How to Add More Whimsy to Your Life

Episode 40: Life is too short to take everything so seriously. In this episode, I’m talking all about how to add more whimsy to your life and bring back a sense of play, magic, creativity, and joy to your everyday routines.

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Hello and welcome back to another episode of the podcast. I feel like whimsy is really having a moment right now on the internet. When I log into my Instagram app, I am seeing tons of reels and carousels all about how to add more whimsy to your life, how to be more whimsical, things like that. And if you don't know what whimsy is, it's basically just an imaginative way of thinking or behaving. And it's not done through logic. It's through unpredictable bursts of joy. And at its core, whimsy is playful and can kind of seem childlike. It's spontaneous and happens just because, not for any specific reason, and it can be quirky or eccentric. As someone who can be obsessed with productivity and ambition and reaching and striving and doing better, I've been feeling like I need more whimsy in my life lately. Whimsy does a great job of making her life feel less rigid and less predictable, and like the ordinary moments are more special. So I thought it would be fun today to do an episode all about how to add more whimsy to your life. We are going to get into that and make sure to stay tuned until the end of the episode where I have an important announcement. Welcome to where the woo meets the work. I'm your host, Kayla. It's time to get out of your head, into your soul, and do the work that lights you up so you can align with your highest self and actually create the life you've been dreaming about. How do we add more whimsy into our lives that way we can start sparking joy, stop being so obsessed with our rigid, productive schedules, and just have more of a good time? I think the first thing to keep in mind when you're trying to live a more whimsical life is to stop trying to be cool. Maybe you think you don't try to be cool, but perhaps along the way, maybe in school or something like that, you started to develop this perspective that to be an adult or to be a cool person, you can't nerd out over stuff that you actually enjoy. If you don't feel like that, amazing. I'm happy for you. But I know that sometimes I've felt this way before, where I feel like liking childish things or doing things that I used to like doing as a kid is immature and maybe not worth the time. But as I am growing older and healing my inner child, I'm realizing that this is totally not true. It's okay to be nerdy. It's okay to nerd out over stuff that you like and to enjoy it and to not care if anyone else likes the things that you like. Some things that I actually like that I'm learning to be okay with and not being concerned about looking cool to other people, is one, collecting Pokemon again. I used to collect Pokemon cards as a kid, and then I think when I got into middle school, maybe high school, I don't remember, I got rid of them, which I'm totally kicking myself for now because I bet they're worth so much money. But my brother, my younger brother, who's 16 years younger than me, he's really into Pokemon cards. So now we are collecting them together. And this is not something I would do on my own because I don't love Pokemon by myself, but it's something that he loves and it's something that we can do together, which is really fun. I'm also slightly getting into plushies again. I think all of us probably loved plushies as a child. I don't know one kid who didn't like stuffed animals. But as I got older, I definitely thought that stuffed animals were for children and that I shouldn't like stuffed animals because I am a woman and women don't need to collect stuffed animals, especially as a child-free woman. I don't have kids, so why would I be doing that? But now, as I'm thinking, I'm like, you know, if I like something, I should be able to have that thing. I should be able to enjoy it. Who cares what other people think? And I don't think I'm going to have a giant plushie collection, but I did buy one plushie because I thought it was really cute and I thought that it kind of represented me. I was looking at Target and I saw this little matcha plushie, and it was $5, super cute, and I bought it and I put it on my bookshelf. Its little legs just dangle off the bookshelf, and it is so cute. So I'm glad that I did that. And I also do have a few plushies that I have kept that have sentimental meaning to me, but they are tucked away in my closet on the very top shelf so that way no one could see them. But now I'm like, you know, if I want to, I can bring them out. Who cares? So those are just a couple examples of me no longer worrying about trying to be cool and being okay with maybe seeming nerdy or childish to other people because it really doesn't matter. It's not that serious. For you, it could be something like reading smut. I know I have a friend who one time she was telling me how many books she read in a year, and it was a ton. She read like 72 books or something. But then she put herself down and she's like, Well, they were all smut books, so it doesn't really count. And I'm like, girl, that counts. You read 72 books, like, don't apologize. So something like that. It seemed like maybe she felt like she couldn't nerd out about that because I don't know, society doesn't think smut is real literature. But that could be an example. Maybe you like playing Dungeons and Dragons, or maybe you like painting little figurines. Whatever it is, just don't apologize for it. Know that it is okay to love whatever you love. Related to this, another way to make your life more whimsical is to watch movies or shows that you enjoyed as a child. Something that I used to be very embarrassed about for some reason is this TV show that I absolutely love. It is called Inuyasha. It is an animated show and it's for adults, it's not for children, but I know that a lot of adults don't understand that and they think that if it's an animated show, it must only be for kids, which is not the case. But I remember loving this show in high school, and it came on pretty late on Adult Swim on Cartoon Network. So I would have to stay up late for it because this was before streaming. And I remember just loving it so much. But I didn't tell anyone about it because one, I don't know, it's an anime, so I felt like people would think I was being too Asian or something. I don't know, it was a weird thought. And I just didn't want people to judge me for it. But funny thing was that I had a really good friend in high school, and somehow she brought up the topic of Inuyasha and told me that she loved that show. And I said, Oh my gosh, me too. And we both laughed because we hadn't told anyone and it was this secret. But I wonder if we had told each other about this earlier, it's something we could have watched together, it's something we could have nerded out together on. So yeah, don't keep these things a secret. Or do maybe if you just want to watch them in secret, that's fine too. As long as you're enjoying them and watching them, that's the main point. But yeah, if maybe you like Pixar movies or Disney movies, which I also love, I think they are all amazing and I think they're for everyone of every age. I was thinking about too how I have this other friend who recently told me at Christmas time that she only watches the Barbie Nutcracker movie when her child wants to watch it, but that she's very excited whenever her kid wants to watch it because she loves it too. And if you haven't seen the Barbie Nutcracker, it's really good. I have not seen it since I was a child, and I honestly should watch it again to see if it still holds up for me. But it was so fun. I really loved it. But I was just thinking about that, how she only feels like she can watch it when her small child wants to watch it. And while that's totally understandable, it's sad when you think about it because we are just depriving ourselves these moments of joy and whimsy because society tells us that we are too old for it. The next way you can add more whimsy is to celebrate minor holidays. I got this idea from author Gretchen Rubin. She would do things like dye milk green for St. Patrick's Day and cut food in the shape of hearts for Valentine's Day. I remember her talking about this on her podcast. It's called Happier with Gretchen Rubin. Super good podcast. Highly recommend checking it out. But I love this idea because the big holidays like Christmas or Halloween usually get all the hype and they should get hype. But how fun would it be to also celebrate the smaller holidays and just little ways? You don't have to do crazy big things for them. But this is something that I definitely want to start doing. One year for my brother's birthday, I bought Easter themed plates and napkins because his favorite holiday is Easter and his birthday is right around Easter time. And that made it so much more special, much more fun for him. So this is something I want to do for every little holiday if I remember to do it. I think it's a great idea to try to put in your calendar and do something a little bit special, especially when presents aren't involved, because you don't need presents for every holiday. We can also add more whimsy to our life through dopamine dressing. I've been seeing this trend on the internet and I love it. Basically, dopamine dressing just means dressing in a way that gives you dopamine. So dressing in a way that makes you feel good, that makes you happy. For me right now, my dopamine dressing looks like wearing brighter colors because normally I kind of wear neutrals, tans, browns, creams, things like that because I think that they're easier to style. They always look good. They don't go out of style. But I think wearing brighter colors, especially in the springtime, has just been making me feel happier. It makes me feel like my personality is being reflected more too. So I'm wearing brighter colors. I also just bought some jelly shoes, which that in itself is so whimsical. I used to have jelly shoes when I was very small. If you know what I'm talking about, they're like plastic, sparkly shoes, and they are so cute. So I found some on Amazon. They were like $30. Then it just brings me back to my childhood. I'm also having fun with accessorizing. I got some strawberry earrings, some flower earrings. I have really fun socks. I feel like socks are such a great way to have some dopamine being put into the way that you dress because it can be kind of understated and like a little surprise where maybe you're not comfortable yet wearing something crazy or eccentric or something that you normally wouldn't. Just start with socks because you can put them in your shoes. No one's gonna see them, but you know that you're wearing them and it just makes your day a little bit more fun. As you guys know, I am in the wedding industry, going back to it at least. And I love when I see a groom who is wearing fun socks. Like they're wearing this super serious tux or suit, but then they pull up their pant leg and boom, some crazy socks. So that is the vibe for dopamine dressing. And I know it can be nice to have a signature style. I mean, I honestly don't have one yet. I have not found my signature style, and I think that's related to not feeling super confident in my body. I don't really want to invest in expensive clothing when I don't know what that style is going to look like yet. But if you have found your signature style, amazing, happy for you. But sometimes, maybe even if you have found that, it can be fun to have a number of styles. Some days I want to look like I'm a coastal girl at the beach, other days I want to look like I'm a 70s hippie chick. And then some days I want to look business casual. So I think that that can be a part of dopamine dressing too, is just dressing differently every day depending on what your mood is. Next up for creating whimsy in your life is starting a collection of something. It could be crystals, snow globes, essential oils, whatever you are into, just starting a collection of something can be really fun and a way to have more whimsy in your life. One thing that I've been seeing on the internet that some people have is this Lennox Spice Village. It's basically like these little houses that hold your spices, like they're little spice jars in the shape of houses, which are so cute. You can just Google it and you'll see what I'm talking about. It is expensive. It's like 300 bucks for a whole set, but they are super nice. I also don't think it would match the aesthetic of my home, but it is something whimsical. So that's what I mean about starting a collection of something. That could be a great collection. But for me, my ultimate collection that I love collecting, always will, are books and journals. These two things will never go out of style for me. I can never have enough of them. Even if I haven't read all the ones that I am buying, I still want more. This leads me into my next tip, which is to dedicate a corner of your home to display things that bring you joy. So I'm thinking here, dedicating a corner to a collection. For me, with books, I'm eventually going to have a type of reading nook in my downstairs area, which I'm excited about. I think I told you guys about this already. But I just think it's so special to have an area of your home where you can display something that you are interested in. And I think it really reflects your personality in your home. For my husband, it is Golden Knights hockey team and Star Wars. He loves to display that kind of stuff. And thankfully he keeps it mostly to his own areas, which is good because those are not really my thing. I also have a friend who made a self-love altar, which I find interesting. That's kind of in the same line as this, where you're dedicating a corner of your home to display something that you enjoy. I think it's a cute idea to have an altar where maybe you have a photo of your younger self and maybe some things you're proud of, maybe your diploma or a certificate that you earned, or the first $20 you ever made, whatever it is. Okay, so I also have some other whimsical tips specifically for your home that I'm going to go over. All right, the first one is turn your kitchen into your favorite restaurant. I saw a reel recently where this girl made a cute menu for her kitchen. It's almost, I think, like a board or something that she put on her wall. And then she wrote in really pretty writing the menu for that week, which was adorable. And you could name your kitchen restaurant, you could make physical paper menus to hand out, and you could have people over. Sometimes cooking is not the most fun thing in the world, but if you think of your kitchen as more of your favorite restaurant, I think that is just a much more fun and whimsical way to cook. Another thing you could do around your house is you could put up fairy lights. I think fairy lights can add so much whimsy, but if you're not into this, another one that could be really cool is if you've heard or seen of that window cling, I think that's what it's called. And basically it just adheres to your window, it sticks to your window. And then when the sun shines in, it makes this really pretty rainbow look in your room. I think that is awesome. I would love to do that somewhere. Or maybe you could put up a disco ball planter. I've seen those. And then when the sun hits that, it also makes a really cool pattern in your room. You could also light candles at dinner, super whimsical, instead of just having your overhead lights on. Puts you more in the mood for a romantic dinner. Even if it's just you, light those candles, make dinner feel more special. Another thing you could do is you could make a mini fairy door for some part of your home or in your garden. The last time that I was visiting Portland, I saw a mini fairy door and garden on the side of a bookstore. And it was so cute. It was just this tiny little thing that probably most people walk by and don't even notice. But my friend and I looked and we noticed it and it was adorable. There were little gnomes and little fairy creatures that they put there. And that's definitely something you could do in your garden. Or I also saw one of my friends did this in her home. So she just painted and made this little door that opened on her wall for her daughter. So it's really tiny. You would probably miss it as well if you weren't looking for it. But yeah, just basically hidden little surprises, I think, can make your home feel so much more whimsical. The last one I have for your home is to see cleaning your home or organizing as a way to redecorate. Instead of seeing cleaning or organizing as annoying or a chore, you can view it as a way to redecorate your home. And when you rearrange things, your space can feel totally new. Another way to make your life more whimsical is to live more seasonally. This doesn't just have to be with purchasing things or decorating for things, but I do think that decorating for the seasons can be really fun. I do this with Christmas specifically. I love decorating for Christmas, having the tree out, the ornaments up, all of that. But it doesn't just have to be holiday related. You can decorate depending on what the season is. So for spring, perhaps, maybe you are changing out your sheets and your pillows or your tablecloth and napkins for spring ones. I personally don't do this, but I think that this could be a fun idea. I honestly don't want a ton of decorations for every season or holiday because it just seems like more stuff that I don't want. But it could be as simple as doing things like filling a vase that you already have with spring flowers. That way you're getting the season in your home, but it's not going to stay there forever. You could create a spring playlist. You could rotate your hand soaps and your candles to match spring vibes. And that way, when you replace them, you will eventually take back the soaps that you already have, just depending on the season, you know? You could also change your desktop and your wallpaper on your phone to match the spring vibe. And you could also eat foods that are in season now. I think living more seasonally is a great way to add more whimsy to your life because it's really helping you get in touch with the present moment, getting in touch with what life is like right now, and also seeing life in a new way instead of in the same boring, monotonous way that it may appear to be. But it's also not difficult. It's something easy that you can do, just tiny little adjustments, little things that are going to make your life a little better. Speaking of your life being boring, if it is feeling like that, a good way to add more whimsy is to add novelty to your everyday, or what I like to call going on side quests. If you play video games or have ever played video games, you know what I'm talking about. It's not the main quest, but you are going on a little side quest, a little side journey. So I want you to think of this in your day-to-day life as well to add more whimsy. Maybe you go to the same Trader Joe's for groceries every week, or you go to the same coffee shop, or you go to the same park with your kids to play. Try a new location. Try a different grocery store, a different coffee shop, a different park. Take a different path for your daily walk. Take a different route to work. Listen to new music or a new podcast on your commute to work. Ask a different friend to go with you to the park. Try to spice up your life by going on new side quests instead of just doing the things that you have always done. Another one I have for you is to stop saving your nice things for special occasions. I'm talking about clothes, jewelry, perfume, plates, whatever it is. I think that we are all guilty of this. For me, it is often wearing the same old t-shirts instead of wearing the nice newer ones I have because I'm waiting for some unknown reason to wear them, even though I bought them, and that should be the occasion, is that I own them. Or sometimes maybe with perfume. I don't feel like I need to wear perfume every day, or I have a special perfume that I only want to wear on special occasions. And I do think that there is something joyful about saving things for special occasions. And when we use the thing when it's special, that feels good too. I mean, that can feel special. At the same time, I think that there is more joy in letting every day be special. I don't think that there's any reason why we need to be saving things for special occasions, unless it's something so precious that you would be devastated if anything happened to it, like a family heirloom or something that your grandma or a loved one gave to you before they died. That I can totally understand. But if it's not like that, if it's something that you can actually replace, then I think use it up. When I think of whimsy, I also think of finding glimmers. If you've never heard of glimmers, it basically just means finding a micro moment that sparks joy. For me, a big glimmer is when I go on a walk and I see a hummingbird. It just instantly makes me smile, makes me feel like I'm going to have a lucky day, and I love seeing them. I also feel a glimmer whenever I get a matcha and it tastes just right, not too sweet, not too earthy, or when I go to the grocery store and I'm standing in line and there's a child in front of me and they smile at me, that gives me a little glimmer. None of these things are huge and they're not meant to be. Glimmers are supposed to be small little moments that make you feel good, almost kind of like a wink from the universe, like, hey girl, I see you, I'm thinking of you. That's how it makes me feel. So try to find glimmers in your day-to-day. Like, what are these little moments that are sparking joy for you that make you feel a little bit better? Looking for those is definitely going to help you find more whimsy. And something I did last year, I think it was, it might have been the year before, I don't remember, but I Wrote down one thing, one memory that happened every week that made me happy. It could be big, it could be small, and then I folded it into a little piece of paper and I put it into a jar. And then at the end of the year, I had 52 happy little memories to look back on. So this is kind of similar to glimmers. You could write down your glimmers, you could put them in a jar, you could do what I just explained. But another thing I was thinking of related to this is I was thinking of creating a core memory jar. So you don't have to do this as you go in life. It can literally just be reminiscing on core memories from the past that you don't want to forget and that you would love to be reminded of randomly. So maybe it's just sitting down and thinking of those right now and writing them on little sticky notes and putting them in a jar. I feel like that is such a fun way to have more whimsy in your life, too. Another little whimsical thing you could do would be to add a signature to your personal email or to your text messages. I know a lot of us have a professional email signature for our work emails. Mine's pretty boring. It's just like Kayla Bowen, wedding photographer, blah, blah, blah. But I thought it would be fun and whimsical to have a personal, whimsical signature. So mine could be something like probably drinking a matcha, Kayla. But some other fun ones that I thought of could be yours in great haste, Lady Kayla of the desert, or until the next moon, Kayla, mother of British short hairs. So you see, those are super silly, super weird, right? But that's part of it. That's part of being whimsical is leaning into your inner child, being silly, being goofy, and not worrying what other people are going to think about it. So maybe I'm going to start adding those onto my text messages. We will see. If you think of a fun one, I would love to hear it. Another whimsical thing I love to do is called side-by-side play. I learned this term from one of our neighbors who is a psychiatrist. She said that her kids love to do side-by-side play, and apparently this is common with autistic children, which I didn't know. And I'm not autistic, and my husband isn't autistic. At least I don't think that we are. We've never been diagnosed. But this is something that I like to do with my husband or with my friends. And basically, it's just where you are doing something, you're working on something, but you like doing that next to someone who is also working on something separately. So side by side play. It I think probably got that name from children who like to play their own thing, like to do their own thing next to other kids doing their own thing. I feel like it totally makes sense that I like to do this because I was primarily raised as an only child because my brother wasn't born until I was 16. So I was really used to playing by myself. As an adult, I still like to do things on my own, but I enjoy doing them when I'm next to someone as well. For me, that could be working on a craft while my husband plays video games or watches sports, something like that. I also love to do this with friends, and I've actually been thinking about how I want to do a crafter noon where I invite a number of girlfriends over, and then we each just work on our own craft. So it's basically like a giant side-by-side play. And I was thinking about this because I have been getting more into crafting and I want some type of community group. I was thinking originally that I wanted to start a book club, but I only read nonfiction. So that would be pretty specific. So I'd have to find other girlies in the Las Vegas area that only want to read nonfiction. But I also feel like sometimes there's resistance to a book club or falling off from a book club because people don't read the book and then they feel like they can't come. So I was thinking, hmm, what could foster that same sense of community and that feeling, but without the pressure? A craft club could be really fun where people just bring their own thing. It could be as simple as coloring or as complicated as crocheting a blanket, and they bring their own thing and then we just do them all together at the same time. That was kind of a rant, but I wanted to share that with you just in case it sparks anything for you. I also think that thrifting is a great way to add more whimsy to your life. I think thrifting in general is just so much fun without even having to buy anything. If you just go into an antique store or a secondhand store, you're going to see so many unique things and probably find some treasures when you're there too. The other day I needed to get a basket because my friend just had surgery and I want to build her a little get well basket. And I was thinking how goodwill usually has baskets for pretty inexpensive. So why not go there and find a nice basket to fit all of her stuff in without having to spend $20? And boom, I walked in and already in my mind I was like, okay, need a basket this size for $5. I found it, got it, it was great. And building a basket is so much more whimsical than putting all of her stuff in a gift bag. But even if you're not looking for a friend and you're looking for yourself, I feel like there are so many ways to make thrifting add to your life and add to the whimsy of your life because you can find things for your collection, whatever it is that you're collecting. I'm sure you can find things there from thrifting. You can find clothes that represent your personal style, or even just the act of looking at things, touching things, examining things, I think can be whimsical and really add to your life, and you don't even need to buy anything. All right, I have a few more, which is kind of crazy. This episode is going a little longer than I thought because I have a lot of tips for ways to add more whimsy to your life. So these last ones all fall under the category of elevating things that you use every day. As an example, some of us use highlighters or pens or erasers. So something I've done to make that experience more whimsical is I found some sparkly highlighters, which are awesome. I'm using gel pens again because who remembers gel pens? They were all a rage when I was little, and for good reason. They're fun to use, they're more exciting, they're prettier. And I've also bought erasers in the shape of animals, like how I used to have when I was in elementary school. I just think it's more fun, you know? That's basically the whole reason is it's more fun to have sparkly highlighters, colorful pens, animal-shaped things, and life should be fun when it can. There are so many situations when life cannot be fun that I feel like we should be trying to make it as enjoyable as possible when we can control it. Related to this, I think when you can personalize something, that also adds so much whimsy. I have a Stanley cup, for instance, that says cat mom on it that I got from Etsy, instead of just having a plain Stanley cup. And I also just ordered a personalized license plate for my car that I'm so excited about that says cat mom. I cannot wait to get it, you guys. It's gonna be so cute and it's gonna match my cup. So that's cool. When we have personalized things, I think it makes us feel like our personality is really shining through more. Like we are expressing ourselves, letting the world know what we're about, even if it's just a little piece of us. To elevate my everyday, I also recently bought some fun-shaped food cutters. I haven't used them yet, but I plan on cutting my fruit with these cute little food cutters. I also bought some rainbow star sprinkles to put on some food items because I want to start baking. That's something I really want to do, but I haven't done yet. So I'm hoping eventually to have some time to do that. And that's when those sprinkles are gonna come out. I've also seen people use edible flower petals. That is so whimsical. I don't know where to get those, but if you do, full send. I'm also writing my to-do list on a cute notepad instead of in my notes app in my phone like I normally would. I got this notepad that says my tay do list and it has Taylor Swift on it. If you're a Swifty, you know what I'm talking about. And I also elevate my everyday by pouring my drinks into a fancy glass. I have some really pretty wine glasses that I like, and I drink diet soda every day, but it feels a little more elevated and special when I pour it into a fancy glass. And thankfully, they are dishwasher safe, so I don't have to worry about that. My very last tip for you for elevating things you use every day and making your life more whimsical is if you have a pet, personalize their space. I saw a photo on Pinterest, I think it was, of someone putting art at their cat's level, like around their litter box, which I thought was really cute. And you could do this if you have a dog, you could do it like if they have a bed in a certain area, put little picture frames or little paintings, small ones that would be the size for them, put them on the wall, behind their little bed, or on the wall, behind the cat litter box, something like that to make it look like it's their space. I think that is so cute. The only reason I haven't done it is because I'm worried that my cat would knock the pictures off into her cat box and that would just suck. But if you're not worried about that, I think that could be a great way to make their space and yours more whimsical. Wow. That was honestly a ton of tips about how to make your life more whimsical. Kind of proud of myself that I came up with all that, because that's a lot. And I have been outlining this for a bit, so I've been kind of collecting thoughts over time. So that's how that happened. But yeah, I hope that you try out some of those and that they resonated with you. I just think life is too short to be so serious all the time. I definitely get caught up in that sometimes. I get caught up in the hustle and the grind. And I do think it's important. I think there are times to be hustling and grinding, otherwise, we might just never get anywhere in life or it will take us a very long time. But I also think that there are times for rest, and I think that we can infuse and incorporate whimsy into our life at all times because it doesn't take that much effort. It just takes a little bit of extra planning, a little bit of looking where we normally don't look, and putting in extra effort into ourselves and into our lives because we are worth it. Now I want to tell you guys about my little announcement. So I've been thinking about this for a tiny bit, but I've decided that I am going to be taking a break from the podcast. I hope that this is not forever. I hope it is just for the summer, just for the next couple of months. But the reason for this is because, as you know, as I have shared, I am going back to wedding photography and it has been really great, actually. I'm actually really excited about it and it's going well, but it's a lot of work. It is a lot of work restarting a business and it is taking most of my time. Plus, I'm going to Europe this summer and I am actively planning that trip. We do not have a travel agent, so I am planning everything, and that is taking a lot of work as we are going to three different countries. And I'm also trying to do things like focusing on my health, wanting to lose weight, which is like the freaking song of my life. I feel like I'm always talking about that. But there's just a lot going on, and this podcast takes a lot of time for me every week. Outlining, recording, editing. And right now, I just have other things that I really need to focus on. So yeah, wanted to let you guys know that. Didn't want to just ghost and have you wonder where I went. So I hope to be back in a few months, but we will see. Who knows where life will take me. Either way, if you have listened to this far, thank you so much for listening. And I'll see you when I see you.