Squeakquels: A Sequel Podcast

The Basketball Diaries 2 w/ Shrimpbeef

Season 1 Episode 39

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Shrimps brings in his script for the sequel to the Basketball Diaries and surprise, it takes place during the the 2026 NBA finals.

We discuss other basketball films, the implications of a dark Ringo, and Jude gets a text from his cousin challeging him to combat.

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The Basketball Diaries 2 by Shrimp Beef. Exterior Day. Sweeping panoramic views of the NYC skyline on a beautiful sunny summer day. Empire State of Mind by Jay-Z plays in the background. Several classic shots of the hustle and bustle of the NYC streets, finally landing on the exterior of Madison Square Garden. Fans are already outside celebrating passionately, clad in orange and blue. The date appears at the bottom of the screen. June 10th, 2026. We then cut to the exterior of a large hotel. Police line the street, metal barricades separating them from dozens of raucous Knicks fans with airhorns, drums, noisemakers, and so on. Some are carrying signs reading, Fuck Wemby, Nick's in 5, and no sleep for the Spurs. Interior Hotel. We travel through the hallways of the hotel. The jeers of the fans can still be heard even inside. Several Spurs players are passed by looking exhausted, as though they have not slept in days. We then land on a door that reads, Room 67. 67, 6-7 and pan down to see a do not disturb sign hanging on the doorknob. Interior hotel room. Very swanky, organized hotel room. But the roars of the crowd outside still remain. Victor Wembinyama is lying comfortably on his bed, flat on his stomach with his feet gently kicked up in the air behind him. As we get closer, we hear the faint sound of Vivaldi's four seasons leaking out of Victor's over-ear soundproof headphones as he smiles and writes in a journal. I love basketball so much.

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Even though we are losing, I'm grateful to be playing in the NBA Finals.

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I can't believe we won at Madison Square Garden the other night. That was totally awesome. Tonight will be a good game too, and if we win, the series will be tied at two games each.

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We will have a lot of momentum if we can win two games in a row, so I really hope we can win the basketball game tonight. After that, we can even win the championship. That would be so cool. Anyway, I should get going for now. I feel rested and ready, but I need to get outside and clear my mind ahead of the big game. Goodbye for now, basketball diary.

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Victor signs off in his diary with a large VW1, as though he is signing an autograph. He gets up, stretches, and walks over to the window. Seeing the jeering fans, he smiles and takes a deep breath in and out. Exterior Hotel. Victor is escorted out of the hotel by security while police hold back the screaming crowd of hecklers. He smiles, slipping on his headphones and drowning out the noise to the tune of more classical music.

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Laugh at Juke and Joker.

SPEAKER_01

So I don't know if you guys know this, but if you want to have a good time or like make people laugh at a party, you can use grok. Like you can say like do a vulgar roast of somebody, and Grok is gonna like make like an epic vulgar roast.

SPEAKER_04

Totally, totally uh roast this guy. Yeah, Grok, you could say.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you could even say like make a vulgar roast of this person based on their appearance for a person at a party. Yeah, and you can even use swear words. Yeah, you will so you could just like point your camera at the person and say, Grok, make an epic vulgar roast and and and ask it to use vulgar words and and then say like even go more vulgar, like even more epic vulgar words. You can ask Grok to use forbidden words. Oh god.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, it's turn off safe search.

SPEAKER_06

Save Grok. Does Grok give you like a list of the words that it's they're unsafe or there are they're unnameable. They're like Lovecraftians, horror words. Like some guys trying to, you know, get it get up in your get up in your space, and you're like, Grok, I need you to really uh Grok, come save me.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you don't even have to have a reason. No, you I mean to make people laugh or to have a good time.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Or if you just like hate some guy because he like is like hotter than you or something, and like gets more grips, gets better grades, like is cooler and stuff. Like like a like a Chad.

SPEAKER_01

Groc is epic at roasting Chads.

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Yes.

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So I've learned. Tell me, tell share, share what it did. What did you use this for? Where did it win? So I went I went to a party and I really wanted people to laugh and like me. And so I pointed my phone in somebody's face and I said, Groc, make an epic vulgar roast of this person and use forbidden words. And then all of a sudden, it started going like Hall.

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Yeah, they used all the forbidden words. His body burst into flames. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

That's awesome.

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And horrors happen that if I start to describe them, I'll pass out. I will lose my mind.

SPEAKER_06

Dude, you must have been that must have been a one a killer party, dude. It was great.

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People loved me by the end of that party.

SPEAKER_06

You're like, I felt like it was like the first party where I could like comfortably wear my trench coat and people would respect me. People were like worshipping you by the end.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I showed up with a begging you for mercy. Yeah.

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On their hands and knees.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, and they were finally like listening to your ideas of like other posters that should glow in the dark, other than like your pickle rick one or your sublime poster. I got different like kinds of blacklight ideas.

SPEAKER_01

Do you have good blacklight ideas, Jude?

SPEAKER_06

Not currently. You should ask Grok. You tap it out.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, that's true. Grock is a good resource for stuff like that. Emotep.

SPEAKER_06

Uh no, I I've I've not yet to use uh AI for you know uh societal engagement.

SPEAKER_01

No, you just use it for personal issues like uh making yourself Chinese or yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Well, I I'm still trying to do that. See, I'm running into a lot of roadblocks.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, it still won't allow me to do it.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, oh it definitely will will not. I've actually used different provinces and it will block that as well. Because it'll just make it like Nepalese, you know. Right. Um, but for some reason, I don't know, ChatGPT just has like a huge issue with trying to make you Chinese. Well, I'm sure Grok will do it. Actually, that's a good point. Yeah, Grok will do anything. Groc will do many forbidden things. Yeah, that's great. It's uh is it it has like a safe mode on it. You can like toggle it off and be like, okay, like now is it called epic mode or something? I don't know. Does it have a safe mode on it? I I don't know.

SPEAKER_04

I think that it has like built-in safety features, but you can like override them if you prompt it enough to like disable them. Nice. Oh, that's rather comfortable.

SPEAKER_01

John all the grok is only accessible through Twitter, correct?

SPEAKER_04

Yes, that's right.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah. No, I think it's its own like model. I think it's like its own, like not an app, but like it's like a website that would be similar to like ChatGPT.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I thought it was only on Twitter.

SPEAKER_06

No, it can exist like outside of Twitter. It's like its own thing, like outside of Twitter, but I think its integration into Twitter is like really, you know, smooth or whatever. Um just really unsettling.

SPEAKER_01

Imagine we upload Grok into like a humanoid robot and invite him to a party, and we say like, do epic robot. Yeah. Because then it's not me doing it. Yeah, it's robust.

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It's your butt, it's my robot buddy that I keep bringing about.

SPEAKER_04

You're like one of those robots that they keep trotting out at like those like Chinese dance things, and it like walks on the stage and does like a dance move and then walks off. Yeah. It was also in the jackass movie. I was just about to fingering Steve O's butthole.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, they bring in a robot. A robot has more screen time than like most of the regular casts in the new Jackass movie.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, okay. Alright. So they really they really use AI in the way it was meant to be.

SPEAKER_04

It's not AI, it is a robot that is voiced and I believe controlled by someone else. Yeah. It's voiced by someone else for sure. Okay. By uh, what's his nuts? Don Vito. By Don Vito. By Bam's dad. Um what yeah, I don't know. That seems to be like a particular specific model of robot, and I don't know what they're called. Yeah. But they're like really in vogue now.

SPEAKER_06

Okay. And they fall over a lot. Yeah, I mean, I feel like using AI or like robotics or whatever to finger Steve-O's butthole is like probably the only acceptable way that I would review it.

SPEAKER_01

You know. But like you see them fingering Steve-O's butthole today for comedy, in ten years, they're gonna be fingering our everyone, every American citizen's butthole for uh diseases, yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Or, you know, or to lead us to like a new uh level of health, you know. They're just that it turns out the butthole swab can predict cancers, it can it can uh produce you know cures for vitamin deficiency.

SPEAKER_01

Are you saying it turns out that like in the future we find out that putting a finger up a butthole, all of a sudden we find out that you can detect the cancers with it? That's what it's for. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Oh oh so I I see you figured this out way before everyone else. You were just keeping this elixir to yourself. Okay, so no wonder. I've been fingering butthole for years.

SPEAKER_01

I always knew that about you, George. That's why you're so healthy. That's why I'm so healthy. Welcome to Squequels. It's a sequel podcast, it's a lifestyle podcast, it's a podcast about brothers loving each other, but mostly uh we believe that every movie deserves a sequel. I used to say that uh every week we bring in a movie, we discuss it, we discuss possible sequels for the movie, and then a week later we write it. But format's been all wild and wonky, dude.

SPEAKER_06

A hundred percent. And actually, Jordan, I I can't stop toying with the ideas that we change to Wet Boys Playroom. Um I feel like that's been thrown around kind of like as a joke at first, but now like we actually kind of have moved into a playroom.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, let's do a little bit of the psychedelic psychic space update. Set a scene. Um yeah, we're now in the studio. I have a a Greek bust on my uh staring right at me.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

How does that make you feel? Menacingly. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

It's also quite intimate.

SPEAKER_01

You said it might be David.

SPEAKER_06

It's a it's a hundred percent. That is a bust of the statue of David's head, and it's very funny that you got it outside of your Greek neighbor's house.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_06

Um I mean, where else would you get it?

SPEAKER_01

Truly. It looks like it's like foam rubber, but it's actually like tin. It's very light, but it it it is metal. Interesting.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, it looks like one of those um the images that would kind of like be superimposed over like a Bill Nye the Science guy in the E equals L C squared.

SPEAKER_01

Absolutely a floating, rotating clip art that just moves across the screen. Alex, this is your first time in the space. Give me your impressions.

SPEAKER_04

It's nice. I feel like you know, we've moved up in production value. We're no longer in a living room, we're now in a bedroom. But yeah, reformatted bedroom. There's nothing there's no bed in it. Yeah, yeah. But uh no, now we're in the little office, we got stuff on the walls. You have a desk. I got a desk. It can be very imposing on us.

SPEAKER_01

Does it feel like a talk show?

SPEAKER_06

It does. I feel like a guest. I mentioned Bill Maher at first, but it's completely different because every time I go on Bill Maher's show, I feel like very comfortable, relaxed, I can get fucked up with Bill. Oh, yeah. Bill can do his like I let him do his fingering stuff just a little bit later. But this kind of feels a bit more like uh like the late, late show.

SPEAKER_01

I don't I don't know if I like that because I see you both like looking at me and like waiting to respond to something I'm saying, and it feels less of a conversation. Yeah. You're leading. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it kind of right now you just you stare at me and then you pause and you wait.

SPEAKER_06

I'm waiting for you to be like, so how would you trip over? Like I heard something happen with your furniture, or I heard something happen with your with your luggage on the way to the airport.

SPEAKER_04

It's like comics unleashed.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, how do you feel about lions at the zoo?

SPEAKER_04

Well, you know, actually, I happen to have a very specific story about that that happened to me just the other day. Yes.

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And I have strong feelings about it. Yes. Last week we put out an episode that was just was called Jude is sick. And a minute and sixteen of me going, like, hey guys, sorry, Jude's sick. We're not recording this week.

SPEAKER_06

Dude, I was sick as fuck, dude. Yeah, what happened? I just didn't sleep. It was one of those nights where I got like uh I just was working hard and I came home and I couldn't sleep, and I ended up not just straight up sitting on the couch, unable to sleep, and then I just had to like go into the next day. And I was like, That's a powerful decision to make. Yeah, dude. And I was like, I think I had a little bit of a fever too. It was it was not it was not cute, but uh I got a little sleep. I'm feeling better now.

SPEAKER_01

Good. Yeah, last time you you decided to power into a record in that state, that is our currently lost episode of Squeak Ball. Yeah, it's the uh Deuce Bigelow. The Deuce Bigelow episode.

SPEAKER_04

That's a good movie to have a lost episode about that's the probably the best possible movie.

SPEAKER_06

We need to break it out on and much like Grok, like some indecipherable Latin things were said. Um but dude, that only should come out if, like, you know, it's one of those videos they show if like the apocalypse happens, you know, to comfort everyone.

SPEAKER_01

There were points in in the episode where it was like watching a man like degrade fully in front of me because we'd be talking, and then all of a sudden he would just like lean over and put his hand in his head, yeah, hand it in his hands, and then by the end he was like pulling at his hair and sweating, and I was like, he had taken off like layers of clothing to throughout the recording.

SPEAKER_04

This is why we need to have a video version of the podcast for moments like that. Yeah, he captured the wet, hot episodes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

This one's it's gonna be a little hot. It might get a little wet, but um, it's a beautiful few days in New York. Finally, yeah, finally.

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The heat wave is broken.

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What was the heat bubble? Yeah, the dome. The heat dome. The dome. Welcome to the dome, starring Michael Chick. No. The Dale Dane the guy from uh Breaking Bad. Walter White? No, the guy who Googled Dean Sex Gifts Dean Norris?

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Dean Norris. Is that who that uh what's the what's his name in the show? Schrader? Yeah, Hank Schrader.

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Hank Schrader.

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Hank Schrader here.

SPEAKER_06

That's a guy that gets ranked when Schrader kind of passes out. Maybe I have that in in common with him.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, probably. Sure, why not? Yeah. If you're looking for things that you have in common with Dean Norris.

SPEAKER_01

You know, you want he like tweeted out sex gifts because he was like trying to Google. That's awesome. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06

He was trying to use Twitter to look up um moving images. I mean, who doesn't? Who doesn't? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he he was like, damn, just sex, sex, sex gifts.

SPEAKER_01

Listen, sometimes you gotta you get horny even if you're bald. Yeah. And sex gifts is good for like out-of-the-house horny. You know, it's like something that he's looking at on his phone. Because like he's using yeah, he's using a mobile app to do it. He's on the yeah, you can't watch a full video. You just want a loop of about five seconds.

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Yeah, you just gotta bust a quick one in the freaking Denny's bathroom.

SPEAKER_06

Or, you know, it in a lot of ways, it's like that uh image of um the lemon party or um that wiener meat spin. Meat spin. Yeah, of course. I remember being in high school and my friend Keaton was like, he like, we're sitting in class and we're like 15 or 16, and he just like kind of chuckles to himself. And I was like, what are you thinking about? And he's like, just out there, there's just a server that's just showing that image like over and over, and it never stops, and it's like always happening, you know.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah. I like that he was just pontificating that.

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It's like wistfully thinking, yeah, oh, this is a big thing. This had like a small little smile. This wiener is just like making this circle, it's like that's pretty cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Well, the meat spin is hypnotic. True.

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That as well.

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And so he walked away from that video, never being able to forget it.

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Yeah, and also like making deep enough eye contact, like you would start to think about the meat spin when you look into his eye.

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It was emotional. There's a great moment in Jackass, and there's the the great moments in this new Jackass movie are few and far between. I was not a great fan of it. I think four is like four is Groc style vulgar epic, and five is kind of like, alright.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, it's a little bit like it's like a retrospective more than a new movie, I would say.

SPEAKER_01

And there's a great moment, but there is a great moment where uh Chris Pontius uh does a high jump uh completely naked. Oh yeah, that is good, and he's just gonna be a little bit of a few. And before he does it around, he just starts like slapping his big dick between his legs, and he's such a he's such a weird guy. Yeah, he is. Because he'll like start slapping it, and then he'll start to go like I'm Chris Ponnius, and this is the naked uh high jump. And then he'll go like, oh fuck, I messed up the rhythm on the slaps. And then he's like reset, okay. He just like does it like six times to get the perfect rhythm?

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, they wanted to capture the um the moment of him trying to get it. He was a perfectionist about it. Yeah, yeah, absolutely he was.

SPEAKER_04

He's very good. And that's why the product is so incredible.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, Wild Boys is always my favorite. Controversial. Is that controversial? I don't know.

SPEAKER_06

Would you like Life with Bam? Um no, I just I think Chris Pontius did a thing called Night the Night Monkey, and he would just like put on a monkey costume and just wreak havoc in liquor stores. That was one of my favorite Jackass things. The the first Jackass movie, I think, I remember thinking that it wasn't gonna get funnier than this. I was like, this is it, this is humor. This is the peak. I'm never gonna laugh. Yeah, like when they like go into the Home Depot and just take a shit into like one of the test toilets. Like as a 12-year-old, I was like, this is it, this is art, this is we don't need everything better, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's all been downhill from there. Yeah, nothing ever was better than that. No, it wasn't. So you were right.

SPEAKER_01

Your life from like 12 years old on has just been downhill. Nothing's gotten better. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06

It's like it's funny because like really, um the most like holy moment I've ever had in a movie theater was watching Borat. Like it was electric. Yeah. It was like a full movie theater. Everyone was like laughing, and this did you see that?

SPEAKER_07

Oh my god, I can't believe it.

SPEAKER_06

Um no, nothing is ever cut in live theater either. There's nothing to laugh about anymore.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, your baby comes out and you're just gonna go, ah a melancholic sign.

SPEAKER_06

Or very nice. Oh that's bring a little bit of Borat back into the baby's. I don't think of it having lost something, I think of it having remembered something, you know, keeping it going.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, we need to bring back Borat. There's like we talk about sometimes when you're around, is like there was less whimsy in the world. Today? Yes. There is. With and um I think Borat was is is a creature of whimsy.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah. Or you could ask Grock, you'd be like, hey Grocki, you gonna help me make a whimsical Borat kind of guy to like lift up my spirit?

SPEAKER_07

And it's like, oh well, actually, I'm trying I'm generating a very whimsical uh uh pickle rick for you right now. Ah, I see.

SPEAKER_06

Sounds like Buffalo Bill. Buffalo Bill. Uh I was supposed to be Elon Musk, but I guess I sounded like Buffalo Bill.

SPEAKER_01

This week we are talking about and reading Shrimp Beef's uh sequel to the basketball diaries. Uh Jude and I had a pretty good conversation about the basketball diaries a couple weeks ago. You did have not listened to that episode. No, I have not. You have not watched the basketball diaries. No, I have not. You have not looked at a poster of the basketball diaries. No.

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The only thing I know about the basketball diaries is that it is sad.

SPEAKER_06

You do know it's sad. I know it's sad. Okay, okay. I'm just I'm checking the polygraph test that you're connected to, and it it's completely checks out.

SPEAKER_04

But I don't know like why or I don't know anything about it other than that it's like a heavy movie.

SPEAKER_06

Do you know an image of it? Is there any image of the basketball movie?

SPEAKER_04

Is Sam Jackson in that?

SPEAKER_06

No. What am I thinking of? Coach Carter.

SPEAKER_01

Coach Carter. You I think you called Coach Carter out as like what he think he would think the movie would be like. Yeah, I did. You specifically said I haven't seen that either. You specifically said Coach Carter.

SPEAKER_06

I thought it was gonna be, yeah, I thought that you were gonna think it was like a Coach Carter or like a Remember the Titans kind of like inspiring. But see, that's different.

SPEAKER_04

Is it like a troubled youth situation?

SPEAKER_01

Wait, wait. I don't want you to learn anything until after? No, not even. Never. Never okay.

SPEAKER_04

Because I have to write the basketball diaries three.

SPEAKER_01

Of course. After you hear this, you're gonna want more. Do you want to learn about the basketball diaries uh at any point? Yeah. Okay. But maybe once we're once we're completed the read through. Yeah, it's um it's not a sports movie. That's the first thing. It's not? It's not.

SPEAKER_04

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_06

I mean, basketball is definitely not the focus of it. You are blowing my mind. I mean, it's an important part of it, and it's like kind of like a a glue that like holds it together, but I guess like the equivalent. Would be like uh the basketball diaries or it's like it like if Goodfellas was called like the guys who make the sauce. Yeah, yeah. But it's like actually about the mafia and his relation with his wife or whatever.

SPEAKER_04

I see. Yes. Okay. Should I guess what it's about now? Sure. My guess was that it was like sort of like an like inner city school their basketball team, and the kids have their troubles outside off the court.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, that is if I had to give the most generic description of the movie, that's pretty accurate.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, it is it it it actually is accurate, but it's too vague, I guess is what I would say. Yeah, it's moving vague. Okay, there's a big problem that I'm missing. There's a there's a very specific problem. Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, well, let's hold that. I don't want to know what the problem is because I may have we don't know, I may address the problem in the script.

SPEAKER_06

That's true without even knowing. Like psychically just having it implanted. Yeah. It's like when two people drew Charlie Brown at this or Dennis the Menace at the same time. Yes, the like the French guy. Oh my god, yes. And like the two guys like created calculus at the same time.

SPEAKER_04

It's yeah, so you created the basketball diaries many years later.

SPEAKER_01

40 years, or no, because he it was takes place in like the 60s, right? Yeah, yeah, the book does it. It does?

SPEAKER_04

Oh, I thought it was like in the 90s. The movie is in the 90s.

SPEAKER_06

The movie's in the 90s, but there's a book? It's based off a book that takes place in the 60s that they like flash forward to the 90s, and it doesn't like help anything.

SPEAKER_01

I have to pee. Alright. Go pee. Go piss girl. I love that meme.

SPEAKER_06

I love that meme, go piss girl. You know, actually, two independent people came up with the go piss girl meme. Oh, really? Oh, at the same time. At the same time, in two different internets.

SPEAKER_01

This is what's amazing about this. I I keep saying I'm trying to build this psychic, psychedelic space, and sometimes I always question like, does psychic like turn it off? Like is is that something just wild to say? But I do believe in kind of this latent psychic energy that we share as individuals.

SPEAKER_06

Something weird did happen when I first came in today. Well, not when I when we first started recording. I did a Bill Maher impression at first that I'm pretty sure was pretty good, and it went away. I'm not sure I'm gonna be able to do it again. That Bill Maher just kind of came out.

SPEAKER_01

Bill Maher will exist in this space, and there might be points where any one of us can can pluck him out of thin air and and put him within us. And we're just blessed in that regard.

SPEAKER_06

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that's that's what comes with the psychic energy. You you can get all these great personalities just kind of in the ether, floating around.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Ha-cha-cha. You know, like a little maybe a little Groucho marks might come out. Yeah, oh absolutely.

SPEAKER_06

Or um like a prop comedian like Carrot Top. Yes. You know, you know, pull him out.

SPEAKER_01

I like that you go, your your reference is a prop comedian, which one, whatever you're doing, will not translate great to audio. Yeah, yeah. And two, it also like as a level of comedy that you're gonna have to think of of like first, what is the prop? And then what is the joke?

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, yeah. I really didn't set myself up for success there. And also, there's better prop comedians than Caratop, I think. Okay, name I just won. Name it would be Gallagher.

SPEAKER_04

Okay. That's fair. You think so? Watermelons, man. That's good.

SPEAKER_06

Dude, Gallagher was apparently kind of a dick. Really? Yeah, yeah, he's a horrible guy. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Wow.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

This is news to me.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, he's a bad, bad dude.

SPEAKER_03

Why?

SPEAKER_01

Um, he's just got like bad, he's like mean to people, he's got bad politics. Yeah. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Really? Yeah, like I was I forget what I was listening to some kind of podcast, but they were talking about like they they took their kids to see like a Gallagher show, and like he brought the kids up on stage and uh made them compete. Um, I guess it was like throwing, you know, basketballs in a jar or something, or in a bin. And uh one kid lost, and he was like, No, this is how this is how it feels to be a loser. You know, he like made him like face the crowd, and like the kid started crying, and like Gallagher was like, This one is the loser, he sucks. Or something, you know, something like that. You like kind of like publicly shamed the kid when he should have been like, you know, we're all winners here.

SPEAKER_01

Why?

SPEAKER_06

No participation trophy.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, no participation trophy. Oh my god, Jordan, you'd be like Gallagher. In fact, reverse participation trophies shame the loser.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, that's funny. To make fun of a kid in front of an audience full of laughing people is funny.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, Jordan's like, you know what?

SPEAKER_01

You know what? You know what your trophy should be? The other kid's corpse. Yes, yes, and then they had them rip the kid apart. Um, also Gallagher, um, he's like one of the only guests to walk out of WTF. Really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

What's WTF? Mark Marin podcast. Yeah, yeah. His politics were pretty terrible. I think he was just like a kind of angry.

SPEAKER_04

He was like a OG terrible politics, like pre-Trump.

SPEAKER_01

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. And um he also, you know about like Gallagher 2. So I've heard it's like gone from my memory. He would like have his brother go on stage as Gallagher, but it would just be Gallagher 2, but it was just his brother dressed up as him doing the same act.

SPEAKER_04

That is funny.

SPEAKER_01

So that you could like take a break or like I think it was just to grow the Gallagher Empire. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_06

That's like what Blippy does, the child, uh, the child actor or the actor for the children's show, Blippy.

SPEAKER_09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Um, it was like originally a YouTube shock comedian um that became like a kids star, kind of like a Miss Rachel type deal, but like less educational, and he just created an army of like blippies that just go around and do his blippy thing. And a lot of the kids like don't they they kind of can sense it. They're like, This isn't blippy.

SPEAKER_04

This is fake blippy, dark blippy.

SPEAKER_01

We in the Midwest, like Wisconsin, Illinois area, we had a woman called the Pocket Lady, and she would do parties in like a dress that had like lots of pockets on it. And the fun thing is that like each pocket had like a little surprise, and you she could like tell a story with the thing that was pulled out, or like do a magic trick, and you would, you know, you'd see flyers for like bring the pocket lady. Yeah, have the pocket lady at your birthday party, and she was like a thing. And I've heard uh like Lauren Lapkiss on a podcast talking about like oh the pocket lady uh was at parties, and I remember the pocket lady from like fairs and stuff. In your like hometown or area, was there kind of like a minor celebrity like that for children's parties?

SPEAKER_04

Oh, not for children's parties. We had like minor celebrities that were like just like random dudes in the town that may or may not have been unhoused. Oh, okay, yes. Um just like local like local legends.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, local characters. Yeah. I'm I'm I was specifically looking more for like you would pay them to show up somewhere. No, we didn't have one of those, I don't think.

SPEAKER_06

I the closest thing that we had in in my town was like this manatee that everyone had seen named Snooty that lived to like 80. So it lived in an aquarium, and like every third grade class was required to go on a field trip where you would go see Snooty, the manatee, and like everyone had a memory of seeing him. And one day it was like it was honestly not that long ago, maybe like six years. Um, they got like new, like like hot manatees. Okay, and they they put those in with Snooty, and he was like 80, and they could like go underneath um the water for because manatees need to like go up to breathe. Yeah, they could go underwater for like much longer, and I guess Snooty kind of thought that he could do that too. So he drowned. Oh my god. So one day the workers came back, Snooty drowned, they had a funeral for him, and now there was a statue of Snooty in the Sarasota airport. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Do they know that he drowned for sure, or did could he have just died of old age?

SPEAKER_06

It was a weird scenario where like the tanks, it's like two tanks far away, and underneath there was like a long um like passageway. Yeah. And they found his body in the passageway and the other manatees in the other tank.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, so he like couldn't make it across.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, so I guess for whatever forensics they thought, or unless the other manatees killed him and made it look like an accident. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

That's you get you bring in a bunch of the old in with the new.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah. Yeah. But anyway, like uh everyone, because he lived so long, like a lot of the parents, like my friend Alex's parents, are like, oh yeah, I remember seeing Snooty in 1977.

SPEAKER_01

Man, that's pretty cool. RP Snooty. RP stunk.

SPEAKER_06

It's stunk. It was like a tank and they only fed it cabbage. So you you walked around it like it was like mecca. So like you would think, you know how like they make like the big like rotation around like the central building? Um, it was like that, and they would throw cabbage into the tank. So it smelled like everyone would? Yeah. And it smelled like your own? No, they were like, give it to you. It smelled like cabbage and like wet, disgusting mammal. It was inside? It was inside, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It was like an atrium.

SPEAKER_04

That's really crazy. Here's the Meridian.

SPEAKER_01

You know that manatees are the only mammal other than humans to mourn their dead. To sit Shiva. Is that true? Whales don't do that? No, they well, they specifically sit Shiva.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, they do Shiva. Yeah. Oh, okay. I didn't know that. I didn't know they did the whole thing. They cover all the glasses.

SPEAKER_04

They came to the You jumped right past that. They're the only other mammals besides humans that have organized religious practices, and you just went straight to Shiva. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

They're Jewish. They are all all manatees are Jewish.

SPEAKER_04

It could have been the only other mammals that are are Jewish. They're the only other mammals that have religion.

SPEAKER_01

Well, it's complicated because platypi are also Jewish, but they're not technically you know, they sit between like this mammal. Oh, they're like the Ethiopians. The Ethiopian Jews. Exterior Park. After escaping the Riffraf, Victor calmly walks through a small park taking in the sights around him. He exits the park onto a quiet street in the East Village. His eye is caught by a dusty, small old bookstore. The sign reads Brunhilde's Books. New and used. You know, I think a good book might help me clear my mind. Victor enters the store and the door makes a loud, slow creak. Interior bookstore. The inside of the store reflects the outside, dusty and dark, with a musty but comforting smell that fills the air. A variety of spiritual-looking items adorn the walls and shelves, as well as rows of seemingly unorganized books. Brunhilde, a withered, old, witchy-looking woman, sits behind a cluttered counter with a large fluffy cat.

SPEAKER_06

My, my, what a tall young man you are. Welcome in, dear. Well, thank you. What a wonderful shop you have here. Oh, you flatter an old woman. It's not much, but it is mine. How long have you been in business here?

SPEAKER_04

You seem to have some really wonderful old books.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, well, it's hard to say exactly. Some days it feels like I've been here a hundred years. Other days two or three hundred.

SPEAKER_01

Brunhilde lets out a raucous cackle with a surprising amount of depth and resonance for such an old woman. Victor is unfazed and still curiously looking around the store.

SPEAKER_02

Is there anything in particular you might be looking for, my dear?

SPEAKER_01

Brunhilde pauses, as though waiting for Victor's name.

SPEAKER_03

Ah, how rude of me. My name is Victor. And now that you ask, I'm looking for something maybe how you might call spiritual. You see, I have a big basketball game tonight, and I like to read to help me meditate and focus.

SPEAKER_04

Ah, basketball, eh? Are you any good? Well, I'm actually playing in the NBA Championship at Madison Square Garden tonight.

SPEAKER_06

My Ma, you don't say. I don't keep up much with those sorts of things in my old aid, but it sounds like you need something very special for a night like tonight. I think I have just the thing for you, Victor.

SPEAKER_01

One moment. Brunhilda shuffles out from behind the desk and enters one of the many cluttered rows of books. Victor follows behind her, amazed at the esoteric selection. Brunhilda thumbs through the row of dusty tomes and finally pulls out a small, slender book with nothing but a strange symbol on the front.

SPEAKER_06

Ah, here we are. This little book has been with me for quite some time. I think it will do just the trick for you, Victor.

SPEAKER_01

Brunhilde hands the book to Victor, who goes to open it.

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Ah!

SPEAKER_06

Not in here! I mean not yet. Ha ha ha You see, this book is very special, Victor, and you shouldn't open it up until you really need to reach that peace of mind. You wouldn't want to spoil the magic now, would you?

SPEAKER_01

Brunhilde cackles again, and Victor, more intrigued than frightened by the uniqueness of the book, laughs with her. Ha, I totally understand.

SPEAKER_04

I will keep it close until well, sorry. Ha, I totally understand. I'll keep it close until that special moment. This is so interesting. I love it.

SPEAKER_06

How much do I owe you?

SPEAKER_04

Ha!

SPEAKER_06

Oh, your money's no good here, my dear. Take it as a token of good luck for your special game tonight. What was it? Um baseball? Oh no, basketball, actually. Yes, yes, yes. Uh you'll have to forgive an old woman. My memory's not what it once was. Well, you take care, Victor, and Good luck.

SPEAKER_01

Brunhilde cackles loudly once more, this time with an otherworldly, indescribable depth behind her voice. Thank you so much. Victor exits the store while Brunhilde continues to laugh wickedly. As he leaves, we see Brunhilde behind her desk, her hand hidden beneath it, clutching a Jalen Brunson jersey. Interior locker room. Mitch Johnson is giving a rousing halftime speech to the San Antonio Spurs. I'm proud of you boys.

SPEAKER_06

Down two games, we stole one back, and now look at us, up 30 at the half. You never gave up and you never quit. And I'll tell you what, we win tonight, and they might as well give us the damn trophy now.

SPEAKER_01

The team erupts with cheers. Victor starts heading out of the room but is stopped by Stefan Castle. Hey V, where you going? Second half is starting in ten.

SPEAKER_04

Uh, just running to the bathroom for some peace and quiet. You know I'd like to do a bit of reading during halftime. Just to clear my head a bit before the second half, so we can close this out.

SPEAKER_01

I'll see you out there. Victor slips the book into his waistband and heads out of the locker room into the bathhouse. Into the bell different movies. Yeah. Into the bathroom. Interior bathroom. Victor sits down in a stall and locks the door. He takes a deep meditative breath and appreciates the quiet amongst the chaos of game four. He takes out the book and is not immediately sure what he is looking at. It appears to be written in English letters, but not English words, or the words of any language he can recognize. He continues to thumb through and comes to a page that he feels very drawn to. It shows a crude drawing of a man with his arms outstretched towards the sun, his eyes blank, white, almost meditative. Across the page is only one sentence Kashu Braku Torgum. Pulling from his knowledge of mantras, Victor breathes in and repeats the phrase several times, breathing out slowly. Just as he begins to relax, a bright light fills the room, and in a moment, he is gone. Exterior Grassy Hillside. Two men, Sharganjar Sharg and Darg. Two men, Sharg and Darg, in Bronze Age style garb stand I didn't did not mean to do that.

SPEAKER_06

Sharg Darg and Garb.

SPEAKER_01

Two men, Sharg and Darg, in Bronze Age style garb, stand in a grassy field among several large stones arranged in a very sloppy square formation on the ground. They speak in thick scouse accents. Well, well.

SPEAKER_06

It looks like fucking shite, don't it? I don't want to say anything, but I know how hard you were. No, go ahead, please.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, it looks like proper shite. Fucking hell, mate. I really thought it would look cool bringing all these huge stones here. Now if you're like a proper wenker. Doesn't look cool at all. I don't know what I was thinking. All these things are right heavy too. What am I gonna do? Bring 'em back to the village? God, how embarrassing is this, man.

SPEAKER_02

Don't be so hard on yourself, mate. It is a good idea. And Stonehenge?

SPEAKER_06

Well that's a proper hard name.

SPEAKER_05

You had to do something with it. No shame and give it a go.

SPEAKER_01

It does look bad though. Oh, it's terrible, mate. A bright flash lights up the sky, causing Sharg and Darg to shield their eyes and cower in fear. Suddenly, in the middle of the rocks, is Victor Wembanyama. And who the hell might you be, big fella?

SPEAKER_06

Well am I? And who are you two? Well, you're You're at Stonehenge, mate. I'm Dart. This is Shark. We're on the place. He actually designed it. Stonehenge? This doesn't look like Stonehenge.

SPEAKER_04

Doesn't look so you've heard of it? Uh yes, of course I have. But it looks wrong. Like it's the same rocks, but they should be in a circle and stack like this.

SPEAKER_01

Victor picks up a stick and draws a crude illustration of Stonehenge in the dirt. Sharg and Darg look at the drawing and turn away from Victor, speaking in hushed tongues. Well that's not bad. It's really not. Hey, mate, how'd you say you'd have heard us again? When they turn back around, Victor is thumbing through his book. He mumbles something to himself, and in a flash of light, he is gone once again. Interior Limestone Building. Imhotep and his wife Renpet Nafarat are in their modest but comfortable living room donned in ancient Egyptian garb. Imhotep is pacing frantically around the room, shuffling through stacks of papyrus.

SPEAKER_04

So you lied on your resume?

SPEAKER_06

You told me I needed to get a job.

SPEAKER_04

Well, I didn't mean tell the pharaoh you're Ra's gift to the world of architecture.

SPEAKER_06

How hard can it be to build a tomb, right?

SPEAKER_01

God, none of these make any sense. A blinding light fills the room, Victor Wembinyama appears. He is less startled this time and assesses his surroundings to get a sense of where and when he is.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, now what?

SPEAKER_01

Is is this Egypt? Of course it's Egypt. Now what are you doing in my house? Victor scans the room and notices the pile of papers scattered across the table and begins to notice the pattern. Wait, are you building something? He needs to build a tomb. Here. Wren hands Victor the stacks of papyrus plans. Well, don't of course. The pyramids. The what? Can you help us?

SPEAKER_03

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

Let me show you. Victor rushes over to the table and grabs a reed pen. He begins to sketch the Great Pyramids and how to build them. My god. It's magnificent! How can we repay you? By the time Ren and Imhotep are able to take their eyes off of the incredible blueprints before them, light fills the room, and Victor is gone again. I'm really into this, Alex, this romp through history.

SPEAKER_04

Yes. All the great moments of aliens coming back to visit.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, and he helped he's doing like tiny moments of quantum leaps where he's like correcting things in the past.

SPEAKER_01

So what you're positing here is that people mistook uh Victor Wembinyama in like cryptography as a gray. A gray. Yeah. Yeah. Whenever we see like the blinding light or like the thing that people say is like a UFO and a picture of like Mary.

SPEAKER_04

Yes. That is all Victor Wembinyama. Yeah. Because he's called they call him the alien.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah. I thought I thought the same thing. Yeah. I agree. Good. I mean This is a true story.

SPEAKER_01

That's kind of like a Bible. What is the old lady's motivation? You'll see. Oh, okay. It's gonna wrap. I'm very interested to see like what she was hoping to accomplish.

SPEAKER_06

She was a Knicks fan, right? Because she she clutched her. She was a Knicks fan. She's the Jalen Brunson jersey.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, but I'm saying, like, what does it benefit her to send him through history? I see, I see. You'll see. Okay. Um, are you secretly a Spurs fan?

SPEAKER_04

No, I'm not. Okay. Um, I'm not secretly a Spurs fan, but I do think Wemonyama is a fun character.

SPEAKER_01

You're de playing him really with a lot of whimsy, if I might say.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I wanted to make him into because he is kind of whimsical. He studied with monks, he reads all the time, he sits in the park and and Sketches. Yeah, he's a he's a very whimsical guy.

SPEAKER_06

He is. He's a very meditative, whimsical character. Not to mention that his his proportions are just it's like it's like watching a spider.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. He's like Tim Burton-esque. Yeah. Um and he's a bon vivant. Yes. And he's got a very soft emotional personality, which I like. He seems like a chill dude.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Um, except when somebody throws a can at his head. It's like, chill out, bro. It's just a can at your head. He was chill about that too. Yeah. If you can believe.

SPEAKER_06

He actually was kind of chill, but it was like a big thing. It was an egg. It was an egg. You dumb shit.

SPEAKER_01

Isn't an egg just an organic can never a yolk? Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah. I'd like to crack open a nice refreshing egg right now.

SPEAKER_01

We should make a shirt that's an egg and it just says fridge cigarettes on it. It does butt on it?

SPEAKER_07

Like the Diet Coke shirt? Fridge cigarettes.

SPEAKER_04

Beers. Yeah. Because it's a can. Yeah, fridge beer. Yeah, and I gotta go. Fridge beer. Even though most beers are fridge beers.

SPEAKER_01

Wow, we're really using Groc today. I just have two things to say about both of your Scouse accents. They're horrible, dude.

SPEAKER_06

I couldn't get it. I just went for Scottish because I was like, it's easier.

SPEAKER_04

And I know a Scouse accent too. Like I dated a Scouse person and I still like I try to do it and it slips from my memory.

SPEAKER_01

Um let me just say an anakanak.

SPEAKER_04

I didn't do I should have warmed up with that.

SPEAKER_06

I didn't do that. No, that's scary. That was a scary accent. When you did when you were dating the scouse person, did did did they like organize things in concentric circles in your living room?

SPEAKER_04

Like mini Stonehenges. Yeah, yeah. Uh I don't know. I don't think the Scouse actually made Stonehenge. It was fun actually. It was Victor Weminyama. But um Oh, I forgot to write in this was a big oversight for me. If you're familiar with the classic, new classic internet video of the guy playing 2K and Victor Weminyama gets like stuck on the rim and starts spinning around really fast and he goes, What's going on with Weminyama? I did not put that in. And I really feel like that's a big missed opportunity.

SPEAKER_06

I haven't seen the meme, but it sounds riveting. It's very funny. Dude, yes.

SPEAKER_04

Um it's like a streamer or something. I don't know.

SPEAKER_06

You know what who it must suck to be right now? Um, the Brooklyn Nets. Yeah. What are you? Just at this point.

SPEAKER_04

Unlovable. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

One of the losers.

SPEAKER_04

Losers. Unlovable, like private equity teams.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, no fans. I mean no real fans. Yeah, and I'm not saying that like the owner to uh James Dolan is like some kind of saint or something. He's a piece of shit. But like the Brooklyn, it's a piece of shit, and they're fucking losers. Yeah. And then also, what are the what are these the um the uh the the Gotham games, right? New City, the the Gotham, uh, they get bigger crowds. They sell out the arena. Yeah. The Nets can't sell out the arena.

SPEAKER_04

No, they can't shit. Um and the Nets sent one of their players over to the Knicks just for him to win an NBA championship. Bridges, yeah, yeah. And the Knicks to still or the Nets to still suck.

SPEAKER_06

Can you name well, I can't even I don't think I can name one player on the Nets, current player.

SPEAKER_04

I cannot either. I th I think they tried, it was it was doomed from the start when now we're a sports podcast, by the way. Yeah, it was doomed from the start when they just like tried to I mean a lot of teams do this, but when they tried to like buy a team, they brought in like Durant and James Harden and tried to make like a super team of like somewhat unlikable players. The chemistry didn't work, and the chemistry was bad, they're unlikable to each other as well, it turns out.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

And yeah, just like you can't buy that touch.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, they they should fuck off and die, dude. This is uh this is embarrassing, the Nets.

SPEAKER_01

I would say the only thing they really have going for them is like decent branding.

SPEAKER_04

I think they're like it's a little corporate slop logo vibe to me.

SPEAKER_01

Um, but it's like I think it's just clean in a sense where it's like you'll see people in Brooklyn like wearing nets stuff, just even if they don't like like the Nets. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

But people, I feel like, and I'm speaking for the whole sports community. I feel like people don't want the clean vibe stuff anymore. Like a lot of people want like the 90s like maximalist crazy graphics and ugly uniforms.

SPEAKER_01

Like, you want that Hornets logo back, the Timberwolves one, too. Yeah, the Raptors.

SPEAKER_04

There were so many cool ass cartoony logos that are like all gone and now everything is just like corporate looking.

SPEAKER_06

Dude, I think they're coming back. I think the tiny cartoon guys are coming back.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I hope so. The only way to save the Brooklyn Nets is to send them back to Jersey because I think then they would, and they did, have like a little bit of like one of those weird, like same as the Devils. It's like Jersey doesn't have a lot of teams, so they're kind of like darlings because they're from a state that has like very few teams.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Um I saw a Bucks versus Nets game a few years back, and the one thing is that most of the people there were just there to see Giannis. Sure. Um, so it was just like all these people.

SPEAKER_06

How are you feeling now that he's left you? And for he's left you in the fucking dirt. He said Milwaukee, fuck you.

SPEAKER_01

Um, I mean, I'm kind of in that mindset too. Last time I went to Milwaukee, I like looked around, and there's a lot of great things still there, but I was on like one of the classic thoroughfares, uh, KK. And um I was sitting in a restaurant and I just like looked out the window and it was all condos and like like strip rolls, shit. It's it's not tech, it's just empty fucking casting.

SPEAKER_06

I was just trying to imagine like a city that's just gone bland, you know, like an archetype cutter sort of.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's it's exactly that. It's like you have your fucking mochi donut store at the bottom of like it sucks. All characters gone, and so I was like, I don't think I need to come back here for a few years. And then I revealed at Christmas that um Anna and I are planning to just like maybe just do every other year, if that, uh, back in Milwaukee. Yeah. And my parents have fled to Florida now for most of the year, so so your parents are on the same trajectory as Yannis.

SPEAKER_06

They're like, Yeah, we're going to Florida. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Um they set the trend, they set the tone. They did it first.

SPEAKER_01

You should see my dad's wingspan, too. It's freakish. Yeah, you're dad. Yeah, your dad's gonna be.

SPEAKER_04

He's not very tall, but he's got ridiculous arms. He's like a backrooms character.

SPEAKER_01

He's like a he's like a Sasquatch. Yeah. His fingers dragging in the dirt. Oh, he's got dirty fingernails. Um, are Yarg and Sarg are those traditional liver puddle names? No.

SPEAKER_04

I just was writing one shot and I said, Yeah, it sounds like a uh Bronze Age name. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Um What if the Beatles were like, it's Larg, Darg, Sarg, and Larg?

SPEAKER_08

I don't think that's a very good song, dog. My name's Doug. I play the drums. I play the drums.

SPEAKER_04

I feel like Rog, who would be the Ringo in that situation, would only say drums. And he would just hit stuff. Drums. He would that would be the only word he would say for the Branjade's Beatles. Yeah, he's kind of the animal of. Yes, he's very much animal.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah. Have you guys been watching um um Rigostar's uh Instagram accounts or social media? No. What's he up to? He'll just uh do like a front-facing video and he'll be like, on Tuesday, July 7th at 2 p.m., I want everyone to think about love at the same time.

SPEAKER_04

Why didn't you do that accent for Sharp? I don't know.

SPEAKER_06

I don't know what these accents are.

SPEAKER_04

I guess I should have to give me architecture. I should have given you a person to end up.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, if you give me people, not a region, then I'll do it. Yeah, I should have done that too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's go back in time. Let's fucking do the whole thing over.

SPEAKER_04

I mean, this whole thing is about going back in time.

SPEAKER_06

Put this fucking shit with the fucking Deuce Bigelow files, okay? Yeah. Um, no, but it's great. But the point is, is that he will just do these videos and I'll be like, it'll be like a flash mob, but a blue.

SPEAKER_00

At 3 p.m. next week. I'd love everyone to flush the toilet at the same time. Kind of is a good idea.

SPEAKER_02

You need you need yeah, if you what the hell?

SPEAKER_08

On July 14th, everyone needs to jump up at the same time to see if you can make it out.

SPEAKER_04

I'm trying to prove that the world accent. I'm trying to prove that the world is flat, mate. Everybody go to one to the left side of the house and jump. There's one.

SPEAKER_00

If everyone faces towards the South Pole and farts at the same time. We'll flip the world over.

SPEAKER_02

He was trying to do that the whole time.

SPEAKER_04

We're gonna push the world out of orbit in the interdimensional spaceship. That's exactly what I was thinking.

SPEAKER_06

There's like one uh Instagram photo he took, and it's like of like the bottom size of side of an exercise bike, and it looks like it's smiling, and you can kind of tell, and it just says peace and love. All you need is love. Yeah, but you can tell that he like fell off the exercise bike and then like rolled over and was like, Oh, that looks like knee on the ground.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, well, when he was concussed. Yeah, he had a head injury. I love smiling.

SPEAKER_01

The only Ringo video I am aware of, and it's the the classic one, it's it's him from a few years back, and he's like, I will no longer be uh signing any autographs or taking pictures with fans.

SPEAKER_00

I understand this might be controversial, but uh it just takes up so much time to stop with everybody assign an autograph, and it doesn't mean that I don't appreciate you, but it just means that I need to prioritize my own time and myself. But for everybody, peace and love, peace and love.

SPEAKER_08

It's always peace and love. I've always peace in love.

SPEAKER_01

That's like him just announcing, like, I'm never signing another.

SPEAKER_06

Stop bothering me forever. Yeah. There needs to be a dark ringo. There should be a dark ring.

SPEAKER_08

Titan vine.

SPEAKER_04

I feel like uh Electric Wizard is kind of dark ringo.

SPEAKER_00

Who's Electric Wizard?

SPEAKER_04

They're like a uh English doom metal band. And they have a song called We Hate You. Oh no. It sounds like Dark Ringo. Oh no. Except louder. Oh no. This sucks. This is the only British thing I know.

SPEAKER_01

You brought the idea of Dark Ringo into existence. Now you're scared of it.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, well, yeah, it's really fucking scary, dude. It's like he's still alive, he's gonna live forever because he's really old.

SPEAKER_01

He wears glasses that enhance the light going into his eyes. Yes.

SPEAKER_06

I don't even know if I don't even know.

SPEAKER_04

His pupils are like this, but they're fully dilated.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, he's like the opposite of drums, too. Yeah, what's that? The guitar. The guitar. But the hateful guitar.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. The opposite of drums is like sucking pressure off of a you know, like a skin. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like depressurizing a skin. Yes.

SPEAKER_06

So he wears like a latex, like depressurized. Suction cut. Yeah, like a suction cut. Yeah, kind of like no rhythm at all. Oh, yeah. He didn't really have that much rhythm to go with. Yeah, this guy is scary, dude, like a spider.

SPEAKER_04

But he looks the same, except he's like a spider.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah. That's cool. Cool. So anyway, we just manifested fucking hidden. Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_04

The minions are coming, they're gonna serve him because he's gonna be the most evil guy on the planet. Oh my god, dude, guys, this is something just happened.

SPEAKER_06

Something big just fucking happened for this podcast.

SPEAKER_01

Did Mitch McConnell actually get announced dead?

SPEAKER_06

No, my cousin.

SPEAKER_07

My cousin just texted me.

SPEAKER_01

Oh.

SPEAKER_07

Okay. Is it a selfie? No, it's about this podcast. Oh no.

SPEAKER_04

Shout out, cousin.

SPEAKER_06

Hey, dude. Just was listening to your squeakels episode, shrimp and beef rap. Don't be lying on there saying you were the strongest first cousin.

SPEAKER_04

No way you just got this text.

SPEAKER_06

No lie saying my mom would egg us on to fight. Haha.

SPEAKER_04

I love that he's. So she did egg you on to fight, however, you're not the strongest cousin.

SPEAKER_06

He claims to be the strongest cousin, I think.

SPEAKER_04

Well, we're gonna have to have him come in. That's right.

SPEAKER_06

And we're gonna have to have you wrestle. Dude, absolutely. He's the only option. So anyway, uh Robbie, I will respond to this text as soon as I like mental headspace to kind of take you on. But consider this um a fucking invitation for me. Kick your fucking keep going. Strong to take on and I'm gonna kick your fucking ass and it's gonna be awesome. Um I am the strongest cousin. I will always be the strongest cousin.

SPEAKER_01

This is not the cousin who everybody makes fun of.

SPEAKER_06

This is brother.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. So he has something to prove. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Because his family is disgraced.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_06

Let's hope he doesn't get to that episode soon. Oh, no, well, I don't know. I I said nice things about him. I said I like him.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you said he's a really good guy.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah. But he just Oh, the Eagles fan. Yeah, yeah. We gotta hope he doesn't listen to that. That was kind of mean. Yeah, dude, the cousins are the cousins are out for blood, dude.

SPEAKER_01

This is crazy. My my we I have never once in my life texted a cousin of mine. I'm not sure. Yeah, we have a group chat, cousin group chat, but that's it. Yeah. I have a group chat with my aunts and uncles, but not with any of my cousins.

SPEAKER_03

That's interesting.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. That's weird. I don't have that. I never hung out with cousins when I was a kid. We would like to see each other at holidays and family functions, but we were not ever friends. Interesting. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

My cousins and I, these cousins that are texting. We we kind of aren't super close right now, but when we were kids, people used to think that we were triplets. We looked very similar. I miss those days. I miss those footings. I miss those foods. When you were 12. That's wild, dude. Dude, there's something in the atmosphere. There's something Oh, dude, after we mentioned Dark Ringo, I got texted by my cousin. Well, that's about the atmosphere. Dark Ringo.

SPEAKER_01

Crazy, dude. Do you think your cousin is becoming Dark Ringo? That would be scary, maybe. Yeah. It's like that scene in the Hulk where the soda, the painted soda drops into the guy's eye, and he becomes the leader. Do they steal that from 28 Days Later, I think? Probably. Exterior. Dry Hills. Victor reappears alone in an arid hilly field with no civilization in sight. Mountains crest around the valley. He cannot pinpoint this location or time in history. To clear his head and think, he begins to walk and eventually thumb through the pages of the old book. Some time passes, and he reaches another page towards the book's end. Only this time the illustration depicts the same man with hands outstretched to the moon and the eyes dark and tired. Darkringo. He closes his eyes calmly and recites the words on the page Bersum Drog Hala. In a flash he is gone. The camera closes in on his giant footprint left in the dirt, with a single butterfly squished into the ground. Several Peruvian villagers emerge from over the crest of a hill and point in awe at the hillside. The camera pans wide to reveal the pathy tread in the dirt on the hillside forming crudely into the shape of a giant man. Interior bathroom. A bright flash brings Victor back into the bathroom stall. His teammate Stefan sees the flash. Bro, are you seriously taking dick pics in there right now? Come on! We gotta go! Victor stands up quickly, snapped back into reality. Unbeknownst to him, the book falls from his lap onto the floor, crumbling into dust as soon as it lands. He exits the stall.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, bro. Sorry. I think I may have dozed off in there for a second or something. I had this crazy dream.

SPEAKER_06

See, you can't let those books get you too relaxed. We got a game to play.

SPEAKER_01

Maybe you're right. Let's go win this thing. Victor and Stefan exit the bathroom and enter a tunnel to return to the court at MSG. Cheers fade in along with the voices of the announcers.

SPEAKER_06

With a 30-point lead at the half, it would take an act of God for the Knicks to win tonight. They need a real miracle.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, Bob, I'm betting they wish they could go back in time and change this one, but let's see what they can do in the second half.

SPEAKER_01

And then can Victor Wembanyama say this last bit? Fien. Hell yes. Oh my god. That's how you know it's an artsy movie. Yes. Ends with Fiend. I still don't understand the motivation of the old lady.

SPEAKER_06

Because they said it would you would need to go back in time to change the outcome, and he literally went back in time. But he didn't change the outcome.

SPEAKER_04

He changed for the city. He did, they were up 30 at the half, and then they lose that game.

SPEAKER_06

Because of the pyramids and Stonehead.

SPEAKER_04

Well he stepped on a butterfly. The butterfly effect.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. The butterfly effect changed something thousands of yes. Okay. Of course. I see. Of course. So him stepping on the butterfly made them lose the game. Yes.

SPEAKER_04

It's a little bit muddied at the end.

SPEAKER_01

No, I think it's great. I'm just figuring out the thing. It's like watching um like the fountain. You know? Or tree of life.

SPEAKER_04

It gives you a lot to think about. You have to kind of it it demands a second viewing.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, it's less of like a traditional story-driven narrative, and it's more of like uh a meditation on you know what it means to be like a superstar basketball player. Yes, yes, similar to that.

SPEAKER_04

As far as your question about why did the lady give him the book, what was the plan? I think largely just to kind of send him on this crazy journey that would maybe fuck his mind up, maybe get him lost in the past, and then he comes back exhausted, you know? So he can't he can't finish in the in the second half.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, also the the uh and all changed mentally forever. And the old woman also said, like, you know, I've been here for maybe like a hundred years, two hundred years, three hundred years. So obviously she has a sense of She's an ancient woman.

SPEAKER_01

And and how can we even hope to dissect their motivations of these like beings that are grander than humanity? You know, it's like we we we want to like ask God why he makes the decisions he makes. Yeah, she's like a pagan witch.

SPEAKER_04

Yes, and she sent him maybe she knew what was going to happen in the basketball game, sent him back and see what happens. Fantastic. Or maybe it's all just happening at once because time is a flat circle. Time's a flat circle.

SPEAKER_06

I also like how Victor writes in the diary too. Because he's kind of just like, hi, it's me, Victor. I'm very relaxed right now.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, he writes like a 12-year-old girl.

SPEAKER_06

I'm sitting on a bed.

SPEAKER_04

He's got his feet, he's wiggling his toes. Yes, he's comfortable.

SPEAKER_01

I think this is a worthy, glorious sequel to the basketball diaries starring Leonardo DiCaprio. Whoa.

SPEAKER_06

I would never have guessed that.

SPEAKER_01

Honestly, it doesn't make any sense. There's one other like huge star that's like plays second in the movie. Who would you guess that is? Uh when was the movie made? 95.

SPEAKER_04

Is it a Wahlberg? It is.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Is it Mark Wahlberg?

SPEAKER_04

It's Mark Wahlberg.

SPEAKER_06

Whoa. Yeah. He literally in the movie says, Don't talk about my mother like that.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, I should have put that in, but I didn't know. I never seen the movie.

SPEAKER_01

Alright, so we're gonna kind of piecemeal describe not long form, just the general strokes of Is there a scene in that movie where like Leonardo DiCaprio's talking to his mom through like a door?

SPEAKER_04

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

So you've seen this on like TikTok or something. Yes, I've seen that scene. Okay. I did not know that was from there. They're a group of Catholic schoolboys who play basketball and like get into trouble in the city together. Um Michael Imperioli is dying in a hospital room, and uh when he dies, kind of like you know, it's like this meditation on like they're playing basketball in the in the rain and there's like slow music playing. And then Leonardo DiCaprio says, Did I ever tell you about the first time I did heroin? And then it's just like going down a water slide of like every trope of like sad movie you can think of.

SPEAKER_06

It's like Requiem for a Dream. We've said it before, but it's like it gets like Requiem for a Dream levels, like he like takes it in the ass in like a public restroom for like a hit. He starts doing this voice that's like drugs, you know.

SPEAKER_04

So I think I wrote a pretty faithful sequel. Yeah, it's exactly right.

SPEAKER_01

Spiritually, spiritually, yeah. Um, there's actually a lot of movies about basketball tangentially, um, that are essentially like not really about basketball, but involve basketball. Um, I did just like search for on Google movies with basketball in the title, and it would not provide me a list. Everything that came up was just great basketball movies. Yeah, and then it was like white men can't jump.

SPEAKER_06

Did you try to make it Chinese?

SPEAKER_01

Uh yeah. Tell me about Chinese basketball. Well, we might talk a little bit about Chinese basketball. We got Yao Ming. Of course. Um, I did find basketballforcoaches.com, which I I tend to go to at least like twice a week. Um, has a list of ninety-eight basketball movies that every coach should watch. That's a lot.

SPEAKER_03

That is a lot of movies.

SPEAKER_01

Is Space Jam on there? Space Jam is on there, of course. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Um, I think I want to focus on like, I don't know, like the Rules or practice instead of watching 98 basketball themed films.

SPEAKER_04

Why don't you watch some film of the team you're playing next week?

SPEAKER_01

Um, it's it is like I was like, why did they pick 98? What why is that number significant anyway? It's all of them. And I think it's just every movie that in some way has basketball in it.

SPEAKER_06

That's really funny. They should have just done 50, but can continue.

SPEAKER_01

I just want to read um you some of the descriptions of these movies, and we'll have a little discussion about it. There's no like game here really. It's just um I'm starting from 90. Well, I w how do I win? Um, just by being hilarious. Oh boy. Oh boy. So this is Bobby is a girl who's pretty talented in basketball. But because she's a girl, and it's the 1960s, she can't really play for the team she wants to be in. Luckily, she has kind of boy-like features. So one day when a group of guys sees her play, they ask her to be on their college team. Of course, they thought he was a guy at that time. So now that she's playing It sounds like she's the man.

SPEAKER_02

It does sound like she's the man.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but it's basketball. Yeah. So now that she's playing on an all-boys basketball team, she's also harboring a shocking secret. I also just love whoever wrote this has no concept of how to write a sentence. Um What do you think that movie might be called? Luck of the Irish.

SPEAKER_06

That better be on there. Um Scott Tucker Must Die.

SPEAKER_01

It's called Jumping for Joy. Oh fuck. I can't say I've heard of that one. It came out in 2002, produced by Stepping Stones uh Entertainment. This this movie is called Hu ist Fred. Is it German? The title means Where is Fred? It's a German movie about Fred. Just a regular old dude who proposes to his girlfriend, but instead of saying yes, she leaves the decision to her son. Now the son is quite spoiled, and in order for him to agree, Fred has to get a basketball from the son's favorite team. Uh so Fred pretends to be handicapped fan in a wheelchair. So he can get closer to the ball.

SPEAKER_06

Wow, what a German idea to get closer to someone, pretending to be handicapped. That was his first thing. Hmm. Wow. What year is this? Is it before the Berlin Wall fell or 2006. Okay. So right around then. I hate it.

SPEAKER_01

I haven't seen it, I haven't heard of it. Have either of you heard of Guarding Eddie? No.

SPEAKER_06

No.

SPEAKER_01

18-year-old Eddie sneaks to Los Angeles to fulfill his dream of playing for the LA Clippers. But he has a developmental disability, so reaching his dreams won't be as easy as he initially thought. And then he meets Mike, a former pro. The two form a friendship as Mike tries to help Eddie.

SPEAKER_06

No, I haven't heard of it, but um, if he's got a debilitating mental illness, he should uh get into politics. Whoa.

SPEAKER_04

He's taking big shots today.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you I don't know if you can say that. On this you can. Okay, let's get away from something political, and uh I'll tell you a little bit about this next movie. Luck of the Irish. An American professional basketball player who is playing in Israel befriends an Israeli sports journalist. Oh boy. The two share a love for basketball, and this breaks the culture barrier as they both come to develop a friendship despite their contrasting backgrounds. They in turn learn to respect each other's cultures.

SPEAKER_04

Wait, what are their contrasting backgrounds? I thought you said they were both Israeli.

SPEAKER_01

One is American.

SPEAKER_04

So basically the same thing.

SPEAKER_06

Uh is it called Holatka Hoops or something? It's called an American citizen.

SPEAKER_01

You know, it looks like No, that can't be. I was gonna say, it looks like the guy playing the Israeli is uh uh Al Pacino, but I it can't be.

SPEAKER_06

I you never know. Maybe it's like one of those like funded like Israeli government movies. It probably is to like get their basketball. He's like, oh I got you.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, this is so different of being uh different country.

SPEAKER_03

Oh man, I'm trapped in a freaking contract by Sony Pictures. I gotta I gotta do three Israeli movies in here This wasn't about basketball.

SPEAKER_04

It freaking sucks.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, it freaking sucks.

SPEAKER_04

Imagine having to bridge the cultural divide between Israel and America. Wow, that must be hard. Yeah, that divide them about like it's called Long Island. About like hummus. And uh and scuds. And scuds. Yeah, the Israeli guy teaches the American guy about hummus, and the American guy's like, here's a here's a hellfire missile. Yeah, here's three billion dollars. Yeah, and three billion dollars and free healthcare for everybody in your country.

SPEAKER_01

Um then they list a bunch of just like basketball documentaries, which I feel is like the best thing. Because it's like Lynn Sanity from 2013, Kobe Doing Work from 2009, um, Michael Jordan's Playground, Ultimate Jordan, Ultimate Jordan Volume 2, Year of the Yao. These are all movies? Yeah, they're documentaries? Yeah. This one is this is this is kind of what really got me going on this. This movie stars Vincent D'Anofrio, Tony Shaloub, Gary Sinise, and Paul Sorvino. That is a murderer's row of jowls. Um this is a remake of the previous 1982 The Championship Season.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, I know this. Yeah. That championship season, that that was a play. Um, and it was written by the guy that played the main character in The Exorcist, the priest.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_06

Yes, yeah. And it's like about these kind of like fucked up middle-aged guys going back to their coach's house and like reminiscing about the this year that they'd won the state championship or didn't win it based off of something that didn't happen. It wasn't very memorable or good. I don't know why I've seen it.

SPEAKER_01

It says after a few drinks at their old coach's house, things turn violent as secrets are spilled and intentions are brought to light. Yeah, yeah, because like they explain murder mystery?

SPEAKER_06

No, it's a murder. It's like someone didn't play for some reason and it cost them the game, and it's like their whole lives were affected by it.

SPEAKER_01

Imagine you go to your high school like basketball practice and your coach is like, Boys, I watched the championship season last night. I went to the local theater. What lesson would he have learned, you know, that he can impart to the kids from the basketball season?

SPEAKER_06

Probably like I need to get too close to these boys and affect them mentally so that way, like 30 years later, they'll come back to my house and cry. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Well, thank you so much for joining us today, sharing this great script with us. You're so welcome. It's nice to flex the writing.

SPEAKER_06

It was fucking awesome. That this was the first time that I've ever like got a glimpse into the magic, the light behind those eyes. And I was not.

SPEAKER_01

It's fading too, so you gotta get it while you can.

SPEAKER_06

I enjoyed it. Thank you.

SPEAKER_01

There was a moment when we were reading through it, and I thought back to you talking about doing improv and how you would just force skits that you were writing into your improv, and I was like, is that kind of what you're doing with this script with like the stoneheads and stuff? Because I was like, it feels like this is, but then he kept doing the same thing, and I was like, oh no, this is one whole script. Yes. But I thought Oh, you thought it was just a bunch of different vignettes, like history of the world part, you know, one. Yeah, yeah, I could see that.

SPEAKER_04

No, they were uh there was there was continuity in a way.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, there's also the scene you wrote where like Marco Polo is like trying to get everyone to play Marco Polo. Yeah. That improv scene you kept pushing. Yeah. Yes. I was that was good.

SPEAKER_04

I ruled with an iron fist at the UCB. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

You also had that one scene where he created vulcanized rubber. Yes.

SPEAKER_04

I was thinking about doing the printing press, but I wanted to do stuff where it's like these things are on ancient aliens and they're like famously alien intervened historical moments. Yeah, and those are three big ones.

SPEAKER_06

There it is.

SPEAKER_04

The big one that I wanted to put in that I felt like this has to be a whole other like full movie is Atlantis. Victor Wemanyama trying to save Atlantis.

SPEAKER_01

That's good. Thank you all for joining us today. We hope you had a great time. As always, you can reach out to us at squeakpod on social media at squeakpodcast at gmail.com. We will be back soon talking about Treasure Planet with David Tilstra. Um, we will see you all soon. Bye bye. Bye. Squeakels is independently produced by myself and Jude. A great big help is before you go on to your next podcast or do whatever you're about to do, just hop over, leave us a five star review, let your friends know if you have fun. Thanks.