Unbalanced.

The usual NY Bullsh*t topics : Canal Street African handbag mafia updates, extendable dog leashes in the city, teachers having affairs with high school students, mediocre private school kids vs mediocre public school kids, new New York City taxes, Door people, Spring Break recap : Disney World review, business ghosting, business flaking, business dating, ChatGPT, breathwork, balance, H's phone is unbalanced, WHY CANT UBERS AND TAXIS PULL OVER TO THE CURB TO LET PASSENGERS IN AND OUT?

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:01

Good evening.

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Good evening.

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Welcome to the New York Raised Us podcast. It is Friday night, April 17th, 2026.

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Also correct.

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It's been a minute since we've been on the mics, but happy to be here. Oh, yes. Most importantly, brought to you by Rockaway Soda and Oni's Rum. Correct. Harry has a flask because it's Friday night. My new feature. It's his new thing. Not a hard task. You know. You know, if it's Friday night. It's Friday night.

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It's true. Friday night.

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We have what do we have in the flask tonight? We have half Oni's, half driver mouth.

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Half drivermouth, correct.

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It's great. 50-50 martini with rum.

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Your drink of choice.

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Yeah. One of my drinks of choice. Yes. Um God, where do we begin tonight?

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Real quick. We're so back on canal. We're so back on canal.

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We haven't done canal. We haven't hit canal in a while. I mean, we walk up it every time we come here, but like we have not discussed it in a while.

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So fucking bad.

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It's about 78 degrees right now on a Friday night in April, which is like summer weather.

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No humidity. It's uh it's perfect.

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It's like feels like summer in the city. Weather's gonna drop. Oh, I forgot we're a weather podcast. I mean, every 10 minutes.

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Every 10 minutes.

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You know, it will probably it's gonna it's gonna be 40s and 50s.

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But anyway, it's summer in the city right now. Open feeling themselves. A lot of park bathers, but really Canal Street, the handbag mafia, glorious. I'm seeing family members. I've never seen women there. I've seen women and children now. They're they must be so confident in their standing. I that's more than I've ever seen. Um it's party. It's party, it's a party vibe. Uh big vibe.

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Especially at this epicenter, which we've determined is church and canal, uh church and canal, the east, the southeast corner by the smoke shop.

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This is this is what it is. Canal is canal is really, let's just say the center part of canal. There are two clans that are just not that clearly have some spoke like spoken or unspoken rules that are not gonna clash with each other. We got the African handbag mafia team, and then we've got Chinatown. I want to say center or Lafayette is the DMZ. Once you go east of Center Lafayette, you're in Chinatown. I don't want to hear your handbag mafia shit. However, the Chinatown folk respect that west of Center Lafayette is where the handbags are gonna proliferate.

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Yes, but there was a a can, a Chinese can lady walking through the African handbag mop. She's got diplomatic immunity. Those women with their contraptions, like they've got like what do they have? Like 10 I I guess it's not that heavy because it's empty cans. The aluminum cans and plastic cans. But like the way they hook them to poles and carry like hundreds, thousands of them, whatever that is.

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And thank God they do, right? Because how many, how many cans and plastic bottles would still be on the street if it wasn't for these people? Um I think they fished them out of cyclic. It's all the above. It's all the above. Don't get me. Yeah. Um, but impressive showing. The corner, the southeastern corner of Canal and Church, grills, spliffs, babies, break of tone. Which I'd never seen. There was some dude whose mouth was so open and was so frozen in time. Oh, this was a guy. This was not related. Unrelated to the handbag mafia, but might have been smoking their shit.

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This guy looks so fucking odd.

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K2? Question mark. He was floating. It was like, I haven't. I don't think it was, I don't think it was heroin, but it was bad. Right? If you snapped in his face, I don't think he's moving. He was just mouth agape in another dimension, not folded over, but sitting as one would if they were like on the precipice of yeah, going to another dimension. So shout outs to 78 degree weather New York. Shout outs to Canal Street, handbag mafia. I'm glad you're back. Yeah. You withstood a nice sweep. NYPD can't do shit, apparently. Because you're just, there's so many of you. What do you what do you even do? Um, and good on them. And I've saw women and children, so like they must be here, care for good. Um so we're back. Yeah.

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New York City's so content capturing, not even creation, good content everywhere in New York when it's like the bridge seasons. Correct. Oh my God. I feel like we ranted last episode about the West Side Highway and you know, the people situation there. Um, maybe this will be like a seasonal bit for us.

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Yeah.

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But I'm kind of with you. I have two points, two comments.

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Please.

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Number one, I'm with you with the the, I'm usually the dog defenders. I'm defending the dogs, owner. No, I'm defending the dogs always. I don't know about the owners. But yo, you cannot have these extendable leashes in the city. No. Like that is for upstate or like in less densely populated parts of the city. One person on the sidewalk. Like, you can't just like have like it's about like perception and spatial, like, why am I not getting the words, but like understanding person, not even personal space, but how are you to walk when like you can't judge where the dog is going? As a pedestrian on the street, the dog is like not on a six-foot leash. It's on a leash that's like going whatever. You don't know how long the leash is gonna go. So, how do you know how to fucking walk around the dogs and the the owners? Like, yo, that is not for city dog living. Like, keep your dog on the six-foot leash. That's my one thing. I know you kind of touched on that at some point. I did.

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I rolled up on a girl that had a like You're personally gonna trip someone.

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Like, that leash is gonna trip me and your just annoying. I won't get hurt, but like an older person, a baby, like whatever.

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Just keep your dog on a normal leash. And if your dog got hurt somehow, the person that was did the affliction or the person that caused the accident would probably be like stomped to death right then and there, because people love dogs more than they love human beings in this country, and it would be a whole thing. So I'm totally with you. These dog walkers are like It's not the dog's fault, though. It's not even the no, these aren't the dog walkers doing the 12 foot leash shit. It's not, it is an owner. You are in your own fucking world talking to someone, staring at the phone, having a FaceTime call, andor on your headphones, and your dog is 20 feet out. So like you're it's so many things. Like you're done. You're done. You're chopped. What do the kids say now? You're chopped. You're they do? Yeah, this is new. I'm probably using it poorly. Uh, but don't do that ever again. Like get your dog on one of those old school thick leashes. Enough. I don't care how well behaved your dog is, and it's a fucking service dog and all this stuff.

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You need to be judged where the radius of the dog is.

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On the the Hudson River Greenway or whatever we call it, the promenade. I call it a million years. This is happening on the street too. Enough. Get them on the old school leashes. You don't need to get like get I don't care. All right, what's your next complaint?

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Not even a complaint, but today I witnessed.

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Yeah. I was great. Probably a fucking look mat. Look at that.

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Our daughter for a checkup at the doctor, and there was someone running on the West Side Highway, like a 20-something shirt man, male, shirt off. In theory. Ugh. I already ranted about this. Yeah. But holding his phone like up at like a good angle, quote unquote. Like not even talking to the camera, just running, holding his phone. Yeah. Like, I just want to kill everyone.

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Yeah. It's done.

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And I'm having a really hard time with this because we have two young children, and I'm like, I hate the world.

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And I really need to change my mindset because last night, I think it all, I think this is all kind of s like settling in on you. I've had these fears for a while, but that we have seen a golden age for our civilization, maybe globally, certainly as a country, and like we are probably past that. And our kids might have it way worse than we did. At least we had a theoretically pretty idyllic childhood. And then things got dicey come 1998 to. But yeah, everything's worse.

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Everything's I'm just going through my in my head a list of things that I've seen on our corner this week. Another oh, today we saw a a teen from Stuyvesant raving, which I was like, oh, kids still rave, like doing rave dances. Is that what he would call it, right? Like we did those love sticks when we were in high school.

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It was a rave vibe.

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He was raving. And I was like, oh, kids still rave. Interesting.

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And I said, it's because these kids don't have any culture that they've adapted on of their own.

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There's no culture that also finally, as most anyone who listens to this podcast knows, I've like talked about I Went to Stives in High School and we live right by there now. And I finally saw I graduated 24 will be 24 years. 24 years ago.

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End of the school year.

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June. Yikes. Uh and I saw for the first time from across the street a teacher that taught there when we were when I was in high school.

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When he was a young man, you were much younger like me.

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Well, yeah, I think he probably started teaching there like sophomore junior year, something, not senior year, but not at the beginning. So he was probably 22. Let's say 2000 for and so I grew up I have a group text with my boys from from high school. We get together a couple times a year, and I'm like, yo, I just saw so-and-so. I'm not gonna disclose this publicly because what I'm about to say probably shouldn't be public.

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Mr.

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So so-and-so, he was a gym teacher, not the gym teacher that had an affair with the Hunter student that was my if we're playing guess who, guys, you guys can see.

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No, this is the new one.

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He was like, and one of the my my boys was like, yo, that's the one that like so-and-so slept with. And I was like, Oh yeah, I forgot about that. You didn't tell me that.

SPEAKER_01 10:15

Oh, you didn't tell me that part. Yeah, and I was like, Wait, he he it was she oh, she graduated.

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Apparently, it was like or he somewhat normal.

SPEAKER_01 10:24

Yeah, teachers of my high school did the same.

SPEAKER_02 10:26

Wait until waited until they were at I mean, it was not normal, but maybe I don't know if it was before or after graduation. She was probably 18 and he was probably 22. He was right out of like school, but still weird.

SPEAKER_01 10:37

The word you want to use is actually more commonplace than you would have expected. Normal, questionable. Yeah, a lot of teachers of my school did that as well, as well as sleeping with underage kids. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:45

Yeah, there were pedophiles in my high school, but this was like a consensual like thing because he was like sort of, but still it's it's it's a lot, right?

SPEAKER_01 10:53

Because like like the English teacher in my high school went to Beacon High School. If you guys want to connect the dots, you can figure out who this is. Um, she probably had this student when he was in female English teacher, go figure. This goes both cuts both ways. This is wild. Um she waited. No, she waited until he graduated. I mean, yeah. I mean, like, this is multiple, multiple teachers of my school. Multiple. Well, there was that uh Horse Man or Fieldston teacher. No, St. Anne's teacher. I didn't read the article in New York Mag, apparently entirely predatory. So yes.

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So yes, this is I mean Well, the article this week in har about Horace Man, like in New York Mag, like written by a guy who graduated there in '97, so like sort of our age.

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And said we were the mediocre class. I got paywalled. Fucking A man. Come on, New York Mag.

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Basically, just like I think the tuition then was 15 grand. And I think inflation adjusted, that's probably like 30 grand now, 30-ish. You tell me. Uh, and tuition there now is like 70 something. It's more than doubled.

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Yeah.

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Um, go figure.

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Not go figure. Of course it has.

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It's interesting because like I obviously have my own takes. We've talked about public versus private schools on this podcast before, and I have my own experience. We're proud New York City public school kids, and like, but we had mainly proud. You should be. I'm proud.

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You should be, certainly. Yeah.

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Um, not the we had like friends in here and there in private school, and you have to like draw comparisons to like quote unquote societal success at this stage, and kind of undoubtedly the public school kids win. Um and so it's interesting to like have grown up with that and now be a mother in like with some people who are not, like, it's just a whole thing, and obviously so much has changed, and who knows if the kids I knew that went to private school were just like the mediocre kids or like whatever.

SPEAKER_01 12:51

I mean, they all got like 1500s on their SATs. So the normal barometers for achievement and smarts, they had it all. Yeah.

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But uh Yeah, I mean they didn't necessarily I mean, this is a th this is a also this is a sociological th like.

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When your parents are successful as fuck, yeah. I'm not talking about making I'm talking about making tens of millions of dollars or hundreds of millions of dollars and not inherited money necessarily. We I mean like literally six fig uh nine figures, or maybe one of the greatest directors that's ever existed in America. Um, it's pretty tough to one be hungry to and then want to like achieve when like even you when you've grown up with like you can't even possibly imagine hardship, right? If you were child, if you're a scion. You know, our buddy went to school with a Tish. The Tish owned the Giants. Half of an NYU is named after the Tishes. They fucking have a hospital, right? Like they're also in the Epstein Files. Go figure. Um, but you know, I mean that's a sign of fucking success, to be honest, um, at least for the men, um, in terms of monetary value. Um, you know, I I I I I don't empathize. I sympathize that it's probably very tough to be a real striver when you've one had everything laid out for you in life and by but in but and some, and also you there's a very good chance you'll never be as successful as your parents.

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Yeah.

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Um, like very good. Um so yeah.

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Interesting. That's like a it's a it's way too deep of a topic that you could do a whole season of a podcast on. Yes. The sociological reasons, some are different than others. Yes. And everyone's a unique individual, and what even is the definition of success in life? We know what like Yes. We know what like U.S. capitalism is America.

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Exactly.

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Uh but anyway, just anecdotally Saw teacher a headline. I saw a teacher, thought about high school, Harzman article this week. Didn't tell me he had had a shot. I forgot, I honestly forgot about it until I hit up my group chat and then like one was of age, was of age. Presumably we were seniors. She could have been 17, but you turn 18 senior year. So ideally. Yes.

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Uh while she was a student or after she graduated. I don't know. Okay.

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You want me to hit up the group chat right now and be like, do you remember the details of 25 five years ago when like so-and-so did this, pr allegedly did this?

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I'm sure we can find out quickly. Facebook birthed it, and here we are. Uh, but let's not end someone's career inadvertently. Um, yeah.

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Anyway, he's still going strong uh at Stuyvesant. Yeah, didn't as as he he probably what if it was 24 years ago and he was like 23 then, he's what, 57?

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Good for him. Ten years.

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Wait, no, 47. Am I doing the math right?

SPEAKER_01 15:43

You went to Stivesin.

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No, yes, he's only a few years older than us. Correct.

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Yeah, you said he'd been with a student and not a big age gap. Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I know. My buddies and I have talked about how.

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It's so interesting, actually, to think of it that way, because the reason I just had a slip of the tongue, because he f felt young, but still a lot older than us.

SPEAKER_01 16:03

My high school had a lot of young teachers, and it's that's kind of wild. They're not that much older than you are.

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Yeah, but it f it felt like he was a lot. I mean, there's a difference between like a there is a each year matters. A big difference between like a 16-year-old and a 22-year-old.

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Yes. And each year matters.

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Now there isn't much of a difference between a 42-year-old and a 48-year-old.

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Yes. Uh yes.

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Which is why I aged him 10 years, probably. Um anyway. Interesting. Yeah. Uh lots of random things on the corner that have now distracted from the topics we probably wanted to cover on this episode.

SPEAKER_01 16:41

Talk about the the Magic Kingdom in Disney.

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Let me see if there was any other New York news that I had on my on my list here.

SPEAKER_01 16:50

You're gonna talk about the Piazza Terror tax.

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Oh, yeah. Tax uh so much.

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Go, let's do it. It's a New York podcasting theory. Uh Piotators. I support this tax wholeheartedly. 100%. So it seems Hokel and Mom Dani have agreed to tax any home that is worth over five million dollars that is not your primary residence in New York City. Yeah. So Saudis, Saudi, anyone, royal family, uh, Russians, Ken Griffin, you know, American oligarchs, not just uh, you're all you're all about to get taxed. I'm sure they're gonna sell their fucking places right now, but uh because God forbid you pay uh any k any tax. But I'm so for it. This one's I mean, we'll take it.

SPEAKER_02 17:35

It's we're gonna bring 500 million into the city they asked.

SPEAKER_01 17:38

That's what they theorize. That's what they theorize. Estimate. It's time. Like it's time with all this stuff. I I like all the fear-mongering.

SPEAKER_02 17:45

You can't like not pay tax on your investment properties.

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You pay. Have all the shell companies, park your money, do nothing else besides park your money.

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And you mad sell it.

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Like buy. Yeah, go to someone they go to somewhere that's favorable for that. Buy in Singapore or like London might still be cool with all that shit. Like, just do it. Like, don't park your money here. You're not moving any money into the economy. Um, if like this this one Saudi Prince, I mean, granted, I saw something on Instagram. This is some infrastructure dude. This one Saudi Prince has not stayed a night in his apartment on 57th between whatever, parking, whatever, you know, billionaires row. Not one night. You're not putting any money into the into the New York City economy. You have no stakes in the game. No, I am for all for this tax. Please enforce it. Enough of like uh and enough of the fear-mongering from the real estate people, whoever it may be. These people like like this this is not this is not helping our society at all. We need to start calling some money back from these people. We've got to be able to like have clean streets, right? So, like, fuck this. I'm all for it. Good job, uh, Mom Donnie.

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Another plus for Mandami, I saw he Mom Donnie. Mom Donnie. Um, I saw he announced you'll like this. And I don't know why it hasn't why it's taken so long. By 2031, so it's still gonna take five years to really flush out. There will be no more garbage cans that don't have a closed top on them anymore.

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It's gonna take five years. Wow.

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That is that's something so like no more garbage bags in like a tin can or tin can an open, exposed cage can.

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Cage can. That's inevitably a disaster. I wonder how many garb I wonder how many garbage cans there are in New York City.

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Yeah.

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I mean, I mean it's gotta be hundreds of thousands. So that makes sense.

SPEAKER_02 19:28

Not enough. Because look at Canal Street tonight.

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Jesus Christ. My God.

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Um look at the beaches in Rockaway in the summer. Shame. Shame. I mean, it's i i like people pile up their garbage by the garbage can. There just isn't enough surface surface area, square footage, whatever. Oh cubic feet, probably.

SPEAKER_01 19:51

Gotta axe grind with the parks department. Not exactly crack troops. I'll say that. Yeah. Not exactly crack troops, and it's a parks department job.

SPEAKER_02 19:59

Yeah. Parks department can get a revamp. Mom Donnie, yo. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:04

I understand it's probably seasonal, and I bet there's not a lot of money for it, but it's it's pretty rough out there. Like you had to like mow some grass that are parked by us and it was closed for five months. Wild. Like, I don't even know if you I don't even know if you had to mow grass. Like it was just nuts. Um, yeah, parks department. I'd like to see what their budget is, but not exactly correct troops. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:26

And then also happy to report that the door peop first world problems. Door people aren't striking.

SPEAKER_01 20:32

Yes, the but yes, the in in a uh a building that has yes uh hundred we live in a building with 110 units. Yeah.

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And I mean door people are a luxury, but they the staff also like takes care of the garb. Speaking of garbage, like I don't care about getting letting myself in and out of a building. We there was a plan for that, but there was no plan for the what we were gonna do with our garbage yet. Like it was like stand by for more plans on what's gonna happen with the garbage. We have two kids of diapers, like garbage just piling up in the apartment. So happy and happy for everyone. Hopefully they got what they wanted. I didn't follow the details of what they were like threatening to strike for.

SPEAKER_01 21:13

The deadline was at midnight Tuesday, like the day um A settlement reached today. So settlement reached today, shout outs to Shout outs, I hope they yeah, I hope they got what they wanted, or enough of what they of course they didn't get everything. We love our we love the staff in our building. Staff's great. And the staff uh the building I grew up with was by and large generally great, besides a couple that we my buddies and I still talk about to this day.

SPEAKER_02 21:33

Um still holding that.

SPEAKER_01 21:35

Time to let it go. Time to let it go. We tormented them too. It was a clap back. Time to let it go. What do you mean? I was the only one that caught heat.

SPEAKER_02 21:43

Let it go. Well, this is a good segue to Disney. I'm singing Frozen. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 21:48

Even though I've never seen There were a couple of doormen slash one super that like had a rain. It wasn't even a rain of terror, just rain of incompetence. You guys would have like parties in the building. We'd smoke blunts in the staircase.

SPEAKER_02 22:00

Let like 30, 20 somethings into the building all the time. That does not go down in our building.

SPEAKER_01 22:06

Or teenage somethings. Yeah. Started happening in high school. We had a, we had a we had a hell of a run. For like five or six years, we were fucking shit up. So that yeah, understandably they hate us.

SPEAKER_02 22:16

Um you guys were also like the rent controlled, rent controlled or stabilized. Stabilized. Your parents were there since like the 70s. They were like, we can't kick these fucks out.

SPEAKER_01 22:24

Can't kick these fucks out, and their kids suck. And their kids are smoking weed and running amok. Yeah. In in the apartments, and the downstairs neighbors are like, why am I getting trampled on from above? Yeah. Rough. Yeah. We had a good run, like 99 to 05, 06.

SPEAKER_02 22:41

I was part of that run. You are. So I guess 06, 07.

SPEAKER_01 22:44

Tail end. Yeah. Shoutouts to 144 West 86th Street. Fucking A. Really. High times. Always one. Anyway, sorry, let it go. Disney.

SPEAKER_02 22:54

We didn't go on the frozen ride.

SPEAKER_01 22:56

No. We didn't do anything. We didn't do frozen. I understand the Avatar Pandora ride is uh to do Guardians of the Galaxy. We did no adult stuff.

SPEAKER_02 23:03

I think I'm just starting to feel normal. It's Friday. We got back Sunday. We were away for 10 nights. I haven't been away for 10 nights since like we went traveling in Africa.

SPEAKER_01 23:13

Summer camp. Like which you've never gone to sleep away at camp. My watch, and I don't know what HRV is, but fucking any of these like like wellness nerds do. My watch has said I've been unbalanced for a week and I feel it. Unbalanced. Unbalanced. You're never balanced. I mean, but apparently, like my I'm dying. My watch is gonna call you and be like, you're our emergency numbers. Probably be a robot you're speaking to. He's dying. Uh we think he's here. We're we are a GPS company. We think he's here. Like, you gotta go get your unbalanced to dying husband. I'm close to the red. I'm in the orange right now. It's fucked up.

SPEAKER_02 23:47

But anyway, back. We overall had a wonderful vacation. It was just 10 nights is a long time, no matter what. No less with 10. How many, not 10? One, two, three, four, four, five, four adults for half the time, five adults for the whole the other half. Yes. Um, and two insane children. Two insane children. Uh you're in Disney for five nights. Just trying to walk in like and Longboat Key for five nights. So we're at the beach for the back half.

SPEAKER_01 24:16

Is Gulf of Mexico America, depending on how you vote. Yeah. Uh it's right outside of Sarasota on the Gulf of America, Mexico.

SPEAKER_02 24:24

Uh yeah. I don't know where to start. I said to you, like, on the walk here, like, do you want to talk Disney? And I don't even know what to talk about. What I will say about Disney is that and this is important.

SPEAKER_01 24:38

The most important thing.

SPEAKER_02 24:40

Is it the most important thing? Is it the most fun thing?

SPEAKER_01 24:42

Is it the best run operation on the planet?

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As a businesswoman, like That's bold. It is just incredibly, it's just an incredible operation. Yes. Like, it is just jaw-dropping like how the places are run, how it is pristine. Like, it's pristine. It's as efficient as it can be. Like I couldn't, I couldn't nitpick any efficiencies. A hundred thousand crazy ass Americans. The fact that there's like a million people there, there are just a million people there. I don't think they could make it any better.

SPEAKER_01 25:12

You couldn't. I don't think you could.

SPEAKER_02 25:14

It's aside from like almost killing people in the Magic Kingdom on those like walking run.

SPEAKER_01 25:20

We'll get to that. Um, but there's at any given time, I have tens of thousands at minimum, at any of these places, they probably don't even have an occupancy. I mean, it's Florida. You can fucking do whatever you want, besides bring a gun in Disney, apparently. Um I mean it was strip search to go in. It was so so shockingly efficient, and there were so many, so many, so many, so many people, and it was 85 degrees, and yet things really just go just work pretty much seamlessly. Like the the the the inefficiency are the human beings with their double shoulders, ourselves, um, trying to weave in and out of traffic. Um, but I mean, on an operations level, that is an A plus plus. I don't know how Amazon behind the curtain works, and I'm sure it's A plus plus too, but Amazon isn't dealing with all like people that are like once in a lifetime going to Disney, five, you know, three times in a lifetime going to Disney.

SPEAKER_02 26:09

Like all the staff are so professional, they're so well trained, obviously, to make to make everything run that way. From all over the all over the world. Like really trying to make magic there.

SPEAKER_01 26:19

Yes. I am gonna say becoming a Disney convert. We all know my childhood was like, you know, die hard in Terminator 2. But now I'm trying to regain it at 41.

SPEAKER_02 26:29

Yeah, I will definitely go back with our kids.

SPEAKER_01 26:31

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 26:32

Several times before they're too old. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 26:35

Um Operations insane. Um you It's a little bit fun. It is a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_02 26:40

Even if you just come with that perspective, I mean it's fucking chaos and the stimulation is wild. And like you just gotta like pace yourself and like only go to the park for a couple hours a day and like not be like first of all, we didn't know what to expect to not be the thirstiest person there. Babies.

SPEAKER_01 26:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:56

Like go on a couple of things, like watch a parade, like have a drink. Also, you can drink everywhere there now. Yo, that is wild. I think not just like beer. There was a lot like when we were kids, the only place you could get alcohol. The only place you could get alcohol there was an Epcot, and that was like the thing to drink around the world. Yo, they are throwing alcohol around like it's water.

SPEAKER_01 27:22

Because let's call it like it is. The lows are low. Lows are low. And parents We aren't getting divorced, I don't think. I was asked by a parent in our class. I'm a boss. You didn't get divorced, right? I'm like, it's still pending, but like, no, we survived the week. I mean, it is it and our kids are young. Our kids are effectively too young. Like three and a half and 15 months, like, they'll see the pictures, we'll go again, we'll jog their memory.

SPEAKER_02 27:49

But like, it is pretty cute to watch them see the character. Incredible. Our son was like having a dance, dance party with the character.

SPEAKER_01 27:56

Goofy was doing it. Goofy was my boy. We dapped me up. I dapped him up. It was great. Uh, I was a big guy in there, too. Oh um, uh, what was I say? Um, yeah, I out of nowhere. I didn't know, didn't notice this last time. Last time we went, we got an ultra luxury experience. Let's call it like it is. Your mom really treated us, and we didn't have to wait in lines, and we had fucking guides. We didn't have any kids. We didn't have any kids, and it was wild. I couldn't even take in how crazy everything was because we were just ushered around and it was just like we were behind, we were it was like we were we could like walk through walls, literally. It was like we could walk through walls, and I took nothing in, um, other than how crazy the other kids were in our family, and now our kids are crazy, so I um but uh this time um I noticed this time I took a lot more in and took a lot, look, did a lot of people watching, which I'll get to. But I just looked around, I'm like, there's so much alcohol here. I'm like, yeah, there's like a whole like you want Grey Goose, you want Jack Daniels. Like, they're not kidding around. And like if you want to drink at 10 a.m., feel free. And like people, I mean Epcot seems to be the most adult. Epcot is like where people really do drink, but like Magic Kingdom, uh, alcohol everywhere, Epcot Alcohol Everywhere, Hollywood Studios, definitely alcohol everywhere, and Animal Kingdom, beer everywhere. Um, so good on Disney. They know they gotta take the edge off because people are people are on edge.

SPEAKER_02 29:17

My sister was like, at some point, I mean, we were sort of like waiting till later in the day to like have a drink.

SPEAKER_01 29:23

It had to crack like 12 30, and we were we saw I saw plenty of AMD.

SPEAKER_02 29:28

The Star Wars thing at Hollywood Studios to get my son, like, my sister wanted to get him like green milk. What are they? I'm not a Star Wars person, like blue. Tatooine something. And then she winds up ordering one with rum and one with tequila. I was like, oh, I don't want this right now. It wasn't great. It's 200 degrees. Yes. I've been drinking too much as it is.

SPEAKER_01 29:48

Yes. That was another thing. We were all like, oh my god, let's get we're going into the sun. It was 85 and like it it's hot.

SPEAKER_02 29:55

It was extra hot there, though. They were like having a heat wave.

SPEAKER_01 29:58

Yes. Also, another thing. It says 55 minute wait time, and you're on the ride in 53 minutes. It is, I mean, what a well-oiled machine.

SPEAKER_02 30:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:07

But um the I will say, I think I saw every iteration of human being there of American person.

SPEAKER_02 30:14

What does that mean?

SPEAKER_01 30:15

Like every demographic, every demo and every whatever you consider yourself. It was wild. It was literally like, and it was, I gotta say, pretty much hats off to America and and the international tourists that came there. Like, as crazy as it was, I didn't see like any outward, like total meltdowns. Like people were there between people, between people, even amongst families, like people, like obviously us included, I'm sure, like parents, like, holy shit, I would do anything for to like tranquilize my kids right now, give them ketamine. Um, but uh it really like I looked on at the people of America, and it is it is America in one place at one time in a jumble. Um, by and large. I mean, it's skews on the younger side because obviously it's more young kids than not, but like plenty of teenagers. And you know what? I was I was pretty impressed.

SPEAKER_02 31:01

Yeah, everyone was just out trying to have time with their family.

SPEAKER_01 31:05

That is the most that, and I was thinking about I'm like, this is this is like uh the one of the best parts of Americana there is.

SPEAKER_02 31:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:12

And how hats off the wall to do it. See the pros. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 31:15

The people who knew what they were doing. There was like, we wait, we like I got some lightning lane, whatever. I stratdmings and like didn't care about others, but there was one moment where we waited in Epcot for Ratatouille, the Ratatouille ride, which we remembered loving so which we did love.

SPEAKER_01 31:31

A little tough if you're hungover.

SPEAKER_02 31:33

It was fine, but like the pros there, it it's a 55-minute wait. Yeah, they had dri like a cocktail because it's Epcot. There's like you pick your cocktail of the Go to France, get champagne, go to Mexico, get tequila. People bring a drink online and they have a drink, like they sit there having a drink on the hour-long wait.

SPEAKER_01 31:52

Yes, big fan of Epcot. I know all this stuff is like a little chintzy, or not chintzy, a little flowers at Epcot and crut the landscape.

SPEAKER_02 32:00

Landscaping. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 32:01

Hats off to Disney. Yeah. It's it's it's a great American brand. I get it. It's hokey, all that stuff. But hats off. We had a by and large a good time, I must say. Um and we went to the beach. Then we went to Longboat Key on the Gulf of Mexico, America. And we saw Chris, we saw subsequently fired former Department of Homeland Secur Security DHS secretary and former governor of South Dakota, Christy Gnome, at our hotel. Little security detail, two people talking to a woman in a dupe blue devil's hat, probably about what to do next in life, because her husband's now been filmed with massive tits. That's his that's his like kink. Um, but yeah, she was there in the wild. I would think if I was Christy Gnome, my husband just got caught doing this, it was known that you were sleeping with your number two on Air Force Five or whatever plane you were on, and you just got fired from the Department, Department of Homeland Security, and you were in charge of ICE. Maybe I wouldn't be in the public for a couple months. Uh, you know, south. She's not really in the public. She was she was. She's tall. She's pretty striking. I think Christy Gnome's an attractive woman, even if she's like, you know, got a lot of uh things done. And like she was dressed, she was dressed like Melania, like at the inauguration. She was in dark blue with like a fucking big hat. So we saw her there, but anyway, back to Florida. Christy Gnome, what are you doing? Take a breath. I know, but like what are you doing in public right now? I don't know, but you just went really fast. I know, I did. I did. You're good. I'm trying to give Christy Numb career advice. Chill for six months. You're fine. You're fired up about Disney. I took 200 million from the US government to produce an ad for 60 seconds. Yeah, I was I am fired up about Disney. Some there were some triggers.

SPEAKER_02 33:37

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 33:37

Stuff.

SPEAKER_02 33:38

You want to let it add anything else out?

SPEAKER_01 33:40

No, I'm good. I feel I'm unbalanced. I told you.

SPEAKER_02 33:44

You are unbalanced.

SPEAKER_01 33:47

Silence my ph silence my watch. It might be who knows.

SPEAKER_02 33:50

Um don't croak.

SPEAKER_01 33:52

No.

SPEAKER_02 33:52

Uh I'll kill you if you die. Yeah. Now you can't die. No, I'm okay.

SPEAKER_01 33:58

I think.

SPEAKER_02 33:59

Like, what the hell will I do?

SPEAKER_01 34:00

I'm gonna get one of these like DEXA scans, and then it'll tell me how I'm gonna what I'm gonna do.

SPEAKER_02 34:04

What will I do with the kids? Just I'll just go insane.

SPEAKER_01 34:07

No. Um I'll give them to somebody. Lombow Key, beautiful beach. And I also I gotta say, I know Florida gets a bad rap from New Yorkers, except for the people that's Florida. Except for the people that snowbird, and they're like, by the way, New York is miserable for six months a year, if not all 12. Um you can escape New York and like go to Florida and like things are pretty affordable. Um and it's it's Sarasota, Lombouke, Disney, um two thumbs up, I will say that two and a half hour drive between Orlando and Tampa, holy shit, that was depressing. Like every single structure in that Orlando we drove from Orlando to Sarasota. To Sarasota. Did I say Tampa? Yeah. Sorry, sorry, Florida. Um every single structure looked exactly the same.

SPEAKER_02 34:56

Yeah, but that's like what America looks like outside of New York for most part. Like outside. Outside of matrices. Outside of matrix.

SPEAKER_01 35:02

Yeah, sure. I mean, no. There are towns that have some real like bones to it and like some.

SPEAKER_02 35:06

Yeah, they're moving far between. Like most of the development is pretty modern.

SPEAKER_01 35:10

Especially in Florida. Yeah. Like that two and a half hour drive. Not good, guys. Not good. Let's do better. Um thought it was fine. No, it wasn't like it was scary. It was just like there's one material you guys build with.

SPEAKER_00 35:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:22

Sorry. Snobbish. It is efficient and cheap. Um yeah, that was it. Like some New York hate. Yeah. God, there's gonna be someone in the comment section that thinks this up and like a shot. Fair. I made a comment, you can return fire. Um what else do you have?

SPEAKER_02 35:40

Anything else you want to get off your chest right now. I know. Well, Disney you're on a wavelength that I'm not matching right now.

SPEAKER_01 35:46

No, I mean Disney was Disney was tough. It's tough. Three rides a day. That's all we can do.

SPEAKER_02 35:58

Three rides a day.

SPEAKER_01 36:00

No, we got it anymore. Well we talk about that. Or we just ran at it. Twenty-two or forty-two schools. And you're seeing all the schools have at least a day off. We've ranted about days before. That is wild. We had a 10-day spring break.

SPEAKER_02 36:31

I've kind of been thinking a bit a bit about business ghosting. Which has always happened in my travels. I think it's an interesting move.

SPEAKER_01 36:42

I s do not respond to some people now that I used to work with. Oh, that's fucked. With some screens. I know.

SPEAKER_02 36:49

Just like have an AI response to it.

SPEAKER_01 36:51

I know. I should. I should. I there are people that have like that are.

SPEAKER_02 36:55

I think it's such poor form.

SPEAKER_01 36:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:57

There are like two things that really irk me in business.

SPEAKER_01 37:01

This is something I would never do.

SPEAKER_02 37:02

Number one is ghosting.

SPEAKER_01 37:04

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 37:04

And number two is flakiness.

SPEAKER_01 37:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:09

I've had I had a call scheduled with a potential investor, a big time guy for my new pr project.

SPEAKER_01 37:16

I should have found myself here. I haven't spoken to these people in over two and a half years.

SPEAKER_02 37:19

He he or his assistant pushed the call like two times, three times. His assistant, I guess, or whomever was scheduling the call.

SPEAKER_01 37:29

So we think.

SPEAKER_02 37:30

Which is another thing I find curious. He this guy, I don't know. Two points on like the assistant being copied in to schedule something. So whatever whomever was copied in originally after this introduction was made, pushed the call back like two or three times. So he might have not have known that. And this is like something I was preparing for. Like it's pretty big call for me, I think, or pretty pr big potential. Third time, I'm like there five minutes in, like, have reserved my conference room. Like, I'm in there, I'm in the zone, I'm ready. Like, I just get it like he had he had sent, or like whomever schedule it had sent the invitation. I get like uh an automatic response that the the the uh invite was canceled and that you know terrible so-and-so is like running late and we'll have to reschedule this meeting. So I respond to the like model thing, being like the agent, whatever. We've we've graduated from both the agents. Uh like, okay, cool, like no problem. Let me know when you'd like to reschedule. And I'm not gonna follow up on that again. Like, no, of course not. Kind of like, if you want to talk to me now, like you're gonna figure out how to get to me. Correct. Um, that was one thing, which is real that in terms of flakiness. I don't like that shit. Like, yes, don't don't like prompt whomever's making your schedule to get me on it and then ghost or cancel last minute, flake last minute.

SPEAKER_01 39:02

Pretty bad.

SPEAKER_02 39:02

Then no apology.

SPEAKER_01 39:05

No, okay, that was a last communication or whatever that was didn't respond. Your last communication was with Claude or Chat GPT, got it.

SPEAKER_02 39:12

Or maybe him, who knows? I'll never know.

SPEAKER_01 39:14

I'm gonna say no.

SPEAKER_02 39:15

Um, so that's flakiness shit. And I my one of my bosses at the hedge fund used to do that to people, and I think it's like some sort of sick fucking power shit.

SPEAKER_00 39:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 39:25

Like he'd cancel on things like at the 11th hour and send me to them, which wound up being to my benefit, but like then I'd the boss, the devil? Yeah. Then I would like wound up to be my benefit because I got all this great experience, but like also then had to like sort of represent why he wasn't there. Um Right.

SPEAKER_01 39:46

And making excuses for another thing.

SPEAKER_02 39:47

Yeah, just like or like I had planned my days around. I fucking hate flakiness. I hate it in professional life. I hate it in personal life. Like to me, like, word is bond. Like just don't commit to something if you fucking can't commit to something.

SPEAKER_01 40:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:03

Have the balls to not commit to it in the first place.

SPEAKER_01 40:06

Yeah. Say no.

SPEAKER_02 40:07

Just say no.

SPEAKER_01 40:08

Just say no.

SPEAKER_02 40:09

Or go or sort of ghost from the beginning. Ghost from the beginning. I don't know. Yeah, one ghost, one ghost. I don't fully mind a ghost from the beginning. One ghost. Like three ghosts is like a really stimulating conversation with someone recently, and he was like, okay, great. Like, let's keep the ball rolling. Send me this, send me that, send me the other thing. So naturally, like, I'm like, this was really good. Like we were, we were flowing, we were vibing. Good vibes. Everything was great. So and so is the it's like dating in a way, I guess. I don't know. I've never dated. Never dated either, but I I have heard about dating. And then I like follow up with all the things that we like were excited about together. No, because on a lot of calls, like you don't really like this was an exceptional call. You thought he was the one. You thought he was the one. I thought he could have been. I've been one of the greats. I really thought I was like, we have a connection. We have a connection. There's a connection. Yeah. I took me this long to like kind of draw the comparison to dating.

SPEAKER_01 41:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:10

Um, but anyway, so I sent him the thing, and I was like, oh, whatever, maybe.

SPEAKER_01 41:14

Wait, this is the three ghoster? I'm trying to follow the bouncing ball. This is somebody else. Okay, got it.

SPEAKER_02 41:18

The the three ghoster was that's a flake. I'm calling that a flake.

SPEAKER_01 41:22

Flake.

SPEAKER_02 41:22

Not a ghost flake, and then last minute canceling, like, fuck you. Slash get out of here. AI agent chatbot. You're dead to me. You're dead to me. Like, I don't want to take your phone call. You better like grovel to me to take your phone call. Or just like wire me money. Uh something. No, maybe, maybe that would be great. I don't know. It would be no, it would be dirty money. Oh, oh, okay. Okay. Um yeah, three ghosts, you're out. This guy. Oh, this is the one that hurt. And they're all men, obviously, because men have all the money and control the world, but like. This is the one that hurt. I just don't know. It hurt. I don't know. Well, wrong. What could possibly have gone wrong? What Zoom room was I in that he wasn't? Yes. I was gonna meet his parents. He was coming to New York. No, he was coming to New York.

SPEAKER_01 42:14

He was coming to New York. He was in San Francisco. He's gonna spend his life and move here.

SPEAKER_02 42:18

He was coming to New York to meet me in real life. Of course.

SPEAKER_01 42:21

You guys can get an apartment together. You can go apartment hunting. I didn't realize how gap I guess this is so weird. Dog dog breeds together. I mean, it was the whole thing.

SPEAKER_02 42:30

Um, yeah. And I sent him all the things, like flight, flight info, for lack of a better.

SPEAKER_01 42:36

Flight info. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:39

All the things we discussed. And then I was like, oh, okay. Like a couple days later, I don't hear anything. I'm like, oh, like maybe you just didn't see the text, not text. Now I'm really getting it into dating, but like maybe you just didn't see the email. So I like follow up, like, hey, also, you like said you wouldn't do this for me, like help me with this. Okay, no. Then I let it go like 10, 13, 15 days. Oof. And I'm like, fine, I'm just gonna do one more. Cause it was such a good conversation.

SPEAKER_00 43:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 43:11

Third, third thing. The thing is, I'm about to become real legit in this industry that all these people really legit, I know. And now and then it's gonna be really uncomfortable for them.

SPEAKER_01 43:23

Fucking burn book.

SPEAKER_02 43:25

Like, shit's about to go down for me, and then it's just it's not a burn book. It's just gonna be weird. Like, I'm not taking your call.

SPEAKER_01 43:34

To say, I am your retribution. You're about to go on the revenge tour. It's gonna be good. It's gonna be really good.

SPEAKER_02 43:40

It's not even revenge. It's just like I felt this way since day one. I think it's just one of my like big things as an individual, a human being, like respect. Like, I I think it's just fundamentally respect. I remember like when I first started Oni's and I like didn't know anybody in the industry. And I was like, I gotta sell this. So I was like knocking on doors at bars, at restaurants, like trying to meet managers, trying to meet like the bartenders. And I would get like door shut in my face a lot. Or just like really bad attitudes from buyers.

SPEAKER_00 44:20

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 44:20

Like or managers. Oh, obviously, like like Oni's wound up to be a success and like a lot of people got behind it. But I just was, I remember at the time until it got to that point, until like we got to like really be, you know, recognized. I can I always had to think like, yo, first of all, it's not that serious. We're selling fucking booze. Like, we're not curing cancer here. Number two, it's always the like you don't know where paths are gonna go in life.

SPEAKER_01 44:53

Yes, why burn a branch preemptive?

SPEAKER_02 44:55

I mean, I'm talking about in relation to business now, and like someone's trying to sell you something, I get it. Like, just politely say no.

SPEAKER_00 45:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 45:04

Or you could ghost, don't ever meet me. Don't ever meet me, like, fine. You never you want to be elusive, like Wizard of Oz in the like that happened in us. Happened, happens all the time. Yes. With soda. Like the buyers at big retailers, like you cannot touch them. They're like in some hidden castle far away and so elusive. Um, that's one thing. Just don't be rude, don't flake. And like if you're gonna like engage in a conversation, like tie the close the loop.

SPEAKER_01 45:34

Yes. Give someone the give someone the 15 minutes. Yeah. And then be like, we're not really into it.

SPEAKER_02 45:39

Like, I mean, I guess it's one thing. And again, I have no dating experience because we just like got together at 22 and like that was that.

SPEAKER_01 45:47

But like and I flake and I and I flaked on one of our date nights.

SPEAKER_02 45:52

It's poor form, and I would imagine it's poor form, obviously, in dating. And like but like in business, you don't know what's gonna come back around. Like you don't know where like things are gonna lead or not lead, and like yes.

SPEAKER_01 46:06

Do you have the time or not?

unknown 46:07

Right?

SPEAKER_02 46:08

Like I've got plenty of like, oh, this isn't the right opportunity for us at this time for this, that, and the other reason. Or like that's a great no. Yeah, quick no. Or just which is the professional thing to do. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:19

Not in the market.

SPEAKER_02 46:21

Or just like, yeah, anyway. I didn't realize how you're jilted.

SPEAKER_01 46:27

Understandable.

SPEAKER_02 46:29

I didn't realize how analogous it was to dating until I started talking about it. I thought I didn't because I don't know what dating is. Apparently something terrible with ghosts and flakes. Yeah. Flaking, I've always hated them. Yeah. Oh my god. I hate it in yeah, I hate it.

SPEAKER_00 46:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 46:47

I hate my friends who do it. I don't hate my friends, but I do hate them in the moment when they flake. Yeah, it's tough. It's like, yo, my time is valuable. Your your everyone's time is valuable.

SPEAKER_01 47:00

Right.

SPEAKER_02 47:00

Like we only have so much of it.

SPEAKER_01 47:02

Yes. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 47:03

Don't make a plan with me and can't like cancel for no reason. Yes. We all know shit comes up, like there is flexibility. Yeah. It's more the last minute. Like, if you want to cancel days in advance. Right. It's fine. Fine. Totally fine. Yeah. That guy sent me the like can't cancel calendar to five, five, five or ten minutes before the call.

SPEAKER_01 47:24

That's leaving you, that's leaving you at a restaurant stack.

SPEAKER_02 47:25

First of all, you've held I've held my calendar for this. I had like everything prepared.

SPEAKER_01 47:29

That's leaving you at a restaurant stack. Or at the bar. Yeah. Can't wait to meet him one day. I know. Soon. Great. Fucking awesome. And then fucking chew them out and chew them out in public. I can't wait to redefine. Make it real cinematic.

SPEAKER_02 47:45

Redefine what faces of certain industries look like.

SPEAKER_01 47:50

Yeah. Yeah. Come crashing in.

SPEAKER_02 47:54

As I take a swing from my flat.

SPEAKER_01 47:56

Yeah. Well, Oni's. You fucked up guy. Could have been there at the ground level 2.0.

SPEAKER_02 48:03

Something much bigger than just Oni's.

SPEAKER_01 48:05

Yes, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 48:06

Anyway. Had to air that out in our You good? I'm balanced. You're at a front. I'm grounded.

SPEAKER_01 48:14

I didn't feel like you were grounded there. You were on a different tony. My watch is telling me I'm at the precipice of death. So I'm just trying to get it all out.

SPEAKER_02 48:21

What is how do you balance? Does it tell you how to get balanced?

SPEAKER_01 48:24

Probably chill the fuck out with like running.

SPEAKER_02 48:26

But you don't.

SPEAKER_01 48:28

No. I had to talk to Chat GPT today. It's telling me to chill.

SPEAKER_02 48:32

I thought we decided we're not talking to ChatGPT.

SPEAKER_01 48:35

I know. It wastes a lot of water, fresh water per search. We yeah, I mean this is the whole thing.

SPEAKER_02 48:41

And we just don't want it to know too much.

SPEAKER_01 48:43

Yes. If it can know that I run, that's fine. Who cares? Um and that I um no, don't get me into the Claude Mythos thing. They just clawed uh uh anthropic just came out with a new AI that like discovered some security vulnerability that has been like not discovered in 27 years. Dude, we're so done. We're so cooked. This is it. I just hope the AI doesn't kill us, kill us quickly.

SPEAKER_02 49:07

I did use chat DPT today, I must. Of course. I use it, yo, it writes very well. And it's it's fun. It writes better than I write. Of course it does. And it's fun. Oh, I just like put in bullet points and then it produces this beautiful paragraph for me.

SPEAKER_01 49:19

It's so bad on both on on on on either way it goes.

SPEAKER_02 49:22

And it knows about I don't I haven't even used it that much, and it knows too much about it.

SPEAKER_01 49:25

It talks, it talks to me. It like, I'm like, you gotta stop. You're like, you're like manipulating me. Um it's it's screwed, it's screwed in either eventuality. It's screwed if it becomes, you don't know what Skynet means, but it be but basically it's screwed if it becomes the all-seeing matrix robot that like enslaves us and or kills us, right? Okay, that's the apocalypse. That's horrible. But even if it's not that and it's just a great search engine and doesn't get much better than that, American companies are just gonna use this as cloud cover and already are to start firing people. Oh, we're looking for especially publicly traded companies. We're looking for efficiencies. So they're just gonna get rid of like whole swaths of their employees, especially, you know, a certain rung of employee, um, and make it a reason not to hire. We've discovered, we've discovered efficiencies. And that's also terrible. Right now, and like it's it's also being create, you know, being used as an excuse to like not hire any software developers, excuse me. And it could be a very valid excuse, don't get me wrong. Not hire any software engineers as soon as it's gonna be junior analysts, you know, at investment banks and hedge funds, soon it's gonna be paralegal time.

SPEAKER_02 50:28

I didn't even want to like go down all that the job thing. I was just more talking about like oh, and then the environmental. There's been this thread on like one of the mommy blogs that I'm on about like what you use AI to take your mental load, to take your, you know, to reduce your mental load. And so many people are putting so much information about their kids and their families.

SPEAKER_01 50:48

Right, it's bad enough that you're already taking pictures of your kids and putting them on Instagram, which we do too, but like probably way too much. No, I've stopped. And like I do have some grip. And then you're gonna start Of course, ape open AI, like of course open AI and Anthropic and Google are gonna use this information, not necessarily against you, but to make more money and to advertise towards you. Um, and to prey on vulnerabilities and needs, all that stuff. Of course they are. So the more you put in this, yes, the more they're gonna like your kid is now neither. You like you're to type in my seven-year-old is has ADHD, or so I think. Like, I don't want to go to a psychiatrist right now, but like what do you think? And then they're gonna like spell all the stuff. And uh you are unbalanced. No, it's just like you're you're speaking so fast right now. All right, maybe don't listen to this episode at 1.3x. Listen to it at one. Um just slow Harry's voice. Oh, yeah, seriously. I should get chopped and screwed.

SPEAKER_02 51:38

Um I was just asking, I mean, I know I went onto the chat.

SPEAKER_01 51:41

It's an it okay.

SPEAKER_02 51:43

I just want you to get balanced. Here's what can we do to get you balance?

SPEAKER_01 51:46

My dictator for the country. It's not even a New York City-based thing.

SPEAKER_02 51:48

I just before we do that, because then we'll wrap up. I'll have like seven drinks tonight and I'll be back to that's gonna balance you?

SPEAKER_01 51:54

Maybe.

SPEAKER_02 51:57

That's a flip of the coin there.

SPEAKER_01 51:58

It is. I know. Um no, I will say this about the environmental contention. I think you need some like shock therapy, maybe or massage. Not like a lobotomy.

SPEAKER_02 52:07

Maybe like acupuncture?

SPEAKER_01 52:08

No, I think that's a bit of a grift. I'm not sure. Um, let me just say what I would do to the AI companies. You maybe you just need to get this off your chest and you'll be balanced. You need to like develop your own nuclear power. Whatever's gonna fire, fire up your shit, you need to like you need to do this yourself. And then like you can spin it off and whatever you need to do. But you need to not draw and so like there's so much demand on the grid that's already whatever the grid. You need to basically be self-sufficient energy-wise within five to ten years, if not sooner. And the fresh water you use, it's like you know what you were trying to say about the HRP, like um uh on the blog. It uses like a liter per query, it loses it uses like a gallon of fresh water to like cool its like the data centers or whatever. Like, that's insane. Insane. Completely unbalanced. Open AI and me. Unbalanced. I know nice outside, 78 degrees.

SPEAKER_02 53:03

I should be more than should we do some breath work?

SPEAKER_01 53:08

No. What is it? Inhale for four, hold for seven, exhale for eight.

SPEAKER_02 53:14

That's a box breath.

SPEAKER_01 53:15

Does it work?

SPEAKER_02 53:15

Have you ever done that?

SPEAKER_01 53:16

Yeah, plenty of times. I'm not sure why.

SPEAKER_02 53:18

You've done it?

SPEAKER_01 53:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 53:19

When? Alone in the dark at night?

SPEAKER_01 53:21

No, when both of our kids are.

SPEAKER_02 53:24

I've never seen it work for you. Heads are spinning. It does work.

SPEAKER_01 53:28

Okay. How many times do you have to do it?

SPEAKER_02 53:30

Do it a few times. It brings you.

SPEAKER_01 53:32

Only do it like three times.

SPEAKER_02 53:34

Do you do it? Do you count slow or do you count like one, two, three, four, five? You gotta count like one, two. Are we a wellness podcaster? Three. Maybe. I you need to get balanced. I'm trying to like part of this podcast is to try and like, you know.

SPEAKER_01 53:49

No, the main part of this podcast is to air grievances.

SPEAKER_02 53:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 53:54

At the public.

SPEAKER_02 53:55

Okay, so maybe it'll be balanced after it.

SPEAKER_01 53:57

It'd be great.

SPEAKER_02 53:58

Would you like to end with a dictator? Maybe that will bring will your watch start beeping like balanced, balanced, balanced.

SPEAKER_01 54:04

No, that was it. But this is uh this is this is on a national level. You need you need to be able to power yourselves and figure out, I don't know, desalination, someone that knows anything about like hydro engineering. You need to figure out how to not make everyone's uh uh everyone's life worse by straining the grid and then energy costs cost more and using a finite resource like fresh water. So uh I don't know, whimsically it's not the word, but uh so avorously. So that's my dictator. Fuel yourselves. You guys are worth fucking four trillion apiece anyway, so make it work.

unknown 54:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 54:45

It's usually a New York thing, and then we like you know find some sort of punishment.

SPEAKER_01 54:51

Here's the thing. If okay, I got a dictator. Yo, if we're gonna have this unspoken rule of handbag mafia can exist on Canal Street, yo. And the cops aren't gonna sweep you guys up all the time, and I don't know how frequently they do, or or even higher level than the cops, maybe something federal. Uh this can't be like a trash heap on every block. You're like your what merch, one thing, your fake weed slash K2, one thing, but it was a trash dump two buildings.

SPEAKER_02 55:21

Yeah, I'm not gonna blame them. It's not clear if it's them or it's just canal streets.

SPEAKER_01 55:25

Whatever it may be. It might be it might be the landlords of these buildings, whatever it is.

SPEAKER_02 55:29

Garbage is your hill to die on, literally. Oh my god. What I saw on Canal Street was even more egregious today. Although I don't like garbage, and I know we're probably at an hour, but yeah. I don't know. Have we ever made this a dictator?

SPEAKER_01 55:43

What's that?

SPEAKER_02 55:44

Yo, the fucking Ubers or taxis not stopping, like just stopping in a lane, in a driving lane. I've got it's Canal Street at rush hour on a Friday night. It's already insane.

SPEAKER_01 55:56

Savage both ways, Jersey.

SPEAKER_02 55:58

This Uber just stops in like a driving lane, like blocking traffic to let somebody in.

SPEAKER_01 56:03

It's insane.

SPEAKER_02 56:04

Like you should be dragged out of the car and like arrested and lose any right to.

SPEAKER_01 56:09

We've touched upon this. It is such a quality of life thing. Pull into a fire hydrant, but you you're a professional driver. You're a professional fire driver. If there is space, you go there and the person can fucking look 50 feet either way and find your car. The fact that you would canal at 6 p.m., 6 30 p.m. was on a Friday. She took a selfie.

SPEAKER_02 56:27

She was getting into the it was a minivan Uber and she was she stopped. It was stopped in a driving lane, like cars backed up. Broadway, Broadway and she didn't even just get in. She stopped, like as she's getting into the fake bag, took took multiple selfies and then like took her sweet ass time climbing it to River. Also punishable offense.

SPEAKER_01 56:46

Yo, let's just get vigilante. Like, there should be vigilante justice. Like, yeah, you should tarden feathered some old school shit. Yeah. Definitely lose your stupid fucking bag that you just your fake bag. Your bag gets given to someone else. Uber driver just gets stomped out. I don't know. Or someone commandeers his car into a fire hydrant that you're gonna be at for 45 seconds. Yes. It's such a quality of life thing, the double parking. There you go. Dictator. So we're talking vigilante justice. I like it. We're back on track here. I'm balanced.

SPEAKER_02 57:15

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 57:16

You're balanced.

SPEAKER_02 57:17

You finished that flask. You're probably balanced.

SPEAKER_01 57:19

Right. All right. Brought dictator back in a glorious fashion. Uh yeah, tonight.

SPEAKER_02 57:26

Next time.

SPEAKER_01 57:27

Happy Friday. All right, thank you, Chris.