Cancel 'Boss Bitch'

B + H catch up on NYC half marathons, schlepping a toddler and a baby around Manhattan, very average Lunar New Year and St Patrick's Day parades, and rant about new world/internet slang from 'Boss Bitch' to 'Girl Dad' to 'Head of Biz Dev'. Oh and don't forget 'the Deck'!

Transcript

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Could even. Welcome to the New York Raised Us podcast. Brought to you by Rockaway Soda. Whoa. Wow. Growth. And Oni's rum. Small improvements. Oh wow. I just feel like we grew.

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Yes, we grew. Grew.

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There was live growth there in that in that um intro. I was gonna call it an entry.

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Sure.

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Yeah.

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Intro.

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The entry. In that entry.

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Yep. And anyway. March 16th. Uh what time do we got? 7 25 p.m. Back to night games.

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Monday.

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Monday. Not Friday energy. No.

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We're all over the map, man. Yeah.

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We'll never get it right.

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That's part of our. As we've belabored on this podcast, we live in chaos. And you know, it continues.

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Yes.

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So one day we'll get on a a good schedule. Or not. Or not.

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And just kind of No, I think being unpredictable is now an asset.

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Yeah.

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And less of a less of a weakness. Yeah.

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Well, we have a lot to talk about probably since the last time we actually recorded, which I guess was several weeks ago at this point.

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Yes. Life things.

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You've done two half marathons since we last recorded. And I know we talked about this as like your 2026 goals, and it's annoying.

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We're only on the we're still on the front half of quote of the quota, not on the back half.

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Goodness. It's great. You have anything to say about these marathons?

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I do. I'll get quickly, quickly into it. So the first one I was going to do was, I think, on February 22nd in Central Park. There are apparently two competing, I don't even want to say competing, but two entities that run road races in New York that I know of. There's New York Roadrunners, the famous one. They host the marathon. I think they're the only recognized marathon in New York City. And then there's something called NYC runs, which I discovered in my rage towards the New York Roadrunners because I did not get into the New York half marathon by lottery. These the New York Roadrunners, they've do half marathons in every single borough. They obviously do the full marathon marathon, which is one of the big six marathons. And they host other races: 5K's, 10Ks, charity walk, potato sack races, you know, tug of wars, I'm not sure about either of those. But a lot of sanctioned races. But it's a it's it's big business. It's big business and it's big participation, right? If you want to run the New York City Marathon without raising $5,000 via charity, um, you have to run nine races that are part of the portfolio and volunteer for one. And then you don't even qualify that same year. You qualify the following. So you're kicking, you are running races a year plus in advance to running the marathon.

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You're just chasing your ass around.

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Yes.

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So driving the rest of us nuts.

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Yes. So anyway, uh, I was supposed to run a marathon with New York City runs on February 22nd. The Saturday prior, I said to Bridge, I said, I have a real bad feeling about this because apparently we're getting the nor'easter of all fucking Northeaster blizzards. Lo and behold. Decided we're skewing too heavy on weather in this show. Yes, but real quick, uh Saturday at like 2 p.m.

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we're at the We're out of the snow, shit snow for now, anyway.

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We're uh at the Brooklyn uh aquarium, the Cody Island aquarium. And I'm like, you know, I got a bad feeling about this. Get the email marathon, the Central Park had pulled the permits for New York City runs half marathon on February 22nd. What did I tell Bridge? I said, I am running this distance tomorrow, no matter what, and you're like, what the fuck? And I'm like, the fuck, we're I'm doing it. So the following morning, I ran the distance. Um, I was happy with my time. Fast forward yesterday, the New York half marathon. What is the New York half marathon? You start. Uh Did anyone ask that? You gotta know because it's epic. Um I know, it does, it did sound epic. You start um uh sorry, on Eastern Parkway in Franklin, right by the Brooklyn Museum. You loop around into Prospect Park, do a quick like third of Prospect Park, you descend onto Flatbush Avenue. You run Flatbush Avenue from Grand Army Plaza all the way onto the Brooklyn Bridge. You run up Tillery, make a left on Tillery, you go over the Brooklyn Bridge. This is closed for a race. You go on the FDR northbound, also closed for a race. There are drivers driving 100 miles per hour, like 10 feet away from you, honking at you as like tens of thousands. The other way, going the other direction. Going southbound. Yes. No, that would really add a wrinkle. Um, and then you make a left on 42nd, you go into Times Square. So you are the only time Times Square is closed other than this race is for um it's for uh New Year's Eve. Um, and then you finish, you go into you go on 42nd, you turn on 6th or 7th. I don't remember. I was blacked out. Um, and then you go into Central Park at 57th on the south side, loop around, uh, not loop around.

SPEAKER_02 4:50

I told you not to black out. I told you to take in the sights because it's so glory.

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Part of the problem. Part of the problem. Uh had my foot on the gas like the whole time. And there are people like taking selfies and posing for the photographer. There are people talking while running. I'm like, you guys aren't here. You guys a lot of walkers. We'll get into that. Um, I was like, you guys aren't here to PR, which is personal best, or PB, or um and uh you're not on my psychotic level. I yes, especially the wave I was in. So anyway, you end at Tavern on the Green Central Park, 13.1 miles. Beautiful experience. Um, you can't experience you cannot experience New York in that way other than doing this. So I'm really happy I got to do it. Uh a family member could not chose not to run it because he was gonna be in Mexico drinking with his family the whole time. And he said, I've run it three times, take my bib. I almost fucked up when picking up the bib and like ratted us all out, and they don't do that kind of thing. You can't transfer bibs, uh, newsflash for anyone trying to run it under someone else's bibs. Do not say transfer bib, just say I'm picking it up for someone. Um, had a great time, was very happy with my speed, uh, my fine my finishing time. Um, but it's stressful the whole time. And it's stressful because I got on the train at 6.20 in the morning, completely packed. Finally, I just said to people, like, I'm I'm not a big person, I'm forcing my way onto this train, and they left and we all like rode, you know, ass to ass. Um uh train was crazy. The security line is crazy. It looks like a refugee crisis going on on Eastern Parkway, and I did not get into the security line early enough. I was like fucking in Lala Land. I don't know what it was. Um, I was like trying to warm up outside of the security line, which was dumb because the porta potties are through security. Obviously, if you were there to do fucking something stupid, you would probably not uh the porta potties need to be through security, so you can't smuggle anything in. Took like an hour to get in. Uh finally I took off. 25 minutes after my wave started. Um, I was in a wave that was not running at a very fast pace. So I did a lot of a lot of weaving through people and a lot of a lot of pace pickups. Um had a great time, ran well, was happy.

SPEAKER_02 6:56

I know you're pretty like I um so I have like a couple of things to say. Obviously, like I'm kind of being menschy about this whole half marathon, like curmudgeonly, not not menschy, curmudgeonly.

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Okay.

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I don't really know what the word menschy means, actually.

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No. More the same thing. More jocular, jovial, like a little bit like path. A little pat on the back. Is it? Yeah, the curmudgeon is the yeah, I'm curmudgeonly about. I don't want to watch the kid for four hours.

SPEAKER_02 7:21

Well, it's just like we have to talk about it. We I we have to go sober. And I'm saying we, meaning like you talk about it, you go sober, I have to live.

SPEAKER_03 7:30

I did get pretty drunk for parasite on Thursday, and I didn't want like didn't intend to drink ten drinks, and then wound up drinking ten drinks. So I left some time on the table. That's also like hilarious. At parents' night, I shit face. Ten ten drinks is not how many I had. No. Seven or eight is what I add.

SPEAKER_02 7:46

You had seven or eight?

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Guessing.

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I probably I don't know. Anyway, I know you're like pretty serious, like, you know, you're taking it seriously. I'm happy for you.

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It's a good place to place your hunter attention.

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It is annoying. It is crazy that like it's hard to handle our children, like one person to handle both of them.

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Four hours, yeah.

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Just in general, like I know you're serious about it. Well, to a couple things. Number one, I know you're serious about it because you had your like annual fantasy baseball draft in person the night before the race. Which is debauched. Normally, like a fun party night for you, you know. Great time boys' reunion or whatever.

SPEAKER_03 8:28

And it's pretty debauched.

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And you chose to run the race and not do debaucherous things.

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Went to the draft. So that didn't drink.

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I know what your priorities are.

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Shout-outs to athletic brewing, non-alcoholic beer. I know.

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Anyway. You don't believe in their right to exist, but it's you're just I know you're like on a hunt for a sponsor, so keep keeping it.

SPEAKER_03 8:45

Just throw it shit at the wall. Spray and pray. Athletic Brewing, what's up? I ran the best half marathon I've ever run, which is like my third one. That's not a competitor to Onies Ralph.

SPEAKER_02 8:57

Well, I some people argue that you drink a non-alcoholic beer like in the same drinking case and you drink a soda, but I'm not so sure about that.

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Um time and a place for non-alks. I usually drink.

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They do a lot of sponsorship. Did they sponsor Hyrocks? They do a lot of like athletic, they do like run clubs and stuff.

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I wouldn't be shocked.

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Anyway.

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Something. Yeah.

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I find that interesting. Like you want to have a non-alcoholic beer like immediately after you do a run. A lot of these people. I think we talked about this when you did HyROX.

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I did yes.

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And I was like, I would just want like a sports drink.

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Yes, I think. They were like the non-alk sponsor. Yes. I think they were there.

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But anyway. Uh so it's annoying for you. No, that's was that what I was gonna say? Oh, I want props for like taking it seriously, I guess. Yep.

SPEAKER_03 9:45

Two yes or like you mean. Mainly mean. Just take what I'm giving right now, okay? C plus. Congratulations. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 9:57

Um and the second thing was like, oh, in my head, like on Sunday morning, you know, as I'm up, whatever, with the kids, which we had a lovely morning together. I was just like, in my head, I was like, oh, it would be so nice if like, you know, I could we could go meet dad uptown, like at Central Park when he was done with the race.

SPEAKER_03 10:18

I think I insinuated multiple times to recruit someone to give you that.

SPEAKER_02 10:22

But it's just like insane that like I can't. I just can't. Like you can't. Just like I can't even. I just can't. Yes. I can't even, I just can't. Whatever, just can't.

SPEAKER_03 10:33

We're in the burbs, kids, front door to car seat. I was thinking about it, like, oh my god. Let's explain what the process is gonna be. I'll tell you what the process is. You would have had to text it our garage two hours prior to getting the car.

SPEAKER_02 10:44

I don't even know how I'd get them both in the car.

SPEAKER_03 10:46

You have to wear one on the carrier and then like hold the other one with the depth grip death grip. I've done it before. You have to hope that the car is ready. Better than I am, adult. You have to hope the car is ready. It's not gonna be ready. Um, the city's gonna be fucked up because half the city's like cut up.

SPEAKER_02 10:58

Yeah, I would have to like research how to drive there.

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Research how to drive.

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Then park.

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No, I I didn't even I didn't even think about it. Then park and then um, then park and then get the kids. You have to like wheel around the course and get the kids like in the like the southeastern-ish part of Central Park, all the while like there's a million people running and cheering. So this is a big ask. I told you to recruit someone to help.

SPEAKER_02 11:25

No, I so I didn't even think about taking the car. That wasn't even an option. In my head, the the thought was okay, can't take an Uber or like a car service that I can request a car seat because I need two car seats, not just one car seat, because like Neilon's not big enough for a booster seat.

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Of varying sizes.

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Um, also like have no idea what streets are closed. And then I was like, I could take the train, I guess. I could put them both in the double stroller and like I'm like, but I don't even know what the trains are doing. Like, I was like, I just can't.

SPEAKER_03 11:52

And they no, it's just can't.

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I'm in I'm just prisoner with the kids by the building right now.

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Yes.

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And then yeah, so besides asking for help, which that I could have hired someone to help, which is so insane. Like, this is how difficult it is.

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We thought we had someone. I could have we thought we had someone we could rely on for these things. I would have that came and wet.

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Like, anyway, I just it's it's crazy.

SPEAKER_03 12:13

What you're saying is stressing me out more than like what I went through yesterday.

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Please come over and help me get to Central Park from Tribeca with my kids.

SPEAKER_03 12:21

With my kids. I will pay you. So my like whacked out husband who's like doesn't know what's going on because he's depleted.

SPEAKER_02 12:28

How weird is it gonna feel feel when we like darn so like and then like the diapers, the bot like I mean Reese's kind of not on the bottle anymore, it doesn't need it, but it's just like when your kids can just like walk onto the train with you.

SPEAKER_03 12:41

Yes, and uh it's gonna be so weird. And as I like get go to my bag, pick up and like um re-emerge into like gen pop on Broadway in like, I don't know, 60 something, 60th, like all these people are like taking selfies with family members and like blah blah rah rah rah with their like medals on. And I'm like, oh running theme of this show.

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Wouldn't it be nice if we just wanted to go to the burbs? Maybe that would that's what our show name should be. Free brand. Burbs question mark. Wouldn't it be nice if we could just go to the burbs? Like in the burbs, your car is in the driveway. You take like I could take I could have taken the two kids into the car in the driveway, driven to the end of the race in the half marathon in the burbs. I'm sure there's a parking lot right there. And I could get the stroller out of the back of the trunk of the car, and then we could push over and see dad at the finish line and go.

SPEAKER_03 13:30

In the burbs half marathon. Yes. There's half marathon. Or a turkey trot down Maine and Elm Street. Um, yes. What like I like barely got on a two-train, I barely got through security. I was using a stolen bib, like, but what you're saying sounds way more dicey than all that stuff.

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It's so crazy.

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Um, but you know, I'll say this. Like, I was running fast. Like, I'm not I was running fast and really pushing it. I want to see how fast I can run. There are plenty of people there that are just trying to enjoy themselves. But I will okay. Stopping in a mass of people, literally tens of thousands of people, at least hundreds of people, where you are. I mean, this is like take selfies.

SPEAKER_02 14:13

This is like on the Brooklyn Bridge, walking Manhattan, walking in Manhattan on crack, right? Like walking on the sidewalk, walking like native New Yorkers versus like tourists versus influencers.

SPEAKER_04 14:26

Yeah.

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That's like this on a hundred, and you're competitive. You want to like be doing whatever ridiculous times you're doing, and like also I looked if I would have kidded.

SPEAKER_03 14:39

No, but I I yo, I wish this was on video because I know it looked fire on Seventh Avenue. Um, like people are fading, right? This is they're in mile 11 and a half, and like I was not this, like, I will get into the my weekly chat GBT or AI is here to take a take our lives, unfortunately. But uh, I was kicking up speed, I was ending strong. Um, some dude like accidentally cut in front of me, and like I pulled some like what to me in my mind was like some pump returner out of like the 2000s NFL, including same speed that's your yeah, Dante Hall, Devin Hester, like some like that. I I think I like pulled like a back juke, let the guy go forward, and then like you're right, you're an NFL.

SPEAKER_02 15:24

Now you're an NFL running back.

SPEAKER_03 15:26

If I did that in the NFL, I'd be decapitated by the player that is twice my size and twice my speed and half my age. But in my mind, in my mind, I was about to break it open for a touchdown.

SPEAKER_02 15:37

Visualization is a really powerful exercise. And I I think that one move I mean I use it at work all the time, but I learned it from endurance swimming, like trading when I was when I was a competitive swimmer.

SPEAKER_03 15:47

Well, that's like visualize the race, right? Yes. Uh no, but I didn't visualize race, I just like put pulled a move on this guy that was an all-timer. Yeah. Um, and then what else? No, but like I st I started, I looked at people, I looked at times across the board. Um, if I and the shout outs to my cousin who gave me the bid.

SPEAKER_02 16:05

I'm gonna wrap up the matter.

SPEAKER_03 16:06

Yeah, um, he just runs slower than I do now. He's 10 years my senior. He also like in his prime could have finished it.

SPEAKER_02 16:11

Aaron's catching straight.

SPEAKER_03 16:13

No, no, no. I'm saying he just like he runs, he she his his bib is in a wave that is slower, that that's slower than I'm running. So like I was running, yeah, I was running faster than pretty much my entire wave.

SPEAKER_01 16:24

And that uh required a lot of a little flex, a little a slight flex.

SPEAKER_03 16:29

In his prime, he could run a sub-hour and a half marathon, half marathon, no problem.

SPEAKER_01 16:33

Okay.

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It's a long time. So anyway, that was it. It's a great New York City experience. Unfortunately, you have to like win a lottery or run a lot of these races and like make sure you're in. Um, or probably work for another corporation and then you're fine. 30,000 people.

SPEAKER_02 16:46

What else has happened since we last recorded? Oh, we went to we went we've gone to two parades.

SPEAKER_03 16:51

Two subpar parades.

SPEAKER_02 16:53

Two like very subpar sub parades. The okay. We'll start with New York. We'll show you. And now our barometer for parades has is basically the the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade. We've talked about this on this podcast. My parents were clowns on it the first year they were dating, and we've got I have gone basically ever since I was born.

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Yeah.

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Um so like that's the gold standard parade. So then you go like In New York, yes. We went to the Lunar New Year parade.

SPEAKER_03 17:24

Yeah.

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The politically correct terms. I don't know, is it Lunar New Year? New Year's parade.

SPEAKER_03 17:29

One of the two. In Chinatown.

SPEAKER_02 17:31

Trust that we're trying to be politically correct.

SPEAKER_03 17:32

Yeah, whatever. Yeah. The year of the horse, 2026. Year of the fire. Yeah, fire horse. Yeah, the fire horse. It's supposed to be let's go. Giddy the fuck up. Something. Um we should qualify this by saying we were at like the tail end of the parade. Kind of like we're it didn't wouldn't have mattered. Uh we were, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:52

We were like at the end, like, but I don't know if Mott Street would have been more lit, but like Motsu, but like the Again, things would have been better if our kids weren't so like at such a m mid at best late age. Brutal. Like if you could go and like get Chinese food or get dim sum, like and make a little day of it, sure. The parade itself is like come on, it's just really lots too bad. It's like something you would see like in a movie, like a high school putting together floats. They were like terrible paper mache floats.

SPEAKER_03 18:27

Yes. And these I gotta say There were some cool dragons, though.

SPEAKER_02 18:30

I saw some cool dragons. Um I mean, you see one dragon, you see them all.

SPEAKER_03 18:34

So I gotta ask, all right, like a lot of these parades, unfortunately, like the tropes and the stereotypes for specific ethnicities, like come full, full, come, come full out.

SPEAKER_02 18:42

And I'll I mean tomorrow St. Patrick's day. We'll talk about St. Patrick.

SPEAKER_03 18:45

St. Pat, we'll talk about St. Patrick's Day momentarily. I'm wearing an Ireland shirt and like I'm pale as fuck. So like I'm I'm I'm the stereotype. Um if you're so one of the major Connecticut Native American casinos, either Foxwoods or Mohegan Son, had a float that was so underwhelming. I get it.

SPEAKER_02 19:02

JP Morgan Chase had a float. It looked like someone, it looked like this, the the printer from elementary school. Or if anyone people will know who listened to this because they're our age, but like that had the like the printers that had the little like holes on the edge for the thing.

SPEAKER_03 19:19

Like type nine, I know whatever it's like. Dot matrix or something. Yeah, the perforation.

SPEAKER_02 19:24

Yeah. And then you had to like, you know, take the little edges off, little hold edges off. I think it was not speaking English very well because it's kind of hard to describe. You kind of have to just know. But it looked like the JP Morgan Chase sign on the float looked like it was printed at like you made a you made a banner in like fourth grade for class for something. Yes. And it was like 17 sheets of printer paper from that, like with those little holes on the side. Horrendous. And like taped to the wall. That's what the float, like the chase float.

SPEAKER_03 19:54

The chase float. Johnny Walker float was okay. But if I'm Mohegan's son or Foxwoods and they advertise hard in Chinatown, we like to gamble. Asians like to gamble. Um, yo, go big with the fire horse. Like, spend some money, someone. All those floats were really, really, really, really underwhelming. And then out of nowhere, there's one float that didn't seem it was predominantly staffed by or manned by Asian people. They were playing Bad Bunny. They were Hispanic. And I'm like, all right, that's something. I'm like, what's going on? Like, is it and then I'm like, is anyone drinking here? What are we supposed to be doing? Um, but people were throwing those popper things. So there was like some like the sound. Didn't like the power. Yeah, the like little crut things you throw at the ground. But it was like so underwhelming. All right, so I'm knocking that parade.

SPEAKER_02 20:43

And now let's talk about speaking of which I smoked a Chinese cigarette for the first time ever.

SPEAKER_03 20:48

Yeah.

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Uh recently. I was I I I whatever, long story, not gonna share it on the podcast, but wound up like hanging out whatever, a couple of weeks ago with some new mom friends in the neighborhood, and came across a Chinese cigarette at the end of the night, which I had never seen before nor tried.

SPEAKER_03 21:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:09

They burn really fast.

SPEAKER_03 21:11

Weird.

SPEAKER_02 21:12

Someone confirmed this to me in the DMs because I don't know, maybe it was in my mind after 17 glasses of wine, but like I felt like it was done in two-ples.

SPEAKER_03 21:23

People do smoke hard when they're drunk, but I yes, apparently.

SPEAKER_02 21:26

But anyway, so had some some China flair from the parade standpoint and a cigarette standpoint. The fire horse has treating me well so far. The momentum is fucking real, which is great.

SPEAKER_03 21:39

So so far, so good.

SPEAKER_02 21:41

Um and then we also went to the Rockaway St. Patrick's Day parade, which is always the first Saturday in March. Yes. Has uh have our own little parade there. Yes. Which really was the best when I was a teenager, to be honest. Like from ages 15. Into 25? No, I would say like 22.

SPEAKER_03 22:04

25. That's it's you get a free as a teenager in the neighborhood, you get a total free pass to just like be open.

SPEAKER_02 22:11

They used to have these huge tents with like Irish music and like maybe some brawling. Yeah. Oh God, it's the slop festival slop fest at the end of the day. But um it was a lot of fun when you were a child.

SPEAKER_04 22:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:26

And now we took our children because it's like, it's Saturday. What the fuck are we gonna do with our children? Yep. Uh, there's no routine. And I was like, oh, maybe they'll like the parade. My our son really loves music, as we've said before. So we checked out the Rockaway St. Patrick's Day parade, which I totally recall as being a much larger parade in during my childhood. And it was confirmed by some adults that, like a generation ahead of me, that it was bigger. I'm like, was this in my child mind that this was a lot more longer and like more substantial? And they were like, no, it used to be bigger.

SPEAKER_03 23:01

But do you think that's because mayors used to show up to it?

SPEAKER_02 23:05

Mayors, I don't know. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of like pipe and drum bands. There's like the local school kids, the little Irish step dancing girls, which are so cute. Yep. Um, 72 million emergency vehicles like blaring their sirens, which I guess is supposed to be like merriment. But I can't.

SPEAKER_03 23:24

That's what made our kids flee the scene once and for all. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:28

So average at best. And then tomorrow's St. Patrick's Day parade is like seven hours long. It's like the most boring thing. It's like pipe and drum ban after pipe and drum ban after pipe and drum ban after pipe and drum ban after fire drum.

SPEAKER_03 23:43

This priest, this cardinal, this mayor. Is Mombani gonna show up? He's gotta. He's gotta show up to the big one. He didn't show up to St. Patrick's Day, uh, the Rockaway St. Patrick's Day, but he's gotta show up to the main one.

SPEAKER_00 23:54

Yeah.

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Has to.

SPEAKER_00 23:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 23:56

And also, let's just call it like it is. Any cop or firefighter that's like not working that day gets a total free pass to drink a thousand drinks and like do what they do afterwards on 2nd Avenue. I feel like I've only really If you're into cops or firefighters, go to Second Avenue tomorrow, even though you'll hear this four days after the fest.

SPEAKER_02 24:14

I feel like it's been a really long time since I like went out on a like a day of St. Patrick's Day.

SPEAKER_03 24:20

When we first started dating, we went to Yeah, which was 20 years ago, I think. Close to.

SPEAKER_02 24:24

I mean, I always have a pint on St. Patrick's Day, that's for sure. But like out.

SPEAKER_03 24:29

No.

SPEAKER_02 24:29

I I can't remember.

SPEAKER_03 24:31

No.

SPEAKER_02 24:32

I mean, and tomorrow I'm in charge of the St. Patrick's Day celebration.

SPEAKER_03 24:35

At school. Yes. How to catch a leprechaun.

SPEAKER_02 24:39

How think how time changes everything. Um so that'll be cute. And of course, the other mom that I'm like co-hosting the celebration with um likes to bake, which is like the opposite that I would like to do. And she's making homemade soda break.

SPEAKER_03 24:55

She said she was doing a a dry run uh this weekend. So I think she's probably perfected her recipe.

SPEAKER_02 25:01

Oh, I hope there's extra.

SPEAKER_03 25:02

Yes. I really look forward to soda bread on the side. Oh, I'll get some from I'll get some anyway from Whole Foods Small.

SPEAKER_02 25:08

Um better homemade. I mean, they probably make it. Whole Foods bakery is pretty good, actually.

SPEAKER_03 25:12

I I do have to make one comment about the Rockaway St. Patricia Sarayer. Like, first of all, it was gray outside and cold, not great weather. Well, it's Irish for like us Irish to be seen in uh like on a day where we're just gonna like drink excessively. I no longer can do that. I didn't even have one drink that but people do. And again, just playing up the stereotype, like let's like not honor anything else that's good about like Irish culture, which you know they've had all the music the parade music was good.

SPEAKER_02 25:40

The little Irish step dancing girls were so cute.

SPEAKER_03 25:42

Not that like you're not honor like writers and like you know, literary figures on St. Patrick's Day. But yeah, you know, again, playing up the tropes, let's all drink a thousand drinks and you know devolve into madness. We didn't really stay for that.

SPEAKER_02 25:56

We watched the 20 minute parade and went home.

SPEAKER_03 26:00

Yeah.

unknown 26:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 26:01

No Mom Donnie in Rockaway.

SPEAKER_02 26:03

There hasn't been a mayor there in a while.

SPEAKER_03 26:04

No.

SPEAKER_02 26:05

Um anyway. I digress.

SPEAKER_03 26:09

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 26:10

There's been a lot to catch up on.

SPEAKER_03 26:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:12

But I think we'll like leave I think that's enough catching up.

SPEAKER_03 26:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:15

I don't know. Anything else you want to acknowledge that we've done that's been out or tail before I talk about what I want to I had a theme today.

SPEAKER_03 26:22

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 26:23

But do you want to say anything else about anything?

SPEAKER_03 26:25

No. I mean, just like March needs to be over because March is weather's still fucking.

SPEAKER_02 26:30

Oh, we're more than halfway there. I know.

SPEAKER_03 26:31

It's just weather's still tough. We had three days.

SPEAKER_02 26:34

It's warm. It's raining, but it's warm.

SPEAKER_03 26:36

We had three good days where the whole city was at.

SPEAKER_02 26:38

This is not an update on something cool we did. This is more weather talk or a fucking weather station.

SPEAKER_03 26:43

Oh no. Every 10 minutes. Every 10 minutes. That's what they have to do on the radio in New York 1, Spectrum 1. Every 10 minutes. Still raining outside.

SPEAKER_02 26:50

Um, well, I've been just saying what I've been up to. I mean, aside from like social anecdotal things, which has been, you know, fun parades and what uh oh, lamenting about your marathons, um, hanging out with some people in the ne in the in the neighborhood here. I've been like head down. It's kind of segues actually into the topic I was thinking for random rants and raves tonight. Um I've been head down, like fundraising um for my new business, which you know, I keep teasing on this show because I can't really talk about it, but when I can, it'll all you'll it'll be all you're ever hearing about. So um history tends to repeat itself. Anyway, and some of my takeaways from you know getting out there and marketing this deal has been like, you know. Actually, I'm gonna refrain from these comments.

SPEAKER_03 27:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:53

So I just stopped myself. Let's talk about slang.

SPEAKER_03 27:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 27:58

Um, I'll share more on that when I can. Um I feel like we haven't talked about slang on the show. And I had these like, you know how I have my like notes app that I'm like, oh, like I think of something, like let me write it down in the notes. So I I was reviewing notes because I'm like, oh, one of our goals is to like actually produce this show. Um, not that this is actually producing it, but I was like, oh, there's like a little theme here. Um, you know, in some of the like random things that I've um, you know, jotted down over the past brainstorm. Um what but we're talking about how slang has fallen off? Slang, it's sort of a a slang slash labels theme. Okay. So like things that I have, maybe I'll just like throw these out to you.

SPEAKER_03 28:51

Love it. And let's see what you think of sitting on a fastball, please.

SPEAKER_02 28:55

Okay. I'll go with since it's kind of top of mind since I was talking about my capital raise.

SPEAKER_03 29:03

Well, cap raise.

SPEAKER_02 29:04

And that like the irony of like terms like girl boss, baddie, girlies.

unknown 29:15

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 29:16

Those are all different things.

SPEAKER_03 29:17

Girl boss.

SPEAKER_02 29:19

Um, so I think these are all like things that have been like created to like bullshit boost women. It's so cringe. It's always been so cringe. Sadly, women don't have any fucking money anyway. Um, like men still control all of the money. Um, but like the ones that do. You're a boss bitch, boss bitch.

SPEAKER_04 29:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:40

It's I can't even say like the words coming out of my mouth cause a visceral visceral reaction in my body. So I think what do you think of that term? So as a not not as not a boss bitch.

SPEAKER_03 29:53

Let's not get me canceled here.

SPEAKER_02 29:55

And let's compare it to something that would have been used in our youth.

SPEAKER_03 29:59

In our youth. Okay. So I think I mean there was just so few female executives. Like the first or like or female women in power. Like they're like the highest it ever got.

SPEAKER_02 30:12

So would it be would you have been like a bad bitch? Like was Lilakim a bad bitch? Not that she's a bad bitch. Um like not that she's like an executive.

SPEAKER_03 30:20

You know, no.

SPEAKER_02 30:22

But to me, bot does boss bitch mean like CEO?

SPEAKER_03 30:26

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 30:27

Oh no, it does not to me.

SPEAKER_03 30:29

Well, I think it's overused.

SPEAKER_02 30:30

CEOs, real CEOs would never be wanted to report to a boss bitch.

SPEAKER_03 30:34

All this online culture and speak and talk, right? It's just like something that's overused. It's something that's overused. I think like there's like a bit of like dis it's a bit disingenuous too sometimes. Like, not everyone's a boss bitch. Like, there's only typically one boss of an organization or whatever kind of outfit. And I think there was this ad.

SPEAKER_02 30:55

Oh fuck, this is not good because I shouldn't remember what it was for, like what company it was for. But it was on um, it was on that huge wall, one of the huge walls in like Williamsburg 10 plus years ago when I was in Williamsburg all the time with the distillery.

SPEAKER_03 31:11

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 31:11

It was on like North Seventh and something anyway. And it was like painted. It was a it was a uh not a ref it was a reference to like I'm uh I'm not a businessman, I'm a businessman, the line by Jay-Z. And it was like, I'm not a boss, bitch. I'm not a boss bitch, I'm a boss, bitch.

SPEAKER_03 31:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:33

That I got, I liked.

SPEAKER_03 31:35

Yeah, okay, that's good. I just I think this, yeah, just all falls under these, like, you just hear these, you start hearing these things like live your best life, which is now come and gone, and like No, we gotta stick with the boss bitch. Out, overused, trite.

SPEAKER_02 31:51

Like, how does that make you feel inside? You're like, oh, that woman's like, she's legit.

SPEAKER_03 31:56

No, if you I think it's actually I think you get entitled boss bitch, slightly slight slightly demeaning, and but it's also everything is in the delivery. If someone's like, oh no, she's like, she's a boss bitch, and true.

SPEAKER_02 32:06

Delivery is a delivery is gigantic.

SPEAKER_03 32:08

Oh, she's a boss bitch. Like, what do you mean? It's like she's a CEFO of that company.

SPEAKER_02 32:12

Also offensive, kind of.

SPEAKER_03 32:14

You know, when you use these words more and more, they become less offensive, right? I shouldn't speak. Like, I don't think I don't think you appreciate being called a bitch out of out of.

SPEAKER_02 32:24

Can't you just can't you just be called a boss?

SPEAKER_03 32:26

Right.

SPEAKER_02 32:27

Like, it's why are we genderizing it?

SPEAKER_03 32:30

It's it's it's lame. Okay. Yeah. Uh there's a whole lot I'm giving that. You'll probably do multiple episodes. B minus B minus C plus. But you gave me three baddie? Like, I think called now we have to do different because baddie is a different definition, right? I like baddie better than like we're talking about like an attractive woman.

SPEAKER_02 32:46

Baddie is like a hot, hot, hot girl.

SPEAKER_03 32:49

I just said attractive woman, you said hot girl. So we've said the same thing. Is it or are you a badass? No, a baddie, like when people over baddie is an attractive woman. Yeah. Oh. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 33:00

So badass is nothing.

SPEAKER_03 33:02

It's 2026. Wake up. Hi, I'm from 2026. Get out of 2018. I don't like any of these words. You're talking boss bitch 2018. I'm talking baddie, 2026. You gotta catch up. Uh baddie, I I it's better than like Hottie or Shorty. Shorty's the ultimate New York word.

SPEAKER_02 33:19

Yeah, that shorty's so much better. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 33:21

Shorty, shorty's great, but shorty, very, very uh part of the new, I think, New York.

SPEAKER_02 33:26

Baddie, to me, it's like, okay, is that badass?

SPEAKER_03 33:29

No, just means she looks bad. She's bad. She's look, she looks good. I'm in. I get baddie a B B plus.

unknown 33:36

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 33:37

Okay, I like bad. No, Baddie's better. Baddie's better. You say baddie, like, oh, she's a cutie. Then you're like, she's a baddie. It's like, uh, okay, what's her IG handle? Um I kind of like it when men are using that. Yeah. Uh again.

SPEAKER_02 33:55

Like if a woman says to me, which by the way, I've been called all of these things by other women.

SPEAKER_03 34:00

Okay. I I see what you mean.

SPEAKER_02 34:05

There's but I don't think, like, okay. Is there an undertone of like it's not called attention? I've been called a baddie. I don't think it's because a woman's been hitting on me. She's like, I Googled you. Like, I've got to be. She wasn't trying to say, I think she was trying to say I was a badass.

SPEAKER_03 34:21

Then she's using it out of context.

SPEAKER_02 34:23

No, no, that's what I'm saying. I think it might be more incorrectly.

SPEAKER_03 34:27

There may be multiple uses for she should check. She she needs no. Baddie is like what?

SPEAKER_02 34:32

She's like, I googled you, you're baddie.

SPEAKER_03 34:34

Hmm. Okay. I'm not sure I'm liking her d deviation from what we're trying to do.

SPEAKER_02 34:40

She's also older than I like, she's in her 40s too. So maybe she's like me and she doesn't know what it fucking means.

SPEAKER_03 34:45

I give you both.

SPEAKER_02 34:46

She was trying to look like she would knew what she was talking about. And I'm like, I don't think that word's gonna resonate with again.

SPEAKER_03 34:51

I think like welcome to 2026. Use this and you have to use this properly in context. I maybe just take a scroll.

SPEAKER_02 34:57

You might be anyone, you only know it from a male perspective.

SPEAKER_03 35:01

Wow. So yeah, you're right. I I do. I'm sexist, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 35:06

You're using it wrong, I'm using it right. I don't know. Maybe there's just multi-use cases. Okay. Either way, I don't fucking like the word.

SPEAKER_03 35:13

Okay. So we're so we'll agree to disagree.

SPEAKER_02 35:16

Don't call me a baddie. Don't call me a boss bitch.

SPEAKER_03 35:19

Okay, fine.

SPEAKER_02 35:19

I'm definitely not gonna call anyone a baddie bitch.

SPEAKER_03 35:22

Now say don't like I don't know. At least that's more to the point. True. Fair. No comments. All right. What else we got, flying wise? Um, yeah, boss bitch. I think that came and went, man. We know how things are nowadays. You guys had a window of opportunity.

SPEAKER_02 35:40

Now it's back to No, Boss Bitch is still around. South by Southwest was like the theme of South by Southwest that just ended it, ended was like boss bitch.

SPEAKER_04 35:50

Really?

SPEAKER_02 35:51

But it's all like a charade, which don't get me even started on this, because it's like, and this is also like let's not use this word and these labels because it's not like helping women advanced in any way.

SPEAKER_03 36:02

Yeah, it's juvenile, right? A little bit.

SPEAKER_02 36:05

It's just like and it's bad marketing. It's bad, it's bad PR.

SPEAKER_03 36:10

Fair.

SPEAKER_02 36:10

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 36:11

Um it's it's it's but that's probably a rant. It's a little big team.

SPEAKER_02 36:15

Like, if you want to be CEO of fucking Google, I don't think you should be referred to as long as you're talked at length about charades, and I everything is sure a charade in life. Like we're all just hallucinating on this planet and like your perception is reality.

SPEAKER_04 36:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:28

But like I actually don't think of performing. I think I live pretty authentically. I just think people are like constantly trying to build their brand in a certain way. Und that's what I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_03 36:42

There's like speak now.

SPEAKER_02 36:45

It's be it's speak, I guess, but I just think it needs a better person.

SPEAKER_03 36:48

This also happens with M. It needs a better PR person because these words I think it I think it emerged from the PR verse, and now we're it's like almost passe. It's like it's dated now. Find something else to do. Just or just move in silence and violence. She is the CEO of this company.

SPEAKER_02 37:04

Okay, one more like feminine-related one before we is the CEO of this company.

SPEAKER_03 37:09

She founded this company.

SPEAKER_02 37:10

I have to look at my list. I'm deferring to my list.

SPEAKER_03 37:12

I thought you was a boss bitch, Mackenzie Scott, formerly Bezos. She donates more than a lot of people.

SPEAKER_02 37:17

I don't think she would like to be called a boss. Of course not.

SPEAKER_03 37:19

She doesn't even like she doesn't even announce her donations. Um, sorry, more slang.

SPEAKER_02 37:24

It's an offensive term.

SPEAKER_03 37:25

I don't think probably created by a man.

SPEAKER_02 37:29

Um, all right.

SPEAKER_03 37:33

Gravity straws here. All right, we don't like it. Moving on.

SPEAKER_02 37:36

No, I'm looking for my next, okay, last like female-oriented sort of one that is like fingernails on a chalkboard to me.

SPEAKER_04 37:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:46

Girlies. It's fine. A lot of like Gen Z market like brands that are a lot of brands that are marketing to Gen Z are like with an Instagram influencer or like an influence, uh, Instagram campaign or any social campaign, really, are like hanging with my girlies, like drinking Rockaway soda.

SPEAKER_03 38:07

Whatever that fucking influencer shit is. Um uh okay, girlies. Now, is it a certain demographic? Like, are you not a girlie because you're aged out?

SPEAKER_02 38:16

That's the equivalent for men. Like, I'm hanging with my boys.

SPEAKER_03 38:19

It's like bros. That's it.

SPEAKER_02 38:22

You wouldn't say I'm hanging with my bros.

SPEAKER_03 38:24

I think bros is kind of an age thing too.

SPEAKER_02 38:26

Bros is like on the internet, like a male influencer would be like, I'm hanging with my bros.

SPEAKER_03 38:30

I don't I I don't even know. Like the internet culture is so crazy. I I'm I I'm I'm I'm out of that. I don't know what they would say. They have like they're subgroups. Like, I so I wonder. I feel like girlies might be Gen Z. It that's it. Like, I don't think they're referring to you as a girly. No, I've never been called a girl. You're a mother of two and like from a different generation and a two different homegirl, or that's my girl. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 38:55

That's my girl, that's my home girl.

SPEAKER_03 38:56

Girly strikes me as Gen Z only. Like, why do we have to put an IE at the end? Yeah. Not great. Not great. C minus at best.

SPEAKER_02 39:06

That's my homie. That's my homegirl. That's my girl.

SPEAKER_03 39:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 39:10

No girly.

SPEAKER_03 39:11

Okay, we're out.

unknown 39:12

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 39:14

We haven't even compared these to any. Or kind of have compared. Shorty, you're comparing that to baddie. Bad bitch. I was thinking, but that I'm thinking more of just like a rap, a rapper. Like what's a what was like a there was no equivalent, you know, executive type slang word in our generation.

SPEAKER_03 39:35

No.

SPEAKER_02 39:36

Okay. This one really kills me.

SPEAKER_03 39:39

Very few women in power.

SPEAKER_02 39:40

I'm just jumping all over. This is so random, but hey, this is the BH variety out of the show.

SPEAKER_03 39:47

Sport Association. I love it.

SPEAKER_02 39:50

Girl, dad, and boy mom.

SPEAKER_03 39:52

Horrendous. Okay. There's degrees. There's degrees of this. When we were in Disney, we didn't Neilin was in in with Neilon was five months. It was due. You were five months pregnant with Neil, so we did not have children. What does that have to do with it? I'm getting into it. To wear a shirt declaring it is fucking insane. And also we already see your children. I just don't know what that means. So then we look it up.

SPEAKER_02 40:20

Isn't being No, I think you and I can no, we already I think we've talked about this on the podcast now that we're talking about it.

SPEAKER_03 40:26

A girl dad, a girl dad is a a father of only girls. Of only girls. A boy mom is a father, a mother of only boys. But why? But why?

SPEAKER_02 40:36

Why is that why is there a definition of that?

SPEAKER_03 40:40

To like signal what you're going through as a parent? I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 40:45

Also, like every child is different. In such a modern times where like you know, they're gonna identify but the gender, like you know, anyway.

SPEAKER_03 40:55

I'm not I'm not crazy about it. Um again coming out of the internet. And it's all more um like, hey, girl boy mom here. Yes, and I think, and I've we saw the shirts in Disney and I was shocked how many people were wearing them. Um I remember my cousin Jeff being talking about crossroads of America. Um and it's more segmentation of America that like, or just in general, that we don't need. Okay, you're you have kids, great. They just happen to be two girls or happen to be two boys or three girls. Three girls. It's just more like cringe, you know, more just like now we're in a different like subcategory of parents. I'm not I'm not a fan.

SPEAKER_02 41:34

Some people really, really care about what the gender of their babies are gonna be.

SPEAKER_03 41:39

Of course. I cannot relate to that. Of course. I I can see wanting a certain makeup. Um I just can't relate to that.

SPEAKER_02 41:50

I like first of all there's just like so many things out of your control with your kid. Like you're putting an emphasis, like people get severely disappointed when like the baby is not the gender that they hoped for.

SPEAKER_03 42:04

Yeah. That's kind of crazy. Yeah. Like and maybe keep trying and have a bunch of kids. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:13

So is it a manifestation of insecurity that you boy mom never had a girl and you really wanted a girl? Like, what's the psychology behind that?

SPEAKER_03 42:22

No idea. None. But the but I the announcing of it, I think, is totally unnecessary.

SPEAKER_02 42:29

Like again, another label. Like, what is this lay announcing? Back to my theme of labels. Like, why is this part of your identity?

SPEAKER_03 42:37

And why is everything a subgroup of a subgroup of a subgroup? It's like there's the commonality with you and everyone else that's had kids is that like your parents, I think you can just leave it at that. And like, yeah, if you have three girls, you have three girls. So you're a girl dad. What are other girls? So you're also a girl mom?

SPEAKER_02 42:55

I wish my dad was here so I could talk to him about like girl dad.

SPEAKER_03 42:59

He would be your dad would walk out in five minutes. Like, all this stuff is so fucking dumb. What's happened to this country?

SPEAKER_02 43:06

He'd say what he said, which is what I feel like now I've lived too long.

SPEAKER_03 43:09

Yeah. Uh huh. It's also to just, yeah, there's too many people and too much content, and you know, something's catch fire. Uh the the shirts were jarring.

SPEAKER_02 43:19

Obsessed with themselves.

SPEAKER_03 43:20

The shirts were jarring in Disneyland. Um Disney World, wherever we were. I never know the difference between the two.

SPEAKER_02 43:24

Um Okay.

SPEAKER_03 43:27

Yeah. And my apologies to, you know, some of my friends that have one gender sets of two.

SPEAKER_02 43:35

Then my other, my other like bucket. So I guess there was a label bucket of like women shit. A label bucket of like, well, just girl, dad, boy, dad. Men slop. There's probably way more parenting that I don't even know about. Or there is way more parenting than I don't even labels that I don't even know about. Gentle parents. Not even touching. FAFO parent.

SPEAKER_03 43:55

This parent. Laffo parent. I fucking really I'm jealous of. Them. I really wish I could stick my guns there. Uh, what about like astrological parents and like new age mysticism shit? Um, yeah, there's everything.

SPEAKER_02 44:07

And then I had a um business bucket, basically.

SPEAKER_03 44:14

Let's do it. Everything's a Ponzi scheme now. Capitalism's a joke.

SPEAKER_02 44:19

Everything is just so vague. Like head of business development is like a big title.

SPEAKER_03 44:25

Titles.

SPEAKER_02 44:25

Biz dev.

SPEAKER_03 44:26

Titles, titles, titles, titles, titles.

SPEAKER_02 44:28

Well, it's just another form of a label, right? Creative director. Head of biz dev.

SPEAKER_03 44:33

Entrepreneur. Do you know how many producers I worked with in production? Everyone was a produ like on like the staff side, everyone had a producer title, whether it was associate or executive or line producer or head of production. It is, I mean, it's like vice president, like, not like the vice president of the United States. As in like a vice president of a company, I think these titles just get tossed around and they're largely.

SPEAKER_02 44:58

And like what is the job description?

SPEAKER_03 45:00

Meaningless, I'm not gonna say. Right. Are you just like no?

SPEAKER_02 45:02

I'm not saying I I'm sure I know a lot of heads of business development, and I'm sure some of them are very smart and have huge roles and responsibilities. It's just the most big vague thing I've ever heard. Like, yeah, what is head you are developing the business?

SPEAKER_03 45:19

Right. You are CEO, CEO.

SPEAKER_02 45:23

Are you head of sales? Are you head of lead generation? Like what? Head of growth?

SPEAKER_03 45:29

I've lost me.

SPEAKER_02 45:30

Business development, I just don't get. And it's a huge title that people strive for.

SPEAKER_03 45:35

And is is it one that is commonplace across the board in corporations?

SPEAKER_02 45:41

I in like startup like small business world, I think.

SPEAKER_03 45:45

Right.

SPEAKER_02 45:45

I don't know about like big corporate like banks and stuff.

SPEAKER_03 45:49

Are you a chief of staff or like you're developing the business? Because I thought that was what the CEO did.

SPEAKER_02 45:54

I guess that's sort of like employee one. I guess it's like the whole like entrepreneur culture too, which is ridiculous.

SPEAKER_03 46:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 46:00

Everyone's an entrepreneur.

SPEAKER_03 46:02

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 46:02

A term that's thrown around too much, and like aspire people aspire to be it way too much, which is an episode in and of itself.

SPEAKER_03 46:09

Whatever happened to like it used to be like just not there's also like all these a small business owner, like a slur now, like you have 30 employees, but like you're but like it's a small business. Like, is that like something demeaning? You're you like people just want to call themselves an entrepreneur? I don't know. Or like, does also does entrepreneur mean you've taken multiple whacks at a company? Like I started this company because I feel like a lot of your like LinkedIn verse that you're in, people are like, I helped fundraise for this company, you know, in the soda space, and then I moved on to like this chocolate bar company, and then I moved on to this candle company, and then I came back to the soda company and I got them their like round three seed money. Uh is that bad? Three seed money. And like then we IPO'd and two years later, and no. Um, I feel like that's like is an entrepreneur someone that's just bounced around, like basically a soldier of fortune, like a mercenary type that like start a company, sell, start a company, sell. Not unlike yourself. Oh man.

SPEAKER_02 47:09

I mean, I think I have an entrepreneurial spirit.

SPEAKER_03 47:12

Right.

SPEAKER_02 47:12

Some would like label me as a serial entrepreneur. I like identify as a small business person.

SPEAKER_03 47:18

Yeah. Um whatever just being like the small, like a small business owner, does that just mean like, does that just have like the mom and pop conversation and like people don't use that word anymore?

SPEAKER_02 47:28

Yeah, because it's not as like glitzy and like speak. It doesn't um translate to like as much money, I think. Right. People like entrepreneur, you must be a billionaire. I got $10 million for you. Or just like whatever. Like meanwhile, most people who do build things quietly are a lot more wealthy and successful than those people like building out loud on the internet, unless you're like Kim Kardashian, obviously.

SPEAKER_03 47:53

Or Elon Musk, yes.

SPEAKER_02 47:55

Well, whatever. There are obviously exceptions to the rule, but yeah, um, like less performance, more results, right? Like um, but there's I guess that goes into like a whole other world of it all goes back to the internet, should has ruined everything. Like all these these words, the speak, these labels, and then my other bucket was like all the acronyms that exist in the world now. That a number of acronyms that exist in consumer goods is insane. And not in liquor, definitely not on liquor. It's specifically to like TPRs, like all of these things that are like grocery speak, like total price reductions, or like I had to learn like a whole other language when I started the soda business.

SPEAKER_03 48:42

I have a theory about this.

SPEAKER_02 48:43

And then there's like the tech speak, which I don't even know, like TLDR.

SPEAKER_03 48:46

Too long didn't read.

SPEAKER_02 48:48

Yeah, I didn't even know what that. I knew it meant like I've known I know it means in like in some, but I didn't know what the actual letters stood for.

SPEAKER_03 48:55

Yes. So I've got a theory about like intra industry across the board terminology. Does it come out of necessity, like intra terminology within within a certain industry within the the low the larger economy? Does it cut is it like more like vernacular and a dialect that things just get skinnyed down because there's so much shorthand and all of a sudden everyone starts speaking the same language that works within PR, that works within super package goods, that works within production? Like there just becomes this inner dialect that like is a basically it's not a silent handshake because you're speaking it, but like it's basically an in-crowd. This is how we talk to each other because we know how to talk to each other. Is this out of is this a the natural way of things, or do you think this becomes in like a like um based on like a shared history of an industry? Or do you think this is a way to gatekeep an industry? I think it's actually a little bit of both. Like people, you go into you, if you were to go into a meeting with like, I don't know, you would understand what angel investors are saying, but I'm trying to think like something that would be like a PR company, and they really sat you down.

SPEAKER_02 50:03

Yeah, investors have their own, especially like in consumer goods, or at least in like DTC, direct consumer. Oh no, they say like CAC, customer acquisition cost, LTV, lifetime value, like all of this stuff. And it's hilarious that you would say like not hard to spell out.

SPEAKER_03 50:21

Not hard to spell out.

SPEAKER_02 50:22

Also hilarious that there is a term called lifetime value and an acronym for it in an in a space where like things have existed for six, twelve months. Like the lifetime value of our consumer is XYZ. Meanwhile, we've only been in in existence for nine months.

SPEAKER_03 50:39

Yes. Um so I I think it actually, I think all the shorthand comes out of just like just like, you know, um, a hive mind within an industry that's just like come up with like shorthand acronyms and everyone starts using them. But I also think it like kind of keeps people on the outside and also keeps that like keeps them needed. It keeps people employed in the sense of like, well, we speak this and we know what's going on, and like we can just like talk in this language and you'll be like, oh my god, these guys totally know what they're doing, they're totally experienced. It's yeah, it's it's too much. But every industry has this. I mean, think about what doctors like the the way doctors talk to like us laymen. It's like we didn't go to school for 40 years. You need to say, like, your blood is doing this, not like white blood cells and hemoglobin. And I'm like, I got a D in biology, probably, or a C tops. Like, we're not doing this right now. Like, dead or alive, is he gonna get out of here in five days? What's going on? Um, so I think there's, I don't know, I think it's like part gatekeeping and part just like a shared history and then how a language develops.

SPEAKER_02 51:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 51:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 51:39

In conclusion, my last one. Yeah. Which is more just a term than a label of a of a human being, yeah, is the deck. Because I'm sending my deck around a lot right now.

SPEAKER_03 51:55

It's fine. Deck fine, that's fine.

SPEAKER_02 51:57

Send me the deck. It it but it translates to everything. It's an umbrella. You have a deck? You gotta get deck? You got the deck?

SPEAKER_03 52:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:03

You have a deck, the deck ready?

unknown 52:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:05

Send me the deck. Deck, yeah. Deck, deck, deck. Like shorthand, like for like And I've thought it's ridiculous forever, but now like I'm having a lot of things.

SPEAKER_03 52:13

It totally makes sense. It's oh I'm deck ready? Deck ready for the presentation? What's deck at? EOD. I need the deck, EOD. Send it out to these people, BCC.

SPEAKER_02 52:22

Like the deck. Like, how did it go from PowerPoint presentation to deck?

SPEAKER_03 52:27

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 52:27

Who did that?

SPEAKER_03 52:28

I know. Where does this start?

SPEAKER_02 52:30

Hmm.

SPEAKER_03 52:30

It's called a deck. Maybe not using PowerPoint.

SPEAKER_02 52:32

And ask Chat GPT.

SPEAKER_03 52:34

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 52:34

Who named it the deck?

SPEAKER_03 52:36

Yes. And then it's gonna like why isn't it the presentation? It's gonna be like Venture Capital out of 2001, you know, when they were looking for fundraising. This started like emails between Meta Facebook at the time. They'll figure it out. But yeah, someone said deck and it like caught fire. So that's great. That makes total sense.

SPEAKER_02 52:53

God evolution of we're really uh our ev our language skills are really evolving at a nice pace in the right direction.

SPEAKER_03 53:01

Kids are not gonna have to read soon.

SPEAKER_02 53:04

No, we're not going there right now.

SPEAKER_03 53:06

We're not.

SPEAKER_02 53:07

But they're definitely gonna just speak in sort of tongues.

SPEAKER_03 53:12

Yeah. We use hieroglyphics. Think about emojis.

SPEAKER_02 53:16

On that rape and rave on labels.

SPEAKER_03 53:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 53:20

I think we will.

SPEAKER_03 53:27

Where's my deck?

unknown 53:29

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 53:31

Maybe we have time for a quick, a quick cheeky cocktail somewhere before even though I don't even know if I want to do that on a Monday night and tomorrow's St. Patrick's Day. I gotta be up. I'm reading what am I reading? How to catch a leprechaun. How to catch a leprechaun. We got homemade soda bread. Yeah. We're gonna make leprechaun trap uh traps.

SPEAKER_03 53:49

What liquor sponsors we shout now and beer sponsors? Guinness naturally. Gotta drink Guinness on St. Patrick's Day. Yeah, I'm a linear. Um I mean You doing a red breast for the Irish whiskey? We have to. I'll love to see. Jameson sucks. Sorry. That hot take. I don't know if it's like I feel like there's a shot. Done 200 million shots of it in your life. I feel there's a shot to Jorge every generation and microgeneration has to do. Jack Daniels, people did SoCo and Lyme, um, Jaegermeister, Jaeger Bombs.

SPEAKER_02 54:18

I'm not gonna, I'm not, I'm gonna be getting too much in the liquor space to be sorry, choosing. You can choose favorites. I can't choose favorites. I have Jameson's. But Guinness for sure. I mean, Guinness is a Guinness, is a Guinness on St. Patrick's Day. There's no there's no favorites there. That's just what you do. Right.

SPEAKER_03 54:34

Like, I'm gonna have, yeah. Like you think of a stout, it's just Guinness. Like they've won.

SPEAKER_02 54:38

We'll go to Walker's. Good job by you. Go to Walker. 4 p.m. dinner with a 4 p.m.

SPEAKER_03 54:42

Uh over under on how psychotic our kids are. Unclear. Maybe we should give them the guess.

SPEAKER_02 54:46

Just force ourselves to go and be tortured.

SPEAKER_03 54:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 54:49

Chicken fingers and fries and fries. As soon as possible. A Guinness for us as soon as possible.

SPEAKER_03 54:53

And a red breast. That's direct we're doing. Not Guinness. I mean, not uh Jameson's. Yikes. It's too real.

SPEAKER_00 55:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 55:01

It's rough around the edges. It's been a long time since I had one of those. Warm Jameson shots. Maybe we just try and go down like water. Maybe we just had like a bunch of refilled bot bottles and it was actually some trash. Really trash whiskey. Unclear. Um, it's good to be back. Yeah. If running a half marathon, make sure you get on the train like seven hours early. God, that was stressful. Get through security, get in the security line way faster than I did. Um, yeah. And go balls to the wall.

SPEAKER_02 55:32

And let's drop the labels. Drop labels. Especially women like use better language with each other. It's not helping us advance.

SPEAKER_03 55:40

Gotta say that. Women just got it rough.

SPEAKER_02 55:42

Yes. The glass ceilings. And we hold the fucking world. We are holding the world together. You gotta prop up all the ways, which is for another day, which maybe should be for next week because it's women's history month and I can go on a whole do a whole hour on that. Um it's related. Yeah. So use better words matter, and these words are not helping us.

SPEAKER_03 56:07

Messaging matters, guys. Yeah. We're in a time where comms and messaging is all that matters. You're a boss. Right. Period. Yes. Good night. Good night. Leader of women. All right. Thank you.