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This week we decide who's in the wrong in a segment NOT sponsored by the Guardian (but it could be *eyes*). 

We ALSO chat StumbleUpon, picking up coins and Stumpy's favourite Star War.

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SPEAKER_07

Do my lips look pink to you today?

SPEAKER_05

Before we start. Have have you been making out of a bubblegum machine?

SPEAKER_00

Because you look sort of sexy. I'm into it, but uh it's it's very kissy. Give me a little kissy wissy.

SPEAKER_05

It's like you're like a chimp with like a with it's like with the bubblegum ho hanging out of his ass.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I look at you and I do see it.

SPEAKER_06

Pink! What have you been eating?

SPEAKER_05

I don't know. It's really weird. It doesn't look like that. Like pink on my recording on my main screen. They're like really coming through. The people are seeing that pinkness. It's it's kind of beautiful. You know the uh the picture behind you in the mirror? Have you been kissing it? Have you been making it out of that corner of your picture again? Maybe. That was painted by a member of Hat Films. That was painted by uh Ross Hornby of Hat Films. Um it's huge, it's absolutely gigantic. That picture. It's like nearly as wide as my sofa. It's it's it's really big. Yeah. It looks quite small in your mirror. Audio listeners, fuck yourselves. Fuck yourselves. In a mirror, it doesn't look that big. It sort of looks like a normal it looks the same size as your London Major poster. Let me get it down. It's honestly massive. Because I thought, because I I tried to transport it in the boot of my car and it wouldn't really fit, so I had to crush a corner of it.

SPEAKER_00

You broke it.

SPEAKER_05

They made it for you and you broke it.

SPEAKER_00

Oh shit, it it goes further. Oh damn. Look at that. That is fabulous. That has got all the colours of the bow, bro.

SPEAKER_05

It's cool, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00

It is really cool.

SPEAKER_05

No, I rate that.

SPEAKER_00

I think that's that's kind of pretty.

SPEAKER_05

That's kind of sexy with it. They did like an art sale. Sorry, that sounds horrible for people. They did like an art sale um a while ago, and um they just like made stuff. And uh for some reason this genuinely resonated with me. I genuinely really liked it. I just thought it was like cool colours and like fireworks and stuff.

SPEAKER_04

That's how it resonated with you.

SPEAKER_05

Sorry, when you said it resonated with you, I thought you were gonna say, oh, it really made me think of war or the apocalypse. But no, it resonated with you in the sense that there were cool colours and fireworks and stuff. Oh, he's he's away from the mic. I shouldn't be talking to him. He might not even be able to hear me. Stumpy, you're an ugly, one-eyed, little, rat, nasty, bad head, shit jumpered, bad music-tasted goblin. Don't talk about yourself like that. Hey! I'm the bad music-tasted goblin. You're the bad person. Um, yes, that's fun. I've also got a new little guest behind me. Can you see the bear? There's a bear bear. Is it really fat? It looks really fat. It's like a fat, like a really sad looking bear. It doesn't look like depressed. Oh, hang on, this is fucking show and tell him I often. Oh, here we go again. Alright, we're going again, everyone. Round two, audio listeners. Continue to fuck yourselves as if you're not already doing it enough. Oh, he's he's he's pinker. He's more purple than I thought he'd be.

SPEAKER_07

Look at him!

SPEAKER_05

Sweet is that. Can you climb inside him? Like, um, like, you know, in um I think it's Star Wars. Oh, when it gets inside the um the Banther. The Chewbacca. The Torn? Is it it's either Tauntorn or a Banther? ATAT, I think it is. So it's so it's so it's when they're really cold on the planet Tusk, and Darth Maul is there, and Darth Maul is dead, and they get their lightsaber, and they open up Darth Maul, and they say, Look, climb inside him, man.

SPEAKER_04

Jar Jar sit, climb inside Darth Maul.

SPEAKER_07

Fuck That's obviously not Jar Jar. Jar Jar's a lot more like, here, what's up, man? I I like Darth Maul. I'm secretly a Sith Lord.

SPEAKER_06

So climb inside him and still, what insane Darth Maul.

SPEAKER_07

I loved when Han Solo cut him open. I watched that film the other day, weirdly. Um I say the other day, two months ago.

SPEAKER_05

Do you find that when you say the other day, it could honestly mean years? Oh yeah, completely.

SPEAKER_00

I I I have that with um I still refer to like Stereophonics' 12-year-old album as oh, it's their new album. The one that has It Means Nothing, you know that song like It Means Nothing. Because I remember hearing that song once and going, Oh, it's a new song by Stereophonics. Yeah. So now to me, that's always their new song.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, that's fair. I think like the other day I was I was chatting to a mum because she came up and I was saying, like, um, uh, oh, you know when uh you came up the other day? It was about a year ago. And I was like, I don't know. She was like, Yeah. The other day can mean any period of time. Because the other day could also mean literally yesterday, or it could mean a year ago, or apparently 12 years for you. Well, the other day I did try watching Star Wars. Um we had a friend that was uh sort of really mad keen for it. Actually, it was a girl that one of I didn't fancy her, but one of us fancied. So we were like, oh yeah, we'll all watch Star Wars of you.

SPEAKER_00

I didn't like it, I didn't really care for it that much.

SPEAKER_05

Which one?

SPEAKER_00

I've tried.

SPEAKER_05

Um I never knew this about I've got Star Wars stuff behind me. I've got the Millennium Falcon Lego, I've got the Imperial Star Destroyer Lego, on my windowsill, I've got an ATST. Downstairs, I've got the X-Wing Lego, I've got fucking everything. All along, you don't even know who Han Pissing Solo is. And you look a little bit like Darth Vader without the mask. Oh, he's quite eggular.

SPEAKER_07

He's fucking burnt and horrible. He's all burned and grim, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I've seen yeah, no, I I've seen them. I saw So we look we went through the originals, like the the 80s ones.

SPEAKER_05

And it was Do you mean 456 or do you mean 123?

SPEAKER_00

Uh no, because the uh ri 'cause the one, two, three are like two thousands.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, but no, but as in I didn't know if you meant the originals as in like You didn't know if I was stupid. Whether it was the prequels or the sequels that you were on about. So you're on about from the eighties. The 1980s prequel. The prequels from the eighties, they're all the 2000s ones. So that's the thing. Okay, yeah, I was on the 100s. Do you see why? Do you see why I did the sequ the sequels from the eighties is what I mean. I've seen the sequels from the eighties, and then I've seen the prequels um from the 2000s and now. From the 2000s, yeah. Yeah. I know you like your rap lyrics. You want to hear a rap lyric from Flowbots that I really like? Oh, I've always wanted you to sing Flowbots to me. I'm not going to be able to do that. You can ride a bike with no handlebars. Is it that one? Yeah, them, for any non-flowbot heads in chat. Um, where they go, uh it's it's one of their earlier things. I think it's before handlebars came out, before their only song sang. Sorry? So okay.

SPEAKER_07

So it's I I deny your history, quite frankly, but okay.

SPEAKER_05

Where they go, um uh the crowd start panicking because they don't know how to act like Anakin. Very good. That's very good. I always like that. I wonder what you think of that. Uh yeah, quite sort of boring and tame. You're very rude. I'm sorry. Very mean. Very mean. And then they go, I can run about over handlebells.

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Yeah!

SPEAKER_05

The crowd goes wild! It's limbs, baby! Absolutely. It's absolute limbs at the all the flowheads are going crazy for that. So you've So you watched which ones? Just the like I've seen all of them. I have seen all of them at different times. But you just watched through the originals in the 80s. One, two, three, five, five, five, five, four, five, six, four, five, six. We watched the four, five, six, I didn't really care for any of them. I remember seeing one, two, and three at the cinema. Uh I liked the race. That was fun. Pod racing's coolest. I wasn't old enough to realise how bad the acting was or how annoying Jar Jar was. Oh, fucking Misa gonna kill myself. Like, he's so. I watched them. I watched the uh the prequels, uh, where he's like, I don't know which one it is, I can't remember. Uh, where there's all like the invasion on Queen Amadala's like palace and whatever, and uh Jar Jar's cutting about and he takes Qui-Gon Jin and uh uh Ben, uh Obi-Wan Kanobi together, oh big Ben of himself, you and McGregor, he's got a fucking little rat tail. Holy fuck, he's so annoying. Because everything, what he falls upwards, everything, and that's his entire character is obviously he makes a silly mistake, ha ha ha, we're all being silly, and then now uh he then it ends up working, you know. He he makes his mistake. Jar Jar. Yeah. I see. Okay. So is he active is he an active plot blocker? Like anytime so there's a bit of momentum, he walks in and goes, ee, is that me? Uh not I don't even think he's a plot blocker. I think that he is. He's almost like, what's it called? Uh is it Deus Ex Machina? Is that a thing where it's like the thing that just solves the thing? Is that what that means? Basically, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So Doctor Who is known for those where the Sonic screwdriver's about to die, and then and then he goes like, unless I can turn my sonic screwdriver to 8.7 I did it, it works.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Um, yeah, he just everything he does, the thing that annoyed me the most is, and this frustrated me because he could have got so many people killed, right? It's a scathing review on Jar Jar Binks. So he could have got so many people killed. There was the the the the big fight towards the end of the movie, he's like uh guessing self-accent in amongst all the droids and whatever, and it's all like, oh my god, Misa's so scared. And then he's running back, he then like grabs onto the back of a uh a tank that's holding all these sort of like um uh big like electromagnetic balls that they were using to take down all of the droids' um like defenses and whatever, because they're all machinery, EMP them, excellent, right? They were then all turned, started to run away. He fucking opens up the back of it accidentally, and then all of then the like balls end up falling out and then killing a load of droids. But they're all like it could have killed so many people, he could have stopped the tank from driving. Like, and then oh, oh, Jar Jar. I did everybody fucking hates him. But when you watch it with like an adult lens of if this was a real person in a real military situation, they would march him ten feet back and shoot him in the back of the skull. Did you ever see uh back in back in the day when the internet was fun and there were different websites that people went to apart from just Reddit and Twitter and porn?

SPEAKER_04

Uh did you ever go on cracked?

SPEAKER_05

Holy Trinity. Exactly the big three. Did you ever go on cracked.com? I don't think so. And I know the name. They did uh listicles, so they did um, you know, five five ways big farmer is screwing you, and it'll be number one, five, number four, number one, right? That was their bread and butter. This explains a lot about your writing style. Basically, yeah, because it was based when I used to actually use the internet and consume rather than create in 2006. Um the other day when you're on crack.com, you saw some listicles. I wish. I wish they'd bring back crack.com. Uh actually, one of their biggest writers, a guy called David Wong. He or his pen name was David Wong. He's a he's a white guy, so he ended up changing that when you know society said don't have a pen name like David Wong if you're a white bloke. And he was like, yeah, fair enough. Um that's a good change, yeah. Everybody wins the Amazon.

SPEAKER_00

He now does TikToks that you might have seen. He's like a 50-year-old guy. He's an author. I can't remember his now real name.

SPEAKER_05

I only remember David Wong because that's the articles that he used to write. I used to really like. David White. It's like um I've actually got a mate called David White. Uh he's actually it's basically Asian No, not at all. You know, uh, because then they can't stop these things. Um but you know, like the sort of TikTok filter of their face sort of in and out, and it's not a perfect green screen, and it's like clipping. Oh yes, yeah. So you want to put a like green screen filter on TikTok, not in front of a green screen. It's him there in front of various things. And he basically talks about like concepts, so he says, like, um Christ, I'm trying to think of a concept at the top of the head. He's like uh Polco tries to think of a concept. He's like, did you know uh uh a lot of books won't reveal the second character for the first 30 pages? Here's why. Or many people Good job, that was a good concept. Thank you.

SPEAKER_06

Or um don't go for two, just go for the one.

SPEAKER_05

Did you know that it's better to get one large pizza rather than two medium pizzas?

SPEAKER_04

But a lot of people get that wrong. Why do they get that wrong? He's on a roll. Can he get three concepts in a roll?

SPEAKER_05

It talks about like a mindset of that. Or um have you ever been Why do people hate it so much when headphones get yanked out of them? And then he'll show behind him like a Twitter thread, people going, Oh, I hate when headphones get yanked out of me. And then he'll say, Oh, the actual reason is because we've got these things in our ears that when we were, you know, cavemen, if that got triggered, we'd know that there were bats eating our ears.

SPEAKER_07

Didn't stick the landing, but I did like the effort. No, unfortunately not.

SPEAKER_05

I like the effort though. Okay, so it's David Wong. No, uh Art is formerly known as David Pargin. Jason Pargin is his name. Google Jason Pargin and tell me if you recognise it. Because he he he's always all up in my business when I go on Facebook because I'm 50. I've never seen this man in my life. I probably don't really look at interesting. Oh he he wrote uh when as David Wong, he made a film called John Dies at the end, which you might have heard of. 2012. 2012. No.

SPEAKER_03

John I've seen the film 2012. Is that what you're on about? Sorry.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, he he wrote in it, starred it, and and wrote the theme tune for 2012.

SPEAKER_05

The cover for John Dies at the end is awful. Oh yeah? I'm gonna send it to you, and I'm sorry, King. Maybe I don't know if we're gonna put this out there for John Dies in the end heads, but look at that cover. It's very 90s, isn't it? It's the guy on the left. Is that the guy from Stranger Things? Is that Murray from Stranger Things? Oh I mean, Paul Giamatti might be in Stranger Things, but are you thinking of David Harbour? It's not David Harbour.

SPEAKER_07

No, no, no, no, no, Murray, the guy who's like the weird conspiracy theorist in Stranger Things. Is that Murray from Stranger Things?

SPEAKER_05

It looks more like him. No, that's Paul Giamatti who's in the show Billions and has a really good voice. He's because he speaks like this. He's got to be in other films. Yeah. Yeah, I'm very sure. And that's not Murray. Not still not Murray. Sure.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, uh somebody's gonna keep on Googling. Hopefully, you guys are enjoying this. On this very uh pop culture episode of officially He's not Murray in Stranger Things.

SPEAKER_05

The best podcast on the internet.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, no, yeah. Paul Giamatti does not play Murray in Stranger Things, I can confirm.

SPEAKER_05

Anyway, anyway, the sort of conversation you were having earlier, right? About officially David. That's one of my favourites. That is that's one of my favourite intros that we've done. Oh yeah, Grat.com, as well as doing listicles from David Wong, who is now called Jason Polly. Artist formerly known as David Wong. Yeah, and he does recommend. Yeah. Who's not in Stranger Things? Not Murray in Stranger Things. But David Harbour is. Uh they also did videos, and they had one, I can't remember what it was called, but it was basically four of them in a um in a diner. Okay, and they would discuss pop culture to real depths. So it would be like, is Morty evil in Rick and Morty? And they're all arguing different points. Like, no, of course Morty's not evil. He's followed by his grandfather. I love conversations like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know the sort of thing. Or you're really diving into it. And ultimately, it doesn't matter. But then the conversation's ruined when someone says, This doesn't matter. This isn't real, by the way. It's like, God forbid a man have some whimsy and want to discuss this. Like, I agree with you completely. It's a fun little conversation. I know it doesn't matter. We're all here under the assumption this doesn't matter. And that's okay, you know?

SPEAKER_04

No, but it's just a cartoon, Stumpy. Why would you discuss The Simpsons? It's just the cartoon. Funny?

SPEAKER_05

Enjoyable.

SPEAKER_04

It's just a kid's film.

SPEAKER_05

Why would you discuss Harry Potter, Stumpy? Uh find it just crazy. Like, uh those people, zero whimsy in their lives, really, honestly. Yeah, no, I agree with you completely there. I've had it so many times where I've sort of passionately stated how.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, exactly.

SPEAKER_05

Like, you know, things like, you know, Jar Jar Bing should be court-martialed.

SPEAKER_00

That's a great opinion. Brilliant.

SPEAKER_05

I don't care about Star Wars, but if I saw that video title, I'd click on it because I'd assume there'd be clips and there'd be arguments about it and stuff like that. And I'm I'm well into that. Yeah, I like that a lot. I think it's also, you know that those people have researched things in depth. So wait, so what was that about cracked? What was the point about cracked? They made video they made videos like that, where it was four of them in a motel room, like a green screen motel room, or motel, sorry, diner, and they would be um talking through pop culture to to incredible depths. Like they'd say, oh, but in episode six.

SPEAKER_00

This is in about 2008, 2009, maybe.

SPEAKER_05

Not that much was made at that point either. So they had to like really go in the doldrums.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, they were like, Did you know that Rosebund is the name of the sled every episode?

SPEAKER_07

Red rum is murder backwards. Like, what the fuck? This is insane. And someone disagrees. I don't know where we can go from here, because I think it just is. Johnny.

SPEAKER_00

He's not even called Johnny!

SPEAKER_05

This is crazy. This is unbelievable. Wow. Yeah, no, I never really went on crack.com. My first experience of like a forum-y thing. Were you ever into RSS feeds? I know what the icon looks like.

SPEAKER_03

The little orange icon with the little lines, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

But I don't really know what it is apart from that. I don't either, right? But I was I was hoping you could show me. Um so I I years ago, it's when I had like a phone, um, like an O it was a phone made by O2 specifically. The phone was an O2 ice, right? Oh the name didn't age very well. Look at the phone, right? O2 Ice. Oh, that is why.

SPEAKER_00

Look how small it is in that guy's hand.

SPEAKER_05

Tiny little phone, right? And also big the edges of it, like one side kind of like curves up, then the other side does like a counter curve, so it's like that on the ends.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, parallel, not a parallelogram. Is that parallelogram?

SPEAKER_05

Yes, yeah, parallelogram, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Like that. Really sick phone, right? I remember I was about to say I got an app. It wasn't an app. I don't know what the fuck it was. Whatever the fucking thing is on the O2I's operating system. Seven. Yeah. Um I got a uh program on there where it it received an RSS feed of news, and it was like three the three to five headlines of the day, and it would just like send you the headline. I'd look at it in bed like every night, right? Okay, it was like send me like the three off three to five headlines, and you click on it, and it would have maybe a paragraph of what went on. Yeah, literally, and it was like really basic text and explain to me what the headline was about.

SPEAKER_07

And a lot of the time it was I'm like, how old am I at this point? Like 11. And it was like war in Jordan, and I'm like, oh, what's that about? And I'm looking at it and exploded. Very 2011 news as well. Very good. Peter Andre's all over them.

SPEAKER_05

So I um uh uh ended up just like looking at all of these RSS feeds, and that was my first introduction to like not even a for a proto-forum because there was no discussion. That's what I was gonna ask for the comments. That's why it's not even like really for no no comments.

SPEAKER_07

It was just you receive these headlines, and then you read the thing, no saying that was good or that was bad, just yeah, this is what it is, this is the news that this man has decided that I needed to be told that day.

SPEAKER_05

And then one it was.

SPEAKER_00

They were dictating what you ingested. I have no idea who said anything.

SPEAKER_05

And then God, it might have even it was no before 2011, or well before 2011. God didn't know this is like 2006, apparently, 02 ice. Yeah, six, seven, we uh eight, something like that.

SPEAKER_07

Um, and yeah, I remember getting my news like that, and then one day there was a single headline, and it said something like, We're stopping this, and then it never continued.

SPEAKER_05

It just ended there was no like thanks so much, everybody, for like tuning into the RSS video. I can see that there was, you know, it was being pulled by 480,000 people or whatever. It was just, I'm dumb.

SPEAKER_00

So sad. Yeah, I feel so sorry for you. You had a little community of just one name.

SPEAKER_07

Which is a man that sent me news.

SPEAKER_05

So you well, you'd see the headline, and then you'd have to guess what it meant. So it would say, like, war announced in dot dot dot. Yeah, and then you click it, and then it would then say this little fountain.

SPEAKER_07

I'm like, I'm like, oh, fucking Middle East again.

SPEAKER_05

And I'm reading that when I'm like, you know, 10 years old. And then, but I also a lot of it is also like recession happening in America, because it's 2008. It's like Wall Street crashes, and I'm thinking, I don't know what any of that means. And then it's like baby tiger born in Berlin Zoo. And I'm like, Yeah! That's more like yeah, that's the good one. Why don't they show more of the good news? Did you ever hear of Stumble Upon? Yes. Oh, I loved Stumble Upon. The toolbar. It was so good, wasn't it? Yes, because you could just click like Stumble, and then it would just send you to fucking somewhere on the internet. Did you have to like submit your page to it, or did it just scrape the internet and just say? I believe it depends how in-depth the stumblehead you were. So if you were well into it, you could submit, you could look if you had upvotes or downvotes. If you were semi-into it, you could click like or dislike rather than just stumble next. And I that's where I was. You know, I'd stumble, boring, stumble, boring, stumble, oh, this is good. And and then as I don't know if it actually had algorithms back then. Um in like what 2008 again? Something like that. Yeah. But like, yeah, I used to hit like and and dislike. What you could also do, you could share it with your your stumble friends. Did you ever do that? No, I think it was one of the ones where I went onto it as like a bit of a gimmicky thing of I'm bored on the internet and social media hasn't been invented. So I I now need to be like, I think Reddit has not been invented yet. Yeah, Reddit's not been invented. Dig is sort of digging about, doing its thing, whatever. I've not been on YouTube at this point. I don't know that YouTube exists. So, yeah, I don't know what's going on. No, my first time on YouTube was like 2000 and oh, when I was in year like 10 or 9. I know the exact video, my first video I ever watched on YouTube. Was it day out at the zoo? It was not, God imagine. There's me, 2006.

SPEAKER_07

I've just seen the the Wall Street fucking just crashed. And then there's a man at a zoo. Fingers crossed it's Berlin where there's a tiger, I heard.

SPEAKER_05

Um, I remember it was um it was a uh video by a YouTuber that I used to really, really like called Toby Turner, Tobuscus. Oh yeah, who's now very bad. Um, and uh it was called my friend referenced it to me. It was called Bottle Boot. When was that released? This guy I can I because he said, Oh, I watched this video last night, it just came out, and it was called Bottle boot. And so I'll know the basically the exact day that I um uh first watched a YouTube video 15 years ago, apparently. That's 2011. 2010 3rd of December 2010. I was quite late to YouTube. You were quite late to YouTube, but you were too busy RSSing. I was RSSing my fucking nut off. Like I was loving it. Especially when you're going through his formative years, RSS would come through, breasts exist. You're like, oh, that's my nice.

SPEAKER_08

That's not it.

SPEAKER_07

I'm locked in. And now all of a sudden, I Google this. I asked Jeeves, Jordan, to try and find out about the war, and suddenly I'm presented by a pair of double F's, and I'm thinking, I've changed as a man.

SPEAKER_06

These lady managed to be a man.

SPEAKER_07

And also, honestly, these are my sand tunes. I've changed as Oman. Because they're also getting bombed at this point.

SPEAKER_06

Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_03

Goodness me.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, I'm I'm I'm barely 12 years old.

SPEAKER_03

Wow, what a time, man. What a time on the internet that was. But yeah, stumble upon. I never got that into stumble upon, I don't think.

SPEAKER_05

So what you could do, you could if you had like your dad friends, right? By their email address, if they had stumble upon themselves.

SPEAKER_00

And then when you found a website that you'd think they'd be interested in, you could then send it to them and it would appear as a notification in their toolbar. And they could click on it whenever they wanted. It was really and with a little comment as well. Like thought you'd enjoy this, or haha, just like you today, or whatever. It would like pop up.

SPEAKER_05

That's genuinely for that time. That's a big feature.

SPEAKER_00

It was phenomenal. I'd use that now. If I could send Stumble like articles, like business stuff to you, or sort of fun stuff to Linnea, maybe my two business stuff to you, fun stuff to Linnea.

SPEAKER_05

I'd use that. Genuinely, I would use that toolbar today. A lot of people, I bet younger people, would then say to me now, or to us now, because I completely agree, they'd say, Well, you can just copy the link and then send it to them on Discord. It's not the same, it's absolutely not the same thing. I want it to be in its own thing. I think that Discord's great and all that, and all these messaging things are all really good. There's not that much. It's not exciting. If I saw a sumble notification from my mate, I'd be like, that's cool. Like, that's now a thing in its own thing that you thought when you were in this programme, I want to send it to them. If they just send me a link randomly and say thought of you, I think it's a scam. I'm like, oh, this is weird.

SPEAKER_00

Scam or you'd forget. Because you you sent me stuff and I thought, oh, I'll get back to that later. Next day, you know, more chat comes in and then you forget, right? And it happens. Whereas the fact that Stumble Upon was existing in its own little place on your toolbar, it's always you can, you know, hide it and show it if you're in the mood for it or whatever.

SPEAKER_05

But it's always visible. So you can go, oh, I haven't caught up with these five things I've been sent. I'm a bit bored. Let's do that now. I guess it's an episode package.

SPEAKER_03

You're sending your mate like a video on TikTok. It's similar. We've got like on TikTok, we've um I send stuff uh to Anna and I will watch it like of an evening.

SPEAKER_05

So like throughout the day, if I'm like making a coffee, I'll like go on TikTok. I'm like, oh that's funny, we'll watch that later together. Or like I'll send like stuff to um uh like one of her friends and like with all like streaks going on and whatever, and it's all very fun, it's all very nice, because the only thing that we do is send each other content that we have enjoyed and will then want the other person to watch. And so that's that's sort of similar, but it's all then just videos. It's not like this was an interesting article or something. Yeah, no, I I I get that. And I I think the fact that it is in one little standalone package helps. So yeah, Stumbleupon devs. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Bring it back. Are we are we big enough to bring back Stumble Upon yet? Is this podcast of that scale?

SPEAKER_05

I I hope that there's some stumbleheads in chat that are thinking, you know what, I can get this going. Hashtag stumbleupon. Do you think that's a very populated hashtag? I don't know. Well, they I I I I daren't check because it would involve going on Twitter and I'd probably get, I don't know, space aids or something. Yes.

SPEAKER_00

Um but if you do want this podcast to grow big enough to be able to have some sort of sway, because if you're liking our conversation and you want it to grow, what can they do, Stumpy Goblin?

SPEAKER_05

You can uh comment, you can like, you can subscribe to the channel. Do all of the things it'd be very, very appreciated. And send it to a mate. Send it to her. I'm gonna say some descriptors, and whoever this reminds you of, you must send it to that person. One each, one each. So, the first one I'm gonna say, uh tall. I'll go with uh fun. Okay, and I will say religious.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_05

So you'll say fun, religious, and uh between the ages of 28 and 34 or so, uh 70% of the UK, maybe 20% in the US. Okay. Um, and wealthy, full-time job. Alan Ways loves watching podcasts. If they tick that demographic. Send it to them. And if they're a developer of a stumble upon, trust it to them.

SPEAKER_06

Stumble into the thing in 15 years.

SPEAKER_07

Download the stumble upon toolbar and stumble it to the dev. I'd love to. The main one.

SPEAKER_05

The main one is to just bloody sub, please. Thank you very much. Sub, like, comment, all those things. Thank you guys. Thank you, thank you. I've uh I've seen a challenge on the internet something. I want to see you try it. Okay. Oh my god, do I need to move? No, no, no, you're right. It's a speaking one. So warm your mouth up. Let's see some mouth water. Oh, oh, I have like I've thought I've cut my mouth a little bit here. I don't know what on. Because I've not had a Lenin sharp recently. I've not had any like big nachos. What's got a spot there? And my lips are really pink. My mouth is falling apart, is what I'm saying. How many big nachos do you have? I'd have to say I've not had any big nachos as a first thought though. I've not had any like big sharp crisps. Because that's what would cut that's not weird, is it? It's just it's just funny, it's just it's innocent. It's sweet and it's innocent, and I like it. Okay. What else would it be? I don't know. Paper cuts? Chelsea smiles. It's weirder. It's so much weirder to say, I've not been eating paper recently. Okay, and I've not had a Chelsea smile either. I'd be like, okay, fair enough then. But have you had any big nachos? Uh inevitably.

SPEAKER_06

With milk as my cereal.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, that's fair. Okay. Are you ready? Are you ready for this challenge? You won't. Okay. Can you say Coca-Cola without your lips touching?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, be warm, big warm, being nimble. Okay, I've warmed up. Okay. Coca-Cola.

SPEAKER_05

Ooh. Okay, pretty good. That was good, though. You did it. Uh pointless though, because your lips don't touch anyway. Coca-Cola.

SPEAKER_03

Oh.

SPEAKER_05

What? Fug! I felt so proud. That was so fucking proud!

SPEAKER_08

It was Fug!

SPEAKER_05

I was so good then! I was like, I've nailed that.

SPEAKER_06

Play it like that home every time.

SPEAKER_05

I also bet, I bet there's somebody who's like walking through the park listening to this, or they're on the train or something, and they under their breath they went, hola.

SPEAKER_07

And then they thought, gosh. And you've said that, you've made, I think, upwards of 15 people feel very silly with that.

SPEAKER_05

Well, I I I saw it on TikTok. And I also tried it myself. It was like it was like, yeah, it was like some middle-aged woman who was like showing you know testing her mum or her husband or whatever, and then she does the same sort of giggle as I just did.

SPEAKER_06

Because you know it's coming, and you're begging they try and do it, and you did it.

SPEAKER_07

I j it's annoying though, because when you then say Coca-Cola, obviously you can say it normally, but it felt like I put so much effort into them saying Coca-Cola.

SPEAKER_05

Why did it make it sound stupider?

SPEAKER_04

I mean you'd have if you'd have just said yeah, Coca-Cola, I'd like to write twat.

SPEAKER_05

Well fucking obviously I can. Twat alert, you. Yeah. You would have been. No, no, I would have felt very, very silly. God. I like those little um those little internet things. They they come around every now and then. Like that is a classic sort of like kids challenge. Like, can you do this, can you do that? And it turns out there's some twist, you know. I know, God. Well, you made me feel very silly. You made me feel very, very silly.

SPEAKER_00

Good. Now can you punch yourself in the face?

SPEAKER_05

I don't want to. Ah, you've you've succeeded. Yeah. That was the test. Is that what that woman also did to her mum? Can you punch yourself in the face? And mum was like, yeah, go on.

SPEAKER_06

I'll have to fall me for that. I'll have to falling for that. I guess I I guess I bloody well can.

SPEAKER_04

I guess I buddy well can.

SPEAKER_05

Um I went to see uh my my niece and nephews yesterday. Okay. And they were singing the Peptobism song. What the fucking hell are you on about? Have you not seen the Pepto Bismol song? Have you just downloaded TikTok? And then they were like, oh, I've got a TikTok challenge. Oh, there's a Pepto Bismol song. No, no, no, no. It's not as far as I know TikTok. As far as I know, it's nothing internet y. It is just it's a it's an organic thing that the kids are all singing. The Pepto Bismol song. It's a TV advert. Oh, it's like because it's the American like pink uh like what was ours, Gavascon. It's like they're Gavascon, right?

SPEAKER_04

With the fireman going, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Okay, have you not seen this advert? Not at all. Right. I'm gonna have to show you this. Okay. I don't really watch TV though. I mean maybe that's my downfall. Yeah, that that does make it trickier. Okay, so have you not seen have you not seen this at all? Uh I have got no idea what what's going on. It looks, honestly, this first shot looks AI. If only. Right, on your go, when you're ready, press play. Okay.

SPEAKER_08

Because we've got a little Ohio.

SPEAKER_05

What the fuck is this? Oh.

SPEAKER_07

There you go again.

SPEAKER_08

Diodie yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, abysmal. Pink.

SPEAKER_05

There you go. Imagine that being the the the apex of your acting career. And the kids kept going diarrhea. Which is fair, because that's a great little jingle. Diardy. I like how he's Welsh, that's also fun. So it does add to it. So they they're well so I'm really struggling with this one. So what's your issue? My pro I've got We're at Bob's Cafe, bit of context. Interior. Bob's Cafe. Interior Bob Fade Up. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Fade up. Make it look as AI as possible. Make them very shiny. So I think like What the fuck? The kids are singing a Pepto Bismol ad, and they made it into because this is clearly trying to be a viral song. It's like um uh uh uh the Just Eat one or Domino.

SPEAKER_00

Just eat, yeah, yeah. And they're all good, they're all good, right? But I I saw this at the gym because that's the only time I really watched telly.

SPEAKER_05

Oh yeah, I'm at the gym, I'm on my treadmill, I'm sort of running, you know, sort of like a sort of uh 15-minute 5k, so a bit of a slow one, just sort of. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Classic, yeah, yeah. Conversational together. Yeah, we're having a chat of the nair as I'm doing my 15-minute 5k. And then on the TVs in front of us, it cuts from sort of like war tournament ran, because it shows news for some reason at my gym. Bit depressing.

SPEAKER_06

What's happening in Jordan?

SPEAKER_05

Christ exploding everyone. Um and then yeah, it cut to this, and I was like, what on earth is this? So did you have it with audio at the gym? Um, a tiny bit. I sort of took my headphone down like, oh, okay, diode. Diode, yeah. And the kids were loving it. But I love I just love how colourful it all is. Wait a minute. Is that Frank from the basement yard? Where? Wait, wait, wait. Not yet. At the first basement yard! That genuinely might be him. I think it's him! You think he is You think that Frank from hashtag the basement yard is Frank L UK Peptobismolad? Is that fucking Murray from Stranger Things? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What's Frank from the basement yard up to? So he's already points at the Peptobismol, good for him. What's his thing? Little wink.

SPEAKER_08

Indigestion upset chalk.

SPEAKER_03

We need right, we need to do the dance. Get up. Get up. We need to Right, okay, so let's study the dance. Let's study the dance.

SPEAKER_04

I'm gonna have to take my headphones off, I'll be able to hear you. So Right, so the first one.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, I'm trying to pause it.

SPEAKER_04

Sorry. So Okay, I can hear you, but I'm muted.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, but wait, well we're both gonna be doing it. We're both gonna be doing it.

SPEAKER_05

We're trying to learn I can hear you, I can hear you. Speak.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, well, we're looking at the moves first. So, first move is So it's immediately it's a bit of that nausea. And it's heartburn. Heartburn. Yeah. That's Matthew Bainton, you know, from Horrible Histories.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. And uh budgie off Cavan Stacy. Indigestion. Okay.

SPEAKER_02

And then Upset stomach. Upset stomach!

SPEAKER_07

And then big ending.

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Big ending.

SPEAKER_07

Diodia!

SPEAKER_05

It's the leg. You have to lift the leg up.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. Are we ready?

SPEAKER_05

This is, I think, the most humiliated I've ever been in my life. Right, zoom your camera out if you can. Okay. Alright, I was gonna go with that. Wait, so it's when you've got let's watch it through one more time. So it's when you've got nausea.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, sorry to audio listeners. No, no, they can, you know, fuck them. Okay, so. Let's think of the words. Nausea. Indigestion. Indigestion.

SPEAKER_05

Upset stomach. So nausea. Heartburn. Indigestion. Upset and stomach. You ready?

SPEAKER_03

Right, yeah. Okay. This is Alright. Count us in.

SPEAKER_05

Count us in. Officially, unofficially, take one for the Pepto Bismol ad with uh Frank off the basement yard.

SPEAKER_04

When you've got nausea. Oh, we got nausea.

SPEAKER_05

Yes! We did it! There you go. We did it! Oh my god. So your niece and nephew were singing that. They loved it. They honestly went wild for it. You need to send in that clip in the family group chat.

unknown

No one.

SPEAKER_05

In the family chat!

unknown

No, they did not want to say that.

SPEAKER_05

God, wow, that was I mean.

SPEAKER_04

It was something.

SPEAKER_05

It was certainly something. I'm I'm proud of what we've achieved today, you know? I'm I'm very, very happy with that. You know. That's where you're in. I mean, that doesn't feel like I just cut So the g is it just is it just your least nephew that is singing that, or is that sweeping the nation as a song? I unlike you, mate, I don't go to enough schools to know. I've not heard them singing it. In the boot of my car, I rarely hear that song.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, true. I think you're protesting too much, frankly.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, maybe. God, wow. God, fair enough. Um, there was a uh a fun thing that you linked a little while ago. Oh yeah. Um called You be the bloody judge. Um on The Guardian. Do you want to explain what this is? Because I think it is great. I like it. Okay, good, I'm glad. So basically, The Guardian, for anyone who's not in the UK, is is the most left pretentious newspaper that's that's going to be fair. Or maybe the mirror's more left. It's not yeah, it's not the most it's still like lefty wokey. It's like, but then they're also sort of a bit shit in a lot of ways.

SPEAKER_00

I don't like racism.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, exactly. Woke. But they also do uh they do Adrian Child's headlines, which are which are great, which is like, you know, I tried cornflakes with rice and it changed my life. Or like ridiculous on us. Everyone loves those. Um but they've got a thing called You Be the Judge, where every week uh it's like flatmates or couples or family or whatever, where if they're bickering about something, they'll both post in their side of the story and have guardian readers post comments and there's like a there's like a voting thing, right? I thought it'd be fun if we could have a little look and see see who we're on the side of. So I've not read this one, might be really boring.

SPEAKER_00

Um I sent it to you earlier on on Discord. It's uh should my housemate stop warming her mug? And we can we can pick a different one if you want. If you want to look through and see if there's a heat. You know, you don't need to, if you just click doesn't matter a lot.

SPEAKER_03

I can't see it. Really? It says sign in. Oh.

SPEAKER_05

Can you log in with like Google? Oh, right. That's bad. That's bad from the guards. At least it's free. It is free. I've not paid to be on the guardian whatever. But yeah, from the guards. No, I'm not signed in. I'm not signed in. I'm logged in now, but now they've got my info. You're logged in and I'm not, so you're gonna go to the city. Fucking hell guardian! I don't want to pay you, go away. Right, okay, go on. But we we we can look at this one, or if you want, we can click on like the you be the judge thing and scroll through till there's one that takes you. I saw one that took my fancy. I saw one a bit further down that really took my fancy. Let's do that one. You be the judge. Oh my god, they love a banner, don't they? You be the judge. Should my daughter pay the fine we incurred dropping her off at the airport? Okay, uh, I've done a search for fine. I've found it, I've found it. Should we do one person's taking the prosecution? I'll do a defense. Uh yes, okay. So the prosecution, Margaret. So I can only assume she's the mother. God, I know a heck already. My daughter, Georgia, and I have had our fair share of ups and downs. She's quite short-sighted when it comes to disagreements and can't see my perspective a lot of the time. Immediately combated from Margaret. Exactly, yeah. That sets the scene as daughter being a right cow. I think that sets the scene as the mum being a bitch. No, that's what the mum thinks that daughter's a right cow. Okay, yeah. Recently, my partner Bill and I dropped her off at the airport for a holiday. She'd stayed at ours the night before as lived near the airport. All very normal. The next day, Bill said he'd drop her off at the airport and we use her car off the journey since it could fit all her luggage in. It was a favour to her and she was very grateful. All sounds good so far. Unlike unlike my daughter, who's normally a bitch. My big daughter. However, when she got home three weeks later, she called us to tell her that she had a parking ticket at home because we didn't pay the airport's drop-off charge when we arrived. I said, Oh, that's terrible, but you should have paid the fee. And Georgia said, I don't even know what that is. I was annoyed at the insinuation that I was to blame, and now Georgia's asked me for money to go towards paying the fine. However, when Georgia was away, Bill and I cleaned her car ourselves, so we've already done her plenty of favours. Irrelevant. You can't do it. She didn't ask me to be like, Yeah, exactly. And then be like, well, I'm not paying you because I've already done something worth that now. I cleaned your cars at different lanes. I didn't ask you to do that. It's very nice. Yeah, it's a very nice thing. Agreed. Airport drop-off charge in of itself, as a side note to Margaret, is fucking scam. It's outrageous. Like it's like it's like a fiver to drop somebody off at the airport. It's fucked. It's so stupid. So hate that immediately. That the airport's bad. I don't think there's many people that would defend that. I can't think. It's just a little big airport. Mr. Airport. Yeah, John Airport, yeah. Um okay. Uh Bill isn't her biological father.

SPEAKER_07

He and Does she know that?

SPEAKER_05

Is she dropping the guards? By the way, she's adopted. By the way, we've not told you this yet, Georgia, you bitch, but you are adopted. Um he and Georgia got on quite well, but she'd never ask him for money. I also don't want to bother Bill with the news that he and Kurt are fine when driving. But Georgia was quite stroppy with me, and I don't think it's strictly our fault as we were doing her a favour. Stroppy, brilliant word. Because it immediately infantiles and makes them seem like it's such a stupid annoyance. Uh Georgia is appealing against the fans to her a stalemate until the verdict comes out. But I've offered to foot half the bill and she doesn't think that's enough. What she's gonna give half her husband away. Half the bill, yeah, you look. You're gonna have his cock. Oh.

unknown

What?

SPEAKER_05

It's cut off. Oh man. Email it. Uh she said it was our job to look after the drop-off fee as we were the ones driving her. I understand that, but we didn't really have to drop her off in the first place. I believe I'm in the right, because as a mother, don't lie that, I've done my fair share for Georgia over the years, but she chose to. She choose to exist. Thank you for being a mum. That's nice. That's normal though. Uh but she gets very heated of money details like this. Sounds like you didn't do enough enough. I suppose kids have ever seen the bigger picture. Georgia is 32! She's like kid! Who's the who's the Harry Potter woman, the teacher that everyone hates? Because she's like, oh, actually. Oh, umbridge. She's very umbridged, this woman. It is a bit umbridge. Um uh Georgia's 32 and single, doesn't have kids of her own. Maybe when she does. Oh, Margaret! Margaret is I I won't know. I'll save it for a minute. Yeah, save it save it, save it, because we have to see Georgia's side. So we are now we're now moving on to Professor Umbridge's spinster daughter, age 32 space.

SPEAKER_06

Spinster bitch daughter, Georgia. But offense, Georgia. Adopted Georgia.

SPEAKER_00

I didn't know you had to pay for drop-off. Mum knew and didn't tell me, so she should help. Oh, very key words.

SPEAKER_07

That is different.

SPEAKER_00

Because I'm sure the thing is saying that she should pay. Should my daughter pay the fine we incurred? My side of daughter didn't pay the airport charge, so it's on her. Georgia says this cock up is all her mum's doing. Oh, okay. So that's the key, the help pain. Okay. If someone offers to do you a favour and they mean it, you should expect them to do it to the best of their ability. But my mum has a habit of doing half-assed favours, then getting annoyed when I call her out. She says, You should be grateful that we dropped you off at the airport. But she didn't follow through with everything and forgot to pay the drop-off fee. How is that my fault? As her partner Bill was driving my car instead of theirs, the fine is now in my name. I've done my research and I don't think I will have to pay the fine as the car park can't prove who was driving.

SPEAKER_05

It's your car and your responsibility though. Like It's not the car park's fault, that that someone's got to pay the fine. No, no, no. Look in the car and go, Oh, that's Bill, that's not Georgia, so we can't give the fine. Like anybody who's if your car gets into an incident, it is off your insurance unless somebody's got the insurance on their side.

SPEAKER_00

It wasn't nice to come back to two letters about this fine straight after my holiday, and it's already doubled. When I told my mum my immediate reaction was to blame me. Instead of admitting that she forgot the drop-off fee, she said, Oh, but you should have paid that. I don't even know what it is, as I've never driven to the airport before. Bill and mum have driven there many times and usually take their own car.

SPEAKER_05

They always remember the rules. They always remember the rules then.

SPEAKER_07

As if as if poor Bill, who by the way doesn't get his say in this, is thinking this little fucking shower.

SPEAKER_06

This one show her. Um, where are we up to?

SPEAKER_04

Uh uh They always remember the rules then. But the one time they took my car, they forgot.

SPEAKER_05

Funny that. Phil knows he's responsible for the fine.

SPEAKER_04

Maybe my mum hasn't told him.

SPEAKER_05

She seems to be blaming me to preserve their relationship. Fucking hell! I'd love to know how much this bill is. Not bill, the bill. How much is she owing? I agree. It's not mentioned how much the fine is. If it's like 20 quid, get over it. If it's 250 quid. Yes, exactly, yeah. I understand that they were both doing me a favour.

SPEAKER_00

I was grateful at the time and have thanked them many times, but the fact they helped me out doesn't make me liable for the fine. If they'd driven me there in their car, they would have just paid the fee. So why am I stressing about this? The fine is in my name as it's my car. But legally, I legally we're talking legal now. Legal. I don't think I'm liable. I put that in my appeal.

SPEAKER_05

I I respect her for appealing it. If at any point you can appeal it, you literally may as well. Because then the worst they say is no. And you're like, oh well, I'm back to where I was anyway.

SPEAKER_00

I'm waiting for the result of the appeal, but I will accept half of the fine from mum if we don't win. Hasn't she appealed that already? Yeah, I don't know what the conversation is. I also don't want to cause problems between her and Bill. But if this had happened with a friend or another family member, I would expect them to foot the entire bill and not just blame it on me.

SPEAKER_05

So to me, I both of their attitudes fucking stink.

SPEAKER_00

The way this is written is not like because it it wasn't about making their case, it was about anti the other person. Yes, it was.

SPEAKER_07

It's like, oh, Georgia always does this, she's always short-sighted.

SPEAKER_05

And then Georgia's like, oh mum's always nitpicking, she's always doing half-ass favours. My cu mum. My c of a mum. And my adopted stepdad or whatever. My cuck stepdad. My cuck dad. Anyway, I'm now in contact with my biological dad. Um, so I think, yeah, attitude stink. We can agree there. This is not about the bill. We I think like this is the straw that broke the camel's back. Can we say Bill and fine, just for clarity? Okay, and Bill might be fine, but that's not the point. So I think that they should. The mum has got responsible Bill or whoever, the couple has got responsibility to have paid that amount, but George was still in the car. And I will say they're also quite clear. At the airports I've been to, either you literally have to pay to get into the area, and then you then pay to get out, and then if you're within 15 minutes, it's say five quid. If then you're over 15 minutes, it's at a tenner or whatever, but you literally have to tap through. Clearly that's not the case here because they couldn't have done it. Um I think that it's on one of them to know, and if Bill has driven there before, he should be aware that this happens. But but it's also George's car, and I think that it's very valid for her to say, look, I've never done this before. She could have taken a bit of responsibility, I think, and said she's very much more. I messed up, but you do know. The daughter is very happy to pass the blame in every way. Like, oh, they should have known, oh, they never make this mistake when it's on theirs. Funny. I don't know this thing. I don't know how to.

SPEAKER_00

I also don't trust this dysfunctional family not to have caused all sorts of arguments during it. Do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_05

Like, I bet George was going, oh my god, I'm gonna go, where are we going? Oh my god, I'm gonna be late, uh, or whatever. Or maybe the mum will make stressed. Bill's just like, no, I didn't think Bill's stressed. I think he's just going, the fact that she references as well, like, oh, I don't want to cause relationship issues. Is she then saying that, you know, mum, Margaret and Bill, are they on are they in like a rocky patch at the moment? What's going on? Like, I want to know. I do want to know this. I was thinking, if this happened in my family and say that I was Georgia and my mum was Margaret, and then my stepdad was Bill, I can relate to Georgia here. I've got a stepdad. And I was thinking, I don't think at any point I would think this this is harsh on their relationship. I don't think I consider their relationship at any point. So clearly they're a little bit rocky regardless, right? For them to reference it. You'd you'd expect so, but it does seem like it's a very passive aggressive family in general. Should we should we say whose whose side we're on? Because we have yeah, no fence sitting.

SPEAKER_07

We can't.

SPEAKER_05

No fencing.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, so let's let's make it clear what we're defining here. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

So the mum thinks the daughter should pay it all, but she's graciously offered to pay half, but the mum thinks the daughter should pay it all. Yeah, because I suppose quite a big part of this is also the cost of the fine and the fact that already they agree on how to solve it to solve it.

SPEAKER_00

Let's say 100 quid.

SPEAKER_05

That's enough for it to then make an appeal worth it as well. Yeah, let's say let's say it's a hundred quid fine, okay? Should the mum pay the hundred quid fine or should the daughter pay the hundred quid fine? Can I just also chuck in a thing just to say I get more frustration from Georgia? Because while she was away, the fine also doubled. That's very annoying. There's no way that that goes on Bill or Margaret by any means. But that's also an annoying thing of like, oh fuck, like I had no idea, and now it's doubled. Okay, so let's say it's doubled from 75 to 150. Georgia. 75 to 150. And I'm saying after three, she's out to three seconds whose side we're on, daughter or mum? Can we say Margaret or Georgia? That's quite fun. Oh, that's so confusing to me. Okay, alright, now get in order. Okay, Margaret or Georgia. Margaret or the mum. Everybody in the comments, say whose side you're on as well here. Yep. So hang on, I need to think, I need to think. You've got seven seconds of thinking.

SPEAKER_00

Seven, six, just keep thinking. Five for three. Yeah, I've got it.

SPEAKER_05

Three, two. Whose side are you on? Yeah, whose side are you on? Three, two, one, Margaret. Margaret. Yeah! But not by that much. Like, well, I mean it's it's George's problem, frankly. It's George's problem. What's going on with your hair?

SPEAKER_04

I know, it's all over the place, innit?

SPEAKER_05

It's a little bit wild, but it's it's funny.

SPEAKER_04

I've I barely got it.

SPEAKER_05

Like two episodes, your hair was great, and now fucking look at it.

SPEAKER_00

I know, it's it's a it's a mess, isn't it? I quite like it. I quite like it. If I like Michael McIntyre. That's not a good thing.

SPEAKER_03

So I think that puppy. Uh oh, that's upsetting.

SPEAKER_05

So I think that ultimately, Georgia has said, I'd love for us to pay half of it, and the mum has been like, I'll pay half.

SPEAKER_07

And then for some reason they've not come to that conclusion together, and it's taken Bright Team to the Guardian.

SPEAKER_00

Can I just take 10 seconds just to sort this out?

SPEAKER_07

It's fucking Hang on, stop doing the whole head then.

SPEAKER_05

Do like a bit of it. There we go. That'll do. That's fine. That'll do. Okay, carry on. Start again, mate. I don't want to, so you have to keep that bit in.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_05

They have both agreed to pay half, begrudgingly or otherwise. They both said, fine, I'll pay half. I think it's a shared responsibility. Yeah, so yeah, uh ultimately the easy fix is King Herodit. Yes, exactly. Maybe in half. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00

But for whatever reason, that's not what we're discussing here. We're discussing who is in the right half. I think Margaret is in the right because, as you say, there there are signs saying pay this thing, make sure you pay this thing. If I'm it's like if someone gives you a lift, you have to pay petrol money.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, or like get them a pint wherever you're going or whatever, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

You buy the thing to make up for it. Yeah, mum's given you a lift, then why would mum also pay for this drop-off fee?

SPEAKER_05

I guess the main thing is she's saying that she didn't know, but Bill knows. But then also, I'm sorry, you're an adult. You you should look into stuff a bit. It seems like the mum was saying she's scatterbrained and shit. And so George's like, no. But this is clearly a continuation of her. I imagine she was a fucking nightmare during exam periods where she was then like, Oh, I've not got a pencil, oh my god, I've got DT tomorrow, and we need to and we're doing cooking.

SPEAKER_07

I need uh all the ingredients for Hunter's chicken. And mum's like, what the fuck? It's 7am.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, that's the vibe I get as well, which gives me um anxiety. So we're both on the mum's side. Yeah. Should we see what the jury of Guardian Readers says? Oh, there's also a jury. Okay, go on. Yeah, yeah. Uh let we can do one each.

SPEAKER_04

So Henry29 says, There's nothing more annoying than someone offering to do you a favour, they're making a pig's ear of it, creating more asshole than you had to begin with. Margaret and Bill made a mistake, and it's unfair to pin that on Georgia.

SPEAKER_05

I don't agree with you there, Henry. I don't think it's unfair to pin it on Georgia. What does Tiny 37 think? Oh, oh, we're not discussing them, we're just reading them. Oh, because I mean there's five more of these, so I mean, okay, alright. Long form content, and it's a bloody podcast. Very long. Yeah. Um, I think that I don't agree with Henry there. I I think I don't agree with anybody pinning it on either side. I think that that that would be my main takeaway from all of this. Um Georgia should accept her mum's offer to split the fine. Agreed. They did her a favour, and there was a misunderstanding over the drop-off. Agreed. It was Georgia's holiday and car. A fine isn't worth a fight. Agreed. Agreed. At 32, she should stop the pettiness, pay half for all of it, and move on. Tanya! Agreed. Hell on the fucking head, Tanya. Brilliant, succinct, great job. Fucking Tam Tam 37. Yeah, but but we uh said that we wouldn't go down the middle though, but Tanya's very much obviously like obviously just Harvey, which is the fix. Obviously, dependent on price of no. To be fair, the more it is, the more dependent on price it is. That's as well. Yeah, yeah. If it's like five, if it's something obscene, like 500 quid, then you start to think, oh my god, that money will affect my life. Actually, this is fucked, because that's part of my rent, and that's really annoying.

SPEAKER_07

I'd love to hear what Ian 81 says, because I love hearing a boomer's opinion.

SPEAKER_02

Margaret's doing all the favours here, and any thanks Georgia offers her are grudging. Margaret's offer to pay half of the fine seems generous in the circumstances. Perhaps Georgia should take her taxi to the airport next time.

SPEAKER_05

I don't disagree with Ian, but I think he's uh siding with the older person because they're an older person. That's the vibe I get. I mean, I was also team boomer. I was fully on Margaret's side here. I think I think Georgia's side.

SPEAKER_00

You're fully on Yeah, I I think Georgia just needs to get over it and just go, whatever, here it is personally. I'm me and Ian are fucking high-fiving.

SPEAKER_01

Paul Lina with Paulina's for some reason. That might be a good thing.

SPEAKER_05

It's the driver's responsibility to keep an eye out for charges, and the mistake was Bill's. Yes. In the absolute moment, it was Bill's mistake, but sorry, let me finish. Let me finish. Big however here. Yeah, however, Georgia should pay the full fine, because Bill and her mum took time out of their day to take her to the airport. I don't I think you can't have it both sides there. You say it's Bill's fault, but Georgia should pay. It's like, no, it's both of their faults, and I think that both of them should pay. I feel like that doesn't make sense, Paulina. Paulina's answer is the weirdest one. Should we strict that from the record? Should we make it strict? It's also Paulina. P-A-U-L-I-I-N-A. That must be a typo. The Guardian is known for its typos. You ever heard of Grawny ad? Oh really? Yeah, it's it's historically known for typos. So maybe they slipped one in. Maybe. Okay, what does Kate sixty-three say?

SPEAKER_00

They've all messed up, but the book stops with Georgia as it's her car driven on her behalf. The drop-off fee is common knowledge, and Georgia should have researched it beforehand. She's lucky Margaret is offering to go halves.

SPEAKER_03

How about that one?

unknown

I agree.

SPEAKER_00

I agree with Kate, meaning Kate having a right, old menage at the corner.

SPEAKER_03

And I'm gonna scroll down. Can we see?

SPEAKER_05

Okay, so then we've then got on the next article, they then have last week's results. So then it shows the results of this one that we've just read. Okay. Uh last week's results. We asked if Georgia should pay the fine after her mum gave a lift to the airport, but didn't pay the drop-off charge. Come on, Margaret. So this is, by the way, a 75-25 split. This is very on one side. And then this one doesn't offer like a half and half thing. This one is who's in the right? Margaret or Georgia. It says Georgia is guilty or Georgia is innocent. Those are the two. 75% of people guilty.

SPEAKER_04

Guilty.

SPEAKER_05

Guilty!

SPEAKER_04

Yes! I think that's fair. I think that's fair. Sit down, shut up. Your call. Sit down, shut up.

SPEAKER_05

It's your holiday. It's your responsibility ultimately. I think it is nice of the mum to offer. I don't say that I would I wouldn't expect her to offer, but I'd be miffed if they weren't offered a bit to be like, we'll go half on it.

SPEAKER_00

But like Yeah, but ultimately if I'd given someone a lift to the airport and then they go, Oh, by the way, can I have a hundred quid? But like excuse me? Think of it like that. Think of it like that.

SPEAKER_05

But they're not asking for the 100 quid. It is quite different.

SPEAKER_00

They're saying it's if it's 200 quid, fine.

SPEAKER_05

No, no, no, no, but then they're not getting I guess they are in a roundabout way getting the 100 quid because they're not having to spend the 100 quid. But it's not that they're just saying, Can I have 100 quid? It's like, oh, there's also a reason behind it. I don't know. I still think George, I think George is still guilty. I'd still assign her the guilt in this situation for sure. Well, there you go. Let us know in the comments uh in in in what you think.

SPEAKER_00

Uh before we before they head off, before we head off, I've got one more question I want to ask you, Stampy. Here we go. It's a little intriguing question. Um because I saw a shiny 20p on the floor, right?

SPEAKER_05

Okay. In the grass. But it was a real nice shot. And I I picked it up.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_05

And then I had a 20 more P. All the day, did you have good luck?

SPEAKER_00

I'm doing this right now, so no. Um, my question to you is what is the minimum amount of money you would pick up from the floor?

SPEAKER_05

Just like in a pot or something. And does it yeah, and does it depend how nice a version of it is? Because this 20p it was fucking new, man. It was like glistening in the sun. I'd say yes. On that second question, if it's a cool design of a thing, because I've done some like cool coins of like Peter Rabbit or like a ship or something. If I see a 50p with a ship on it, I'm like, I'm getting that. That's and also the money helps out with it, it's 50p. Um, but I would say yeah, it definitely does depend on the artwork and whatever. So I agree on that, and if it's like nice and shiny. Um, the minimum amount, if I'm just walking around, I'm trying to picture it. Because not if I'm if I'm going somewhere, I'm very of the opinion I'm going somewhere, so I want to get there now. I'm I'm on my way. I'm I'm rarely gonna sort of meander unless the whole point of my walking is to meander and do what I can do. You go for a walk with the dog, but not of myself. I go for runs, but like that's different because the aim is to then run. The aim is not to look around and see stuff. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

The minimum amount that I'd stop for like a I'm thinking half the time.

SPEAKER_05

No, 5p is well out of the question. You'd ignore it, you just ignore a 5p. At like a 10p is where I'm thinking, do I stop for a 10p? I I think sometimes if I'm not in much of a rush, but usually I'd say no. 20p yes. That's a lot. I think 20p is clear. 10p depends how shiny, right? Yeah, 10p is yeah, if it's a fair weather 10p. I'll add another layer to it then. How much for you to cross the road to pick it up? Oh, obviously, we're talking notes. Yeah, that's what I mean. Obviously, we're talking notes then. But I mean it's a pound. I'd got a pound.

SPEAKER_00

You'd you'd cross the road for a quid.

SPEAKER_07

If I I I don't think I could see a quid across the road, if I'm being honest.

SPEAKER_00

Um again, it's shining, it catches your eye.

unknown

Is that a quid?

SPEAKER_00

That's what you'd have to ask. You'd have to say, is that a quid?

SPEAKER_05

Okay, is that a quid or is that just like the top of a party popper? Then you go over, they go, oh, it's a fucking party popper. That's annoying. It's a party popper. Oh, it's a mine, now I'm dead. Oh, um I think a quid, but I don't bat myself to spot it. Two quid for sure. This is like my 10p, 20p one. Yep, yep, yep.

SPEAKER_03

Two quid for sure.

SPEAKER_05

I think a pound, anything less, and I'm like, that's someone walking the other way's problem. They they can get that money, that's cool. Yeah, keep an eye on it. Check back later if it's gone. Maybe then I'd be like, oh, when I do my loot back, I'll then walk on that side of the road to see if it still exists.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

I'd change my walking pattern.

SPEAKER_05

It doesn't matter if there's loads of glass on there. Come on, you know, dodge it, you'll be fine. I've got daddy's got to get his pounds. Yeah, I'd say I'd say 50p would be like, if it's really shiny, that's when I've seen it. Otherwise, a pound. Would you say about the same?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I I I the the the shiness definitely matters. And it's funny as well, like if I find a pound coin that's shineless, I'm a lot less excited than if it's a nice shiny one. That's fair.

SPEAKER_05

You know, we we still get sort of triggered by those childish things, you know, even though we're we're grown adults, grown eight adults. Do you remember where that's where I got the party popper thing from? Where he's like a uh uh is it is it was in the same stand-up comedy thing. If you're from the UK, you know it, the garlic bread, cheesecake, garlic bread.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, it's from that classic set.

SPEAKER_05

It's from that set, okay. It was another one, and it was about like uh an old person, an old drunk person dancing at a wedding, and it's like uh you know when like your uncle's had too much, when like he's trying to pick up the tops of party poppers because he thinks they're pound coins on the dance floor, and he's like got one leg planted and he's like pivoting around drunkenly trying to pick up like pound coins and and picking up and going oh and then like goes on to the next one, and for some reason that's just stuck in my head. That whole set I think changed UK comedy because like it's referenced to this day. Is that the one like Garlic Bread certainly is? Is that the one where he talks about the wedding DJ? And it's like um, where have we gone up to?

SPEAKER_02

Going up to the spirit in the sky. Yes, I think you're gonna go.

SPEAKER_05

It might be part of the same thing with the wonderful and the party poppers, yeah. That's what I was wondering. That is an absolute classic of the genre.

SPEAKER_00

Fair play Peter K. We're bringing him back, man, because our podcast will grow big enough to bring back Peter K.

SPEAKER_05

Next week, retirement. We'll try and get Eve knows I'm retired. Well done. Yeah, good for him. We've done it already. If you guys want Peter K on this podcast, give it a like, give it a subscribe, give it a comment on any of your platforms, if you're on Spotify, if you're on Apple Podcasts, whatever it is, um, please make sure that you do so. It helps us out immensely. It does. I'm also gonna make a request because we have got one podcast episode, one full episode that's got less than a hundred views. That's got less than a hundred views. Officially, unofficially number eight. I'm gonna link it over fucking like here.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, link it there. Um, and that has got 92 views. So even if you've seen it, watch it back, reminisce. And if you haven't, it's funny. It's a really good one.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Alright. Give that a watch. Cosmic's leg there because now the episode has to end, so we can have that end card.

SPEAKER_05

The new ones like there or whatever, or the sub button, the usual shit. But go on from Brady. Jump us to 100. Thank you very much. I really need a Wii, so I'm gonna go. Goodbye.