Spring Cleaning.

B + H : you never know what you're going to get.  We cover : Vegas -- pool parties, spray tans, craps tables, luxury travel.  Spring in New York City -- pedestrian traffic, the ice cream man, shirtless runners, park bathers.  Clavicular.  Social Media cases. Threads. RIP MTV -- Britney Spears + Catholic School, TRL, Carson Daly.

Transcript

SPEAKER_03 1:13

Good. Someone's gotta break out of that mold. I don't think I've ever worn maybe worn a design once. Very just solid color, so someone's gotta someone's gotta juge this thing up. It's you, naturally.

SPEAKER_00 1:27

Going back. Okay. Well.

SPEAKER_03 1:29

Mafia wife shit is back, but never really left.

SPEAKER_00 1:32

Maybe we should save this for when we actually edit from there. Anyway. No. Well of course not. Good evening.

SPEAKER_03 1:40

Good evening.

SPEAKER_00 1:42

You think I can time this the way you did it last episode?

SPEAKER_03 1:46

Well, you're also you're both delivering the intro and opening the can.

SPEAKER_00 1:51

Okay. Welcome to the New York Raised Us podcast.

SPEAKER_03 1:54

You're here.

SPEAKER_00 1:54

Brought to you by Rockaway Soda. A little slow. I'm doing it with my left hand. Okay, continue. And Oni's rum. Cheers. Cheers. Uh Harry has a flask. It's Friday night. We were just talking about how I like just looked in the uh the camera here at the studio. Yeah. And I'm wearing leopard pants and it's quite extra. But it's Friday night and we're going out for a little while after this. Yes. And we have a hot date. All we ever wear is black. Well, I'm wearing a black shirt and a gray sweater, but you know.

SPEAKER_03 2:32

I do more gray and green. You're very much team black. Hard. It's New York's New York's home colour. I bet Paris would contend with like if I had a tagline like when in doubt, wear black.

SPEAKER_00 2:43

I mean, it just it's slimming. Flattering.

SPEAKER_03 2:46

Can't see the stains unless it's yogurt, your child's. It's just better. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:51

Uh I like to wear a neon in the summer when I have a little tan. Even though like I don't even like to get tan anymore because I'm getting old and I'm so fucking fair that it's like you know you're old when you're like hiding under like a hat and an umbrella. Like you still love going to the beach, but you're like hiding under a big hat and an umbrella.

SPEAKER_03 3:13

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 3:13

And you've got like SPF 200 on.

SPEAKER_03 3:16

But some people lean into this orange thing, our president for one, and like many people are orange all year round. They've got it figured out.

SPEAKER_00 3:22

Yeah, I guess tanning salons. I don't know. Like when I was young and dumb.

SPEAKER_03 3:28

You have fake tanned.

SPEAKER_00 3:29

Uh yes, but I'm more just like in the summer, like, especially like living on the beach, like would just bake in the sum. And I would like, I remember one summer, like in between maybe freshman year or and sophomore year of college, I like came back to school and people are like, whoa.

SPEAKER_01 3:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:46

Are you a different race? It's kind of crazy how because like clearly, like my fair ass skin is not meant to be in the sun.

SPEAKER_03 3:54

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 3:54

Like my people are not.

SPEAKER_03 3:56

We're very northern European. Not from the places of the sun. We're from the fog and the bog.

SPEAKER_00 4:02

And like you're my skin's not supposed to get the color that I like trained it to get.

SPEAKER_03 4:06

No.

SPEAKER_00 4:07

Um, anyway, because of that was like the look, right? And like it is nice to like have a fresh tan, but like it does make you look healthy. Yeah. Like, and then you get to be 40 plus and you're like, eh, I don't want to be wrinkled.

SPEAKER_03 4:20

Don't want to be leathered back.

SPEAKER_00 4:21

Wrinkles and like, yeah, I know the whole thing.

SPEAKER_03 4:24

But that ties into what I'll talk about br soon, but you can just look crazy now. You can do the all the Botox and you just won't be wrinkly. I'm saying you proverbially, nationwide.

SPEAKER_00 4:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 4:36

You know, you can do the tanning, do the Botox, do the lips, and you'll just look next and have like that face, and you know what? Just lean into it. Don't no, you personally do not. You know I'm pretty angry.

SPEAKER_00 4:47

I'll do a little body tanning in the summer. Yeah. A little neon.

SPEAKER_03 4:51

Right.

SPEAKER_01 4:52

Maybe.

SPEAKER_00 4:53

I did last summer. I don't know what I'm gonna do this summer. We'll see.

SPEAKER_01 4:56

2026. Who knows? Probably just chase.

SPEAKER_00 4:58

Just like lie out with something totally over like the upper half. Even you don't even want like your neck and chest to the battery. Do what they do in Asia.

SPEAKER_03 5:04

Rock like the freaking.

SPEAKER_00 5:05

Then your neck and chest start to get all wrinkly and weird.

SPEAKER_03 5:08

I know. That's true.

SPEAKER_00 5:10

It's really gotta be like, I don't know. It's gotta be a fake, a good fake tan. I don't know, or like a spray tan. Yeah. A good spray tan. I've done a good spray tan in recent years.

SPEAKER_03 5:19

Those things survive the water.

SPEAKER_00 5:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 5:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:22

I get them before the last time I got a spray tan was when I went to Vegas. So like I don't know, 10 years ago at this point. Without me, yes. Not 10 years ago. Yeah, close to it. Eight. I think eight years ago was the last time I was like on a party trip in Vegas.

SPEAKER_03 5:38

Yeah. We're going for my 42nd birthday.

SPEAKER_00 5:41

Probably not.

SPEAKER_03 5:42

Go to the sphere. Metallica's playing that.

SPEAKER_00 5:44

See how many deals are done between them now and then. Maybe I'll get a spray tan. Although, like Vegas in October. Screw it. Is it warm?

SPEAKER_03 5:52

Screw it. Uh no, it could probably be pretty temperate.

SPEAKER_00 5:55

I can't even like the thought of being like I'm like crazy.

SPEAKER_03 5:59

Right now.

SPEAKER_00 6:00

Yeah, I'm cringing inside, like thinking about me going to get a spray tan and like you're having flashbacks of a decade that's long gone. Not even the No, I think you could go to pool parties in your 40s. You just gotta be like really out of the gen pop. Not that I was ever in the gen pop. You gotta have the bungalow. You gotta flex. Yeah, you're always I was always in a bungalow anyway, but like naturally. But you gotta be like uh there are people that are like up like tiers above. And I guess those have the hill live in the hills. Maybe those are like maybe like celeb celebrities are like high profile people. Not that they were ever at the par I don't think they were ever at the parties, but like high profile people who want to like really be out of the like they still want to hear the DJ and they want to look down at on all the other like regular people. And so maybe that's like where the 40-somethings can get.

SPEAKER_03 6:50

What do you think? What do you think that bungalow costs now? 25k? Or they're just like, we'll take anyone in fucking Las Vegas right now, pay us one dollar.

SPEAKER_00 6:57

I don't know what it cost eight years ago. I I I always feel like those trips were those weekends were such a blur, and then it was like blah, at the end of the weekend, like everyone knows five grand or whatever. So yeah. Whoever like put their car down on certain things, and like that was just for like the tables. I don't know. I bet Vegas can't remember.

SPEAKER_03 7:20

I bet I bet you could go to Vegas right now pretty cheaply. I understand it's in the struggle because all of us can gamble on our phones.

SPEAKER_00 7:26

Well, and then when I went on a girls' trip, like I've I've been there for a bachelor party. Uh bachelor party.

SPEAKER_03 7:33

Emphasize bachelor, not bachelorette.

SPEAKER_00 7:35

Yeah. Oh, you're swigging that flask is gonna get fun.

SPEAKER_03 7:39

You know, it was an I should light a cigarette here.

SPEAKER_00 7:44

At least.

SPEAKER_03 7:45

But maybe I should just maybe just here, just here. It'd be my persona.

SPEAKER_00 7:50

Um bachelor party, obviously, dudes are paying. So like I paid that time in terms of like if you're on a bachelor's party, ideally you're one of the dudes, you gotta pay too. No, yes, that's what I'm saying. Like, you know, you go, you get your bungalow. Obviously, I sp like we all split it, whatever. Yeah. And then that the la this the last time I was there was on a girls' trip. Just me and my two besties, Canadian besties. And then you don't have to pay for anything.

SPEAKER_03 8:16

No.

SPEAKER_00 8:17

And we were all married. Oh, actually, no, M wasn't married. And actually was just coming off a breakup at the time. But I was married, Katie was married. So it's not like we're like, you know. It's all right, just everything's free, it's fine. No, it's just interesting. Like you could just you don't have to pay. You know what the tagline used to be in basically unless you want to like not talk to talk to anyone. Which we we also had moments like that where like we need to like set up boundaries pretty quickly.

SPEAKER_03 8:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:44

Just like be in our own space. Yes. Um but it's funny how that how that works.

SPEAKER_03 8:50

So we can go to Vegas with our kids and like do family things.

SPEAKER_00 8:54

I'll get a spray tan for posterity.

SPEAKER_03 8:56

Sounds good. Um I've been to Vegas since I was 19 or 20.

SPEAKER_00 9:02

I've never done it like as an adult.

SPEAKER_03 9:07

You've only done it.

SPEAKER_00 9:07

Classy. I mean, can you do Vegas classy? I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 9:10

I think the pros can. They know what they're doing. I'm not talking about professional.

SPEAKER_00 9:14

If I go back to Vegas or when I go back to Vegas, it'll be like not that I still don't love to party, I do, but it will have to be like not probably not a pool party. It'll be like club or nighttime stuff.

SPEAKER_03 9:26

Yep, maybe see Lady Gaga. She's still having a lot of people.

SPEAKER_00 9:28

I mean, see shows, restaurants. I mean, I never travel for food. Like, we live in New York City. My dad told me that like a hundred years ago. Like, I don't go places to eat. Like, I have every the best of everything.

SPEAKER_03 9:41

You're not gonna be like super let down.

SPEAKER_00 9:42

No, but you can go to like, you know, whatever, our best restaurants in Vegas, basically. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 9:47

Wow. Shitting on Vegas.

SPEAKER_00 9:49

No, I'm not. I actually like like Vegas, like like in a weird way, like Vegas. But I've never done it.

SPEAKER_03 9:56

So your mother's certainly pro. Your mom used to roll the dice in Vegas as a young lady.

SPEAKER_00 10:00

Yeah, I like to gamble too. Obviously. Right. Usually on business.

SPEAKER_03 10:06

Maybe with livelihood.

SPEAKER_00 10:07

Usually with my family, career, and whole future, not just like on the craps table. But I like the craps table.

SPEAKER_02 10:13

Those are the realists of people that are like, well, we offer I offer my life. What can you bring to the table, as Jay-Z once said?

SPEAKER_00 10:20

I I like the craps table, and I only bet when I'm like in big I don't really ever go to a computer. Thank God.

SPEAKER_03 10:27

Because these fucking online gambling sites and prediction markets are ruining the society.

SPEAKER_00 10:32

The the point of like, I like to play craps too, and that's like very communal. Yes. When you're at the table. It is when you're at the craps.

SPEAKER_03 10:38

Damn, you gotta be able to take a punch quickly. Lose your money. ASAP.

SPEAKER_00 10:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:41

And if there's a troll at the table betting against shooters, I mean there's a lot of there's the fucking house is speaking a different language.

SPEAKER_00 10:48

Craps is like it's I remember the first time I played. I was in Vegas. I was there for work. I was still at the hedge fund, I guess. Yeah. And I was by myself, and I remember I was at the Bellagio and I stayed, I just keep going. No, I just remember checking in there. I was by myself and there was like a drunk guy. I I didn't even notice that he was like disturbing the piece, but apparently he was disturbing the piece at like the check-in counter. So when I got to the check-in counter, the guy was like, I'm really sorry for like the guy helping me check in was like, I'm really sorry for the disturbance. And I was like, I didn't even notice. He was like, Here's the presidential suite. I was like, cool. That's great. These things were awesome, especially. I was talking telling someone this recently. This had nothing to do with the fact that my like fund used a travel agency, but so I get upgraded to like the presidential suite at the Blagio, and then I'm there by myself. I was like, I think I probably called you and I was like, hey, have this ridiculous room. They sent up a bottle of champagne, and like obviously I drank it by myself in the room, but it's like pretty empty.

SPEAKER_01 11:52

Pre-Facetime or something.

SPEAKER_00 11:53

But then I drank the bottle of champagne, probably, and I was like, I'm gonna go play craft.

SPEAKER_03 11:57

What happens? My mom always talked about it. What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Oh America.

SPEAKER_00 12:01

I I lasted like an hour down there by myself at the crafts table. Then I was like, people are getting too close to me.

SPEAKER_03 12:07

I'm going back to naturally, naturally.

SPEAKER_00 12:10

Um, and so, but I used to get upgraded. I remember traveling for work because we used a travel agency, like a luxury travel agency, at least in the b before the market crash in 2008. And like you just get treated differently. Like I would roll up to like these ridiculous hotels, and it was so like, oh my God, in the beginning, because I was young and like, I mean, not that I hadn't traveled, but I it was just like the the service was like on another level, which you know has now turned me into a complete travel snob snob. Say it. Like I it's my one thing. Gotta own it.

SPEAKER_03 12:50

It is your one thing.

SPEAKER_00 12:51

It's my one thing, and like if I don't have the money to go somewhere, I'd rather just not go if I can't go. Big. Yeah. And I'm also content with that.

SPEAKER_03 13:00

So it's bus time in Vegas. We can go now on the cheap and let's just go. And maybe they'll like cop maybe they'll comp us.

SPEAKER_00 13:07

Anyway, so but I made a I made some money that night on the craps table, too. Best feeling ever. And it was the first time I played craps. And then the last time I was in Vegas playing crap, actually, no, I don't think I played much at the tables when I was on the girls' trip. When I when I was on the bachelor party at the end of one of the nights, me and my like two best friends, we had gone out by ourselves that night. And we come home, it's like four or five in the morning. We come back to the hotel, it's like four or five in the morning, and like obviously someone had a genius idea. I don't remember who it was. It could have been me to be like, let's just like shoot shoot some dice. Let's no one's in this fucking casino. Not many people are in the cass at the table at that point, except for us. There's no clocks. We lost, I don't know, several hundred dollars before our drinks came. It's great. It's like there's the cocktail we trust coming around. We're like, we're gonna definitely get a drink. The drinks come, and we're like already out of money.

SPEAKER_03 13:55

Craps giveth and take.

SPEAKER_00 13:56

That was the dumbest fucking thing. Like it's five o'clock in the morning. We did not need to go to the craps table. We should have just gone to sleep. Crapped up. This was just dumb. Yeah. Um, so it giveth and it taketh.

SPEAKER_03 14:08

Yeah. I didn't know we were doing a like a Vegas homage here. Shout out to Vegas.

SPEAKER_00 14:11

I don't know how we got on that tangent. Oh, spray tans, spray tans, leopard pants led to wearing all black, led to neon. You know, I was just texting with a friend earlier today, uh, who said she she happened to be listening to the last episode. And she's like, I just like spit out my drink um laughing at YouTube talking about Menchie. And I was like, Oh, uh, coincidentally, we're getting ready to go record now. Do you like have any topics you want to hear us randomly rant about? And she was like, Oh no, now that I'm on the spot, like my mind is blank. And I was like, Well, I can relate because I never know what's gonna come out of my mouth when I walk into that studio.

SPEAKER_03 14:51

Not at all. We always everyone's Mike Tyson summed it up best. Everyone's got a plan until they get punched up.

SPEAKER_00 14:56

We never don't even have a plan.

SPEAKER_03 14:57

Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_00 14:58

We walked here tonight, it's like pretty nice out. Spring vibes, 50-something degrees.

SPEAKER_03 15:03

Spring vibes, spring vibes comes with its highs and it comes with its lows. We gotta start, we gotta start crowd control. It's gotta begin. I'm gonna start.

SPEAKER_00 15:13

My beef with spring vibes is everyone's the thirstiest person ever.

SPEAKER_03 15:17

Present company.

SPEAKER_00 15:19

There are many beefs with it's great. First of all, the energy is great.

SPEAKER_03 15:24

Everyone's happy, moods are you can just feel like a whole New York move that we're negging it already, and it's not even a good idea.

SPEAKER_00 15:28

I don't know. You can let's start off positive. We've been we've been we're since we're a weather show anyway.

SPEAKER_03 15:34

It's true. Every 10 minutes. It was nice yesterday, it's not nice today. Like really nice yesterday. I know, every 10 minutes. It's windy.

SPEAKER_00 15:42

It's yeah, like I'm not complaining. It's a good everything is a good vibe. My biggest like beef with the turn of the season since having a now toddler is the fucking ice cream man. The ice we live on the park. We live on a park, and we like he the truck knows what it's doing. It's a park full of fucking kids everywhere.

SPEAKER_03 16:03

There's two trucks. They definitely vie for turf. And like it's drug dealer shit. And like drug dealer shit, for sure.

SPEAKER_00 16:08

I get it. First of all, it's not even good ice cream.

SPEAKER_03 16:10

It's like it's knock-off, Mr. Softy. It's the pink truck.

SPEAKER_00 16:13

I'm gonna It's not good. It's and I know, and I have like a little bit of PTSD about I have a little bit of PTSD about the ice cream trucks that look like this because when I had the distillery uh in the East Williamsburg Industrial Zone in Brooklyn, right around the corner from the distillery, was like a maintenance facility for food for ice cream trucks. Like they would go into this warehouse and get cleaned. And like the smell and the like, and I'm not even like a germier, I don't even get grossed out easily, but like the the smell that would come from that warehouse and the like sludge, sludge and like liquid that would pour out of it full of like ice cream or not ice cream anyway. So anytime I see trucks that look like this, they're not like you saw you saw how the sausage was made and you've been turned off every time. They're not even like good looking, like get paint your truck, like put a better picture of a ice cream cone on it or something. I don't know. Okay. Um but yeah, they post up. But it's a fight every day with our son. And like we've trained him. We've trained him.

SPEAKER_03 17:22

We have not trained.

SPEAKER_00 17:23

And like we think we've not neurotic about food. Food. He eats very health, healthy because he kind of wants to. I mean, it comes and goes in waves, but like he's very energetic and like he has sugar. You see, kids have sugar, and like literally instantaneously, instantaneously, it's like crack, crack coke, I don't know. Like, literally within seconds of them having sugar, they just booze their fucking mind. Our son is our son is a bit and then they crash, and it's like emo, and so on, and so forth. So, like every time we step out, which is a lot more thankfully, now that it's nice out, the ice cream man is there. And it's like Yes, an ice cream woman. He now knows that like ice cream day Friday is ice cream day, and he's accepted that it's a deal. He gets it every morning. He wakes up and asks what day of the week it is, and we give him other like quote unquote treats throughout the week that like are not ice cream, and then he gets ice cream on Fridays. But thankfully, now this is growth. He now understands that he's getting older. But yesterday it was like 70-something degrees. I was at work. I came, I left work early to, you know, come hang in the park with Harry and the kids. And I show up, and Neilan's got a cup full of ice cream and sprinkles.

SPEAKER_03 18:45

This could have been avoided, but I linked up with other nannies. It's strength in numbers from our building. So again, strength in numbers. The more adults around kids, the better. And ice cream was thrown out and like a Pavlovian dog. Uh, one nanny said she was gonna get her the her charges, the two two girls who are also her neighbors, ice cream, and ice cream was uttered, and then I didn't want to seem like a freaking total Nazi about not giving ice cream.

SPEAKER_00 19:13

No, you have to. You were peer pressured into letting me have ice cream.

SPEAKER_03 19:16

And then I like I would have done this thing, but I was like, no, it's like five-dimensional peer pressure. I like don't want the nanny to think I'm a total fucking snob about it. I'm not. I'm I try Coca-Cola when I was five years old.

SPEAKER_00 19:26

Then it's like, it's like other people like, oh, here's a bowl of sugar, bye. A million percent. And it's like, now I have to do it.

SPEAKER_03 19:34

Listen, I drank Coca-Cola, I drank Capri Sun. My parents were like, go have whatever you want.

SPEAKER_00 19:39

My parents were like, Oh, good, soda on Christmas and your birthday.

SPEAKER_03 19:42

Which better idea. I had plenty of junk as a child, you know, eventually growing out of it, ideally. Um, but yeah. Nanny's saying ice cream. I'm like, I don't want to seem like this guy that's like freaking Nazi Germany over here, not let allowing my kid to have ice cream. Then, of course, my son is excited for ice cream, his friends are gonna have ice cream, and then of course, we uh No, it was an ice cream social, and it was an ice cream social. We saw his whole entire class and everyone.

SPEAKER_00 20:07

Yeah, and then I was like, okay, you're not gonna you have ice cream on Thursday this week, you're not gonna have ice cream on Friday.

SPEAKER_03 20:12

We left home and he had ice cream.

SPEAKER_00 20:13

No, today did he have ice cream? Of course.

SPEAKER_03 20:15

Yeah, because he was We're in a tailspin here.

SPEAKER_00 20:18

Emo when I was leaving. It's a long time. And so I was like, I'll give you ice cream. You win. Here's ice cream. He wasn't even asking for it. I was just like, I can't see you upset with me leaving. Do you want some ice cream? These things start. Exactly. I think that's like how ice cream became that that's their business model. I mean, it is quite soothing.

SPEAKER_03 20:37

Oh, it's the best.

SPEAKER_00 20:39

It's very comforting. Yes. Um, but that's my like number one. No, I have two grievances, but I want you to talk because I feel like I've been No, you're fine. I feel like you have something to say about what goes on in in runnings since you only talk about running on this.

SPEAKER_03 20:56

No, I'm just talking about like this it's a whole vibe. The I think it's I don't know, it's called the Hudson River Park Way. So the promenade to the west side of the West Side Highway has been beautifully built out. Um, Bridge has gone to a fundraiser party for this part for this park.

SPEAKER_00 21:12

Yeah. PSA, especially to like style people listening to this, because we know what those piers looked like before any of this revamp. Yo, the Hudson River Park is privately funded. The city does not fund that. Which is wild. Wow. It is like funded by people who live on this island. And what what was the price tag to build this out? God knows, but holy good on anyway, just learned that. Yeah. Have now obviously contributed to it. And I feel good about contributing to it because we use it.

SPEAKER_03 21:42

That's precisely what the our fellow dad was saying. Is uh he's like charity schmerity, except if I'm like something I like, um except if it's something I like actually partake in and enjoy. And yeah, Hunts River Park, that's great, it's great for all parties. However, um, yep, 75 degree day in New York City, everyone. Wants to come to the lower s side in theory or wherever, Brooklyn Bridge Park. I get it. Whatever has outdoors. Vibes are a plus. Okay. But we got to figure something out here with crowd control. Am I even like defending?

SPEAKER_00 22:11

Is this a dictator?

SPEAKER_03 22:12

Yeah. We haven't had a dictator. I know, because I've been off my grind, but like this was this at home yesterday. So I'm running up, whatever. It is what it is. I know I'm like it's gonna be a stop and start situation. I didn't realize it was gonna be like a stop. Like now you're in like a flash mob situation. Um we gotta figure something out between the tourists, the residents of New York, the models that just come out of the woodwork and are like six deep. I mean, you guys can stick around, but like you guys have to figure out how to fucking walk. Like maybe not like fanned out across the models? Wow, this is serious. Um, yeah, and they gotta get baddies. They are they certainly are bad. They know they're bad. They're dressed, they're dressed with the gear. They've been training all year for this shit. I know what they're up to. Um, you look great, but you guys can't walk on a diagonal, like fanned out 50 meters across where like no one can get around you. Foreign tourists, act like you've been in a city before. You have, you're from Europe, you've been to a thousand cities, your entire fucking continent's a bunch of cities. Um yeah, but they're looking around. They are, but I don't know, two single file lines, guys. I it's like everyone just like forgets what it's like to be like amongst the public. And then also, last place, buy a lot. Dog walkers, dog, dog people. No, I might even blame the dog walkers, they probably gotta figure it out. The dog owners have their dogs on the leash and just like, oh, this dog's gonna frolic on its leash is like 12 foot extended. It's like, don't do that. Okay, what are your rules? Okay, first of all, American traffic rules, right? We drive on the right side, we're gonna run on the right side. Everyone stick to that shit. If you're a slow poke, stay on the right side, or if whatever you're taking it easy, stay firm.

SPEAKER_00 23:48

I think that the Europeans get confused though, because they're I think that's that's a British problem. It's not anyone else's no, I know, but you know you almost get killed going to London. You look the wrong way when you were crossing the street, even though it says on the like streets, look this way.

SPEAKER_03 24:01

That's my last thing would have been a bus, me getting hit by a bus. That was very real. Um so, yes, single file, single file or like two, two, you know, like a double line, keep it like pretty orderly, walk as slow as you want, run as slow as you want, but like this has to get better. At one point, I was just like in a crush of people. I'm like, this is where I die. So right by right by by us. No one knows what the hell is going on. Women are there to be seen. The guys with the shirts off are there to be seen. The tourists are not ranted about guys keeping their shirts on on this podcast yet. I'm I'm I'm opening the door because we are gonna talk about the degradation of American manhood at writ large because everyone is a fucking junior.

SPEAKER_00 24:42

You know, everyone's trying to flex.

SPEAKER_03 24:44

I know everything. They look good. They look good. Sure. Keep your shirt on. Mainly that they look good. Like three out of five guys are are fit with shirts off. Some are just complete slops. Sorry, I said it.

SPEAKER_00 24:56

I don't know. I just find it offensive.

SPEAKER_03 24:58

I know maybe I'm an older. You're puritanical, though.

SPEAKER_00 25:01

No, you're in public space. Like I maybe it is puritanical.

SPEAKER_03 25:06

Sure. The shirts off thing is, I mean like we're not at the beach. We're not at the beach, we're not playing shirts and skins basketball in an indoor basketball court.

SPEAKER_00 25:13

Like, people do it all year long. Like, men do it all year long.

SPEAKER_03 25:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:17

I mean, I guess women are doing it too now to a certain I mean they wear like a sports bra and like Yeah. Yes. It's very scantily clad. Yes. And then you got the park bathers. I think such grievance. Back to full circle, back to the sun talk.

SPEAKER_03 25:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:35

Yo.

SPEAKER_03 25:36

Park bathing.

SPEAKER_00 25:37

Stop putting your 55 degrees on out. 50 degrees out. You don't need to be in your like string bikini on the output. You don't need to be in your like string bikini on the brass. Right there. There are children, like, especially where where we are, it's like all like young families.

SPEAKER_03 25:53

Slash park bathers.

SPEAKER_00 25:55

No, that pier, I forget what pier it is. It's not far from us. It's like where um city winery is. Pier 26. 26, 25, 25. I feel like that's an adult, more adult pier. Like go wear your like string bikini on those day beds there.

SPEAKER_03 26:08

Meet the shirtless guy. You're in the bikini, do what you gotta do. Yes. Yeah, the shirtless guys can stay on that pier. I've seen many a shirtless guy there. It's probably a spot. It's probably a spot. But yeah, tidy it up on the fucking Hudson River Pool. I always feel like all you guys.

SPEAKER_00 26:22

I would never be I would never be attracted to a man that like ran around with his shirt off. Like good thing I don't. No, I would never tolerate it. No, you wouldn't. I wouldn't have tolerated it 20 years ago when we first started dating. And like, I'm no. It's so like ugh.

SPEAKER_03 26:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:41

It's so ugh. That's all I could say about it.

SPEAKER_03 26:44

Like and also run clubs.

SPEAKER_00 26:46

Like, cool, dude. Like, you got a good body.

SPEAKER_03 26:49

Run clubs. Everyone's doing it. I get it. It's a cool thing to do. You guys are making new friends in the big city. I'm all for it. You guys gotta keep it tight. Two lines. Two lines. Enough of this, like spilling out, like onto the tennis courts. That's it. Just gotta police the situation. Everyone remember what it's like to live in a city.

SPEAKER_00 27:06

It's like anything else in New York. Like they're the road rules are just wild. Or suggest. But I think it's just it's just more triggering when it's warm out. Like the bridge seasons are wild in New York because, you know, once everyone, once the summer hits, which is great, like everyone gets get out. Bye. Ten minutes later, we talk about weather again. Yeah. No, I'm just saying more like the people are gone, right? Like the su the spring, the like few weeks of spring and the few weeks of fall, it's like wild everywhere. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 27:36

Um and then everyone fan goes into hibernation or leaves the city. Yeah. Hibernation for the winter. I love summer in the city. Yeah, it's good. You can actually get into places. It's great. I know. Um, I'm just and just the degradation of American manhood. Um, there's this dude I've been seeing online named Clovacular. And his name is Clavacul. That's his handle. Who knows what he's on fucking Steam, Stream, Rumble, whatever these kids are on right now.

SPEAKER_00 28:00

What? I have no idea what you're talking. Literally no idea what you're talking about. Is this a is this a social media?

SPEAKER_03 28:05

I gotta just gotta yes. I mean, he's uh ultimately an influencer.

SPEAKER_00 28:09

No, what are the plat what are the things? Dream, Steam? What'd you just say?

SPEAKER_03 28:12

So there's things called platforms called, I believe Steam, and there's another one that might be gaming, might be rumble, that are like super third, fourth tier, but like allow next level behavior to happen without like any kind of moderation. I don't know if that's their you know, I don't know if that's their business model. But these guys have become obsessed with male looks and then they judge each other. And I I'll show you a picture. What are male look? Like they're apparently they're smashing their face and like to like redo their bones so they like they look like Jim Carrey and the mask. Like they look fucking insane.

SPEAKER_00 28:52

And like that's what's supposed to be looking good. They're they're trying to like Why is this guy clavacular?

SPEAKER_03 28:58

Clavacul, I mean he's made his made made his bones. Why is he the influencer on the look? Because he like knows he's got like what what is this like the He's like the Kim Kardashian for men? No, I think he knows a lot about facial structure and physical attributes, whereas Kim Kardashian is a doctor. No, he's a freaking, you know, some dude on the internet from like the manosphere and like trying to it's called look maxing. And these people look just look insane. And I'm wondering, is this like where manhood is this where masculinity is going in this country? Like they definitely take juice. That's your games. We're right there. Yeah, we're like we're we're we're a decade away from like people like with blue skin and like looking like tigers and shit. I I'm not kidding.

SPEAKER_04 29:47

Like we're fine.

SPEAKER_03 29:49

As I wear my leopard pants, like you're right. Maybe this is what's triggered me. Like, I'm looking around. I mean, my Instagram reel has really just got me pinned down right now.

SPEAKER_00 29:59

And I'm just like Instagram is such a cesspool. It's gotten, I mean, they just everything has be gotten such a cesspool.

SPEAKER_03 30:06

Right? It's as I like.

SPEAKER_00 30:08

I I I just like as I get into like thinking about, you know, what I'm gonna be doing with my spirits company, Oni's Rum and more to come, but uh, and just like what the um marketing plans look like. And I just can't, I don't see I don't see not that we're gonna go completely analog, but like I definitely don't see the return on investment with these platforms from a marketing perspective anymore. Like they are just so saturated, like it's beyond saturation.

SPEAKER_03 30:45

Yes, I think they do hunt you down pretty good. Like these things just you know this. Like you look something up and it just follows you like through websites, you know, through Google, through Instagram, like instantaneously. It's so creepy.

SPEAKER_00 30:59

I guess if you put I guess if your only sales channel is the internet, like if you're only a brand that sells through the internet, like whereas like this is a totally antiquated industry liquor liquor, and that's why I love it.

SPEAKER_03 31:11

Thank God, I think the physical space is like the only thing.

SPEAKER_00 31:13

Physical space, the way it's distributed, the laws. Everyone's most people see that as like a hindrance, and it is an annoying way to do it's an annoying way to do business, but I like it because it's so old school. Old school, a little ass backwards, but real people, real relationships, more to mouth, handshakes, yeah, real experience. Um anyway, I digress, but I was just you you were saying your Instagram reels, and I'm just like the it just feels like more and more of a like cesspool. And I use that term because actually um my one of my besties that we're going out with tonight, um described that, and I'm gonna ask her about this because I haven't seen her in a while. Uh like asked uh or described, she used the word cesspool to describe dating apps like six or 12 months ago to me.

SPEAKER_04 32:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:04

Cause she was, is, I don't know, I'll get an update if she still uses them. Um, and that's sort of like how I feel about Instagram. I don't even use any other social media app, so I can't even say anything.

SPEAKER_03 32:18

No, eventually, I mean I do Reddit, but Reddit's the same shit. It's like you really gotta X Twitter. Go on X and you'll find out. Like that's I've never was never even on Twitter. Horrifying. Um, no, but uh Instagram will lead you into threads, which is knock off Twitter because um, you know, uh the Are you on threads? Uh I hit do have a threads account and like occasionally I find my thread.

SPEAKER_00 32:41

You thread? Is that what you do? I sh maybe I should you thread?

SPEAKER_03 32:45

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 32:46

Maybe do you like tweet?

SPEAKER_03 32:49

Do you thread the? Because X was formerly Twitter? I know you X now. No, I'm not on X. Fuck that.

SPEAKER_00 32:58

No, I'm saying you like what's the like I have no clue.

SPEAKER_03 33:02

Um, and like, yeah, I don't know, thread, I don't know, post? I don't know. Oh post. It's but yeah, it's knock off, it's not knock off uh Twitter.

SPEAKER_00 33:10

Um they saw No, no, I see th I see getting to become part of Blue Sky, same thing. There's just X number of people on and your friends are on threads. You should get on threads. Correct. Threads with an S, yes.

SPEAKER_03 33:24

Threads with an S.

SPEAKER_00 33:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 33:26

Just more Zoc more money in Zocks pocket, not to be redistributed to society.

SPEAKER_00 33:31

Big news about social media, right?

SPEAKER_03 33:33

Yes, they lost a lawsuit. Uh Google and uh Meta lost a lawsuit. Um, where I'm gonna oversimplify this and just misconstrue whatever, but basically, like not that their platforms were addictive, but like I guess basically harming teens and just harming people in general. Um and they lost a loss lawsuit, which I think is gonna open a Canada, uh which I think is gonna open Pandora's box for them. I think a lot of states are gonna start suing these social media companies.

SPEAKER_04 34:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 34:01

Not sketchy, but like a mass shooter in Canada, like she was she was on open I uh she was on Chat GPT, which is open AI, like asking about uh asking nuances for you know for mass shooting, and she her account was flagged. I don't want to Okay, her account was flagged, and the bosses said just cancel her account. They did not do anything else.

SPEAKER_00 34:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 34:21

I don't want to yes, let's not get too dark. But uh it I think it's gonna open. I can't internalize this horror. Um Scott Galloway, I I will plug him, uh, always says that we cat has said recently we catch up to something uh that American society is usually 20 years behind. Uh a health, uh a health hazard, i.e. smoking. Um, and he thinks we're basically 20 years behind social. Like it's smoking's back, man. Smoking is a little bit back. But those people are just like, screw it.

SPEAKER_00 34:50

Um, but I've no, I mean, I know that like I've I've heard this and I've joked about it on the show, but like I've it it's been noticed. I'm not just like hallucinating this because you confirmed that I wasn't hallucinating this the other day. Like just walking around the city, like more people are smoking.

SPEAKER_03 35:07

I think people that were smokers that started vaping are back to cigs.

SPEAKER_00 35:10

Yeah, I think that's probably true because I think I've seen less vaping.

SPEAKER_03 35:14

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 35:15

I've seen, I mean, so I just see there's been years where like seeing someone with a cigarette was like a real rarity, and like, whoa, who are you?

SPEAKER_03 35:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:25

Now, like tons of people walking around downtown Manhattan smoking cigs.

SPEAKER_03 35:28

Yeah. Like for sure. $20 pack of cigs in New York City or whatever it costs now, who knows? Yeah. Um, but social media, I think they're getting their come up in now. We'll see. They lobby so fucking hard. We'll see if anything really comes out of this.

SPEAKER_00 35:42

But so what are their faces? What are these guys what I forgot his name already?

SPEAKER_03 35:46

Who, Zuckerberg?

SPEAKER_00 35:47

No.

SPEAKER_03 35:47

Oh, Clvacular. Apparently, they're faces.

SPEAKER_00 35:50

Is that his like last name? Or is it like a handle?

SPEAKER_03 35:52

Oh, like uh like that. Clvacular?

SPEAKER_00 35:55

He sounds like some superhero.

SPEAKER_03 35:57

Yeah, yeah. I think he thinks he's a superhero. Uh, but like is into like you eugenics and weird shit. And like these guys look men falling apart in this country. And have been too big of a topic to get into right now. That's I feel like that's the topic that's like the last decade plus of America.

SPEAKER_00 36:18

But they still run the world, like that's the thing. Like, they still control everything and have all the money and all the power.

SPEAKER_03 36:25

A real death grip on that, generally, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:28

I remember like a friend, a friend, a once friend of mine, an acquaintance at the time, he made this comment to me, but was like, it was like 10 years ago, more than that, 10 or 15 years ago, 10 years ago. He had just had a couple of children. He had two sons and a daughter. He's like, I'm really worried. He's like a very, very handsome white man. And he like said to me, like, I'm not worried about my daughter, she'll be good, but I'm like really worried about my son. A rich, should I say rich, handsome white man works at a bank, he's saying to me that I'm uh I'm worried about the future for my sons. Like, get the fuck out of here. It was like, I guess, like when DEI started to like come into vernacular and like, dude, you're you're fucking worried about your sons. Okay. Yeah. Get a grip.

SPEAKER_03 37:22

Yeah, that was truly that was cute for five years. It's been knocked right back down.

SPEAKER_00 37:27

It was just so dull. It's really not, it's like the most shallow thought.

SPEAKER_03 37:32

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 37:32

Like you haven't even really thought about this. It's just something you're regurgitating. Yes, you've I do understand there's a problem with some demographics of young men in this country. Yes, for probably a variety of reasons. Yes, and no one knows what to do with them. Internet, lack of work, lack of purpose, like women advancing a little bit more. Like, it's not like people are like, it's because women are graduating college at this like exponential rate and not marrying and not wanting to have kids. It's like 64%. It's a very small demographic. And like in the real business world, like, if you know, you know, like women have like 0.001% influence. If that like everyone at the top is a man, and every rich person is a man, and the well, but there's a big change coming because women are gonna be inheriting a tremendous amount of wealth over the next generation from the boomers. Yes, and it'll be so I just said interesting, but I can't fascinating.

SPEAKER_03 38:40

Fascinating has shift.

SPEAKER_00 38:41

Thanks. I could have just been like synonym for interesting, yeah, fascinating, intriguing to see what they do with the money. Yeah, like will they be better or worse than men? I don't know. I'd like to think better. Ask Mackenzie Scott.

SPEAKER_03 38:55

She just donates her money quietly. Worst woman in the world or was. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 38:59

We were talking about boss bitches, that term. Talk about women's history month as we close it out. Like Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 39:09

Ask Mackenzie Scott, Abigail Disney, and what's her name? Lorraine Powell Jobs. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:15

I know, but that's not my point.

SPEAKER_03 39:17

Like that's that's also the sad part is everyone I just mentioned is look what their last name is, and they've gotten money from yeah, a man that had made it. But yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:25

Did the man make it though, or did they really?

SPEAKER_03 39:26

Abigail Disney, she's part of the Disney family. Yeah, McKenzie Scott's Bezos is his ex-wife, and Jerome Powell is not no these people. Yes. Uh jobs. I'm not that ignorant in terms of like what goes on in the world. No, I know, but to your point, Boomer's dying, women outlive men. It's gonna go to the moms first or the wives first or what have you, or the daughters, and we shall see because there's gonna be, you're right, there's gonna be a little bit of a legopology.

SPEAKER_00 39:51

They call it like there's a this someone has a term for it, like the great transfer? Something like that. Generate, I don't know. I think it's like 13 trillion dollars. I'm making these this number up, but I think it's something. Because when you start talking those type of numbers, I'm like, what does that number even mean?

SPEAKER_03 40:08

It's like massive country GDP numbers. Well, I know that. Right, right. No, of course, trill. Like we're talking about trill.

SPEAKER_00 40:16

Yeah, trill. Yeah isn't Elon Musk a trillionaire?

SPEAKER_03 40:19

No, but if he uh checks some boxes once he like shows up SpaceX, Twitter, what is what's sort of called on X and Tesla, he's gonna like make one entity here, and he's obviously as bored as a bunch of Lexica fans that probably do what can meet with him um and are all billionaires because him. He is a a big ticket thinker. I'm not knocking Elon for that. He's just fucking crazy and stay out of politics. Um he his compensation package will exceed a trillion dollars, apparently, if he does whatever X, Y, and Z. And then colonizes Mars and becomes, you know, yeah, before that happens. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:54

Um anyway, back to some New York shit and some 90s things. I think we oh, we went to the garden on Tuesday. The garden. That was cool. We hadn't been there in so long. Yes, almost sadly. Almost around COVID. I know. We keep telling ourselves we can we're gonna go. It's just like I don't know, time marches on. Time marches on. It goes so fast, and then like I'm like, we're sitting in the garden, like, we haven't been here in like years.

SPEAKER_03 41:20

Our neighbors were kind enough to invite us. We had a good time.

SPEAKER_00 41:23

Yeah. PSA, they do two dollar popcorn on Tuesdays.

SPEAKER_03 41:27

I was shocked.

SPEAKER_00 41:28

Two dollar boxes of popcorn on Tuesdays.

SPEAKER_03 41:30

I didn't even buy it the first time he came by because I'm like, this, this, my brain's broken. This is not two dollars.

SPEAKER_00 41:34

What what's not that like you need popcorn or like whatever, but what in this city is even two dollars anymore? I'm like, this is the unless out of Madison Square Garden. Harry's like, I'll take 10. Yeah. The guy who was selling them is like, I like want to buy it.

SPEAKER_03 41:48

It's not because it was because it was two dollars, because it was two dollars, not because it was cheap. It was because it was so shocking. Our boy Ryan was selling the selling the popcorn. I'm like, You got his name. Yeah, of course, Ryan W. Um and No, he said two dollar popcorn. I'm like, it's not what are you talking about? Like, you're about to like hit me with something crazy. You're about to be like, and it's $22 because you also have to buy this like thunderstick. I was convinced this was some some con, obviously. And then it comes by, I'm like, is it actually $2? He's like, yes, there's nothing in the garden that's two dollars except for this.

SPEAKER_00 42:16

I'm like, I was like, there's nothing in the city that's two dollars. Nothing, not even a piece of it. And I had a little cheeky like Tuesday TWO. Yes, they probably made a thousand percent profit on their two dollars. Yeah, I mean it's like probably stale old top hole in the I finally threw it out today. Takes like costs like a penny for them to make it. I finally threw it out today. But still, it was it makes you feel good to spend two dollars.

SPEAKER_03 42:38

I took it home with me. I took it home with me. It was just, I was so shocked. Um, garden was great. Uh, next one beat the Hornets. It's good, but we don't go, yeah, don't go off enough. How can you? I mean, we bought a round of what, four drinks and $125.

SPEAKER_00 42:53

I tell the did we tell the COVID story on this podcast of the when we went to the garden during COVID? What? Vaccination cards, COVID tests. Speaking of just we were going out after this, like 500 people max there. At some point, we had been cooped up, obviously, everyone had been, and and uh just miserable and mad and sad and all the things. And uh she was and spending no money, so she was like out of nowhere, like, we can go to a suite at the garden for $500 tonight. Oh my god. Do you want to do it? And I was like, I think it was $500. That's what my recollection is for all of us. Yep. And all of us, it was like me, Jess, Harry, and my sister. So four of us. Yep. We could you could eat and drink whatever you wanted. There was no one in the garden. It was creepy, but like what an interesting like experience that I'll never forget. We had a suite. I don't know if it's a good one. We drank every we drank every single thing in the fridge just because like we could and we paid for it. And we're just like hanging out in an empty garden. The Knicks are playing. Yes. But so bizarre. What a weird time to be alive. But uh Kind like in the darkness of it all, it was kind of a funny, fun memory. We had a good time.

SPEAKER_03 44:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 44:06

Um, but anyway, we'll go back to TSA. They're gonna make two dollar pop court up the car. Your your ticket, I mean, we didn't pay for the tickets, we were guests of people, which was nice. Your ticket will cost you $500, but you can get two dollar popcorn.

SPEAKER_03 44:21

Yeah, they have monetized that play. There's nothing. Can't go to the bathroom without spending $50. It's incredible. It's a good experience, though. Fully packed. Um they'll make the playoffs. Ideally, we can maybe go to another game with our with our friends. Yeah, yeah, it's great. Um, but yeah, shocking. Popcorn.

SPEAKER_00 44:43

Did you forget the 90s things you wanted to talk about because you've been swigging O'Neis out of the flat? No, um, not really. Well, we I maybe we don't have like we wanted to dedicate a whole episode to talking about and we can we can tease it a little bit. Because we were talking this week, it randomly came up in conversation.

SPEAKER_03 44:59

There were just there's nothing nineties was peak American society. I know the boomers think the 50s were, but like not for everyone, let me tell you. Um nothing was better than the 90s, like it had all the beats of American society without like things spiraling out of control.

SPEAKER_00 45:16

I feel like you're gonna start going and now then that's gonna be a whole episode.

SPEAKER_03 45:20

Okay, and this is not some Bill Clinton.

SPEAKER_00 45:21

But I say I should save the OJ story for that because we were randomly talking about OJ this week, and I was like, oh, we should talk about this on the pod.

SPEAKER_03 45:28

Okay, we could save OJ, we could save Tanya Harding, we could save Bill Clinton. Well, this is just teasing. We're teasing, we're teasing in 90s. Anyone that listens to us is fucking 40 plus. Um, and shout outs to shout outs to you guys. The people that listen to the pod when it launches on Spotify within the I know it's very exciting.

SPEAKER_00 45:45

Some whoever out there has alerts set.

SPEAKER_03 45:47

We're gonna have alerts 13 of you.

SPEAKER_00 45:50

No more. 25 of you, two of you, whatever maybe like close to 20 people have alerts that you're downloading like immediate. You're downloading immediately as soon as we're gonna have a party at the garden.

SPEAKER_03 46:01

We're gonna have a sweet. So we see you and we love you. Yes, we're gonna have a suite at the garden. This is not happening. We're gonna like a pizza party in the park. Uh, but thank you. We appreciate it. Uh no, we do.

SPEAKER_00 46:12

I think it I mean, I know it I I think what we're maybe when I like have my launch party for my my my booze stuff.

SPEAKER_03 46:20

90s.

SPEAKER_00 46:20

We can tie in the episode, we can tie in our fan our our loyal fans.

SPEAKER_03 46:24

Live podcast before, during, and after the launch party, 90s themed. Hmm. Done.

SPEAKER_00 46:33

I'll think on that.

SPEAKER_03 46:34

I'm trying to think of all the time.

SPEAKER_00 46:35

That's too much to take on for me.

SPEAKER_03 46:37

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 46:37

Honestly.

SPEAKER_03 46:38

I was just thinking about like I've already forgotten half of what I just said. So I I was not really listening. No, we'll do a 90s themed launch party podcast prior, and then immediately just like saunter into a launch party. It'd be great. 90s themed. Yeah. I I I don't I think I think everyone then knows. If you know, you know. But like 94, 98. I I saw this on the internet too. Like peak, peak of American life. Oh, what else has been uh uh of the JFK show, I think, has got people like 90s New York City vibes ring.

SPEAKER_00 47:12

Oh no, I was just gonna think about other things that have been top of mind that we've been up to or talking about. Jay-Z, obviously, big news, Jay-Z. He's doing uh Brisbane Doubt and Blueprint at Yankee Stadium. Uh, do we did the ticket price?

SPEAKER_03 47:26

Do we know uh we're gonna be away that weekend, so we can one of my buddies waited online uh on uh whatever website, Ticketmaster, what have you rocking? I don't even know. Um swig of that? Yes, he sent us a screen grab, sent as in me and a core group of friends. Uh he was 927,101 on the list of tickets.

SPEAKER_00 47:47

So a million people I mean, do people really get tickets directly from like for something like that directly from the source these days?

SPEAKER_03 47:54

The gen pop does, and then they No, what are your chances? Terrible.

SPEAKER_00 47:58

I guess the days of like I guess back in the day you'd like line up around the block, right?

SPEAKER_03 48:03

You do the fucking camp out. Do the lawn chairs in camp out.

SPEAKER_00 48:06

Like tents and shit. Yes, you can't do that anymore.

SPEAKER_03 48:09

I I don't even know. No, that no.

SPEAKER_00 48:10

You have bots like botting, bot, whatever a bot is. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 48:14

What did you call it the other day?

SPEAKER_00 48:15

A bots form?

SPEAKER_03 48:16

Yeah, bots form. Yeah, that's another thing. A bots form from Botswana. I don't know. Like it's freaking like there are people, there's obviously people that have an inside track. There are people that are just gonna like crash the boards and try to sell these on a secondary market like StubHub. Um, and yeah, I mean he was 927, 100. So he didn't get tickets. No, and he looks like I'm gonna put his number out here as the over-under. We know nothing. But if like Poly Markets and Call she is like doing their thing, which you can bet on anything, dad. Yeah, I'm sure you could just look it up right now. What they're what he thinks uh um secondary market like way up in the nose bleeds is gonna be 800 bucks. And that sounds that sounds light to me.

SPEAKER_00 48:54

Sounds light. We already told the story on this episode on this podcast about our Jay-Z M M at Yankee Stadium.

SPEAKER_03 49:00

Getting fake Jay-Z tickets. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 49:01

So how many fake tickets will there be? And you gotta go find that man that so kindly eventually let me.

SPEAKER_03 49:07

So he retired with honors. I know. He has this special. Honorable mention, yeah. Um, Jay-Z, yep. Uh I people were he was on it. I saw I heard him on an interview talking about if he was gonna release another album, and he I think he basically ducked it. He's like, if it's not gonna be fire, like I if my music is not gonna be fire, like I'm on.

SPEAKER_00 49:28

I hot take, like, I don't want another Jay. I don't want another Jay-Z.

SPEAKER_03 49:32

But what if it was fire? I know what what what to rap about? It'd have to be six songs. I know.

SPEAKER_00 49:41

He's not your credit gone. I don't know. You're a billionaire. You're not, but like maybe close. Are they billionaires? I think they are. I think they both are individually. I don't know. Like, leave your moment in time where it was. I know. Don't like at come do a concert of that of that moment in time, kind of, but like no thousand percent. Times have changed. Times have changed, and your life has changed dramatically.

SPEAKER_03 50:07

And any any like brick, as Rosenberg and Cypher Sounds would call it, any like brick of an album is just a degradation of your legacy, right? We know this, like it never ends well. And like an athlete's always one or two years over the hill. A rapper's obviously like two or three years.

SPEAKER_00 50:22

Like, do I want to see these rappers like get together and like they're the only ones that matter anymore? Like battle each other. You want to I want to see a battle rap?

SPEAKER_03 50:28

We was all verses. That was like five years ago. These guys were still like pushing 40.

SPEAKER_00 50:32

Like these guys that are yeah, clips are in their 50s. Jay-Z would never get in a battle rap with Dipset.

SPEAKER_03 50:40

No, it's way beneath him. And they're dipsets, I know, but I think I think dip, but I think Shout out to Dipshad, but they're like long gone.

SPEAKER_00 50:46

Jada would like kind of sun them.

SPEAKER_03 50:48

Wait, Jada's the locks.

SPEAKER_00 50:50

No, I know. I'm just thinking about versus sorry.

SPEAKER_03 50:53

No, if we're doing a bird versus okay, a live versus thing, oof.

SPEAKER_00 50:57

Let's get Eminem in the mix.

SPEAKER_03 50:58

I mean, Emin Ed would no one wants to go in there with Eminem. No one. No one. If you're doing like just like a song for song thing where it's not like interacting with the crowd and dropping diss tracks, then no one has Jay-Z song out of the city.

SPEAKER_00 51:11

No, I want to see like an eight-mile freestyle battle.

SPEAKER_03 51:14

No one wants Eminem made a movie uh thriving in this art form. It's not, yeah. I mean what a gem. So speaking of something coming out of the 90s that like just will not be appreciated. Yeah, how good Eminem was. How good Jay-Z was. This is like long, this is like becoming lost information, even though all their music is on Spotify and Apple Music and whatever else you guys listen to.

SPEAKER_00 51:35

So legendary.

SPEAKER_03 51:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 51:37

Oh my god, and just how addictive that those those songs.

SPEAKER_03 51:42

Larger than life. Like rap songs used to be over three and a half minutes, people. I promise. Now, like I don't even know what new rap songs are. Some of them are some of them are a minute and 50 seconds.

SPEAKER_00 51:52

I don't I don't know. You don't even I only listen to music that I listen to. That's just like in our like when I was like a teenager. Like on the old time capsule. I really do though. Why would I?

SPEAKER_03 52:00

Of course, that's when you're that's when your tastes harden.

SPEAKER_00 52:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 52:03

Style. Every old style is hit in your 30s. But yeah.

SPEAKER_00 52:07

Um but I would like to see them all in a battle rap. I'd go to that. I I'd wait in an online queue for that. I'd do a bot swarm for that. Bot swarm?

SPEAKER_03 52:17

Okay. That's not a term, but I don't know what they're called. A bot horde, I don't know. Um brigading. Gen Z, get in our DMs, even though none of you listen. We've shot on you way too many times. Listen to Jay-Z and MM. I've already said this. I'll keep I'll keep my messaging consistent. Just keep batting uh hitting you guys over the head with the classics.

SPEAKER_00 52:37

I know. I was thinking about MTV. R.I.P. I don't think we ever like did an R.I.P. MTV on this on this pod.

SPEAKER_03 52:45

We can. We wouldn't to do it right, we'd have to get someone from Gen X here too. They like Gen X is MTV.

SPEAKER_00 52:51

No, everyone's afraid to go. Like, we were like, oh, we're gonna have so many guests on this show, and then like Yeah, well let you talk. We were about to have a guest tonight.

SPEAKER_03 52:59

A doctor or that. We could No, she didn't want to. No, she didn't. It would have been fun though. Um but if we're doing an MTV, if we're doing an MTV deep dive, it we have to have someone from Gen X at least give me give me their inter I will TV. I'll be their mouthpiece.

SPEAKER_00 53:15

Like TRL. I mean, all of these rappers, like just I mean, also then there's like 106 in park for more rap shit, but like TRL and like peak music video, peak music video. Just like people waiting in line to like get to TRL. Beyonce was on 106 in Park Parade, but I mean the Destiny's Child was, of course they were.

SPEAKER_03 53:33

That was that was talking about TRL now. No, I know, but I'm saying I just mentioned 106 in the park. No, like yeah, anyone who's anyone had to be like TRL made Britney Spears, made Backstreet Boys, made Limp Biscuit, made Eminem, like for sure.

SPEAKER_00 53:46

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 53:47

MTV, people would wait in Times Square. 100%.

SPEAKER_00 53:50

It's like such a cultural movement, right? Like there's nothing, there's no one entity like that anymore. Not even close. Obviously. Not even close. Like the epicenter of so much control over like popular music. Yeah. Popular music.

SPEAKER_03 54:06

Yeah, showcase matter.

SPEAKER_00 54:07

And then it like evolved into like other weird things.

SPEAKER_03 54:11

Reality TV. And then it just fizzled out. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 54:14

I guess reality TV and Cribs. I think we've talked about Cribs.

SPEAKER_03 54:17

Cribs, 16 and Pregnant, Real World, all this weird shit. 16 Teen Moms. Teen Moms. So yeah, Teen Moms, 16 Pregnant, same show. Jersey Shore. Jersey Shore. Yeah.

unknown 54:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 54:29

And I think I think that's news too, actually. I mean, I know they've been making Jersey Shore seasons, like I think they're still make they're still filming.

SPEAKER_03 54:37

These people are parents and 40 years old.

SPEAKER_00 54:38

Yeah, and I think they're moving to another network now.

SPEAKER_03 54:42

Go figure.

SPEAKER_00 54:43

I think I saw a headline of that of some sort.

SPEAKER_03 54:46

Okay. But anyway. How the mighty have fallen.

SPEAKER_00 54:49

Carson Daly. TRL.

SPEAKER_03 54:52

Mm-hmm. Wild. Just look at a Google image of Britney Spears in 2000 and a Google image of Britney Spears in 2026. Sorry, Britt. Sorry this happened to you, but you were on top of the world.

SPEAKER_00 55:02

What does that have to do with MTV?

SPEAKER_03 55:04

I feel like.

SPEAKER_00 55:06

I don't know if also that's 24 years. And poor Britney Spears. That's a whole other topic that she was.

SPEAKER_03 55:16

I don't know if anyone. I don't know if any two entities like worked more for each other than MTV and Britney Spears. Very close.

SPEAKER_00 55:23

Hmm. Interesting take.

SPEAKER_03 55:26

Yeah. Of all, even more than Madonna, even more than Michael Jackson.

SPEAKER_00 55:31

I don't know if that was the time.

SPEAKER_03 55:32

The timing of the Yes, I don't know. And TRL.

SPEAKER_00 55:35

I mean, you obviously everyone I think anyone who's listening to this and knows what we're talking about, the first image is like the Catholic school like video.

SPEAKER_03 55:44

That's the number one song on TRL. Yeah. Yeah. Like her being there and like holding a mic with like those weird pigtails and like the weird pigtails. You've liked that. That's the whole point. It's a fucking honey trap. I was she over 18 at the point. I mean, I wasn't even close to 18. I was 14 when that song came out, so I can be into that. Um, but yeah, that was the whole point. It's scandalize this poor young lady. Um, but yes, I don't think anyone has had more of a symbiotic relationship with MTV than Brittany Spears. And vice versa. Well, Gen X, check me on that, please. You guys have a more intimate um we'll save we'll save it.

SPEAKER_00 56:19

We'll have a 90s themed episode. Yes. In this when is the spring? In the next few months.

unknown 56:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 56:25

When is this?

SPEAKER_00 56:26

Because we're not gonna be recording for a couple of weeks because we are it's a better cadence every week off to Florida.

SPEAKER_03 56:34

We're going to Florida.

SPEAKER_00 56:35

We're going to Florida.

SPEAKER_02 56:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 56:37

Even though I've, you know how you are you all already know how I feel about Florida, but we're going to Disney. My mom's birthday. She's taking us to Disney, the kids mainly.

SPEAKER_02 56:46

Pray for us.

SPEAKER_00 56:47

It's going to be great. We're staying at a really nice hotel, and like we'll go to the parks in the morning and then we'll just sip wine at the pool all afternoon. And it'll be warm. Traveling with kids obviously is a nightmare. We have already belabored that. But I'm not going to talk about the present airport. If the four of us, if if there are going to be on the way down there, there are going to be four adults to two children, and on the way back, there are going to be five adults to two children. If we cannot handle that, like there's something seriously wrong with all of us.

SPEAKER_03 57:19

Fair.

SPEAKER_00 57:20

So we'll be back with Disney updates. Yep. A 90s episode.

SPEAKER_03 57:25

Dealily TSA is getting paid and back to work.

SPEAKER_00 57:28

Yep. Yep. Oh yeah. That's on new federal government. Harry's holding a lot of angst about what's happening with not angst, um, anxiety about what's happen happening with TSA.

SPEAKER_03 57:37

I've set the bar super low.

SPEAKER_00 57:39

And I'm just not thinking about it because what are we gonna do? Like it'll be what it'll be.

SPEAKER_03 57:43

Right. Whatever. Sure.

SPEAKER_00 57:45

I appreciate that. Um yeah. And if you are one of our loyal listeners, thank you. Yo, anyone out there who's like religiously listens to this show and like wants to hear a certain topic, like slide. I think you could text the show and also like if you're my friend, just text me directly. And if you're not, like, just slide into our Instagram DMs. We'll do a full mailbag. And that'd be great. That would be really fun if we did an episode, like just shoot us random, random topics. Yes. Um, I'm happy to pontificate about it. So that's that's my ask for the next couple of weeks as we are.

SPEAKER_03 58:21

Especially if you're someone we don't know personally.

SPEAKER_00 58:23

That would be awesome. Yeah, we'll be back in mid-April. Damn, time's flying.

SPEAKER_03 58:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 58:31

All right. Post Disney. Friday night, we're going out. We got the babysitter for another couple hours.

SPEAKER_03 58:36

Post Disney where people wear dad.

SPEAKER_00 58:38

I was just saying goodnight. Yeah, what are they called? All right, we already talked. Girl dads and mom boys. You had too many swings. I did. I know you did. You're giddy.

SPEAKER_01 58:47

I'm gonna light a cigarette now.

SPEAKER_00 58:48

No.

SPEAKER_01 58:48

All right. Good night, everyone. Cheers.