No Name Podcast
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No Name Podcast
Legacy, Leadership, And Life with Marckendly Villiers
What if legacy is built one standard at a time? We sit down with MK—Navy leader, father, and entrepreneur—to explore how showing up at 4:25 for a 4:30 workout, saying no to the easy yes, and training a team weekly can turn pain into purpose and ambition into impact. From homelessness to business ownership, MK shares the systems that keep his mission moving and the mindset that keeps his family first.
We dig into the real work behind leadership: aligning delegation to strengths, preparing so thoroughly that preparation outweighs raw talent, and choosing one thing worth your full focus. MK breaks down how he balances duty, business, and fatherhood by treating life like chess—protect the king, place your pieces, and move with intent. His authenticity story—ditching the boardroom mask and winning more trust by being himself—offers a refreshing, practical path for anyone tired of performative professionalism.
The heart of the conversation is generational impact. MK is building assets in his children’s names, teaching credit and savings, and documenting family history so meaning travels with money. He talks about modeling energy at home, weekly reading with his daughter, and how standards ripple into the next generation. If you’ve ever felt stuck between overthinking and overdoing, MK’s answer is simple and powerful: add vision, then execute with systems you can sustain.
Subscribe for more conversations on leadership, purpose, and growth. If this episode moved you, share it with someone who’s ready to set a new standard—and drop a review to tell us the one focus you’ll commit to this month.
Welcome back to the No Name Podcast. Today, episode five. We have our first guest of the podcast series. I'm really excited about this because we're going to be talking about a few things that are near and dear to my heart. I'm your host, Alex. Over to you, Derek.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, okay. So I was in La La Land for a bit. Yeah, no, no, thanks for giving me a floor. I want to introduce one of my good friends. I'm so glad I was able to introduce you guys to each other. Now, Mark Henley Villiers, right? The Haitian prince. I got my man. We met like a little, probably like 10 years ago now. And uh he's he's been uh just always pushing me to go forward. So I want to just give you the floor, tell us a little bit about you, tell us what's important to you. And yeah, welcome to the No Name Podcast where we talk about anything and everything and nothing at the same time. I love it.
SPEAKER_01:Oh man, that's hard. That's hot, that's hot, man. He's here. Boris, Boris. Uh yeah, how you everybody doing? How are you doing? Uh Mark Kinley, uh original native from Florida, South Florida, Fort Lauderdale. Um man, you know, my my experience with the going through Sistrunk, kind of proper neighborhood to kind of like going to the middle, middle class area in Ladder Hill. Uh, joined the Navy pretty young, right around 20 years old. And from there, I've just been excelling and selling and selling, right? I didn't let that stop me from accomplishing, you know, within my time frame. I got my degree, started a business, got beautiful kids, family, just the works, right? And one of the biggest things that I always wanted to make sure is that I'm, you know, just giving back to the community, giving back to the next generation. And that's what I want to do. I want to be able to give back to the next generation, and it's giving that impact, right? Uh, especially being in the military, I already did that with the sailors. I changed a lot of sailors' lives. I actually made some sailors better by pushing my side of the comfort zone, and now they're flourishing, whether inside the military or even outside the military. And I, my, that's my relaxing legacy. So, one of the biggest things I learned early in my career is what's your legacy, right? So you know how you got sandwich, right? You got the bread, you got the lettuce, you got the meat, and you got the bread, right? So, what do you think is that's so important about the sandwich, right? A sandwich is not not a sandwich. Everybody say the bread, right? But what's in between is what's keep what's holding everything together. And that's what I try to do. I trying to put that in-between part and make sure that, hey, I'm giving the best ham, salami, whatever it is, right? So that way when the flavor's there, the flavor's there.
SPEAKER_00:So you're the you're the uh you're the stuffings today.
SPEAKER_03:You're you're the no, I like that reference. No, I love it, bro. I love it. Alex, before we get on, Alex eating a sausage, you talking about sandwich. I'm the only one that has eight hours. Like, what's going on? This is a hungry podcast. I love it. I like it. I like it.
SPEAKER_00:You know what I like, what I like about you? I met so for those that are listening, I I met Mark. Mark, right? Or Mark Kenley? Mark Kenley or or uh you can call me I I MK. MK is a is always the MK. I like by the by the way, I was in Fort Lauderdale yesterday. I was I was in that area chilling. But uh, yeah, no, so what I liked, I met I met you a couple weeks ago and and you were talking about everything. And uh we were like, hey, let's get you on this podcast, because you know, this our podcast, I know there's like a catchy thing where we talk about anything, everything, and nothing at the same time. But the reality is we're fathers. We we were, well, you two are still in the military. I was, I'm prior, prior military, and you know we're trying to inspire the next generation. And so today we're gonna talk about legacy leadership and life. And, you know, my first question just to throw it at you, because you're doing a lot of shit. You were telling me about all these businesses you're creating, you got a family, like you're doing it all. Tell me the secret, bro. Uh man.
SPEAKER_01:The secret, you see, usually like uh KFC, you don't never give the secret recipe, right? But this time I'm I'm gonna go ahead and give it that. I'm gonna give it a little spice and herbs right now. Hey, Mark Elliott, Mark, teachers, how do we get to the yams? Yeah, how do we get to the yams? The biggest thing is just prioritizing, you know, prioritizing your time, prioritizing your effort, because here's the thing. You only have one, you only one person, one person, right? One body, but you gotta be able to divide yourself in different areas, right? So, like with me, I always gotta remember, I'm a father first. You say I create I created a life outside of the side of myself, and that's gonna take prior main priority. Then secondly, the bread and butter, right? What's providing an income. Make sure the military is staying satisfied, and in between building systems that way that I can be able to, hey, let me utilize my work set of supervisors and utilize my uh ALPO, LPO, so on and so forth. So that way it makes it easier for myself to delegate tasks that doesn't have to involve me all the time. And last but not least, when having a business, you you also remember being active duty, we are on call 24-7. So the standing duty, standing watches, so on and so forth, guess what we got to do? It's like chest, having the chest pieces put in place. So I'm like, hey, let me have an assistant, let me have a VA. So that way, if I'm not able to make those meetings or make those calls, I have someone in place who can represent me. And that's how I was able to balance it out. Now, there are times and days where, man, pieces had to be moved around. You know what I'm saying? You might use a pond, you might use the the the horseman, you gotta you gotta use your pieces wisely. Because one of the things is you're the king, right? As the king, you gotta you gotta make sure your kingdom is r run very, very well. And that's the biggest thing, is just kind of having to know when those pieces need to be moved and also knowing where your hats need to be prioritized. And that's how I'm able to balance out the military, fatherhood, and also running a business.
SPEAKER_00:I love, I love how you uh you talked about delegation there, because a lot of times people, in my own experience, like what I've seen, is people they talk about delegation, but they end up delegating the wrong tasks. So like they're you know, like they're throwing things everywhere, but ultimately, you know, like you were saying, the king is the in the kingdom, you're responsible. Like it the responsibility lies on you. And they be delegating something that that they should be having ownership on. So like with it, with that being said, man, like going back to uh, you know, the delegation piece, I'm I'm a I'm a person that I'm gonna dive deep, man, right? I'm gonna ask you some questions that maybe you're like, man, but like what do you what are you delegating? Like you you got so much stuff going on. Like you talk about building this lasting legacy, right? While while balancing, you know, service to country and you know, obviously trying to challenge your own personal development and always moving forward. Like, what are you delegating?
SPEAKER_01:So a lot of the time, so so I I'll break it down to make it more easy, right? So we can so so now now we now we go into deep end. We we don't know no longer the shallow end, right? So now now this is the part we people don't ever think about, right? So when you look at look at the people around you and look at your system you have, right, you gotta know their strengths, right? If you don't know their strengths, then you're gonna, if somebody is good at painting walls and you have them doing dishes, it defeats the purpose. So now you gotta go back and redo the work versus, hey, this person is strong. So like right now, hey, I have two meetings I need to be in, right? Which meeting is the most important one, and which meeting is can be subsidiary, right? I know I have a work set of supervisor that's very good at expressing the ideas and thoughts for the mission. I'm gonna send that individual out for that meeting, and I'm gonna show up for the one that's gonna have more visibility and more impact overall, right? For the business thing with the business. So I say, if y'all know, a lot of people don't know, I own a cleaning business. So with cleaning business, I also talk to a lot of the head chefs, presidents, vice presidents, CEOs, and so on and so forth. So guess what I do? I have to make sure that I'm present in those meetings. The ones that are the kind of like the lesser, I would delegate that to my COO, which is my second in command. So that way, hey, prepping, making sure, but I'm gonna tell you something. This is something that people don't think about, right? Prepare, prepare, prepare, prepare. When you meet somebody with talented, when that person who's prepared comes to the scene, that person with talent will be get overshadowed by the person who's prepared, right? So you gotta make sure each of your team members are prepared to jump into any situation. You could be one day, you could, I could be sick. But now, since I already prepared my segment of command on how to delegate, how to take care of things, if I'm out of commission, the mission will still continue. And that's one of the things you gotta make sure you've developed systems. One of the biggest systems, like on Thursdays, we do training. Every Thursday, training, training, training, training. Leadership has training, and then the employees have training. And guess what that does? If one person gets sick, but we all all five of us got the same training, so one person can go ahead and fill in the spot that's missing.
SPEAKER_03:I like that.
SPEAKER_00:I was thinking about something. It was a jab to Derek for a second because uh you were talking about diving in the deep end, and Derek told me he doesn't know how to swim.
SPEAKER_02:That's cat. No, NQS?
SPEAKER_03:For those that are listening, Derek. That's crazy. You taught me how to how to walk underwater the other day. How I go from Wim Hof to to Guppy, man, that's crazy.
SPEAKER_00:I just had to throw that in there for a second because it came to my mind. I like how you talked about, you know, being prepared and you know, being prepared versus talent. Because I think that we're like starting to get into this, and I'm I'm taking this a different realm, I guess you would say, but like in the sports realm, people are just like, oh, he got so much talent. What kind of work is he putting in behind the scenes? And so that now goes into life, what you're talking about, and with regards to like leadership and legacy, I don't think people realize that leaders like leadership skills, that is something that can be, it's a skill, like it can be learned. What kind of work are we putting in as people to better our leadership skills so we can do regards like with everything like you're saying, like we're delegating, knowing how to see which which guy or gal is strong in this area or not so strong in this area, where can I put people here, put people there? I want to know, you know, I want to bring it back to you for a second because I think that there's a lot can be learned from what how you hold yourself, is like, where are you, how are you challenging yourself because you talk about growth as a priority. Like, what are some things that you do to raise your own standard internally?
SPEAKER_01:Oh, so one of the things, the biggest things, like, okay, I give you today, right? This morning I got up, right? Well, me and my buddy, we we go work out in the morning. I say, he asked me, he said, what time, what time you want to work out? I said 4.30 in the morning, right? Setting the standard is setting your own rules, right? That's the that's what I do. I start off, I said I set my standard, because now I'm holding myself accountable, right? I can't hold somebody accountable for something I said. So I assure, I was there at 4.25, right? Five minutes prior, because the end of the day, if I showed up at 4.31 and he's ready, that that defeats the purpose. So I always have to hold myself to a higher standard and always showing up. The biggest thing is, is a lot of time people want to make sure everything's perfect and pretty and nice and everything. You gotta be able to show up. Showing up and taking some time to read, you know, say uh one of the biggest, one of the greatest books to read out, read is uh uh called the Great CEO Are Lazy and Rocket Fuel, right? Those are two good books that I would say people like to read. And Rocket Fuel is kind of like the same thing, having the vision, knowing are you the visionary or are you the executioner? Right. So make sure I'm reading, make sure I meditate, make sure I take the time to eat right, eat healthy. Like for myself right now, if I'm I revealed this, I lost 34, 35 pounds within the last two and a half months because I stick to a system. I got it. Congrats. You're saying that's a big win right there. Oh, trust me. I appreciate that. Yeah, and and and a lot of time it's the it's the system. Um, and then one thing I also I realize is when you're growing, some people are gonna fall off. I I I'll give you a crazy story. Um, Saturday was my homeboy's birthday, right? They they throwing it back. I sit there and I said, I'm good. You're saying they pour me like three, three or four different shot glasses. I looked and I said, I can either take that, but I'm gonna set myself back again, or I can say, hey, you know what? This is my standard, and if they re if they're cool with me, they understand that I don't drink no more. When I let I left, I left all three shots on the table. My boy came and told me the next day, that was Saturday, Sunday, he called me, he said, Hey, I noticed you you walked off and left the shots, man. I said, Yeah. What I did was I left the OME. You know what I'm saying? That that's that's all it is. Do you gonna finish it up? And he's like, bro, he's like, that that inspired me. He's like, I never seen somebody who, you know, we over here throwing shots, throwing everything, but you staying focused on your on your path. I said, Yeah, I'm I'm all about growth. I'm all about are we gonna grow together or are we gonna stay stay the same? You know what I'm saying? I ain't 17 no more. I can't I can't drink like four shots and wake up the next day and be like, all right, cool, five o'clock morning PT. No, no, no, big dog. Nah, I can't do that no more. And that's how I I'm I'm growing. And then by me growing, guess what happened? Everybody around me is starting to grow too at the same time. I love it. Like, oh shoot, he's doing it too. Yeah, good old man.
SPEAKER_00:There's a something that came to my mind when you were saying that was uh the entrance feed to the life that you want is the life that you have.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, one more time, one more time, one more time.
SPEAKER_00:The entrance feed to the life that you want is the life that you have.
SPEAKER_01:That's that's that's bars. You say because it hit it's crazy because when I broke down, actually I broke down to one of my other buddies, what's what's today? Today's Wednesday, Monday, and he and I told him like what I did, and he was like, bro, he said, I can't do that. I said, there's nothing different between me and you, man. There's nothing different between me and you. What what is your why? Ask yourself why you're doing this. Because actually, Derek, Derek, you you're the one who told me he's like, hey, hey, dawg, over the years, you saw me, man, I've been 201 to almost 300 pounds. Up and down, up and down, up and down. But now, you told you asked me about what are you gonna do to make sure you don't go back again? You're saying? And that's the thing. My now my why is so strong to the point where like, oh yeah, I'm I'm good. I'm good. My boy challenged me. I don't think I did that.
SPEAKER_03:I just asked the question. That uh oh you love it.
SPEAKER_00:I love that though, man, because the reality is everybody can do what you're doing. Everybody can do what any, you know, I say successful, but it like when you look externally and you see all these people thriving, it's really we lose connection to self. We lose that, like you said, our why. Like we don't even a lot of people are just on autopilot, man. They're just going through the motions every single day, just working and and you know, it's all subconscious.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, dude, I'm gonna tell you what I dropped the so my favorite rapper of all time is Nifty Hustle. But he said something on Victory Lap. He said something that I mean that he said, find your purpose or you wasting air. I was like, and I said that again, and I said, listen to what he said. He said, Find your purpose or you're wasting air. Everybody has, we're born that we got a beginning, we got an end. But in between, what are you doing? Are you finding your purpose? Are you finding what you're here for? You know, are you going after what you're here for? Or are you saying what you want and saying that you want to accomplish this? I'll tell people this. I don't care how how bad you want something, I care about how hard you work for it. Because I can't, I can't see how bad you want it, but I can definitely see how hard you work for it, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_00:I mean, I'm sure you can see it in your own life too, is like with regards to fatherhood, they they're not gonna listen to what you say, they're gonna listen to what you do.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, yeah. He's saying it's gonna be like that, dad's talking about he's gonna work out, but he's over there eating like three McDonald's.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, man, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Dad talking about, hey, let me tell you about the sandwich. Derek, man, talk to me, bro. Hell yeah, no. You over there cutting hair. I'm taking this all in, man. For me, seeing Mark Henley do this 180. Like, okay, funny story. He was the one that told me I should be an RDC, a drill instructor. Because we were working out one morning and we were on a run, remember? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We was running, we was cruising, he was like, Yeah, my homeboy told me he's an RDC. And I was like, Yeah, I've never thought about that. I should look into that. I think that was Monday. Wednesday, I shot an email to the detail and I had orders that Friday.
SPEAKER_00:So he blamed you for everything he's going through right now.
SPEAKER_03:That escalated. That escalated like that. I just wanted to ask. I was just I just was curious how it worked, you know. But now that just taking it all in, you know, we we each have similar stories, and I'm just I'm just thinking, like, man, and I was I I was waiting for a window, so appreciate the window. I want to know, Mark Henley, what is the association between your journey as an entrepreneur and as a father? Like I'm trying not to say like for example, Alex hit me with this, right? And and maybe we can rope you up into this. He was like, Hey, there's a TED Talk next year in Cabaret. Um, you should look into it. I'm like, okay, okay. Um like what would I talk about? He's like, Well, you're a barber and you're also a father. And you know, are the two connected? Maybe your your passion for helping people restart is the same passion you have for helping people, which helps you have your which helps you raise your kids, right? He helped show me an association between cutting hair, being a father, and being an entrepreneur. Now that's my journey. I want to know how what does that look like for you? Like what is what is the association, what is the consistency between everything that you do in your life and how does it translate to how you do business? You being you.
SPEAKER_01:You know, you know when they say like like uh when uh when the the students watching the teacher will show, right? So like example, my daughter, my oldest daughter, she was like, Dad, like I'm literally laptop typing everything up, right? And she said, Dad, you're inspiring me. She said, no matter what, I'm seeing your your your growth, right? Because now I'm not I'm not affecting my daughter in hey, you do this, you did that. Now she sees the picture, she sees my vision, right? Guess what that did? That inspires her to now go further and go out. Because you're I got my biggest thing is the environment you're in should should should either motivate you say and shouldn't destroy you. And the way the reason I say that is because now I'm still in an environment. So my my business, same thing with my business, right? I'm pouring into my kids, I'm pouring into my business. I'm making sure that the employees are growing, I make sure my daughter's growing. We do reading. Like after this, I got to call my younger daughter, we do reading. Growth don't just stop because I'm because I'm just doing one thing. Growth affects every area, right? If I'm getting better in business, I'm becoming a better, if I become a better person, I become a better businessman, I become a better father. And that's how everything gets roped in together. Because now I'm showing you can be fit and still have fun. You can balance seriousness with fun, right? Because I'm I'm not gonna lie to y'all. Beginning, my oldest daughter, she's traumatized by my old self. She thought I was drill sergeant. She was like, she like, Dad, this ain't boot camp. I said, get on that wall. You know what I'm saying? But now, with that change of perspective and I poured more into myself and I got better, now she's like, wow, you're inspiring me. You know, you're doing this while you got you. Look, I got my degree while starting a business. You say, I'm balancing school, balancing fatherhood, I'm balancing school uh the uh business and everything. And how would I tie it in? Is like now my kids see see my effort. I'm not talking about it. I don't have to talk about it no more. They see that, they see the growth, they see that. And as I'm continuing to get better, guess what I'm doing? I'm showing them the example of what type of man I want them to, you know, eventually be with once they get older. They like, oh wow, this die, well, my daddy over here doing this. You over, you know what I'm saying? They don't have, they don't, they don't settle for less, you know what I'm saying? They settle for more and they want more and they want to see and accomplish more. By me continuing to grow, grow, grow, my business grow, grow, grow, me as a human being grow, that affects all compass in my area, you know what I'm saying? And and then that that's the that's hopefully that that makes sense, you know what I'm saying, in a nutshell, if that makes sense. But it's it's like I plant the season myself. So my in my journey, I had to plant the season myself so that way everything around me can grow. And a lot a lot of people don't understand, like once you grow, and people think that it's being selfish, it's not being selfish, it's self-care. You gotta take care of yourself, and then once your soil is is good and you start to grow, guess what? You're producing fruit. Producing being a f a better father, producing being a better sailor, producing being a better businessman, you're saying, so on and so forth. And and as I'm growing, I'm producing more fruit, but I still have to make sure I'm pointing to myself so that way it expands outside.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I love that you said that. Go ahead. It reminds me of the analogy of on the airplane, right? When they say, before you try to help somebody else, put the mask on yourself. Is that kind of what you you're alluding to?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, like because the thing about it is is how if I if I was 450 pounds right now, right, and and I cover the whole screen, and I'm saying, hey, I'm losing my weight. You're yours, I'm not even pointing to myself. I'm saying I put I put in the mask, but instead of me putting the mask on my I put in somebody else, and guess what I guess what I do? That makes my mask hold somebody else accountable for my mask. Where I should be account for my mask to put it on.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. And plus your neck would probably be distracting.
SPEAKER_01:I'll pack the tape though.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I don't know if I could get I don't know if the neck would be distracting because the the upside down LA is getting me right now. No, those are watching, he's got a he's got a Los Angeles hat that's upside down.
SPEAKER_01:For for all the LA fan, man, you're saying hey, hey, it it's okay. It's okay.
SPEAKER_03:Alex, you don't have an upside down hat? No, man.
SPEAKER_00:I'm all the cool kids are doing it.
SPEAKER_03:Hold on.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, you got an upside down hat too.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I'm not sure.
SPEAKER_00:Yo, you know, you put that on your Instagram.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, okay.
SPEAKER_03:I'm I'm working on making my hat brand. I might have to send you one. Make sure you sign it though. We'll get you one that says like speaker or like coach.
SPEAKER_00:Yo, I love it. I love it. Yo, Henley, I want to talk to you, man, for a second, because this has caught my eye. It might be not even on the same page. I first want to acknowledge something before I shift. My ADHD is kicking in a little bit. Um, I like how you talked about energy is contagious. Like that's how I take it, right? Because a lot of people don't understand that who they surround themselves with, if they're not thriving, like you said, the energetic aspect is contagious, and you start to draw towards them if you're not strong enough or you don't have awareness around it. There's this, I was an instructor, I was a leadership instructor in the Navy, and there's this concept called Batari's box. Your energy affects my energy, my energy affects your energy. So it's like this circle. My energy and my actions affect your energy and your actions. So just having awareness of how we can show up in the world, like you said, is number one in regards to any type of change. Like if you we could have, you know, you could have the the worst thing that happens to you in your life, but if you can see it in a different light, in a positive light, all you're gonna bring is positivity. So it's like being able to understand the energetics aspect of it is half the battle, in my opinion. But I what I wanted to ask you, what I want to ask you about, because I'm a firm believer in a lot of the studies and a lot of the work that I've done, uh men model behavior from the most masculine relationship they they experienced growing up. So, and that's both sides. It could be good and it could be bad. And on your website or on your Instagram, you say turning pain into purpose, which is a big thing for me. I just did a TED talk on transforming pain into purpose. So I really, I really love what you got there. I want to know where this all birthed from, like where this where this part of you that you're doing a business, you're being a father, you're serving your country, you know, the story goes on and on and on, but like where did it come from? Where did this was there a painful moment or was there something that you're like, hey, this is what you took it off?
SPEAKER_01:I I think uh Ever since I was little, like the pain, you so I didn't so I didn't grow up my father. My father passed away when I was six, right? So my mom kind of dibbed and dabbled through relationships, right? And I saw different aspects of different men, you know what I'm saying? And I saw some good, I saw some bad, but then I saw what what really changed me, right, to be become a better person, and a lot of people, when they ask me these questions, kind of like go deep. Um a situation happened with my mom, right? And I remember after the situation, the effect that happened, right? And how that pain that she she dealt with, and I said, that would never be me. Because I saw myself and I said, I want to be better. Because a lot of people, I ain't gonna lie, I had an LPO call me, he called me um Kanye West of uh of the medical, medical. He didn't know who I was until he started, he started listening to my my trip daddy dollars mixtape. And then and then what and what happened was um I say, you know, after hearing my uncle talk about my father, right? And my father, 26, he had a bachelor's degree, he has a bachelor's in um biomechanical engineering in Haiti, and then also he uh spoke five different different languages. And just hearing that, it's like, okay, that means I can do do more. I saw my uncle. My uncle came from Haiti. Haiti at 22, I think. He went from having no degree to having a PhD in 10 years. And seeing those things motivate me. And then what I realized is that at one point I I was homeless, right? Um, I was sleeping in shelters. I was like, man, I I think I had I had to tell somebody this the story before. I said, I was sleeping in shelters. I remember staying, staying outside downtown Jacksonville. It's a homeless shelter. Um, if you don't get there at a certain time, you have to figure out how to how to where to sleep at. It was December, yeah, around December, January, uh, January time frame, and it was winter time. And I was like, man, I ain't got nowhere to play. So like that was kind of like my lowest point where I was like begging people, like I was like, hey, I remember this case, I don't think the case is here no more, but like I say, it's okay if I sleep under under the table at night and just close the light, you know what I'm saying? I can sleep under here and everything like that. Going to homeless shelters and having somebody stole my stole my shoes. So I was like one shoe for a week. And I said, and when that LPO, it's St. LPO who called me Kanye West, and when I told him my story and told him what I've been through, he's like, Wow, he's like, You you didn't show that part. And I said, What I went through, I saw my daughters, I said, I can make sure they don't go through. And that motivated me, because that pain right there motivated me to say, alright, cool, I want to do more. I want to do better. I don't, I wanna don't, I don't want to be like my friend Peanut, who goes into jail for robbery. I don't want to be like, you know, some of my friends that that that kind of been in and out of jail, you're saying. Um, I know that's a different lifestyle and different way I want to live. And when I saw the environment, I used that motivation to make me like, alright, cool. If I do this, this is where I end up. I don't want to live like that. I want to live like this. And then going to the business aspect, I was scared. Like when I started going to meet business um personnel CEO, uh, I'm not gonna lie, I was, I did the suit and tie. I had to make sure I was, you know, good morning, sir, good morning, man. How you doing today? Um, yeah, my name is Mark Kenley Willi. And then I said, man, I'm not being my authentic self. What what what my what what can I lose by being my authentic self? And then when I start being my my real self, I say, this is who I am, this is how I talk, this is how how it is. And you gotta, I mean, accept me for who I am, or you're not, but at the end of the day, it's like I'd rather be my authentic self. And then we had a um oh man, this one gala we went to, I ain't gonna lie. I walk I walked there with my my Uh American hat flag. I had my my hey then we like gang, we like stupid, you know, stuff on a shirt. I'm walking with my cargo jeans. I look like like I'm in the military. And then when somebody said, Wait, um, do you what the dress code's was this? I was like, Yeah, but I came like this. And he was like, What do you do? I told him my story, I told him who I am, I told him what I do, and he's like, Wow, he said, You know, you know what made me come to you? And he's like, Your t-shirt. He's like, I never seen somebody who was that bold enough to wear that in this event. He's like, he's like, your bravery made me want to talk to you because I was like, you know, you got CEO and you got business owners in here, but you're dressed as the regular average Joe. And I said, Yeah, but this, I am an average Joe. I'm I may be a business owner, but that doesn't separate me from my cleaners. It doesn't separate me from you. We are in the same, we all in the same same earth as everybody else. So we can work together and build, or you can sit back and judge. But at the end of the day, I want you to accept who I am, and I'm gonna accept who I am. And that's kind of like what birthed me through those trials and tribulations, those pains, and those, those situations that I had to overcome because a lot of people, they'll get subdued to the situation, and they'll stay in that same spot. I said, you know what? I got two choices. Either I can stay in the same spot or I'm gonna dig myself up and get to a certain point I want to get in life. And now it motivates other people. I had a I had a shoot, I had a sailor say, man, H1, you got a business? I was like, yeah, I got a business. Like, you doing the right, why still do it? It's like, how he's like, you got 84 sailors, you doing da-da-da-da. I said, Yeah, but here's the thing. What excuses can I give? Can I sit here and be like, man, Derek, man, I wish I would have done that years ago. Now look, now look at me, man. You know what I'm saying? Or now I can say, hey, was it hard? Heck yeah. Was it difficult? Yes, it was difficult. Oh man, it was difficult. But I went through the difficult in the beginning so that way I can deal with the grift and the light at the end. That's all it is. I went through the mud, came out, came out pristine, shiny, and everything. But I had to go through the mud. I had to go through through the tough times and say, I can't give up. No matter it seemed like in the mission. I can't give up until I've accomplished the mission. This is my goal, this is my journey, I'ma stay focused, I'm gonna get it. And yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Damn. That was a mic drop moment, man. That was amazing. Just when I thought I couldn't learn nothing else about you, man. I don't see why you're so like you see something and you go get it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. And I think the the biggest thing I tell people, like, you got two choices. You can make two things, right? I can make excuses or I can make impact. I can I can sit here and say, I wish I would have done it, or can say I did it and I I had done it. Because a lot of people can say, you know, it's tough, you know, to balance out everything in life. It is. If everything was easy, everybody, everybody would be will be it, you're saying. Look, look at uh Jeff Bezos, you're saying Microsoft, uh no, so Amazon probably went, was it, I think, almost three or four times bankrupt, but he stuck, he stuck, stuck with it. And look at him right now. You're saying, if you were to quit at the first bankruptcy, guess what happened? Think about um I'm gonna say this one, 409. 409, right? 409. You got told 408 times no until 409 you got your first yes. People, nowadays they quit at, hey man, you a girl told me twice. I uh she said you told me no. I'm like, well, keep going. Don't, don't, don't step a no doesn't mean no for right now, but it's in it's not a no forever.
SPEAKER_03:And no, Mark Henley, your audio went out.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, it did? Oh, MC. His video, his video.
SPEAKER_03:Can you not hear him there? It was just black on my own.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, yeah. It was saying about something, but okay, I I is it am I good now? Yeah, you're good.
SPEAKER_00:You said something, man. I want to dive in more. I'm gonna throw it to you. I'm gonna throw, I say I'm gonna throw you a bone, but you you're gonna you're gonna pick up what I'm putting down here. You were talking about taking action. And what I've seen in my my coaching practice and even just coming across other men is there's two types of men in the world, in my opinion. There's the type that's all in their head and there's no action. Like they're timid, they're lost, they're confused, they lack, they lack purpose. And then there's men that are all action and there's no connection to themselves. Like they're just busy, busy, busy, multi-millionaires, like they're successful on paper, but something's still missing. How do in in your opinion, how do we, how do we there's there's gotta be a middle, middle there in the spectrum, right? There's the far left and the far right. How do we merge the two where we can have action and connection at the same time? Because I feel like that's what society is missing in men today.
SPEAKER_01:So so my thing is this, right? So you got action, you got you got the connection, right? But here's the thing, where's the vision? It it's it's it's like it's like if if you send me, you give me a roadmap, right, and I said, where we going? If you don't know, we're going, we can run, we can keep going circle and circle all day. You have to have a vision, you have to have where do you want to see and where do you want to go. Because here's the thing. You can you can think all day, don't have a plan, and be in the same spot 15, 16 years later, or you can be that person who's running, running, running. You're like, man, this dude's been running for like the last 10 or 15 years, but where's he going? He doesn't know where he's going. Before you start running, have a plan, have a vision. Hey, this is where I want to be at. This is how I want to feel, this is what I want to do, this is how I want my life to look like. Now you have a purpose. Now you have a plan. So now when you have your vision, you have your now you can build your roadmap. Stop thinking about it, start building. And guess what happened? Oh, you know what? This didn't work? Let me let me try this. This didn't work. So let me try this. Oh, this is working for me because what may work for me may not work for you, Derek, so on and so forth. And I think that's the main disconnection. Uh like a lot of this is what I say, I say a lot of people are sometimes lost. It's because JJ trying to do something and trying to do everything and anything. You can be Jack of our trade or you can be master, right? So like Derek, barber. Easy simple. You know what I'm saying? If you didn't have that direction, you start doing barbering, uh, cutting grass, um insurance agent. Now you're putting yourself in so many different bubbles, but guess what? I'm putting 10% in barbering, 10% insurance, 10% in cutting hair. And but guess what happened? They're growing, but they're not they're not gonna grow exponentially. They're gonna grow little by little. Versus, you know what? Cut everything out, barbering. Focus on that. Now I'm putting 100% and I'm growing and getting better, and my skill set getting better. Don't worry about the other things. Worry about this one you one thing that's working for you. And I think that's what the thing is, just find that one thing, that purpose that they that makes you want to get up and want to grind, and then stick with it. And then, yes, you you can if if down the road you want to do some other stuff, that's fine. But stick to stick to that one goal until you become great at it. And once you become great at it, then bam. I love that.
SPEAKER_00:Well, there's you know, there's a book. There's a book about that. You're you're a you're a genius, first of all. That's just that's the simple thing, is you're a genius. The book's called The One Thing, and it talks about like doing a one thing, and then when when you have gotten to a point, then you can branch out. I wrote that one. The one thing The One Thing. It's so you know, it's it's like everybody, everybody has a lot of similar language, but it it all comes down to like you were saying, just execution. Right? Like that's where for myself I have like a great vision for a lot of things. It just comes down to execution. And so like I I I see in a lot of men that I that are in my realm that are that I'm coaching, that's what the mirror is for me, too, is because I'm I'm all over the place sometimes and I'm like just execute. Just execute. And I think that's where a lot of men get get lost, and and then and I want to bring this up is because they're so all over the place with being outwardly focused. Not in, and I'm I'm not necessarily saying in a negative way, I'm saying like we're taking care of our kids, we're making sure our our wives or our partners are taken care of, we got the business, we got blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And we just, we, we sometimes we forget that connection, like you were saying earlier, to the self and then executing on what it is that fills our cups.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and and and I I think it's kind of like uh somebody was saying, hey, H you won, practice make perfect. Nah, dude, not practice made perfect. Perfect practice made perfect because you could be doing something over and over again that's wrong, and then you get per you're perfecting the wrong thing versus sitting down there and say, this is what's what can I do to keep getting better and growing and moving my skill set? And I and I feel I feel like that, and that's the thing, is like people be like, like, well, I'm just gonna do something. Well, do what? And then what and what is the end result? Because a lot of people, and I think at one point I would say, um, and Derek can tell you, he's saying, ah, hey, I'm Haitian. So, so, so we so just like Jamaicans, we we like to do a lot of things.
SPEAKER_00:We cook, we clean, we yo, don't, hey, don't Derek don't be cooking. He left me uh hanging on some Smash Burgers here, bro.
SPEAKER_01:Uh no, no, say it ain't so big.
SPEAKER_03:Look, look, I need to know, Alex, are you Haitian or Jamaican? Because look, Mark, I came down there, that man had me tired. I said, I said, I'm on vacation, man.
SPEAKER_00:Yo, bro, listen, listen, we pulled out some, we we pulled out some ground beef, and he was like, yo, I'm gonna make some smash burgers. I'm gonna try, I'm gonna have you try these smash burgers that I'm really good at. And I'm like, dope. So let's make let's buy the bread, let's get everything. We had all the ingredients and stuff, and they're still in the kitchen. I ain't got no smash burger.
SPEAKER_03:Hey, look, no, no mosquitoes had me at gunpoint. I said, God damn, I felt like mosquitoes were GTA stars. I was laying low in the room. I I I couldn't go. Yo, I love it. I love it. Kelly, the mosquitoes, you gotta peek out the door before you go out, man. Oh, yeah. Yo, man, the Debo size ones. Yeah, no, they were quiet. I'll I'm assuming it's you. It's been three weeks. I ain't seen someone use so much off spray in my life. Look, uh, he ain't know it could be used for mouthwash, too.
SPEAKER_00:Yo, man, I love it. I love it. I gotta be safe. Yo, they'll be here in February when you come.
SPEAKER_03:The mosquitoes and the smash burgers. You go to Haiti, you go to DR, you gotta speak really proper, okay? Because one one is a tourist. Both of us there, we Haitian. We can't just both be out there now. That's the one, two, two, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:They're gonna look at you and do the no, right? Coach, get them out of there, coach. Bro, yo, man. Talk to me, man, talk to me. This is amazing. The everything you're doing, we before we jumped on, you talked about like the one thing that I want to hit on here is like generational impact. And I want to give you the floor for a few minutes to talk about general generational impact, but this is kind of near to my near to my heart because I think every person, especially as a father, right? Like you you talked about being a father, and and I'm a father, Derek's a father. We're trying to make that one step better for our kids. Talk to me, man. Generational impact on why that's such such an important role for you.
SPEAKER_01:Um I think it's also like to me it's important because growing up, I feel like not not everybody in the same spaces, but like, like I said, my mom didn't put me in a p in a position for me to Derek.
SPEAKER_00:Derek, he thought you were he thought you what you were saying was boring. He just jumped off here, man. He like, you know what? Cut it. I'm done.
SPEAKER_03:No, no, no, no, forgive me. I'm listening, but hey, this is about to get real interesting because not only am I listening, but I have a haircut client that's about to be here. So um might be our first live air haircut podcast. All right. We'll just keep it going. So don't mind me, I'm gonna set up.
SPEAKER_01:All right, I got I gotcha, I got you. Um yeah, I think that the main one of the biggest things is that um I didn't think about it until I started having kids, and like, what can I do to make sure like I leave a lack of legacy so that way now what I want to do, I want to give my kids options. I um I feel like growing up, I really wasn't set up with options. I had to figure out what I got, what I got to do, what I have to do, right? And then when I start having kids, it made me realize like, what do I want my kids to experience and what do I want my kids to have, right? Do I want them to go through the same rocky road that I went through, or do I want to leave my legacy? And then what I start doing is I start, you know, with my my youngest and my oldest, we start, you know, putting money away. We start building assets in their name. So that way it's not something that's gonna, it's not just assets that's gonna be just for one generation. It's assets that can still transfer over to the next generation. Um and that and that's where I, when I say generational impact, is now I'm changing the course, you know, of my of their lives. You know, they don't have to go go grow up eating bologna sandwiches or you know, having mayonnaise sandwiches or Kool-Aid with no sugar, you know, like stuff like that, where now I'm building something in the background where, hey, they don't understand now, but once they get older, they put them in a better position. So that way now they got a fresh head start. Then teaching them how to maintain it, how to keep it, how to not lose it. Because a lot of times people don't realize this, there's been generational impact that's been lost, where the family didn't set them up to understand how to maintain that wealth. So now, like with my old daughter, I I'm teaching her how to how to look at stocks, how, how, you know, to work on savings and um how credit card works, how the different tiers of credit card, teaching financial literacy, teaching about life skills, ensuring that they understand, hey, this is what you what you have to do to make sure that you pass on to the next generation. So, because at the end of the day, like I tell my kids, and I, and I always be with my kids, I was like, all this stuff I got, all the position I got, the grandkids, great-grandkids, it's gonna have these materialistic stuff, it's gonna stay on earth, right? What did I do and what did I leave to make sure that these things don't get lost, right? Because a lot of our, like for me, I'm still trying to find pieces of my family history, of the past, you know. Like, I just find out that there's people in my family that are from the DR, you know, or Dominican Republic. Like, there's different like cultures in our family, but no one maintained records. No one taught them this is who this person is, this is who that person is, this is how they grew up, this is how they you're saying, I like like I'm I'm trying, like, last thing I was trying to find out like who is my grandfather's um um name. Let me let me see if I can turn this up here off. All right, that was that was so annoying. Um so so now what what I'm trying to do is, oh man, um so so what main thing what I'm trying to do is now is like I can't if so I can't find a the past, but I can still build the future. Um you know say I'm I'm also in the process of writing my my story. And I think everybody should do that, you know what I'm saying? Write a story, write your story, write your what you went through, what you've been through, because that story, that book, can now we got Chat GPT, can be transferred over to a book, and then then your family, your kids will give it to their kids, then they then their kids, and then now, you know, a couple generations like wow, this is something from this is how great granddad was. This is what he went through, this is what he experienced. You say that history won't get lost, and that's the whole idea of generational impact.
SPEAKER_00:Dude, I like that. I actually wrote that down right now that you said write your story so your generate future generations can read it. You know, I think you might have answered my question that I want to ask you. I got two questions for you, man. I'm unless Derek has something that he wants to dive into here. But one of the things that, you know, Derek and I we we've been chopping up a lot is I'm a firm believer we're souls in a human experience. So I say that slowly because I'll I'll out the question I'm gonna ask you, but as a soul in the human experience, what would you want to leave behind for your future self to find?
SPEAKER_01:Oh that's that's that's a deep one though. I I want my I want to leave behind authentic s authentic um like my authentic self. I want to leave a legacy and and legacy meaning that when I look back and I always I always thought about this, when I look back and and I and I I tell my brother, I told my brother this the other day, I say when I look back and I'm 80 years old and I'm and I'm I'm sitting in my deathbed, did I say I did what I want to or I could have done what I want to with my life? And I'm leaving nothing but my true authentic self. I'm leaving my experience, my my trials and tribulations. The hey, Drake said it started from the bottom now here, but now Drake didn't start from the bottom.
SPEAKER_03:But all right, but like I don't know about Drake anymore. What's going on with this guy, man? Whoa.
SPEAKER_00:Let's let's leave let's leave let's leave uh um bro then he went from he went from Kanye to Drake. What's going on here? Ooh, hey, you're saying I'm making sure everybody everybody get their just does now but but like like and I think that's the main thing is like I'm I wanna I want to to show to leave persistent perseverance so on on my arm I have right here because I'm covered up but I have perseverance you're saying what did you perse persevere through now my future can look back and say you know what I persevere through a lot and guess where I'm at right now you're saying I love that man my my last question because I I think that everything that you have gone through all of the stuff that you've created this generational impact that you are are you are still building like you've built it but you're still building on it if you could look back at 19-year-old Mark Kenley what advice would you give to your younger self or someone that's in your position that that is in a very similar position at 19 years old? Like what kind of advice would you give them?
SPEAKER_01:One is learn to have fun, right? Don't don't take everything too seriously, you know, learn to enjoy the the experience of life. Um and don't don't pigeonhole yourself to just this is this is it, this is how life should be, this is take the time to travel, take the time to see the world, take the time to open your eyes and explore. Number two, remember not everything la like pain doesn't last forever, trauma doesn't last forever. You have these experiences in life that are stories to help someone else grow, someone else see. Just because you don't get the applause, the hand clap, the pat in the back, the the words of affirmation doesn't mean that somebody is not listening to you, not watching you. Continue to uh develop your experience, continue to you know grow through your story. And last but not least, uh don't forget uh to reach back. The people that that that got you to where you're from, the people that that that that was there for you when you was growing, don't forget to reach back, don't forget to go back and thank them. Because a lot of times when we go on our journey, we think, oh, we're self-made, but there's people that have been helping us out. You say, thank them. I appreciate them. You're saying Alex, I thank you. Derek, I thank you, you know what I'm saying? Because, you know, you get this is a a great opportunity. And and I think uh that is uh the three things I would tell 19-year-old self, you know what I'm saying, just have fun. Just remember your your experience is just this for a moment, but always remember that is it's your experience and you can overcome it. And last but not least, don't forget the people that help you to get to where you are now. Thank them. You're saying every good experience, every bad experience is is something that's that's made you who you who you are you are. If you change that experience, you change who you became.
SPEAKER_00:Dude, I love it. I love it, man. I thoroughly enjoyed today's conversation because I for myself and my and I'm not gonna dive into it, but looking back, I had a I had a business when I was in the military, and I struggled so hard, man, as being a chief in the Navy, having a restaurant, being a dad, you know, all of these things. And today I feel like you gave a lot of tangible advice that, you know, myself looking back at it, I could, I could apply that to my, you know, that situation, and things could have been so much better. So I just want to say thank you so much for sharing that because your story gives permission for others to share theirs, right? Everybody that shares their story, they're paving the way for people to know that they're not alone, number one, but number two, like how we push each other up is by sharing our stories and connecting and relating and things of that nature.
SPEAKER_01:No, no, I appreciate it. Thank you, thank you, man. Like I I I I truly enjoyed it. I feel like I grew. I grew a lot. I I usually I'm gonna tell you, I'm a I'm a I'm a private person. That's what half my Instagram you you didn't see quotes and nothing but scenery in the background.
SPEAKER_00:But I can't see his face on his IG. What's going on here? Is he real? Is he is is he one of those people that's hiding in a white van? What's going on? Honestly, you got your IG is fire. Like, I I really love it. I've been I've been looking at your posts and stuff, man. You're you're inspirational in itself. So I feel like that's something that you should be. I know we talked about the one thing being able to get through a lot of stuff, but you you got a you got something you're building over there that I can see, especially like inspiring people.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah. I I that's that's I was that's that's what I want to do. I want to inspire people. I I just want to make let people know, like, man, listen, I ain't I'm not no different from anybody else. I'm just a person who just desire more and wants to do more and don't want to set it for less. And if I can do it, trust me, you can do it.
SPEAKER_00:I love it. You're you're about to get out of the Navy too. So what's what's next for you, man? Before we get off this podcast, what's next for you?
SPEAKER_01:Um, what's next for me right now is continue to be in my business. I'm working on becoming uh eventually a motivational speaker and um working on my second book. My second book coming out coming out. Um, you know. What's up, man? What's going on?
SPEAKER_00:Hey, we're live right now with uh Derek and someone else. You gotta introduce us, Derek.
SPEAKER_03:Oh yeah. Hey, what's going on? Uh I'm ABM Molter.
SPEAKER_00:Oh no, no, not no, don't do that. Don't do that.
SPEAKER_02:Um, I'm willing.
SPEAKER_00:Come on, man. My man. Derek said Derek set you up for failure there. Maybe 18 years. Yo, so those that are listening, uh, Derek hat is a guy that he's cutting his hair right now, and Derek's in the military still, just like uh Mark Kinley. And you know, we're in this podcast, and he introduces himself as a rank like ABF, ABF one, you said.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, so lobbies, that's what they say.
SPEAKER_00:Hey, that's all I know. Hey, there's no there's no hate, man. We respect, we respect you all and your service to the country.
SPEAKER_01:I think we serve I'm just appreciate it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A lot a lot of people, a lot of people be like, that his first name? Like, no, no, no, no. Yeah, no, I get it, man.
SPEAKER_00:It's just it's just common, man.
SPEAKER_03:It don't stop, man.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, give us give us some inspirational words before we get off here, man.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, man. This is this is the no-name podcast where we talk about anything and everything and nothing at the same time.
SPEAKER_03:Man, uh what can I say? What can I say? Alright, one of my favorite classics is just be the change you want to see in the world. A lot of people like to complain, but to what means? If you don't plan on making it better, you're probably making it worse.
SPEAKER_02:I love that. Did you pull that from I'm asking questions?
SPEAKER_00:No, no, no, no, no. Because you remind me a lot of uh he's retired now. Flea Master Chief Kemp. You remember that guy? Shout out, shout out to Flea Master Chief Kemp if he's listening to this podcast.
SPEAKER_03:I didn't get it from him, but he may he may have said it.
SPEAKER_00:No, these he's inspiring just like you are.
SPEAKER_03:I wholeheartedly believe that one.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Man, that's dope, man. That's dope. Yeah, no, I appreciate this moment, I appreciate the time, man. Um, and just just remember, like, you're saying, don't ever think that that you reach your potential. Every day, you got a new level to reach, man. So don't stop growing. Because if you stop growing, you you you what you're gonna do is go with away, and then that's it. Continue to grow, continue to put yourself, continue to put yourself in a position that you want to be in, you want to thrive, you want to show people. And as you continue to grow, people are gonna see your light, see your shine. And at the end of the day, you're saying you owe it to yourself to be the best person for yourself.
SPEAKER_00:I love it. Hey, for those, anybody that loves what you're saying, like your message resonates. How can people reach out to you? They can follow you. You got any social handle handle? What is it?
SPEAKER_01:You can follow me on this. Is this Mark Kenley Inspires? You can also follow me on my business page, which is uh inside the chat box. You can email me at incb.enterprise at gmail.com. We can go ahead and exchange information. So you can follow me on Facebook as well. You're saying uh Mark Kenley Villier. I'm the only one in in Facebook. Trust me, two billion people type my first and last name. M-A-R-C-K-E-N-D-L-Y, V S and Victor, I-L-L-I-E-R-S, and I'll be the only one popping up. Trust me. Mark Zuckerberg got me right there.
SPEAKER_00:I tell you what, man, when you when I was introduced to you, I thought you were it was two names. Like I thought it was your first and your last name. And it's your first name only. I was like, that's dope. That's like a really unique first name. So I can tell you I've never heard of a Mark Kenley before.
SPEAKER_01:I think I yeah, I'm I'm literally the only one. I uh it was funny. Um, yeah, somebody was like, I never, I never I never saw nobody spell your name like that. I was like, trust me. Uh uh the host, I'll give you a quick story about that one. My name was supposed to be spelled like McKenzie, like the 23rd president, but my parents didn't know how to spell McKinsey, so this put this phonetically said Markenley.
SPEAKER_00:No, you gotta love that. You gotta love it. My my in-laws are Dominican, and like the way they pronounce it, is you can you can just tell, like they they have they are trying to make it sound like what it like the American spelling, but it's how it just phonetically comes out, like you said.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, right. Hey, you know what? I'm I'm I'm happy that they did it because the other name they had me, I I wouldn't be happy with it.
SPEAKER_00:You're gonna you're gonna share that with us so the the world can can hear.
SPEAKER_01:Well, my mom wanted to name me Ashley. Okay. So my dad was like, no. Yeah, thank you. I appreciate my father for stepping in on that one.
SPEAKER_00:Hey, shout out to Pops, shout out to Pop, sir, man. Hey, so anybody that is listening, that they love this, please reach out to Mark Kinley. He's an amazing man and an amazing entrepreneur. He's amazing, amazing serviceman. Like we could we could go list on and on. Reach out for for anybody that wants to jump on the podcast, just like Mark Kenley. Send us a message. We'll chop it up. We'll see if it's a fit. Thank you so much, Mark Hanley, for the to the for the legacy, the leadership, and the life today. And uh man, we'll we'll talk to you soon.
SPEAKER_01:I appreciate it, appreciate it, thank you, thank you.
SPEAKER_00:Stay blessed, stay blessed. All right, brother.