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We banished JORHDYS' pet peeves 😤 Officially Unofficially #30

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SPEAKER_01

Hello, dear friends. Goodness gracious. Look at us go. We're in person right now. Again. Again. It's not just us here. We're with the wonderful Geordies. Hello. Hello, mate.

SPEAKER_02

Hello. Hello.

SPEAKER_01

We're gonna be figuring out all of your gripes, all of your biggest issues in another room 101. It was successful the first time around. It was so much fun. Johnny absolutely loved it. We had people in the comments sort of saying what their ones were. Do you know what room 101 is? Because Johnny sort of did, but sort of didn't.

SPEAKER_02

Well, no, until you told me what it was. Okay. And what did I say, theoretically? It's just based well, I actually Googled it as well when like five minutes before, but it's like about people things that people hate.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, like small, like, like niggly things that you're just like, I've really it just gets on your nerves. It's like the tiny little problems. One of Johnny's was uh when he steps on a piece of his floor near his bathroom and then the door opens, uh and then it No then the door closes. But then when you step on the floorboard, because I had to watch it back to understand, but I was nodding a lot. When you step on the floorboard, it then moves the doorstop out of the way, and then the door closes. That was one of Johnny's. Which I love. So specific. Wonderful.

SPEAKER_02

That sounds just like a Johnny problem, not really. I knew we voted it in.

SPEAKER_01

Bigly time. So we we also have a voting system as well. So when each of us say ours, we we pitch it to the council, and then it's up to the other two. Oh, did we say both people? No, it's only one person has to agree to put it in, right? We went with? Yeah, so so long as you convince somebody to put it in.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I do have a list.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you have to try and target it. We should also, before we get into the list, we should address the elephant in the room. Hello, everyone. What's the elephant? Who's the elephant? Is it our? Is it me? Or address the telephone.

SPEAKER_02

He did. I think that's a good one.

SPEAKER_01

That's actually so misogynist. Sorry, guys. And I do agree with you. Yeah, misogyny. Uh we're in person right now. We currently find ourselves in France. France Hey? In France. We actually can't say what we're doing because the thing that we are recording here is not being released for like a couple of weeks. We should say one word each that we get that they won't. Ooh, that's fun. Oh, well, and then eventually then they will get it. Yeah, yeah. I'm gonna go with tired. Mmm. No, yeah, yeah, that's good. Um, okay, I will say um guide. That's annoying. That's really annoying. How do we turn that back on? For any audio listeners, go fuck yourselves. And secondly, there we go. We've started out some movement with Easter egg. I'm not cutting that. I'm not cutting anything on this episode, by the way, because I'm at my laptop. So what was your word? Uh I think it was guide. Yes, very good. Guide. Mine is guide.

SPEAKER_02

Um I'm gonna go with wet.

SPEAKER_01

Very good. So you guys, you will all understand this uh pretty shortly. So we're currently in a hotel, not lobby. We're on, we were told it's such a Again, audio listeners, I beg you, go on Spotify video and have a look at where we are. Or fuck yourselves. Or go fuck yourselves. Yeah. Joe, we're currently in, what is it, with the sixth floor by the spa, which is just a fitness room, which is next to me, which has got like a treadmill in it.

SPEAKER_02

We're in the corner of a hotel. There's elevators to our right.

SPEAKER_01

You will hear the elevators go at various points. I bet I bet these lights go off every like 10 minutes or something as well. We need to be a little bit active. Yeah, we got some motion sensing lights in here. Yeah. We've got um a couple of cameras resting on that's on a big block of wood on a table. Yeah. Uh Joe's camera is on a lamp table. I'll get a picture behind the scenes to put on. Yeah, nice. If I put it on, it'll be on Twitter or something. Remind me. Okay. Um it's good though, it's good vibes.

SPEAKER_02

You know what? The set works, and that's all we need.

SPEAKER_01

We went out for dinner tonight, which was nice. Yeah. Burgers. They were good, they were cheesy. They were very good. Cheesy burger. They were cheesy, cheese. Cheesy burgers, had a pint. Delicious. Sorry, I know you're on a room 101. No, no, no. I'm just thinking about you know what else I had. He just wants to talk about his day. I know he's a chatter, isn't he? I'm a chatter. I couldn't. I think I could do a little like chat show.

SPEAKER_02

Are you the type of person who could do a chat show? Tells people about your day before they ask you how you did their day.

SPEAKER_01

No, but Cole always says I put way too much D Teddy into it. Oh, no, no, no. The story is so boring. Bro, that's so harsh. They're so boring. Because the thing is, so he'll be like, if you got mugged, you go, oh my god, I got mugged yesterday. You wouldn't say, so yesterday I woke up and I looked at my shoes and I thought normally I'd wear the white shoes, but it's a black shoe kind of day. You I viewers know.

SPEAKER_02

Something's off. The leases didn't tie up where it's go.

SPEAKER_01

It was an omen. And then I got mugged. Like, I'm saying what? What? You got mugged. Cole has basically got ADHD. He cannot listen to a story. When we're doing free play at the start of streams, we'll play for like an hour free play and just chat and do whatever. Cole actively gets annoyed when I don't instantly give this iPad baby all the details off the rip. He needs to know it instantly. You've got no idea. That's not fair. Where do you fall on that?

SPEAKER_02

I mean, I don't know. I I do chat a bit, like I explain a little bit, but my problem, and Jack will agree with this, he tells me all the time that I forget the things that I tell him, and so I will repeat the same story once every one to two weeks without realizing that. Does he tell you this on mid-story? Yeah, he'll I'll tell you. I could bring up the same story that happened four years ago, and you'd be like, Joe, you've told me this already. And I'm like, oh my god, sorry. I thought I t I thought I didn't. Yeah. Um or I I reminded him of something and then I reminded him again three hours later, and he's like, Yeah, you told me.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I'm doing that.

SPEAKER_02

I got that from my mum. My mum's bad with that, like constantly repeating the same stories.

SPEAKER_01

I think it's quite sweet. Like I do the same thing, I've got a terrible memory. I do the same with Linnea, where I'll tell her a story, and bless her, she waits till the end, and then she goes, Oh, that's fine. But I do know that one. She waits till the end. Yeah, she does. She's adorable, we know. She's nothing if not adorable. She's outrageous. Um, but I think it's nice that it means that you know I've got this story that I want to share with her. Yeah, you know. And yet when I tell you, and yet when I tell a story that lasts for like 20 minutes is a good story length. That's like a nice like length of time for but also, well, there's questions, there's things going on. In a conversational story. Stumpy wants a stumpy show, that's the thing.

SPEAKER_02

If you're narrating, you're like, straight, then it's not conversation, you're just storytelling.

SPEAKER_01

I agree. I look forward to having this one out at some point. Well, maybe that can be in your room 101. Exactly. Well, no, I can't both be able to do it. But me telling stories in your room 10. You're gonna have to get up.

SPEAKER_02

Every time the lights go off, I'm running around the circle every time.

SPEAKER_01

I'm gonna hit it at some point. A nice little loop. The lights will go off. What's that? Every like five minutes. So, Joe, I hear from you that you have got 15 of these that you could rattle off. 15 things that that bug you more than they should.

SPEAKER_02

They do, actually.

SPEAKER_01

Have you got them in an order? Is there one that you have in mind that you want to start off with?

SPEAKER_02

Uh well here's my list, obviously being like I love that.

SPEAKER_01

I love that we're told credit.

SPEAKER_02

I was I was still going.

SPEAKER_01

We told you about this about what, half an hour ago. And you've come up with more than I have in about eight weeks of knowing this kind of schedule. Okay. Notes are like, ugh.

SPEAKER_02

I think a few of them are about people, and then a few of them are about like just general things. Okay. Because when I looked it up, a lot of people suggested general things as well. Okay, so it's not just everything I hate about a person.

SPEAKER_01

They're all Jack things. If Jack's listening to this, go away.

SPEAKER_02

No, Jack knows the things that get on my nose. Like, I tell him all the time, he's like, you need to give it a rest. And I'm like, listen, if it annoys me.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, well, kick us off and let us know. What would you like to present to the council? Yeah, what would you like to present to the well room 101 council? We've got hands-on levers ready to pull the lever to drop it into room 101.

SPEAKER_02

So there's the one that I've been hating a lot recently, and it's when people drank their feet when they walk.

SPEAKER_01

Walking shuffles. Yes. Okay, go on, why?

SPEAKER_02

Because why are you that lazy to not walk normally? That you feel the need to shuffle. It's the noise. I'm very, I'm a very noised person. I hate repetitive noises. And there's another one on here which will make sense as well. Um so like if there's a tapping noise or if there's birds chirping outside after a while, I'm like, that is get on my nose. Like, shut up.

SPEAKER_01

Are you also bad with like um oh randomness going off? Um the uh how you like people like the noise of them eating. Because I can't just the noise of eating. It really fucks with me.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that's that's the biggest thing I've hated for the longest time. I'll go back to the feet thing in a second. But yeah, eating loudly is I think it's so violent. I think it's disgusting.

SPEAKER_01

It matters on the food that you're eating, but it's spaghetti. That's tough. Yeah, spaghetti's tough. No, no, no, no. No, you can eat spaghetti. You can eat spaghetti. Oh, I'm saying no, but I'm saying I'm not saying you should. I'm saying with crisps, the only way to not have them make noise is to go.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, so there's gonna be foods that you have to make noise with. But keeping your mouth closed and crunching is fine. Okay, I see.

SPEAKER_01

That's part and parcel of a crisp. Yeah. It's not a good noise. Or we'll have like a burger, like a wet burger, and then they go.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and they're like smacking.

SPEAKER_01

Like revolting lip smacking. Okay, what what about because this is this is a people's fault, uh, jaw clickers. Hate it, I hate jaw clickers. My grandma bless her. She, you know. Vile bitch.

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Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01

Absolutely vile bitch. I cannot. Because also, but also I know in my head, I'm like, I'm the bad guy. And it's it's okay to know that. Very occasionally. I know it does. Yeah. Do you? Yeah. You've noticed how often we did it a lot last year. Last year is in more than usual or last year. Last year more than usual, I noticed it. But I might have just been more on age, I don't know. It's okay. That's the thing that I like to think I'd be aware of.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, they're gone up, they're turned off.

SPEAKER_01

Quick lap.

SPEAKER_02

They're gone off like every minute or something. That's terrible. That irked me. Why would you do that? I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

We're just we're just testing things. We're just testing the waters. You did call my grandma a bitch, you know. I mean, a vile bitch no, the podcast did. Officially, unofficially did. Oh, by the way, uh uh, welcome to officially the best podcast on the internet, episode 30. Roll them credits. Tell them to sub.

SPEAKER_02

Subscribe.

SPEAKER_01

Beautiful. Did you like our jingle?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I did. I like how you kind of bounced off each other though.

SPEAKER_01

That's nice, though. There's also an audio jingle that we'll be playing in the episode. It's like a nice little like song. I like that. It's good. Okay, so it's let's let's go let's go back to shoe shufflers. Is it like people who always do it, or if they only do it sometimes, are they like going, oh or is it just general shoe shufflers?

SPEAKER_02

I wouldn't know because I don't tend to follow people around. It's just usually like in the areas that I live in, if someone's walking, whether they have slippers on or they have like obviously there's shoes that you can't help that make noise, like flip-flops and stuff. I was like flip-flops. Yeah. But if you're walking and you're dragging your feet to the point where it's making noise, you're just echoing this weird ranted noise everywhere. I was like, if that's how you walk, like it I feel like it reflects how you are as a person.

SPEAKER_01

Would you tell your childhood friends?

SPEAKER_02

How do you laugh at that?

SPEAKER_01

It reflects how you are as a person if you drag your feet. I suppose I did call Cole's grandma a vile bitch because she clicks her jaw, which is also not her fault. So maybe I do agree with you in hindsight.

SPEAKER_02

If you walk into a room and you be confident, then you're more inclined to actually be confident. As opposed to if you walk him your head down and you're trying to shuffle in.

SPEAKER_01

And your mood's also affected by how you move around. Like if you're moving around happily and you're balancing and chatting, then you then eventually you'll basically fake yourself into then being happier of a day. Well, what I will say is that shoe shuffling, I don't think I'm a shoe shuffling. I think um I think I do sometimes. I catch myself doing it.

SPEAKER_02

It's like a it's like an ambulance. Like if you just wake up in the morning.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I do it in my own zone, especially with slippers on, but especially at the end of the day. And I sort of I do like I think okay, I think you're gonna go. Oh god. I sometimes do like a little rhythm in my head, like I'm going b da bda bda bda.

SPEAKER_02

That's fine though, that's fine. Oh, that's fine.

SPEAKER_01

I'll think you said that's worse. Well, when you're walking. Yeah. Just not all the time. Because I'm quite a fast walker, you know that. Can you give us an example? It's gonna be tough to be seen, but you guys will have to do it. So okay, end of the end of a long day, right? I'll be like, I'll be sort of. It's like Oh, he's like doing like a toe heel, toe heel.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's very whimsy, you know?

SPEAKER_01

What are you talking then about?

SPEAKER_02

I'm just like, what? You want me to damage it? I just sort of hate that.

SPEAKER_01

I hate I hate that too. I thought we'd have it.

SPEAKER_02

I shouldn't, but it's like walk and they're like this.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, full on lazy. Lazy.

SPEAKER_02

The heels just don't lift up, and it's like I hate that. And I just think it's such like an improper way of walking.

SPEAKER_01

I'll agree with you. That I dislike more because that seems indifferent. Mine is objectively annoyingly quirky. Whereas at least you've got your one is just. You're like Mr. Popper's fucking penguins over it. He's singing a song in my head.

SPEAKER_02

I do just want to clarify as well. There's gonna be people that can't help it physically.

SPEAKER_01

Sure, if you've got a limp, can it stop holding it? All the limp heads in chat every every single officially unofficially episode, we say, yes, some people are disabled, not you guys. Everyone else who goes. Um I would say I'm ready to decide on my lever pull. Really? Yeah. I'm ready to go on the lever pull. Based on the walk that Joe did there, the really lazy, oh, who cares? Yeah. That's an attitude that I'm not a fan of. So I'm gonna say. Bosch. Oh, you're deboshing. I'm not pulling the lever. Why not? I don't think I care. Fair. I don't I don't think I care at all if somebody does. I think I don't like disgusting noises. And I don't like those sort of like wet, annoying noises. I guess I just don't find that annoying. For whatever reason, oh, Carl's finding new ways to turn the lights back on. He just rolled out of frame. Um I just I don't think I find that a disgusting noise.

SPEAKER_02

So you you don't mind repetitive noises then?

SPEAKER_01

I don't think so. Because also, oh, you would have hated it in our um Uber uh yesterday. Uh the back door, like, it was a Tesla and it's got like a it's got the electric door locks. Yeah, yeah. Instead of like a physical, you don't pull a handle or whatever, you press a button, it undoes it. The button uh on the door, maybe it was this morning, um, wasn't like locking the door properly. Okay. And so it kept going ch gung, chung, rattling for 25 minutes. Oh, yeah. Was it fixable but no one bothered? No, I know I'm pretty sure the door was fucked, because it was an old Tesla. Okay. And it was the it was the electrolock was trying to like lock in and do its thing. But it was each going ch gung, chung, chung.

SPEAKER_02

I just hate repetitive things. Even not even audio though, as well, even physical like visual things too. On the flight here yesterday, thanks for kaleidoscope. It was a blessing, it was a girl and she was in front of me, and I could see her through the the airline seats, and God knows what she was doing, but she was doing some like erotic hand movement on a plane. Erratic, sorry.

SPEAKER_01

What sort of plane did you go on? Oh my gosh. We're not in the Netherlands right now.

SPEAKER_02

It was like a family going to Disneyland, it was erratic movements of like I don't like she was doing like syndrome or like disabled. I I don't think I don't think she was. I mean, she she was pretty normal getting on the plane, and then she was pretty normal for like 30 minutes, and then all of a sudden for the next 15 minutes, she was on her phone filming, and she's like, Oh, she was doing like a TikTok dance. But yeah, it was like so weird to watch, and because she kept doing the same thing over and over and over, I was like, oh my god, cover it, cover it. I can't get that in my eyes anymore.

SPEAKER_01

I think I'd find that weird, but I don't think that would piss me off. I'm easily pissed off.

SPEAKER_02

Easily pissed off. I just see her going like a little bit of a phone.

SPEAKER_01

I guess if you're trying to concentrate, yeah. When we were in um Denmark the first time, and there and I we went to see the little mermaid, you know, the little statue, the original one, and it's like a little island, it's about I don't know, a four foot, maybe three foot jump away, and everyone's like respectfully sat around taking pictures like that. And this one TikTok zoomer, yeah, she hopped onto the island and got her family to like so all the you know, 30 people gather around taking pictures of it, yeah. And then she hops on there for her family to like take a photo. And I was thinking, I've never prayed harder for someone to fall in, not break her neck, but like have to have one of those cones for six months. Like a dog? Yes. So she doesn't like tear her stitches out there. She's like a TikTok fucking dog. God, that's horrible. Make sure you do follow on TikTok by the way, everybody. Yeah, we do have a ticket we are TikTok dogs. We are TikTok dogs. Yeah. And yeah, I'm not putting my lever on that, unfortunately. And I'm sure that I will have some that you won't. But for me, it's not enough. It happens every time. That's the beauty of a darling being what one person who does. But I pulled it.

SPEAKER_02

So it kind.

SPEAKER_01

There it goes. Shoe shufflers go. Uh, I have got one that reminds me of it, it was sort of similar to what you said like halfway through, where I did, I mocked you and then immediately agreed with you. Where um you were saying it's like the character, what you do, then I can judge part of your character based off that. Um my one that I would like to submit is people wearing dry robes in contexts where dry robes don't make sense. So if you you know the big like the coat things, the big long sofas wear. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like dry robe in pink on the front, it's got like camo or whatever. Do I know what a dry robe is? I thought you meant like either a dressing gown or a thobe. No, that this is the thing. So, anybody who knows what a dry robe is, it it's not it's not necessarily unpopular, unpopular. Here you go. So, this is a dry robe. Have you seen them? Oh, yeah, I've got one of those. Oh, okay, not what that's a waterproof one. Yeah, and it's like fluffy on the inside. It's like a dressing gown one that you wear in the house, like a zip-up dressing gown. Sure, that's fine. Yeah, yeah, whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we will go to the shop in a dry robe, and basically the purpose is you've gone like surfing, you've gone swimming, and you're all wet from the sea. Instead of you then uh toweling and then you've got a towel. You put the dry on the dry robe on, it fully dries you, protects you from the wind, whatever. Great purpose.

SPEAKER_02

But then you can get dressed, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, and it's like nice and baggy, yeah. So you can pull up like shorts or whatever. Great purpose for that, right? Fucking Lindsay down the local asda does not need to wear a fucking dry robe instead of a coat. You don't need to be wearing a dry robe. I don't know why you own a dry robe. Is she a student? No, she's a like a 43-year-old woman. Because that would be my first thought there, that students can get away. Students are somewhat immuted. Exactly. They they have to be there because I've been a student, I've been a hungover student, I've been I'm a getting up today student, or I will and get some cereal. I'm in my dressing gown on. Fucking whatever. I yeah. Okay. Cool, whatever. When I see I see people like pushing pushing like a pram around or whatever, wearing a dry robe, and they are shuffling, shuffling their feet, um, clicking their jaws, and they are like, they've clicked. The vile bitch. 42, that would suit your family. Um so then, like the fact that then she's just cutting about in a dry robe, I think it's and this makes me feel so classist and makes me feel so prejudiced. I think it's so fucking chabby and so tacky to like wear it, just doesn't make any sense. You don't need this like get a coat. Why is wearing a coat? Like, it makes so difficult sense because you possessed a coat.

SPEAKER_02

I feel like I'm on the fence on this though, because wearing a dry robe to a supermarket doesn't make sense to me.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

But I've seen people in Manchester walk their dog in windy and wet conditions while wearing a dry robe, which I think kind of makes more sense because if you're out walking a dog and it's really cold, why wouldn't you not put something on that's supposed to protect you from the wind and cold?

SPEAKER_01

It makes more sense for sure. That's a way better context for it, but I guess in my head I'm still thinking, wear a fucking coat. It's pretty abeless, mate. Just wear a coat. Okay, we're not talking to you who can't do a fucking zip-up or whatever. Wheelchair Wendy, you're immune. Exactly. A lot of people are immune here. Students are immune. And wheelchair Wendy. My vile picture of a nan is an immune. Oh, she's not. No, gotcha. So she can't get away with it. No, she's not. Of course she can't. I'm learning the lines. I don't think it bothers me that much because I sort of I've got to be. You've also not seen them though. Maybe not. Yeah, she's gonna be around. You might notice it now. I've seen people in like dressing gowns, I've seen people in. I hate that. A dressing gown in a shop. A pajama pajamas in a shop, holy fucking shit. Put some jeans on. Put some joggers on. Good for them. You go to Tesco.

SPEAKER_02

If you're nipping into the corner shop, fair enough. Yeah, that's it. If you're going to Asda or Morrison's, it's 15-minute drive away. If you're getting in the car, driving to the shop, and you're still needing to get out of the way.

SPEAKER_01

I think it's like a pathetic thing.

SPEAKER_02

I think there's I think there's like a line. Like, I don't know. I feel like you if you're going out, if you're taking the time to drive somewhere, going somewhere, you should get dressed. But if you're just snipping somewhere really quickly, go to the corner.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, going down the corner shop, like, oh shit, I just need some milk or whatever. Cool. I that's fine, cool, whatever. But then I've seen people again like go to like a retail park or something. I've seen people cut about in pajamas around a retail park. And I'm like, where the fuck are you in the range? Alright, well, you can't do it. In some like poo bed, like PJs. My line would be. These lines are going off way more regularly. I was saying, my line would be bed, pajamas, yes. You know? Yep. Corner shop, pajamas, yes. Tesco, pajamas, yes. Pub. Fri pub pub pajamas, yes. Do it. Why not? You're fucked in the head. Nah, nah, I wouldn't be in a pub. Pub. I'd respect it. If someone. At a pub in their pajamas, I'd be like, either good for you. I would think they are ill. That's the opposite of shuffling your shoes. And maybe they are, but that's the opposite of shuffling your shoes because that is someone who has pure confidence. That is someone who walks in the room. Someone that's not showered pharma terry. I think it's someone that is. And again, I'm probably wrong on these. I think it's someone that is lazy. Really? I think it's somebody that. Again, I find it tacky and I find it chavic. Do they need to impress me? No, obviously they don't. They've got they've got their little hat, the little pajama hat, and they go, Oh, I was up all night last night saving seals. Oh, it was a long one at the the the volunteer fire service. Three babies, I barely oh, I only had an hour's sleep. I really need this, you know, this drink or this fucking pot of Nesquik. Yeah. From the local Asda. Yeah. Please don't judge me, they'll say. And you're driving. You're getting in the car. I got an Uber. I got a limo. Got a limo to Asda. I think save it up. That's cool. That sounds like a one-bat song. Brother. You cannot think that's okay. It does like a one-bat song. Getting an Uber. Can I can I slightly like divert mine then to like maybe like wearing clothes in the wrong context, like lazy clothes in the wrong context, like like pajamas, dry robe. I'm I'm happy to vote.

SPEAKER_02

It goes full circle for me though, because I'll just make this last comment. It's like, you know how we were taught we literally spoke about it yesterday about how when you wake up, you could you want to get up and get dressed and start the day as up to date, even if you don't leave the house or whatever. And I feel like again, from what I said, is how you present yourself is how people would perceive you. And if you're walking about constantly like, oh pajamas are company and you just live all day in your pajamas and stuff, people perceive you in a way, oh you know, just doesn't really care about they don't care about themselves. And obviously, you shouldn't care about how other people think of you.

SPEAKER_01

I agree with that, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

But day and age, people are very judgmental, especially or just do it for yourself, right? Yeah, and you should do it for yourself too. I think it's important, even if you want to wear comfy clothes, like for example, I changed into comfy clothes to come on this. Um, I didn't put my pajamas on, but I mean comfy clothes.

SPEAKER_01

And I think ultimately it is a bit of a blurry line of like joggers, fine, pajamas, no. I don't know why that is. Yeah, because society has said so, right? Because it's different. And you know that I'm a big believer, and just because society says so doesn't mean it should be. Such as a different conversation I have one day, breakfast foods. Right? Who said that bacon is a breakfast food and steak isn't? If you want to have steak for breakfast, good for you. So just because society says that joggers are not okay, pajama bottoms, or joggers are okay, pajama bottoms aren't. Not for me, mate. Not for me. I'm a I'm a maverick. I think. I think I think you're setting yourself up to fail if you dress lazily when you're out and about. I guess that's my my takeaway. Oh, any lever pullers in chat? Bom. Not for me. No, no leverpullers in chat. I thought you would.

SPEAKER_02

It doesn't bother me, but I can understand, like, uh yeah, it doesn't bother me when I see them, but it just does put that thought in my mind of why do they do like why do they go out in their ja in their jammies? Do you know? It doesn't bother me to the degree where I hate it.

SPEAKER_01

So you'll have to continue to keep judging and they'll keep doing it, mate. Fine. I've thought that's how it would go anyway. Alas, alas. Oh. These fucking lights in room 101. Okay. My first room 101 for the episode will be songs that end with laughter. So you have a song, you have a rock song, it's a really good song. Yeah, this is great, this is great. You don't know, read my last one, right? Laughing at the end of songs, yes. So here this is sound of the summer, and then at the end, the ban, wombatts. I mentioned wombatts, they're absolutely. Let's dance to joy division. And at the end, you know, the irony, so happy. Fade out. Laughing off! I'm so with you. You've you've got sound engineers, chop, I could do that for you. I'm not a you proving to us that you had fun at the studio? I don't need to know that. I don't know. And it's it's like it's things like um skits in albums where you listen. I know you're not an album listener, but they go into your rotation, right? So you're Noah Karning, right? And every time you hear Noah Khan going like for eight seconds, hey Terry, is that the vibe we want? And that's for some reason included.

SPEAKER_02

I was gonna bring that up.

SPEAKER_01

In the album, why?

SPEAKER_02

Let me be a great song, and then at the start of the end, it'll be some conversation that makes no sense.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. It's mental to me. On Noah's new album, I'm a big Noah head. Um, he's got a song. That's why you're so poor now, isn't it? Very expensive gig ticket. Um uh at the start of one of his songs called Headed North, it's the song itself is fine. It's very chill, it's like it's like a campfire vibe and they're recorded when they're around a campfire. Cool idea. Oh shut up. Well, I love what I can't, but if you say it's chill, we know what you mean. I'm getting the bad guy. He right at the start, he's like playing the guitar, whatever, and it's like just him on the acoustic guitar. He messes it up and he goes, ah shit, and then plays it again. And I'm like, fucking cut that, Noah. Agreed. That's a free start. Let's let's let's click stop recording. Yeah. Let's go again. You don't even need to do that. You need to have a salvation. Fucking hate it. Now, that's what I would say is if it's like a live album, and you keep in a bit of the skittishness of the live, him chatting with the crowd, making an error, someone calls out, you're a wankanoa, lower your prices, sort of thing. Very expensive gig ticket. 110 quid for standing.

SPEAKER_02

That's mental.

SPEAKER_01

And I paid it like a fucking chunk. It's crazy, isn't it?

SPEAKER_02

I think I paid I think it was like 70 for standing.

SPEAKER_01

That's how it should be. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Noah's in the wrong for that, and I'm not one to normally criticize that beautiful man. I'm defending you if anyone's. That's nonsense. Um, but yeah, I don't know what they're they're trying to prove. And it sucks as well, so we're all streamers, right? There's songs that I've been really liking, and maybe, you know, if you guys listening at home, if you have songs that you want to put on a playlist for a party or a house party or whatever, right? You think, oh, this is great, I'm adding this straight in. Then it gets to the end, and there's my least favourite thing now: a hidden track. Three minutes of silence. And you never realise you're listening to silence till you go, wait a minute, or am I listening to music? Or silence. I hate all of this shit. Yeah, I'm it frustrates me a lot. I think as soon as the song ends, fucking move on. Yeah. Next track. Also, a song with a long outro. Like just annoying. How long is long? Hey, Jude, the longest outro. A classic song. If it's the same thing happening over and over and over and it's like slightly fading, I don't know. Fuck maybe just cut it. Just fade way quicker here, boys.

SPEAKER_02

Repetitive noises. I I cannot listen to a song. If someone redeems a song on my stream and it's got the same melody, da-da-da-da, da da da da da. I'm like, right, stop, get off. So you don't like what about like dance music?

SPEAKER_01

Like dance right at the start with boom, ching before like for a while.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, but if if there's someone singing on it and they've got a nice voice, it's fine. But if it's like rap or like a beat in the back of it. If it's the beat and it's just the guy going, I'm like, get the fuck out of my fucking ears. Oh my god, I can't stand it. It's so repetitive.

SPEAKER_01

The beats got to you. You know, you did that in in Iambic Pentameter. That was that was quite emphatic.

SPEAKER_02

I love a I love a song that's like, but it's just I like songs that have that nice up and down flower. When it's very repetitive, it's not melodic at all.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I like that's the point. I've I've been through a phase. I like rap music a lot, right? And I like a lot of rap with beats. There's a lot of rap music and songs that I like from artists that I would never share with someone because I'm like doing a spin. I can tell, you're you're getting you're getting worked up on this. I need to walk off the land go. You're getting louder with every waking second with the lights and the and the laughing at the songs. But I'm like, yeah, like I really like this artist. I I know this person's story, I listen to this very pure beat rapper, slow whatever, right? I went, I'd ever say, like, oh, check out this song by Lupe Fiasco, it's great. Because it's one for the lupe heads, right? And the the the the ones that you're referring to is for the lupe heads, which is sort of fine, but I do agree as well, and as I maybe get older, a lot of rap songs I hear, you know, if you go on like rap playlists on Spotify, a lot of them are that, and then trying to out-rap got each other, and I'm bored of that. So now I know you're good at rapping. That was the improved thing. That was the thing in casting for a while. Where so we cast um uh uh Car Soccer, uh Rocket League, available on the Epic Game store for free right now. Would you recommend it?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah, I would.

SPEAKER_01

Sick, what a review. Um we um we we commentate that. Do you remember like a few years ago, maybe like 2019 or something, 2020, there was like a really big uh like push for oh my god, this caster talks so fast. Yeah. And it was like a load of casters, like kind of like the bubble casters, and sort of like airing into getting like kind of bigger gigs. Including us at the time. Including us, everyone sort of fell into the trap of just talking quicker means better at job. Yeah. And everybody fell into that trap, and it became such like a an annoyance of mine at the time. But I was falling into it because everyone was doing it, then eventually everyone hasn't stopped doing that, so it's a lot nicer. Yeah, it's terrible and stupid for castle with a podcasting, it's really impressive because we can speak that quickly and clearly and still go on and on and on. It's really impressive. I really like how people can do that. That's very good. You doing you doing on and on and on on and on. Ruined it in the middle. It's a bit of a cheat code. That was a bit of a cheat code, it's a bit of a cheat code, a bit of an out while you could think. I'm not sure Harry Mack would never do on and on on. He run on with on with on with on. I was listening to uh a Foo Fighter song the other day, right? Um and I've got a song called Concrete and Golf, which I think is the name of one of their albums. Okay. And it's like, yeah, I I think so, or at least like the lead track for that album. It's newer. Oh god Christ, I don't know it then. I don't know a lot of fans, new songs, artists, new songs, right? Um basically at the end, you know, it's sad at Foo Fighters fair, it's quite experimental, you really sort of vibe with it, it's not like a stadium filler, and at the end, um he just goes, Fuck you, Daryl! And then it ends. Nonsense. I don't know who Daryl is. I don't care who Daryl is.

SPEAKER_02

Always no context.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Yeah, could not be asked. Not fun, not funny, no. Even if I love the band, there's songs that I like from up-and-coming bands, and I'm just like, why have you added that? Why have you added that's not cool for sure you're friends? I'm ready to vote. Yeah, so you're ready to vote.

SPEAKER_02

I think we should do it.

SPEAKER_01

Three, two, one, bang! Leave the pull. Stop laughing at the end of your songs.

SPEAKER_02

Not even laughing, just talking.

SPEAKER_01

There's a really good song by the front bottoms. Do you know the front bottoms?

SPEAKER_02

No.

SPEAKER_01

Great band, very good band. Cole for some reason, I don't know why. He doesn't mind it. The whole community destroyed. It's right. I'll I'll do my impression of a front button song. Okay, imagine a guitar that's instead of plucking the strings, it's sort of bashing it against the wall. And then a singer that instead of singing goes, I want my dog to die. And that's it. My dog died. Oh no, fine oh, where will you be tonight? And then the crowd will go, Where will you be tonight? Where will you be tonight?

unknown

Wow.

SPEAKER_01

It's pretty good.

SPEAKER_02

So was that close to the special thing?

SPEAKER_01

They've got a really bad song, if you can imagine. Uh, where uh at the end, uh he for some reason it like goes like really chill and like goes, you know, like nice and quiet. And the song is pretty energetic. And then at the end, he does like a minute and a half of like slam poetry. And I'm like, I've got no fucking clue why you think anybody cares. I don't know why you think that we're here to do some. Not I don't even I don't even know if it's good slam poetry. I don't know how to judge it, because it's just him talking about like somebody leaving him, and I'm like, and then it ends, and it's like To be fair, I must trauma dumped on me. I must have bit fool out, you know, Fallout Boy? Uh they've got a song where at the end they go like, from day one I thought about everybody walking out, and I cry. It's a bit of a guilty pleasure, it's about 30 seconds, and there's like a guitar thing that goes at the end, and I'm like, oh my god, if I was a 12-year-old girl, I'd be going crazy for this. Absolutely crazy. Yeah, talking into songs or laughing, get out.

SPEAKER_02

Don't have a song that I don't mind that is talking is one of Olivia Rodrigo's songs.

SPEAKER_01

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Uh I think it's all American it's like American Idiot or something.

SPEAKER_01

We're gonna nod. Oh, the one where it goes. Don't want to be an American idiot. Olivia Rodrigo, I'm singing a song. Yeah. That's really good.

SPEAKER_02

It's where she's basically talking, it's like No?

SPEAKER_01

No, sorry.

SPEAKER_02

You should listen to it. It but she talks in it.

SPEAKER_01

We'll play it in full now. Yeah, that was good actually. I did like that.

SPEAKER_02

She basically her verses are spoken.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

But I think that fits it though, because it's the style of the song as opposed to she's just waffling at the start.

SPEAKER_01

I think a song can earn it to an extent as well. If you really lean into it, I think artistically anything can go. You can make it work. It's when the band's just like whack it on the end, and it's like, I don't know why you think that. The only one, and we we should move on to uh your next one in a second, but the only one just comes to my mind, the only one of these that I actually quite like, and it's also got that sort of failure at the start that you mentioned, or one of you mentioned, um, is you know Time of Your Life by Green Day? That starts with bing b-ding-bing fuck it, beom b-ding, be-b, and that actually fits it because it's like the vibe of this frustrated guy sort of playing his guitar badly. Do you mean that's similar to what you were saying, sort of? You're beautiful by James Blunt. Where he goes, uh love his brilliant. And he does nothing. And he goes, My love is brilliant. It's the start of a double. He starts with the double because he fucking. I don't even realise that. Yeah? But if he just cut that, I don't understand. That's what I mean. He could he could have, but I think because that song is so iconic. Yeah, fair. And he's almost this like frustrated ex-lover or whatever the jilted person, it kind of works. But what about in Let's Start to Joy Division where they fucking laugh at the end of the day? Yeah, fucking laugh at the end like a fucking prick. Fucking bitcase. Like a bunch of vile bitches. Is your mum a wombat? No, even your mum, is your grandma a wombat? Come. I was gonna say to you specifically, please don't drop a C Ball in this one because I'm I'm doing the auto editor. I I'm gonna be at my laptop in an airport, so this is a run through. I'm not gonna be able to bleed the C's, which is a horrible manual job, by the way. There's no C Ball. Ooh, that makes it. I've just done it, it's done. That's my only one in OU so far as well. Yeah. Okay, Joe. Next room 101.

SPEAKER_02

Alright, this one, I think. Uh I don't know how to word it, so I'll try and explain it as well.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

Um, maybe I'll do it first go. But my one of my other big problems is I cannot stand when lobster dishes are served with the entire carcass of the lobster as a display on the plate.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

Or any animal of sort.

SPEAKER_01

So crab, I was gonna say to that extent of crab legs, prawns with their heads on and shells. Yeah. So this is when you're at the Ritz. Jenkins who's taking the limo out to take you to a smart restaurant. No one is wearing uh what was the dry robes. A dry robe, no one's shuffling their shoes. This is your people, Joe. The the the place inside to you've elevated to lobby. They say, caveat, my lady. Oh, the lobster, perfect. And they serve you a shelled lobster.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, so this is uh that actually happened. So when me and Jack were in where was it?

SPEAKER_01

The fucking Rits by the sounds, I think.

unknown

I think Hollywood.

SPEAKER_01

Then we were in debt and we barely go to the Rits in the UK.

SPEAKER_02

We were in Toronto before Boston, and it was Valentine's Day. We went out for Valentine's Day. Dinner, we found a last-minute reservation. We went there. I was like, ooh, lobster linguini. And I was like, I want to try something new. When I ordered it, I said to the waiter, Does this come out with the meat chopped? No lobster on show. Like no. Like all the shell nonsense, yeah. I don't want to see any shell. Yeah, yeah. Not nothing. He says, No, no, no, won't come out. Side topic, worst dinner experience of our entire lives. Tell us after.

SPEAKER_01

I do want to hear this.

SPEAKER_02

Um, but yeah, when it eventually came out, the the lobster was just on the plate staring at me.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, eyes and all. What next, yeah. Some pasta. And it was like chop it up and mix it with pasta.

SPEAKER_02

With its meat just mixed in. I don't mind.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, so they so they so they demeted the lobster.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I think it was only half of it, but his head was there, his claws, like, you know, or his body. I don't know what to do.

SPEAKER_01

Were you expected to like break and get more meat out of the bottom?

SPEAKER_02

No, it was just literally to be on the vibe. I just had to knock him off. Fuck off. But my problem is that I can't stand that. I think that's so it makes me sad. Because I don't mind eating chicken. I don't like I obviously got animals, right? But I think there's a there's a limit to what I can take. If I see like I'm not if I'm eating chicken and there's chickens walking around in front of me, or there's a dead chicken in front of me, like I'm I can't eat it.

SPEAKER_01

What a horrible environment to be eating food in.

SPEAKER_02

But that's the thing, why would it then be so? Why would it then be so a lob like a lobster linguini with the dead animals that made the lobster linguini?

SPEAKER_01

So I I've got a similar like vibe of you know when people like pick a lobster in like the big tank and they go, I'll have that one. Yeah. I find that fucking savage. I think that is so weird to be like, I want to I'd like to murder that one actually, and then probably consume its innards. And they go, Great choice. Fucking stab it in the skull. Or they'll put it in the water hot, which is just cruel. Yeah, it's it's it's I that I get that.

SPEAKER_02

Why would I then care? But it's like I don't want to look at the.

SPEAKER_01

It's almost like wolves that like people who meat eat meat. It works. We're in France. Wolves that eat pull that. The walls that eat pull that Keep going, you got this, you can do this. The wolves that the people that eat meat put up I'm so proud of that.

SPEAKER_02

That does not make sense, does it?

SPEAKER_01

The walls that people that eat meat put up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That makes sense. The walls put up by the people that eat meat. Thank you.

SPEAKER_02

Alright.

SPEAKER_01

Cool. Um the Oh yeah. You know what I mean? You have to dissociate. There's uh we've discussed before uh on on this podcast and various others that everybody's a hypocrite in some way. The example I gave was when I'm walking my dog and someone's on the same side of the pavement as me, I think, why the fuck are you on my pavement? They're only on my pavement because I'm on their pavement. Do you know what I mean? Little things like that where you give yourself the benefit of the doubt, you don't give it to them. And I think that in general, and I'm the exact same for my sins, eating meat is one of the main ones. I eat pretty much all meat. I don't there's no me that I don't eat morally. Any meat I don't eat so I don't like it. And yet, if someone said, here's a chicken, get it to a plate, you know, a live clucking chicken, I I couldn't do it. I could probably press a this is more hypocrisy. I could probably press a button. If there was a press this button, then it goes instant.

SPEAKER_02

I couldn't do that.

SPEAKER_01

You couldn't press the button.

SPEAKER_02

I couldn't kill an animal like that, no.

SPEAKER_01

Really?

SPEAKER_02

Nope.

SPEAKER_01

I've had to kill a pheasant before.

SPEAKER_02

You've had to.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. So my dog bit a pheasant uh in like in in the bush and he bit it. Oh no. And he was trying to get away, bless it. And he went into the bush and he went, ah, bit it down on it, and I was like, for fuck's sake. So I called him back, bless him, he immediately left this bird alone, came back to me, and I thought, fucking hell, that was good. That was lucky. Um, and then went into the bush, grabbed it, and this poor thing was like flapping about, but it had like broken its wings. I was like, oh my fucking god. Put it in my jacket, and I then jogged home. That poor thing was like passing out, and it was literally like going limp, and I thought, oh fuck, I can I can walk now because it's dead, and like it doesn't really matter anymore. And then it would like wake up and go, fucking hell, and it then start flapping again, and then it'd pass out. Oh my god. It was horrible. So I'd put it in, I put it in like a shoe box, then take it to an uh animal rescue sanctuary type thing near me. When I was then trying to locate the shoebox, it then did just fully like near enough die. And so I was like, oh my god. And then I thought it was like fully dead, but it was definitely just not gonna make it. And like I rang the place and they and they were like, oh, is it moving? I was like, it's not moving for like a minute, and they were like, Yeah, that's like gone. Like it won't it won't survive now if you bring it to us. So I was like, okay, cool. But then I thought, well, if this thing is not currently dead, I would like to now end it suffering, just in case, because I don't want to then put it in a bush or something, and then a cat finds it, and then the cat essentially tortures it and has to ding it. So I just like put it in a bush, put a rock on its head and just stamped on it.

SPEAKER_02

And I was just like, that's how you take it out.

SPEAKER_01

Well, what else am I gonna do?

SPEAKER_02

I thought the whole like blissful way of killing a bird was like breaking its neck or something.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but then I have to go like and then make it. If that's weird, if I fuck that up, yeah. I was thinking if I just straight up crush its skull, it it is dead. If my it's not is not pretty, it's not whatever. Although just headless. Okay, where are we? Um oh I did want to know if you can give us the the brief notes version because we're getting on in time. Your your horror story, if you're willing to share it. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I'll try and do it as quickly as possible. So we booked uh for half nine at nine. Uh it was nine pm, sorry.

SPEAKER_01

Late on dinner.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, well he I think Jack got done at like eight o'clock or something for the colour. Oh, fair enough, okay. So we literally left. We got we got back to the Airbnb, changed quickly, headed out for nine. We got there, it was a busy, busy p little place. We waited twenty minutes before we got seated. We eventually got seated at a very busy restaurant. Um I don't know, I couldn't tell you how big it was, but anyway, we sat down and we waited, we waited, we waited. We ordered and then the I think between from when we ordered to when we got our starter was an entire hour.

SPEAKER_01

Oh that's last walk away.

SPEAKER_02

So bear in mind, it's already about half ten. We just got our starter.

SPEAKER_01

So you're going nowhere else. There's no other option. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Sorry, but this was very slow, you could tell they were getting riled up, stuff like that. Um finish stars uh okay. Another hour goes by and we finally get our mains. It's now half eleven at nine. That's when the lobster comes out.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my god, for two hours and they give you a little lobster thing they said they wouldn't serve you. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_02

So when we played it, and Jack knew, he looked at me and I was like, I can't eat that. Like, I'm disgusted. It put me right off my food. Did you eat it at all? I had a little bit of it and then didn't touch it afterwards because I lit I they called the waiter back and said she said not to have the lobster on it.

SPEAKER_01

So they took it away, took it off, brought it back, and I was just like, But you know that it's I know it came from him and he's now in the bin. It's not about the taste, not about the smell. I now associate this thing with that thing. That's totally fair.

SPEAKER_02

So it's half a living that had a little bit jacket. His meal was atrocious, by the way. He got some like chicken potato dish. It was it looked like a ready meal, like canteen dish. I have a picture of it somewhere that I can show you guys. And the br the vegetables was the two tiniest bits of broccoli and carrot. It l it looked like a school dinner. And it wasn't even that good. And it like Jack Jack very kindly paid for the whole thing. It was like a set meal thing or whatever, and I was like, oh my god, and that's the food that they're serving. Anyway, uh it got to midnight and we still hadn't gotten our desserts, and we were like, uh, by the time we get our desserts, it's probably gonna be one in the morning. So we called one over, which was over. Can we get our desserts to go, please? We've been waiting for 40 minutes. Yeah. And uh she goes, Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then they bring it over within two minutes, they bring the desserts over. And we're we pay, we pay, and we leave, and we walked back to the the Airbnb, and it was just like, I don't know, it was just such a defeat and moment. We spent three hours in a restaurant to eat a starter in a main. We didn't even eat the desserts because we were just so done with it and wanted to go to bed.

SPEAKER_01

Was it expensive as well? Like for the quality.

SPEAKER_02

It was can it was in Canada as well. It was all Canadian, so uh uh dollars, so it was pretty it was pretty expensive, especially being on Valentine's Day, but yeah um it was not it was probably the worst dinner experience I had. And it wasn't even because of like something completely went wrong, it was just the insane wait times between the lack of service, the long waiting, and it wasn't just us as either. There were so many people in the restaurant that were in the exact same boat as us that were just waiting a full hour. Could you sense the vibe was sort of everyone wanted like everyone was on our floor, on the floor was that makes you feel a little bit better though, right?

SPEAKER_01

Like that makes you feel better than if everyone else was having a wonderful time for candle, you know, dinner, candles in their eyes, then making lobsters in between them, giants poking it.

SPEAKER_00

I'm here to!

SPEAKER_02

It just felt like it was we were all like held hostage by this like family-run Italian restaurant.

SPEAKER_01

And they're also probably thinking, like, you've got nowhere else to fucking go. Yeah. Because it's Valentine's Day, baby.

SPEAKER_02

And then they had the nerve on our way out to give us like, they gave everyone like a rose. They gave me a rose, and I'm like, fuck out.

SPEAKER_01

This is from the lobster at the end of the bar. Yeah, that's fair. That's very fair. Um, I've got a an animal-related one. Yeah. Oh god. Um, we are all all dog owners here. We are. We are all owner dogs. Dog type, dog breed, for those who don't know. Uh like a German Shepherd-esque, Romanian rescue, fucking like 20 odd breeds. Part of coyote, which is fun. I've got a Cavachon, little Cavachon called Jasper, he's very cute.

SPEAKER_02

I've got Yorkshire Terrier.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I think that's a good thing. So two small dogs. Yeah. And then big boy dog. Yep. Um mine is uh off-lead walkers in essentially any context, but not all. So not all contexts. So, um, as I am a man who owns a reactive dog, and he is a big dog that can do damage to other smaller dogs, the amount of fucking times that I will go to a public place, like a like a public park, or you know when there's like a um uh like a wreck or saying, it's like three football pitches or something, it's like a Sunday league thing. Um, and I'll I'll always get like a perimeter around and like he'll be on like a long extendable lead and he'll go off and sniff things and stuff. Um, the amount of times where like there's normally like an older couple that have got like a little shit yappy dog that will just like come walking over or come boundling over, and I'll then just, you know, get my dog nice and close to me. But he he's actively scared of small dogs now because of this. Um when they come over, he tends to he tries to pull away from them because he's like, I hate this. He hates like puppies, he hates small dogs because that amount of things are like nipped by them and stuff. Um, and it's when you then say to people, and I'm like, Can you get your dog back? Yeah, and they go, Yeah, and then just keep walking. And I'm like, no, I'm sorry. My dog could fucking kill your dog. In like what I'm not doing it for my dog's benefit. Yeah, he's stressed, but he'll get over it. He could kill your dog right now.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, like his um his reaction can change from being scared to because that's what Arlo does. I was like, I'm fully with you on this bar. The lever's been broken. I pulled that lever.

SPEAKER_01

But like I needed a win in this episode. I pulled out the big guns.

SPEAKER_02

The way Arlo reacts, she's a very anxious dog.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And no matter what, she does not go up to dogs ever. And if they come up to her, her initial reaction is to kind of, you know, tail task, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like when I say if it gets too much for her, she'll change and she's not aggressive, but she'll do she'll snap. Yeah, you know?

SPEAKER_01

Little bit of like back off like a holy shit, I've given you the warning signs that I'm not happy. Fuck off.

SPEAKER_02

What scares me, it doesn't scare me that she'll attack, it's what other dogs might do if she does that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I hate it. There is a French bulldog in my apartment building. The amount of times I've run into this bloody dog off-leash, yeah, and this thing has in the building. Yeah, so it cut it down. Uh no, it's in that in our co in our courtyard. Right. And uh it's off-leash, and the every time, every time without fail, the dog's running over to Ilo and he's calling the guy, the owner is calling, uh, I don't know the dog's name, they'll call him Milo. Milo Milo. Yeah, bad, blah, blah, blah. It clearly does not listen in the city. It has no recall.

SPEAKER_01

Dogs, dogs with no recall, like that. That's it's I guess it's on that similar trend. If a dog, ultimately, if a dog has good recall, then I think fair play.

SPEAKER_00

If it's all fleas, it's fine.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's why I mean it's not in every circumstance. This is for talking about in a dog walking area, a grass, a green square, or on the pavement. Because on the pavement, 100% of the time, no matter how well trained your dog is, that that's 100% of the time. That's mad. I've heard stories as quick. I've heard stories of like super well-trained dogs, you know, cross-level, well-trained. See their dog walk on the other side of the road, cross the road and get squished. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Like it can happen like that, no matter how well trained your dog is. I think that, yes, there's there's scenarios where I would say, if you're if you're a responsible dog owner, you know the limits of your dog, and you will let your dog off lead when you know it's okay and if it has good recall. At that point, I do then think that's fine. As long as your dog goes back to you, power to you, that's so good. You've trained your dog really well. I love that view. That's true. And you're concentrating on it, too. Yeah, and you're concentrating on it. Rovers running about, you're there on Tinder, oh no matches. Like, I know the limits of my dog, and that's he can't do that in that kind of space. But if we go to the beach, then I know for a fact that he and he's away from all dogs, he will basically not leave my side. He'll go like three metres away at most, and he I know where he is. And he, even if there's a dog running around over there, he won't give a shit because it's not paying attention to him. He's good with that. But as soon as we're in that kind of field, I'm like, no, you're staying on your lead, that's your limit, and that's okay. Like, I get maybe maybe like my reframe is like pet owners that don't know their pets' limits. Yeah, yeah. Like they don't know what their pet is actually capable of.

SPEAKER_02

Pet owners not actually being owners and training their dogs, yeah. Because it's not very usually the dog's fault. The dog doesn't understand.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, the dog's just doing its thing, it wants to go see another dog, right?

SPEAKER_02

Exactly, and I mean like it's a different scenario because you've got a big dog. Maybe you'll understand more because you've got a small dog, but you know, big dogs go for little dogs sometimes, especially if they're aggressive. The amount of times that I've been on a walk with Arlo and a dog's went before. There was well, there was one time you started walking with Arlo, and granted, this dog was on the lead, I think it was a homeless guy in the stuff. But the dog lunched at Arlo, she wasn't in the tight path, she went onto the road. And obviously, I could only react so fast I pulled her back up into the room.

SPEAKER_01

But that's back towards the dog, then, so it's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and it's like obviously that that was a little bit of a more you know times event. Yes.

SPEAKER_01

Well, that's like in the same thing I was saying, when someone's showing my payment, my dog was like, so he was like, Oh, sorry, and I was like annoyed at it, but I was like, you know, nothing happens, it's fine.

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But then those scenarios where it's like they're off the leash, they don't have recall, that French bulldog was running to one time we tried in the farm and the dog comes running out. The French bulls come and fight my dog, I know I'll get high. I don't know what that dog's gonna do. So I pick her up, and as I pick her up, and I know that's a bad thing to do because it's like a thing that if a dog encourages them. But I I literally didn't even pick her out. I went to do that, and he went for her, and I'd like to do that. I was oh my god, and Jack's like, calm down, calm down, sorry. I was like, No, that dog went for her. And the guy comes in, oh Kimmy, oh sorry, oh do one.

SPEAKER_01

Sorry, there's nothing there because he's not gonna go. You've not learned the behaviour. It's time for me to train. I have had full shouting matches with people because I get very angry with this because ultimately Enzo's done very, very well. He's learned a huge amount, I'm very proud of him, but it sets him back every now and then, and it's very frustrating. And I have like I can shout loudly. I have shouted like my fucking lungs out at people when they've just been completely negligent. They're dogs. I let us say like a few months ago, like January or February, um, two little dogs, which is what kind of maybe put this on my list. Two little dogs come running up, and they like I said, I go on the perimeter of this big field, it's like three football pitches. They like were kind of cutting through the middle, which nobody does, and they're also kind of walking directly at us. So I then see them about to intersect, so I then stop and then keep Enzo with me, assuming then they're gonna go either like that or past me, at which point I know what to do and I can figure it out. They then, both their dogs, like Spring of Spaniels or something, run up to him, they're circling him, trying to sniff him. He blesses him, he's got his tail between his legs, he's then really scared, he's trying to pull away. I'm saying to these people, get your dogs now. Yeah. They're then like walking over, they're not even calling their dogs' names. Yeah. I'm then like swearing, saying, get your fucking dogs now. I'm not doing this for him, I'm doing it for your dogs, get your dogs. And then the guy went, alright. I mean, fuck yourself. Fuck you! Get your fucking dogs, you prick. And then him and his wife were like, like, oh my god, I can't believe that. Yeah. And it's like, you're a fucking moron. Get your dog. I was like, you know when you're like shaking with anger. I was a pop apoplectic. I was a plippa popoplectic. I was in bigly time.

SPEAKER_02

Well, the thing is, people don't seem to understand that I you probably agree, I would kick a dog.

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I have kicked a dog. I have kicked a dog away, yeah.

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If I can't get to my dog on time and it goes for it, I'm beating the shit out of the dog.

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I kicked one of these spaniels because it was going around the back of Enter, and the other one's like trying to sniff his mouth. Yeah. So I then literally see his one and I go, nope. And I'll just like I don't like kick it, but like, you know, we don't like yes, yeah, scoop. Like I put my foot like on his chest or side and just went like that. Yeah. And it did like the whole kind of thing. But I was just like, I was like, I think that's a game. Yeah. A bit of shovel, oh, this is great, I'll go back. That's the thing the thing about dog ownership is that anything that makes sense to a human can mean the opposite to a dog. So picking up your dog, you know, to a human means, oh, this dog doesn't want to be around anything. To a dog who I think, whoa, look at that, that thing's moving, this is great, let's get it, let's get it, let's get it. And it ramps it all up. Me shouting is me barking, which then makes Enzo more scared, which then doesn't help, but I'm also fucking pissed off. And for the people who, you know, say the people that did lose track of their dog, they'd come running up, dogs are thinking, This is great, we're playing chase. Yeah, yeah. So it does become very difficult to know what to do in any one situation. It's it's an incredible thing. Equally, the dog. Exactly, exactly. That's my edible dog thing. I know what Enzo can do, and so I don't let him do that. I've had to do you know what you said about like picking the dog up. I've had to do that with Enzo. I used to live next door to a fucking disgusting cunt of a couple.

SPEAKER_00

That's the one.

SPEAKER_01

That's one of them then. Okay. I think they were genuinely incest, right? Um and one of them had like a baby, again, maybe an incest baby. I truly don't know. They're like a revolting. Uh brilliant. Um, they were two doors down. Um and they had this incredibly aggressive, like staffy type dog, really dense thing. Um multiple times, I'd go to take the dog out for a walk, and I'd or never walk past them, I always like walked the other way to the field. Um and it would like run out of their front garden because it was off lead all the time. This would also run across the road and run up to people. It would then would run, try and attack at my dog, I'd then kick it away. The bloke then had a go at me. So I'd then pick Enzo up, and I again I'm screaming at him, like, get your dog, and he's gonna say, like, oh, don't be a dickhead. Holding this 15. My dog or a house. And I'm just like, do you think there's a reason for this, mate? I honest to God was like a second away from just beating the shit out of him. Oh my god. I was so angry. And it happened like three times. And one of the times was when one of my friends came over, they've got like a big Newfoundland, like big, big dog. We took them both out for a walk, and then this dog comes running out, and then he like goes to nip at the Newfoundland, who's a really lovely, beautiful, really chill dog as they normally are. I then pick Enzo up, and then my mates looking at me like, what the fuck is going on? Who was this dog? Yeah. And I'm like kicking it away. And it was it was insane. But yeah, again, yeah, my my point is, and I think it's a bit of an easy dub, is dog owners that have no sense of the limits of their dog or their pet. I think if anyone doesn't pull the lever for that, that's gonna be a big thing. It's a big yank. It's a big yck. Like it's onto room 202, that doubles up. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Do you want to know the fun? Do you know how to properly uh you know if a dog attacks another dog and they're like latched on, do you know the proper way to actually get them off?

SPEAKER_01

Finger with the bum.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Is that the only way?

SPEAKER_02

Well, it's the it's the gun. You can do that. That's one of the ways. That's the funny way. Or um you lift their hind legs up because you make you force them to lose balance, and so then they'll let go. They usually should unless they're insane and then they just start hovering. Maybe they'll not lift up.

SPEAKER_01

I imagine there's some dogs that will just fucking hang on for like DLI.

SPEAKER_02

But you're supposed you're supposed to lift their hind legs first to see if they'll let go and then pull them back. Oh, I've just backed myself. Um and if that doesn't work, then yeah, fing finger the finger the bum basically.

SPEAKER_01

Finger in the bum. I'm going finger in the bum step more. Because it's like it's such a weird thing, but it it works.

SPEAKER_02

So if you if you're in a in a minute.

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None of us have to do that. That'd be nice, that'd be nice.

SPEAKER_02

I would I would punch, I'd punch the show with that dog's butt.

SPEAKER_01

That's fair. Well, speaking of punching animals, I've got my third one. Alright, last one. The third thing that I'll put the third thing that I want to put in room 101, swans.

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Swans.

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With a dramatic screen. Can I say on to that?

SPEAKER_02

Say again? Can I add on to that? Please do.

SPEAKER_01

I know what you're gonna do. We spoke about this in the airport. What are you thinking about? Geese. Yes, geese can go too. Alright, alright, let me let me let me tell you why I want to do swans, and then we can say why you want to do geese as well. Because swans, they're like the trust fund kids of the animal kingdom. You know, they swan about as they are want to do.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly. As they are swan to do.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, we're protected by the queen. We're so graceful with our stupid long comedy snappable neck, just going about searching for children and puppies to bite. Volume down. Sorry, I'm getting passionate. The mic is must be getting passionate and break the arms of, yeah, right? And then they're called graceful, you know, they're going, it's funny. Under they're not graceful, they're little feet, they're going underneath. It's all fake. It's all smoke and mirrors for the swan. And they know it. They will search for any creature. If you're on a canal boat, if you're walking your dog quite innocently down the river, similar to geese, they will find you. They've got heat-seeking missiles for joy, and they will find it, and they will snap it, going, ha, you can't get me back. You can't I'm protected by the queen, you can't get the swamp. There's only two species that are protected by the queen in fact. That's the other one. No, no, it's in like two species of swan. Oh. Not all of them are. Oh, really? I don't know the difference between the swans. But I know that it's only two species. It was a different one. It was the lesser spotter. It's fucking one of them. But yeah, I I I think they're overrated. They are pretty. Yeah, but I think they're pricks.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I mean, geese are the same. I mean, right now, cause when I run, I run on a canal, and that's where you most of the geese rely. And uh it's their breeding season, so a lot of them are having little baby geese. Anyway, I want to run another week. I think ghostlings is geese. I mean, anytime I've walked my dog, they try and go for Islo. I freak out, but Jack tells me, oh, that's just you just because you're scared of them. And I'm like, no, no, she'll die.

SPEAKER_01

Not with geese.

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Um, then I went on the run anyway last week, and I was running on a clatterl, and this geese, I swear this guy ran past me. It was fine. Oh, the cyclist went by me, that's fine. Because my time to go by the two geese. I swear to God, the geese went like this. Look, I I'm not even joking. I witnessed it, it looked made eye contact with me, it opened its mouth, made the hiss, and I'm like, I'm not walking past you. Uh so I stood, you made fun of me for this. I did the piss up. I stood where I was because I was at a fair distance away from you. Well, I must have gonna run. I waited for another runner to come past me.

SPEAKER_00

That is bad.

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And I said, I said, I said to them, I'm so sorry, can I run with you just to get past these geese? I'm terrified of them. And she's like, Yeah, no problem. And she let me run on the further side of them because it's a path. It's not like I can run on the grass around or you know, the canals right there. It's like I have to get by them.

SPEAKER_01

I love that you asked, by the way, instead of just doing it. Yeah, true. You could have just like carried on and run with them.

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They would have seen me stop and then wait for them and then start running again. And plus, like, I feel like when it comes to people running, people that are running, like, they're usually like, they don't really care, you know. But I thought the funny part after that is like after she ran past the geese with me, um, she was like, I was like, thank you, and she put her headphone back in, and then she went back to her pace, which was 500 miles an hour. Um yeah, but I um I hate them. But because it's their breeding season, they're vicious because they're protect they're protecting their babies.

SPEAKER_01

So what I would say, so I hate geese as well. I hate I've I've said this for for many years. What I would say about geese is that at least they're sort of like they're sort of from the ghetto. They've been raised in a position where they have to do that. Do you know what I mean? That's the only way they get any grain. It's the only way they get any seeds and worms, right? They have to fight for it, they have to fucking scrap for everything. Come here, you know, that's what they're all about. They are very skowskis. Whereas swans, they're like they're like sorry bullies. Do you know what I mean? Spoon silver spoon in their mouth. Exactly. They go, oh, make me this, or father will have you deported. That is the swan. You're looking like you want to say, what do you want to say? You want to defend the swan? I just I Is it because they're this is such a tough sell to me. I really I like them. I actively like geese. I actively like swans. Yeah. I will want to be near them. I will, I I like them.

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They're so vicious though. They are actually vicious animals.

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I think I think that they can sense your intention.

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I think that smells fear.

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I can figure it smell. They smell like shit. When there's like loads of geese and swans around, and there's like all the shit like on the riverbank or like canal or something, and that's disgusting. But it's awesome animals, so what can you do? Um I I like them. I think that a swan, admittedly, has a very kickable neck. Oh, just a big thing. Because imagine like kicking the s the neck of a swan and then the head takes a second to catch up. That's fun. It splashes the water. Love that. That's fun. Yeah, that's good. I like that. I think that for me. Because I think that they're pretty, I do think they're pretty. I think they're nice. Yep. Um they that they are um essentially the designer of pedalo. Yes, yes, they're essentially. I mean, they didn't even come out with their own design. They they can't they saw the humble pedalo and thought, I'll match that. Uh interesting that that's evolution, baby. That's how it's done. That's evolution. Prove that wrong, atheists. I think that I I think that the the the goslings and swanlings are so cute. They're cute when they're fuzzy. So cute little babies. Yeah. Or when they're like you know, like the in between the ones where it's like kind of a big fluffy gosling. Yeah. And it's like pre-swan, that's nice.

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Okay, full-size adult goose.

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Yeah, I I I I like I like them. They're too big.

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A swan's prettier than a goose. This is why I'm on the fence right now with the goose. I think the geese are uglier. If you said geese, I'd be 100% with you, but because you said swan, I'm like, I've not had a a an experience with it to feel the same as if it was a goose.

SPEAKER_01

A goose is definitely uglier. I mean with swans as well.

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But I know that they're just as vicious.

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We were in some park in London, I think, when we were doing like copper box work, and there was like this American tourist and uh this this this this mum and her like I don't know, five-year-old son, they were right up to a swan. And I was like, sorry, you know that swan could break that child's arm. Is that is that a myth? I think it might be a myth, Mal. I think it might be a myth. I don't know for the records. They've cultivated it, they've cultivated that that fact. You know what I mean? I learned that the hard way because we used to have geese in our garden. What?

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So it chased you, you turned around and changed.

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It would turn to you, he's like, and come up to you and hiss at you. They're horrible. They don't, you know the whole thing about, oh, if you leave it alone, it'll leave you alone. Yeah. Geese don't subscribe to that at all. However, one day we just thought, fuck this, and I went into the garden, I was like, come here.

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And I chased it, and it went and ran around.

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I was chasing it around in a circle.

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Did it make that noise?

SPEAKER_01

I found Exactly. I found a definitive uh answer on discoverwildlife.com. And do you reckon they can actually take down children's arms? I'll go with yes.

SPEAKER_02

Uh maybe a baby, but not uh depends on your child age, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Uh it's a very, very funny sentence that they've written here. Completely in earnest. Okay. Um while swans are very powerful birds, it's very unlikely that a swan could directly break your arm unless you have brittle bones or you're a child. So, yes, it could break the same. It could. It's more likely to break a child's arm. Um and then it says, uh that's not to say you couldn't injure yourself as a result of being hit by a swan, you could fall over and break your arm. Literally true. I think that's not really the fault of the swan at that point. You could say the same about daddy long legs. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Whoops. It said mostly it's to do with like it could cause you bruising. Um I think And it can't fight back, and it knows that.

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You actually can't hit it. What happens if you hit a swan? The queen. The queen comes out.

SPEAKER_01

What the necromancer queen?

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Um It'd be the king, though. Still the queen. It's amazing.

SPEAKER_01

Still the queen. Yeah. They're powerful. Uh they've got powerful spells. Necromancer swans. Powerful necks as well.

SPEAKER_02

Does the queen not also like protect seashells and stuff as well on beaches?

SPEAKER_01

That's just yeah, that's bad for the environment to take seashells from beaches. You shouldn't do that.

SPEAKER_02

Apparently the seashells are protected by the queen too.

SPEAKER_01

Wow. I didn't know it was by the queen. I knew it was like a general protection thing because there's lots of environments that use shells, and it's like calcium that you're then taking from the environment and all that. Crabs and stuff. Crabs and the crazy.

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I mean, I might be wrong, but that's.

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That's how they get to Joe's plate if lure them in with seashells.

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Um I'll let's go hand on levers.

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I'm pulling. Three, two, one. Come on. Yes! I'm not bullshit. Evil big fat birds. Yeah.

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If they were a bit more chill and didn't care, maybe maybe once the breeding season's over, maybe they'll chill out.

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I hope they do, but try chasing them. And I guarantee they'll run away. Actually, I don't want to guarantee that. Would you say boom to a goose? I I think you'd have to. Like, what do you do?

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So it hisses at you, it's gone for you, but it's not a little bit more. Maybe you need to. What do you then do?

SPEAKER_01

You just have to retaliate that point it's too late. Maybe you have to see the goose from 50 metres away. And chase it. And go, Oi, goosey, get in there, and just sprint after it. And he tells them. Well, everybody, if you've got a room 101 saying that you would like the council at some point to banish, potentially banish. We might not banish it. Yes, we might not. But float it into contention, let us know. Pop it in a comment on one of our platforms, or send it to us on one of our social media platforms somewhere. That was episode 30. That was. Should we, and Joe, you can get involved with this, every 10 episodes, we decide whether we renew the podcast for another 10 episodes. Is it worth our time? Should we is it worth the effort of doing this weekly? Because we've never actually stuck to doing something weekly until this. So I'd like to I'd like to float uh I'd like to float uh a yes to another ten. Uh I'll vote no. So Joe, it's up to you.

SPEAKER_02

Why no?

SPEAKER_01

Because it's up to you, that's more interesting. It's up to you.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, so you just forced a 50-50.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Right. I'd love if you said yes, by the way. This it this feels like Brexit all over again. Where I think it's assert like dead on that. We're remaining. You will have to fuck a pig if Joe says no. Not again. Yeah. Not again.

SPEAKER_02

Uh no, I think I think you should do another 10. I mean, why not? If you enjoy it and it's a once-a-week shenanigan, like, you know, what's that? Plus, you just get to chat a little bollocks for exactly basically it.

SPEAKER_01

Joe, we didn't really explain who the fuck you are. Um so uh work on people's best. Uh could you please uh let people know where to find you and all that stuff, all that shit.

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To the camera.

SPEAKER_01

I don't fucking care.

SPEAKER_02

Alright, um Hello. My name is Joyneys. If you didn't catch it at the start, I'm a Rocket League streamer. I do bits and bobs all over the place. Usernames on every platform is the same. I do do treatment on Twitch on post on YouTube um the short form stuff as well. Uh I don't podcast, so this is actually my first one. I can't believe that. What? Yeah, I've never been asked to be on a podcast before. I guess I'm just not very funny.

SPEAKER_01

You won't be coming back. No, true, not for the record. To sort of get why, but yeah, it was a punt. Yeah. Merely here to fill the old quota. Um, so you tell me. Yeah, you were on DJ. Let's keep it. I was about to say, let's keep it down. Finally, the hand movement works to activate the lives. I've been quite enjoying the pirouettes, I thought I do feel ill now. You can find uh all of Joe's links in our description uh on YouTube, probably, and we'll probably tweet out and stuff like that. But yeah, um everybody, this was officially episode number thirty of officially the best podcast on the internet. Fucking cheers, everyone, and you'll find out why we're in France pretty soon. Bye.

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You just flip off the camera.