ever, really. Um but I just want to like focus on, you know, this new life thing. But uh I will do some form of announcement or someone else can for me on the Instagram thing. You'll know. Okay. People won't know when you're in labor, though. No, no, no. They won't. So they're just gonna keep texting you. I guess so. Good PSA though. I mean, I don't know how else to deal with it. PSA, I'm still pregnant. I think I'm freaking people out at the gym, though. Are you? Yeah. Like women in the locker room are like, oh wow, I thought you would have had the baby by now. You and me both, bitch. Oh, look at that. You're so girl. Oh, wow, you're still pregnant. That must be so fun for you. It's funny because in my brain, I'm like, oh, we've got some time. I think as long as your doctors will let you go, I think you will, in fact, go. I do too. Yeah. Okay. Well, I'm glad we're in agreement. I know. I was like sort of feeling like hopefully this kid'll be impatient like me. I don't think so. I think this kid is gonna teach you some patience, maybe. Yeah. Okay. Your first lesson. Oh, whoops, I forgot we were gonna talk about dirt uh derby again. Oh, we shouldn't throw it in now. Well, I'll just throw it in. This is a little bonus for them. Um we'll just wrap this thing up. Okay, if you're a mountain biker and you like riding in single track, you have a family, or you don't, you just like doing a fun bike race that's sort of an enduro style, but you get a good ride in, there's prizes, um, it's a good time. It's in Durango. Uh, September 12th, there's a mountain bike race for you called Durango Derby. Um, look it up. There are four stages. Um, anyone under the age of 18 gets in for free, which is cool. Um, you can race all four stages, or you could pick, you know, one or two of them, which is sweet. Um, it's in total 50 miles, uh, like including all the transfers to all the different stages, which is sweet, but you're only racing like you're it's basically our way of showcasing the best single track in town. So you're always in town Durango. Um and if you register before July 31st, my due date, um, you get a free shirt. And if you use talking over you 10, lowercase, you get 10% off. I love that. So isn't mom gonna be in town? Yeah. So maybe mom will be there. Yeah. And if I feel like I have my life together enough, I will make an appearance, maybe. There you go. Um, okay. Well, that's all I have. Yeah, hot will probably be here next week. So oh god. See you next week. Bye, baby.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:06

So hot.