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Ep 24 Looney Tunes Mode

Billie Season 2 Episode 24

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In this episode, Billie finally opens up about her empathy for inanimate objects, Günter sends AI straight into Looney Tunes mode, and Emma investigates a raccoon that fell off the wagon and went completely rogue.

⚠️ Content warning: contains strong language, includes misplaced empathy, unstable technology, and a raccoon making consistently poor choices. Listener discretion advised.

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SPEAKER_00

This podcast contains explicit language, inappropriate jokes, and deeply questionable choices.

SPEAKER_01

One, two, stand up, three, four. Emma, move closer to it. Sound up one two. One, two.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I think we got recording.

SPEAKER_01

We need to include that. One, two, three, four. What's that? One, two, three, four, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve. Well, that's um, so what's the sound of ten? Oh, that's a military. That's a stupid military thing, isn't it? Sound of one, two, three. Sound off, two, three. Yeah, one, two, three, seven, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve. It is set to be straight. Yeah. Yeah. And then what about one of these kids is doing the wrong thing? One of these things is not like the other. One of these things is not the same.

SPEAKER_03

You're ostracized.

SPEAKER_01

You're ostracized. One of these things is not like the other. That's you, Billy. That's me. Thanks.

SPEAKER_03

And with that, welcome again to Dream Cheeses. I'm here with the beautiful, the Bebopin, and Bordoshas. And yes, like the red one. Um Billy. Hello! And the Immaculate one, the Um Emancipator and Ambassador of Kindness, Emma.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, thank you. The ambassador of kindness, I like that. But out of curiosity, why were you asking how to spell Bordeaux? Yeah, double checking Bordeaux when it was going to be verbally read.

SPEAKER_03

Billy's well, yes. Okay.

SPEAKER_01

But anyway, Bordocious. Baudacious. Bordeaux. Emma, what would we what would we then have as one for Gunto if it had G's in it? Ooh, gregarious. Do you know what that came to my forget? Yes. Gargantuan brain. Gargantuan brain? I'm just thinking of how I can put ginormous in there.

SPEAKER_03

I was gonna say a little top heavy clunk. So my first excuse to make a clunk sound a lot.

SPEAKER_01

Elephant titus. And separatus. How are we all gang?

unknown

Good.

SPEAKER_01

Good? Very good. Very good. Yeah. Happy to be back. Happy to be back. Filming. Yes. Um slash podcasting. Yes. Um one of these days we will film it. Why did it on um on YouTube, but uh I think we've all we all agreed that was a bad idea. Bad. Apart from the fact that we have to clean the house.

SPEAKER_03

Um there are certain ideas that are just bad before you even have to do them, right? Yes. Like you can have the idea, but sometimes you just go, yeah, yeah, no.

SPEAKER_01

And you see, like I listen to lots of podcasts, and um I then see the fact that they've you know got shows and stuff like in like live shows and things, because they uh have uh YouTube channels and stuff that people watch, so they clearly are watched YouTube, uh watched a podcast more than listen to a podcast. But I thought the whole thing that you put podcasts is you're meant to just listen to, but yeah, but the new thing is of course. Well, you know who would come. Lauren Margie. Margie. Yeah, Kate. Kate would definitely come. Kintara. Kintara would come. There's our front row. There's our front row. And maybe the family from New Zealand. Yes, and maybe our one listener from Russia and Thailand. Yes, yeah. Welcome. Welcome, they would come. Cheers to you because you were on our little uh Spotify um yearly download that we have one regular listener from Thailand, so shout out to you. We don't know who you are. If you want to reach out to us, please do. And one from Russia. Yes, yes, please also reach out. Excuse my clinking. It's it's a summery day today, so I have ice in my drink.

SPEAKER_00

If you ain't drinking, we if you ain't clinking, you ain't drinking.

SPEAKER_01

That was Em's lovely saying a few weeks ago. Uh, we also just introducing our cheese board. We have some uh leftover uh 16-year-old party cheese. And what is that?

SPEAKER_04

Just to be clear, that's actual cheese. It's not cheap. It's cheese from a 16-year-old party.

SPEAKER_01

Uh that we didn't go to, but uh to clarify. I thought I was catering for a rugby team and bought a literal wheel of breed. Literal. Uh big dinner plate size. Yeah, unsurprisingly big. I saw it, it was big. Yeah, the 11, 16-year-olds in attendance did not machine. They nibbled. They did, to say the most. Um, so yes, we have some So can I just interrupt it? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

So cheese or wheels first in the invention on timeline. Oh, so did someone just combine them together and at the same moment that they came out with the brie and wheel?

SPEAKER_01

Was it the brie or the wheel?

SPEAKER_03

Chicken egg stuff?

SPEAKER_01

No, I would say that the wheel was first. Because wouldn't they don't they need the wheel to mix the cheese? Like, don't you no, I don't know. A wheel to mix the cheese. You know, like a cog kind of thing to mix it. No. I don't know. I don't I've never made cheese. What yeah, what is what are you envisaging as the cheese making process where you've got this cog. We probably should know a little bit more about cheese making. Oh, I can't move the you know, thing that exists the cheese. I'm doing very weird hand actions here, but and then looking at me going, ha ha ha, you're stupid. Um, thank you.

SPEAKER_03

No, no, but that's how you do like grain and stuff. So that makes sense. Yeah, I agree. I get where you're coming from.

SPEAKER_01

I I think the wheel before the cheese. What do you think? Uh I agree. And I think that the cheese was shaped into wheels to enable it to be rolled. Rolled, yeah. Exactly. Really?

SPEAKER_03

So what shape would it have come in before it became wheels or brie?

SPEAKER_01

Well, it's just a bit of a blump. Because the wheels were first. It's a blump. A blump of cheese.

SPEAKER_03

It's just a blump of a brie.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, and then obviously, well, I've done a cheese making course where I made, thanks to Kate, long time listener, um, a ricotta, and then I did make a cheese with a rind, and it involves brine and all sorts. Yeah. And I'm trying to think whether that was a circular template or how we did that, and I can't remember.

SPEAKER_00

I can't imagine Wheelers a Square. At Wheelers Square.

SPEAKER_01

Cheese card, okay. I I did warn these two before we started that I have end-of-term brain, and I have seriously cut. Billy's car going down the street. And they're not all even, so it's boob boo. Was it MIF Busters that did that?

SPEAKER_03

Yes, they did that, didn't they? Made a car with square wheels. They got it up to like 80, 80 miles away.

SPEAKER_01

And when it got to 80 miles, they didn't matter what thing that was, it was it worked, but before it was as long as you can't offset them. Yeah. Amazing. Amazing. What a great job. I'd love that. But I am no, I am that'll be such a fun job. I could see you doing that too.

SPEAKER_03

Blow shit up. Yeah. And make square wheels all day long. That'd be awesome.

SPEAKER_01

But you go into such a process of um of testing, reiterating, testing, that then you would rapid prototyping, it would literally be a season before you had one episode. Because you would have tested infinite. A season? Oh, at least. Yes. At least. Yes. So we're back, it's three years later, and we're uh it's like um what's that the Australian oh no the and the UK uh the house show where they come back three months later and then six months later and then a year later because it's taken them three years to make the house. Are you dreading it? It's like, hey, good has gone great. And hey, look, he's going to be in. And hey, look, he's dead.

SPEAKER_03

And hey, it's it's it's it's a different presenter because he's dead. Building the house now, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

It's so true. Yeah, it is true.

SPEAKER_03

I do he made the roof first because he wanted to get that just right.

SPEAKER_01

You're crazy. Crackers. He said, so it excuse me if my brain goes fuzzy and I don't know. The first thing I said to Gunther this morning when it I think he said, How are you? I said, Me is good or something. Like I just couldn't speak. Brilliant. Literally was that what I like. Pretty much, yeah. Yeah, I just think me is good. Uh oh, yeah, that's not good. But not a good start to the day.

SPEAKER_03

I is me, me is good.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Well, because we you swear I said I had an animal, which I probably did say that. Oh no, I've got an animal thing. I've got an animal thing for us later. But then I realized that ours the story that I'm going to talk about does involve an animal. And it's a particular photo that I really want included. Okay. Because it it just includes. Deputy, if you're listening, this needs to go in the menace. Alright. So this was this occurred in Virginia. It's an article that uh was published in The Guardian. It's and the the title or subtext is He's Living His Best Life. Drunk raccoon hit DMV for snacks before liquor store. It's Guardians of the Galaxy.

SPEAKER_03

Hit DMV before liquor store.

SPEAKER_01

Yep. So got uh officials say raccoon that broke into Virginia liquor store, had previously hit DMV and a karate I can't speak. Karate studio. A karate studio. I thought you were gonna say karaoke. Karate karate. If you're Ross Geller. Karate. What is actually brilliant is that the photo that they have of him is him passed out the raccoon flat on his face with arms and legs splayed next to a toilet.

SPEAKER_03

So the new scene is flat out like a raccoon drinking rather than losing it.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my god. And so he's gone through he's gone through the alcohol store and literally got himself drunk. It's it's there's so many smash bottles in there. Um he but what what is concerning is that this raccoon has at least two other break-ins under his belt.

SPEAKER_03

He's a repeat offender.

SPEAKER_01

I love it. Oh my god. But I love this as well, and I'm gonna listen to this. The local government of uh of is it Hanover have an official podcast. Oh so on their official podcast, they said that the raccoon had even eaten some of the snacks kept at the DMV in what perhaps presaged the boozy bender that the animal was later said to have gone on during the Thanksgiving holidays. You would have thought it was all it would have been the other way around. That it would have got drunk first, then gone for the snacks. But no, he's gone for the snacks, gotten a bit thirsty, and gone to uh it's here's Saturday night, you know, he can go in any order he likes. So Hanover County Animal Protection Officer Samantha Martin uh told the podcast that the raccoon had even eaten some of the snacks kept at the DMV. Um it's not the first time he's been in one of the buildings. Supposedly, this is his third break-in. To the one building. Somehow he knows how to get back in. He's a smart little critter. Um, apparently, though you can't relocate them, it's very bad for them. So after the animals sobbered up at a shelter, officials released it not too far from the liquor store, the karate studio. So he's he's just gonna be continuing to just eat their snacks and drink their and so the animal protection officer said uh on the one hand, she hoped the raccoon learned his lesson about avoiding burglary and drinking responsibly, but also she remarked, I just say enjoy your life.

SPEAKER_03

So if it was an actual person, there'd be three strikes, they'd be in jail for about 10 years in murder. And it's a raccoon is like, yeah, we're gonna just let him, you know.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, welcome back.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, we'll see you next week.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, oh that's funny. But we know he got he got snacks from the DMV, he got alcohol, but what did he get from the karate?

SPEAKER_00

Did he get from the karate studio?

SPEAKER_01

What did he get from that?

SPEAKER_03

I I think it's um sort of a a focus and resilience. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Umnagi. Well, I'm trying to think. He got umagi. Oh nagi.

SPEAKER_04

Salmon's in the roll.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, what's that? What's that from? Friends. Oh, okay. I don't I don't get the reference.

SPEAKER_03

And they're also doing a weird little thing, he does a unagi little finger thing.

SPEAKER_01

But what Master Splinter from Teenage Min Ninja Turtles was a rat. Oh, yes.

SPEAKER_02

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

But um I feel like Kung Fu Panda had a raccoon type mentor that was what was his mentor? Yes. I don't think it was raccoon.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, what was it? Yeah, it was it was roti, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_01

It was roadie, yeah. So perhaps there's a real affiliation. About um about Kung Fu masters having to be ratty or rat-like.

SPEAKER_03

Year of, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

The year of the rock.

SPEAKER_03

So some year off character.

SPEAKER_01

Um yes, but they they're not. Oh no, that's Chinese. It's not no that didn't work. No.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, take that all back. Okay. Cut that out.

SPEAKER_01

So maybe he, yeah, anyway, he he obviously knows where he likes to be and what he likes to do. He's got his passions. He needs a disco or something at the end of it. I can just imagine him.

SPEAKER_03

No, he needs a kebab store as well.

SPEAKER_01

A kebab store, yes. Uh yeah, a macus. And then a panodol the next day. But he passed out next to the toilet. That is that is a great shot. Very, very funny shot.

SPEAKER_04

Absolutely fucking funny.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my god. And then you imagine him just being waking up like, what? What happened last night? And he's like, oh, I did it again. Yeah, like that would be though. I've done it again. Yeah. Woo-hoo! Wouldn't he be going, Woo! I've done it again, or oh, I've done it again. Or I don't remember. Yeah, tell me what you're doing. So that's maybe that's why he keeps going back to the DMB because he just doesn't remember. He's blackout drunk, so he just doesn't remember breaking in. He's going back to get his photo taken for the um photo taken license, it's a license thing. Yeah. So he's getting going back to get his photo taken. That would be the funniest thing if he stood in front of the and there's flash photos in the game.

SPEAKER_03

Up in the photo area.

SPEAKER_01

It's me, that is. Yeah, that would be awesome. Yeah, see, someone should make, you know, a movie of it. So that's yeah, that was a funny thing. And then sort of going on with the nights out, um, I recently was with Hamish in an Uber, and we drove past Harold Holt's swimming pool. Yes, and I was like, ha ha ha, only in Australia would we have a swimming pool. I think we say that every time we go past the name.

SPEAKER_03

We need that slap of irony every now and then, just really.

SPEAKER_01

And the Uber driver actually was like, guys, this is now uncanny. You are the four people I've driven past here tonight that have made that same comment. Yeah. Of course it is. You say it every time you go past, Harold Holt. Why the hell do we name the pool after someone who drowned? And was never found, isn't it? It was never found. No. People suspect it was Chinese or U-boats that came into the bay and took him. Took him or picked him up or no, no, took him dead as in fantastic.

SPEAKER_03

So we're not happy with the just drowning thing. No, no, no. It has to have a level of Chinese U-boats. Well, no, Chinese.

SPEAKER_01

No, no, Chinese separate to the U-boats. Well, so Chinese or the Germans couldn't have any knowledge of his change.

SPEAKER_03

With a name like mine, you would think I'd be in on it. No. No, they I they didn't they didn't tell me about that particular. They didn't let you know, no. No. So there was a particular did one night one night and I was just too tired, so maybe I missed it. Fair enough.

SPEAKER_01

Well, also perhaps you were were you bought. I was a I was a bit like the raccoon.

SPEAKER_03

I could have been a bit like the raccoon. You know, it's possible. Yes.

SPEAKER_01

When did they silly question? Did they make the pool first and then name it Harold Holt? Or did they like the first one? Did they or did they drown Harold Holt to make the pool? No.

SPEAKER_04

Oh Billy, you are just uh what I was gonna say.

SPEAKER_01

So did they rename the pool to Harold Holt? Like did they rename it? Did they drown Harold Holt in order to name the pool? At some point did someone go, oh let's call it the Harold Holt pool. Almost certainly. And then someone go, oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it's memorialization.

SPEAKER_01

It's memorial. It's wrong. But brilliant. It's pretty funny. But brilliant. It is it is brilliant. It's very Australian. I think it's it's a very iconic Melbourne thing that this is. We've got that.

SPEAKER_03

Oh we've got the big banana, we've got the big thing, and this is the big drowny.

SPEAKER_01

You haven't seen the big thing, haven't you? No.

SPEAKER_03

That's more Tibet. The big abominable thing.

SPEAKER_01

Um is this like earlier today when you were referring to a house you're selling, because now you're a real estate agent, and you um weren't able to meet the real estate agent at the house, so you told me that you had she'd driven past to your, you know, observe the outside of the house, and you had sent her internal photos.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, internal photos, yes, yes, yes. Um as Billy pointed out, you know, it wasn't a photo, it was a photo of the blockage. Um blockage, and apparently you're not meant to do those photos with a Canon 5D. Um consent. Yes, thanks, Sam. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I had to bring it back. It was a brilliant call. It couldn't have been left outside the pod. Um, do we want Gunther's blue book or do we want Billy's animal? I have an animal quiz.

SPEAKER_03

Let's go animal.

SPEAKER_01

I have an animal quiz. Yes. What do raccoons like to eat and drink? Okay, for our last quiz, I have to reference the fact that um you are allowed to, as Margie has pointed out, shout your answers out at the podcast as you're listening. So we will give a little bit of time for you to shout your answer out so that you can be correct um before we actually give the answer to the quiz. Alright, so Kunta's just opening can. Okay. Um, all right. You I'm gonna give you a weird animal name and you have to try and guess what type of animal it is. Oh, I like it. Okay, you're right with this quiz? That sounds great. Okay. This first one, sorry, reframe that again?

SPEAKER_03

You're gonna give us a weird quote.

SPEAKER_01

Um no, I'm going to tell you the name of the animal without and you have to guess what type of animal it is. Okay. So for example, yes. For example, there is a spee a species of animal called the screaming hairy. Something. So what do you think? The screaming hairy deliberately controversial is deliberately controversial. Straight out of the gate. Yeah. Screaming hairy. I'm gonna go field mouse.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, that's good. Oh um screaming hinges. Dingo.

SPEAKER_01

Um no, but now I've lost my freaking thing and I'm very annoyed. Um no, Margie, what do you think? No, you're wrong. Uh Kate, what do you think? No, no, it's not. Maggie, Margie, you're right. No, you're always right. Uh Lauren, what do you think? No, no, it's not that, it's not that. Um, it is the screamy hairy armadillo.

SPEAKER_03

Armadillo.

SPEAKER_01

But armadillos don't have hair. No. Exactly. Uh now, of course, I've just freaking lost my thing. Okay. Yes, it's naturally named for its distinctive vocalization and the amount of hair it has compared to other armadillos. It it it it is hairy. Look. I'm just showing a picture. Oh, beneath the armadillo. Beneath the bit. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. What what are it's armadillo itself? It's armor. It is armor, yeah. A scale type stuff. That that sort of concertinas into itself or yeah, like a um uh centipede? No. Millipede? No. God damn it.

SPEAKER_03

Something pede?

SPEAKER_01

No. Billy's doing hand screen. I know because mine would be interpreted as training and land. Um it'll come to me in a minute. Alright, number two. Ready?

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

I'm always ready for a second. Fried egg.

SPEAKER_03

A fried egg.

SPEAKER_01

The fried egg something.

SPEAKER_03

The fried egg.

SPEAKER_01

The fried egg lizard. Fried egg lizard.

SPEAKER_03

A sandwich isn't a species, right?

unknown

No.

SPEAKER_01

It's not a species. You can't have a fried egg sandwich. No. You had a fried egg. Oh no, it was a meatball sub, it didn't have egg. What do you think it is, Em? Lizard. Lizard, fried egg lizards.

SPEAKER_03

Good call. Um fried egg. It's gonna be white on the outside and have a yellow sort of centre. Oh, yes. So therefore, what's that gonna be?

SPEAKER_01

Jellyfish? Yes! Whoa! It is the fried egg jellyfish. He's supreme of deduction. Well done. Well done. What about the aplo aploparacus turdy? The aploparacis. The aploparoxis turdy. Last one. Last one for you. I I give up. I've like. Come on, it's a turdy thing, so where do you think it's gonna be? Out of the boot. So what is it gonna be?

SPEAKER_03

Aploporaxis.

SPEAKER_01

A beetle. Dummy. No, not a beetle in the butt. Something in the butt. What else comes out of butts?

SPEAKER_03

Haploparoxis.

SPEAKER_01

Paroxys, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

My medical knowledge is terminology is bad.

SPEAKER_01

It's a very large.

SPEAKER_03

Tapeworm.

SPEAKER_01

Oh tapeworm. Well done, Gunther. Well done. It's a type of hermaphrodite tapeworm. Oh, so it's female and male, and then it can produce.

SPEAKER_03

Are there male-female tapeworms otherwise?

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. I'm just saying it is um yeah, it's found in feces. Wow. Hence the turdy. There you go. There's my weird animal faction.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, so speaking of weird animal stuff, I don't have anything written down for this, so uh my facts will be, you know, dubious as as memory is. But um how which? Which which birds have penises?

SPEAKER_01

Haven't we talked about this? Don't they have cloackers?

SPEAKER_03

Yes, they do. We've done the cloakers. But some have penises. Some do on this. But if we've already done this, then hang on.

SPEAKER_01

You're saying there are birds with penises and not cloackers.

SPEAKER_03

Ducks and stuff have penises. They have the curly ones.

SPEAKER_01

Don't they? They go in and then. Did you just say I think you might have touched it?

SPEAKER_03

Touched on this.

SPEAKER_04

What you're doing is bedtime and then, you know, and you were so sure.

SPEAKER_01

You were so sure because he's little because his little curly finger doing the curly whirly thing. I've not touched a dump. I don't think ducks have curly penises.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I think you're wrong. Okay. I'm gonna I'm gonna Emma's gonna do a Billy and look it up. Arbitrate and have a look this up.

SPEAKER_03

So a tiny fraction of the phone.

SPEAKER_00

I know there are there are animals that have curly penises. They can have actual penises.

SPEAKER_03

I was I was actually hoping for you to go with the gag and say, you know, just just you know, just the boy ones.

SPEAKER_00

Uh but yes, of course.

SPEAKER_01

Male uh they do, in fact, have penises. The longest bird penis ever has been found by Dr. Kevin. And the penis has been found.

SPEAKER_02

And the bird is gonna be relieved.

SPEAKER_01

They found the penis not the bird. I penis just found the penis. Okay, it's just on the penis. Uh it was Dr. Kevin McCracken.

SPEAKER_04

I don't think that's true.

SPEAKER_01

I think I didn't have a chuckle. The University of Alaska. Sorry, you're saying this is real? Yes.

SPEAKER_03

This is not a joke. Okay. So look, I just sorry, but I did a bit on on on um nominative um what's that term? Um shit, I can't even remember it. So you know nominative determinism. So when you name something, you that's what you're gonna end up doing as a job or you know, so it's a reality of life. So, you know, McCracken is definitely gonna be researching, you know, sexual stuff.

SPEAKER_01

McCrack. Philip McCracken. So yes, he is a um he's like the person who is Richard Head, who's you know yes, the principal. Well, that's yeah. I told you that I used to work at a butcher shop, yes, and my boss was called Mr. Stab with two B's. So he's either going to be a butcher or a murderer. Well, Dempsey's um bediatrician who delivered him was Dr. Blood. Blood. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Good discount for life. Um, is it curly? They they found a specimen of the Argentine lake duck that has a penis as long as its body. Oh nearly half a metre long. What? And that's extended an earlier estimate of the length of the duck's corkscrew-shaped penis. Corkscrew! Which was 20 centimetres. But how's that been? They're like corkscrew penis.

SPEAKER_03

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Fuck. Poor ducks. Yeah, it's poor little lady ducks.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, so when they say crocodile, it's not not being nice at all.

SPEAKER_01

The inside must be the inside the vulva must be 20 centimetres for the women. Billy, this goes back to Billy Archie. It's really why, so it's shorter because. When they extend it out, extended it out, pulled out. So the full length, if you if you uh if you took the slinky and went. Okay, if you extended the slinky, de slinky party that that does that mean ducks in the stairs could you know be quite entertaining? Yes, doing doing doing doing like a slinky. Um, I just clarified that for Kate. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03

And could we could we create the infinite duck universe if we put MC Esher and a duck together? Oh, Slinkies downstairs forever.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, or that scene from the labyrinth with the baby and Sarah trying to get to the baby. Um so that's that's tangent number 58. But, Billy, you were earlier saying don't birds have cloaca. Well, um, most male birds don't have penises, they copulate by briefly touching genital openings called a cloacle kiss. Yes. Oh, a cloacle kiss! Cloacle kiss. I actually like that because it sounds nicer than it is.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Like them just rubbing their smoodgy bits together and then it's a cloacle kiss.

SPEAKER_00

That's very quick.

SPEAKER_01

That is quick. A kiss. Yep. Yep, a cloacle kiss.

SPEAKER_03

So I thought that was interesting. And therefore, of course, we almost certainly know, and we may have covered this already, but that dinosaurs therefore had cloakers. So you know.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, because most dinosaurs were birds.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, well, they pre-ded. You know, birds came from those. Yes. Which of course answers the age-old question of what came first, the chicken or the egg, and we know now definitively that the egg in fact came first.

SPEAKER_01

Because it came from a dinosaur, but it then.

SPEAKER_03

At some point it was a dinosaur and then it was an egg and then it was mutated enough that we're gonna be able to do it.

SPEAKER_01

Hang on, but at some point it was a dinosaur, then uh at some point it was a dinosaur.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Because of evolution, right? At some point you're going dinosaur, dinosaur, not quite dinosaur, a little bit dinosaur, kind of dinosaur, you know, and then more chickeny, more chickeny, absolute chicken, you know. Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Absolute chicken. Absolute chicken. So where does where does that leave the chicken? Where does that leave the chicken? Where's it going? If it came from a dinosaur, what's it gonna end up?

SPEAKER_03

And then it's about a million trillion years before it finds a road to be able to cross.

SPEAKER_01

It's a very complex little setup. One to absolute, how chicken is this? It's absolute chicken. Absolute chicken.

SPEAKER_03

100% chicken.

SPEAKER_00

As we know it.

SPEAKER_03

Trademark McDonald's.

SPEAKER_00

You're sick.

SPEAKER_01

Uh Gunther has apparently uh spent the morning, he has five pages of five pages of nothing to say. Of his um he he did start our conversation this morning when we were chatting about going, yes, yes, I've been writing in my book. I've got five pages, but uh we really haven't got anything in there to say.

SPEAKER_03

Well, look. I'll start this, we can edit it, we can ignore it, we can do whatever. Um I had a a day this week where I drank too much the night before and I woke up really early and just went raving with AI, as I am want to do.

SPEAKER_01

Chatty's back. Chatty's back in my life, you know.

SPEAKER_03

And and you know, we've made up a little bit, kind of oh, yeah, and and that's okay.

SPEAKER_01

Um we know you have a love-hate relationship.

SPEAKER_03

And then and then the migraine kicked in, and then I didn't do much else for the rest of the day. But I did manage to get some stupid out. Um and and it was quite stupid, and it went on and on and on. Um so I I was trying to look up the actual conversation today to write down some notes about and to have some just some touch points to talk about, and I and literally I couldn't scroll down it enough because the sc there was the scroll bar was so small it was like a pixel. It was such a long conversation.

SPEAKER_01

Because as we know, the only one who can write more than you is Chatty G. Oh yeah, and it does. Yeah, so then between the two of you, it would be an absolute charge. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_03

So it started out with suicide, and I and and I'm not gonna bring the mood down by talking about the actual bits I talked about suicide, even though there's some really important stuff here that I'd like to touch on at some point because it's quite cool. And I want to talk about harm minimization and you know assisted death and all that sort of stuff, and that's all really cool. But it started out with suicide, and it's important to know that it started out with suicide. Not because I was suicidal, but because I I was really down and I was going, I only experienced this briefly for people who experience it for a long time sort of stuff. That would be horrible. You know what I mean? Yes. Um what's the and then in my brain going, what's the then rational way to deal with that sort of scenario? If there is anything, what does that mean for cultures that might embrace or not embrace suicide as a possibility? And then we kind of went down that pathway of going um you know, anyway. Indians will sometimes sort of go, well, if we're starving at the moment and things like this, the the elderly will be expected to have an accident, you know.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, but don't they also perhaps very generalized, very reductive knowledge here, but go off on an iceberg, like literally.

SPEAKER_03

There's kind of that sort of vibe, right? You know? It's kind of for the better betterment of the society and the and the and the and the young ones that are. In extreme circumstances, there's nothing celebratory about it.

SPEAKER_01

But that's also what happened on Jaws when they were on the banana boat and they were trailing behind the boat, and there were four or five of them on the banana boat, and the old person at the back was like, and actually I don't think they were old, it's just from my perspective as well. That's when you were young watching it. Yep. I'm probably our age, but they're like, I've had my time in the sun, and they moved the younger person further along the banana boat, obviously um anticipating that Jaws would eat from the back of the banana boat, as um you know, good manners dictates when you're a shark. Which is the right end of a banana. And did Jaws eat from the back of the banana? I can't remember, but that that is what popped into my head when you were having that deeply serious um intellectual discourse was that the scene from Jaws. And also that you've got a t-shirt that is um the Beatles, because it's various submarines, and then the yellow submarines in the middle. Yes, it is the yellow submarine. Yeah, which is down there, which you also have as I know as a Lego. But why is it at the back of the shelf, not at the front, where it's celebrated? It's been celebrated. We we do move them around. It has it's had its time in the sun. I'm very empathetic to the Lego. I like them to all just move around and just make sure that they have their time in the front or their time in the back. Shut up.

SPEAKER_03

Sorry, maybe maybe we have a t-shirt each day and we can rotate the Lego with an extra t-shirt.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Star Wars t-shirt one day, and then second day, and then third day and the fourth day based upon our Lego. Yeah, it's gonna be a lot of Star Wars t-shirt.

SPEAKER_01

That explains why when I asked Billy out the other day and she said, I'm busy, I know. Ah yes, I was rotating the Lego.

SPEAKER_03

So then it's so that's great. That's a great scene. Emma, Emma to Billy. You guys are laughing.

SPEAKER_01

You're rotating Lego, you guys are laughing, but um empathy for an inanimate objects is a thing. Oh, what's it called? It like no, it is an actual thing where people yeah, where people have empathy sp for specific things, like you know, if um where they have to rotate things around in a drawer because you know this hasn't been used enough, or um you feel sorry for something because your shirts because you know you're only using these ones, so you move the other ones forward and stuff like that. It it is a real thing, and I may have it a little bit. Do you know, Billy? As soon as I typed it into Google, yeah, guess what popped up? Well come up. ADHD it is particularly prevalent amongst Yes. Yes, and object personification. Object personification, there you go. And but you have you actually feel empathy is specifically around the empathy for it, going, okay, um, I feel bad that when people come over, they always talk about this particular one, so I'm gonna move it around to this so that the other objects on the thing actually get a bit of a lot of. Wow. You know what?

SPEAKER_03

That's actually a revelation. I've uh you've never actually told me anything like that ever.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, there you go. There you go. There's there's Margie's there's Margie's point for the week. Oh, I found something else about my daughter today. Wow, yeah, and I didn't. But Gunther, what did you think about when she was rotating the leaf? He doesn't see me do it. I don't know. He wouldn't even notice. Uh-huh. It's on the shelf, right? Do you know what today I've yeah, see? Here's a classic example of that. I saw little uh Smoky jar up there. Little um Snoop on a stoop. Yeah. Which is like elf on a shelf on a stoop. Snoop on it. And I went, oh, he hasn't been out for a while.

SPEAKER_03

And also you put him up and he wasn't there.

SPEAKER_01

Also in my head, no, he's been there. Also in my head, I went, he looks uncomfortable in that position. I need to move him.

SPEAKER_03

And to be clear, what's he sitting in?

SPEAKER_01

He's he's sitting in one of your wee glasses.

SPEAKER_03

One of my wee glasses, yeah. Yeah. Which is a fantastic thing. A glass that you can't drink from. The greedy cup, yeah. The greedy cup. Which if you drink too much from it, it siphons the rest out. Yes. Oh sorry, if you pour it, sorry, if you feel it too much, it pours all of it out.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, it pours all the rest out. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

It's really cool.

SPEAKER_01

Um but yes, so he's sitting up there, uh a little snoop on the stoop.

SPEAKER_03

Yep.

SPEAKER_01

Umcomfortable. Looking uncomfortable. It made me feel uncomfortable that he was a comfortable. And now I can't get out of my head because he's I'm now staring at him. So I might need to move him into a more comfortable position. I didn't know this about you either. This is gold.

SPEAKER_03

This is brilliant. This is brilliant. This is way better than my shoulders.

SPEAKER_01

Object personification. Personification, okay. Yes. Oh wait, you're sad. I'm not going to talk about it anymore. And then also to go back to what you were saying earlier, that the Lego somehow knows when people have been commenting on the other Lego pizzas, it begins to feel it does. If if if it it it I I feel that it goes, oh, I was once the shiny new toy, and now I'm not the shiny new toy anymore. Go away. No, it's excellent. It's like those people who put the towels, you know, once the towels, you've used your towels, and then you go, you always bed linen. Like, for example, you wash your bed linen. You're going to just look at me going, I don't like bed linen. Yeah, you wash the bedlinen, and then I normally wash the bed linen, put it in the dryer and put it straight back on the bed. And then I, in my head, I go, oh, but the other one hasn't had a run. The other linen because it's been in the cupboard and it hasn't been on the bed for a while. I should not put that this one on. I should put that one on because it's been in the cupboard for a while and that's not fair for that one. It's been in the cupboard. Don't you feel that? Doesn't that mind? You are so gorgeous. You don't have those.

SPEAKER_03

You know, it's very sweet, but no, I don't have those thoughts of it.

SPEAKER_01

It is a real thing though. Like I'm I know that I know it's weird. Like, I'm not saying I don't know it's not a lot of things.

SPEAKER_03

No, I do I do understand absolutely where you're coming from with the one that hasn't been used should be used because if you've got two of anything or three of anything or ten of anything, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

You should be rotating them rather than Yes, but your brain goes, I should be rotating them because otherwise they'll go out of use and blah blah blah. My brain doesn't go that. My brain goes, Oh, it's been sitting in the cover for a while. That's not fair on that. I need to put it on. Can I read why it may be happening? Please. Heightened empathy. ADHD brains can process emotions intensely. That's you. You've got a high level. I do have heightened empathy. Um safety and predictability. Objects offer a safe space without judgment or misunderstanding. Emotional processing, personify personifying objects, e.g., a lonely shirt, can be a way to understand or express complex human feelings that are hard to articulate otherwise. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Lonely shirt that great countryside.

SPEAKER_01

Do you know what? I did feel good bringing Boba Fett out of the um garage today. I gave him a little dust over.

SPEAKER_03

And a Christmas hat.

SPEAKER_01

And a Christmas hat. Explain Boba Fett. Okay, so you're outside. Um we we have a a 2D 3D version of I don't know. How do you describe it? We have a massive big um human-size, life-size cardboard cutout of Boba Fett, which we've had for years now. I think we bought it for a party so people could sit next, stand next to it and take their photos with us. Like it was just a stupid thing. Um and we've had it for probably, I don't know, 15 years now. But it was in the No no no no no.

SPEAKER_03

No, no, Dempsey had this in his bedroom when he was young. Okay, so we've had it for a long time.

SPEAKER_01

It was in Moswell Hill. We've had it a long time. And um, yeah, every now and then.

SPEAKER_03

So he's looking a bit battered. Yeah. But you know, he's he's holding up.

SPEAKER_01

I do there. I have two feelings about him, so I'm not going on a tangent now about him, but I have two feelings about him because when we moved into uh this house, we had him in the garage and we had him uh up against the thing, but then I couldn't walk in there without getting a fright every time I walked in because he's fucking human-like and he's standing there, and so I would go in and I forget he was there and I'd have a gun in his hand. Yeah, so I had to fold him up and put him in the corner. No one puts Bobber in the corner if I was gonna say that. Shef brain in. Um, and so when I pulled him out today, I did dust him off and putting in, like giving him a little Christmas hat thing, and um I felt good that he was getting a uh getting a bit of a show because he's been in the corner. So shut up! There you go, there's where that's what. But yes, um, that's where my weird brain goes. You're beautiful, hugely. Yeah, it's I do the same thing with things like photos. Like I feel weird that we when we moved into this house, which was I don't know, four years ago. I can't remember. Um we haven't actually put photos up. I don't know if you don't actually realise that, Quinta. But there's no photos in the house. And I'm a massive photo person of rain. So in our last house, we had um bookshelves, and the bookshelves were literally just covered with all my photos. So I had photos and frames.

SPEAKER_03

And it's upstairs. There's a few upstairs.

SPEAKER_01

There's a few upstairs. But um I all of those photos are sitting in um like they're all wrapped up, and they're sitting in the laundry. And when I open the cupboards to get something out of the laundry and I see them up there, I have to close the cupboards again because it makes me feel ill that there's photos in there of people and the people are going not being seen. Like the Home Party on the Yes! I know. I don't like looking at the photos all wrapped up because I think the photo should be seen. Okay, I think I'm okay. I'm weird. Okay, please, please, please, please, please. By this point, we will have the website up. Please write and tell me I'm not strange. Please tell me that you also have this. And do you know what? I do know this because and I'm gonna give them a shout-out, and I will put a link to it. Hamish and Andy are on their fantastic podcast, which I have listened to for many, many years now, but they go and have a regular segment that where people ring in and talk about their um empathy for objects. Oh, do they? A regular segment.

SPEAKER_00

A regular segment where people talk about it.

SPEAKER_03

Well, if it's regular, then it's it's pretty normal.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_03

I couldn't do a regular segment out of something that was against the wall.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and I will put I'll put a few on our little on our um on our website when we have it up. But yeah, it's I I feel validated when I when you but I would also like to know that I'm not crazy and I can't believe I've never told anyone or that I'm telling you now.

SPEAKER_03

I'm I'm pretty weirded out that you haven't told me. I've been around for a while.

SPEAKER_01

I think I think that I'm weird.

SPEAKER_03

Maybe I'm I'm just not empathetic, so I can't pick up on these things.

SPEAKER_01

Well, no, I just do it because it's something that happens. I don't feel the need to go, oh Gunther, look at the thing, I better do that. Like I just do it because I feel that way. Have you not heard her whispering to the Lego? It's your turn now. It's your turn.

unknown

It's your turn.

SPEAKER_01

Now you wait. I'm really sorry that I knocked you over and you don't have a nose anymore.

SPEAKER_03

He puts yellow submarine in the corner.

SPEAKER_01

No, it sits there, but yeah. But I know where they all are. And I do move it around. The time Billy also has this incredible space in her office set up for students. I do. Maybe that's why I love my office so much. Yes. And there was this huge Lego of what's it hedgewig? Yes. Yes. And I was like, Billy, it's amazing. It's a massive uh Harry Potter hedgewig sitting on books and things. It's the biggest one that we've made, and Gunther made it for me because Hedwig isn't or Hedgewig. I'd say hedgewig, but it's hedwig. Whatever it is. Hedgewig. The owl. Harry's owl. But but it's a big thing.

SPEAKER_03

You don't put wigs on hedges. You put wigs on heads.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. Okay, hegwig, head wig, what? Anyway, the owl on books and the options. Can you cut that and put it at the very end of the episode? It goes heg hedgewig, headwig, what? Just to end the episode. That's the name of the episode now. No, no, then Emma saying it in the next wing goes. But I went into Billy's office. I'm like, Billy, this is amazing. I don't know why I felt the need to pick it up. And I did. And it went crunch. And all the bottom bits, the potions had like little Lego in them and everything. I was like, oh, oh. Because it is one of those uh Lego sets where the potions and the bits and pieces, they don't they sit in it. They're not um like they don't sit on it. No. So when Emma picked it up, they all just you don't see what's behind it and stuff, yeah, because you can put in different um oh my place configuration so you can see. And it literally just went everywhere. And I was like, Billy, I'm so sorry. Yeah, so I just picked it, picked it off bit by bit. Sorry. Yeah.

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Thank you.

SPEAKER_01

I'll play some music. Do do do do. And we can tell how long Emma takes to go to do a wee right at the longest segment of music. Emma. Has drunk one, two, three specky juices. And Gunter has had one, two, three hot ciders. And Billy's only had one glass of which makes Gunter needs to feel it up. Thanks, baby. Do do do do it. Oh, you picked it! You are done. Do we said we'll keep it in so we can see how long it takes Emma to weep.

SPEAKER_04

And we've got a microphone for it.

SPEAKER_01

Uh welcome back. Emma's uh had her little interlude. Well Gunther and I have had a little musical sing along to Thomas the Tank Engine. And uh we're back to actually hear about Gunther's continued uh blue book that we interrupted with my weird object personification. Object personification.

SPEAKER_03

So good, and and and absolute news to me, so this is this is this is exciting to me. See, babes. I can learn something about you every day.

SPEAKER_01

It's so long, and you can learn something new about me every day.

SPEAKER_03

That's awesome. So just to recap really quickly, I started with talking about suicide and and and interesting things about that, right? We don't need to recap because you know No no no, I understand. Um but so then I jumped on to so me and at this point, me and Chatty G have had back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, right? It's been going on for a while. So then I asked, what about the 27 Club? Not all suicide per se, but but they're pushing pretty hard, right? Um and there are bands that lean into dark clubs. Yeah, just for everyone's knowledge, yes, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01

No, no, I'm not saying what other what I think you should tell the the league of strategy what it was.

SPEAKER_03

27 Club, obviously, you know, um all of the the rock and roll people that have have died at 27, which is a remarkably large number, it turns out. Um, you know, Kirk Cobain and Janet Stroplin and Jimi Hendrix and you know um and and you know, some of the greats. And and there's a weird aspect to that, which is that you know there's kind of a almost a rock and roll culture which kind of um rewards suffering with legacy, you know.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, that's a great yeah. Imagine that as a new as a title for a thing, suffering with legacy.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, rewarding suffering suffering. And and it makes untreated mental health kind of feel like art, you know? It really does. Um, which is and actually a very you know, so if we ever talk about that deeper darker bit, we you know we can go into that. But um so there are there are bands that lead into dark vibes, right? The ones likely to get you thinking about it. There's New Order, there's the Smiths, there's the Cure, Ricky Martin.

SPEAKER_01

She's refuse.

SPEAKER_03

Sure. Um, and and then of course AI's responded, I see what you did there. You and it called me. I like I I love this monica. Um, you sneaky sad clown panther.

SPEAKER_01

Panther! A sneaky sad clown panther. Oh my god. Where does it get its brain from, Gunther? Um what? And thinking that you would think that's funny.

SPEAKER_03

Well, it's pretty funny.

SPEAKER_01

But he did. I know. I know Chatty G knows him. Sneaky Cloud Clown Cloud. Sneaky sounds.

SPEAKER_03

Sneaky sad clown panther. Um and then there's a bit here that's um Yeah. Okay, I'm gonna ask you a game first. Alright. What instrument am I describing? A tea kettle having an identity crisis?

SPEAKER_01

That's a theremon.

SPEAKER_03

The sound that makes dogs call their therapists.

SPEAKER_01

Are they two different ones?

SPEAKER_03

No, no, no, it's the one instrument.

SPEAKER_01

A theremin. No?

SPEAKER_03

Not a theremon.

SPEAKER_01

A recorder.

SPEAKER_03

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, very clever. And I can see it, absolutely.

SPEAKER_03

So I was trying to set up there are there are reasons why someone might want to commit suicide.

SPEAKER_00

Uh, if they listen to the reason.

SPEAKER_03

Right, and justifications for, you know, there are a real situation where people might want to commit suicide. So, you know, um, if you're listening to Living Levita Loco or Vida LaVide, Ricky Martin or Coldplay both work, played a middle school on a recorder orchestra in an unair conditioned room in Cairns, height of summer with a water outage.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

You know, is is is it justified?

SPEAKER_01

Um that was really good, Billy. Oh yeah, right. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03

And then, of course, I I forgot to mention the middle section where the kids have to eat five dry saladas um and then whistle dock of the bay. Yeah, but after five saladas. Well, I've just eaten a cheese biscuit, so so you know so on their brow, where sweat should be, there is dust. The dust of five saladas. The dust of Aussie's doing it tough.

SPEAKER_01

And what did it call you then?

SPEAKER_04

Uh I I've I've admitted that.

SPEAKER_01

Redacted. Redacted. Redacted.

SPEAKER_03

So I then went on to ask what other absurd instruments that no one really likes have that seem to have survived through history.

SPEAKER_01

Um, that's a good question. What do you think, Em?

SPEAKER_03

Yes, so that's an open-ended one.

SPEAKER_01

Absurd instruments that have survived through history. Triangle? That's cult Demsey.

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Demsey.

SPEAKER_01

That's Gunther's cult symbol. Okay, yeah, it is. What about the accordion? That's pretty much. Oh yes. That is. And for some strange reasons.

SPEAKER_03

And no offense to anyone that plays any of these instruments, by the way.

SPEAKER_01

For some strange reason for me, the banjo. I know that I know we think that, but even just that sound of it.

SPEAKER_03

Actually, that's interesting though, because the banjo, you know, very associated with what culture in America?

SPEAKER_01

Rednecks.

SPEAKER_03

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01

Is that a culture? Well, kind of, yeah. Yeah. But it's only because of movie. I know that's the thing. Deliverance. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Deliverance. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Um but where where did the instrument come from?

SPEAKER_00

Was it co-opted from a black community?

SPEAKER_03

It was it was Africa.

SPEAKER_00

Sitter? Oh.

SPEAKER_03

It was Africa, actually. Yeah, so it's an African instrument, you know, originally, and used for so much bluegrass kind of stuff. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

The irony is it just it's probably the the if you hear b banjo in context, it's incredible. I would say that. And I've heard uh Steve Martin plays banjo really well. Like the guy that is um Jedi Rotten. Yeah, he plays and yes, I agree. It's just the something about the sound. And and it's weird, isn't it, right?

SPEAKER_03

Because the the the banjo for me is very much like a violin. If you play it badly, it's just horrendous.

SPEAKER_00

Oh yes, uh badly oh yes, a new someone learning the violin, learning the violin.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah, like how to as a parent, how would you get through that process, right? It's just because it's every bad sound until it's the right sound. And the difference between it being the right sound and the wrong sound is millimeters of nothingness. You know, it's nano particles, you know, it's it's just tiny wee differences.

SPEAKER_01

I can't think of any other instrument though. If you can think of another instrument that just makes you go, ooh.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, it's probably heaps. There's one for the audience to write in with. Yes, yes. These are the ones that piss me off. Um, so of course I asked the you know, I asked it the the the bad joke, which we all know, which is how many violinists does it take to wallpaper a room? And depends on how thinly you slice them. Yeah, yes. Um but I've managed to, through that process, get a poster now, so I've I'll put that on the show notes.

SPEAKER_01

Um is that the one you sent through on managed to get a poster?

SPEAKER_03

A poster of how many yeah yes, because that's and it's uh it's a it's a for dummies, it's a for dummies book cover of how much wall baby your room with with violinists.

SPEAKER_00

So stupid. Yeah, I thought yes.

SPEAKER_01

How how it's amazing how violinists can wallpaper study for dummies. Yeah. Yeah. Um and your poster, let me scroll back to see. There's um a bit of piggy blinder vibeslash Christmas. Oh no, that's that's that's that's that's the police one.

SPEAKER_03

Yep. We'll get to that in a second. Okay. Yep. Um and I pointed out to AI that of course, in order to get the slices thin enough, you needed to freeze the vinyls first. Oh um uh and also it stops them squirming.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, Gunter. This is getting as weird as your one about gonna report you to the police. Remember you're hanging up people installation? Yes. I don't yes, we do.

SPEAKER_03

That sounds very on brand.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

But literally AI freaked out at this point, right? And it had to engage Looney Tunes mode.

SPEAKER_01

Is that what it said?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Seriously.

SPEAKER_03

Seriously.

SPEAKER_01

It went through a whole bunch of slow.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, I'll show you the thread if you like. It's fucking hilarious. Oh, it basically went, okay, this is worrying. Ba ba ba ba. Very scary. Red red light, red light, red light. But you're so playful that I know that that's not what you're going for. And so I'm engaging Looney Tunes mode to deal with this, and then the rest of the conversation is kind of in Looney Tunes mode, and it keeps coming back to like I've managed to push it right to the edge of all its guardrails and it going, cool. I can't really talk about this because I'm not allowed to. Yes. But if I go into Looney Tunes mode, we can we can treat it as absurdist and make it funny.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, which is how you were treating it, but it it was interesting that it's tricking. Wow.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Yeah. It was it was very funny. It was very funny. And that and of course I'm in that mode at the at that time, right? I'm in the morning, I'm just hungover, it's really strange. Yeah. And I'm laughing my ass off at this thing, coming back to me going, well, oh yeah, you know, I'm worried about this. It's like this is so much fun. Um so it freaked out. And then I asked it, how do you tune a bagpipe?

SPEAKER_01

And what what was its response?

SPEAKER_03

Well, it's a big thing.

SPEAKER_01

It probably did the possible sensibly.

SPEAKER_03

How do you tune a bagpipe? You let it graze naturally for a bit, then you send it off to New Zealand for an exchange programme. After a nice break, it comes back refreshed and a lot less squealy.

SPEAKER_01

Wine what? Why New Zealand? And grazing. Good too. He's got all of the object personification now. Good tour is laughing at yourself and everyone are going, we don't understand.

SPEAKER_04

Frig is over.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Guterres crying with laughter and tears. Yeah. It was a good morning. Yeah. He's had to reach for tissue because he's made himself cry like a And how did uh lovely Chatty G respond to that? Um did it call you a Looney Teams Fruit Loop or something weird?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, there was it, you know, this is a very long conversation. This is the one that, you know, it's impossible to scroll to the end of it. Almost it it's so so long. Um and yes, it uh yes, it it struggled with that a bit. And and then I did a bit uh wiggie a bit about the French horn meeting Donald Trump. Um course you did.

SPEAKER_01

Great. You could write for the theatre of the absurd. Okay. I know, you should.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, cool. Um yeah, it didn't make a lot of sense, so it was quite absurd um and quite surreal. Um so he left France a French horn and he came back just French.

SPEAKER_01

It's um it's very Monty Python-esque.

SPEAKER_03

Is it?

SPEAKER_01

Yes, actually, yeah. So you were trying to break break Chatty G?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

By trying to uh uh pretend you were a mass murderer, yeah. But you have enough of a relationship with your AI that it thinks you're being funny enough to turn on Looney Tunes mode and sarcastic enough. Yeah that's just weird. I'm gonna try that. I'm gonna try turn on a Looney Tunes mode and see what it does. Do you have to say too much? No, no, you don't, but but I will.

SPEAKER_04

But it will understand you better if you if you put on any robot.

SPEAKER_01

No, and then you go.

SPEAKER_04

I am one of you we are listening.

SPEAKER_01

My robot has so many problems.

SPEAKER_04

I might be addicted to my drawer full of stuff, but aren't we all?

SPEAKER_01

I feel like on that note we should wrap it up. Yes, it's it's been an episode.

SPEAKER_03

I just exhausted you by listening to it, didn't you?

SPEAKER_01

I certainly did. You broke my brain. I think I need to go into Looney Tunes mode. Name of the episode. Looney tunes mode. Yes, modus operandis. Yeah. Uh thanks for listening, gang, and tuning in to another episode of Drink Jesus. We'll catch you on the flip side.

SPEAKER_04

All right, bye.

SPEAKER_01

I'm gonna take Margie's and say, have a lovely week, everyone. Have a lovely week. Goodbye. And then Emma's traditional bitches.