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Where the Woo Meets the Work
What It's Really Like to Be a Psychic Medium with Emma Jackson
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Episode 29: This week, I sit down with psychic medium and soul guide, Emma Jackson, founder of Soulful Sunshine, to talk about what it’s really like to live and work as a psychic medium. We chat about how Emma realized she was psychic medium, what it feels like in your body, how to strengthen your own psychic abilities, and how to balance being a business owner with being psychic.
Where to Connect With Emma:
Instagram: @SoufulSunshine.Emma
Her Website: https://courses.soulfulsunshine.co
Welcome back to Where the Woo Meets the Work, everyone. Today I'm sitting down with my friend Emma Jackson, founder of Soulful Sunshine, to talk all about what it's really like to live and work as a psychic medium. Emma is a spiritual mentor, business coach, and multidimensional guide who blends ancient wisdom with modern strategy. She's the founder of Soulful Sunshine, where she supports women in aligning with their soul's purpose through human design, astrology, mediumship, and energy healing. Her work is rooted in helping people to return to the truth of who they are and build lives and businesses that feel nourishing, aligned, and deeply supportive of who they're becoming. In this conversation, Emma and I talk all about what it was like when she first realized that she had mediumship abilities, what it's actually like on a day-to-day basis to live with them and to build a spiritual business. I know that you guys are going to love this episode, so let's get into it. Welcome to Where the Woo Meets the Work. I'm your host, Kayla. It's time to get out of your head, into your soul, and do the work that lights you up so you can align with your highest self and actually create the life you've been dreaming about. Welcome to the show, Emma. I'm so excited that you're here. I feel like we've been planning this forever. So I'm so stoked that it's finally happening.
SPEAKER_02Yes, I know. We always trust the divine timing of everything, but it's definitely been floating for a while. I'm really happy to be here.
SPEAKER_01Yes, definitely. And in the intro, I kind of talked about what you did, but I would love to know for someone who's new to your world, how would you describe what you do?
SPEAKER_02I am an energy healer and a psychic medium. And what I specialize in is in helping people reconnect to their intuition, their soul's direction, their purpose, and understanding it, but then really being able to ground it into your human self so you can integrate it throughout your daily life.
SPEAKER_01I feel like most people probably know what being a psychic means, but maybe they don't. So could you explain kind of the difference between psychic, medium, and intuitive? That's a great question.
SPEAKER_02I mean, I am sure you've all heard this. We're all kind of psychic in our own way, definitely all intuitive. It's just all about a muscle to unpack and uncover. I think we all have beautiful, unique gifts. Differentiating the three. Well, medium is really just being a channel between two worlds, two different energies, just really being able to be that voice. For some people, it is the other side, whether it's loved ones that have passed on. That's not necessarily what I specialize in. I specialize in being a medium for your higher self, for your guides, for really just a higher power in general. And then intuitive is something that we all have or intuition. It's just really being able to trust the subtle cues, whether that's something that you're hearing, you're sensing, you're feeling, it's really just being able to trust that muscle and put it into words. And psychic, yeah, psychic is a really beautiful one that I think separates the two a little bit because this is where we start to really tap into kind of a quantum field, right? I think when people hear psychic, they're like, tell me my future. But anything that we do, it's locking in a new reality and your future is never set in stone. So being a psychic is really just being able to tap into the multiple different kinds of potential timelines that are in your future and anchoring it into words that you need to understand now. So yeah, that's how I'd separate them.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's great. I think that was a great definition for people who maybe don't know the difference between all of them. And I noticed that you brought up the quantum field. So some people might not know what that means. Can you just elaborate a little bit more on that?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, for sure. We talk all the time, like everything is energy and it truly is. We are humans and we are kind of living in this 3D world, seem to be kind of shifting into higher dimensions. But basically, the higher you go in the dimensional field, the less that we are focused more on the dense energy, like time, for example. So once we start shifting into kind of the quantum field, is that's where your higher self is. That's where all the different kind of timelines that exist for your life, that's where your energetic body lives and everything. Quantum field is like where people go. If you've ever heard of going into your cash records or going into those types of energies. So it's basically just like I always say you're traveling to a different dimension, a different planet to get some insight.
SPEAKER_01So with the quantum field, is it like a physical place you can go, or is it more of a different consciousness?
SPEAKER_02More of a consciousness. I think because we're humans, you kind of need to be able to ground it and understand it. So anyone that you speak to, I'm sure they have a different experience. Some people they're visualizing going to like an actual place, and that might be able to ground to the experience itself. But it's definitely just a consciousness that you're kind of toughing into that exists all at the same time.
SPEAKER_01I remember when I was first learning about the quantum field, and that was the hardest part for me to wrap my mind around because I thought, like, oh, I'm just going to be physically teleported somewhere eventually. And it's like, no, not really. No, thank God, right?
SPEAKER_02It can't, right? Our our physical human bodies are too dense. And I think that's been like the biggest beautiful part of leaning more into that, not just as understanding for myself as a human, but like my job and everything that I do. I think it opens up so much for you to understand, like, okay, I'm a human and I have a body that I need to take care of, but I'm also made of energy and I'm also a soul. And I think it's really beautiful when you can understand the different parts of yourself and how, you know, the human body is here on Earth, but like the other parts of you are kind of in different energies consciousness. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Definitely. And it kind of made me think about how with Earth transitioning into 5D reality. Yeah. When I first learned about that too, I thought, oh my gosh, what's gonna happen to the people who don't go to the 5D? Are they just going to actually disappear? But again, it's not like that. So just hard for the human brain to wrap itself around sometimes.
SPEAKER_02It is, yeah. I always think of it as like, I mean, we're all living in different realities, right? Like my reality is different than your reality, and vice versa. And it really just reaches a point where more of a collective is kind of hitting that certain point, and then eventually the world is like, okay, we can operate on this level. So it is hard to wrap the brain around. A lot of what I do, people like ask me, and I try to put it into words, and I'm like, this is probably the hardest part. I speak energy, I don't speak, I don't speak words.
SPEAKER_01Totally. Yeah. Well, I love chatting about that, but I do want to bring it back to more psychic medium questions for you. Yeah. When did you first realize that you had psychic or mediumship abilities?
SPEAKER_02I mean, I grew up in a household that was always really in tune with the other side in a way. I lost my brother at a really young age. And so we were always talking with him and celebrating him. And so I was always just really connected to that other part of the world in a way. And I grew up going to church. So I was really in that background. So it was already always part of my life that, like, okay, there's more than just being human, like something else exists outside of me. And I was just growing up very, always sensitive, always just very empathic. And it really wasn't until my 20s that I was able to put an understanding to it in a way. So looking back and understanding all parts of my childhood and what I dealt with and what I felt, I'm like, oh, if only she knew. But it really wasn't until my 20s when I started getting more into mindset work and getting in touch with my relationship with spirituality and kind of shifting away from religion in that way and really my tarot cards when they came into my life and trusting that. So it was just an ongoing thing. But yeah, didn't really accept it till my 20s.
SPEAKER_01Did your family accept it and your friends, or was anyone not accepting?
SPEAKER_02I feel like everyone was accepting in their own way. I have always had a really good balance in my life. Like as much as I am considered I'm a psychic medium and I'm a very, very spiritual human. I'm also like a very grounded, I can have a conversation with anyone, even someone that doesn't even understand this or relate to it in any way. I think fully was very blessed with not having anyone around me that, you know, looked down on it or had anything negative to say. However, I also was very protective of that and excluded myself from anyone that ever went that way. So yeah, I mean, I can think of a few relationships in terms of friendships that I had where I could just tell it wasn't something that they would ever be able to. I don't need people to understand, but accept is definitely a huge part of it. So thankfully, my mom is very into this. She's like my number one supporter. She wants to hear about everything that I'm doing and loves it so much. My dad has absolutely no idea what I do, doesn't really care to understand, don't think that he could, but he's also just so proud of me doing what I what I'm here to do. So he understands it in the best way that he can.
SPEAKER_01That's so sweet that you had such a good experience with people and that you didn't have anyone just be like, what are you doing, girl?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, very grateful for that. Because looking back, I, you know, I I dealt with so much like people-pleasing energy, and I definitely would have taken that on as like an identity. And who knows if I would have been like, What am I doing? This is crazy. So very grateful for that.
SPEAKER_01And you have a partner too, right? Yeah, I do. Were you out of the spiritual closet when you and your partner met? Like, have they always known that you are um psychic medium?
SPEAKER_02Yeah. I met my partner when I was 16 and we didn't reconnect again until I was 26. So he I guess he knew like maybe Emma in that way. But when we reconnected and actually started dating again when I was 26, I was fully, yeah, fully into my psychic medium role, fully into this as a business. He is, I've been so blessed with someone who, again, he's a great representation of he could not explain to anyone what I do, but I can, I can like talk to him in like the highest, the highest level of explanation of what I'm going through. And he can just sit there and and and hold space for me in that way. And, you know, over the years, we're going on to three years now. Every year I kind of open it up and get him to be a bit more woo-woo with me. And so it's fun to just watch him progress in his own way and and just he lets me stay in my lane, which is nice.
SPEAKER_01I love that. That's awesome. So important to have supportive partners. So, with being a psychic medium, what does that actually feel like in your body? Like, do you have downloads that come through, or how do you experience the information that comes through?
SPEAKER_02I think for everyone, it's so important to become familiar with, you know, all the different clears. And in a way, for so long I thought, you know, I'm not someone that necessarily hears or like sees. And that's what for me was so interesting because I'm it was just a knowing. I really resonate with like I just knew. And so a lot of it for me was just trusting, just trusting what I was feeling, trusting what I was knowing. And eventually over the years, my other clears kind of came more on and I could start to see visuals and I could start to hear things. And so I think that it it comes in a way of a muscle that you understand. I can understand when my ear ego is talking, I can understand when my fear is talking, I can understand when I have like a download coming through. And so that's something that I work with a lot with my clients. Is I think everyone needs to be able to understand what part of me is speaking, because that's a huge part of it. So as a psychic medium, when I'm in sessions with clients, I'm completely opening up my field to all of my senses and just, oh, I'm feeling this. It's for you. I'm I'm hearing this, it's meant for you. And then when I'm out in public, a little bit not in sessions, I'm more closed off to that energy, but I still get those intuitive pings. So it's different in every situation.
SPEAKER_01Is there a way that you developed this knowing or strengthened this knowing at all?
SPEAKER_02I think that listening to there's a space, a part that you get to in your journey where you start to recognize that maybe your mind is not your friend, but it's a really important journey to go on to befriend your mind. And I got really, really um comfortable with every single day talking to my ego, talking to my fears, understanding what part of my body do they live in, what do they sound like, what do they feel like? So that was a part of me that was so important that I also teach people as well. Like, if you just kind of want to put yourself into a beautiful, kind of neutral state and just like say, Hey, ego, how are you doing today? You can almost like feel it. For some people, it's like right in their brain, other people, it's in their heart. And just like you would a new friend coming into your life, getting to know them, getting to understand what they need. And then I would do the same for like my fear, my higher self, my intuition. So it's kind of like the practice of, okay, these are parts of me I should maybe try to continuously understand.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's great advice. Were there any books or courses or anything that you did to help your psychic abilities?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I've always had a mentor in my life. Over the last five years, I've always had some type of mentor, if not several for different phases of my life. I think that having someone in your life that holds such incredible gifts and values that you aspire to have is so beautiful because they can almost guide you to be able to have that for yourself. Books I've read so many. I think that, you know, the journey of the soul, the Michael Newton books, those ones really allowed me to better understand the afterlife and like that kind of energy itself. When I first started my spiritual journey, Gabrielle Bernstein was, she was it for me. And that was like the first one that I really leaned into. So I always tell people, I'm like, my favorite thing is going into like a thrift store and just like looking at all the books and just being like, okay, which one wants to come home with me? Like, what do you want to share with me? I think no matter if it's a book, if it's a course, if it's a mentor, like everyone's so different in terms of how they learn and what they need at that time. And I think we're also always in such different seasons and chapters in our life. Some people would be able to read something and have so much remembrance and just be like, wow, I needed that reassurance. I really, really needed to like remember that I have this ability as well. Other people are like, nope, my ego needs to like be shown. I need to prove that I can do this. So it's great to have maybe a more hands-on course or a mentor in that way. So I think just getting familiar with yourself and even going back to like school, like, how did you learn best, right? Did you learn best reading? Was it like more hands-on? Because I look back to my actual schooling and I'm like, wow, it still kind of transfers, right?
SPEAKER_01I agree so much. I love the idea of having a mentor. I think that never fails. Also, I totally do the same thing of going to the thrift store and seeing which book pops up. And it's so funny because it's like, wow, that's exactly what I needed in that moment. It's the badass. And you're practicing your intuition muscle. So it's great. Exactly. So, kind of related to how you experience information coming through. How do you discern between your intuition or fear or true guidance? How do you know what you're receiving is actually what you should be and that you should trust it versus just like your imagination going crazy?
SPEAKER_02I think this comes back to like what I was saying earlier. We're so scared of our fear as we should be, right? It's just encoded with so much fear and survival mode in the energies themselves, whether it's thoughts that we're having, whether it's an experience that we're avoiding, whether it's a future outcome that we're just crossing our fingers doesn't happen. We give it so much power inside of us. And I think a huge part of distinguishing between like fear, intuition, guidance, again, how does it feel in your body? It's gonna feel different for everyone, but I can reassure you that your intuition and guidance are never gonna feel really loud. They're never gonna feel urgent. It's not gonna be like, oh my gosh, I have to act now or else, right? If I don't do this, if I don't say this, if I don't, then something's gonna happen. Like that, that's not it at all. Fear has this urgency energy. It wants you to feel like, oh my gosh, now or never kind of energy itself. And so if we can understand how it's feeling in our body, like I feel anxious, I feel irritable, I kind of feel on edge, probably not your intuition. I've noticed that whenever you're in a season where you're more still, where you're more regulated, where you're just kind of like quietly going within, you're actually gonna receive a lot more downloads, right? Your intuition doesn't want to fight with your fear to speak to you. It wants to wait until your fear is kind of taken the back seat so it can come in and speak to you. So when you have intuitive hits, when your intuition's trying to speak to you, whether it's your higher self, it's gonna feel like annoying. And that's almost harder because it's easier to ignore these little tiny pings. And it's sometimes a lot easier to listen to those loud messages. So I think that's a big, big part of it is a lot of us are learning how to slow down and not be so urgent and take action and just sit with everything. So that's like one I think the the big differences with that.
SPEAKER_01You summed that up perfectly. I agree with everything you just said.
SPEAKER_02That makes sense. Yeah, it's an interesting and it sounds so I shouldn't say it sounds so easy because I know it's not easy, but I think that so much in life can be so much easier when you can understand what fear looks like, sounds like, feels like. And not just for your internal world, but even what we're going through now in your external world, we can make so many decisions that are so unaligned based off of fear, based off of urgency. In a world where, especially if you're listening to this podcast, you want to be making more aligned decisions, right? You want to be making decisions that are for your best and highest good, for the highest good of everyone. And usually that doesn't come from fear. It comes from, oh, this is my knowing, this is my truth, this is what feels good, right? I think that's it's a it's a really important thing to lean into. Don't be scared of your fear, even though that sounds counter. Yes.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Speaking of fear, I feel like a lot of people, when they hear psychic or medium, they kind of get scared because they think that that's opening the door to bad things, demonic things, things like that. What would you say to someone who's scared to either work with a psychic medium or maybe explore their own psychic gifts because of that type of fear?
SPEAKER_02You know, discernment is a very beautiful word that I have learned so deeply in my own practice. And for everyone, as much as I'd love to believe that we are living in this world where everyone has the most best intentions out there, I think it's so important for everyone to question everything at all times. I even say to my clients, no matter what I'm telling you, I hope that you're sitting with it and making the decision for yourself, right? So often we're so used to giving our power away. So separating those into two categories, one of reaching for outside guidance and more so in yourself, starting with outside guidance. I mean, I think that whenever you're feeling called to someone, that is usually their higher self and your higher self kind of pulling each other into the atmosphere. I think back to the beginning of my journey when I was working with mediums and psychic mediums before I even knew that I was one that I claimed it. And it was just this pulling. It was just this knowing that I want them to hold space for me. If you're feeling any type of urgency, like I need to book this session because then I will understand. I need to book this session. Don't allow yourself to pull, be pulled towards people because you think they're gonna figure everything out for you, right? That's not what it is. It's more so this is a container, this is a person that is gonna be a mirror for me and I trust them. I feel safe, right? I'm not coming in, yeah, you're probably gonna have nerves. You're probably gonna be like, oh my gosh, what's gonna happen? But immediately, if you're with the right person, right psychic medium for you, you're gonna feel an overwhelming sense of peace. You're gonna be able to trust that their intentions are good and your intentions are good. Coming into your own abilities as a psychic medium and wanting to strengthen that, just like everything in life, there's good and there's bad, and discernment is so important. There's not a day that goes by, if not several times a day, that I'm constantly protecting my energy. Or if I feel a little awful, you know, shake it out or cast a protection bubble. I think just as much as we get used to like washing our hands as humans, we should wash our energetic energy. So I think that just getting used to, okay, I'm about to enter something new, I'm about to enter a whole new world that is energy. And while I can't really see it, maybe I can feel it. And so if you're feeling like you need to go take a shower and pretend that golden light is coming off of you, absolutely do that in that way. What I will say is that the energy of love, the energy of light and unity, it's so strong. And each human is so protected. You're so protected by your higher self, by your guides, by everything and what you believe is your reality. So if you believe that you are opening yourself up to a world that is just full of so much love and light. Protectiveness, I promise you that will be the case. But if you have any ounce of you that thinks, uh-oh, if I open the door, what's gonna be here? Is it gonna want something bad? Like if you have any part of you that thinks that, unfortunately, in the energetic world, so to speak, you are kind of leaving a little bit open. And I'm not saying this to cause fear. I'm just saying be discerning going into it, right? So yeah, just as you're you're good with mindset work, I would say that going forward.
SPEAKER_01I love how you said that seeing a psychic medium is a container where they mirror back to you what you're supposed to know and see. I think that's really great because I agree that so many people are looking to outsource their own intuition, their own thinking, and they want all of the answers from someone else, whether it's a psychic medium, a mentor, a book, a course, they're just looking for that thing that's going to answer everything for them when really it's all inside of yourself.
SPEAKER_02I want to get that tattooed on my forehead and just that's it, right? The people that I work with and the space that I try to bring into this world at the end of the day, I want you to be your own guru. I want you to not feel like you need anyone else. And don't get me wrong, like I think it's so important to have people, especially in this world. I love that I always have a mentor because I don't feel like alone. And if I'm having a little off day where I'm like, okay, I'm feeling a little crazy right now, like ground me. How amazing that I have that support, right? But I have this one mentor, and every time I come in and I'm like asking a question that is like really only I can answer, she just responds back with a question that I have to ask myself. And that's something that I think is so important in this world is again, we give away so much of our power. And while I agree there's so many psychic mediums that you can go to and you're gonna walk away with so much clarity, they didn't necessarily give it to you as much as they just reconnected to you, right? Not everyone, I understand, maybe yet, has strengthened their ability to hear their intuition and talk to their higher self. But no matter what call I'm in, it's not new information that I'm giving, right? It's just, okay, I now have permission to trust that. I now have permission to act on that. If anything, it's kind of like permission in a way.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I also love how you talked about that whatever you believe to be true is what's going to be true. I completely agree with that. And I honestly think that most of our reality is our own consciousness that we're manifesting all the time. So I think if you're believing that, oh, I don't know, there's gonna be some weird shit that happens if I open myself up, it's like, well, then maybe there will be, because you're kind of bringing that to life. Like it's already living inside your mind, and now you're making it true in your external reality. So I really like that you brought that up because I do think a lot of these types of things are a self-fulfilling prophecy.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I think that's important too, right? Like, what is imagination? It comes from the mind, right? So much of our imagination is so important in even just future, you know, whenever we're visualizing our future, our higher self, I think we need imagination. We need to be able to use, you know, the human part of us in our brain to be able to make it make sense. But at the same time, it's like going into the fear. If you're mentally thinking, like, oh no, it could look this way. It's like, okay, then there's just a deeper part of you. Like, where's that fear coming from? What are you really scared of? I think a lot of this world that has fears of I don't want to open myself up to this because of X, Y, Z. I think it's really okay, great. Then maybe we start with shadow work. Maybe we just start with recognizing what are you really scared of about this world? What are you scared of figuring out? What are you scared of your own power, right?
SPEAKER_01Totally. But I am curious, have you had any creepy shit happen to you? Or maybe receive a message or a download that you didn't want?
SPEAKER_02I wouldn't say didn't want, or you know, I am like several times a day, multiple times a day. I'm like an energy protection girly. Even if I feel something enter my oar, I'm immediately like, nope, not allowed, not it. I've got my house coated. I've got my like, I'm just so I go out and my car, like my car is coded. Like everything I do is just so intentional. And that's not fear-based. That's not me thinking, I'm scared of the world, so I need to be in this bubble. It's like, I know that intentions are everything. So I think at the beginning of my work, I definitely opening myself up to that world. I could quickly see how, okay, if you're not really intentional about what you're connecting with, that kind of energy, it can maybe cause some gaps. When I was getting into mediumship, I would be out in public, like I'd be in like a yoga class. And I just have like the girl besides me, grandma coming in, like wanting to talk to her. And I just be like, I am in yoga. Like, like this is the last thing I want to do. So I think for me, it's less about like the creepy shit and more um, okay, there's really this discernment that I'm eating of like, I'm a human being going about my life. I don't want to pull this girl after a yoga class and sound like that creepy girl that's just like, hey, so I was chatting with your grandma. So I think that's maybe the the most that I've allowed myself to experience in that way in terms of unwanted.
SPEAKER_01Wow, that is so interesting. Yeah. I can't imagine just be like going about my life in the grocery store, doing yoga, whatever. And then a spirit is like, hey, can you like relay this message to my granddaughter? That is so nuts. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02It is, it's it's like, and like I said, I don't I don't communicate as much with those that have passed over, but it's definitely it comes in here and there. And it's always a really gentle energy. I always believe that if anyone's coming through, then the person that they're coming through for is ready to hear from them. And so I do hold that tight, but I also have such boundaries as like I'm like a human, like I just don't want to be that girl that's grabbing someone up just the other. I was like fighting with her grandma the whole time. I'm like, I don't want to do this. She's like, Can you just go? I'm like, I don't. So I think it's it's interesting. It's definitely a lot of protection in that way, and I guess just like boundaries.
SPEAKER_01Okay, I have a question that's gonna maybe go a little off the rails here. When it comes to, I know you don't speak a ton to spirits on the other side, but I was wondering I assume you believe in reincarnation, is that right? Yeah. Okay, cool. I thought so. So if we believe in reincarnation, but we're able to speak to spirits on the other side after they pass, is there like a window of time that we can talk to them before they get reincarnated into a new body here on Earth?
SPEAKER_02So this is where the quantum field comes in, where it's hard to bring it into reality because you can have, let's say, your grandmother who passed away and is on the soul side reincarnate into another life and still be there because it's not the same. Like the soul can be split, right? It's a two living in two different timelines in a way. And even if they did incarnate at the same time that you're living, it's probably like probably not the same reality, right? So this is where it gets hard to explain, but it's it's basically understanding that like what might feel like 20 years for you could feel like 20 seconds for them, kind of energy, right? It's very time gets a little construed when we go into that energy. So does that answer your question?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, definitely. No, I think that helps. I think it's kind of like all time is happening all at the same time, all at one time, you know, but we don't perceive it that way here on earth, so that's why it's confusing. Yeah. But sometimes I like to think of it too as like a tree, like your soul is like a tree, and then each lifetime you have is a little branch off of the tree. So you're still the tree, same soul, but you might be having like tons of different lifetimes that are all happening at the same time, even past lives, you know?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I love that analogy. I'm gonna use that.
SPEAKER_01Yay. Well, thank you for answering that because I know that was kind of a weird question.
SPEAKER_02No, I love that question. It makes sense, right? Again, that's where the human brain's like, can you make sense of this?
SPEAKER_01So, with your journey, have you ever doubted your psychic or medium gifts? And if so, how did you get through that?
SPEAKER_02Oh my gosh, yes, of course. I can remember a lot of my beginning sessions with clients where I would hear something or know something or feel something so deeply, but it was almost like I knew that if I said it and it wasn't true, what would that like? Oh no, what where how what would they think? Right. It wasn't until time and time again where I remember there were several sessions where there would just be this one message, this one vision, whatever it was, that just really wanted to be said. But because it just felt so off field, I wouldn't say it. And then later down the line, working with them, they would then say it to me, or it would come up in another way. And I was like, Oh, I wish and said this three months ago. Like that would have been so cool. So there's a lot that kind of happened like that for me, where I think I, my human Emma, my ego a bit kind of needed that reminder, like, okay, this keeps happening. And like we've had multiple situations to just be like, like, how amazing to tell somebody something. And then it happens a couple months later. I think I've learned going forward when I'm in a session, I'm so intentional with my energy and our connection. And there's nothing about my life or anything that's like, I'm so there for them. I'm so tuned in that the more offside it is, the more important it is for me to say. The more that I just trust whatever comes through, it really is just like trusting. And I think that's what it comes down to, right? It's trust. You know, you have to trust that you know what you're capable of. You trust your abilities, you trust your gifts, you trust the message that's coming through. I trust what I'm feeling. Like, I think that's what it comes down to is just like so much trust.
SPEAKER_01It sounds like your self-trust is kind of a muscle that you were building over time and you just needed to see some evidence that it was true. And when you did, then you were like, oh, duh. Okay, now I can be more vocal about this.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. I think of that time and I'm like, wow, like this is literally what you're here to do, right? I don't want to keep kicking myself and having these things experienced time and time again. I think back and I'm like, well, that like totally understand why I needed that proof in a way. And I think that proof is such like a word that comes up a lot in this type of work because it is just like things that are floating that you're just like, where's the proof, right? Where's the proof? But often you don't get the proof until it arrives. So then it's like, well, it's already in your life. Yeah, it's really interesting.
SPEAKER_01That's so true. What's the coolest experience you've had as a psychic medium?
SPEAKER_02Recently, I saw one of my Reiki masters who had tuned me in Reiki. I was just watching her Instagram story one day, and there's a photo of her. And as soon as I saw the photo, I was like, Oh, she's pregnant. Like, just knew she was pregnant. And then I saw the energy in the photo, and that's where I like sat with it. And I was just like, Am I really gonna be that girl that's messaging someone and telling them that, like, does she even know? Does she want to know this? Like, what if it's not true? I ended up doing it and I said, Hey, I don't know, to take this for when it resonates. You're just giving there's a spirit baby in your aura. I could see it, I could feel it. And she was like, Oh my god, I just took a pregnancy test this morning. I just found out. I was like, wow, that's insane. That's just another example of just trusting the weird little that's just like I'm through.
SPEAKER_01That is so cool. I want stuff like that to happen to me.
SPEAKER_02I know. I was even like, I like cushioned it, right? I was like, take this as it resonates. I don't know.
SPEAKER_01And then yeah. Oh my gosh, I love that. Do you have friends then that come to you for advice more often because they're like, oh, Emma, she's connected, she knows. Do you have people like that who are coming to you more?
SPEAKER_02Yes and no. I mean, I am so blessed with the people in my life. I have some people who, you know, aren't spiritual at all. And it's nice to just shut that part off of me sometimes. As much as I try to shut it off, there's still moments where I'm like, okay, girl, let me give you a little pep talk from your higher self. But then I have other people. I have so many friends that are also clients, and I find that so beautiful that, you know, we can have that line and boundary in a way where we can just like have a girl's night and talk about things. And I don't need to be on, but I don't need to be off as well. And I can just pinpoint things and say, ah, that's a big one. Like, let's talk about it in the next session and go back to like that kind of stuff. So I think that's a big one for me. Like, I can feel when I'm kind of like, oh, I got some extra energy to like share. Like, let me tap into this for you. Then I can also feel when I'm like, yeah, completely offline right now. Like, come back another time. So that's definitely it's a balance.
SPEAKER_01Awesome. Okay. Well, speaking of balance, that actually leads right into a question I had for you. So that's perfect. How do you balance your intuitive downloads with your real world responsibilities? Since I know you have your own business. So, how do you balance that with deadlines and everything?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, the masculine feminine balance is a big one that I think just deepens for me more and more. I, over the last few years, have just been so intentional. And if anyone knows human design, like I'm a projector. So I've been spending so many years deconditioning from what I've been taught, the hustle culture and, you know, the nine to five Monday to Friday. Throughout the years, there's been so many changes that I've made that are so against the status quo, but it is so necessary for my energy. And, you know, I work with my own cycle as a woman. I work with the cycle of the moon. I work with the collective astrology, I work with my personal transits. Like, there's so much that I work with that's very cyclical in terms of what's happening in working with that energy. But I also understand that like I'm a human, I got bills to pay, like, I got stuff to do. So I really try to find the balance in it. For me, it works best when I start with the feminine, when I can really create the structure in a feminine way. So I'm honoring my cycle, I'm noting what the energy feels like on certain days. Anytime I launch something or I have a decision to pick a date, I'm not just picking a random date. I'm absolutely using that energy. So for me, I kind of go backwards by letting my feminine create the container. And then once the container is created, I can let my masculine kind of come in and work and kind of do more of that action hustle kind of energy. That's how I keep it balanced.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that totally makes sense. So on a more day-to-day basis, how do you structure your days or your weeks so that it can support your intuition and your productivity?
SPEAKER_02I have a monthly calendar in front of me. I have a weekly calendar and I have a daily. So I am that girly who like I have everything. Every single day I know what sign the moon is in. Like I'm very connected in that kind of way. And so at the beginning of every month, I will kind of put what I know. So I'll put what I know of like what cycle I'll be in that month. I'll put the moon, I'll put everything there. And then when I bring in the practical things, well, we've got this as a human, as a business owner. I need to have this done by this date. I need to have that done by that date. Then I can kind of bring it in and be like, okay, then you'll go here and you'll go there. I'm such a flow person. Like I work fast without structure. Like, I need space, I need flow. So this allows me to kind of like anchor in the things that matter most. For example, I have like on my calendar, I'm gonna record this on that day. I'm gonna reach out to the person on that day. So I kind of just like look at it as okay, past Elma knew what she was talking about. So we're gonna honor it, we're gonna do that. But then it's like the rest of my day is kind of free flow. I don't work well with time blocking and stuff like that. I'm very much like, here's your main things for the day, get that done. And the rest you can really intuitively flow.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I work the same way. So I feel that. I love it. It's like I want to be that girl who does the time blocking, and I try, but I can only do it for like a week. And then I'm like, there it went.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but that's exactly it, right? Like you have to, you have to do what works for you. There's so many parts of me that would love to be that girly. I've tried several times. I've bought several different apps, different notebooks. Like I've tried and I've tried and I've tried. And I think you just reach this point where you're just like, well, crap, am I trying to fit into a box that's not made for me and my energy? And I think it's normal to feel guilt or shame or like, what's wrong with me? Why can't I do this? Right. But this is where I think the world is leaning to, where it's just like, hmm, okay, maybe there's a reason that doesn't work with my energy. Let's like dig into that. Let's explore that, right? How amazing that we understand that we all work differently.
SPEAKER_01Cause we do. Yeah, we don't need to fit into the same box. No at all. So you kind of already touched on this, but I was just wondering if you had any other ways that you protect your energy while still showing up consistently for your business and for your clients.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I love a good quiet morning. I think it's really important for me to pour into me before I pour into the world. I am always, you know, protecting my energy, whether I'm like doing a little meditation and pretending there's a bubble around me, whether I want to, like I said, you could take an energetic shower, have a mantra that I say. There's little things like that. I think for me, I can feel when there's something off. I can feel when I've kind of reached my energetic capacity in some way. I think that a lot of us think that because we said we were gonna do something on this day or at this time, then we have to do it. But what I've learned so much is that a lot of the things and the responsibilities and the pressure that we put on ourselves were able to move. If, for example, if I come out of a client session and I just feel so completely overwhelmed, but I had on my schedule that I was gonna do this one thing, I kind of take a second and I'm just like, do I have the capacity to do that? Like there's something in my energy that's just not working for that. And so maybe I'll just sit there and I'll do like a little energy cleanse and I'll see how I do after that. So I think my biggest piece of advice is like constantly check in and be okay to switch things around. Don't do something just because you said you were gonna do it, but you know that you don't have the capacity or the energy and you're just going in a little bit too vulnerable to lead to burnout, to lead to exhaustion, to lead to vulnerability in that kind of way. Your energy is constantly shifting, like every minute. So I think it's important to check in with it.
SPEAKER_01Great advice for anyone, even if they're not a business owner or not a psychic medium.
SPEAKER_02Exactly. I'll follow that. I think it's important too. It's like whether you are a morning person or an evening person, I think like always taking time to yourself. We can get so caught up in autopilot where next thing you know, it's like the end of the day, and you're just like, wait, what did what did I do today? Did I breathe? Like, I don't know. And I think so important to give yourself, like, we kind of override our body a lot. Our body's constantly speaking to us, and in turn, your intuition is constantly speaking to you, usually through your body. So I think we need to create a lot more pauses throughout our day that we've kind of overridden as a society.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Well, I just have a couple more questions for you as we wrap up. So, last psychic-related question. Yeah. What do you think is one of or some of the biggest misconceptions that people have about psychics or medians? Like what do they have in mind? Reproject your future.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah. Reproject your future. I know we talked about that. Man, there's so many. I think my biggest thing I want people to take away from is psychic medium is a new energy for you if you've never seen one or you wouldn't consider yourself one, or you maybe even have resistance towards one. You know, it's really the right aligned psychic medium, is just someone that's very attuned and aligned to energy and really able to be a bridge, be a bridge to the unknown, a bridge to your higher self, a bridge to people on the other side, whatever it is that they specialize in. No one can ever predict your future. I can I can't even predict my own future. Like it's not about that. Every decision that you make, and I know I mentioned this, but every decision that you make is constantly shifting your future. No timeline is ever locked into point. Whenever I do sessions, you know, and I want to speak about the future, I'm really just talking about more so things that are like destined, or specifically, I always tune into people's higher timelines. So if I'm ever calling in and wanting, like if people are asking a question about their future or just advice in general for the future, I'm always asking, okay, I'm gonna receive some guidance and it's gonna be from your higher self and it's gonna be talking about your highest potential timeline. Cause then the answers that I'm giving you, the guidance that I'm giving you is always going to align you to your highest timeline. And that is obviously where we all wanna be. So I think that is kind of the biggest misconception. And so if any psychic medium is like telling you what to do, that is a red flag. Never telling you what to do, telling you like when you're gonna meet your future husband. Like it just It doesn't work like that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. No, that is great advice. I love that. I think that is a great way to be wrapping up this episode because yeah, I just think all of us want to become our highest selves. That's what I'm on a mission to do. I think everyone's on a mission for that. So I think tapping into that is the best thing you can do.
SPEAKER_02Yes. I uh one of the best things I ever did was just continuously be in contact and connection with my higher self. And no matter if you believe in spirituality or energy or anything, you know, it can just be your future self. And I think that in a world that is constantly still connected to like doing and becoming and achieving, I think doing it in a way that is just aligned to your energy is so important. So I'm excited to see how you all step into your higher selves and connect with them.
SPEAKER_01Yes. Okay, Emma. So the final question I have is something I ask all of my guests, which is, what are you manifesting right now?
SPEAKER_02What am I manifesting right now? I think the biggest thing that I'm manifesting right now is a lot of steadiness and security in my life. I'm the girly that just entered her Saturn return. So there's a lot shifting in my life right now. You know, I've got the beautiful partner, I've got the beautiful home, I've got the amazing business, and there's just a lot that I'm manifesting in my life to just like be a little bit more sturdy and steady and slow and secure. And never would have thought that that would have been what I'm manifesting. But I spent so many years manifesting the big things, and now I'm here to manifest the ones that anchor us into it. So that's what my focus is right now.
SPEAKER_01I love that for you. That's amazing. And where can everyone find you, connect with you, get involved in your world?
SPEAKER_02Best place is over on Instagram. And my handle there is soulfulsunshine.
SPEAKER_01Perfect. And are you doing any like offers or programs or anything right now that you want to tell my audience about?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I just opened my doors to my new membership platform. It's called Oralis. It's a really beautiful space that you enter where there's a lot of energy healing and shifting. There's a lot of quantum leaping and just a beautiful place to enter if you're looking for a little bit more activation in your life, but in a very gentle, steady way.
SPEAKER_01Awesome. Well, everyone, definitely go check her out. Check out the membership, go send her a message on Instagram. Thank you guys so much for listening, and I will see you next week.