Where the Woo Meets the Work

How to Manifest a Next-Level Life (Private Jets, Teslas, and More) with Mikayla Jai 💸

• Kayla Bowen • Episode 36

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Episode 36: Today, I sit down with Mikayla Jai to talk about how to actually manifest everything you want in life. We went way beyond the fluffy, surface-level advice you usually hear and Mikayla shares how she manifested everything from a Tesla to a literal private jet, and the identity shifts, belief, and action that made it all happen.

We talk about why most people aren’t manifesting what they want, the biggest mistakes to avoid, how to stop self-sabotaging right before your breakthrough, and what it really takes to quantum leap into your next-level life. If you’re sick of manifestation tips that don’t actually do anything and you want a no-BS approach to actually get results, this episode is for you!

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SPEAKER_01

Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Where the Woo Meets the Work. Today I'm interviewing someone very special, which I am so excited about. You guys are going to love this episode. I'm interviewing the Michaela J, who is a seven-figure entrepreneur and top manifestation coach. We're going to be talking all things manifestation today. And since 2018, she has helped tens of thousands of women master the art of mindset, manifestation, and spiritual money through her no BS approach. As the host of the top-ranked Mindset, Magic and Manifestation podcast with more than 5 million downloads, Michaela's message is associated with creating a luxury lifestyle, savage mindset, and relentless action taking. Her clients and listeners know her for her iconic saying, your excuses are boring. Through her coaching programs, international retreats, podcast live tours, luxury VIP weekends, and online content galore, Michaela equips her people with the discipline and beliefs required for repeatable and magnetic manifestation success. I have followed Michaela for years online, so I'm so excited to finally have her on the podcast to chat with you guys today all about manifestation. I feel like there's so much manifestation stuff out there, and sometimes it's kind of hard to know who to trust and who not to, but I know that we can trust Michaela, and by the end of this episode, you guys are going to walk away with so much information, so many tangible tips to put into your life about manifestation. So let's get into it. Welcome to where the woo meets the work. I'm your host, Kayla. It's time to get out of your head, into your soul, and do the work that lights you up so you can align with your highest self and actually create the life you've been dreaming about. Welcome to the show, Michaela. I am so excited to have you on and talk all about manifestation today since you are literally the manifestation queen.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, thank you. I am so excited to be here. I just have such a good feeling about today. Like I was getting ready and it's such a good like intuition feeling. I'm like, this is gonna be good. I hope everybody has downloaded the episode to listen twice before we even start.

SPEAKER_01

Me too. It's gonna be so much fun because you are one of my business manifestation lifestyle idols. So it's so much fun to be able to interview you today.

SPEAKER_00

Thanks. That means so much. I'm really excited.

SPEAKER_01

So to start off, I would love to be talking all about manifestation. I'd love to know what are some of the coolest or biggest things that you have manifested for yourself.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, it's so tough when I think about this question because there's so many. It's like which ones are the best? I think one of my favorite ones that's been recent last year in August, I did an amazing retreat with my clients. We did two countries, we did Greece and Italy, and I manifested us getting a private jet to go from Greece to Italy, which is literally was so insane. I had the idea before I even launched the retreat of like, okay, I knew I was gonna do multiple countries. And I was like, we have to do a private jet. Like it is that would be the most MJ thing ever. Like, that would be so iconic. And I had no idea how it was gonna come together, truly, other than just like one foot in front of the other, I'll figure it out along the way. And there were so many points where it wasn't going to work, but I'm me and I make every single thing work. And last minute we had the best experience. We ended up having to go to a different Greek island to fly out on this jet. So we ended up manifesting having an extra boat day. Cause we literally had to take this like private, this doesn't sound real. I swear to God, this is true. Like we had to take this private luxury boat from one Greek island to the next to like fly out on our private jet. And we like popped champagne. It was also one of the girls' birthdays. Like it was just so magical. And every moment that led up to it, it really looked like it wasn't going to work. And I think that's just the beauty of manifestation is like when you hold the vision, you're like, it's going to work, anyways. And it does. So that's why one of my most recent ones that's like a big OMG manifestation.

SPEAKER_01

Holy shit, I cannot believe that. Oh my God. Okay, I want to go on your retreats. This is amazing.

SPEAKER_00

It was the best. And it's so funny because so many of the girls had said, like in 2025, they put a you know a private jet on their vision board, as most of us do who love a luxury bougie lifestyle. And they're like, I just kind of put it on for the vibe, like, no idea what the timeline would be. They all said they did not believe it would be in 2025. And I was like, don't worry, like I got you. Like, I went into 2025 with a mission, and I was like, this is gonna be a private jet type of year. And it was so crazy. And I didn't tell anybody, it was a total surprise. I didn't tell anybody until we were walking on the runway up to the plane, and it was the only one in the entire airport. And they were like, Are we flying in a private jet? And I was like, Yes, yes, we are. You're welcome for the manifestation.

SPEAKER_01

Damn, oh my gosh. I love this so much because I feel like a lot of people talk about manifestation, but we don't really talk about luxury manifestation like that. Usually, when I'm thinking about my vision board, I just put like, oh, I want to go on a trip, not like private jet gonna be going in style. That's so cool. And I think that is so expansive for anyone who's listening that the sky's the limit, literally for you.

SPEAKER_00

Literally, private jet in the sky. And I think about that all the time. It's like if we truly tapped into this energy of I can have anything I want, and I can, if I'm willing to go and create that, I can create whatever I want. So why would I not go big? Why would I not take it to that level? The only time that we don't is when we're wrapped up in our own limitation that we think we can't create that, or we think that can't be our lives, or we think, oh, well, I'm just this girl from you know, insert small town or insert this type of family, and I can't go create that. And it's like, no, you actually can if you're willing to believe that big, willing to believe in yourself and willing to figure it out.

SPEAKER_01

Well, it's gonna be hard to top that one, but is there anything else you've manifested that you want to share?

SPEAKER_00

Oh man, there's so many other amazing ones, but one of my other favorites that's kind of like a throwback manifestation for me was when I manifested my very first Tesla, I was not living the private jet lifestyle. Okay, I was living in Lincoln, Nebraska at the time where I went to college in like this very dingy apartment. My view was the parking lot, like not very bougie girl life. And I drove this like Ford fusion at the time that I loved, but I just felt like I want a new car. I want to expand my identity, I want to stretch myself in that way. So I got a Tesla and I was leasing it. And because I was super young and I was making great money, but I didn't have credit because I was so young, like my leasing application looked so confusing. And they were like, what's going on here? Basically. Um they were like, we're only gonna let you lease this car if you pay for half of it upfront in cash. And I was not a saver. Your girl did not have that money in savings. And I was like, oh my gosh. And they told me to pay that half the next week when I was picking up my car, like seven days. And so I was like, Oh, okay. I literally was on the phone then. I'm like, no problem. Hang up the phone, instant panic, like, okay, well, now we have to go figure this out. And I set myself on this journey of like, okay, in the next seven days, I basically needed to manifest like 10K, which I had never done in a week before because I had to pay for the car, and I also had to pay one of my one of my coaches and I needed to pay rent right after that. So it was just all stacking up at once. And I remember thinking, like, there's literally no time to have doubt, fear, or overthinking. There's just no time for that. It was like, I have to walk in on my belief for this next week, and I have to have like that belief infused in every action step. And the day before, I ended up manifesting a client who paid in full for coaching, and it was the exact amount that all of these expenses were gonna be. Somebody I had never talked to before had just randomly slid in my DMs. They're like, I've been listening to the podcast, read it, watching your content, like, I want to work with you. And it was the day before. And I'm like, okay, that was fucking crazy. Got my Tesla. It was, it was an insane moment for sure. So that was a big manifestation where I also like had to hold this high level of belief when everything looks like it wasn't working. I actually remember somebody asking me at the time, they're like, okay, it's like two days out. Like, what are you gonna do? And I was like, I'm gonna get the car, like I'm gonna make the payment. Like, what do you mean? They're like, but you don't have the money. And I was like, I will, don't worry, like full delusion. But I also was taking action to back that. So that was another kind of crazy manifestation story that I kind of pushed myself to accomplish.

SPEAKER_01

Damn, you can't make that shit up.

SPEAKER_00

That's crazy. Story of my life. Like, so many things. I'm just like, you can literally cannot make this up. Like, I think one of the big pieces of behind a lot of my manifestations is I very much so identify as somebody who is literally crazy. I tell myself that's like my favorite affirmation. Like, I am crazy. My husband calls me crazy all the time in a good way. He's like, You're crazy. Like, if anybody can do it, it's you. And so it's like I just go for these really big manifestations that most people like don't have the guts to, but I'm like, well, I'm crazy. So let me go do something crazy. And then it works out, right? And like sometimes it doesn't work out how I thought, but I'm always willing to find that way because I'm crazy committed. So it's a big identity thing for me too.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I was thinking when you were talking about how with the Tesla two days before you didn't have the money, but you still didn't give up. And I've noticed with a number of people who I talk to, they have who are like very successful, they have this unshakable belief in themselves that everything is going to work out. So, how did you get that?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I always talk about being relentless. I think when I look back over my career and my life and my personal growth transformation, like it all boils down to just being like one relentless motherfucker, truly, like unwilling to accept anything other than what I want. And I think for me, this comes from my upbringing because I lived alone at a very young age. I started living alone when I was 15. So when you're young and you're going to school and you're working and you're on your own, you're figuring it out, it's like there's nowhere to go but up from here. And it's up to me to go and create that. There's nobody to fall back on, there's nobody to rely on. And so I think I look back at that time in my life and I feel very blessed that I had those unfortunate circumstances because it forced me to be this relentless person where if I want something, I have to go get it. I have to go create that. And I think we all have these moments in our childhood and being young adults and like growing up, we all have moments like that, whether or not you come from, you know, a good family home or not. It's just choosing to make power moves over and over and over again. And I think about those power moves I make all of the time. And it's like, yeah, like that's a moment that I could have just given up. That's a moment where I could have settled, but I chose not to. And I let that be the defining moment. Whereas most people let the kind of the failures, the moments they drop off, be their defining moment. I'm like, no, I choose to see the best points in my life. And I think that's what builds your certainty and makes you commit to going after what you want.

SPEAKER_01

Definitely. Can you tell us a little bit more about your early years? Because I feel like there was something about a raccoon house that I want to hear about.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, a hundred percent. So the raccoon house is an OG story in MJ world. So many of my people know this. So, right before I had a spirit, my spiritual awakening and went on this journey. I lived in this really disturbing, disgusting house, and it literally had a hole in the ceiling in the kitchen and like a raccoon fell through one time. And bless my mom's soul, she like put up one of those wardrobe dividers, thinking that that was gonna keep the raccoon like away from us. Luckily, a raccoon never fell through again. It was a one-time situation, but she really thought this wardrobe thing was gonna protect us. But I just always call it the raccoon house because, like, hole in the ceiling, raccoon. There was no AC, there was no Wi-Fi, like the bathtub didn't drain. It was not an ideal situation. And this point in my life, I had lived alone from 15 on up, and then my childhood home got foreclosed. So my mom had moved all of this stuff into this house. And then me and my best friend lived in that house over a summer in between college semesters. And I was like rock bottom, like as anybody would probably be living in that type of situation. And I just remember looking around this house that was stuffed full of all of my childhood. It was like a hoarder home. So it was really, really small. And I remember being like, I am made for so much more than what is going on here. My room was like a mattress with on the floor, which is what I had for most of my life. And I'm just like, I am, I think I was 18 at the time. And I was like, I'm 18 years old sleeping on a mattress on the floor. Like, it's gotta get better than this. And before that, I had really been this self-proclaimed pessimist. Like I always was negative, always complaining and very victimhood mindset. So when I got to the raccoon house and realized how low I was, I just had to snap my ass out of it. And I remember having this moment looking in the mirror and thinking, like, something has to change and it has to start with me because there was nothing else I could change in that situation. I couldn't go live somewhere else at the time. I didn't have the money to go change any of these things. Like it wasn't even my house. Half of it wasn't even my stuff. It was like, okay, there's so many external things going on that I cannot control. What can I control myself? And I think that was the first time I really got like a download from the universe because nobody around me was talking like that. I genuinely look back and I'm like, how the fuck did I think that? Like, thank God I had that moment because afterwards I just realized like I needed to become a different person if I wanted things to change. And I think we all get to these crossroad moments where it's like, okay, that I am not good with what's happening here. I know I'm meant for more than this. I know I have more potential. I know I'm meant to live this type of life, this type of career, have this type of relationship, this type of dream body. And in that moment, that's what I call the power move. It's like then you make a power move, whether it's a decision to change yourself, a decision to go to the gym, a decision to launch your business, a decision to get into your journal for the first time in a while. And I just chose the power move rather than victimhood mode. So that was the raccoon house. That's what kicked off my spiritual awakening. And after that, I ended up studying abroad, which is when I had this kind of spiritual awakening because I didn't know anybody who was going and it was over the summer. And I remember thinking, like, okay, none of these people know me. So let me be a different version of myself than whatever was going on in that raccoon house. We're gonna have a clean slate. And I remember thinking, I'm not gonna complain, I'm not gonna be negative, I'm not gonna gossip, I'm not gonna be in victim mode at all the whole time I'm gone. I'm gonna be the version of Michaela that I always wanted to be. And that's how I showed up the entire time. And it wasn't easy because you're breaking a pattern, but it completely changed my life. And I think when we can find those defining moments in our life that feel like rock bottom, that feel like we have never been so depressed, or we've never been more disappointed in ourselves or whatever moment, and we decide to make a power move and change our identity, the manifestations that come after that are truly mind-blowing.

SPEAKER_01

That's amazing. Your story is so inspiring. And I know you didn't even touch on all of it because I know that I believe your dad went to prison, right? When you were young. So yeah, you've overcome so much adversity.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, he had gone to prison, and that's when I started to live alone. And I just remember thinking also, just this small little detail. Like, I remember thinking, like, I don't want to be this statistic I am supposed to be. You know, it's like, I'm not living with my parents, like I'm working three jobs while in high school, my dad's in prison. Like, that's when people do drugs, get pregnant, and like drop out at 16 years old, right? And it's like, I just remember thinking, like, I am not gonna be that. So, like, that is not the decision I want to make. And everybody's path is beautiful and unique and it it tells their story. But I remember thinking, like, I don't want to be this statistic that I look like I should be. And that's just another power move that that we can make. And I I love talking about bringing, you know, I always bring it back to the power move because I have a very dramatic story, right? That's like very different and a lot of adversity. And there'll be people listening that's like, oh my gosh, well, I don't have like a rags to riches situation, like I don't have like a rock bottom like that. And and you don't even need that. It's those little decisions I made throughout all the adversity that created the version I am today. And I think that's something that people need to remember because we we always listen to these amazing stories, and it's like, whoa, they come from the trenches. And it's like, yes, but also you can come from a very loving home, incredible family, and still have your adversities and choose to make power moves as well.

SPEAKER_01

But yeah, so that's my crazy, crazy story. Definitely. I'm glad you pointed that out. And I can definitely relate to you in some ways. My childhood was not that crazy, but um, I was raised by a single mom. And there are definitely points growing up where like we shared a one-bedroom apartment, sleeping on a mattress on the ground, like that type of a thing. So I totally understand. And I actually met my husband when I was 17. Oh my gosh. Well, that's like when we started dating and yeah, still together, almost 15 years.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. But when we started, I remember my grandpa specifically was worried that I was going to get knocked up just like my mom did and amount to nothing because I moved in with my boyfriend at a young age. So I understand that feeling of wanting to prove people wrong and not being a statistic and also overcoming adversity and having like a fire under your ass to be like, I'm not living that life that I was raised in. I'm going to build a better life for myself. And it kind of leads me to this question of maybe when you're young, you have that fire because more energy and like you just have a lot to prove. But how do you keep that going and not be complacent once you do reach a certain level of success? Because I know you're very successful. So how do you keep going?

SPEAKER_00

Thank you. Such a good question, too. And it's so real because I think back when we think about those eras of our lives, it's this almost like the proving, but also like fight or flight, right? And I talk about this in my clients sometimes too. They're like, you're so motivated. But I'm like, well, yeah, at the beginning I was motivated because I literally had to be. I'm like, it had to work. There was no other option. Kind of like the Tesla story. I had seven days, it had to fucking work, right? So I think once we accelerate when you're at that place of not having to, it's about what do you want to do? And that really drives me. I know a lot of people who have not chosen the journey of self-development and like constantly pursuing their potential. And they're kind of okay with living a more what I call like a normal life and being a normal person. And in the lack of having to do things, they also choose not to go big for themselves. And to me, that is a path of depression. Like growth inspires me, it lights me up. I'm very lit up by by action taking. Like I kind of crave it and building something. So what I'm always thinking about, okay, well, if I don't have to do this, what do I want to do? And I think that's such a great question with manifestation. It's like if you're thinking about manifesting money and your career and your business, or you know, you want to be promoted, it's like, okay, well, if I didn't have to work, then what would I be doing? And how would I be showing up to the office? And how would I be showing up in my business? It's going to inspire you to do things in a different way. And it just reminds you that you can keep going big for yourself. So I think the way I stay inspired after a level of not having to is onceing people all choose small lives, and I'm like, that makes me really sad. I would be really sad. They can be totally happy and I'm happy for them. But I see it and I'm like, how are you? Are you okay? Like, are you okay? So I see that and I'm like, no, I know that I'm the type of person that's always hungry for more. And I want to be that person who, when I don't have to do things, I choose to take it to the next level. I think being all in on yourself and all in on your goals and all in on your growth is the most rewarding journey because how boring would life be if we like didn't want to keep reinventing ourselves and didn't want to keep evolving. So that really drives me. I think about like, ooh, who's Michaela gonna be 10 years down the line? That's crazy to think about. And because I always move that end zone further and think bigger and bigger and bigger, I'm even more hungrier every year, I feel like, to keep crushing it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I even noticed on kind of a smaller scale with you two, because I was listening to your podcast a few months ago, and there was this one episode where you're talking about how you were out of town, and then literally as soon as you got back the next day, like 7 a.m., you're in the gym. No excuses. And I was like, damn, this girl, like, she just goes so fast.

SPEAKER_00

It's still me. It's like, oh, I'm so glad. I'm like, that's me. That's the crazy identity. I'm like, I am literally crazy. I think, especially when we're thinking about travel too, because I'm somebody who travels a lot, a lot, a lot for work and in general. If we're doing that and constantly like doing that, you can even take that to socializing, right? If you're somebody who has a very social life at home, if we're always like taking a recovery day, things get pushed off and they get pushed off and they get pushed off. And the things we end up pushing off are the ways that we refuel ourselves. We fill our own cup. We fill our own energy. So when I go to the gym, a lot of people work out and they're like, I'm so tired. Like I could like run a mile after going to the gym. Like I feel so energized. So if I come back from a trip and I don't hit the gym, I'm still like maybe feeling jet lag. I'm like, I don't want to unpack my suitcase. It's like my boost of energy. And I'm always thinking about that too. I feel my most alive when I have a lot of energy. And so we're I'm always asking myself, like, what are those things that give me the most energy? We need to stay locked in with that because that's how we stay in touch with our lives. That's when we're the happiest. So for me, it's like, oh, well, I don't have to go to the gym the day after, but like I genuinely want to. I could take a rest day, but I like want to have this energizer bunny energy through the roof because I have so many things I'm creating. Like, let's fucking go. I think that's kind of how my brain works around that. That's amazing.

SPEAKER_01

I need to channel that energy.

SPEAKER_00

It's the crazy identity. I'm telling you, if everybody, everybody take this away from the episode. Write it down right now. I am fucking crazy and it will bring you so much energy. But there's also been like so many times in my life where I kind of had a lull. You know, I think that's important to bring up too. Like, I do think I'm always crazy, but there's times where I'm like, oh yeah, this is batshit crazy. I'm gonna do something crazy, but then that crazy just becomes a normal. And so then we have to be honest with ourselves and be like, hey, this might be crazy for the old version of you, but this is now your normal and you've just kind of been playing in a comfort zone. So like let's lean back in. And what would actually be crazy? Or times where I do feel like I'm thinking crazy goals, but maybe I'm not taking the crazy action or even implementing that mindset. And I think it takes a really big level of self-awareness to say, like, no, I know who I am. Let me snap back into it. I can turn that momentum back on at any point. Let me turn it back on. Like, let me be alive again. It's like I realize these moments sometimes where I'm like, am I being am I dead inside? Like, wake up, wake up. And then I come back to the crazy identity.

SPEAKER_01

I love that. It's like setting a new normal and a new standard for yourself.

SPEAKER_00

A hundred percent. And like we can always do that. And I think it's required because we go through different phases of life. And I'm sure you know this being married too. It's like you have different priorities, and then sometimes your partner's priorities change, and then you guys' priorities change. Like we're always elevating in life and we're always changing and evolving. So, like when we have new priorities and things move around, we need to come back to what are my standards with these priorities? Like, what are the boundaries I want to hold with these priorities? What's the identity I need to have to prioritize these things and remember who you are, but also recreate that a little bit too.

SPEAKER_01

Definitely. So, with manifestation, what do you think are some things that actually work? And also what is just total bullshit?

SPEAKER_00

So many things are total bullshit. I love this question. So I'm gonna start with the bullshit piece and then I'm gonna tell you what we really, what we really got to get into. The things that have brought me the most disappointing results in manifestation because I have truly, like I don't like the word try, but just for this context, like tried and true. I have tried everything under the sun. Because when I first learned about manifestation, it was 2017. Now manifestation is all over the place. There's great information. People talk about it like it's just a normal food or a normal, like a normal word. Back then it wasn't. It was like spiritual woo-woo weird, no one was talking about it. So I had all these weird, like spiritual things that I was doing, like the quantum leaping cup method where you would like pour water into one cup. You would like speak to the water and then you pour it in the next cup and like speak to that, pour it into the next, and you drink it, and that was supposed to like work. And there's definitely something to say about speaking into water, water carries memory. Absolutely. But if that's all you're doing and you're expecting your life to change and become a millionaire, that's that's bullshit. Like that's just not what it's gonna take. So that's one example. Another one that I despise would be like the three, six, nine, five, five, five methods where you're writing things 700 times. Babe, the time you wasted writing that stuff down, you could have been taking action and could have actually moved the ball forward so much. So it's like any of these little like writing challenges, or the last one that I'll say is like bullshit that I can't stand is when people like write something down and put it under their pillow, and then like they'll be like, he text me back, put it under your pillow. And when you wake up, you get a text from him, like, what the fuck? I feel like this is a bit of a hot take, and I'm not trying to slander anybody, but I feel like the people that say that works are putting that under their pillow. They're posting a very cute thirst trap on their Instagram story, and then their man is circling back, right? Because he's like, dang, I miss her. That was your inspired action step, girl. You look good. Of course, he's gonna text you, but let's not forget that part of the conversation. And and I feel like a lot of these little manifestation hacks, people are leaving out the full picture. So those to me are bullshit because it's forgetting that we need to take action. So, what actually works with manifestation is one, knowing what you want, of course, like knowing what you're actually creating, being in the energy of it's done, right? That's that certainty that I've talked about, kind of walking in. It's like the belief has to be like this is working no matter what. If the plan goes awry, I'm just gonna figure it out. There's no if, ands, or buts. So the energy and the certainty is there, and then the action matches that. That's what works on repeat. But the piece that a lot of people don't talk about after taking the action is the trust factor. And I always talk about this with my manifestation clients. Like it's like the hidden step of manifestation is actually letting go. And this is really challenging. I'm also a very obsessed type of person. I am obsessed with my goals. I like a hyperfixation, like I just like love and obsess over things. But what I mean by letting go is going and then living your life. A lot of people will be in belief with their manifestation. They do the journaling, they do the mindset shifting, they take the action, but then they sit around and they wait and they wait and they wait. And they don't go live their life until the result is here. And we forget that we need to be actually embodying that next level version of us. That was the whole point of believing that you're actually going to achieve it, is you're being the version of you who already has it is certain. So if you were actually certain that the action steps were going to work, you would then go live your life. You would go have wine with your husband, you would go to, you know, take do an activity with your girls, you would go to a Pilates class, like you'd take a bath, you'd watch a movie, like you'd do whatever you want to do with your life. And people forget about that. So I think what we have to remember that actually works with manifestation is your belief needs to be locked in. Your action steps need to be present. Like I need to be able to look at your life and see that you're taking action. Like if I can look at your calendar, I can tell whether or not you're actually working on your manifestations. And then afterwards, you need to live your life because that actually shows that you trust yourself, trust the process, and trust that things are working out in your favor.

SPEAKER_01

Ooh, so much goodness there. Even that little calendar bit about if I can look at your calendar, I'll know if you're taking action. That's a great point and something that I think people could just go look at your calendar and see, be like, hmm, I haven't reached my manifestations. Maybe that's why because I'm not putting in the work.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's like, what is in the calendar? I did a whole episode on my podcast, I think last year, about my Google calendar and how I use it for manifestation. I should do an updated one. This is a good reminder. But I am somebody who likes loves a Google calendar. And I'm like, okay, well, there should be pockets of time that you're working towards these goals, right? Like when I was working on getting the private jet, like there would be time in the calendar. It would be like 30 minutes, reach out to private jet companies, watch TikToks on best advice when booking a private jet. Like I was like spending the time putting in the work, not only acquiring the information, but actually reaching out to companies, figuring out what it is they need to do, get quotes, figure out how much money that I'm gonna be needing to put aside to spend on that, right? It's like put that in the calendar. Same thing if you have fitness goals. Are you scheduling in your workout? Are you scheduling in your walks? Are you scheduling lunchtime? Because nutrition's a part of that. And people really underestimate where their time is going and how much that matters with your manifestations.

SPEAKER_01

Do you think that there's anything people should avoid when they are trying to manifest something?

SPEAKER_00

Hmm. That's an interesting question. I think what people need to avoid is the idea of controlling somebody else for their outcome. Because I see this a lot when it comes to like relationships. They're like, well, I just want to make this person change in this way for the relationship to work, right? Like maybe their man has gotten a little lazy and they want somebody who has the same level of fitness as them. And so they're like, well, I'm gonna manifest him being more active in the gym, him coming to work out with me, blah, blah, blah. That will make a relationship better because that is what is in alignment with what I want. And when we focus on changing the external, we kind of lose the plot because all you can control, like my very first breakthrough is yourself. It starts with you every time. So where people mess things up, it's like, well, I'm gonna manifest my boss thinking that I'm the perfect person for this opportunity. I'm gonna manifest my man doing this, I'm gonna manifest that my friend gets this opportunity and they bring me along. It's like, no, what about you? Like, you have that power and you would feel more in control, more confident if you focused on yourself. So if you're somebody that is kind of struggling with this or or you're doing this without realizing, I think it's really important to whatever we are putting on somebody else in terms of our manifestations to bring back to ourselves. If you want your friends to be more active, instead of say, let's go to the bar, like ask them to go on a walk with you or go to yoga or go to Pilates, you want your man to go to the gym. Well, you go to the gym every single day and he's gonna catch on. Like men love to like copy what their woman is doing, truly. Found that out in marriage. It's like they just don't follow the lead a lot of times, right? So it's like if you want your boss to notice you for an opportunity or you want a client to uh notice you for an opportunity, it's like, well, make yourself undeniable in that way. So I think that's something that I would tell people to avoid is putting it on the external rather than empowering yourself.

SPEAKER_01

That's great advice. I feel like that is our first inclination is to kind of try to change what's going on around us instead of just doing the work on ourselves and leading by example. But I think you're definitely going to get people in your life to be more on the same page if you are doing the things that you're talking about.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, totally. You then like are the leader and people want the right people that are meant to be in your life, they want to calibrate to where you're going. When I started my self-development journey, I lost a lot of friends because they were just like, What are you doing? This is weird. We used to like gossip about these people, or we would just complain about college and this, this, and that. And it's like, well, that's not the path that I'm on anymore. That's not what I want to do. And some of my friends fell away. And then some of them were like, Oh, yeah, I could be more positive. I could be setting more goals for myself. I could be actually taking care of myself. And I remember at the time I was waking up at 6 a.m. every day. I was working out, like I was working out once a day, walking once a day. I was, I was really, really regimented because it was very serious about changing my life. And my friends were like, Oh, yeah, and I'm sleeping in every day. Like I should have a morning routine. And it's just so crazy how that the small things that we do for ourselves impact everybody in our lives. And I think we underestimate that because people don't always change the first month, right? It's like some of my friends didn't catch on till like six, seven months later, but it was never my goal to change them. It was just my goal to be the best version of myself, knowing the right people would want to elevate with me.

SPEAKER_01

So, speaking of kind of like, you know, things to avoid, also, what do you think is the biggest thing keeping people from manifesting what they want?

SPEAKER_00

I think that they quit two steps from the finish line. I say this a lot. I think that we are all oftentimes so close to getting exactly what we want, and then we drop the ball because then we just we stop believing because it's easier in our minds to stop believing than it is to be disappointed. Oh my gosh, I have so many examples of this that I see in clients that I see in myself, right? On a business example, right? Like I'll have a lot of clients that are like launching a program or launching their first service. I have a lot of clients that are facialists and they'll be doing a new membership package, for example, at their spa and they've been promoting it for like two weeks. And they're like, There's no bites. I think I should pivot. I think I should stop talking about it. And I'm like, it's only been two weeks. What if there are all these people on the fence that are just they're waiting for payday? They're waiting, they sent the link to their man to like sign them up for the membership. We have no idea what's going on behind the scenes that if you held the belief for a longer period of time, things would really click into place for you. I think about that with the Tesla manifestation. I stuck it out all the way through to the finish line and it it works. But we're so afraid of failure oftentimes. So we just we just quit. We throw our hands up in the air. And I think fitness is a really good example of a way that we can lock in because you're not gonna lose 10 pounds in one workout. Like you're not gonna go from, you know, being in shape to being like bodybuilder ready in one week. It's like you're building something, you know, you're becoming a new version of yourself, you're changing your physique, you're changing your life. And if we quit after one week, we would never accomplish the things that we want. I worked on the private jet manifestation for six months. There's still ongoing manifestations that I work on that I wanted earlier that I'm still building now, and I'm willing to see it through. But that's scary and that takes a level of being relentless that a lot of people are uncomfortable with.

SPEAKER_01

I feel lovingly called out because this is totally me. I love it. I love it. It's a mini coaching session. Yes, definitely, definitely what I need to hear. And I feel that way whenever I listen to your podcast, that it's like the swift kick in the butt that I'm like, I need this energy because a lot of people, especially if you like in a spiritual community, it's all like love and the light and go at your own pace, and we're totally in the feminine. And I like your energy because it's no bullshit. We're actually gonna get shit done and really manifest things for ourselves.

SPEAKER_00

It's like very in your base. I'm so no bullshit. You know, growing up, my dad was a marine. So, like when we got in trouble when we were kids, we were doing burpees. Like we were running laps. This is why I love fitness so much. It was programmed in my brain. Like we were literally, oh, you're in trouble. Like, we weren't being grounded, we were doing burpees in the living room. Okay. One of my friends one time called me the manifestation marines. It's very like locked in. And I'm like, that is so me. But it's the edge that we need. And I think when we go too far into like the airy, fairy, like, if it doesn't feel good, don't do it. We're doing ourselves a disservice, right? And a lot of what I've been talking about online lately is quantum leaping. And it's like when you're quantum leaping, there does get a point in this up-level process that feels really sticky. It feels uncomfortable. It feels like you're failing. Like it almost feels like I'm getting what I want, but I feel like I'm kind of flopping at the same time. And we don't train ourselves enough to have the emotional capacity to hold that sticky hesitation feeling. So then that's where we drop two steps from the finish line. And a lot of people end up self-sabotaging their quantum leap. I always think about it as like a bell curve or a pyramid. It's like they fall right back down the hill because they're not holding that discomfort. So that's why I like to be a little bit more of like your hard ass manifestation coach because I'm like, someone's gotta do it. And this is the real shit that people don't want to talk about because it's not as fun and sexy as meditate, feel amazing, glamour magic, and your life's gonna be great. It's like, no, this is the real shit.

SPEAKER_01

You should totally start like a meme page manifestation marine or something.

SPEAKER_00

I know I've thought about that before, truly. I'm like, it's such a good like character, like an avatar to have.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. Well, I love that you brought up quantum leaps. For anyone who doesn't know, can you kind of explain what that means?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I people love talking about quantum manifestation because it happens fast, right? When we think about, for me, it's a science-based practice in conversation, essentially. Like quantum leaping is a scientific thing that happens inside of an atom. So let's go science just for a second. Like inside of an atom, you've got these like energy rings, right? And there are electrons on those rings, and electrons can jump from one to the next. That is the quantum leap. It just has these electrons have to muster up all this energy to actually leap and land on the new level. So what I'm talking about, this process of we leap and then we kind of feel like we're flopping and we're hesitating and we're overwhelmed and we fall back down. That is the electrons in your body snapping back down into the other energy ring, our comfort zone, the where our body is normally regulated. It's just in that middle tension, we don't know what to do. So we never stabilize the energy and then it doesn't quantum leap. So that's the process I'm talking about. But what quantum leaping actually is, it's originally taught as a form of manifestation that is a lot faster than normal manifestation. And all it really is, is making a huge dramatic change in your life. That's all. Like it doesn't have to be on a timeline, it's just we're making a big jump into something else. And so I like to take it to the science side where we are just focusing on our energy because that's what we have to sustain. And it's an identity practice. It's like, how willing are you to hold a new identity that doesn't feel normal because it's not your normal? It's not comfortable, but it's where you want to go. Are you willing to hold that and knowing it's gonna be uncomfortable? And then also knowing once you quantum leap into this new lifestyle, you have to learn how to normalize that. Because one thing that people also don't talk about with the science of quantum leaping is these electrons can reach that energetic level and fall back down if they're not sustaining the required frequency to be on that level. There are so many layers of what I just said, but basically, quantum leaping is the scientific spiritual practice of completely changing your life in a very big way based off of energetics. And my practice is always okay, let's hold this identity, let's hold this new energy, and then what action steps support that identity so you can normalize this quantum leap.

SPEAKER_01

I've never had anyone explain the science behind it before.

SPEAKER_00

So that was amazing.

SPEAKER_01

I love that. I'm so glad.

SPEAKER_00

I remember when I first heard about it, quantum leaping in 2017. Remember, no one's fucking talking about it. Like the only person that said anything about quantum leaping was Abraham Hicks or like some really like old school spiritual people. And the only practice I could find was hold a belief for 17 seconds. And that was enough to quantum leap. Because in the quantum realm, this is a really nerdy science. Like, all like every quantum particle is in two places at once. So you can have a thought and it lights up the other particle in a completely different part of the universe that can then snap in your manifestation. So that's where this fast manifestation came from because quantum particles are in two places at once, your old reality and the new reality, right? So they said 17 seconds is enough to snap that in, which is a great concept. And scientifically, it's true, it's in two places at once. But as a human, our belief level typically isn't, oh, in 17 seconds I can snap in a million dollars. And then we're also not patient enough to believe that we did the energetic shift and then to wait for the actual physical manifestation to come in. And so I was like, the 17 second thing isn't really making sense to me. I'm like, I could see it, but I don't get it. And I remember I was in college studying this, and I'm like, okay, I really want to understand. And so I took myself out on sushi dates once a week and I would sit down on my laptop, get my therapy and sushi, and I would literally read through like all of these science write-ups on quantum physics, quantum mechanics to make sense of it. You know how like in science class, they made you do these like long, boring reports. I was like reading through those in all of this science jargon. So that's why I can explain some of the science because I was like, this doesn't make sense. I want to understand. And so then I realized, oh, it's all about maintaining that energy level. And where the work then comes in is how do we learn to hold a new energy? How do we learn to have the capacity to hold uncomfortable feelings? That's the real work that we have to lean into for quantum leaping.

SPEAKER_01

Wait, I love you. That is so cute. I love your sushi dates. That's amazing. That's like the best thing I've ever heard.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I know. I'm like, why do I actually tell that story online more? I'm like, I was just me and Little Lincoln, Nebraska. Just like, can you just imagine like an 18-year-old MJ like reading science reports in the corner of like this bougie sushi restaurant? Like, how random. But that's like how obsessed. Like I told you, I'm an obsessed crazy person. That's how much I really wanted to get it and to understand it. And I think that's why then I have so many clients that will come into my programs that see these huge transformations in themselves internally. And then it creates all these external manifestations because they now understand how to hold energy. They know how to hold big feelings and resistance and how to be in that up-level curve, feeling like they're flopping, but do the work to actually maintain the energy. It's because I'm like, I have the science to back it. Welcome.

SPEAKER_01

That's amazing. You are really ahead of your time because 18, that's nuts. I mean, I'm 31, and literally just this past year is when I'm getting into quantum physics. Like I love it. It's like right here. I just ordered this book. Oh, I love it. Yeah. But I'm like, you already know everything.

SPEAKER_00

That is so cool. I love that. I'm just nerdy. I was always very book smart. And so I was like, I wanna understand. Because I also feel like when we can understand and comprehend what's going on, we instantly have more belief, right? So it's like if we can understand that a practice for manifestation, it's as simple as shifting your limiting beliefs. If we really believe that, oh, if I change these beliefs, I'm gonna get what I want. If we fully believe that, it's actually gonna work better for us. And that's what I wanted with quantum leaping. I'm like, I can see this, but I want to believe it. So I know that it will work for me. And I think that that's very underrated. And we just take in lots of information without ever getting to a level of understanding and true comprehension. And then that's how we get kind of half manifestations from time to time.

SPEAKER_01

So if someone is wanting to quantum leap, what do you think is maybe a first internal shift that they need to make?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I think the first thing is making a big power move, is what I've talked about a lot here. Is like you have to do something that shakes you out of your comfort zone. That's the whole first step, right? You are just imagine yourself as this little electron, you're ready to jump to the next level. That's physically what's going on in your body in this process, anyways. And so it's like, okay, what's gonna shake you out of that? So for me, it's like, okay, well, let me go get this private jet. This is something I've never done before. This is crazy. This is expensive. Like, let's do it, let's full send it, right? It's like that's like a really big example. But even back at the beginning of my journey, one thing that felt crazy for me was, ooh, let me post a YouTube video. And it was like, I was posting like fashion YouTube videos in my university. It's like so random, but it felt so out of my comfort zone. That was a power move for me at the time. Even deciding before I study abroad, I'm not gonna gossip, be negative, I'm not gonna be a victim of mindset, just choosing a new identity. That's a power move for people. And so that's the first thing you have to do is make a power move that you're actually committed to that makes you feel uncomfortable. And a lot of people think like, ooh, let me do something out of my comfort zone, but it's actually not big enough to make them feel uncomfortable. So that's why I say like a power move rather than just get out of your comfort zone, because it might be out of your comfort zone to like go talk to a stranger, but it's not really like a big, like, this is gonna change who I am fundamentally. And that's what we have to do to start quantum leaping, is become a bigger version of yourself. So it always starts with that power move for wherever you're at based off of what your goals are.

SPEAKER_01

I totally agree. I feel like when I started this podcast in September, that was like my power move. Yeah. And now I'm having guests like you on the show. So yeah.

SPEAKER_00

You are doing it's a big quantum leap. Even like, and that's this is a perfect example of it, right? It's like it's out of it's out of the comfort zone, but it's a big power move. And it's something you've actually committed to doing and showing up for. And I'm sure as you felt, I know I've felt from hosting my podcast for a long time, it's like you do become a different version of yourself. You sit down, you have to share your thoughts, you have to be somewhat eloquent, you need to be able to communicate at least decently well. You need to be as entertaining to keep people listening. It's like, so then all of these other characteristic traits start to develop that maybe you didn't have before. And then that's where we start seeing these quantum leaps because this new identity, the new version of you with these characteristic traits is a match for different manifestations, different conversations, being around different people, and that brings in different results.

SPEAKER_01

I also feel like when someone is working towards a quantum leap, like they might be getting really close, but then they perhaps self-sabotage. So, what is going on here? Why do people do that? And how do we do it like not do that?

SPEAKER_00

Why do we quit two steps from the finish line? Truly. I think specifically in the quantum leap, we get to that part where we feel like we're flopping. And that's always how I feel too. It's like we get to this point where we made the power move, and now we get a little overwhelmed when we're in it because we're normalizing this new level of executing or showing up for ourselves or holding a new identity. So it starts to feel like, oh wow, this is taking a lot more time than I expected. Or like, even if it's in the gym, you feel like, oh, I'm really sore, like, and now I'm really exhausted. Now I have to eat more. Like, you have all these new growing pains that you didn't expect. And people say, I'm overwhelmed. Now I feel all this pressure, and they shut down. Now I always call it like this tension moment, and that's how you know you're two steps away from getting exactly what you want because you're meeting a new level of resistance that you have never rubbed against before. As we get older, I feel like we're not used to doing new things anymore. Like when we're kids and in school, we're always learning something new. You're meeting new teachers, new students every year, you're playing new sports, whatever. There's so much newness. We get used to that. But then when we're adults, we don't rub up against new things super often. So it becomes more intimidating and less routine for us. So we feel it and then we think that's wrong. Like, ooh, I don't know. And a lot of people are uncomfortable with the unknown, which is a whole other conversation, but they're like, ooh, this is different. It doesn't feel right, it doesn't feel good. I'm overwhelmed, pressure, I'm out. And then that's when they self-sabotage because they will run home and cry burnout, oftentimes. I always say this like, people are oftentimes not burnt out, they're just tired. You're just doing something new. You're you're expanding yourself, you're exhausted because it's a new energy. You're not burnt out, but everybody wants to say they're burnt out nowadays. So that's where people self-sabotage too. They're like, Well, I'm hearing burnouts, like, let me take a break. And no, you just really needed 12 hours of sleep and like a half a gallon of water and a little refresh, and you could keep going if you had that self-talk. So, where people self-sabotage is they start to feel the heat. They feel the pressure of actually changing, they feel this overwhelm from a new level of executing, and they don't have the tools often to support themselves through that process. Gotcha.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that totally makes sense. I'm gonna remember that for next time I start doing that.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. It's like, and also I like to say, like, this is what we run into almost every single time we quantum leap. So once we recognize it, it's really helpful because now you can know next time you up level for everybody listen, it's like, oh, I'm feeling that tension. I'm feeling overwhelmed. Oh, that's when I used to kind of give up. That's when I would stop when in the gym is consistently. That's when I would take a week off. Oh, it's because I'm not comfortable with this. Now actually let me push through and let me see. This is what I tell myself. It's like, let me see who I can become on the other side of this. Who's on the other side of the overwhelm? On the other side of the pressure. On the other side is the version of you who doesn't get overwhelmed by that anymore, doesn't feel pressure by that. And that's the quantum leap. So it's really cool to have this conversation. I'm so glad that we're talking about this and for people to hear it because when you guys are there, you now know, oh, I know exactly what's happening. Let me push through, let me be just 1% more relentless and let's see what happens. That's how we push through that sabotage.

SPEAKER_01

That is such great words of wisdom. I'm so happy that you said all of that. And I think just like one last question I have about quantum leaping would be personally, what daily or weekly practices do you use to stay in this quantum leap that you're in of this next level identity instead of going back into your old self?

SPEAKER_00

There's two main things. One of them is movement. I think it's so important to be moving your body because there's so much that we remember in the body and so much stagnant energy that stays in the body that makes it more comfortable to stay where we're at. So for me, like I love to work out too. So, like I am just like my little workout routine. Like I'm in the gym four days a week. I do hot yoga once a week and hot Pilates, and then I have one rest day, which is like very crazy level of activity. So I'm not saying everybody needs to copy this. But then I also love to get in like a 45-minute walk every day. That is always the goal, if not more. So, like, but the point of me doing that is I'm moving my body so much that anytime I feel resistance, I'm like, can I go on a walk right now? Can I push through this? Like, I'm gonna work this out in my workout. I'm I'm kind of assigning my resistance to a workout. Like, if I'm frustrated in the evening, I'm like, you know what? Let me put a pit in this feeling and let me take it out on the leg press tomorrow. Like, literally physically move it out of my body because we make a lot, we assign a lot of things to our mind. And it's like, oh, my mind needs to work this out. And if you let the body handle it, a lot of that resistance just goes away. Or I'll go on a walk, like I'll be, I'll have a midday lull and I will start to feel that like, oh my gosh, I'm tired and I'm like overwhelmed and I don't have the same energy as I had this morning, for example. And it's like, ooh, let me go for a walk, let me recharge my energy so I can stay here. Movement is really helpful for me in that way. And then doubling that up with self-talk. So that's how I stay in the quantum leap is I name what I'm feeling and then I empower myself. This is usually what's going on during the walk, is I'm like, okay, maybe I feel overwhelmed today. The calendar is packed today. I didn't expect this to happen today. Like, I'm honest with myself about what's going on because a lot of people will just like slap positivity on it and never look at it again. So I like, I just name it and I'm like, ooh, okay, I can tell that that's adding some pressure, but I know where I'm going. I know I can handle this. What if this is like how my brain works. I'll be like, well, what if this wasn't actually pressure? What if this is an invitation for you to just handle something and not have mental drama around it? Like, what if it's just something to handle? You don't have to add the emotion of pressure. And then I'm like, oh yeah, like why was I adding pressure? I'm not gonna do that anymore. So, like my self-talks at a very high level where I can talk myself off of those moments when I want to just take a nap, give up, flop over. It's like, no, okay, we can do this, we can push through. And when I'm my biggest cheerleader, I know I can get to the other side. So those are like my daily, weekly processes. It's like movement for sure, and then making sure the self-talk is supporting where I'm going. Because a lot of people talk themselves into failure. They like want to cushion the fall and they're betting on their own downfall, essentially. And I'm just betting on me winning all of the time. And my self-talk shows you that. Like if you were to peek in my brain, you'd be like, yeah, okay, it's very clear where Michaela's going. And I like to think about it in that way.

SPEAKER_01

Those are great actionable tips that anyone who's listening can take with them to hopefully start getting in that quantum leap energy. So I love that. And Michaela, I could just ask you questions for the rest of my life.

SPEAKER_00

We could just rally an eight-hour podcast episode.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, you are so easy to talk to and such a good guest. So thank you so much. And I just have a couple of final questions as we wrap up. So, one question I ask all of my guests is what's something you are manifesting right now?

SPEAKER_00

A Lamborghini. The love of my bougie manifestation part of me. I have wanted a Lamborghini Urus since the day Lamborghini put it out years and years and years and years ago. And this is one of those manifestations for me that I'm like, oh yeah, one of those things I thought I would have had already, or it's something that's been on my mind to manifest for a really long time. And I don't have it yet. I have two of my other dream cars. So I'm like, okay, we've got a good track record. So the belief is there. And so that's something that I'm manifesting this year, is officially getting my Lamborghini Urus. I want a yellow one, black interior, yellow stitching. It's gonna be insane. So that's what I'm manifesting right now. My beautiful Lambo.

SPEAKER_01

Awesome. Well, I know you're gonna get it. Can I ask out of curiosity, how much is that car?

SPEAKER_00

If you're getting it straight out of the dealership, 250,000, just like base model. It doesn't mat mean that obviously you can add you can add in your extra things, make it more expensive. You can get a used one, get it cheaper, but quarter of a milli. Wow, that's crazy. I love to see it. Yes, exactly. I'm like, okay, that's the vibe that I want to have. Also, I'm 28 years old. So I'm like, a 28-year-old pulling up to Trader Joe's, like my little coffee and my workout outfit and my Lamborghini. I'm like, that is the vibe. And then I walk into Trader Joe's and I'm like the nicest human you've ever met. Like, and like the most warm person who's just here to cheer you on. Like, that is the exact vision. That is the vibe. Yes.

SPEAKER_01

And people are probably gonna be like, oh, either trust fund baby or rich housewife. And you're like, no, bitch, this is me.

SPEAKER_00

Like, this is all me. Just come on, sit down, join one of my programs, and your life will be better and you'll understand.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly. So, where can everyone find connect with you? And also, do you have any offers going on right now that you want to chat about?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so you can come hang out with me over on Instagram or on TikTok. I'm at the Michaela J on both. Come listen to my podcast. It is a good time. If you want a little manifestation marines vibe, then that's gonna be me. My podcast is Mindset Magic and Manifestation Podcast. You can find it anywhere and everywhere. YouTube, I'm Michaela J. You'll find me on all the places. And if you want to dive deeper with me into the manifestation magic, my signature program, mindset magic, and manifestation method is going to be the one for you. And we are redoing the whole program. We're doing a fresh set, brand new program this year. This is something I've sold since my very first year in business of my manifestation process. I've had hundreds of women go through this. So if you want to go deeper with me on the mindset, on the manifesting, on the quantum leaping, that's gonna be your home.

SPEAKER_01

Perfect. Well, thank you so much, Michaela. You have been incredible. I know my guests are going to freak out over this episode. Okay. So thank you so much. And I will see everyone next week.