Wrap It Up #1 w/ Shrimpbeef

We're just a couple goofs goofing around.

Movies kind of covered: Jaws, Air Bud, Challengers, Forrest Gump

Transcript

SPEAKER_04 0:00

Um I'm gonna take a little can you hand me a little poof? Can you hand me that jar? This one? This jar? No, the jar, yes. This one. There's two jars. There are not.

SPEAKER_03 0:11

This is a jar. That is a candle. Well, look at me.

SPEAKER_04 0:16

Um alright. How do you guys feel? Awesome. I feel good. Did anybody bring segments?

SPEAKER_03 0:22

No.

SPEAKER_04 0:23

That's okay.

SPEAKER_03 0:24

No. Okay. Never. Is this the Oscar one, right?

SPEAKER_04 0:28

No, this is not the Oscar one. What is this one? This is just recap of movies. Have fun. It's just have fun recap movies.

SPEAKER_05 0:35

I like that. Yeah. So we I was under the wrong impression. I thought it was a script. No, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_04 0:42

We are this is you have no segments? No. Okay. I'm sorry. No, that's fine. I I made a whole outline, so we're good. Alright. Sweet. Yeah. I will talk about Cycle Killer, certainly. That's a segment for me. Alright. Um, fantastic. I'm gonna do a little poof. Does anybody need anything before we get started?

SPEAKER_03 1:01

I'm good. I'm ready.

SPEAKER_05 1:02

So yeah. That's the Three Mile Island thing is like it actually my jaw dropped when they revealed that that's what was happening.

SPEAKER_03 1:11

Yeah, you're like, well, that's yeah, that's timely, Three Mile Island.

SPEAKER_05 1:15

And I think it it's probably the first well, no, there was a movie called China Syndrome. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Which I found out about afterwards. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:23

But other than that, I think the only Three Mile Island related movie happened like 40 years or 50 years after the advance of it. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah, they made us watch China Syndrome in school. In like middle school, right? Yeah. Yeah, I don't I don't really know why. I had never heard of it. Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 1:45

It was um the Florida education system.

SPEAKER_03 1:48

Yeah, I don't even know if it was part of like the curriculum, but just they believe it in Florida. It's still, yeah, it's like creationism. No, I mean it's it's kind of a liberal movie. Uh because it's like I think it's is it Diane Keaton or something? Um but it's like, yeah, it's to raise awareness of this thing that could potentially happen, like how like a nuclear meltdown would like basically explode the earth or something.

SPEAKER_05 2:16

Right. That's not true though.

SPEAKER_03 2:18

Is that that's not what it is?

SPEAKER_05 2:20

I well I I think that's what the the theory is, but I don't think that that's uh possible. I don't think that it can uh melt a hole to the Earth's core.

SPEAKER_03 2:30

Yeah, no, no no no, but that's like why they call it. But I think the thing is that like whatever the reactor would get like so hot, it would like melt all the water, and then it would like it would melt all the water, just so you know. Yeah, it would melt all the water that it's in. Um and then it would disappear and there'd be no water. Because it's called evaporation. It is called evaporation because nuclear reactors are just steam energy. That's true. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 2:56

They're very green. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 2:59

Other than other than the well, the radioactive fallout that would happen. That that's like the real danger, right?

SPEAKER_05 3:05

Because that's Yes. Yeah. Historically. That has been the real danger.

SPEAKER_04 3:11

Um the real danger is we lose all these great coal jobs.

SPEAKER_05 3:17

Yeah, good paid American coal jobs. Nobody's gonna get black lung anymore. No. So who are the doctors gonna treat?

SPEAKER_04 3:25

We're gonna be overrun with canaries.

SPEAKER_05 3:27

Yeah. The canary invasive species, can the canary syndrome. That's the next sequel.

SPEAKER_03 3:34

Have you guys been to a coal mine museum ever? No. Um, maybe. Yeah. Yeah. There's one in Scranton, Pennsylvania. That's where my dad is from. And uh they really do take you down. They take you really far down into into the mines, and they do a tour. Um, and at one part, I went when I was younger, but they have like a uh a fake mm what would it be called? Like a caven? Like a fake caven. Yeah. And they just have like one hand that's like reaching out from the cave, and the guy's giving the tour, and he has like a button he presses, and the hand like you know, moves like randomly. That's a good tour. It's a great bit. It was great, but my sister freaked out, she screamed so loud. Uh, but a lot of people did, but it was great. You could tell that the tour guide like really enjoyed doing it. He gets off on that. Yeah. I mean, it really is scary because like you are really deep into the earth. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 4:34

I've been to the mammoth caves um in the Midwest. Nice. It's like uh I'm probably one of the largest like linked cave systems or something like that. That's a that's the only real cave thing I've done. You're not a big cave guy. I'm no, I love caves. I'm scared of like underground like the descent is one of the scariest movies to me just because of the claustrophobia of it.

SPEAKER_03 5:02

Um not the like weird primeval monsters.

SPEAKER_04 5:05

No, those guys are cute.

SPEAKER_03 5:06

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 5:08

They're like Lord of the Ring, bro.

SPEAKER_04 5:10

But when you're like squeezing through or like when you watch those uh Nutty Putty? Nutty putty?

SPEAKER_05 5:15

Yeah, Nutty Putty Cave.

SPEAKER_04 5:17

Oh, what's that?

SPEAKER_05 5:18

It's like the most famous like epic of the cave exploring deaths. Uh I think they actually sealed it up after this guy died in it because it's like. They sealed it with Nutty Putty? I think that's what it's called. Yeah. Yeah. Uh silly putty. They sealed it with silly putty. It's called Nutty Putty. But yeah, after this guy died, and it was like so horrific that they sealed the cave. Because it was like they were like nobody can go in here.

SPEAKER_03 5:45

Yeah, yeah, this isn't fun anymore.

SPEAKER_05 5:46

There's a part of it that's called the birth canal because it's so narrow. And then uh he got stuck like upside down in his shaft.

SPEAKER_02 6:01

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 6:02

Um and he was alive for like hours because they you know, there was nothing killing him in there.

SPEAKER_03 6:10

Right. It's horrible. Yeah, I mean it's a horrible death. You probably just die of shock or starvation or something. I don't even want to think about it, but yeah, they left him there.

SPEAKER_05 6:19

Yeah. Because they couldn't even get his body out after he was dead, I don't think. That may be that may be wrong. But I think they sealed him.

SPEAKER_04 6:24

He could still be down there. Well, I saw Floyd Collins uh at the Lincoln Center last year. That's a story about a man who, you know, back in back in the day, you'd find a cave and you'd sell tickets and tours and you'd get your fortune off that. And his name is Floyd Collins, and there's a real story, and that's what he would do, is he would go down in these caves and find them. Um, and he found his his one cave. Oh we own then all of a sudden uh he's in a shaft and a small cave happens and his legs get stuck, and then there's this whole media circus that builds around the entrance to the cave. People start like selling, you know, little dolls and stuff while he's dying down in this. This is fictional. No, this is real. Oh. Yeah, it's about like one of the first big like media circuses in America history.

SPEAKER_05 7:16

When uh did that happen? Approximately.

SPEAKER_04 7:19

Um now I have to look it up.

SPEAKER_05 7:21

Like just a century will do.

SPEAKER_04 7:22

Yeah. Floyd Collins year of actual events. Of actual Floyd Collins. Of actual Floyd. The true Floyd Collins. Uh, William Floyd Collins was an American cave explorer who became trapped and died in the Mammoth Cave National Park. Um it was uh he was born 1887 and he died in 1925 in Cave City, Kentucky.

SPEAKER_05 7:48

That's a good time for a media circus.

SPEAKER_03 7:50

Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You just get over the um you know, you got the radios going on, you get over the telegraph, probably get some like pictures going. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 8:02

Um, his uh you know dad became like a wild alcoholic. Um and his brother was like, why why don't we just let him die? Um and his sister had some sort of like she was kind of uh crazy uh to use a very uh you know not sensitive parlance of um and she could claim that she could like hear his voice under the ground and talk to the crickets and send them down to him.

SPEAKER_05 8:32

That's cool.

SPEAKER_04 8:33

Yeah, religious psychosis. Yeah. The last the la one of the last lines of the opening song is while looking for his fortune under the ground. Sure enough, his fortune was what he found.

SPEAKER_05 8:49

Wow, ominous.

SPEAKER_04 8:50

Yes, his eternal reward. Yes, as Jafar says.

SPEAKER_05 8:54

I can't wait till they make a nutty putty musical. It's gonna be really sad.

SPEAKER_03 9:00

Yeah. Also, it sounds like if they did seal something, I know they didn't seal it with silly putty, but if they did, it's kind of just asking for more people to go in, you know? Because it's like not secure. Yeah, with silly putty, because then it's like, okay, well, this is like this is good for like media.

SPEAKER_05 9:15

I think they're like rocks or cement.

SPEAKER_03 9:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 9:18

If they seal it with silly putty, it's good for media because you can just take a newspaper, press it up against the cave wall, and you can read the newspaper.

SPEAKER_03 9:26

You can sip your coffee with both hands.

SPEAKER_05 9:28

Depending on I don't know when Nutty Putty happened, but I think it was like in the like 2010s, maybe.

SPEAKER_03 9:36

The man's name was Nutty Putty?

SPEAKER_05 9:38

No, that's the name of the cave.

SPEAKER_03 9:39

Oh, he's talking about the disasters. There's been so many cave things, they all blend together to me. It's like part of the news cycle. To me, there's a new cycle. It's cave, flesh-eating bacteria, um, and then like a new vi like Ebola, but then COVID was like a big one.

SPEAKER_05 9:58

I don't know. We're due for a cave disaster. Yeah. I haven't heard about one.

SPEAKER_03 10:01

We're due for a cave disaster.

SPEAKER_04 10:03

Does cave kind of meld in with well or that kind of thing?

SPEAKER_03 10:08

I mean, yeah, I would say too, like tie that's the tie one with like Elon Musk where he said he was gonna like make a submarine and like send it in to save the the kids.

SPEAKER_04 10:16

And then he called uh like the leader of the Philippines who's leading or the guy who was leading the rescue efforts, like uh the F F word. Yeah, he's like, you're doing it all wrong.

SPEAKER_05 10:25

Okay. I don't remember that.

SPEAKER_03 10:27

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 10:28

So like a trapped disaster more than a it doesn't have to be cave. Oh yeah, but Ocean Gate counts as that.

SPEAKER_03 10:35

Oh, the uh the Titanic one? Yeah. That was that was unique. They didn't get trapped, but that was truly unique.

SPEAKER_04 10:42

They got disintegrated by millions of pounds of pressure. Yeah. Which is cool as hell.

SPEAKER_05 10:48

It's pretty badass.

SPEAKER_04 10:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:50

And plus they were all dumb millionaires, so also there's no way that they felt anything. Like that's that's honestly a really good way. I would much rather die that way than be trapped in a cave for days. They felt fear probably.

SPEAKER_04 11:03

Yeah, but like But they didn't know that it was Yeah, they didn't know that it was gonna they just kind of No, I mean there was From what I I like watched a special about it. Yeah, me too. And apparently there was like a point of no return where they were like some people were voicing concerns and they were like, well, no, this seems like it's fine to continue to go down, and you could actually like hear the cracking of the hull.

SPEAKER_01 11:27

That's so scary. Yeah, they were relatively aware of what was up there.

SPEAKER_03 11:33

Yeah, but I'm saying like it's like you don't know that it happened. You know what I mean? It's happens and then you're dead.

SPEAKER_04 11:42

Yeah. You're done, you're dying, you're dead.

SPEAKER_05 11:46

My ultimate and original point though was because of the era in which Nutty Putty happened, that if they were to make a musical about it, it would have to be a dubstep musical. The first dubstep musical.

SPEAKER_04 11:58

That'd be cool as hell.

SPEAKER_05 11:59

Yeah, I know. And the first cave well, no, not the first caving disaster musical. No.

SPEAKER_04 12:05

Possibly not even the first dubstep musical. We're just not as familiar with you know contemporary musicals as we maybe should be.

SPEAKER_05 12:12

Yeah. I'm definitely not.

SPEAKER_03 12:15

No, I I I don't think there's been a dubstep musical. I could be pretty like like a pure like Skrillix. Not necessarily Skrillix, but like uh like an immersive dubstep genre musical. I don't think that's that's been existed.

SPEAKER_04 12:31

Yeah. Um, well, you know, we've got us three experts on this topic sitting around talking, and that's what you're gonna get today. Welcome to Squequels, it's a sequel podcast. My name is Jordan. I'm also Jordan.

SPEAKER_05 12:46

And I'm also Jordan.

SPEAKER_04 12:48

We've got three Jordans today. We've cut the fat. Fuck Jude, fuck shrimps. They provide nothing. Um, let's just get three great uh opinions from three Jordans.

SPEAKER_05 13:01

Jordan Seption, bro.

SPEAKER_04 13:03

Jordan Seption Shrimps. It's so back. Uh it's so good to have you back in the room with us.

SPEAKER_05 13:07

We're so back.

SPEAKER_04 13:08

We're so back. We're so back. It's been forever. It was the last time New Year's. Um, no. Airbud. Airbud, yes. Yeah. Uh, Jude, it's good to be in the same room with you. We just did a recording remotely. Yes. And it's really hard to like lock you into the vision to the experience when you're there's not another guest and it's just you and me on camera talking. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 13:32

Your ADHD fires in so many. It does. It does. It goes off in a lot of different directions. But I feel like we held uh we held it steady for uh fourth gump.

SPEAKER_04 13:41

We did. I I do I will tell you, just because I I finished editing it just a couple hours ago, actually, um, is that there's about like 25 minutes of just tangents that I was like, I think this is even too far for our podcast. Where I'm like, I don't even know how we got here.

SPEAKER_03 14:00

Oh wow. That's good. I hope they were good. I don't even remember what they were about. I'm trying to think, but I can't.

SPEAKER_04 14:06

Yeah, don't worry about it. I'll go back to it. Let's just look forward to the future. How does that sound? Sounds good. And as we look forward to the future, we're gonna look into the past. Um, with our last four movies we did on the podcast, um, we're just gonna kind of talk about uh the experience. We're gonna talk about you know producing this, and uh, we're gonna go off on some tangents about things really not even related to the movies, but if they happen to connect back to our experience with the movies, that's fine. Uh the first thing I want to say is Jude, yeah, uh, in this last cycle of films, um, we got our first email. Yes. Um, very exciting. Fan mail. Fan mail. Um, they gave us a list of movies that they want us to cover, and I just want to go over this list of movies with shrimps in the room and see what his opinions on those are.

SPEAKER_05 14:58

This is like to to sequel?

SPEAKER_04 15:01

Yes. Okay. This is what they want to see. Um, so this email was from Caitlin. Um we love you, Caitlin. Thank you, Caitlin. Um, so uh we already did Forrest Gump. That was on the list, and we just did that last week. Um Goonies.

SPEAKER_05 15:17

Cool.

SPEAKER_04 15:18

Love Goonies.

SPEAKER_05 15:19

Toonies. Big title. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's great.

SPEAKER_04 15:24

And it takes place in Canada. Yeah, yeah, they use the coins. Yeah. Big Bigger. Starship Troopers.

SPEAKER_05 15:33

Starship Toupers. Toupers. Okay, we know this is not great. The two theme is working really well.

SPEAKER_04 15:39

The thing I didn't say is let's come up with the sequel idea. I just said, what are your thoughts on these things?

SPEAKER_05 15:44

These aren't ideas are just names.

SPEAKER_04 15:48

Um, anything Jim Henson.

SPEAKER_05 15:52

Cool.

SPEAKER_04 15:53

Galaxy Quest. Ella Enchanted. Hmm. I think that would be one that I would have seen for the first time if we did that.

SPEAKER_05 16:01

Yeah, I haven't seen that.

SPEAKER_04 16:02

Uh Surf Ninjas.

SPEAKER_05 16:04

Oh.

SPEAKER_04 16:04

Which is one of those classically bad movies. Yeah. Space Mutiny, which I've never even heard of. I've never heard of that either. Uh any of the D movies, which I think she's a nerd, so.

SPEAKER_05 16:16

Others? Besides the newest one?

SPEAKER_04 16:19

There was the one with uh Wayans and Jeremy Irons. Oh, I don't know that one. Yeah. Pretty bad. Uh Mortal Kombat. Okay. Those are some classics. Street Fighter, yeah. Liar Liar. Liar liar liar. Yeah. Liar cubed. Who framed Roger Rabbit? Two framed Roger Rabbit. Who moged Roger Rabbit? Who mogged Roger Rabbit?

SPEAKER_05 16:45

Oh my god. Who framed moged Roger Rabbit?

SPEAKER_04 16:48

Um, this looks like it's a mist type on my notes app. So I'm guessing it's Jetly, but it says Letly. But I'm guessing any Jetly film. The one, the two, the two. These are really good single titles. Uh Drop Dead Fred. Okay. And the Underworld series. I would love to write a movie in the Underworld series for real. You know?

SPEAKER_05 17:13

If anybody's out there listening, any producers. Yeah. Ready to go.

SPEAKER_03 17:17

These are the Kate Beckinsell ones, right? Yes. Okay, so we gotta get Kate on board.

SPEAKER_04 17:22

There's no reason for you to be doing that, right? I'm looking at the documentation checklist. You're looking at a piece of paper that's on the table. It's forcing you to look down, so you're not on mic right now. I am on mic. No, you're looking down. You're talking away from the microphone, and you're looking at a piece of paper, a random piece of paper, that's on the table. Kate Beckinsale dated.

SPEAKER_03 17:46

Put it down. Put it down. Put it far away from you. Kate Beckinsale was one of the daters of um.

SPEAKER_04 17:54

It's not Glenn Weitzman, is it? Who is it?

SPEAKER_03 17:56

No, no, no. It's it's the guy that dates every like older hot Hollywood woman that was on SNL.

SPEAKER_05 18:03

Oh, uh Colin Joast.

SPEAKER_03 18:05

No, no, no, no, no, the other one. The main one. Um George Wentz's nephew. No! Oh my god! The most famous one. The dated Kim Kardashian. Oh Pete Davidson. Pete Davidson.

SPEAKER_05 18:18

He dated Kate Beckinsale?

SPEAKER_03 18:20

They were seen at a Knicks canoodling in a Knicks game. I don't know how I remember that.

SPEAKER_04 18:24

Well, uh Kate Beckinsale, famous sex freak, married to Len Weitzman, director of The Underworld, and they would just have sex parties all the time. That's so funny. Have you been to one?

SPEAKER_03 18:35

No. Oh my god. I was there. Maybe like four months ago, it was the password was really can't be repeated on this podcast. Lycanthropic. No, no, it's for racist reasons. It can't be repeated.

SPEAKER_05 18:49

Well, depending on who you ask. If you ask a lichen.

SPEAKER_04 18:54

Yeah, the party was really interesting. Um, yeah, yeah. Move that closer if you can. I'll just move closer. Okay. Um, cool. So that's the list of movies. We've got some we've got tons of ideas there. Yeah, thank you, Caitlin, so much. Thank you so much. Um, I want to check in with both of you. Yes. Um, in our last kind of meeting um together of the minds of this kind. Uh, we learned about the voice, um, the great voice that will speak to you, warn you about dangers, that kind of thing. Yes. Um, have any of you been in contact with the voice? Has the voice provided any uh powerful intuition in the last, yes.

SPEAKER_05 19:33

As we were talking about earlier, I don't know if this was being recorded or not, but uh I was thinking about drinking less. And so and the weekend came around and the voice said no. The first sunny day, the first over 50 degree day came, yeah, and the voice said, Go get yourself a damn beer, son. And I did. Another beer.

SPEAKER_03 19:57

Is that what the voice sounds like? It sounds like Stone Cold Steve Austin.

SPEAKER_01 20:01

Go make yourself another beer.

SPEAKER_03 20:05

What? Oh god. Okay. Is that like a kind of voice? Is it that the voice sound like all the time? Is that what the voice sounds like?

SPEAKER_05 20:15

Well, the voice, it's whatever. It sounds like T E.

SPEAKER_03 20:17

At the moment?

SPEAKER_04 20:18

Yeah. At the moment and TE. If the voice wants to get turned up, uh, it sounds a little different.

SPEAKER_05 20:23

Yeah, it sounds like the guys from LMFAO. The uncle, though, not the nephew.

SPEAKER_03 20:30

It's just okay, yeah. So for some reason the LMFAO voice to me is just like an alarm that's going like here we go.

SPEAKER_05 20:37

Um that's what beckons you to drink?

SPEAKER_03 20:40

That's what beckons me to drink. Okay. Beckon sales me to drink and uh guy with a cardboard box on his head.

SPEAKER_04 20:48

Uh Jude, on one of the last episodes, um, this is what I want to start doing is like celebrating little moments, maybe giving out little awards in these cycles. Right. But we came up with a term gumping up. Yeah, getting gumped. Yeah, yeah. That's when you uh fail, but somehow You fail up. Yeah, you fail up. Yeah, yeah. That's or you stumble into success without any sort of knowledge of how it you got there. Fame gumping. Um money gumping. Money gumping. And so I think that that's in addition to being a podcast about sequels. Yep. I do want to make this a podcast about how we can more you know, successfully gump up. You gotta be in the right circles. Like stories of our own gump ups or stories of gump ups throughout history, um, gump ups maybe of the news, but also like um how you know certain kick streamers might tell their followers how to how they can gump maxing, as I think what this podcast is more about.

SPEAKER_03 21:47

Yeah. Okay. Um yeah, I think Twitch streamer, um, kickstreamer, that's a really good example of someone who could gump themselves into a position of political influence. Yeah. Uh politics is prime for gumpcoming. Gumping.

SPEAKER_04 22:02

But I want to give gumping to the masses, and I think that you and I, in our conversations about movies, about sequels, we can also just share um share more positive gump energy. Yeah. Okay. Um so should we do like a historical example or should we do like I think just every episode if something comes up, we highlight it. Uh if you see a news story about a true gumper, you know, bring it in to share. And if you come up with a tip throughout your day where you go, like, oh, this is a good way on how we can bring more gumping into our everyday life, you know, share that with the pod. Yeah, yeah. This is now a lifestyle pod. Yeah. Right.

SPEAKER_05 22:40

Yeah, we're a new thing now.

SPEAKER_03 22:43

Yeah, I would um I would argue that um, you know, Vice President Andrew Johnson um probably gumped his way to the presidency um when Abraham Lincoln was famously shot. Yeah. Um kind of became the president in a in a situation where you wouldn't expect it. Um drunk Taylor from Tennessee eventually rules over this great nation at a at a pivotal turning point, gumping. And also being in the kind of tides of history. Uh it's a good example. Um there's probably better examples of someone who is uh gumped themselves.

SPEAKER_05 23:15

I think um whoever was it Taft? Garfield's vice president. Oh, Garfield, that would be assassinated. Yeah. Like Taft was like not even wanting to be his running mate. They just kind of like pushed him into it. And he was also famously drunk. Yeah. So it was like if you want to gump, you gotta get drunk.

SPEAKER_03 23:40

Yeah, you gotta get drunk. You gotta get drunk if you want to gump. I think gump pretty sober though. Gump a sober character. Oh, Chester Arthur is who you're thinking of. Chester A. Arthur. That is who I'm thinking of. Yes. I forgot.

SPEAKER_05 23:52

I watched the show and I forgot everything about it.

SPEAKER_04 23:55

Um, amazing. I like I said, I think this is more so something to look forward to in the future of the podcast. We don't need to speculate too much on it now. We'll talk about Gump towards the end of this. Uh, the first movie we covered in this cycle with uh my friend comedian Tyler Menz, um, just to get the New Year started, was Friend of the Pod. Friend of the Pod, Jaws. Jaws to this day remains in the top ten grossing shark films of all time.

SPEAKER_05 24:25

I would think it's number one. Is it not number one?

SPEAKER_04 24:27

Uh it was recently replaced as number one.

SPEAKER_05 24:31

Did we get to guess?

SPEAKER_04 24:33

Um, I will tell you right off the start that all four Jaws films are in the top ten highest grossing shark films of all time.

SPEAKER_06 24:42

Wow.

SPEAKER_04 24:42

The list I looked at uh came out in 2019. So while we're thinking about this, discount any of your dangerous animals, your the Meg 2 or your under Paris in this consideration. Um, but not considering the Jaws films, what are the other top 10 highest grossing shark films of all time?

SPEAKER_05 25:06

Deep Blue Sea.

SPEAKER_04 25:07

Deep Blue Sea is correct. Deep Blue Sea on this list comes in at number 5 with 165 million.

SPEAKER_05 25:16

47 meters down.

SPEAKER_04 25:17

47 meters down comes in at number 10 with 44 million. So wow, okay.

SPEAKER_03 25:29

Uh just one of these like um Sharknado movies count. No Sharknadoes on the list. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 25:34

Sharknado didn't get a theatrical release.

SPEAKER_03 25:37

Oh, okay. It didn't get theatrical releases, okay. Oh boy, this is a tough one. This is a real humdinger. All I can think of are, you know, you know, uh pool sharks and um poker sharks. But we're thinking of the real thing.

SPEAKER_05 25:49

We have six already. Jaws one through four, and then those two that's gonna be.

SPEAKER_03 25:53

Yes. The closer, Jude, does not comment on the list.

SPEAKER_04 25:56

The closer, no, uh, the color of money is the Meg 1. The Meg 1 is what replaced Jaws with 530 million.

SPEAKER_05 26:07

Oh, very shocking to me.

SPEAKER_04 26:10

Uh, Chinese uh basically produced film um with Chinese co-star, so international, I think, takes it on that.

SPEAKER_05 26:18

That does make sense. I didn't realize that it was uh produced by a Chinese company.

SPEAKER_04 26:24

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think the second one, the end credits song, is like a famous pop song in Chinese. Oh, really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 26:32

I don't remember. I remember enjoying the second one a lot more than the first one. Yeah. There's I felt not to get too off topic, but I felt like going from the Meg 1 to the Meg 2 was one of the only times that I felt in a sequel that the audience was like really listened to. Because I think the main complaint about the Meg 1 is that there was like not enough shark. Yeah. And then the Meg 2 was like the only shark.

SPEAKER_04 26:59

And octopus. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 27:00

It was all creatures. That's why. And I think that it just really I felt really respected as a member of the movie going public that my complaints were listened to.

SPEAKER_03 27:11

So like you so like Xi Jinping was like, the the people have spoken. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 27:17

Well, they are concerned about the people. It is the people's republic.

SPEAKER_03 27:22

Yeah, the people have spoken and the people of China have decreed that this is the year of the shark.

SPEAKER_05 27:28

There wasn't enough shark.

SPEAKER_03 27:29

There wasn't enough shark. Have you seen the Meg 2 Jude? No.

SPEAKER_04 27:32

Oh great opening just from the start. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 27:35

There's like dinosaurs.

SPEAKER_04 27:37

Oh, lots of different um b creatures. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 27:39

They said you wanted shark. Well, we're giving you shark plus.

SPEAKER_04 27:42

Okay, great. Yeah, the first act of the movie takes place on an underwater um like ocean station. Oh, that is like a sea lab. Yeah, like a sea lab that is actively being attacked by like three Megs right off the jump.

SPEAKER_05 27:58

Yeah. So you get three big sharks right away.

SPEAKER_03 28:00

That well, there's there's two things I respect. It's the Communist Party of China and sharks. So I I can't I can't miss it. Um did you guys know that apparently now a lot of jobs in LA because of like um I don't know. It's very hard to like produce a union set in in LA right now, apparently. So a lot of the companies that are paying for short form content are Chinese companies doing these like mini soap operas meant for the verticals? Yes, and the verticals are like keeping the film industry alive in Hollywood. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. TikTok. Yeah, yeah. You'll scroll through and it'll be like, my wife, the angel sparrow.

SPEAKER_05 28:38

Yeah. And it's always like part 56.

SPEAKER_03 28:40

And it's like kind of porn a little bit sometimes.

SPEAKER_04 28:43

Well, the werewolf ones are definitely pornographic in nature or erotic. Yeah. Oh, it's always like my alpha boss, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Of the moonlight. How do you get onto these? I gotta start mobs. Uh well, you have to be non-union for sure, right off the top. Okay, good. Check one. Let's go. Do you have to be Chinese? Um, no. Okay. Definitely not. Well, I can be Chinese if I have to. You've been really Chinese obsessed these last couple episodes. I just been having he's been having dreams about uh competing against Chinese people in circle-drawing competitions. Every time.

SPEAKER_03 29:18

Oh, every time I win.

SPEAKER_05 29:21

Well, that is a dream.

SPEAKER_03 29:22

No, in the last episode I explained.

SPEAKER_00 29:23

So Jordan Every time I win.

SPEAKER_03 29:25

So basically, Jordan explained this dream that he had that was like meaningful and deep. And I explained that the dream I had last night was that I I was doing a competition where I was like trying to keep this like pen in a line and like stay within the lines, and it was a competition I lost to Chinese people. That was my dream. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04 29:44

I'm glad you recapped it again. Yeah, just in case the audience missed it. Literally the last episode. Um, I'm losing, right? Think of a shark movie.

SPEAKER_05 29:58

You are losing. I got another one for you.

SPEAKER_04 30:00

Think of one shark movie. I'll let him out. 47 meters down or the mags. Street sharks, the think of a real I said deep blue C already, right? You said Deep Blue C, yes.

SPEAKER_05 30:13

There really aren't that many that were like box office successful in any way. What about can I guess another one? Yeah. I'm pummeling the dude right now. Yes. What about Shark Knight? Shark Knight does not appear on the I thought that was gonna be a little bit more.

SPEAKER_03 30:28

You can think of Jed, think of it like a prestige shark film. Prestige Shark film? It jaws.

SPEAKER_05 30:35

What's that fucking movie with Blake Lively? The Reef? Close. Okay. Did we already say the name?

SPEAKER_03 30:47

Yeah. Okay, we Blue Crush is a surfing movie, right? Oh my god. Am I wrong? There are no shark in Blue Crush. There could have been a shark. You just don't see them. They're underwater.

SPEAKER_01 31:01

Yeah, ooh, ooh.

SPEAKER_03 31:04

No, it's not called the Reef. Okay, are the is the shark uh can you give me a hint? Is the shark a hero or is the shark a villain? Or is the shark a side character like a buddy?

SPEAKER_04 31:14

They're just about sharks, shark attacks.

SPEAKER_05 31:17

Yeah, shark attack.

SPEAKER_04 31:18

It's not like shark tail is gonna be on this list. That's a great guess.

SPEAKER_03 31:22

I would have fucking thought of that, I would have been over the moon. Is it like a 127 hours movie, but it's like shark? Yes. Fuck me. Okay, really? Yes.

SPEAKER_05 31:32

Oh, oh, oh, open water. Fuck you.

SPEAKER_03 31:35

Fuck you. That is exactly what it is. No, you can't give it to me. Don't give me anything. No, because I knew I remembered there was like a, you know, out in the shark.

SPEAKER_05 31:47

I'm so disappointed with myself for not getting that one.

SPEAKER_04 31:49

Open water number eight fifty-five million. Who is in that? Alex, the one you are thinking of is the shallows. That's number six at 119 million. And Sharktail is on the list at number three with 360.

SPEAKER_03 32:03

Oh, million. So you did do it. When you said the shallow, all I thought was I love you, Lady Gaga. So we got all the.

SPEAKER_04 32:10

Hey, turn, turn to the side so I can see that schnazz. I can see that snow. You know what?

SPEAKER_01 32:16

You're ugly. But I like your kind of ugly. I love your kind of ugly, Lady Gaga.

SPEAKER_03 32:23

Okay. Dude. That's all I could do. After I saw Starsborn, I for a week I just kept saying, I love you, Lady Gaga. Jackson May.

SPEAKER_05 32:33

Famous line from the movie.

SPEAKER_03 32:34

Dude, fucking saw um what is his name? He's like my favorite musician. I this is how bad I am. Jason Isbell, who wrote one of the songs from Stars Born, didn't know it, and he performed it. Crazy. I lost my mind. I'm just kidding. He didn't.

SPEAKER_05 32:50

What part were you kidding about? The whole story? No, no, no.

SPEAKER_03 32:52

He's he wrote that song. It's like, sound all things die. His voice doesn't sound like that, but in my head, the whole movie, he's like. He's like fucking Sling Blade the whole time.

SPEAKER_04 33:04

Yeah, and especially when he gets like real alcoholic. He like pisses his pants. Dude, when he pisses his pants, that's good. There's no sharks in that. No, I I don't even know how we got onto this topic. I was just detasing you. Number two was um, okay, so the whole list is goddamn. Um, photos. I like that game. You know what I don't like about them? Meg, Jaws, Sharktail, Jaws 2, Deep Blue Sea, The Shallows, Jaws 3D, Open Water, Jaws for the Revenge, 47 meters down.

SPEAKER_03 33:35

I just don't like that the qualifications for like highest grossing because like what about the quality of the movie, and what about the people involved, and what about the love and care that was put into making it?

SPEAKER_04 33:43

Well, then you could look at like a watch mojo top 10 shark movies of all time, if that's what you give a shit about. I don't want to fucking watch Mojo. Watch Mojo, Mojo Jojo. Alright, um, so um then I wanted, you know, what you're saying, Jude, is that what you felt there is like it's all monetary, it's all about the the great uh great American dollar um or the great Chinese yen. Yuan! Yuan. Oh my god, you guys know nothing about China. It's actually disturbing. That's fine. Um the great Chinese Yuan. Um, but so I wanted to get to more of a personal, more human experience. Yeah. Okay. So let's do it. I love your pants. Put it in my mouth. I looked up reviews for uh the totally josome tour in Martha's Vineyard on TripAdvisor. Oh. Um, and uh, you know, a lot of people just kind of like pretty milk toast uh five-star reviews.

SPEAKER_03 34:40

Um, but we did get a two-star review. Is it from Barack Hussein Obama? Why would it be? Because he lives on Martha's Vineyard. Okay. I don't know. I was just it could be. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 34:50

Um, this is from Russell L, uh, and the review is called 5050. Um, it starts off why I'm grading it like this is because I dealed with two people with this tour company. One was great and the other was not. Oh. Um, he talks about tour guy Jeff. Jeff actually gets brought up quite a bit in these reviews because Jeff is an actor in the Jaws film. He played Alex in Jaws. That's you. Are either of you familiar with Alex?

SPEAKER_05 35:17

The little boy that gets killed?

SPEAKER_04 35:19

Yeah, probably.

SPEAKER_05 35:20

Yeah, that's the boy that he gets eaten.

SPEAKER_04 35:22

Um the biggest complaint about this tour is that when Alex runs the um tours, um, he's great, but at the end he will sign uh eight by ten photos of him, but he charges twenty-five dollars a piece.

SPEAKER_05 35:38

I don't think that that is that's fine to me. Yeah. A little side hustle. Does he own the business as well?

SPEAKER_04 35:46

He I mean he might just work for it, um, but it seems like he is now closely connected with it. I have a question. Yeah. If they were$15, would it be a problem? I think most people are concerned because they paid$150 for like an hour or a two-hour tour.

SPEAKER_03 36:03

Yeah. Does he like personalize it? Does he like, hey, hey Rich, I really felt the connection with you during this tour. He writes a whole letter. Like he wrote a lot on the back.$25 is a little expensive for For like something you put on like a pizza place in like a small town. Not even, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 36:19

Oh, it's not even black and white? No, I'm saying a pizza place, you're at least getting a photo of the current actor with like eating your pizza or standing next to the owner. This is like a headshot, or maybe like a photo of him as a kid, or a headshot of him as a kid, or a photo of him like running on the beach, maybe.

SPEAKER_03 36:37

Maybe they're I think they're upset because the picture's probably him now and not be crazy. Yeah, so the people are like, who the fuck is this? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 36:44

We're talking about I think but what I just want to say to the like to the deli or the diner photo is like those are cool as hell. If you're getting like a headshot that's like Jason Alexander pancakes in town. Absolutely. That's so cool. I would open a whole restaurant based off of that shit. I was in this tiny little lower east side deli called like Sunny and Planet Hollywood. Sunny and Adams or something. I'll I'll remember. Sonny and Allen's, maybe. Uh tiny little deli, but just like stuffed to the brim with things. Their sandwich menu is crazy. They have a sandwich called the Kamala, and then they have a sandwich called the Kamala 2. Um, and they don't seem to be very related. They have the Obama, they have the Drumpf. Remember the Drumpf?

SPEAKER_03 37:31

Oh, yeah, of um John Oliver fame.

SPEAKER_04 37:33

They have a vegan sandwich that's called the Bernie Sanders. Do they have a sandwich called the Kabbalah? Yeah. Good. Um, I was like, this place is great. And then as I was leaving, just over the thing, they had all these fucking like good celebrities taking photos in that deli.

SPEAKER_05 37:51

Would you rather see in a situation like that, a restaurant with a lot of photographs? Would you rather see a lot of good celebrities or a lot of like mid-tier?

SPEAKER_04 37:59

Mid, definitely. I would rather see the mid-tier, but it's cool to see the good ones. It is cool.

SPEAKER_05 38:04

I think maybe the I think I would maybe trust the food more with the mid-tier one.

SPEAKER_03 38:09

My question for you guys is what is the exact celebrity where you draw the line where it's like, okay, this is okay that you put a picture of this person on the wall, or it's not okay. Like, what is that tier for you?

SPEAKER_05 38:20

What do you mean? Like in terms of like who they are as a person or in terms of their fame.

SPEAKER_03 38:24

In terms of their fame.

SPEAKER_05 38:26

Oh. I text to think mine would I have one that immediately like uh like a s like the voice spoke to me. Okay, okay. And it actually checks for both. That's what I was gonna say too. Yeah. Who is yours? Can we say it on three? Sure. One, two, three, Gary. Kevin Sarbo. Oh pretty similar.

SPEAKER_03 38:45

Kevin Sarbo and Gary Busey. Oh, Gary Busey. Okay. Alright. Gary Busey. It seems almost too recognizable. Like it he's famous. He's super famous, and he's crazy looking. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 38:58

So you would get the photo. Um, I would be more impressed with a like young Gary Busey, because still just as crazy, but not as noticeable.

SPEAKER_03 39:08

Yeah. I would do I would own a sandwich restaurant that only had two, and it would be uh Dylan McDermott and Dermot Mulroney. Yeah. Um and those would be the only celebrity photos that there would be. Um The Practice Meets.

SPEAKER_04 39:29

The season one of Um Horror House. Yeah, we're still talking about Dylan McDermott. What is Dylan Mulroney in? So we can say like the practice makes perfect or something.

SPEAKER_03 39:40

I I have no idea. Honestly, I can't think of one thing that Dylan Mulroney is in. Because I confuse him with Dylan McDermott. I'm glad you can think of a celebrity's name when you have absolutely nothing of value to say about it.

SPEAKER_04 39:52

I forgot about the name, bro. This is uh You're like, oh, fucking um word association is super valuable. Oh my god, d Dylan. I almost called you Dylan. You could be a Dylan. Oh yeah, he's not in anything good. My best friend's wedding is probably the most recognizable thing.

SPEAKER_03 40:13

Oh, he's in the Family Stone. You ever seen the Family Stone? You get together with the family, watch the Family Stone.

SPEAKER_04 40:18

No.

SPEAKER_03 40:18

It's fine.

SPEAKER_04 40:19

Alright, so Alex is uh selling uh 8x10 photos. Um, but the real catch was with a woman named Dee Dee. She was the one I spoke to and scheduled the tour with on the phone. At first she was a very nice person and she worked with me, but the thing was over the time of scheduling. She told me they only scheduled by the hour and not by a base standard price. So to make sure that me and my friend could afford it, we asked for just a one-hour tour, which was$75. Oh, she has billable hours? Was she a fucking layer?

SPEAKER_03 40:54

I got trapped. Yeah, she's like, and this is where the shark.

SPEAKER_04 41:01

Oh, two hours. But then the day got closer, she said she must have made a mistake or something, and that they don't charge by the hour, they only charge a flat rate with no time limit, which would be$150 each. More money. But the worst part was when our tour was getting close to the end, Jeff got a call from Didi on the phone, which was on a loudspeaker. Me and my friend could both hear Didi clearly, and she responded with a very disrespectful comment when Jeff was telling her we're wrapping up the tour in just a little bit. She said something very disrespectful by the way of, these guys only paid for an hour, so their tour is over. Drop off the bus and bring me the car. Or drop off drop off the drop them off and bring me the car. My friend and I looked at each other as if she was a two-faced, which she was. The first she first says they charge by the hour, then makes us pay a flat rate with no time limit for t twice as much, but then saying that she wants the car back after an hour, thank God Didi wasn't our tour guide. So let me wrap it up. Jeff was a great tour guide, but avoid Didi if you can. I wouldn't trust her. And this is my message for Didi. I know you're gonna respond to this in your defense to make me look like the victim and not you. Which is he should have said that the other way. But at the end of the day, I hope the other fans reading this understand my point about you. If you could have just listened to yourself and how you sounded on the phone that day.

SPEAKER_05 42:36

Wow. Some very intense stuff.

SPEAKER_03 42:40

I was really hoping that she would have said something a lot more offensive, like, I'm dropping these two, you know, morons or like something about like the fat guy. The fat guy's that only paid for an hour. Yeah, I'd like to see them swim back. She called back, called them out personally. That'd have been cool. Yeah, no, but it's not yeah. Oh these guys, man. Um so she said it was by the hour, but then it was a flat rate, she just changed her mind. Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 43:06

Which already red flag's on red flag. Yeah, you can't just be changing. You can't sell something and then change the price after they've already committed. Didi did respond on TripAdvice. Oh, good. And she says, LOL. Wow, that was a lot. Are you okay? Owned.

SPEAKER_05 43:23

Is Didi a Zoomer? Um I was imagining this to be an older woman.

SPEAKER_04 43:28

Yeah, it just says the first response is OP. None of this makes any sense. Reread what you wrote and then read it again. You can't get a free ride. I've had some of the best scammers, and you're not up there with them. Have a blessed day. Smiley face.

SPEAKER_05 43:45

Very confusing messaging from Didi in terms of just like getting a sense of who who she is, what she's about.

SPEAKER_04 43:51

Well, she's somebody who's dealt with a lot of scammers.

SPEAKER_05 43:53

That's that is part of the lore that's been built is she's dealt with some of the best scammers.

SPEAKER_03 43:58

I've been trying to scam. The Jaws tore for years. It's my last ride.

SPEAKER_04 44:03

You look up Didi, and she was like in the department of like Nash. She was like in the like um IRS when Ponzi scheme, like she took down Ponzi and She took down Bernie Madoff himself.

SPEAKER_03 44:17

And then she she was like the character, uh, she was like Al Pacino's character in heat trying to chase down the other like tour guide scammer. It's going back for one last scam. How do you even scam a tour guide? You gotta pay them up front, right? Yeah, well how are they not paying up front, right?

SPEAKER_04 44:35

They did pay up front. I'm guessing that they maybe asked for a refund or something, but you know, she's just coming to the defense calling them scammers. That's a classic technique to discredit somebody, is just call them by a name.

SPEAKER_03 44:48

Yeah, or she's upset that Alex has his$25 photos and she's gotta like raise her averages. Yeah, there's probably some resentment there from that. I agree with that.

SPEAKER_05 44:59

Yeah, you think the photo money is going straight to Alex?

SPEAKER_04 45:02

Yeah. Like you we said, that's clearly a side hustle.

SPEAKER_05 45:06

Yeah. And a well-deserved one.

SPEAKER_04 45:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 45:09

Although the the price is a little bit much. Considering that this is a film podcast, and only one of the three of us even knew who the character of Alex was in the movie.

SPEAKER_04 45:22

Are any of us I would not I would say I'm a big fan of Jaws. I would not say I'm a Jaws super fan, though.

SPEAKER_05 45:28

I would agree with that. I'm similar.

SPEAKER_04 45:30

I'm a person who has seen Jaws. Yeah. So then, you know, I think a lot of the people taking this to are like Jaws super fans.

SPEAKER_05 45:38

Yeah. So they're gonna know Alex.

SPEAKER_04 45:40

They're gonna they're gonna know Alex. Yeah. They're probably gonna have seen every movie Alex has been in.

SPEAKER_03 45:44

Well, Didi could make like a Jeff, sorry. Yeah, Didi could make like a uh a burned mixtape that like people would sell on the streets in like 2003. Yeah. Yeah, it had like that big like chrome lettering.

SPEAKER_04 45:56

That's you know, he sent a message to Didi, and I think that we can also send a message to Didi, and it's like, Didi, you don't need to have been in Jaws to kind of like take advantage of the position you're in. Find what makes you special, find what makes you unique, and maybe attribute that to Jaws.

SPEAKER_05 46:14

Well, I think we've found her ab her ability to deal with scammers. That's true. Her knowledge of scamming. I don't know if she does she know so much because she has combated scammers or because she is she is one. She ran with the scammers. Did she prosecute Bernie Madoff or did she work at Enron?

SPEAKER_04 46:35

Hold on one second. They're coming for the scammers, yeah. Yeah, they're coming for me. They finally come to the city. If it's one of the old people on my fucking street that is dying and it just suits out of time.

SPEAKER_03 46:56

Okay. You're not in any rush, are you? No. Well, they're also old. It's like when old people call an ambulance, it's an old person EMT. You know what people want on tours is to cut to the shit. They don't want like information. They want to see a shark, right?

SPEAKER_05 47:14

No filler.

SPEAKER_03 47:14

No filler. So right, so DD should show them a shark.

SPEAKER_04 47:18

Imagine going to Martha's Vineyard and being like, I expect to see a shark in these waters. Yeah, probably a Jaws super fan would, you know? So like A Jaws Superfan would know that the crazy thing about Jaws is that there was a shark in those waters.

SPEAKER_03 47:32

Yeah, well, you know, they would separate, yeah, they couldn't be able to separate reality from fiction. Here's what I would do. If I could run a ghost tour, I would take people to those like above-ground mausoleums and I would open one.

SPEAKER_06 47:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 47:48

See what's inside. What does that shit look like? That's scary. It's like died 1988. You open one of those things. What does that look like? An embalmed corpse that's been in there since the 80s? That's scary. I'm saying I'd open that.

SPEAKER_05 48:04

Good. Just grave, you're doing a grave robbing.

SPEAKER_03 48:07

It's not a robber to show it.

SPEAKER_01 48:10

Seriously, though, I'd do some rotten.com shit because everyone would be like, oh, oh, we want the legend of the roaming ghost.

SPEAKER_03 48:17

I'd be like, no, you want to see a dead body from the 80s that's been in there. You want to see something crazy?

SPEAKER_05 48:23

I think there's probably some people to get around some of the the legal issues with breaking into mausoleums. I think there's some people that would willingly offer up their loved ones' uh graves, the piece of the grave.

SPEAKER_03 48:39

You're just supporting my argument.

SPEAKER_04 48:40

Yeah, I would just own the mausoleum. Yeah, dude, this doesn't this whole thing doesn't have to be an argument. It doesn't have to be combative. He's supporting you in this moment.

SPEAKER_03 48:48

No, I know, I know. Yeah. But like, you should be able to, like, I would like to see what Nona looks like right now.

SPEAKER_05 48:58

Your own?

SPEAKER_04 48:59

Yeah. Why don't you put like a live stream webcam in your coffin?

SPEAKER_03 49:06

Now that would be a wild stream. It's just like on Twitch and it's like counting down. Yeah, just a dead person decomposing over many years. Thank you. Thank you, uh Dog Shit 469. Gifting two subs. Yes. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 49:22

Just your grandma's decomposing corpse.

SPEAKER_04 49:25

Yeah. You gotta we gotta start monetizing shit like that. Monetize the dead.

SPEAKER_05 49:30

Monetizing the dead.

SPEAKER_04 49:31

Oh, the Democratic Party has been doing it for the last 50 years. Oh, zing. Um and then I wanted to get down, I was like, okay, these two people seem like they want to fight each other. That feels pretty human, right? Yeah, but they're still disconnected by a phone call and by the internet right now. What would happen, mono e mono, or possibly mono e sharko? I went to Quora.com and I looked up could a human beat a great white shark in a fight? A lot of responses came back with depends on what kind of shark it is, and it says in the fucking title, Great White Shark.

SPEAKER_05 50:11

I'm gonna say, if I may throw my hat into the ring, there's a lot of environmental factors. And there was a show that I can't remember the name of, but it was they would simulate like two animals fighting. I think it was called Animal Fight Night.

SPEAKER_04 50:27

Yeah, and there was also like the most most dangerous animal or deadliest animal.

SPEAKER_05 50:32

Yeah. Either way, on whatever show it was, they would often have semi-aquatic and aquatic animals, and one of the big conceits and funny things of the show is that every fight would be in three and a half feet of water.

SPEAKER_03 50:46

So Oh, that's like the venue. Okay. Because that's what I thought Jordan was gonna say. Most people said depends on the venue.

SPEAKER_04 50:52

Well, that is another one, but I thought it was like too stupid because a lot of people were like, if it was on land, I definitely could. Yeah, it's a stupid answer.

SPEAKER_03 51:01

Yeah. But three and a half feet of water is great. Uh, the only person that I could think that wouldn't survive that is probably a toddler.

SPEAKER_05 51:07

Um is this with no tools?

SPEAKER_04 51:10

Um, it does not say no tools.

SPEAKER_05 51:13

Alright.

SPEAKER_04 51:14

Well, do you wear boxing gloves? What is it? Like, I'm picturing like ding-ding-ding. It says in a fight. So that's literally what we're saying is like, I guess you can have tools. Fight though, in my regard, the doesn't include like a semi- yeah, like a semi-automatic pistol or anything. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 51:33

If it was on land, you could just wait.

SPEAKER_04 51:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 51:36

So that's easy.

SPEAKER_04 51:37

I'm gonna read you guys the first response from Thomas. Don't ask. And you'll really get a uh a sense of Thomas by the end of this. First off, his uh occupation, which you always list on Quora. Um you do. Um, and a lot of the people in the gang stalking community are former or whatever they were.

SPEAKER_05 51:57

Call back to the gang stalking community.

SPEAKER_04 51:59

Yeah, so it'll say like former director of operations at whenever it's somebody in the gang stalking community. Um, but Thomas is a current rooftop dweller.

SPEAKER_05 52:09

Oh. Okay. Is he Batman? Possibly.

SPEAKER_04 52:13

Thomas Wayne. Yeah. Depends if the human is calm, can see it coming, and can punch the shark with uh and can punch with the force a shark bites. I crossed paths with a forty-five foot Great Wyke on with a forty-five foot great white on the great barrier reef. I was on my honeymoon when the beast bit my husband's legs off at the waist. My lover bled out and I was floating like a cork in the brine and was floating like a cork in the brine with his eyes wide open. When the shark suddenly turned around to finish him off, I was ready. The shark swam into a straight right hand punch that reverberated through its fin, short circuiting its sonar. It stopped moving immediately, leaving me time to roll it on its back. After a few minutes it sank to the bottom. I stuffed my husband under the real I stuffed my husband under the reef real tight. It's what he would have wanted. I was in the local paper, but most Australians have killed bigger sharks than mine. It was no big deal. I got a refund on my husband's unused plane ticket and flew home a widower. And flew home a widower.

SPEAKER_05 53:23

Okay. That was insane. Uh is this like un is that supposed to be a joke or we don't know. I guess we have to see some of his other reviews or answers. I'll look into Thomas maybe for next time, but just the idea of a 45-foot great white shark immediately stopped me in my tracks.

SPEAKER_04 53:43

Well, honestly, it's not that big of a deal. Most Australians have killed bigger than spiders are probably 50 feet.

SPEAKER_03 53:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 53:51

The f the floating like a cork was really poetic.

SPEAKER_03 53:57

I think my favorite was just the way, I don't know if it was like the flourish that Jordan put on the end, but it's like and flew home a widower, you know? It's like he wanted to do it. Yeah. Finally, the fucker died.

SPEAKER_04 54:09

And he got the refund on his husband's unused point ticket. That's what we were all wondering.

SPEAKER_03 54:13

Yeah, customer service was like, oh, oh, you're the shark. You're the shark widower. Yeah, he shows him his name in the paper. Look at what happened.

SPEAKER_05 54:20

And also the shark killer.

SPEAKER_03 54:23

Um, do we believe him? Not at not for a second. Okay. No. And it also you said it's a gang stalking Quora? No. No. Oh, oh. No, just most of Quora is gangstalking. I thought it was like a section on shark uh gang stalking.

SPEAKER_04 54:41

Um so if you do believe Thomas, you must uh assume that he was trained by the best. That he was uh, you know, that if he can punch a shark in the nose so hard that the the reverberations go back to their fin and short circuit their sonar. You know, he does have like Batman level combat techniques. Um and I think he might have been trained by Sean, who posted this. Sean is a park ranger. One in a million chance, not even for an expert. No guns, knives, explosives or any kind, just a human and a great white. First, your balls would have to be about five pounds each of solid iron. That's a metaphor. Oh, okay. I was like, you'd sink if you'd like. I'm assuming. You would have to train and practice from a cage for a while and get used to not being scared of a charging great white. Once you feel comfortable around the fast, agile fish, put on a Kevlar plated sharksuit and try to open water swim with it. Practice dodging when the shark swims up to you. When you feel comfortable with your dodge technique, then you then you can proceed.

SPEAKER_03 55:54

Now you need technique and a plan. Not just dodge technique, but other technique. So this guy's like dividing into like belts. Like that's your orange belt.

SPEAKER_05 56:03

I'm glad after Thomas was it Thomas? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 56:05

Yeah, Thomas provides this larger than less than.

SPEAKER_05 56:08

After Thomas, I'm glad someone's taking the question seriously. Yeah, let me break this down. This isn't a joke.

SPEAKER_04 56:14

So punching the nose might work to scare it off, but by no means is that a win. Poking its eyes will probably just piss it off. So if you want to win in a fight with a great white, this is what you do. Humans in bathing suit versus great white shark, you are underwater with a masked snorkel, you notice a great white 50 meters away coming in, it's deciding if you are on the menu or not. This is when you need to act. The shark is starting to build adrenaline, but still acting quite docile. Go up for air, keep your eye on the shark, get a couple deep breaths, then move in to greet the shark. When it is five meters away, start your plan. As he approaches carefully, grab its nose while dodging to the side, swing your legs up to where one leg is on the dorsal fin and the other is on the pectoral, then twist the shark upside down into tonic immobility. Make sure to keep pulling back on the nose while underneath the shark until he goes lifeless. Then just hold it in that position, and there you have it. About fifteen minutes to chew through its skin and then bi and then disembowel it. Good luck.

SPEAKER_05 57:19

Listen, he's not wrong. And I like that he considered because when I'm thinking about that, I'm thinking the shark is coming at me as soon as this experiment starts. But I like that he's like it might not, it's still a it's a beast, it might not want to kill you right away. Right. And you have the upper hand of knowledge and insight as a human being.

SPEAKER_04 57:45

Perhaps two fighters in the ring circling around each other, sizing each other up, you know?

SPEAKER_03 57:51

So during the time where you were talking, I was imagining, because it says he's a park ranger, I was imagining that he's like a park ranger in like a completely landlocked state, and he's just like typing on a computer, and there's like an enormous fire behind him that's like consuming the lives of like campers, and he's just spending all this time just tapping up.

SPEAKER_04 58:09

I think it's yeah, and he's probably trained most of his life to open hand fight to to like fist fight bears. Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 58:18

And he's just dreamed of the scenario in which you could use that against a shark. Finally, he could get the shark, and like he's the one that went out and actually did fight a bear, you know? So he's like, oh, I've I've already had that prey, I'm on to the next. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 58:32

He's been yes, he's been like in his basement, he's built a pool where he stimulates this.

SPEAKER_03 58:38

And there's just a giant picture of like Yogi Bear just X through it. Yeah. So X through his head.

SPEAKER_04 58:43

And there's all the wild large beasts that he has slayed with his bare hands like stuffed in his home. Yes, yes. And now he's like, I've conquered land now on to sea. Now on to sea. Yes. The next frontier. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so that's Sean. Do we have anything else uh to think about Jaws, any other Jaws commentary?

SPEAKER_05 59:04

I just can't believe that the tour is$150. I don't know like what there is to see. Really? Like it's just like a Martha's Vineyard tour, probably. Yeah. There may be some shooting locations, but there's not like well, I don't know. Maybe there is some stuff memorializing Jaws.

SPEAKER_03 59:21

Is that where like uh Chap Aquitic is, like where Ted Kennedy like crashed the car and let the lady die? Is that Martha's Vineyard? Um, I'm not sure. Maybe they'll like take you there too. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 59:34

Just on it. Yeah, you want to see some like weird Kennedy shit? Yeah. It's gonna be another 50 bucks.

SPEAKER_04 59:41

Um so um with that uh kind of closed up, we'll close uh the folder on Jaws for now. We'll move on to our next film of the series, which was Airbud. Airbud, one of my favorite uh episodes series that we've done so far. Um I think it was in editing it that I realized that so much of the lore of this show that we've built up happened in that episode, and we recorded the first part of it relatively early, so then we would start to reference things that we said in it.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:12

Is that where the key effect comes from?

SPEAKER_04 1:00:14

Um that is not where the key effect is, it's where the Jim Henson hate comes in. Yes, but we had mentioned Jim Henson hate on like at least four other episodes before Airbudge came out.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:24

Yes, so people are able to like uh look at the origin of our verbal ticks.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:28

Yes, it's like a it's like a reverse Rosetta stone for the podcast. Um, but I just want to talk a little bit about sports. Uh Bad Bunny recently performed at the Super Bowl. He's an animal performing in sports. Yep. Um his uh they recently said he was just under Kendrick Lamar in the number of views uh that he got during his performance. Um, but with international views, he got over four billion views worldwide for his performance.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:57

That's a lot.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:58

It's an insane amount. It's about half the world population watched that performance. Largest uh largest performance that uh Super Bowl has seen. The Super Bowl in general took a dip in terms of viewership, but the Puppy Bowl ratings were the highest they've been in ten years. Which I think speaks to the pusification of America.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:23

I think the puppy bowl got more viewers than the the turning point alternate halftime.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:29

I saw T Pusa? T Pusa. Tipusa. T Pusa.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:33

And I think a lot of the viewers for that were bots anyway. Or just like people on the left watching it to Yeah, on like Twitch streams, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:40

Yeah. Um what do we feel about the pusification of America? Do we have anything to say about that?

SPEAKER_05 1:01:48

I feel good about it. Okay, cool.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:50

Chill. Maybe they should change the Super Bowl to something like the Department of War or something. Like the Well, they already have one of those. Yeah. Yeah, but I'm saying like they're like, you know, they say something uh based or cool, like strap yourselves in because you're about to get infuckerated. You know, because that's what they would say before you're gonna see something like masculine.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:13

Yeah, but they would say, like, you're about to get effed up, you know. That's what our current administration would say. Something cool like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, the puppy bowl, much like all major sports, has gone woke. However, no. Oh, the puppy bowl? Yeah, there were 15 special needs puppies competing this year in the puppy bowl. So DEI has reached. How many puppies do they have? And they're all different types of puppies, too, so tons of diversity. How many different puppies? I think like 30, maybe. Wow. So over or half of them uh special needs puppies. Um, Boba was the MVP, most valuable pup of um the puppy bowl. Here's a picture of Boba. People should look him up. We'll post him on our Instagram. Cute pup from St. Louis, Missouri.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:07

Cool. What uh do you know how they qualify that or probably like chat room internet stuff?

SPEAKER_04 1:03:14

Yeah. Um do we love Boba?

SPEAKER_03 1:03:19

Yes. I love Boba. Uh Jordan, yeah. Would do you think, and this is a bit of a change of subject, we can go right back to the puppy bowl. Okay. Do you think that uh the X-Men would be considered DEI in today's environment? What do you mean? Like, would the X-Men get you know uh a tr uh government incentives for being uh having special special needs?

SPEAKER_04 1:03:47

Oh, I see. Like, would the Xavier's Institute be given government funding for um I think so, yeah, of course. I think that they and that's big a big part of uh X-Men is that you see government agencies that are like pushing back against that, and you know, they're constantly fighting with more regressive uh mentalities about um you know.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:11

Yeah, I think that would be very controversial. I think if the X-Men were real, that would be kind of like the uh the narrative, like should X-Men compete in Olympic sports, uh Title IX stuff? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:23

Um the show Wonderman, the new Marvel show on Disney, um, there's already kind of like fun lore in that special powered human beings aren't allowed to like act on film. Uh they're not allowed to like be on film sets and stuff. Is it because of union union rules, sir? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I can see that. Um so what we had, like I like I kind of warned the world about in that Airbud situation, is the Super Bowl is being replaced by an all-dog sporting event. Yeah. Not even humans in it anymore.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:04

Yeah, people don't want to watch good old-fashioned American football. That's right. Concussion protocol. It's because of all that, all that bold crap.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:13

Yep, that's right.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:14

Let them let the boys play.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:15

Let the boys play. Um, that makes me uh so I think we need to get back to, you know, one dog, many people. Let's bring back Airbud. In fact, they are bringing back Airbud. Airbud Returns is currently casting.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:30

Well, that would be a great opportunity for marketing. I think Airbud and the Puppy Bowl could kind of do some kind of, you know, I don't know, collaboration to actually give Because I'm familiar there's no really rules to the puppy bowl. They just kind of like chase a ball around or something. Um I think they chase the ball around, but I think if they get it past like the end of the thing. It's the conventional rules of football. Okay. Well, then they should have like personalities like players. Like they should be like, okay, well, this dog has some like off the field issues.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:01

He's not using the PP pad.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:03

He bit its owner. You know, he's not using the PP pad. Um he doesn't get along well with his teammates.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:09

Because of CT. CT. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:12

I think that would add Chewing toy something. Energy.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:16

Toy energy, yeah. Um Airbutt is coming back. I do like this idea though, is um maybe we start slowly and in the puppy bowl we just start introducing one human because there's no rules that say a human can't play in puppy bowl. Yep. And then you just see an adult man playing football against them.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:37

It's like a reverse airbutt. Yeah. And he's tackling the puppies. Yeah. We could also, here's the thought. And it's again going what you were saying about the pussification of America. Fighting back fighting back against it.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:52

Yes, yes, that's what we need to talk about.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:53

Instead of the puppy bowl, that's like, you know, watching pee-wee football. And you want to watch professional football, not kids playing. You want to watch adults. Yeah. So dog fighting. Yes. Full send adult dog puppy bowl. No longer the puppy bowl, just the dog bowl. And they they just are nasty, aggressive, fighting dogs.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:20

I would love to see what Thomas or Sean from Quora could do in a ring against some of the nastiest dogs on Earth.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:27

Yeah, they probably have a lot of opinions about it. You know, and honestly, too, if you think about it like bird's eye view, right? Why is the Super Bowl probably not viewed? That is a very convoluted sport with tons of rules that are like probably the most complicated of like any any sport. And they're changing yearly. Every year it changes. Um, or even like rugby or something, it would probably be easier to understand. So like that would cut out the bullshit if it was just dog fight.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:58

Yeah. Yeah. Michael Vick would still be able to participate.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:01

Yeah, he'd be the chairman.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:03

Yeah, exactly. I did the um Budumch's, you know, cheap joke thing.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:06

And he would be more beloved than George Lopez. No. Who's the commissioner of football? Roger Goodell. Roger. He would and he would still be more liked than Roger Goodell. Um, so the original creator of Airbud, Devin Kevin DeCicho, who we talked a little bit about. And in that episode, I said I'll come back to that, and I never did. So I want to come back to it now. Kevin De Chicyo, Chicho, um found he like found a homeless uh buddy on the street and um developed his talent to make baskets, to do hot dunks and make baskets, and then was featured on like shows and like Good Morning America on stupid pet tricks, all that kind of thing. And then he was like, Let's make a movie about a basketball-playing dog. Um, he is credited on I think like 11 of the films in the 25 film series or whatever. Um, but he says he never really made all that much money off of the series, even though he's credited on almost all of them as like the creator based on an idea by whatever. Um he is currently uh at least most news reports that I say um struggling with homelessness uh and uh chronic lung condition uh in uh I believe San Fran. Let me just quick look at this. Um he is in San Diego, yes. Currently struggling in San Diego. He says the chronic lung condition is because of all the medical marijuana that he's smoked over his life.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:55

Um I would take I would take his story with a grain of salt. You know what I mean? Because like he his whole life was finding a dog and teaching it tricks and then like creating a like media sensation about it. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04 1:10:10

So he probably like lost the money, like could have been like gambling or like prostitution or like Yeah, I don't imagine that they probably gave him a great contract, but I also would say that like if right now he's blaming his health on all the weed he smoked over his life. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:28

Well it's medical marijuana.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:30

Yeah, but that's just because of California, you can get medical marijuana license so easily.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:35

True, true.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:37

You go to Dr. Friggin' Bud. Doctor Airbud. Dude, I forgot. That's where he got the idea. Um yeah, he has like chronic pneumonia, um, and he's he's really struggling.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:52

Um and he didn't get a payout from the nasty producers of Airbud.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:59

And then I was thinking about this is that Airbud first movie, Buddy, such a star. Second movie, new buddy, because Buddy the first died. Maybe Kevin's connection to the films was all you know based on the fact that he's like, I have this dog. You want another dog that can do what this dog can do? And then Disney was like, we don't need another dog that can do what this other dog can do. How m people are tired of a basketball playing dog at this point. Killed Airbud and essentially killed Kevin's golden goose.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:41

Yeah, they like stole his IP and then crushed him into submission. Yeah. Wow. That's a sad story. So it's gambling.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:52

Well, I almost at Disney. I didn't read the DeCicho files. Well, there could be the evidence going way back that the US government, that the CIA was directly involved in this organization. I'm not saying I just don't know the guy. You should probably email him. He'll probably email you back from whatever library he's hanging out in. Uh you get him on the podcast.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:11

What I found is that there were some emails between Dee Dee and the head of Disney at that point.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:18

I thought you were serious, damn. I was like, I once emailed the emails. I'm not kidding, dude. I I once emailed the guy that played Alf and like kind of was the showrunner, and he emailed back and uh he sent me like a bunch of signed stuff.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:32

I don't do stuff like that anymore.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:33

He does it. The elf guy will do it. That's good that the elf guy will do it. Yeah, and like I I the email was like Winky Face, like there might be an Alf reboot in in the works, like Winky Face. Good PR. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:46

Do you know the movie that's like about the writer of Alf and his like drug struggles? Do you know this one? No. It's like they didn't have the IP to Alf, so it's like some green alien monster in the movie, but the whole thing is he's like strung out and it's about his time like writing on Alf and how like detrimental to his mental health it was.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:05

Oh, I mean, I have nothing to but nice things to say about this guy. I mean, he was really nice. Um it I auctioned we the I was working for a theater company and we like auctioned it off. You were like, you want like a signed Alf photo headshot. Nobody did.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:22

Nobody did signed Alex headshot?

SPEAKER_03 1:13:25

Yeah, exactly. The one sub shop in town was like, I need this.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:30

Um they did do there was a thing on John Oliver's show about Airbud. Oh. Very detailed look into the Bud franchise and the casting for the new Airbud. Yes. The dog. Yeah. And they ended up casting two dogs to fill the same role, and they don't look similar. Oh. They're both golden retrievers, obviously, but they they look very different, like different color coats.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:55

Well, they're probably just gonna use CGI for everything anyway.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:58

Yeah, they'll buff that out in post. Um, but yeah, it's uh it's quite a crazy story.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:06

This is the first time that they've ever cast dogs for the Airbud franchise. Um I read and it seems very goofy to me because it's like that's like casting a kid and going through like a three-year process of trying to cast a kid.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:20

Yeah, it's gonna be different by the time it's gonna be a big thing.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:22

And then it's gonna be different by the time it gets there. Yeah. When they when they use babies on like film sets, what they'll do is they'll have like a room full of babies. So they'll have like five babies and like a nurse, and then like they'll do different takes, and they'll just bring the baby that's like doing whatever they need out at the time. So if they need like a crying baby, they'll be like, okay, we'll got the one that's crying now. Get him in there, like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, it's sleeping. Okay, get another crying baby, you know. So it's like you have them on standby. Yeah. You just like keep rotating them out.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:51

I was wondering about that. Well, they just start to get the babies to cry. It's like super expensive.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:56

Say nasty stuff. No, they'll just like ask their mother in danger. No, no, no. They'll like ask the mom. They'll be like, what pisses off your kid? And she'll be like, well, like if you put it in like direct sunlight, it doesn't like that.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:06

And then the director will be like, get a magnifying glass. Yeah, kind of.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:10

Let's pump this up to 11. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:13

We let this thing scream. I know.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:15

I think your baby a vampire. Yeah. They just gotta stop doing it. I mean, they'll just use like dolls now, you know, or like hyper-realistic, like baby things. Um, yeah, dolls. Dolls, puppeteers. Uh American sniper doll. Yes. Yeah. That was a doll.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:32

There's a reason for that though. Didn't the baby drop out the baby actor? Yeah, I think it did. He was like, can't deal with this. Set conditions are too much. This actually kind of feels like a propaganda movie, so the more I learn about this Kyle guy, the more uh the more I'm uncomfortable in this goo goo gaga.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:51

Kyle Guy mentioned in our gump episode. Yeah, yeah, he met Chris Kyle on. Oh no, Chris Kyle. Yeah. I was saying about Chris Kyle. No, I was saying about I think his name was Kyle Chris Kyle. His friend gonna shot him when they were out there shooting on the range. I think we all get in trouble sometimes in the head, get all loopy.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:13

He could have gumped his way, based on that, probably into Trump's cabinet. Yeah. That's good, that's good enough.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:22

Oh, he would have that's he would have done the podcast circuit. Yes.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:26

That is more than most.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:27

Yeah. American Sniper should have gumped to Trump.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:31

Um I'm not talking about even Chris Kyle. I'm talking about Forrest Gump in that situation, would have ultimately, through that narrative, probably ended up somewhere in the cabinet. Oh, of course. But Chris Kyle, obviously, had he lived, would have been fucking I don't even. He would have been in Marco Rubio's book.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:50

Yeah, he would have said something like, I can't I can't fit in no cabinet. That's not big enough for me to stand in. But I said it is the president's gonna ask me, so I guess I'm gonna do it.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:01

That's good.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:02

Um these segments are gonna get shorter and shorter as we get to the end, we just ramp up. So uh any other final thoughts on Airbud?

SPEAKER_03 1:17:11

Is it woke? Do we agree that it's woke? Is it woke that Airbud is woke? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:16

Um we never talked about Airbud being woke. Um I would say it's it's American. It presents a traditional nuclear family from that point. Everybody in it is white except the basketball coach. Um, so I don't think it's very woke, no? That's a shame.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:37

Well, the the dog might have a genetic advantage over some of the kids it's playing basketball against. People don't want they don't think about that.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:45

That's true. Yeah. Yeah. Separate it. Separate them.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:49

Um, so we'll move on to Challengers. Challengers, a film that we really enjoyed, our Valentine's Day episode. I don't have too much to say about this, but we did learn that uh Charlie XEX has a Letterboxd account that she reviews movies under called it's Charlie BB. And so I just want to kind of examine its Charlie BB reviews on Letterboxd, and as a community, we can decide is Charlie XEX a film buff? Yes. Yeah, let's go. I'm already deciding yes. How far back did the reviews go? Um, the first one is in August 2023.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:30

That's so recent. I was hoping it would go back. Oh, is Letterboxd not even that old though?

SPEAKER_05 1:18:34

Um, can I take a potty break before we use it?

SPEAKER_03 1:18:35

Yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:36

Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:37

I love that movie. I didn't fit no cabinet. What are you looking at? What are you what are you looking at? What are you looking at? Don't look at me like that. Don't look at me like that. You're looking at me like I'll slide.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:52

You're just looking down and off to the side. I gotta piss.

SPEAKER_06 1:19:00

Why are you guys gonna piss so much?

SPEAKER_03 1:19:02

I don't. I never have to piss. That's so suspicious. Like everyone's gotta go piss at the same time. You guys go to the bathroom together and just piss, you say. And then you come back, you're all hyped up. Blood coming out of your nostrils, and you're talking about disco. Oh my god, dude. Guess who came into the Russian tea room last night? You said disco. Is that related or no? It's not disco, but it's like So it's not like Donna Summer. It's not Donna Summer, but it's like you'd be like, oh yeah, she would be in the Russian tea room. You're probably not gonna guess it, but I'll s I would say you'd be like, Is it like an ABBA, one of the singers from ABBA? American. A little bit later, more MTV, but like very early MTV. Madonna? So close. Like literally analog. Like Madonna is the 1A to this person's 1B. Like Madonna goes out, this person's going right in. Who's uh whose heart? No, not that. Not heart, but Cindy Lopper. Oh yeah. So then she left her coat downstairs and she was like, I'm so s she like kind of talks like a baby.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:19

Yeah, she's like little and yeah, she looks fucking little.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:24

No, actually, she was kind of like a it was all fucked up. Like the ch you know how like sometimes the coats have like the chains that was like broken, it was like a puffer jacket. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:32

And she's like, I I d I'm so sorry, I don't have any cash to give you. Can I Venmo you for the tip?

SPEAKER_03 1:20:37

And I was like, no, of course not. Like, don't worry about it. But like I should have done it and made it public. So it was just like Cindy Lauper Venmoed me five dollars. Yeah. Um, did she come in with a group? Just her and her friend, and they they they were you know they were pretty old. I mean they I Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:54

Um she's on uh American Horror Story. Is she this season? No, she was in the Coven season.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:00

The Coven she was in the which one with um the Roberts, Julia Roberts' niece?

SPEAKER_04 1:21:05

That she's in every season.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:07

Is she? She's not in the first one. No, she's not in the one with Dylan McDermott. Uh Dylan McDermott is in a lot of seasons too. Is he? Okay. Oh, maybe I'm thinking of Sarah Paulson as well.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:17

Yeah, Sarah Paulson's in every season.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:18

Sarah Paulson's in every season. Oh wow. She might have dropped out for one because I think she got in a fight with Ryan Murphy about like contract disputes, and then she came back for all his other shows. Is she in um The Beauty or whatever? She is not in Beauty yet. I think she might be in it, but she's in like all the duels, she's in like everything. Yeah, oh dude, that was so bad.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:42

I didn't see that.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:43

She's also in the the first Kim Kardashian season of American Horror Story, which is very bad. Um, cool. So uh we're gonna only really go through like well-known movies. She's uh not to sway the thing in any way, but she's also reviewed a ton of like indie obscure films. Wow. She is a film buff. Don't let that sway you.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:08

It swayed me already.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:09

Um so the first one we'll go is The Invisible Man 2020. She said, Oh my OMG Hun, he's literally right there.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:19

That's a good what's how many stars?

SPEAKER_04 1:22:21

Uh she did not give it a rating.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:23

So she's like a comment farmer. Engagement letterbox queen.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:32

Um Nick and Nora's Infinite Playlist, 2008. She says, I'm such a sucker for this kind of shit. Should I be reading this in a British accent?

SPEAKER_03 1:22:41

Yeah, do it more like uh yeah, posh and um and fun.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:45

I'm such a sucker for this kind of shit.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:47

Yeah. Let me close my eyes and imagine. That was John Lennon.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:55

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:56

Let me close my eyes and imagine Charlie XEX is gonna join us for the Beatles album. The House Bunny 2008. She had to have loved it.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:07

Wemazita's a Oh, because of the sorority. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:12

Mm-mm-mm-mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:13

How do you feel about her so far? Um, it's making me like her less. I like the the challengers one because she seemed all uh jacked up, just all souped up.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:22

Uh for Uncut Gems 2019, she quotes her father, which says, What's the point of any of this? This is the worst film I've ever seen.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:32

Who's her father?

SPEAKER_03 1:23:33

It just says quote my dad.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:36

Oh.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:36

It was one of the guys that was angry at Adam Sandler's character. The whole movie. Because that's I know what they were like.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:42

Charles. I don't know the alphabet well enough. For the lighthouse WBW.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:57

For The Lighthouse 2019, she says my nightmare job wouldn't last a second.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:04

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:05

Even with Robert Pattinson up in there? You know you're getting stuck with the other one.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:10

Oh yeah. With Willem Defoe and his fart mass.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:14

You know. Ghost World 2001. First review we get. Five-star review. She says, Thora Birch is my dream girl. Anyone who says this movie is boring is an idiot, and I can't be friends with them.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:28

That sounds like a film buff to me.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:32

Because you have strong opinions on films and you'll break up a friendship because of it.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:36

Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:37

But I think there's levels. Like, that's not maximum film buff. I think maximum film buff like comes full full circle to being like movie good. I like going to the movies.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:48

Yes. Yeah, she's not saying anything. I mean, she's just making a comment. I would call them snide comments.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:54

Um, this next one I think will secure her in film buff category, at least in my opinion, babe pig in the city, five star review. Well, okay, five stars. Okay, let's let's can we guess what she says? Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:06

Out of any word in the English language.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:09

I'll say it is a one-word review. Pig. A pig. I'm just gonna say like bab. Beb. Um flawless. Babe pig in the city is flawless? Yeah. There were some plot holes. The dog that was in the wheelchair thing kept showing up upstairs, downstairs. Like, how was it doing that? They didn't explain that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:37

Rocky horror picture show, 1975. How many words? Uh six words. Six words. And one two of them are Tim Curry.

unknown 1:25:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:47

Tim Curry serving man cunt.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:50

Kind of, yeah. Tim Curry so sexy, holy fuck. Cool. Oppenheimer 2023. Simple review. Like this cause all liked this cause they were all just gossiping about bombs. This is fun.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:12

They're good. They're funny. Snappy.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:15

Moneyball 2011. I don't think she liked this one. How many words? Uh five.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:21

I didn't like this one.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:25

It's probably about Brad Pitt's appearance, maybe. Like No.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:29

It's about the movie as a whole.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:30

Movie as a whole. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:32

I don't know anything about baseball.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:34

Kind of. Both of what you said are like if you combine them, but it's more general. This isn't for British people.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:41

Yeah, alright.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:42

Okay. Yeah, whatever. I hate that. I I'm making just noises into the microphone now. I like Moneyball. I feel like they do a good job of explaining the cunt conceit. Yeah. You know. I don't maybe Charlie should have paid closer attention. Well, you're not British. Oh, yeah. If they made Moneyball but for fucking crooked cricket. Oh, cricket. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:04

Or uh or yeah, football.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:07

Yeah, if they're like, oh, you know, this guy's uh really good at hitting wickets. I'd be like.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:13

Oh wait, no, that's cricket. Do they both have wickets actually?

SPEAKER_03 1:27:17

I I can't tell you. I can't tell you. Uh croquet is a mallet.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:21

Yeah, but you hit it through a wicket.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:23

Oh, I see what you're saying.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:26

Um five-star review. Five stars for conclave. Okay. Two words. I would agree with that. Oh, it's gotta be about vaping, I would say. I would right? That's a good guess. Uh like Great Vape. No.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:47

Great vape. I think it's uh Stanley Tucci.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:55

Fucking fabulous.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:57

Oh wow. A little bit uh Soft on that one. No, I thought.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:02

Oh, Dude, this is about a movie we just kind of discussed. A complete unknown. The Bob Dylan movie. Comedy star. No stars. There were a lot of songs in this.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:13

I thought I was like, that's not Bob Dylan. That's not him.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:22

Um, okay. This one, I think, is the longest review we've seen. Nosferatu 2024.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:31

Oh, she's gonna love this one.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:32

Five stars. Okay, wow, there is so much I love about this movie. Some fave things. The shot of the black umbrellas in the rain on the cobbled street, the way tears looked falling down people's faces, Lily Rose Depp contorting, pretty much anything Lily did, actually. Shadow of the Hand moving across the city, Willem Defoe, Isaac Newton name drop, the overall symmetry every time a door window opened. She does Nick walking down the pathway at night, Aaron TJ blood throw up on coffin moment, general sound of breathing throughout movie, overall costume department sleigh, and so much more. I just really loved it, and I'll probably watch it another two times this month. Go off, Robert Eggers.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:13

So she does like British things because she's like Isaac Newton mentioned.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:18

Clock that.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:19

Clocked it. Um, I always like to imagine the table read for that movie because I bet it was really weird. Because all of Nosferati's lines are like I am from the darkness, I feel the rising tides of the changing winds.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:38

I think he spoke uh relatively plainly. I don't know. He's like signed the contract.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:48

Yes. That's a funny one.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:49

That's a good one.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:50

No, we got neighbors.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:55

Um I love Nosferat too. Uh it's one of my favorites of that year.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:00

Yeah. I was just I didn't love it when I saw it in theaters, and then I rewatched it not that long ago, and I loved it.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:07

You fan?

SPEAKER_05 1:30:08

Huge fan. I love Robert Eggers in general.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:11

Eggers. Eggers. I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:17

To your original question about rating Charlie XCX's film buff.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:26

Yeah, we're still in that. Credentials. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:28

I was just trying to think of the right word I wanted to use. I think we gotta go on like a tier system.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:34

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:36

And I would say the like snarky film review letterbox general vibe is not S-tier. Okay. Because S tier goes back to like Mush Brain. Because you love film so much that you're just like, I'll watch anything, I don't care anymore. And also, even if you critique stuff, you can still find the fun of it all. But I think she's at she's in A tier. I think she's in a nose ball.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:08

Yeah, she likes her movies.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:08

Yeah, uh, The Bling Ring 2013, five stars. This movie is aging like fine wine better with every watch PS. I miss my Blackberry XX.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:18

Because she's like she's getting like she is giving five-star reviews to like not five-star movies, which I like. That's getting it's it's teetering on the S-tier dynamics. I think she's an A-tier movie buff.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:32

I think I would agree with that sentiment. Um The Visit five stars, um, phenomenal. Nice. Very nice. I think it's funny to give uh the visit five stars. It's a yeah, that's that's a move. That's a move.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:56

The rating system is always a tough thing. It's like objective versus subjective.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:04

Yeah, and that's why I think I appreciate her not giving so many films star rating. That is thoughtful. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:11

Because I have like there are probably Oscar-nominated movies that I would give a lower star rating than like like SAW 3 because of just like my own personal preferences and they're being rated on a different scale. Right. One's a quality scale, one is a a saw scale. You know?

SPEAKER_03 1:32:33

It's different. It's a different rating system. I I mean I go I I can't stop watching Coda. What did you just pick up? Nothing.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:43

A sugar packet?

SPEAKER_03 1:32:45

No, it could be. It's silica gel. Throw away. Do not eat is in parentheses. Yes, uh.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:51

Do not eat. So we know what you're about to do in the penalty.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:55

Do not eat suggestion.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:57

Uh, just to get ready for Oscar season, we've got one battle after another, 2025. Uh, she goes off on these next two. I feel like I haven't watched a film in ages because of being on a honeymoon and in Paris and having a weird body clock at the moment where I'm just sort of all at all hours of the day working. But I finally went to see PTA in Paris with Finn after being in the studio. It was literally the hottest theater I've ever been in, which just sort of added to the stress. But yeah, this was super cool, and everybody comes through big swings in their performances, which I love, and I feel like we need more in general. Tiana and Chase were on fire. Leo's timing kills me. He's so damn funny. Agree, agree. And I think I'm beginning to realize that I'm just obsessed with Benicio, uh, especially in this movie, agree. Honorable mention to Sean Penn's physicality. Nice to watch a movie again.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:47

She knows Ball for real.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:50

Five stars, Marty Supreme.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:52

Ah.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:52

No fucking notes. I arrived knowing this would be great, but I left completely and utterly dazzled. Josh got the juice, but he obviously fucking knows, because there's no way you pull this off without knowing you're the fucking shit. Heartfelt, explosive, raw, and sweaty with pace and desperation and humor in abundance. From the sperm credits in the beginning to the tears at the end, I felt it all. Timothy was inspired, performance of a lifetime type vibes, but obviously, if he's already hit this level, then there's so much more in the tank. Odessa is a rocket, I could watch her all day. Plus, Abel, Fran, Gwynneth, Isaac, I squealed when he arrived. Haley, Tyler, Dan Lopatin on the score, even the fucking dog was good. I mean, this film is like the gift that keeps on giving, and it left me thinking, what is life without internal struggle and dream? Passionate to its core. Sometimes you gotta say fuck it and go for the jugular. Can't wait to watch this all over again and probably five times more.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:48

That one sent her back to mid-A tier to me. Oh, okay. That that took a little that took a couple notches off the belt.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:56

I haven't watched Marty Supreme yet, uh, but we'll before our Oscar episode. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:01

I'm very curious to see your takes on it. Yeah, I want to hear your takes on it. But maybe we won't.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:06

Um finally, we'll get into Gump territory. We'll wade into the bayou with Gump. Um, Jude, I think the first thing I want to say is that uh we constantly are talking about Elvis recently on this. Uh, we've got two scenes from two different movies, Elvis versus Gump and how Elvis learned to dance. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Oh, shake your hips a little bit. Let me see that thing you're doing with the leg. Yeah. Any thoughts on that right off the bat? Because I know you're passionate about both these films.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:34

Um, great scene. Um, totally bought it. I think the first time I saw it, I didn't really know who Elvis was, so I was a little confused, but like later on it's very clear. And then the Baslerman Elvis, how he learned to dance.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:48

Um he's like watching erotic dancing.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:52

Yeah, but for Forrest Gump is not in that unless they cut the scene from the Basler.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:57

How Elvis learned to dance. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:59

Yeah. Yeah, they cut the scene from the Baslerman where Forrest Gump, the real human, teaches him how to dance.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:04

Oh, okay. I see. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:05

They didn't work that in very well.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:07

I will say Gump uh is uh is Black Erasure because it takes um black people out of the Elvis equation. Whereas the film Elvis is Black Exploitation um in its presentation. Okay, alright.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:23

Uh how do we feel about this? I haven't seen no, I have seen Forrest Gump, but not for a long time. And I haven't seen Boz Lerman's Elvis.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:30

Yeah, you don't really you don't really see a black person in Forrest Gump until his adult his adulthood. Don't stop doing that. What? Playing with something on the table. Sorry. Um but you know, I don't think that Elvis is uh necessarily like black How's it black exploitation? It actually I've explained this on the podcast before, but I think it does a good job of just like, you know, it it explains the evolution of, you know, d Delta Blues and how it was eventually represented in the music of Elvis and also the the Beatles and other Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:05

This is what I I'm I'm not I'm saying what is your opinion on my on my thesis, and you're giving it. So yeah, I that's all I'm asking for, baby.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:15

Yeah. No, I just I'm being adversarial because I feel like that's what we we ha we need more conflict. We need to fight each other. Yeah. On this podcast, we need to fucking get angry. I'm bringing a full shark though with me. And I'm bringing just your Steven from Quora.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:32

He's trained. Thomas. I'm DM. Does Quora have Thomas? I am not bringing Thomas. Thomas is a liar.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:39

Yeah. Yeah. Uh does does Quora have a DM feature? That would be crazy.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:43

I should look into that to try to get you can definitely like comment directly to people. I don't know if they have a private message if you understand. Like Quora meetups, zip code.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:53

Get some like interviews going.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:54

Um, the next thing I want to bring up is just based on my own thoughts about uh the film. Um, you can find a very quick and short and I think succinct deconstruction of Forest Gump Gump uh in a GQ article called Why Forest Gump is a Poisonous Film.

SPEAKER_05 1:38:14

I'm glad to see finally some Forest Gump slander bubbling to the surface. It has remained a beloved movie, and I think I would say one of the most overrated movies of all time.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:28

I love that. I love that.

SPEAKER_05 1:38:30

And I'm glad people are finally speaking out.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:33

Um well, Matt Glasby, just to synopsize it, it basically echoed my opening crawl from our first episode in just his first paragraph where he says, one of the greatest lies Hollywood sells and we all buy is that basically everything's going to be just fine, when history rather strongly suggests otherwise. It's the kind of cloth-eyed optimism that informs Robert Zemeckis' 1994 Oscar Snaffer. Snaffler, but the box of chocolates it promises brings only poison.

SPEAKER_05 1:39:06

Toxic positivity.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:08

Yep. And especially at the expense of a um man who uh you know it mostly makes fun of um at all points.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:17

So this man would like to see like a like a French new wave version of Forrest Gump where he is going like perhaps suffering the pains of Job instead of being rewarded.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:29

Perhaps he's in a real Kevin DeCicho situation. Exactly, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:32

Because I would say, yeah, maybe Forrest Gump is the opposite of of Job in a lot of ways. Instead of um horrible pains being inflicted upon him, only wonderful. Yeah, blessings and windfalls. Blessings and windfalls. Peace and love, peace and love. Peace and love, peace and love. I you know, I don't know. It's part of the it's part of the lexicon. I mean, definitely made before 9-11. Forced gump post-9-11, definitely a little different.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:58

I would say what distinguishes Gump from a Kevin DeCicho, you know, Kevin DeCicho gumped into a dog that was talented and you know made whatever small fortune he did, uh, but then very quickly fell off. Yeah. Um whereas gump just continued to gump up. So what is it that distinguishes a gump from a Kevin DeCicho?

SPEAKER_05 1:40:23

Fiction. One being a work of fiction, the other one being a real deal. Although there are certainly people that gump up in real life.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:31

Yeah. I would argue I would argue that it is uh the Riz. The Rizzler? No. No, the Riz, the actual Riz. The Riz, the Riz of Gump, and iconically the Riz of Tom Hanks.

SPEAKER_05 1:40:43

You think the Tichio has no Riz.

SPEAKER_03 1:40:45

I think the Chichio is Rizless. Oh, I think he puts people off. I think he probably Well, I have a picture of him in my head, and it's very like he doesn't stand up straight, I would say. Um he probably doesn't have a nice shirt.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:59

I'm sure most of his life he was wearing like an LA Kings sweater and like a baseball cap, you know. Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:07

I'm just like, look at my dog and cargo pants. Check this out.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:11

Yeah, probably smells like stale cigarettes.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:14

Yeah. Um Tom Hanks, though, um, you know, hilariously said this about Riz.

SPEAKER_05 1:41:23

Uh I did not expect that transition.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:26

Um if you think you have Riz, you don't have Riz. Riz must be placed upon you.

SPEAKER_05 1:41:33

And he's right for that. I have no disrespect towards Tom Hanks. My disrespect towards Forrest Gump that is independent of Tom. Uh but he is right, and he's right about Riz. You can't you can claim all you want, but the more you claim, the less you have, some would say.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:57

Uh I would say back to this Kevin DeCicho thing. I think that it's the same story as um Michigan J Frog, the guy that finds the frog's like, hello my honey, hello my baby. And he tries to bring it out to perform, but it won't perform. And uh he eventually goes crazy, he's like in a mental hospital, and the frog just dances around, and maybe that's Kevin DeCicho in a lot of ways.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:19

He found other animals, but they would only perform for him in private. Exactly. He's like, Remember I had Airbud? Well, this cat can uh sew a can knit a sweater.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:30

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You like you do you like chinchillas? Yeah, yeah, I got a I got a chinchilla that can host uh host a talk show.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:36

Uh do you know the story of the woman who was claiming to give birth to rabbits?

SPEAKER_06 1:42:41

No.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:42

Do you know this story? I think there's an episode of uh lore about it, but it's like her claim to fame was that she gave birth to rabbits, and they like had all these medical professionals come in and like study her and stuff. Um, and then you know, eventually it was exposed that she just had like rabbits underneath the bed that somebody would like push out of her or something. A little magic trick. Yeah, it was a little magic trick. Maybe you know, yeah, we're all looking for that.

SPEAKER_03 1:43:13

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, I guess the doctors were really like invested, like she was really pushing him in there. Yeah. Oh.

SPEAKER_05 1:43:21

Yeah. Grifts used to be so harmless, or incredibly harmful to yourself, you know. Well, assuming that she was not putting rabbit live rabbits inside of her.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:32

That's my that was my list.

SPEAKER_03 1:43:33

I would imagine you get you freeze the rabbit. There's much more inside. Oh my god, that's disgusting. That's worse than my fucking graveyard tour. Yeah, it's a little worse.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:44

Um, so just to bring all this together, um I was thinking about, you know, how we can kind of focus ourselves on gumping up, how we can kind of make it a lifestyle rather than just like an idea, um, how we can start defining like the language of gumping up, um, and how we can actually work in a lexicon that already exists, and what separates gump from the others, or as I would like to call them, uh the subhuman. So I wrote this a little bit about Forrest Gump. Okay. Forrest Gump is an elite tier case study in Rod Genetic Capital when evaluated through the looks max slash clooks max slash clavicle pill framework rather than the outdoor, outdated normie cinematic lens. Physiognomically, the man is an ab is absolutely moging the population. Wide clavicular spread, strong shoulder frame, good height, thick hairline, symmetrical face, elite cardiogenetics. Once the leg braces drop and he fixes the gate, he's basically operating at Chad Light Endurance Built Chad Light Endurance Build while the rest of the cast is stuck in Normy Purgatory. The insane part is that Gump refuses to optimize. No grooming arc, no gym cell discipline, no status signaling peacocking, the man is out here accidentally gester maxing his way through history, goofily gooning his way from college football to the Vietnam War to shrimp mogul billionaire status while unknowingly moging every subhuman tryhard in the room. Meanwhile, Jenny spends the entire runtime chasing chaotic dark triad edgelords, while the literal high SMV cardio maxed financially solvent Gigaframe is standing there with a box of chocolate asking if she wants to come home. In modern terms, the movie is basically one long black pill paradox. Forest never looks maxed, fork's never gamed, fork's never even tried hard, and yet the man low effort mogs the entire 20th century.

SPEAKER_05 1:45:52

I think that pretty much sums it up. Well beautifully said.

SPEAKER_03 1:45:55

Yeah, it sounds like you need a whole new generation of really weird kids to watch this movie. They'll be really into it.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:02

The new generation of America needs to know.

SPEAKER_05 1:46:07

That was very poetic. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 1:46:09

Yeah, yeah. And also just to be in the the crossroads of history, like if we're really gonna take gumping to that level, we need to put ourselves in a position where we're surrounded by influential cultural and political decisions. Yep. So we'd have to be in Mar-a-Lago.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:27

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 1:46:29

Or um I don't know, where a lot of like uh up-and-coming uh podcasts are happening, like Dimes Square. Yes.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:38

The the jelk boys. What are they called?

SPEAKER_05 1:46:41

The Nelk Boys?

SPEAKER_04 1:46:42

Yeah, the Nelk Boys. We need to start investing happy dad seltzer.

SPEAKER_03 1:46:47

Yes, yeah, yeah. And I meant it as seltzer that made dads a little bit more comfortable.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:56

Any other thoughts on Gump?

SPEAKER_05 1:47:04

I guess you know, we couldn't make it today. And that would be a better world.

SPEAKER_04 1:47:12

There's a lot of moments when I hear somebody say about a movie like, you couldn't make that today. And I usually think like, yeah, you could, why wouldn't you? You you there's no reason, you know, there isn't like a sensitivity culture that's stopping people from making movies anymore. It like doesn't really exist. Um but I do think, yeah, like a gump, they just wouldn't make it today.

SPEAKER_05 1:47:38

Yeah, because it's like why would you do that?

SPEAKER_04 1:47:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:47:41

Um it's not a very good idea. I don't think. Right. Uh and it's not a very good movie. Especially in the Oscar contention category. It's gotta be one of the worst Oscar winners.

SPEAKER_03 1:48:01

Yeah, I just don't think it would survive the post-9-11 world, you know. Like, because you know, that was made at the time when we we thought as a country we were invincible, you know, nothing was gonna bring us down. Uh that is a good point, I guess. Yeah, kind of sold out. Um Yeah, I mean, maybe you could make like a a gump of the billionaire class or something, you know. Like Elon Musk in in his own way is for us gump.

SPEAKER_05 1:48:25

He is very gump.

SPEAKER_04 1:48:26

We already had this discussion, and then you reversed your position on it after like two minutes. What do you mean we had this discussion? Is that gump is not uh gump is not a nepo is not a a thing of nepotism, and that's all this only success that Elon Musk has had is by like nepotism.

SPEAKER_03 1:48:46

Well, no, I I think that he was very much in the right place at the right time, even though he did come from wealth. I think he was in the right place and the right time to become to this like whole other stratosphere of wealth because like he was like in Silicon Valley with like PayPal. You know what I mean? Right.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:01

So like th being in the right place at the right time enabled him to like level up in a gump way to be like a gump way of leveling up is is by accidentally, is by windfalls of you know circumstances. He has made decisions that actively like hurt people or harm communities to to level up. He is not gumping up, he is just choosing to do bad things to increase his status and increase his wealth.

SPEAKER_03 1:49:30

See, I I think that he's making the decisions thinking that they're going to be good, you know what I mean? So, like it in a lot of ways, like gump does things, you know. Like he's like, I just start running, you know, and Elon Musk is like, I just started making electric cars.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:46

He didn't make electric cars. He bought a company that made electric cars, and then he actively made that company worse.

SPEAKER_03 1:49:52

But but he gumped into the success because it was successful. Like, you know what I mean? So he's like accidentally. I don't know what you mean. He is. He's accidentally buying into He's not accidentally buying anything. He bought Twitter. He actively made it worse. It's less successful than it was. Yeah, but he's stumbling through these maps. That's what I was saying. My point is like a gump now would be like a billionaire, right? That's like making erratic decisions.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:20

No, I don't think so. I don't think it's a billionaire making erratic decisions. A gump at its core is pure. A gump is a pure being, and it could be a billionaire, but it would be like somebody I'm saying before 9-11, a gump is a pure being.

SPEAKER_03 1:50:36

Now the gumps are tainted. They've got stench on them, right? Because they're actively hurting people, right? It just mirrors the United States after, you know. I think that kind of I think we are looking at gump as two different things. I'm looking at the dark side of Gump right now. Right.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:53

I think I refuse to look at you.

SPEAKER_03 1:51:02

Yes. I'm gonna need you to look right into the dark. I'm gonna open the coffin for you, and you're gonna see that the gump, the the other side of the head is hideous.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:14

Um I would say billionaire Gump would they'd be like, Gump, you're making you're like just giving all your money away. And he'd be like, Yeah, but then somehow that still ends up making him more money or something. Like he's just like, I decided to give a million dollars to a man selling oranges, and then that somehow makes like viral or something.

SPEAKER_03 1:51:36

Yeah, but I think maybe like he would probably just have a focus on like cultural issues, you know, he'd be like, I I really needed to save the world from you know discourse on the internet.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:46

Because gump one was propaganda, gump two would be even greater propaganda about how the billionaire class is like actually good for America. Well, that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_03 1:51:54

We wouldn't buy it. We wouldn't buy a new gump. You know, we wouldn't buy a new gump.

SPEAKER_05 1:52:00

There's no optimism left culturally. Exactly.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:05

Gump maxing. That's what we're looking forward to. Aura farming, gump maxing. Um, let's get it done with our next cycle. How do you feel about it, Jude?

SPEAKER_03 1:52:15

I feel not you look harried right now. I'm not hopeful for a gump future. You know what I mean? Like, I I want to be hopeful. I want to have hope that there's going to be this kind of like uber gump that's gonna come and like bring us into this like new era of of of optimism and joy, but I don't see it, you know.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:37

There are no messiahs, dude. There never have been. There will be no millionaire messiah. And so what I'm saying is that you and I and Shrimps together, uh, we need to encourage the gump within all of us. And so that we're not looking for one gump, but we are finding the gump within uh the majority and rising up. That's so beautiful. I'm we gump up together. We gump to the next level.

SPEAKER_03 1:53:03

Yeah, we gump together.

SPEAKER_05 1:53:06

Where we gump one, we gump all. Where we gump.

SPEAKER_04 1:53:12

Uh with that said, um, in our next cycle, we've got some fun things coming. We've got Treasure Planet coming up. Yeah. Um, I don't know if it's coming up in the next cycle, but we've got Casablanca coming up. We definitely will have the Shining uh and Dr. Sleep coming up as well. Any any other final thoughts, boys?

SPEAKER_03 1:53:32

Just stay hopeful and carry gump in your heart.

SPEAKER_01 1:53:39

Yes, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_04 1:53:41

I was so uh I was so unaware where that was. Because I just to put this in perspective, over the course of this last two hours, uh he has shedded uh the sweater he was wearing when he came in. He's now just in a tank top.

SPEAKER_01 1:53:58

Um he's been pulling at his hair, which is all skewed.

SPEAKER_03 1:54:04

That's right. I've been thinking about a lot of things recently. Yeah. And a new gump messiah is one of them. And one that we can all build together.

SPEAKER_04 1:54:16

Yes, yes, yes, yes, build it together. Shrimps, any thoughts?

SPEAKER_05 1:54:22

No, I don't have a single thing to say.

SPEAKER_04 1:54:25

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