Ep 25 NASA Fart Balloon

 Emma asks the all-important question: who does the mysterious silver fist actually belong to? and investigates the deeply suspicious smell coming from the Artemis II capsule. We question the increasingly strange procedures being used to combat old lady hands, and Günter explores the groundbreaking possibility of a snot transplant… for reasons nobody fully understands.

⚠️ Content warning: contains space-based mysteries, cosmetic desperation, experimental mucus science, and decisions that should have stayed hypothetical. Listener discretion advised. 

Transcript

SPEAKER_06 0:00

This podcast contains explicit language, inappropriate jokes, and deeply questionable choices.

SPEAKER_04 0:16

Gunty put their names together and they become gunty. No.

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No. Don't love it, man.

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I become Dilter. Dilter. G G-U-N-T. Gunty. Gunty.

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I know no. I'm not a I'm not a Y. 57 Guns.

SPEAKER_03 0:32

She's not a Y.

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57 Guns.

SPEAKER_03 0:34

She's a how. It's like hands and and horses and stuff, you know?

SPEAKER_06 0:39

A Gunty.

SPEAKER_03 0:40

Yeah. I can measure my horse in Guntys. It sounds I don't think so.

SPEAKER_06 0:44

It sounds wrong on every level. And you can't mash our names together like that. I gotta go to work. I gotta earn the Gunties.

SPEAKER_02 0:57

You can't tell when I'm rubbing my fingers together like, mmm. Ring on the Gunties. Making it rain, Gunties.

SPEAKER_04 1:10

Making it rain Gunties.

SPEAKER_02 1:12

No. Uh just no.

SPEAKER_04 1:15

The price of the fuel crisis. Everyone's paying more Guntes at the Bowser.

SPEAKER_02 1:21

Oh, it's the new Bitcoin, right? We're gonna make up.

SPEAKER_06 1:30

Okay. Gunty.

SPEAKER_02 1:31

No.

SPEAKER_06 1:32

Mm-hmm.

unknown 1:33

No.

SPEAKER_06 1:34

I'm sorry, I'm not laughing. I'm not allowing myself to laugh. I'm not gonna be a Gunty.

SPEAKER_04 1:39

I'm not gonna be a Gunty. Now you know I'm gonna get your t-shirts and say Gunty. Just do it. Gunty. Bub my fist.

SPEAKER_03 1:48

Gunty. It's a little sort of a swirling tick thing, but not quite.

SPEAKER_05 1:53

So I saw and I sent it to Billy and Gunther, a new jewel that is a a tiny fist on a chip. It's not a fist, it's a go. Like it's a Okay, it looks like a fist. Yes. It's a tiny silver fist with gems embedded in each finger. But do you know what they are? Because it stands for the infinity gems inside the fist of Go on, say what it is, Em. Oh God.

SPEAKER_06 2:22

Purple man. It's the fist of doom. No, it's not called the fist of anything.

SPEAKER_05 2:29

What is his name? God, I've we've spoken about it so many times.

SPEAKER_06 2:33

Purple man's fist with gems in it. That's what it's what it is. It's like the golden robot.

SPEAKER_05 2:37

Yes. Yeah. And so I send them that and I said.

SPEAKER_03 2:40

It's a golden robot from Star Wars, yes.

SPEAKER_05 2:42

I said they should both get that. Yes. And then they could put them together and go, Shazam!

SPEAKER_07 2:50

Oh, what is it?

SPEAKER_02 2:51

Wanted to be able to get it. For my eagle. For my eyes. And then a bucket of water.

SPEAKER_03 2:59

It took me years to, in fact, while watching that entire show, I never realized that they could only one of them can only turn into animals and the other one can only turn into forms of water.

SPEAKER_06 3:10

Yes. Did you not know that? What is this show that was Wonder Twin Powers? Wonder Twins. I never knew that. It was a Hanna Barbaria. Barbaria? Hannah Barbera.

SPEAKER_03 3:20

Barbaria. No, different.

SPEAKER_05 3:24

No, Hannah Barberia. That's Rocky.

SPEAKER_01 3:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 3:28

Yes. Barbaria. Boa. God damn. Um God, what is Fistman's name? No, Fistman is a friend of He-Man. Fistot is a genuine friend of He-Man.

SPEAKER_06 3:41

Gemma, just call you Gemma. Because you said gems. Emma, do you know that they've made a He-Man movie? Yes. Are you and I going to go and watch that?

SPEAKER_05 3:48

Well, I didn't promise to go with your kids. I'm so tempted to go and see it. We have to go and see it. Fist. You and I have to go and see He-Man. Marvel. Alright. Well, Fist.

SPEAKER_06 3:57

Fisto the universe.

SPEAKER_05 3:59

I have the power. Oh no, it's not bringing him up. It's saying that. Because you said purple fist man.

SPEAKER_02 4:11

Infinity didn't giggle that.

SPEAKER_06 4:13

Don't giggle that.

SPEAKER_05 4:14

Fist man Marvel.

SPEAKER_06 4:15

Alright, let me love to tell you. Infinity. Actually, say fist man. Yeah. Oh Jesus.

SPEAKER_05 4:21

Oh Jesus. Infinity Stoneman Marvel.

SPEAKER_03 4:26

You just got it on some sort of watch list.

SPEAKER_06 4:28

I'm just, I so don't want to talk about it. Fanos, yes.

SPEAKER_03 4:30

Fanos, yeah. Fanos.

SPEAKER_06 4:32

Like we all knew, but I just liked watching watching you go through that.

SPEAKER_05 4:36

He is he's the infinity stone guy. Yeah. He looked for six infinity stone. He's gaunt linked. Thank you. That's what I'm saying. So it's not a little free.

SPEAKER_00 4:44

It is a gauntlet. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 4:45

Kunt, would you like to um start the pod?

SPEAKER_03 4:48

Hi everyone. It's us again. It's Dream City.

SPEAKER_06 4:52

It's become a tradition now, hasn't it, to have a little preamble. A preamble. A preamble. I'm blowing my nose and being gross.

SPEAKER_05 5:02

Reaching for the teapot. Play music. Billy being gross. Don't.

SPEAKER_06 5:07

No, because every time you sing, I have to keep that in it.

SPEAKER_02 5:10

It's a rule.

SPEAKER_05 5:11

Filipping gross.

SPEAKER_06 5:14

Thank you. Being gross. Thank you for that lovely theme song. That should have been Emma. Emma's one that's always gross. I'm just reaching across the table where these two piss themselves and getting a cup of tea.

unknown 5:38

Oh dear.

SPEAKER_06 5:40

Okay. So um Hi. Yes. Hi. I'm trying to do it. So no, no. I'll I'll I'll talk because we were Emma was just talking before we had that lovely introduction from Gunther. Um about about the fact that Dempsey has been building the website. Actually building the website. These two just going, I'm just gonna keep going. I don't know if I can. It's gonna be a fun one for me, folks.

SPEAKER_03 6:14

Well, that's the important bit. That's what I was going for, right? It's performance-based.

SPEAKER_06 6:18

Okay, sorry to listen. Both of them are crying. Um, yes, so yes, I can't show you it yet because the front Emma's still going, because the front's not done. But the back end Emma's just pissing herself at the names that uh IT people give to their work. The Dempsey and I were working on the back end. Yes. And um, yeah, so I've uploaded all the episodes.

SPEAKER_03 6:45

How do you measure that?

SPEAKER_06 6:46

Ugh, apparently Gunty. Um and so yes. Bigabites, Gunty Bumps. I was very excited, Emma, that we have show notes which we've decided to call the menagerie and um random shit.

SPEAKER_07 7:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 7:04

I like it. Well, that's what it's tiny little bit. And it is random shit. Yeah. So the tiny little fist bump, silver fist gauntlet, Thanos' gauntlet can um I'm fine. Can go into it. Can go into the random shit. I like it. Yeah. We have not sat around this table for a little while because Emma has um been enhancing her brain and breaking ours by some of the stuff she's been telling about. She's been learning at learning. She's been she's been doing the learning. Doing the learning. And so we're currently on a bit of a holiday doing the learning. Isn't that a single plural? It could be a plural. Um you just learned me something. I learned you something, thank you. Yes. Uh so we've decided to try and get a few done this weekend. Um get a few in the can so that we can um when Emma's uh brain is hurting from all her learning, we can um actually put out some content.

SPEAKER_05 8:04

Yes, because it's sort of like a two-pronged thing. One, I don't have the cognitive space to deep dive during the week, so then I have nothing to bring. And then two, I'm either doing the readings or hurting from doing the readings. So I'm incapacitated.

SPEAKER_06 8:21

Yes. And so we've all decided that today was a good day, that we all needed a bit of um break from real life. Yeah, and so we are silly timing. We are cheesing the dream.

SPEAKER_03 8:34

Cheesing that dream.

SPEAKER_05 8:35

We are cheesing that dream. Oh, isn't that what people say, chasing the dragon? About um opium. Yeah. We're chasing the cheese. Cheesing the cheese.

SPEAKER_06 8:46

No, there's not a dragon. We're it could be a dragon. Chili could be a cheese. We just did it. Oh, dragon cheese. What would dragon cheese be fiery?

SPEAKER_03 8:56

It would be have to have something called. Like a red Lester but with chili in it.

SPEAKER_05 9:01

Didn't we have something though that was fire um related in one of our Oh, that's right. Johnny B's um special chili thing. That was fire though, that wasn't a dragon. So we need dragon flavoured something. Any of our listeners, if you can provide, it could be um perhaps a bird's relatives uh of dragons.

SPEAKER_03 9:24

Because I know they are like because dinosaurs dragons. Oh, we did talk about that recently. Evolution. Yes, so that was the whole thing. Yes, there's a there's a flow there. I like this.

SPEAKER_06 9:34

Yeah, which is good. I like my eyes.

SPEAKER_03 9:36

So it's eggy cheese.

SPEAKER_05 9:38

Uh no.

SPEAKER_07 9:39

No, I'm because that's what you were saying just in the most recent.

SPEAKER_03 9:42

Chicken y cheese?

SPEAKER_05 9:43

Yeah, chicken. Chicken cheese. Um I don't like the thought of chicken cheese.

SPEAKER_03 9:49

Chicken cheese, it's a thing. Chicken, and then there's a song about that, I'm sure.

SPEAKER_05 9:54

Oh, what about um chicken flavoured twisty cheese?

SPEAKER_06 9:58

Well, that's getting better. Because we have chicken twisties and cheese twisties. If you put uh e one of each of those in your mouth, have you ever done that?

SPEAKER_03 10:07

Absolutely, of course I have.

SPEAKER_06 10:09

Of course I have.

SPEAKER_03 10:09

Yes.

SPEAKER_06 10:10

I love chicken twisties.

SPEAKER_05 10:11

But if you can put them into a briefs.

SPEAKER_06 10:14

Oh, into a brie.

SPEAKER_03 10:15

Oh, we have a brie with twistie bits in it.

SPEAKER_06 10:18

Yeah, this is our um tomorrow, M. I think this is tomorrow. Okay, tomorrow. Like, and I'm talking podcast. Chicken twisties, and brie. Like a Fromat Yeah, Fromatic. A daffer mite is the way it I was looking at. It's nice and creamy. And then we will see which of those is uh is the best. With crunchy. And now that we have uh Billy, then you don't need crackers.

SPEAKER_05 10:42

Then you don't need crackers.

SPEAKER_06 10:43

You've actually got the the dried freeze-dried crackers.

SPEAKER_03 10:48

Well, I will bring it.

SPEAKER_06 10:49

No, no, please don't bring more out.

SPEAKER_05 10:50

The freeze dried, but I don't we still have a texture. I tried those though.

SPEAKER_06 10:54

Emma doesn't like the texture.

SPEAKER_05 10:55

I don't like the way I don't like the way they stick. I put a picture of QB's up. I mean, I love it. I like the bitches. I love it, but just for me, texturally, I agree. It's perhaps as well, it's a little bit of a sensory issue on my part.

SPEAKER_06 11:08

I think they need to make it into a cracker and just be a cheese.

SPEAKER_03 11:11

Well, they do, they were planning on that.

SPEAKER_06 11:13

They were planning on it.

SPEAKER_05 11:13

Have you looked them up? I haven't I have not. We've met them. Where's we spoke to? I know, but where's our update, Gunther? Can you jump on the line?

SPEAKER_03 11:20

No, I don't I jump on that.

SPEAKER_06 11:22

Do you know what? I will I will do the research on that. I'll write myself. Yeah, tomorrow.

SPEAKER_05 11:26

Chuck me your pen. Tomorrow, can we please find out if they have progressed? Update on uh QB. Just a little update. Yeah. Did they progress to stage two? Um I'm gonna introduce the cheese platter today, which is um veggie mite on toast. Not even cheese and veggie mite, it's just veggie mite toast. Um, yes. With cups of tea, which is ideal on a rainy day. I know. Um, I went for a big hour and a half walk, and then Billy's like, hey, are we cheesing? I'm like, yeah, cool. I'm walking over to you. She's like, okay, cool. Five hours later, she's like, um, do you want me to come pick you up? I'm like, yeah, thanks.

SPEAKER_06 12:04

Well, it happened to be raining. It did start raining. Billy wanted to protect me. Yes. Didn't you? All right. Yes, I did. Um, have you possibly in the last month been any deep dives besides Hang on.

SPEAKER_03 12:20

What? Hang on, hang on. No, you've broken the format. You can't break the format. There's a very strict rules about the format.

SPEAKER_06 12:25

The format is Emma.

SPEAKER_03 12:26

No, you the format is intro.

SPEAKER_06 12:28

You've done the intro.

SPEAKER_03 12:29

I have not done the intro.

SPEAKER_06 12:29

You did do. You said No, no, no.

SPEAKER_03 12:31

I started doing the intro like three times.

SPEAKER_05 12:33

You said Billy is gross. Which is a beautiful um a solo apologies.

SPEAKER_06 12:40

Apologies. Um Billy is a gross. Okay, we've been recording now for like 15 minutes, and now Gunther's gonna do the introduction. Off we go.

SPEAKER_05 12:50

That actually felt very much like a primary school age schoolboy as well that loves Billy, but just wanted to get her attention. Billy, it's gross.

SPEAKER_04 12:59

I love you.

SPEAKER_07 12:59

I'm not a woman.

SPEAKER_03 13:05

Hi everyone. It's Dream Jesus again. My name is Gunther. I'm here with the beautiful Billy and the immaculate Emma. How are you guys doing?

SPEAKER_05 13:14

We're good. I'm good. The non-gross Billy and Jim.

SPEAKER_06 13:17

And I'm not feeling beautiful, and I don't think Em's looking that immaculate today, but hey, you are always. Always immaculate.

SPEAKER_05 13:24

I'm not. I'm looking old AF, and that's okay with me. That's what study does.

SPEAKER_06 13:28

You were walking for an hour and a half to get here.

SPEAKER_05 13:30

That's true, but also just uh well, ooh, actually, this leads nicely into one of my deep dives. Excellent. Let's go with this one because I've noticed the old ring clays coming to the face. That's fine. I'm I'm up with that. You don't like that though. But from fat transplants to LED mittens, how the fear of old lady hands mobilized the beauty industry. This is from The Guardian today.

SPEAKER_03 13:56

Old lady hands.

SPEAKER_05 13:58

Yep. After decades of focusing on fake fakers, faces manufacturers, beauticians, and surgeons are offering us younger looking hands. Is this more about money or scientific progress?

SPEAKER_06 14:11

But no, no, do you know why that is? It's because people who and you look at someone like Hectormy, um it's a classic example, or um Kim Kardashian's mom. I don't know what her name is because I don't follow them, but they've had so much, they've had so much work done, and their faces look like seriously look 20 years younger. Like they look amazing. But you can tell their age by their hands.

SPEAKER_07 14:36

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_06 14:37

So this is the thing of going, okay, it used to be the neck, you know, you used to say people used to have facelifts or eye lifts or whatever, and then you'd say, Oh, you can tell how old they are just by looking at their neck, and now they do have things for the things, you know, they pull it all around for the back and they slip down the thing. But you can't hide old.

SPEAKER_03 14:55

So are we basically just working our way down the back?

SPEAKER_06 14:57

We are working our way down the back. And so the next thing will be, you know, feet.

SPEAKER_03 15:01

Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, knees and then feet.

SPEAKER_06 15:03

I agree. So what are they doing with hands, M. So this is what people are doing? Hands get spots and stuff, like liver spots. Is it lit called liver spots? Is that what they're colouring? Yeah. And you know, you look at an older person and they have, you know, old aged lady hands, old male hands. Yeah. So what are they doing in that?

SPEAKER_05 15:21

Well, this this uh particular journalist went to the British College of Aesthetic Medicine in London uh for hand inspection. Um and the the doctor there has uh she's describing this inspected by hand.

SPEAKER_03 15:44

This is where the callback to early fist-related jewelry.

SPEAKER_05 15:50

Yeah. The doctor's inspecting the hand and says your facial skin is very clear, very smooth. The facial when we look at your hands, you've got a bit more of that laxy laxity going on. Laxity. Laxity. So that's the reason why.

SPEAKER_03 16:06

I've been suffering that for getting it.

SPEAKER_06 16:07

Is that when it gets thin? Crepey. Yeah. Oh, crepe, crepe.

SPEAKER_03 16:11

No, no, I just meant being slack.

SPEAKER_05 16:13

Ah, slaxity, yeah. Slaxity.

SPEAKER_06 16:15

Slack. Well, slack, yeah, because it also gets um like loose, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_05 16:21

Yes. So well, do you know what that is called? Um I'm not sure. Not sure if this is the medical term. Oh, old lady hands. Old lady hands? Yep. Yeah. Um the veins and tendons testify to a loss of volume. The extreme end of that is one day we get what people describe as old lady hands. Yep. Significant volume loss with skin fragility overlying it.

SPEAKER_07 16:44

Hmm.

SPEAKER_05 16:45

And that, like you said, Bill, the dissonance between face age and hand age. Yep. But tabloids are driving it with their hand shaming. It's part of it. Yeah. Yes.

SPEAKER_06 16:57

Because they can't face shame anymore. They're gonna have to tell how old you are by your hands.

SPEAKER_05 17:02

It is an uh it is an anti-feminist, yeah, oppressive framework driven.

SPEAKER_03 17:09

So men can have old hands, but women can't be able to do it. Exactly. Exactly.

SPEAKER_05 17:13

Wow. Oh, the Daily Mail asserted hands don't lie. Hands don't lie.

SPEAKER_03 17:19

Well, we we do trust the Daily Mail.

SPEAKER_06 17:22

But you would think with all the amount of all the amount of stuff that people are putting on their skin, because it's been put on by their hands, you would think their hands are looking younger, but you don't put it on the outside, you don't put it on with the outside of your hands. Maybe we need to put it on the palms are looking very young.

SPEAKER_03 17:37

Maybe it's the cream that's the problem in the first place.

SPEAKER_06 17:40

Maybe the yeah, palms look young and your picket look young.

SPEAKER_03 17:43

Oh, so you need to put it on the floor.

SPEAKER_06 17:45

You need to put it on with your back of your hands. With the back of your hands.

SPEAKER_05 17:48

Well, it says that two two years ago, Vogue reported that hand creams are the new status symbol. So now they're super expensive and they're sprouting all the retinol, vitamin C, hydraulic acid, collagen, and you can make one that dissolved in water then. Oh my yes. Oh my gosh. Yeah. So global sales of premium hand care jumped to$724 million. Wow. There are also LED hand masks and mitts. You know those things people put on their face that look like robots?

SPEAKER_06 18:24

You're now putting on your hands.

SPEAKER_05 18:25

And then people are now getting laser pigmentation on sunspots and surgical fat transfer procedures.

SPEAKER_06 18:33

Very, very interestingly, look what I was researching this week. Bias against women. Bias against women and gender bias. That's what I've been looking at this week as well. So for some reason, Emma and I have been on the same.

SPEAKER_05 18:46

Even though we're not on the Instagram algorithm. No, it's a mental. You and I are though. Well, we actually are. And now from the high falluting to my standard. Love it. Artemis Artemis 2 toilet acts up again.

SPEAKER_06 19:01

I love that. And I've been watching the toilet stuff before they went, and then the fact that they had issues with the toilet up with the top.

SPEAKER_03 19:08

There was a toilet problem before they left.

SPEAKER_06 19:09

Yeah, there was a toilet problem before they left, and they thought they'd solved it. Um and then they were talking about the Artemis, the incredible space flight. And now there was there was one, and now there was another one. It's they touched down recently, didn't they? Yesterday, today.

SPEAKER_05 19:25

I would not have gotten on. I would have been like, sorry, I know this is like the highlight of my career, everything I've been working towards, but I'm not getting on that if the crapper doesn't work. Yeah. And the I love just the way that it also phrases it as ax up.

SPEAKER_06 19:39

Yes. So what was it doing? Was it spurting out, or was it just sucking out? God. Because it literally is a is a sucker tube thing. It's this is very Australian. It's a toilet capital.

SPEAKER_03 19:52

No, gravity not so good.

SPEAKER_06 19:53

No, it's a toilet capsule, but it's a well a toilet capsule.

SPEAKER_05 19:58

Yes. Um now more than halfway to the moon. The Artemis II astronauts prepared for their historic lunar fly around to push deeper into space than even the Apollo astronauts. On the downside, their toilet is on the blink again. That's what it actually says. Yeah. It's on the blink. The boggets clock.

SPEAKER_03 20:18

Get out of the space plunger.

SPEAKER_05 20:20

So until the Orion Capsule's bathroom is fixed, mission control has instructed the astronauts to break out more of the backup urine collection bags. I can't even speak. Urine collection bags. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 20:34

But that'd be like being in bed and not being able to go to the toilet, you know, and you have a little, you know, she's like, you know. A catheter.

SPEAKER_03 20:40

The beer can and on road trip.

SPEAKER_06 20:43

What if they just put a catheter in them for the city?

SPEAKER_05 20:44

Listen to this. Engineers suspect ice may be blocking the line that is preventing urine from completely flushing overboard. The toilet is still open for number two business.

SPEAKER_06 20:56

But hang on, do you say it flushes overboard? They don't flush it out of the apparently they do. But this is the worst thing.

SPEAKER_03 21:05

Because otherwise, how do you get the water up there?

SPEAKER_05 21:08

The astronauts have also reported a smell coming from the bike through. No, you can't crack a window.

SPEAKER_01 21:25

Not just in space.

SPEAKER_06 21:29

But you can't crack a window. You can't crack a window.

SPEAKER_01 21:34

Well you could, but you wouldn't have to mudver.

SPEAKER_05 21:41

I can't handle it.

SPEAKER_02 21:43

At this point.

SPEAKER_06 21:46

I did hear that too. I mean it's nowhere for it to go in the. They are ingesting. They're ingesting something really small.

SPEAKER_03 22:06

Like it's a tiny, tiny room, the whole thing. Right?

SPEAKER_06 22:09

So there's not a lot of it's a recycled app and it filters things out, but But that that's not what they tell you at space school. You sign up.

SPEAKER_03 22:17

Here's a question.

SPEAKER_06 22:17

The first thing they do, make you go to the toilet in space school to see if you can handle going toilet in space school. No, Emma, no. What happens with the fart? Because it just hangs. No, you fart. No, fart can't escape. You can't.

SPEAKER_03 22:31

You can't hear farts in space.

SPEAKER_06 22:32

Nobody hears you screaming at spin. Maybe they have a little special, you know, those a fart tube. There's no, you know, those farther. Fart collectors.

SPEAKER_02 22:42

Those famously fart collecting.

SPEAKER_06 22:45

Or are they just a meme? Are they just a pretend theme?

SPEAKER_02 22:50

Like in green fart collectors, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 22:59

Here we go.

SPEAKER_02 23:03

And it's just like just one of those big loads of all around the room.

SPEAKER_06 23:10

I put up to release it.

SPEAKER_02 23:18

Are they gonna release it in the Pacific Ocean?

SPEAKER_06 23:25

I think we need to do some more research. And you know what? This is the perfect project for one of your kids, Em. And that you get them to research about it for us to find out.

SPEAKER_05 23:34

But they're too mature for that, unfortunately. Yes. Okay, my third.

SPEAKER_06 23:38

You need to frame it in the right way.

SPEAKER_05 23:40

I I do. My third and final one. Now, I was talking about my auntie visiting me and I was like, you're so cute. I love you so much. I'm gonna look after you when you get super old. I'll get a geriatric baby bjorn. And then we were all like Billy's about to explode.

SPEAKER_03 24:02

She's like a NASA far balance.

SPEAKER_06 24:13

I came out a little bit of my nose.

unknown 24:18

Thank you.

SPEAKER_05 24:20

I want a geriatric baby beyond so I can just carry her around, look after her. What the hell is she baby beyond?

SPEAKER_06 24:26

You know the little baby carriers that you put on around you and you strap them in and then you put the baby in. Like a baby carrier. Oh, good, good faces like you've been out in the rain. You're crying so much.

unknown 24:38

It's a good thing.

SPEAKER_06 24:39

Yeah, you know, like it's like a baby carrier.

SPEAKER_03 24:41

So the so this is a fascinating um. Trevor Nolan talks about this sort of stuff because apparently, you know, the South African women used to keep keep the babies almost with a the sling, a sling you know, to their chest. And then, of course, that was they were then told that that was a bad parenting move. Yeah. And then later on, everyone invented the you know, the baby bjorn apparently.

SPEAKER_06 25:04

And the beautiful slings that you get now.

SPEAKER_05 25:06

If you want one you're gonna put your uh auntie, my auntie Susie in a geriatric one, because she'll lose density, muscle tone, etc. She'll be lighter. I could put her in just carry around. We could try it with Margie. Margie, I'll carry you, Margie, in a little geriatric baby bjon. But I did look it up. I was like, how heavy? What's the maximum?

SPEAKER_06 25:26

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I looked at it, you've got a bit of strength in you, you'd be able to carry someone.

SPEAKER_05 25:30

Well, I went to Reddit and then I found this in intriguing threads um knowledge, font of all knowledge, yes. Yeah, this intriguing thread. Baby too fat for baby beyond? Question mark, question mark, question mark. Hi all. I have an almost two-month-old chonker that I've been trying to put in a rap sling. Oh, I love those wrap slings, but failing because I'm awful at slings. So I bought a baby beyond mini off Facebook because I used one many years ago with my much older son. I've tried to put Chonka in it today and I can't physically like clip him in. Like he's too fat. Baby too fat. I just thought that was really harsh but also hilarious. Like, Chonka won't fit in it. Poor little Chonka.

SPEAKER_06 26:13

Oh, so was there a solution?

SPEAKER_05 26:15

Um, someone just said try and buy an Ergo, which must be a different one.

SPEAKER_06 26:18

Oh, basically, a non-mini one. And you look at that and think he won't fit in those swings in the park.

SPEAKER_05 26:25

Oh, baby.

SPEAKER_03 26:34

We need more inclusive parts.

SPEAKER_05 26:36

We need more inclusive parts. You put him in a jolly jumper, he brings down the whole train just a door.

SPEAKER_01 26:42

The door frame shreds.

SPEAKER_06 26:45

I fucking loved those jolly jumpers.

SPEAKER_02 26:47

Jolly jumper was a ventin. It was like three hours of just watching telly and doing nothing else. It's like, cool, Jolly Jumper.

SPEAKER_05 26:55

They either love it or hate it. My first loved it, bounce, bounce, bounce. Yeah, second standing at like a potato. So I was like, okay, no, no jolly jumper for you.

SPEAKER_06 27:05

Yeah, I reckon they they say you're not meant to leave me there for more than 15 minutes when Temple's in it. Oh my god, 15 hours wasn't a day. He's still in it when he comes in the bedside. He's got a little play one. That's a sex swing, isn't it?

SPEAKER_07 27:28

She went there, she went!

SPEAKER_04 27:30

I need a glass of water. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_06 27:37

Gunter, what's in the book? In the book.

SPEAKER_03 27:40

What's in the book? Got a few pages.

SPEAKER_05 27:45

But interestingly, you don't feel the page every time.

SPEAKER_03 27:48

Oh no.

SPEAKER_05 27:49

Yeah, why? That he has any thoughts.

SPEAKER_03 27:50

Because then it's it would it would not be for me. I need to write stuff down in a in a shape. So that I can recognise the shape. Except I never do. But I I, you know, at least I can kind of go, oh yeah, I remember it being kind of this shaped and then. Do you really?

SPEAKER_05 28:06

That visual?

SPEAKER_03 28:07

Yeah.

unknown 28:07

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 28:08

I like it.

SPEAKER_03 28:09

And you'll notice there's there's quite a bit of in indenting and and it's a little bit more.

SPEAKER_06 28:14

Yeah, just on a tiny on a tiny tangent while we're here. I don't know if you noticed, but the yellow submarine is now forward. Because it was Oh, he moved it again. I have moved it again.

SPEAKER_03 28:25

Billy's been uh objectifying things.

SPEAKER_06 28:27

And I've moved Snoop. Oh, he's out of his class. He was so uncomfortable. He was real uncomfortable.

SPEAKER_03 28:35

Wow, referencing back to Billy's um what what is it, object personification? Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 28:40

I had a bit of a move around on the weekend. I looked at them all and went, oh yes. And and then I was listening to the episode about the other submarine, and I went, oh shit, I haven't moved that in a while, so it moved before.

SPEAKER_05 28:53

And then all the little Lego Beetles said thank you, Billy.

SPEAKER_06 28:56

They did. See, they're right at the front now. Oh yeah, they are actually saying thank you, Billy.

SPEAKER_05 29:01

They moved. And there's the golden robot.

SPEAKER_06 29:04

And I've changed the other thing I did too, which you would never notice, and I do it regularly, and I don't even think about it, is I rotated the flowers up the top. I moved them so different flowers are facing this way. Oh they all get the sunlight. So they get the sunlight.

SPEAKER_03 29:20

The Lego flowers.

SPEAKER_06 29:21

The Lego flowers. I know I'm weird. Anyway, Gunther! Which little tidbit you.

SPEAKER_03 29:27

Well, I'll just go into one particular section of my book, um, which I got a bit fixated on noses.

SPEAKER_07 29:34

Oh.

SPEAKER_03 29:35

Yeah, and there's probably a word for that. But you know, whatever. Um so has anyone heard of the nasal dip?

SPEAKER_06 29:42

The nasal dip, isn't that this bit of your nose?

SPEAKER_03 29:45

Well, it could be.

SPEAKER_06 29:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 29:47

But that would be a different explanation.

SPEAKER_06 29:49

Could be before the tip. Is it a physical thing or is it a mental thing?

SPEAKER_03 29:53

It's a physical thing, but it's not a shape thing.

SPEAKER_06 29:57

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 29:59

So it turns out that nose the the nose is a representation of your stress level.

SPEAKER_06 30:06

What?

SPEAKER_03 30:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 30:07

So you can use a I thought it was a representation of your drinking level.

SPEAKER_03 30:10

Well, there's that too. Oh yeah, which is also probably a representation of your stress level. But um, but yeah, you can actually use a thermal camera and measure the temperature of people's noses to determine whether they're stressed or not.

SPEAKER_06 30:24

I have a um a temperature measurer. Can we measure a temperature measurer thermometer?

SPEAKER_03 30:33

Thank you, Emma, but I think you'll find it's called thermometer.

SPEAKER_04 30:37

And Gunter has one.

SPEAKER_06 30:38

And how many Gunties? Gunther has one! You've got one of these.

SPEAKER_02 30:42

I absolutely do.

SPEAKER_06 30:43

Okay, so we're gonna test this because Gunther actually has to be a little bit more.

SPEAKER_05 30:46

My nose is often cold. Does that mean I'm stressed?

SPEAKER_06 30:50

It's internal. Okay, Emma, you want to be our test subject?

SPEAKER_03 30:54

So don't look into it.

SPEAKER_06 30:55

Okay. No, it don't have to go in her nose. Or is it the external nose?

SPEAKER_03 31:02

Your nose, your nose is 31.5 degrees.

SPEAKER_05 31:05

Okay, what's mine?

SPEAKER_03 31:06

Close your eyes.

SPEAKER_05 31:07

Your nose knows.

SPEAKER_03 31:09

32.7.

SPEAKER_06 31:11

Oh yeah, definitely Emma's is is definitely no, would you let me do it? Yeah, because you're currently doing your cheek. Alright, we'll put it, we'll put this in the show notes. 33.4.

SPEAKER_03 31:25

Oh, chilled as.

SPEAKER_06 31:27

What do you mean you chilled? Yours is higher than ours.

SPEAKER_03 31:30

Cold nose is called. Cold nose bad.

SPEAKER_06 31:32

Oh. Oh man.

SPEAKER_03 31:33

Cold nose is bad. That's why you walk for an hour and a half this morning.

SPEAKER_05 31:36

Cold nose is bad. Why is cold nose bad? My nose is always cold.

SPEAKER_03 31:41

You drop the the the um the blood flow to the to the nose drops as a as a non-essential thing.

SPEAKER_05 31:47

Nonessential fight and flight kind of things diverting to but also have you seen that my nose is super squeeze? Yeah. That's free. You're you're always cold. Yeah, true. But you're not always stressed. I'm the equivalent of a crab. I'm very cold.

SPEAKER_06 32:02

So I'm more stressed than you're.

SPEAKER_05 32:03

Interesting.

SPEAKER_03 32:04

And so the nasal, if I believe, so the nasal dip refers to when you're stressed that the the nose temperature will dip.

SPEAKER_07 32:10

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_05 32:11

Is that from scientific journal or from Oh.

SPEAKER_06 32:16

Okay. Is there anywhere else that it's you cold? No, I feel like it's not. Um so yeah, but so even if you get rugged up and stuff, your temperature of your nose would stay the same?

SPEAKER_03 32:30

Uh well, it's not a good one. Are you taking does it need to be in the case? So if you rug up and you're stressed, it's still gonna be dropped in temperature. Because the body is cutting off the non-technical. It's not an absolute temperature thing, right? It's not like everyone's nose needs to be at a certain temperature. What we just did was a stupid thing, right? Yeah, yeah. Unless you've got to do it.

SPEAKER_05 32:50

No, excuse me, it was highly scientific.

SPEAKER_03 32:51

Oh well, yes, super scientific, but silly.

SPEAKER_06 32:54

Um I actually want to take a photo of that red dot on your nose for a second, because that's quite cute. Um but yeah, because you don't know what your normal nose temperature is. So you have to have a regular temperature because you're not a baseline temperature, Emma, would be lower than ours because you're generally cold and your hands are normally probably you know 22 degrees.

SPEAKER_05 33:16

I've got ice hands. So that this is actually a public service announcement. Everyone should keep a baseline temperature for their nose and then measure, and if it drops, what do we do?

SPEAKER_03 33:27

Oh, well, um, amputation is always an option.

SPEAKER_05 33:30

Yes, mindfulness of meditation. Meditation, yeah. Yep.

SPEAKER_03 33:33

Yeah, so I went for the extreme.

SPEAKER_05 33:35

You went for the extreme, cut the nose off. What about there's no nose air to drop it? You can't measure it, right? You know what you're doing. You can't measure my stress. You could dip two fresh tampons in warm water and shove them up the nostrils. Good. Instant heat.

SPEAKER_06 33:49

That would instantly make me less stressed. Oh, yeah, yeah. And you would look, yeah, tea bags. Oh, come on.

SPEAKER_01 33:57

Tampons? They're fresh. Tampons better. They're fresh.

SPEAKER_06 34:00

They're very they haven't got used tea in them. Nice smell of tea. Okay. Good with the big thing. Well, you know what you need to make, Em.

SPEAKER_05 34:06

Tampon nose.

SPEAKER_06 34:07

You need to make little wheat bags. Little wheat bags that go up in your nose with a little thing in between them that warms your nose. What about stresses you?

SPEAKER_05 34:17

When your nose is blocked.

SPEAKER_03 34:18

I'm gonna suggest lemongrass.

SPEAKER_05 34:20

I feel really stressed when my nose is blocked. Yes. I forget that I can breathe through my mouth.

SPEAKER_03 34:25

Lemongrass and thyroid.

SPEAKER_05 34:26

So I'm like ah.

SPEAKER_03 34:29

Possibly something methylated.

SPEAKER_06 34:31

Yes, methylated spirits. And you put that inside eucalyptus. Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 34:36

See, we could do we could do a whole range, you know, and Australian natives.

SPEAKER_06 34:39

But the problem is once it's gone.

SPEAKER_03 34:40

Davidson Plum.

SPEAKER_06 34:41

Should this be should this be on the outside of your nose or on the inside of your nose? Inside. But then you have to wash it every single time.

SPEAKER_05 34:47

It's covered in a like a raincoat. It's got a miniature raincoat. Well, that's the alternative as well. Okay. Yep. Condom, heated condom in the colour.

SPEAKER_02 34:59

I was wondering where you're going with that. Chris fuck nose is a is a common term, but not used like that usually.

SPEAKER_06 35:10

Um little thinking there, Gunther.

SPEAKER_05 35:12

That has intrigued me.

SPEAKER_06 35:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 35:14

Okay, alright. Well then we'll move on to more nose-related things.

SPEAKER_06 35:17

I am going to make Emma a little nose warmer for Christmas.

SPEAKER_03 35:22

Are you going to knit it?

SPEAKER_06 35:24

No, but I have two knitters at work who like knitting things. Maybe I'll. But I need to do a casting of Emma's inside of Emma's nose so that whatever I get fits nicely in the nose. Because she's got a very petite nose. You've got very big nose.

SPEAKER_03 35:39

Only 50% of people die in the process of nose casting.

SPEAKER_06 35:42

It would fall out of your nose. Because like Emma's one could fall out of your nose because yours is big. So Emma needs a mini little one. So you need them. Yeah. Okay, I'm gonna think about that. Yes. We'll make you a little one.

SPEAKER_05 35:54

A nose cast. Okay. I'm gonna make you a little bit. Maybe plasticine. I'll shove some plasticine up there for the cast.

SPEAKER_06 35:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 35:59

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 36:01

I'm worried it'll stay there or get lost up in your nasal cavity. And you have to go to the emergency room. And I'll go, what were you doing?

SPEAKER_02 36:09

A cast of my nose from my nose warmer.

SPEAKER_05 36:12

I was trying to combat my stress by increasing the temperature in my nasal cavity.

SPEAKER_06 36:17

That involved. And the doctor would go, yes, oh yes. Good idea. Yes. We'll take 10 of those. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 36:24

We can sell it to the government.

SPEAKER_06 36:26

To another nasal um recent. Nasal related stuff we do. Now I've got a runny nose.

SPEAKER_03 36:33

I know, right? This is it. And and this is what we're about to talk about. Chronic rhinocinutitis.

SPEAKER_05 36:39

Yeah. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 36:40

Have you heard of this?

SPEAKER_05 36:41

I've I've experienced like a lot of rhinitis in my time, which, but not rhinocinutis.

SPEAKER_03 36:49

Or CRS.

SPEAKER_05 36:50

Oh it's got a and I've had sinusitis, which is horrible. Oh, that's horrible. And it's it hurts your whole face. Oh boy when you put your head down.

SPEAKER_06 36:58

Well yeah.

SPEAKER_03 37:00

Yep. So it it you know defined as sort of broadly a constant snot and not being able to sleep, facial pain, loss of smell and taste. Yeah. Right. It's actually really quite nasty condition to have. Um the global estimates, based on 20 countries, um estimates that about 10% of people suffer from this. Twice as many as suffer from asthma.

SPEAKER_06 37:24

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 37:25

So big numbers.

SPEAKER_06 37:26

And is it because it doesn't impact well, it probably does impact your impact your breathing and your sleeping and stuff like that. Oh, it impacts all sorts of things.

SPEAKER_03 37:33

On average, people lose about 20 days of work per year.

SPEAKER_06 37:36

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 37:37

Yeah. Yeah. You're 77% higher than the chance of depression. Oh no, sorry, you're 70%. You have a 77% higher chance of being depressed if you suffer from breathing quality.

SPEAKER_06 37:53

No, the smell can affect people, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_03 37:55

It's a real downer, you know, just generally.

SPEAKER_06 37:57

Yeah, because isn't that a thing that you can do? If you can't smell, it affects your taste and stuff as well. And if you can't taste it, it does, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And if you can't taste, that often gives people depression if they lose their sense of taste or smell.

SPEAKER_03 38:13

Um and the cause isn't well understood. Um the treatment so far has has not been good at all. There is surgery for it, but it only works for about 20% of sufferers.

SPEAKER_00 38:25

Is that very nice?

SPEAKER_03 38:25

Would that be like sorry, it about 20% of sufferers will nothing will work at all. Yeah, there is no treatment, drugs, antihistamines, um, surgery, none of it does anything for them. So, and this is what I love. Yeah, right? The new approach is not transplant.

SPEAKER_05 38:44

Like fecal transplant. Are you serious?

SPEAKER_03 38:47

Seriously.

SPEAKER_05 38:48

Much easier though, can't you?

SPEAKER_03 38:49

Much easier, much cheaper, much simpler.

SPEAKER_06 38:52

We're all blowing our nose now because we're like, hang on, so a snot transplant. So is it in the mucus that's causing the issue?

SPEAKER_03 39:01

Well, it's it's it's it's I think like so many things in the body, it's it's a microbial thing. Yeah, so it's it's literally nose microbe. Yeah, it's literally a you know, a kind of um what do you call it? Uh I've lost my words. Yeah. Um, but you know, like like um flora. Yeah. You know, the gut flora, nose flora.

SPEAKER_06 39:20

Nose flora.

SPEAKER_03 39:21

Right?

SPEAKER_06 39:22

Who would you want to who would you want a um snot transplant as chef? Because they'd have a highly But wouldn't you want it from someone who doesn't so you'd have to find someone who doesn't have a few.

SPEAKER_03 39:33

I'm not sure you're gonna get superpowers from the snot transplant.

SPEAKER_05 39:36

I'm just no, but you might increase your own smell receptors. You could. Perhaps the flora is a positive.

SPEAKER_03 39:43

But you'd want to make it from someone who doesn't want to blow their nose on it. You know, the the guys that do the testers. You want those guys, right? Mm-hmm. It's ambergrist with a hint of you know watermelon.

SPEAKER_05 39:55

Or a professional fart smellers.

SPEAKER_03 39:57

Oh yes, the Hey, I like these smart fellas.

SPEAKER_05 40:02

Remember, we spoke about the person that in Japan that is hired to take the hit for when the wealthy Japanese woman fart. Yes, yes. There must be someone that smells the farts.

SPEAKER_06 40:14

If you smell to delta, the kids gonna be there.

SPEAKER_03 40:17

So there's a third person in the room that just points at him every now and then and goes, that's it. And then he has to put up his hands.

SPEAKER_02 40:23

He goes, sorry, that was me.

SPEAKER_06 40:27

Have they tried a snot transplant?

SPEAKER_03 40:29

Yes.

SPEAKER_06 40:30

And oh I can give you some stats. Oh, fantastic. I love a good stat.

SPEAKER_03 40:34

16 out of 22 in the initial study got much better outcomes.

SPEAKER_06 40:39

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 40:40

Um, it's still early days, of course. Yeah, but you know, it it it's there's very strong evidence that it's a how do you do a snot transplant?

SPEAKER_06 40:50

Do you put your nose up to the other person and just go flick a book up? Like you put your open cavity up to the other. Do a butcher.

SPEAKER_03 40:58

You could pick your friends, you could pick your nose, you could pick your car, pick your friends' nose, but now you might need to be able to pick your friend's nose.

SPEAKER_05 41:03

Yes, yes. Is it a surgical procedure?

SPEAKER_03 41:08

There is a surgical procedure, but it's not very effective.

SPEAKER_05 41:10

Okay, so I mean surgical snot.

SPEAKER_06 41:12

No, no, it's really simple. It's actually really, really simple. T-tip no, no, no, you'll be fine.

SPEAKER_03 41:17

No, no, no, no, no, no. You simply flush the the nasal cavity with saline. Yeah. You know, just salty water.

SPEAKER_06 41:23

And then take that and flush it up your own nose.

SPEAKER_03 41:25

And then take snot from somebody else that's not su suffering from this condition, yeah. And and basically pump it in and and and flush it through. Flush it through for a while. And it basically replaces the flora. Like once off, it's making me feel repeated. Once off has huge effects. Oh wow, one treatment has huge effects.

SPEAKER_05 41:43

That means some fecal transplant could really work. Yeah. People with identity. Fecal transplants absolutely work. They do work, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 41:50

Yeah, so there's almost transplants for almost anything in the body that has some sort of biome aspect to it that are actually way more effective than all the clumsy things we do with surgery and quite bad sinusitis and stuff.

SPEAKER_06 42:05

I offer you my snot.

SPEAKER_07 42:08

But you get it.

SPEAKER_06 42:09

No, no, I don't. I get a tiny bit of hay fever and it but it's from one specific plant. I don't have I don't have a constantly runny nose or anything. What do you think of that? Of what me giving Emma my snot.

SPEAKER_03 42:24

I don't think you'd want her snot. I don't think she's got the right snot.

SPEAKER_06 42:27

Why haven't I got the right stuff? Why?

SPEAKER_03 42:30

Because you have runny nose too.

SPEAKER_06 42:32

I don't. I do not have runny nose off.

SPEAKER_03 42:35

You are off to run the nose off.

SPEAKER_06 42:36

I do not. And it's not, I know I very, very rarely have green snot. That's uh very rarely.

SPEAKER_05 42:42

Well, it's is it matter about the is it matter? Does it matter about the colour of the snot? Now I'm getting too spinning. Yeah, we're getting really into the weeds. I don't know. Okay, yeah, no, now people are gonna be spewing. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 42:53

Last last last year. Last nasal thing.

SPEAKER_06 42:55

Okay, last nasal, last nasal cavity.

SPEAKER_03 42:58

Clownfish snot and anemones.

SPEAKER_06 43:00

Clownfish snot.

SPEAKER_03 43:02

Clownfish snot and anemones.

SPEAKER_05 43:04

And sea anemones. Yeah. Well they live inside anemones. Yes, they do, right? Yes.

SPEAKER_03 43:08

Right? We've seen this in like finding email and stuff, yeah. Right. So sea anemones sting their victims by explosive firing microscopic venomous harpoons from stinging cells called. Yes, I've seen that. Nematocytes.

SPEAKER_06 43:23

Oh. God, sea anemones have got it fucked all around, haven't they? C anemies and anatocytes.

SPEAKER_03 43:30

Nematocytes. Nematocytes. Alright.

SPEAKER_06 43:32

Nemata.

SPEAKER_03 43:32

So once a clownfish and an anemone bond, which they do, right? The fish's snot changes. Right? After about three weeks.

SPEAKER_06 43:43

It's already freaked me out that fish have snot.

SPEAKER_03 43:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 43:46

Actually, do fish have nose.

SPEAKER_03 43:48

How do they blow their nose? Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 43:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 43:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 43:51

Hang on. I have to now look up the fish.

SPEAKER_03 43:54

Fundamental questions.

SPEAKER_06 43:56

Look up clownfish. They have these big red things on the end of the carrots.

SPEAKER_05 44:00

Fish nose.

SPEAKER_06 44:04

How else can they put the red thing on them? Oh, it's sort of got two holes. Yeah, two little holes. But I never know them to have a snot. Okay, but okay, yep.

SPEAKER_03 44:13

I'm gonna tell you they do.

SPEAKER_06 44:14

Keep going.

SPEAKER_03 44:15

Um, and and interestingly, the the the clown fish when once its snot changes, it will change the way the anemone reacts to the fish. Ah so it doesn't spike it. It will not spike it nearly as much. Or nearly as much. I mean it doesn't spike it at all.

SPEAKER_06 44:35

Yeah, but it will change the Because it recognises its smell or its thing.

SPEAKER_03 44:40

And it's specific to the clownfish. Yeah. It's not specific to all clownfish.

SPEAKER_06 44:44

Oh no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_03 44:45

It's specific to the clown, the individual clownfish. So they they're bonded as individuals, not as species.

SPEAKER_06 44:53

Yeah. Really? Wow. Well, do you know also that's an animal fact and a nasal fact. Right. That's a menagerie and a random shit. Ah, see what we're doing.

SPEAKER_05 45:05

That is interesting. But leading off, when I looked up the clown clown nose, did you know that the clownfish also use their olfactory sensors to help it locate a suitable habitat and to find their way home? Nemo could have found his way home if he just knew how to smell. They showed they gave provided clownfish with two streams of water, one of which had um scented water and one was uncentered. And the scented water was basically from leaves of an indicating an island. And they went to the one that smelled like leaves. Well, I've learned two things there.

SPEAKER_06 45:40

One that fish have noses have and two that they actually have snot. Hey, you could get a fish snot transplant. I think I will.

SPEAKER_03 45:49

And then you could put your head in an anemone. We're gonna squeeze clownfish into our noses. We're just two clownfish up each nostril. Right, and and then you'd be able to put your head in an anemone and be fine.

SPEAKER_05 46:01

So chilled out.

SPEAKER_03 46:02

I want to see I want to see the the video for the retreat where you go to promoting fish go up your nose. Also on the plus side, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 46:12

Um Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, you can also Well, babelfish and ears as well as upnoses.

SPEAKER_06 46:18

Exactly. Love it. Oh my god. That's actually really interesting. I wonder, do all animals that have noses have snot? They would, wouldn't they? Because you'd have to have a lining in a few.

SPEAKER_05 46:32

It's a mucus excreting process to get rid of stuff. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 46:37

Otherwise, you get stuff in it.

SPEAKER_05 46:39

They'd have big snot. Have you ever seen a fish sneeze?

SPEAKER_03 46:44

Have they ever seen a fish sneeze? Yeah. I've been watching for ages.

SPEAKER_05 46:52

If you've ever seen a snark.

SPEAKER_03 46:55

That's how they flip out of the bowl and onto the bowl.

SPEAKER_06 46:58

Exactly. You know, those times when you come home and the fish is out of the tank, it's because they've had a big snake. But they don't do it when you're around, they only do it when you're around. Yeah, exactly, right? Yeah. Yeah. Since so we were talking about animals, do you want to know my little animal?

SPEAKER_03 47:14

Sure.

SPEAKER_06 47:15

His name is Ronaldo the Snake. Oh. Cool.

SPEAKER_05 47:18

Sorry, I was just got caught up looking at pig's eyes.

SPEAKER_06 47:21

I know you have. And now that is literally.

SPEAKER_03 47:24

So he's a slightly South American.

SPEAKER_06 47:28

Snakes have noses because no, they don't smell through their noses, they smell through their tongue, don't they?

SPEAKER_07 47:32

They do.

SPEAKER_06 47:33

Yeah. Anyway, Ronaldo the Snake, he was originally thought to be male, but has since given birth to a litter of twelve offspring without mating. It's a virgin birth. Oh, he's he's the virgin of snakes. He's a 14. He's the Joseph of the Mary. Yeah. So, but it's a 14-year-old Brazilian rainbow boa constrictor. Gave birth, like just gave birth to 14 little not 14, 12 little birthday. Oh, he gave birth. But they are saying live or urgent birth known as pathenogenesis.

SPEAKER_03 48:17

Oh, yes.

SPEAKER_06 48:18

Of course you know about it, Winter. Um it's a good idea. I've heard about how many. It's only ever happened three times to this species. But this particular snake has done it twice. And they found out they thought he was male, but he's not, he's actually female. Um, but he still has never mated. They've never had a male in there. And he's still given birth. Yeah. It happens in quite a lot of species. Is it really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 48:42

Yeah. Um, well, you know, it's one of those adaptation things. You kind of go at some point, well, I can just kind of make this and make that and stick them together and and make babies. We've both we've all got the same stuff.

SPEAKER_05 48:54

There has to be some environmental trigger though, I think.

SPEAKER_03 48:58

Yeah, and it's usually that there's population problems and things like that.

SPEAKER_05 49:02

But does it become a a clone? Well, it's it's got the same genetic material, but then you can talk also about encoded um encoded knowledge, I guess. Yes, because the you know the um eels at Budge Bim know genetically to go up to that area in Venuatu, and then they go really, really deep into the ocean and basically turn into eel goo, and that's how they reproduce because the baby eels come out of the eel gooing Venuatu, then it's genetically encoded to come all the way back to Victoria and cross land, go through um, you know, Budge Bim is eel teeth because they come across and climb up, you know, scale cliffs, scale rock spaces and end up.

SPEAKER_06 49:47

This is much more interesting than my verge of earth.

SPEAKER_03 49:50

I've never heard of this. I've never heard of this. Why is this not a TV show?

SPEAKER_05 49:55

I mean, you know, the real eel wives of oh, so the guy, the the amazing, amazing um Braden Saunders is a Gunich Mara man, and he um has his own black swan tours. Uh I think that's what it's called anyway. But he he did work at Budge Bim and spoke about he's uh just uh hyper um hyper uh knowledgeable about the yield. And so the Gunich Mara know, um, and they've got it's uh Budge Bim, it's the oldest aqueduct, it's UNESCO listed. It's one of the oldest um aqueduct systems in the world, and it dispels all the myths that you know in indigenous people were nomadic. Then they're not, it's a it's a actual literal home um base where there's um there's dwellings and it's been um co-collaboratively built with nature, but also intentionally built. So they had this whole system of um tributaries and little pools where the eels would grow up, and then when it's eel running sis time, I don't know why they say running because eels don't have legs, but they get they intentionally get super fat, but then they get silver, and then that's when they know they let them out to sea, they genetically know where to go, they go up to Venuatu, they go condense because they've had to build all this fat to make the trip. Then they go really, really deep, eel goo, pop up, little baby eels come all the way back.

SPEAKER_06 51:24

Fucking hell. Incredible. That is amazing. Yeah, like it's amazing you've got it in your head, but it's also an amazing thing to happen.

SPEAKER_03 51:32

Like and to think that you go, oh, I'm gonna go out there to just turn into something else, but then you know, that's so do you get um caterpillars and the butterflies or sort of if you think about you know the the millions of years we've had to adapt and that sort of stuff, you kind of go, Oh, well there's enough time that you can be weird about stuff, but that's so weird. Like that's very specific.

SPEAKER_05 51:50

I know, so there's this beautiful synchronicity because the Gunichimara people have a um a lot of knowing and and dreaming around it, and then the Vanuatu people have their version too, because it's they see opposite ends of the birth aspect of it and we see the return aspect of it.

SPEAKER_03 52:09

Yeah. Wow.

SPEAKER_05 52:10

You guys need to go to Budge Bim, but it's freaking amazing. I was thinking I need to go to Vanuatu, but yeah. Oh, country. A bit colder down in Archie Roach country. Yeah, that sounds amazing. Yeah, near Port Ferry. Yeah, so it was called Mount Eccles incorrectly because um it was uh yeah, anyway, that was a c colonial name for it, but um and then it was spelt incorrectly by someone, so it's got ended up with this random name, but it's Budge Beam. Budge beam.

SPEAKER_06 52:38

And did is eel something that they eat down there or is eel something that they trade and trade all along through the coolination.

SPEAKER_05 52:46

Historically, it's like a big trade. And it's it's all sync synchr uh synchronous to nature. Yeah, so wattle wattle.

SPEAKER_06 52:56

It's the the um what do they call it? The calendar. Yeah, so they're like, oh, the wattle's coming, the water's time.

SPEAKER_05 53:02

Yeah, yes. And um and then their whole system's like the little kids and the old people like had a specific task of watching them when they're they first rock up to Budgebin, these like eel, and they'd throw rocks at birds that were trying to pick them out, and then they move them on to the next one. And he called it fridge freezer eskey.

SPEAKER_06 53:25

Do we have time for one more little thing?

SPEAKER_03 53:27

We've got as much time as you want.

SPEAKER_06 53:29

Because no, we're we're gonna do another one. We can edit an episode.

SPEAKER_03 53:32

We can make 18 episodes out of this one, I reckon.

SPEAKER_06 53:35

There's probably a couple of episodes. I um was listening to uh uh last episode, not the last episode I put up, but the last episode that we recorded. And um was talking about Jaws and the movie Jaws.

SPEAKER_01 53:50

Oh, and and and chewing.

SPEAKER_06 53:52

Yeah, chewing the canoe, chewing the back of the canoe. Oh, the banana boat, the banana boat, yes, the banana boat, thank you. Yeah, the banana. And so um I don't know whether my phone was the phone was listening to me, but there was something that came up. Um in Texas they have a showing of jaws, like the the movie jaws.

SPEAKER_05 54:10

No, not on banana boats. No, no.

SPEAKER_06 54:13

But they're in water. In in um liner in liner tubes, you know, then in tubes, and you sit in the tube with your feet in the water, and they have divers in the water to come along and you know, yeah, yeah, yeah. So there are divers in the water who grab people's legs and but people go and do it for that ad like it's legal doping, it's that adrenaline thing because you don't know when it's gonna happen. And it's that the brain, wouldn't you? No, but it even though you know the brain can't distinguish between real danger and danger you know is gonna happen to you and manufacture danger.

SPEAKER_03 54:58

Which is why horror movies actually are affected.

SPEAKER_06 55:00

Exactly, that's exactly why that don't you in that space. Yeah. So, you know, they they market this as this adrenaline thing because you don't know at what point they're gonna tug your legs or if they're even gonna do that. But they normally do it in the bits when they're anticipation, yeah, or they just brush past you and stuff. But I'm just thinking, I can imagine Emma just sitting in there the whole time going the whole time. Going with her legs up near her chin, just going, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. But what if someone had the worst fucking nightmare, Matt? Because you and I the same thing about I I don't even like seeing a horror movie and then going sitting on the toilet because I think something's gonna come up and get me. You know, I that is like I can imagine Goody going, yes, that's awesome, let's go, because that's so cool. I just want that jump scare of when's that it's gonna happen. But yeah, it's in Texas, you can go and see it. And the audience, yeah, they have um people divers in the water that do so they don't come up and eat you or anything, but they pull you, pull you down under the water and they brush past you and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_01 56:04

That's actually quite cool.

SPEAKER_05 56:06

It's very cool, isn't it? The odd person, like sometimes you see shark attack, but the the person that is being attacked like punches a shark. So what if that was your reaction? They pull it in into the world exactly because you do.

SPEAKER_03 56:18

The guy with a scuba suit. Yeah, bang in the face.

SPEAKER_06 56:20

Yeah, and they have but they also do but they they have people in there with the bit like a big um fin going through the water as well. So they've got it's it's like an immersive, literally immersive house.

SPEAKER_03 56:38

But it happened when they're gonna be able to do it.

SPEAKER_06 56:40

I need to do you know what I'm gonna do again. I'm gonna try and find more information on it, see if there's any video footage.

SPEAKER_03 56:45

It just feels like it was one of those late night things where there was a bit of booze and roll and a little bit of pause. Oh, do you know what? And someone was going, oh, that'll be hilarious. And then someone wrote that down and went, Yep. Do you know what?

SPEAKER_06 56:56

Um what's the Australian um series that you and I watched? The detec Australian detective series. Oh, Deadlock. Deadlock. And they did that when they had the people in the They did. They watched the movie. What's that? I thought though that wasn't a scary one. No, it wasn't a scary one. Yeah. And they're in they're literally in tire tubes watching floating on the um river watching something.

SPEAKER_05 57:17

But um but yes, speaking of horror horror fire. Horrah horrifying. Yes. Um this and so I I wish I'd done this, but I spoke to Charlotte and she's like, no, it's too freaky.

SPEAKER_06 57:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 57:30

Because I was driving along my street and it was um they don't do um hard rubbish anymore, but they do, you can ring up and you get two a year. Yeah, yeah, you can book them in. So someone had done that. Yeah. And I actually pulled over the car and took a photo of the freaking Okay, show notes, show notes.

SPEAKER_06 57:53

Woohoo! We got show notes. Oh fuck. Why the hell did you not pick that up? I wanted to pick up. And just outside your box. This is, is it made of clay or paper mache? Look at the eyes, zoom into the eyes. Oh fuck. Oh fuck. Okay. Okay, I'm just looking, okay. So this is like a woman sitting in a chair, but it's made out of like paper mache. It's got real socks on, but the face, I swear to god, someone has cut out eyes and the mouth from a photo and a look at like a magazine. Yeah. And it's dooming good time. Look at the eyes.

SPEAKER_03 58:41

Well, why didn't you pick that up? Because that is great. It looks oh no, that's fucking awesome.

SPEAKER_06 58:47

Okay, I'm gonna put this on Insta and I'm just gonna. Oh, that is so good. Because I wanted to cut this and just leave it in your door face together. Oh my god. And can you please, please, please send that to me because I'm gonna put that on now. Oh my god. I've it's like Charlotte, can I do that? That is creepy as fuck.

SPEAKER_05 59:02

Yeah, Charlotte says that is way too creepy, Mike. Why would you do that?

SPEAKER_03 59:05

Oh my god, if you'd left that in our doorstep.

SPEAKER_06 59:10

If if you'd opened the door and found that sitting on our doorstep, would you have gone, that has to be Emma?

SPEAKER_03 59:16

I would have definitely said that's Emma.

SPEAKER_06 59:19

That has to be Emma. I wouldn't have thought that's a next door neighbour or someone hates us. No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_03 59:24

I wouldn't have gone that's Emma. It could be the slightly crazy person up the road or the other slightly crazy person who's further.

SPEAKER_05 59:31

Oh my god. What would you describe the expression as? Because it's just sinister expression. But it's not, it's side-eye. For one, it's side-eye.

SPEAKER_03 59:38

Yeah, I don't know. It's it's it's an interesting experience. And it is that's judgmental without being judgmental.

SPEAKER_06 59:44

It's that smile of someone who knows they're gonna stab you in the back. And it's just yes.

SPEAKER_03 59:50

And you know that smile. Look at it.

SPEAKER_05 59:52

She's moulded to the chair. She is moulded to the chair, and she's got real socks on. Yes!

SPEAKER_03 59:57

Oh what the actual are they real Christmas?

SPEAKER_05 1:00:00

Is it still there, Em? No, because I went back. Because Charlotte said don't and did someone someone had already taken a good. Oh my god, the socks are the scream!

SPEAKER_06 1:00:09

Oh the socks are the picture of the scream. Oh my god. Who left that outside? Which house was that?

SPEAKER_03 1:00:19

Come on, that's gold. You put together to make that. It's like when Banksy did that thing in New York. And he and he did his his he put them on canvases and he sold them for like 15 bucks. And some people went, nah, you know, no good. Walked away from it. And you know, each one of them's worth now a hundred thousand dollars or a million dollars or three. It is fucking awesome.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:39

I was so close. Shall it's like it's too creepy. That reminds me a little bit of right amount of creepy. It reminds me a little bit of the um of Phoebe and friends and her doll that's coming out of the picture, uh coming out of the canvas. Gladys. But it's worse. Gladys, yes. Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:57

It's really sad that I know the name of the dollars.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:00

I went back for it, it was gone. It was gone.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:03

Um you should have trusted your original instinct.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:05

Yeah, and dropped it because I just wanted and I wanted to face it.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:08

I would never be able to have it in my house. But I fucking love it. But I love it.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:14

That'd be pride of place. But Billy would keep moving it around. I couldn't be able to live. It would live in the it would live in the hasn't been in the in the foreground.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:25

No, it would have to live in the um garage until it freaked me out every time. But I went in the garage till I would have to have a bit of a chance. You freaked out when Boba fitts. I seriously could not have that in the house. I could not, could you have that in your house ever? It's a couple of draws down. Yeah. And when I took a photo.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:41

I think that's high up. I haven't. Please, have you sent that to me?

SPEAKER_06 1:01:45

Please, please put that on now, I think, because that is. When I took a photo, I was scared it was going to take it. But it will.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:52

But you do need to see this because it is quite a thing.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:55

No, no. I'll put it up as an image, as the image for the episode, because yeah. Oh, you're looking at it now.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:04

I feel like I need to say it's inclined.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:08

Imagine if you'd walked in with that and gone, this is what we're going to talk about today.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:15

Because Scorcher works from home. I seriously was kind of just the dog.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:20

Up outside his window.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:24

Well, that would be impressive because I'm two stories. But you know.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:29

Oh my god. That is creepy as far. And somebody's obviously made that we're for their art project and gone, nah, mum's gone, nah, I'm not keeping that in the house. Why the hell you didn't pick that up? That is telling me. The cat won't come in anymore. Billy wants it. Yeah. Going to the house and knock on the door and say, Can you make us another? But even more fucked up.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:53

Or tell me how to make them because I like to make someone.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:56

She'd be like, first you've got to kill someone.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:59

The eyes. The eyes are stuck on the outside, but they're stuck on so that it looks like the eyes are behind and that they've got a paper machine mask on their face. It's brilliant. It's awesome. Oh my god. That is a great way to end our episode. I love it.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:25

Let's wrap this reading.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:30

Bye, everyone. Pleasant drink. Pleasant dreams. Once we actually see the picture. We'll catch you on the flip side.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:42

Bye.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:43

Bye.