Good Vibrations

From snow in March to sex toys in the 1800s, Jen and Dagda take you on a wild, NSFW tour of the history of vibrators and how a serious medical tool became a cultural lightning rod.

They start cozy and chaotic with:

• Mid-March snow in Washington, freak weather flashbacks from Fort Polk/JRTC, and base housing HVAC controlled by the post commander.
• Hot vs cold debates, shower science, and the surprising benefits of a year of daily cold showers.

Then they dive deep into vibrator history:

• Joseph Mortimer Granville's 1883 vibration machine for nerve disorders, "morbid irrationality," arthritis, tumors, digestion issues, and hysteria.
• Big belt-style torso shakers of the 1950s used for belly fat, backs, pelvic pain, and postpartum bodies.
• Old-school ads promising to cure dandruff, wrinkles, headaches, and more—by vibrating pretty much any body part.
• White Cross home units, pricey multi-attachment kits, and how mail-order catalogs quietly brought medical devices into people's bedrooms.
• 1920s erotic films, moral panics, and the moment society collectively realized: "Oh… this is a sex thing."
• John H. Tavill's 1968 patent for a cordless electric vibrator "for use on the human body," mainstreaming handheld, battery-powered pleasure.

Plus Jen's sex-shop war stories: chunky four-D-battery dinosaurs, ancient stock that finally sold, and customers who still wanted them turned down.

It's funny, filthy, historical, and surprisingly thoughtful about bodies, pleasure, and how culture polices both.

#podcast #sexpositive #sexhistory #GenX #NSFW

Artwork:RJA1988

Always a good time to be had...After Dark.

We truly enjoyed our time working on the brick and mortar side of the adult industry. We spent A LOT of time trying to satisfy and satiate many a curious mind while educating the 1st timers on some adult fun ideas!

We had a great employer who was not only the 1st fully licensed adult store in Washington , Momma D was the 1st FEMALE adult store owned in our state!

**Music: Burning Night by _NeutralMatrix_**

Transcript

Welcome

SPEAKER_02 0:05

Welcome to Everyday Life. This is our After Dark podcast. My name is Jen.

SPEAKER_00 0:11

And I'm Dagda.

SPEAKER_02 0:12

Here is your explicit content warning. The following episode includes adult language, content, and situations that is intended for entertainment purposes and mature audiences only. So sit back, relax, and take a listen. Ready for the journey, Dagda?

SPEAKER_00 0:31

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 0:32

All right, let's go. I'm gonna tell him you said that too. Go ahead. I'm like, dear bear, happy birthday, and we think you were double compensating. Love us.

SPEAKER_00 0:45

PS Old.

SPEAKER_02 0:46

Right, yeah, and P P S S. Get a real truck.

SPEAKER_00 0:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 0:52

Not a truck that wants to pretend to be a truck, but not really a truck.

SPEAKER_00 0:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 0:56

Which excuse me. The answer is yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:00

Yes, that is correct.

SPEAKER_02 1:01

All right. How are you doing today?

SPEAKER_00 1:04

I'm doing all right. How are you doing?

SPEAKER_02 1:06

I'm doing fine. I'm watching this snow. Uh, and so hopefully it'll be turning here to rain pretty soon. Uh, because I got shit to do today.

SPEAKER_01 1:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:16

I got shit to do later. Uh, but watching the snow, it's always weird. And then what's even more funny to me is when people go, Oh my god, we're mid-March and it's snowing in Washington. Listen, honey, in the history of time, we've gotten snow in May and June. Yeah. My dad told me a story about when he was a kid getting uh having snow around uh my aunt's birthday and everything, and they thought it was glorious, and they took out the hose from the house, and you know what hill they lived on, and spraying as much water as they could, and then watching the car that was his birthday present to my aunt, was them watching the cars try to slip on the go up the hill. Wow. Anyways, um, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:02

I mean, the first time when I was in the army, the very first time I went to JRTC Joint Readiness Training Center, which is at Fort Polk, Louisiana.

SPEAKER_02 2:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:11

Um, it was like in March, and I think it was in March. Anyway, it was early spring-ish time, right? And I got there and it was like 90 degrees out.

SPEAKER_01 2:26

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 2:27

Um, and then a cold front moved in, and within a couple hours the temperature dropped. It started fucking snowing, and then uh it warmed back up to like 80, and then it dropped down to 60 for the rest of the time we were there. It was like in the 50s and 60s and raining the rest of the time we were there.

SPEAKER_02 2:46

And your logical brain's going, what the fuck's happening?

SPEAKER_00 2:48

Yeah, like, what the fuck is actually happening?

SPEAKER_02 2:52

Right. Well, you know, it's it's literally like I literally can see it happening in my head, and all I see is that new SpongeBob thing a few hours later. A few hours is happening over here.

SPEAKER_00 3:03

So Yeah, first we're all sweaty and shit in the barracks waiting to offload con X's, and then it snows, and then everybody's outside playing football in the snow, and then it's fucking 90 degrees again. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:17

Nothing like having to take 15 minutes to get into warm clothes just to have to get into not as warm clothes, just a few hours later.

SPEAKER_00 3:27

Well, and like the base housing, I don't know if it's like this on all the bases, but Fort Bragg was like this, and so was Fort Polk. Um, they have a heating and cooling system that is centrally located and controlled by the post commander, effectively.

SPEAKER_02 3:46

Yeah, it's not like that on JBLM, I'll tell you that right now.

SPEAKER_00 3:48

They turn on the heat when they decide to turn on the heat, and they turn on the fucking air conditioner when they decide to heat.

SPEAKER_02 3:52

So are you talking about the actual base housing or are you talking about the barracks?

SPEAKER_00 3:56

Um I I assume it's both.

SPEAKER_02 4:00

Uh so the base housings are independently controlled here at JBLM. Uh and as far as the barracks go, uh, I think they're controlled room to room now.

SPEAKER_00 4:10

So you could so you could turn on the heater in your room or the air conditioner in your room.

SPEAKER_02 4:17

But it ain't gonna matter if they didn't say Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:20

And so you could turn it, you could turn up the heater cooling as you saw fit, but if the heater's on and it's 90 degrees out, regardless of what you do, the fucking thing is still radiating heat. It's not as much if you didn't turn it up. Um same thing with the air conditioner. It's not as cool if you didn't fucking turn it up.

SPEAKER_01 4:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:42

But when it's fucking 30 degrees out and the air conditioner is the only thing that's actually on in your room, uh, it's gonna be really cold in your room.

SPEAKER_02 4:50

Which, you know, like you're not opposed to, so.

SPEAKER_00 4:53

Yeah, I mean, I like I I would rather be cold than hot.

SPEAKER_02 4:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:58

Um, unless I'm intentionally getting hot, right?

SPEAKER_02 5:02

I think I would rather be.

SPEAKER_00 5:04

It's easier to compensate for a cold than it is to compensate for heat.

SPEAKER_02 5:09

See, and I think I'd rather be uncomfortably warm than cold because the sweat will sit on your skin and you can just fan your hands. You can just like you can wave it past in cars and cool yourself off.

SPEAKER_00 5:22

I mean, that's the wind. Partially depends upon the humidity at the end.

SPEAKER_02 5:26

Oh, yeah, that's that's a good factor. I'd rather just be comfortable all the time.

SPEAKER_00 5:30

There is that. I mean, there is advantages to intentionally getting too cold and too hot.

SPEAKER_02 5:39

Yeah.

The Science of Showers

SPEAKER_00 5:40

Um, your body's supposed to be able to adapt.

SPEAKER_02 5:43

But let me tell you something. My showers are at night, so I do not go full-on cold anymore because it wakes me up. And I need to be getting sleep shortly after my showers. And I do it in the morning, but I don't always have that kind of time.

SPEAKER_00 5:59

So full-on cold showers is nice, especially when it's hot out. Because then you can just take a full-on cold shower because your body wants to be within a certain temperature range when you fall asleep. Yeah. So it's easier to fall asleep when you're cooler than hotter.

SPEAKER_02 6:17

And so my old science teacher, R.A.P. Mr. Jensen, he we did a cloud in one of our classes, we did this little study about hot and cold and everything. So if you actually go in and take a hot uh shower as hot as you can stand for five minutes when it's hot outside and you get out, your body instantly wants to cool you, and it is very refreshing. And your body what has happened when I've done the reverse and done the cold, I felt hotter 15 minutes after getting out of a shower. So I I use Mr. Jensen's method. I'm good.

SPEAKER_00 6:49

I will say this the year that I took cold showers almost every single day. Basically, I took them every day except for Friday. Friday, I would take a hot shower.

SPEAKER_01 6:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:58

Um, that year, a couple things happened. Number one, I was comfortable pretty much no matter what the temperature was outside.

SPEAKER_02 7:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:08

Um, I rarely sweat during that year, and it was fucking like over a hundred degrees, which is uncommon here.

SPEAKER_02 7:16

Yeah, and we had lots of trips to eastern Washington too.

SPEAKER_00 7:19

Yeah. And then during the winter time, the same thing, the exact opposite. Well, the same thing happened. I was comfortable no matter how cold it was, and that year was unusually cold also during the winter.

SPEAKER_01 7:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:30

Um, and I started in the winter taking cold showers.

SPEAKER_02 7:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:34

Um which is kind of insane, but yeah. Fuck it, I'm just gonna do it.

SPEAKER_02 7:40

Fuck it all. So, anyways, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:43

Also, when you take cold showers, almost no matter what the temperature is, when you get out of the shower, it's a relief. Right? So if it's cold, you're like, well, it's still warmer than the shower was. That's true. And when it's hot, you get out and you're like, okay, I actually feel really good. The the the heat, I'm absorbing the heat now. Yeah. This is kind of nice, instead of being like, I'm too fucking hot.

SPEAKER_02 8:12

Right. Well, and I think everybody's body ther thermodynamics are obviously different. Excuse me, I've got the yawnies today, y'all. Sorry.

SPEAKER_00 8:21

Um, but stop getting up at one in the morning.

SPEAKER_02 8:24

Hey, this is because I got five hours sleep. Was it consistent? Yeah. I got a consistent five hour sleep, and when I woke up to get up to go to the bathroom, somebody was in the bathroom doing their business. And it's not, you know, it's not it's not like it was like a five-minute thing. It was like a long time in the bathroom, and it was just like, and in the meantime, so the longer I'm consciously aware I need to use the bathroom, and I'm doing the potty dance on bed.

SPEAKER_00 8:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 8:58

And then the minute I heard a door, I was up and running, and they were already out the door. I'm like, some bitch. Anyways. So we do this thing once a month. We generally do this thing, we've missed it once. Um, and that's the podcast cafe, and it's hosted by our local library. Or yeah, our a a nearby library. It's not actually local to us, but it's nearby. It's in our same city, right?

SPEAKER_00 9:21

I would consider that to still be local.

SPEAKER_02 9:24

Well, it's local, but it's not nearby. Nearby would be the one that's just four blocks away.

SPEAKER_00 9:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:30

Yeah. Um, but anyway, so we do this thing. It's called uh the podcast FA, and Mr. John hosts it. Hi, Mr. John.

SPEAKER_00 9:36

Hi, Mr. John.

SPEAKER_02 9:37

Um, and you're awesome. You are awesome. I mean, he cracks me up. He cracks me up because I think sometimes with because you use the Audacity program more, I think, you know, that sometimes he's like, What have you learned since what I haven't learned? Yeah. Or vice versa, which is really cool. Um, but anyways, we do this thing called the podcast cafe. And we met a couple of ladies there that were entertaining to say the least. They were very friendly, they were very entertaining, they were very sweet. The one was just on point with literally, she should be a stenographer, the way she was taking notes as everybody was talking. So we get together and we do this thing where we share how the progresses of our podcasts are going, how we celebrate our podcasts and all that kind of stuff. And um, the one gal, and forgive me, I don't use real names unless I have permission. Uh, anyways, and she was talking about the uh the fact that we have multiple podcasts. Yeah, and we do it because it kind of gives us outlets for multiple sides to our life, right?

SPEAKER_01 10:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:42

And so she loved the idea of this podcast of After Dark. Um, and it was funny because I never even thought about doing a history of vibrators. Because we've talked a little bit about it, but you know, it's it's like because they have such a shorter lifespan, they haven't really been in for uh for you and I, it's a long time, but in the history of the world, in the history of histories, it's only about a hundred years or so. It's yeah, it's literally riding that cusp on just about just about a hundred years.

SPEAKER_01 11:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:16

And like like legit, like 93 years. And so it didn't even dawn on me. But she said, Oh, I bet that's really interesting, the history of the vibrators. So I did some vibrator research, and that's gonna sound horrible, you dirty-minded motherfuckers, but uh I don't mean it that way. I mean I actually did some research.

SPEAKER_00 11:33

So online, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:35

Yeah, some online research, not independent study, not independent study, yeah, not practical, hands-on research. Although I will say that she was she was quite an interesting, so I'm gonna the subject matter which she spoke about that she had just had her first experience in, I actually do want to do a little research on that, yeah, because and I'm not gonna discuss it right this minute, but I do want to do some research on that because apparently that's a it's a traditional in some cultures, yeah, and then more uh more modern in other cultures, but it's supposed to be a very holistic thing. So I definitely want to do, but I mean, just having the words the the way she said it was just classic. It was just so great. Um, anyways,

The Podcast Cafe

SPEAKER_02 12:20

so do you know when the first vibrator was actually created?

SPEAKER_00 12:28

Um no. I was thinking actually that it was longer ago than a hundred years, now that I think about it, because the dude who um one of the guys who was credited with inventing the vibrator was the dude who was treating uh hysteria, and that was like in the Elizabethan era, so basically not long after electricity was discovered and they started actually Yeah, and and you're correct, I'm sorry, it's just over a hundred years old because me and math know worky today.

SPEAKER_01 13:07

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_02 13:08

So yeah, the 1800s. So it was actually created in the late 1800s. Um, so there's two sort sizes site sources.

SPEAKER_00 13:22

What the fuck? Sort slices.

SPEAKER_02 13:25

Listen, English is my first language, motherfucker. So, okay, so so we have two people that they're they're they're notating are the inventors. So over in Paris, France, in 1883, there is it 183? No, excuse me. In 1891, in in not Paris, France, in France. Uh brain urn.

SPEAKER_00 13:50

Jean-Luc Picard.

SPEAKER_02 13:51

No, his name was Romain Vigereux, and he was notated as the inventor in Paris, but it was used at a hospital. Um, so he's notated. However, before him, nah nah nah, in 1883, an English physician named Joseph Mortimer Granville actually had he'd already created a vibration machine, and in with and in conjunction with that vibration machine that he'd created and had been using, he wrote a book that was published in that same year, 1883.

SPEAKER_01 14:31

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 14:32

And the name of the book was Nerve Vibration and Excitation as agents in the treatment of functional disorder and organic diseases.

SPEAKER_00 14:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 14:45

So everybody kind of giggles a little bit when we talk about vibrators because automatically anymore it goes to a sexual connotation.

SPEAKER_00 15:00

Yeah. I mean, back in the 50s, they had those big fucking vibrators that um it was like a giant strap in your belly band vibrator. Yeah, and it would shake your torso basically.

SPEAKER_02 15:11

Yeah, it's to that one was to help stimulate your belly fat to burn, and it also was to help uh with uh malaligned backs and pelvic disorders. Because, you know, it's really, especially for women, when they actually have natural childbirth, it's you know, because your pelvic bones change, you're you're for women, we have it tough, man. Your pelvic bones start to open as you go through puberty, and then it happens again. And so when you've say you're a woman who's 30 given birth, and you've all of a sudden had your pelvic region change again, your gate, your walk is already set in stone. So you have to learn how to do it without pain. So that that's what that was for. Um it just kind of made me giggle because so I read through you a huge advertisement we'd found.

SPEAKER_01 16:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:05

And it was so hilarious. But it so vibrators were actually created in the late 1800s, and it was used as a medical device to help with primarily pain relief and for the treatment of quote various ailments. Um some of the marketing included saying, use on your scalp for headaches, uh, use on your stomach for indigestion. You got wrinkles, let them be gone. Use it on any wrinkly spot. So, and then you and I had actually read that advertisement, and my friend had dandruff, and with just three T treatments, his dandruff was caught.

SPEAKER_00 16:50

You shook the flakes off.

SPEAKER_02 16:52

Shook the flakes right out of that head.

SPEAKER_00 16:55

Although I do see potential validity because like increased blood circulation can be caused. Can you do that?

SPEAKER_02 17:02

Well, yeah, because dandruff isn't it caused by dry scalp.

SPEAKER_00 17:05

Um, well, I'm sure there's a number of different things that can cause it.

SPEAKER_02 17:09

Cooties.

SPEAKER_00 17:10

Not washing your hair frequently enough. Um but yeah, also like, yeah, poor circulation to your scalp could potentially cause it also. But yeah. Anyway.

SPEAKER_02 17:24

Well, just here's the hilarious thing to me, to be quite honest. So if you think about this history and what it's saying, all the good properties it's for, and it all comes down to proper blood circulation. Are we that lazy as a society that in the 1800 and 1900s we started out using vibration for proper circulation and to help with nerve damage and all of these things and dandruff control and hair regrowth? And now we rely on a pill for everything.

SPEAKER_00 17:51

I mean it's you know what?

SPEAKER_02 17:52

You don't need you don't you don't need pills. You just need to use a vibrator on your belly. You're like, bitch.

SPEAKER_00 18:00

It vibrates enough on its own.

SPEAKER_02 18:03

It's got its own frequency.

SPEAKER_00 18:05

Yeah. I mean, animals are innately lazy, right?

SPEAKER_02 18:17

Right. Well, yeah, we're all animals.

SPEAKER_00 18:19

Uh, because it you're going to default to try and conserve energy because you might need it later. Um it's natural really for humans to be lazy. Um, it's not to our benefit. I mean, there is some benefit to it, obviously it's a survival trait to fucking not want to expend excess energy.

SPEAKER_01 18:44

Sure.

New Inspriration

SPEAKER_00 18:45

Um, but at the same time, that's also counterproductive in that it causes problems if you're not active enough.

SPEAKER_02 18:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:54

Both physically and mentally. Um so I don't know. The also at that time they weren't as aware of these facts as what we are now. They weren't as aware of all the benefits of exercise.

SPEAKER_02 19:14

Uh well, yeah, because I mean life expectancy, like if you made it past 60, there was something amazing in your familial line. You know, but the average life expectancy, I think, in the mid-beginning to mid-1800s was like what, 55, maybe?

SPEAKER_00 19:32

Maybe something like that, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:33

I mean, it's crazy when we were kids, when we were younger, life expectancy, and I actually remember being in sixth grade, so that's many moons ago, but I was 12 years old when they were saying the life expectancy for men was 64 to 67, and for women was 68 to 60 or 66 to 69.

SPEAKER_01 19:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:52

And now they're expecting that if you can take care of your good heart health, life expectancy has now gone up by 10 years. Where they're saying, you know, for men, it's gonna be mid 70s, is gonna be the average life. For women, it's gonna be late 70s, which, excuse me, I'm gonna surpass that. Was actually having a conversation yesterday with somebody about life expectancy, but that's just a whole different conversation. Okay. Anyways, I want to get back to this because I found it hilarious. Because, and what struck me the most about this conversation about vibrators is they literally, because my brain started thinking, going, okay, that makes sense. Um, where in digestion you would want to put vibrations on your stomach because you know, either you're gonna vomit, you're gonna burp, or it's gonna pass on through and then you're gonna feel better. So it makes sense. And then headaches. I 100% have used uh medical grade wands on my neck for massive migraines um and neck pain and back pain, and you know, it's no different than massage therapy. Yeah, um, but what I thought was great was so Joseph Mortimer Granville? Ganville Granville, sorry, the Mortimer. I'm instantly dresdening in my brain, right? So I every time I say Mortimer, I'm seeing this skinny old body guy. What is a mortar? Um, anyways, so his book that he wrote, and he literally created his device based on the ideology that it was going to help with all these different medical conditions, up to include or including, but not limited to nerve disorders, morbid irrationality, indigestion, constipation, hysteria, which was the reason he made it. Uh-huh. Arthritis.

SPEAKER_00 21:52

His own arthritis from treating hysteria without a vibrator. Sorry, it was carpal tunnel.

SPEAKER_02 21:58

Yeah, there's a difference. Uh, inflammations and tumors. So that's where he sold his device as, right? And that's where he really marketed it as a physician. And a lot of it, when you actually think about it, makes sense because we have people who have scar tissue and damage from accidents. And we send them to massage therapy. And we, you know, we have people who, you know, we do heat therapy, cold therapy, massage therapy. So it makes sense. You know, if you can stimulate the blood flow around an area, it usually makes it happier.

SPEAKER_01 22:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:36

Um, so used to be a medical device thing only, right? So then they started marketing for it in late like 1898, I think it was that ad we read. So so in late, like the late 1890s, early 1900s, they started marketing for home use. And you could only get it through mail order, like not only through mail order, but predominantly mail order because these were pricey. Yeah, we were looking at the prices, and it's crazy that the primary unit was $5.95, and then each attachment was $1.35. Yeah. And it showed the complete kit, which would have meant buying every one of those attachments plus that, and that would have been like $200

A Medical Start

SPEAKER_02 23:20

to complete it, probably. Because there was like the home unit, and then there was like 20 or 20, like, yeah, there was like 20 attachments, yeah. Or 24 attachments or something, like not $200. Fuck. My brain sucks. Like $50, I think. I think I think in my head it was like 40 to 50 bucks. Because you also have to pay for the case for it. If you want the case, that's a whole different thing, too. Like that thing was like 10 bucks or something.

SPEAKER_00 23:43

Anyways, to put that in perspective, like a fan cost like three dollars. An electric fan. A pistol, a revolver. Sorry, because I don't think they even had pistols at that point. But yeah, revolvers. Actually, they did, but they were full-inlocked. But revolver would be like five dollars.

SPEAKER_02 24:01

Yeah, it was like five or six dollars. Yeah. And so you could get a light or a fan for for three to five dollars, depending on what type. Or if you were a big spender, you could get the fan and light combo for $8.50.

SPEAKER_00 24:15

A fan and light combo.

SPEAKER_02 24:16

Yeah, it was a fan and light combo. That was what was in the top right. You can see you can you can see the ad on uh Wikipedia if you go look up Vibrator. It's really it's really kind of neat. And it was just hilarious reading through all of those, all of those. Here's what our users say. Yeah. Like it was so great. Anyways, um, so the biggest brand at the beginning of it was a brand called White Cross. So White Cross brand was done, was a brand put out by the National Stamping and Electric Uh Works Company. That company uh was a Chicago-based company, and it was started in like like 1893. So early, you know, late 1800s, early 1900s. The company no longer exists. Obviously, it was bought, you wouldn't believe this, but it was bought in the 50s, uh, late 50s or 60s by Eureka, by your Eureka uh Electric Works, which is a China-based company that owns an American company now.

SPEAKER_00 25:21

Of course.

SPEAKER_02 25:22

We're not getting we're not getting into that. We're not getting into that. So, anyways, um, so White Cross brand, and that was actually what we read the ad on was a White Cross brand uh vibrator and whatnot.

SPEAKER_01 25:33

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 25:33

Um, so it the now the White Cross brand for the home distribution of these vibrators, the brand itself was around from 1907 to mid-1950s, so like 1954-55-ish, right?

SPEAKER_01 25:47

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 25:48

So here's where the transition happens, where it's going from being a medical device to other uses. So everybody's thinking it it's a medical device. It's widely, you know, it's like you could pick it up at a drugstore in a nicer neighborhood. You could pick it up at a drugstore. Yeah, mostly it was so obviously in the late 1800s it was done by mail order because hello, that's how everything was done.

SPEAKER_01 26:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:11

And then once like we do everything so backwards now. It used to be that they used to do these marketing tests and see what the threshold was going to be to see the popularity and see if it was worth carrying. Now they're just like, YOLO, stick it in your store, it'll work. So we do things backwards. So, anyways, in the 1920s, erotic films and pictures. Now, mind you, when we say that, because we've talked about like the very first porn movie and all that, a lot of people don't understand. There were things like Little Stag, but like as far as erotic films go, it was not necessarily bouncing, wow, wow, yeah, films. It could just be like a burlesque type show or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 26:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:58

But anyway, so they started showing up in these erotic films that they were that were done in like the 1920s. And of course, what always happens with things like that? The moral police says, Oh, I don't think so, honey.

SPEAKER_01 27:12

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:13

Oh, not today.

SPEAKER_00 27:16

So, of course, we want our daughters and wives to have hysteria.

SPEAKER_02 27:20

We want them to have irrata morbid irrationality. That's just um so so then people are going, oh, that's a sex thing. So why is it, and I'll never understand this, why it is, especially back then, moral police can kiss my butt. They they can go to their doctors. Most of these people were going to their doctors to be treated for hysteria or chronic vaginal irritation or vaginal tightness. There's a lot like these people who went for these hysteria treatments, for these orgasm treatments, had all kinds of reason tension, vaginal tightness. I don't think vaginal looseness is the nice way to say it, but you know, because when you do have a good orgasm, it does force you to automatically keegle, so which tightens up your vagina. But, anyways, your pelvic floor.

SPEAKER_00 28:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:17

Pelvic floor.

SPEAKER_00 28:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:19

Anyways, um, so then there's an outcry, oh, this is against this is obscene, this is obscene. So it goes back underground to where it becomes a mail order only kind of thing. Um and so it kind of goes hush hush, right? So then, so it's like pretty much from the mid, so like 1923-25 range to the late 1950s, early 1960s, it's a very hush-hush thing. It's mail order only, nobody's talking about it. Obviously, at this point, you know, doctors do their treatment when they need to, but we don't discuss it, right? So on June 30th of 1966, John H. Tavill applied for a patent. That patent was approved on March 28th, 1968, and the patent and item is called the cordless electric vibrator for use on the human body. And that right there is what gets the vibrator mainstream because it is very specifically marketed for any part of the human body. It's not set for one condition or the other. It is a cordless handheld device that can be used on the go anywhere you want. And I mean, this guy was like super smart because one, he didn't actually invent the vibrator, okay? The only thing he did was apply the science from corded, from hand crank, which we saw. Yeah, which from hand crank to corded to cordless.

SPEAKER_01 29:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:55

That's all he had to do was figure out how those, which is great because somebody else had already put the work into.

SPEAKER_00 29:59

And

Shake That Torso

SPEAKER_00 30:00

I mean, it's kind of like you go from the stool to the chair to the swivel chair to the rocking chair, all that. They're all chairs. Yep. Um, but each iteration of it is different enough to where it could be awarded its own um patent.

SPEAKER_02 30:18

Yeah. And and that's kind of the cool thing. It's like the ingenuity of Americans, I'm telling you. Be well, because the patent the patent process wasn't something that we had three, four hundred years ago.

SPEAKER_00 30:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:30

That's a more modern idea.

SPEAKER_00 30:31

Yeah, but I don't think I don't think the United States originated that.

SPEAKER_02 30:35

Oh, no, no, no, no. But that's why I'm saying here in the US, yeah. We haven't been doing, I think the patent's been around for like what, a hundred years maybe?

SPEAKER_00 30:44

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 30:44

I don't know. I'll have to do a research for an everyday life just because we're nerds and we know it. But, anyways, so this guy, so John H. Tavill, he he gets the approval for this patent and then he begins marketing and selling it. And then obviously, he has the right to sell the idea to other people. Smart, smart, smart man. So that's where we actually see what we know the vibrator as, not our parents' generation, not our grandparents' generation, what they know it as. Boomers in silent generation are still going to be remembering a lot of the oh, this is for hysteria. Especially the silent generation. Your grandma would probably be like, Oh, I see my doctor every other day. Sorry, that's not nice.

SPEAKER_00 31:29

No, I kind of doubt that she had that problem.

SPEAKER_02 31:31

No, because you said she was a looker and she had lots of friends that she liked.

SPEAKER_00 31:35

And my grandfather was a horny goat. I was talking about your Oh, okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:42

Your other one that you said the same thing.

SPEAKER_00 31:43

Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 31:44

Like the the just I wish they could have seen your face on that one because you like looked off into the distance like you just had an audible nightmare, and you were like, and my grandfather was a horny goat. Like you heard things you shouldn't hear. I just want to know if I can watch cartoons. Wow, that was so accurately said. Obviously.

SPEAKER_00 32:04

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 32:07

Go to get out of your fucking bedroom. Go back to your bedroom.

SPEAKER_00 32:12

Oh, they were, yes, go watch cartoons and shut the fuck up.

SPEAKER_02 32:17

Grandfather's like, you dirty little nutbuster.

SPEAKER_00 32:21

You fucking cockbucker.

SPEAKER_02 32:24

You dirty nutbuster. I got a better idea. Why don't you not watch cartoons and go out and feed the chickens? Go chop some wood, bitch. I feel like all those things have been said to you in your childhood.

SPEAKER_00 32:37

Uh, maybe.

SPEAKER_02 32:39

But you know, here's the thing about here's the thing about being born and growing and learning is you get to a certain age where you've had the experience and up, you're like, oh, I know that kind of noise. I know I need to go out and chop a quarter wood real quick. I'm going outside to chop wood.

SPEAKER_00 32:55

That reminds me of the the Viking show.

SPEAKER_02 32:58

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 33:00

And like Ragnar had just come home from being on a Viking, right? Yeah. And one of his friends was coming over to his house, and his son was standing outside. I don't remember his son's name, but anyway, the friend who's like, Where's your dad? He's like, they're in the house having sex. And he's like, they're in the house having sex. Like, oh my god, they're doing it again.

SPEAKER_02 33:29

Right. Well, and it's funny because that would be the perception of children is anytime dad's around, he's got to stick it to mom because your dad's going off on Viking raids and all this other shit. Yep. So he's not always there, but every time he's there, it's like, hey boy, go outside, I gotta peg your mom real quick.

SPEAKER_00 33:43

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 33:45

So, um, anyways.

SPEAKER_00 33:48

Time to take care of my husbandly duties.

SPEAKER_02 33:50

I feel like baby dagda. I feel like young dagda, seven, eight, nine-year-old dagda is so severely scarred for having a horny goat grandpa and a horny goat grandma. I feel like you're so scarred. Like, I just want a ball of sterile, shut the fuck up. I feel like your baby inside is so, so scarred. Poor guy. Anyways, so 1960s, 1968, the patent comes out, it starts being mass-produced, and it starts. Here's the interesting thing with the change in vibrators is obviously there's all different kinds of sizes, right? So not much changes other than the sizes, and it's like in the 70s, like the early 70s, you start getting the thrusting. So you get like the jackrabbits that come in. And I actually remember when I first started the shop, we still had we had at least one vibrator in that shop that had to have been from like circa before I was born or something. I don't know. Because it took four D batteries, yeah, yeah. And even four brand new D batteries, and you turn this thing on. I turned this thing on to demo it for an older lady. And I'm gonna say older lady because at that time she's probably the age I am now.

SPEAKER_00 35:12

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 35:12

So I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say a young-looking older lady. She was like, Oh, that's pretty fast. Can you turn it down? And it literally was going a chunka, a chunka, a chunka. Like, bitch, my fluid dried up and I'm barely ramming at home. I mean, I'm serious. But I sold it.

SPEAKER_00 35:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:33

And I remember Chuck going, Hey, where'd it go? You finally sold it? I thought we were gonna have that forever. I think we've already had it for 20 years. I'm like, well, it was 50% off. So, like, because it is so crazy because it was like $17.95 and then it was 50% off. And the lady still complained about the price.

SPEAKER_00 35:55

Was that the one that had the separate battery pack?

SPEAKER_02 35:58

Yes, with the like six-foot cord.

Limitless Miracles

SPEAKER_00 36:00

Yeah, curly Q cord.

SPEAKER_02 36:02

Yeah, and because you shoved it in and then you yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:06

I don't mean shove. I don't mean in. You can do whatever you'd like with your vibrator. I don't care. I don't know. Anyways, but yeah, but I sold that uh probably the first six months I was there. Chuck, I just remember Chuck laughing, going, Holy crap, we found this thing. And I'm like, and I sold her all the D batteries, too. It was the last D battery item we had.

SPEAKER_00 36:27

Finally got rid of those fucking D batteries.

SPEAKER_02 36:29

Well, and then Ding Ding, who used to be the in-between between Chuck and us, she ordered another pack of it. But I mean, I ended up selling all but like a dozen of those batteries. But I remember that was so annoying because Chuck was just like, why the fuck she ordered this? And I'm like, to waste mom's money, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 36:46

Same thing with nine volt batteries.

SPEAKER_02 36:49

Yeah, there's only, you know. Anyways, so so now we here we are in present-day time, and as we're getting here, so it became more and more popular to do like these wands. Wands became a huge thing in the early 2000s because people actually did start taking vibrators as we know them, as our generation knows them. We don't know them for massage properties. When we think about the massage therapies that we know now, uh, massage guns, listen, if massage guns had sex attachments to them, nobody would ever work outside their home again because it's like getting like like because I get migraines and because I will get with especially with my left hip, I will have issues. A couple years ago, my partner bought me an actual massage gun. I put it on the lowest setting, and my left hip had a bruise in 15 seconds. Cause like, you've seen Avengers Age of Ultron?

SPEAKER_00 38:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 38:02

Okay, and you see that part where Hulk goes crazy and Iron Man chases him down and standing there punching him over the repeatedly, go to sleep, go to sleep, go to sleep, go to sleep, go to sleep. Yeah, that's exactly what that did on level one. I literally was like ow, limped for a week, and I had a bruise for a week and a half. So the massage, so I'm you know Yeah, I've seen the massage guns. Um it's and it's crazy because you know, all these people doing like creating their own attachments for like drills and power cords and everything. I'm like, oh, the massage gun, if they actually made actual attachments for that.

SPEAKER_00 38:40

I'm sure they do.

SPEAKER_02 38:42

Maybe I've never found them because I had people asking for them. So I never found them.

SPEAKER_00 38:47

When you were when you had people asking for them too, though, that was fairly early in the massage gun thing.

SPEAKER_02 38:53

Yeah, that's true. So but now I get why some of those people were asking, and I'm just like, good.

SPEAKER_00 38:58

Well, it's the same thing with like the Hitachi Magic Wand, which was the original wand. Like as soon as that thing came out, people started using it for its unintended purpose. And of course, 10 minutes after that, they started making attachments for it.

SPEAKER_02 39:14

So yeah, like I don't even think it was ten minutes. I think it was like two minutes later. They're like, Well, we sold our first million units in five seconds.

SPEAKER_00 39:21

And then Hitachi didn't like the fact that people were using it for other than massages, and so they wouldn't sell it to people like us.

SPEAKER_02 39:31

Um I remember when we actually couldn't get the Hitachi anymore.

SPEAKER_00 39:34

Yeah. And then it lost its patent and people started fucking making knockoffs of it, and that was the end of that.

SPEAKER_02 39:43

Yeah, and and that's and that's how you play the game.

SPEAKER_00 39:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 39:46

You got you had a company that's just like, no, nobody can beat us. Well, you gotta pay attention to your patents, dummy.

SPEAKER_01 39:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 39:51

But when you take and you cut out 90% of your customer base, because really selling it as a mess a therapeutic massage device is like, look, that's great, but only certain generations are gonna look at it that way. Gen X and younger, for the most part, we're gonna be like, we gotta have dual purpose, okay? YOLO bitches.

SPEAKER_00 40:13

Yeah. Or more accurately, how can I make this work in my pants?

SPEAKER_02 40:18

Right? I, you know, I you know, it it's crazy because as I'm doing this research, right? So now there's things called pop dildos. Now, we've dealt with them before, but it was such a um niche thing. Well, they're called pop dildos, but these are like pop dildo vibrators now. So pop dildos are the squirting dongs.

SPEAKER_00 40:45

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 40:45

So, but now they make it vibrators. Now I just saw one.

SPEAKER_00 40:50

You take the same thing and add a vibrator to it. Done.

SPEAKER_02 40:53

Basically, yeah. But I just saw, here's the thing, I just saw one and I was just like, what in the hell? And it's called like a strap me on strap me on and make me come or something like that. Anyways, so it's a really interesting device because it's got it's a strap on that has a vibrator on the front, and it also has a hose that comes out and you control the squirt, squirt, squirt.

SPEAKER_00 41:15

Yeah, okay, right?

SPEAKER_02 41:16

So, and I remember we used to sell the squirting dildos a few times. Here's why it's become so popular. They always sold out to you. They did, not fast, but like steadily.

SPEAKER_00 41:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:27

And um, but they were so expensive.

SPEAKER_00 41:30

Yeah. It's like, jeez, but especially the more realistic ones.

SPEAKER_02 41:35

Oh, yeah, people don't understand. Well, there's this one that's like plastic, and they're yeah, it's a whole different feel. Like, yeah. So why it's become more popular in more recent years is because people are actually using that for at-home artificial disseminations. So you have same-sex couples that are that are using it. It's to bring

From Clinic to Catalogue

SPEAKER_02 42:00

it together. So think about that. Same-sex female couples trying, they have a donor who's willing to donate as much as possible, but they want to feel like it's especially the natural way.

SPEAKER_00 42:13

Let's do this correctly. No, we're using turkey paste. I'm not interested.

SPEAKER_02 42:23

So, so it's their way of forming yet another connection. You've got your donor there, they and then the women have their sexual intimacy, and you know, they use actual ejaculate material in these devices to help artificially inseminate. So, because we know that the most successful pregnancies, the most successful inseminations are when we're happy.

SPEAKER_00 42:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:45

So, you know, the more relaxed you are, the more stress-free you are, the more likely your pregnancy is to take.

SPEAKER_00 42:51

Yeah, if you have an orgasm, you're more likely to get pregnant.

SPEAKER_02 42:54

Yeah. Oh, and then if you like hang yourself like feet in the air. Yeah. Old wives' tale. There's good swimmers and there's lazy swimmers. Your swimmers, I think, are lazy. Because you're like, uh, I'll just get her a vibrator, it's fine. I have a toy box, pick a toy, any toy. So um, yeah, it's kind of interesting. The evolution is really interesting. And the the one thing that I was thinking was, man, COVID really sucked because it killed so much of our ability as humans to go out to go shop and compare things. We were forced to stay at home for months at a time, and we didn't have a choice but to gamble.

SPEAKER_01 43:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 43:39

So one of the things that happened during COVID with, and it's almost like a self sexual revolution happened because literally the studies show so many people had so much free time at home.

SPEAKER_00 43:52

They became gooners.

SPEAKER_02 43:57

They began exploring, and you need to think. About this, and you'll make you'll connect the dots here, real quick. They spent a lot more time exploring their own sexuality and sexual identity and sexual cravings.

SPEAKER_00 44:09

I'm gonna sue Fauci for turning me into a gooner. It's his fault.

SPEAKER_02 44:20

Anyways. So, but that's the thing with COVID. Because it allowed us, because it forced us to have this alone time. Because, you know, in some places, wherever you were, you were locked in for at least two weeks, if not two months.

SPEAKER_01 44:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:34

You have people who got divorced over it. You had people who got married over it. I mean, I actually seen a story a couple years ago of a third date couple were just like they both wanted to take this quick trip. They were gonna do a weekend trip down to Mexico or something and go celebrate. You know, they'd been friends for a long time and all this, and they got stuck down there for like three months and they're married now. You know, and then there's other people that were like, I could I realize that I had life ambitions that my spouse no longer had. I wanted to go out and explore the world and they want to stay protected. So, anyways, but with this boom of sexual self-discovery, also came these people who were starting to understand their sexual fluidity and all of those things, right? Yeah, so but last but not least, of our uh what do we call it, uh, research into the history. So there's still some places in the world where it's it's banned to sell vibrators outright, like India. You can't you can buy a you can have a vibrator home, but you can't buy it in India. You can only buy it like online or whatever. So I'm not sure how people do that. I'm oh, we're going to take a trip to England. We're going to go get the vibrator. Yay. I don't know. I don't know because I like did not want to do further research on it. Because to me, I mean, can you imagine can you imagine being in any of the sandy countries? Can you imagine being in Iran or Iraq trying to get a vibrator because you try not to you trying to like calm your hysteria down or something?

SPEAKER_00 46:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 46:15

I mean, it's crazy. It's crazy to think of like I other countries, second and third world countries, yes, I get it. But like first world countries, which isn't India considered a first world country because of their technology and their advancement and all that? I don't I mean they're overpopulated because they don't believe in birth control then.

SPEAKER_00 46:32

Well, it kind of depends upon which subgroup, because there's a shitload of different groups in India. It's not they're all they're not all the same. Um I think they're still considered a second world country.

SPEAKER_02 46:47

Almost third world, almost first world though.

SPEAKER_00 46:50

Maybe there's so much poverty there that it kind of makes it Oh, it's kind of like California.

SPEAKER_02 46:55

Okay, cool. I'm not even being a smart ass either.

SPEAKER_00 46:59

I'm being honest. They wish m most of the people in India wishes they were in the same situation as California was.

SPEAKER_02 47:05

Then California better quit bitching. Other than the prices of the rentals, I mean they should quit bitching.

SPEAKER_00 47:10

Yeah, the property prices have been retarded down there for a long time.

SPEAKER_02 47:13

But oh my god, yeah, and then these wildfires that killed celebrity homes, so celebrities need new homes.

SPEAKER_00 47:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 47:17

And they're just like, oh, I can pay 1.3 for that house.

SPEAKER_00 47:21

I mean, the last time I went down there, of course, this was a while ago. It was like in the 20 aughts, I want to say. The late 20 aughts, maybe early 20 teens. The minimum wage there was still only eight something, which it was higher here. It was like eight dollars an hour there. And yet their property was like you couldn't get a house for less than a million dollars down there, basically.

SPEAKER_02 47:48

Yeah, yeah. I think the average home price down there right now is like eight hundred thousand.

SPEAKER_00 47:52

Yeah, so it is it was retarded. Like, how the fuck are you supposed to actually afford?

SPEAKER_02 47:56

How are you supposed to how are you supposed to afford a house for $800,000? That's $800,000 for a two-bedroom on a 3,500 square foot lot when the average median income you take out all the celebrities. The average median income is like $87,000.

SPEAKER_00 48:11

Well, the median would include the celebrities.

SPEAKER_02 48:14

Oh, I'm sorry, 97,000 if you include the celebrities. My bad.

SPEAKER_00 48:17

Well, see, the median is the it's kind of like the average, except it's what the majority of people are actually making. Yeah. So the majority of people are actually making actually isn't as offset as much by the high-end people because it's literally the majority of people are making this, regardless of how much the billionaires, how many billionaires.

SPEAKER_02 48:38

Oh, guess what? Let's just guess what. Most celebrities don't claim their income taxes in California, even though they have a home there because they have home other places. Most of the celebrities are in New Jersey or New York, which are more, yes, which are more millionaire-friendly states. Like we just passed a millionaires tax here, which I think Oh, they actually

Moral Panic

SPEAKER_02 49:00

passed an income tax for millionaires here? Yeah. That's fucking and so uh the big guy at Starbucks already announced he's moving.

SPEAKER_00 49:07

Yeah. He's out and he's back. And not because it's not because we've got some people who make more than a million dollars a year is bad, but because that's exactly how the federal income tax started. We're gonna tax the rich. Well, the government never fucking stops hungering for your money. So it just starts out there. Eventually, the fucking bombs on the street are also gonna have an income tax.

SPEAKER_02 49:33

Yeah. It's it's here's the reason why to me it's such a huge deal. It's unconstitutional. We already have a federal income tax. We already pay state sales tax.

SPEAKER_00 49:45

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 49:46

There's absolutely no reason because in our constitution, everybody's supposed to be treated equal. So so you did a little better for yourself, and you have a corporation where you have 1,500 employees and you treat them well. But you know what? Excuse me, Mr. Dagda. You're you know, you bring in five million dollars profit a year. So instead of paying your $500,000 in taxes, we we're gonna need you to pay a million of that in taxes. Fuck that. Yeah. So I'm off that horse.

SPEAKER_00 50:12

Back on to back on this is why back on top of the vibrators.

SPEAKER_02 50:16

Yeah, get back on top of the Sybian. This is why we have multiple podcasts, because I hate talking politics and I feel like the world's pushing me more towards that. Because we just did an episode on uh everyday life on conversations over coffee, where it was plus sized pizza because we talked about three things, and I hate politics. Yeah, I will never deny being slightly left of center.

SPEAKER_00 50:41

Sounds like you need to uh be medically.

SPEAKER_02 50:44

I am having I'm having hysteria. Boyfriend, you need to come home. I need a treatment. Anyways, I mean, I'm not gonna treat myself, maybe I'll do it wrong. Anyways, so last but not least, yeah, we've got India who are still outlaws, and obviously, depending on your cultures, other places, yeah, they're not gonna want it right. But here in the good old United States of America, we have one state where it's still illegal. And you know what state that is. It wasn't it Alabama or that is correct in the state of Alabama, and not only was it voted on once, twice, but three times and reaffirmed in 2009, the state of Alabama, it's the only state still prohibiting the sale of any sex toys, up to and including vibrators. That's progress for America right there. But it was really great because what was interesting about that is the researcher in that area had the professor in that area when he talked about it, said that he would be willing to bet that there were more that more Al that more Alabama women owned vibrators than than Bibles because they probably got far more enjoyable use out of the vibrators than the Bible.

SPEAKER_00 52:09

So no, I know maybe they like spanking.

SPEAKER_02 52:15

Read the Bible and get your hysteria treatment all at the same time. Yeah, get right with Jesus, get right with yourself. I'm not kinky, I'm a flight. So so self-punishment. Read the Bible until you're almost happy and then stop. And then read some more passages and start again and then stop. I mean, that's edging for women. And let me tell you what, if edging for men is as miserable as it is for women, don't edge. That is the worst case of blue lips ever. It is painful.

SPEAKER_00 52:55

Yeah, I mean, yeah, it kind of depends upon how you go about doing it. Uh if you just edge and never release, then yes, you're gonna end up with in in a painful situation. But if you edge just a little bit, in other words, you do it a couple of times and then you go to completion, that's really good.

SPEAKER_02 53:19

Uh, I was gonna say what I will say is going till you're almost there three, maybe four times, is fine. Because then when you do when you do release, you're praying to Jesus ain't nobody home and the neighbors got their windows closed because you're like, ah, I'm George of the Jungle and I win and I'm jersey and I'm swaying here. King Kong ain't got nothing on me. That's right. Um, but here's the thing for edging for women, and I don't, and maybe it's just women of a certain personality, a certain age. I don't know. I know for me that it's just like the older I get, the more I'm like, fuck you, I might stroke out with this orgasm. So give it to me now. I'm not one to edge anymore because the last time I did the hold back, the edge to make a bigger orgasm, I ended up with a migraine and I was fucking heavy breathing. I thought I was having a stroke. Literally, no pun intended, thought I was having a stroke, and I'm like, you know what? Maybe this isn't such a good idea.

SPEAKER_00 54:28

Yeah. I mean, some people don't have the personality for it to you. They're like, uh no, I'm not interested. I just want to finish.

SPEAKER_02 54:35

And I have moments like that too, but I think everybody has the capacity to be both ways.

SPEAKER_00 54:38

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 54:39

And that's where a good vibrator comes into hand because one of the neat things with the vibrators and the invention of vibrators is you now have couples vibrators. A lot of people know it as the weave vibe, but there's many different companies where it inserts and presses up towards your Grafenberg spot, which is real but not real. It just adds extra pleasure when you stimulate the G-spot. It does not force an orgasm. I don't care. Yeah, it does. I've forced an orgasm. I have one, I I have talked to thousands of women that have never had a G spot orgasm only. But I've talked to thousands of women who are like, I've never had just a G-spot orgasm, but when my G spot is stimulated and they're lickety kitty, I'm happy. So it's a hand-in-hand orgasm because I know when my A spot, my G spot, and my C spot are all stimulated at the same time and I have an orgasm, I feel like a 16-year-old boy unloading for the or an 18-year-old boy, excuse me, unloading for the first time. Yes, I feel like King Kong 8 got nothing on me.

SPEAKER_00 55:44

I mean, it makes sense. You're hitting three in the very big nerve bundles. It's like, ah meanwhile, you can have an orgasm from just one of those three. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 55:57

And I I still, at my age, I still have wet dreams. I still routinely dream, and it's the worst. I'll tell you why it's the worst ever. It's the best ever because that's so nice to wake up with that just climaxed feeling. That's great. What's not so great is when you're in the middle of having one of these dreams. And if you're a vocal person, hi, have you met me? And your partner goes, shake, shake, shake. Are you okay, motherfucker? The last time my partner woke me up, I was just I didn't know what to say. I was just like, fine. Like, I was so because you can't wake me up. It's like, if you're paying attention to what I'm doing and what's happening, get involved. Otherwise, don't fucking wake me up. Or if you're gonna wake me up, like don't wake me, don't stop the new orgasm block.

SPEAKER_00 56:56

There is a thing called ruined orgasm, although it's usually for men, and it's usually like a dominatrix type thing where they're like, okay, no, stop, stop.

SPEAKER_02 57:07

Collaborate and listen. Sorry.

SPEAKER_00 57:09

Technically, it's not edging because it's like that wasn't the intent. It was literally you start to have an orgasm and then they slap your dick or whatever.

SPEAKER_02 57:17

Oh I've seen those movies, and I'm just like, and what's really funny to me is you can tell if they're being dick spanked in a way they want versus not want, because half those guys, when it's being done right, they're like, ah, and they're done. They're like over it, and it's messy and all that stuff. Then the other half are just like you bitch. So it's a it's a coin toss on that shit. Yeah. But yeah, anyway, so I thought that was funny that here we are. Well, you know, into the 2026, and Alabama still says you can't get off. Go read your Bible. You belong in Greenbow, Alabama, where you belong. You better get right with Jesus every day.

SPEAKER_00 58:04

You need to go home to Greenbow, Alabama, where you belong. I might not be smart, but I know what love is.

SPEAKER_02 58:12

Shut the front door. What's really disgusting is how much you can quote it after you've only seen it what once.

SPEAKER_00 58:18

I've only seen it once, yeah. Actually, that's not true. My fucking first roommate, when I got to my first unit in the army, his name was Gordo. He was fucking awesome. But he had just bought that movie and he loved it. And basically he would be like, Oh, so and so, have you seen fucking Forrest Gump? No, come in, watch this movie. So I actually watched that movie like at least eight fucking times.

SPEAKER_02 58:45

Or at least heard it.

SPEAKER_00 58:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 58:47

One of the things I really love about that movie uh is the fact that it does teach unconditional love. It does teach perseverance and unconditional love. Because if you look at it from the perspective of Forrest,

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SPEAKER_02 59:00

it was not, I'm not doing anything special. It was like I had to process and I was doing these things for me. And so I did it and I had fun and it was great. And I don't know why everybody's so happy about it. One of my favorite scenes is where he's just like, I've got to pay, which is great because he's being interviewed by the president, and he'd had like about 27 doc peppers.

SPEAKER_00 59:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 59:22

And then the other one where he he he gets shot and John bit me. Something jim top and bet me. And Lyndon B. Johnson's like, well, I bet that's a sight to see. And he goes, Oh, yeah, it was in my buttpox, and he pulls his pants down on national TV.

SPEAKER_00 59:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 59:38

Which I think is fantastic.

SPEAKER_00 59:39

They told me it was a million-dollar wound. Well, I'd like to see that.

SPEAKER_02 59:43

Yep, exactly. Thank you. Down come the pants. Um, I think it's great, and then I love just how it connects all the pop cultures together.

SPEAKER_01 59:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 59:52

And I do, it wasn't Rob Reiner the one who directed that.

SPEAKER_00 59:56

Um I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 59:57

It was either Reiner or Marshall, one of the one of the greats out there. But, anyways, um, so yeah, so Alabama, get shit together. Let people get off freely at home. So they don't have to go to the dark corner of the park and get pop for public indecency. Just saying.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:14

Have a great day.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:16

Later.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:16

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SPEAKER_00 1:00:39

Later.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:40

Bye.