S2 E7 Higher Self and Intuition

In this episode, Ali and Laura dive into the concept of the higher self and intuition; what it means, how to connect with it, and how to trust it. Drawing from personal experience, therapy, Reiki, oracle cards, and moon work, they explore how tuning into your inner voice can guide you through life's challenges and help you find clarity amid noise.

They share a live card reading using the Higher Self Reunion oracle card, walk through a guided three-card reading for listeners (A, B, and C), and close with a message from the Moonology Oracle Cards by Yasmin Boland.

Whether you're a sceptic or a believer, this episode is an invitation to reconnect with yourself.

Key takeaways

1. Your higher self is your purest self — the version of you before trauma, social conditioning, and expectations shaped you. Some call it intuition, soul, or gut instinct.
2. Intuition and mental illness can coexist — negative, intrusive thoughts are not your higher self. Ali shares her experience with OCD and how her therapist helped her distinguish between the two.
3. You already have all the answers within you — external coaches, therapists, and tools can help, but ultimately they teach you to access what's already inside.
4. Silence is essential to hear your inner guidance — social media noise, other people's opinions, and constant doing drown out your higher self. Even 5–10 minutes of quiet daily can make a significant difference.
5. Start small — press your hand to your heart and ask yourself a simple question (e.g., "What should I have for dinner?"). Go with the first answer. That's your intuition talking.
6. Trust yourself first — other people's guidance is filtered through their own wounds, agendas, and baggage. Nobody knows what's best for you like you do.
7. Journaling your evidence builds trust — write down the moments your intuition was right. The logical mind needs proof; give it proof.
8. Cutting the cord is about releasing energy from anything that's draining you — relationships, behaviours, situations, or addictions. It doesn't require drama; intention and meditation are enough.
9. Closing message (Moonology Oracle): "Meant to Be" — you're on the right track. Keep moving forward. The celestial realms are on your side

Recommendations

People / Practitioners

• LOA Twins (Candice Matthew and Tesha Matthew) — helped Alli connect with and name her higher self "Selena" through journaling and drawing exercises. Also featured on Ali's radio show.
• Kyle Gray — creator of the Angel Guide Cards, including the Intuition and Downloads card pulled during the episode.
• Yasmin Boland — author of the Moonology Oracle Cards used for the closing reading.

Practices & Tools

• Oracle Cards — specifically the Higher Self Reunion card and the Angel Guide Cards (Kyle Gray) and Moonology Oracle Cards (Yasmin Boland).
• Reiki — used for inner child healing, connecting with higher self, and pendulum work. Alli includes a section on connecting to your higher self in her Reiki course. See more with Ali.
• Sound baths — referenced as a way to practice switching off and connecting inward. See here Laura’s Sound Baths.

Books

Ali's "Toolbox" books (two books mentioned) — covering external and internal tools for wellbeing and mental health.

If you need support please use the links below;

Mind Charity UK

https://www.mind.org.uk/need-urgent-help/using-this-tool/

Samaritians UK

https://www.samaritans.org/how-we-can-help/contact-samaritan/

Other support is available and if you would like to be signposted to other tools please email is at intwominds25@gmail.com and we will do our best to help.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Welcome to Instagram and I like the lights, lots, and lust that we get to sit just and lust that the ones that the ones that fail, and the ones that might be lost and flight that limits with that thing and it's just two friends anyway.

SPEAKER_00 0:22

And we're all more connected and just a quick technical start. If at any point you feel comfortable, it's okay to call step away or reach out to support. You'll find more guidance and help the links in the show notes.

SPEAKER_01 0:40

Once I've done some cards and then like shuffled them, and one's come out, and I've gone, no, that's not resonating. So I've put it back in, I've shuffled again the same cards come out, and I'm like, fine.

SPEAKER_00 0:52

You know what? Yesterday, no, not yesterday, we were on Friday now. Wednesday, I had a Reiki client, and whilst I was giving Reiki, I felt like I just wanted to pull them another card. So I picked up the back, and I as I was doing Reiki, I was thinking there's some inner child healing coming up here. And then anyway, I took out the pack, the bottom card was inner child healing, and I was like, Oh, I'd love to be able to just pull that. But anyway, I just started shuffling and then pulled a card out and it was inner child healing. So, anyway, welcome to the next podcast. She's got a great topic. Oh, she's got a great topic. ISL. That is pretty cool. So just before this, just before we we kicked off this episode, we're like, what are we covering on this one? Because we really do.

SPEAKER_01 1:36

It is raw and we wing it and we just sometimes we go, oh, next time we'll talk about that, and we have a list, but not often.

SPEAKER_00 1:43

No, very often, very listening to we do that. And so we just said then I said, Oh, what should we talk about? And last night we were out for dinner and we came back and we were chatting, and we'll we can maybe talk about this a little bit later on. But Nora discovered something about me she didn't know. And do you know that we are five years this year, no, six years this year friendship, because we met in 2020. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and it's five years we've been in business together. Five years in business together, and uh, after all of that, she didn't know something quite crucial about me, which we'll come back to later on in the podcast. But so we said, let's just draw a couple of cards, and I just said to Laura, I said, I'll get my cards because we did your card on the last. And I was like, No, something tells me it's funny. You draw cards and uh yeah, higher self reunion.

SPEAKER_01 2:31

In my community the other day, somebody reached out and said, Oh, I think this is just what I need, and they just explained a little bit about what they've been going through, and then I said, Oh, I think I might do some higher self stuff for you because I feel like that might be something you need. So maybe this is it, so I might just chop a little bit of this out and pop this into my community because we've taught we have talked about this on the podcast, but probably not for a little while. And so I'll read the card. I'll read the card and then let's just say what our definition would be of higher self. So if people are completely new to this concept, it hopefully it'll make sense towards the end. The oracle of higher self-reunion comes to you today because it's time for you to be reunited with the intuition part of you, your higher self. Our connection to our higher self is hugely connected to how open our hearts are and how trusting we are of ourselves. For some reason, often a heart wound such as betrayal or self-betrayal, you have disconnected from her or have not felt safe to connect to her for some time. Your higher self is a part of you that is connected to the collective conscious of the universe. You can use your connection to your higher self to access universal wisdom and knowledge within you so that you can become your own best coach and guide, but if only if you are open to it. She is telling you it is time to turn inwards for guidance instead of looking outwards. Other people are often influenced by their own agendas, wounds, and baggage, and this can impact the guidance they give. Nobody knows what is best for you and your life in the same way that you do. She's here to support you and guide you in every day. You she speaks to you through your intuition. She wants you to connect with her, trust her, and be open with her wisdom and guidance. She's telling you that you already have access to everything you need to know inside you through her. Trust yourself, trust your intuition, trust her guidance. It will direct you in the right path, people and experiences. Now I describe your higher self. This is my opinion. Imagine you're just born and no no one has had any influence on how you're feeling, you've had no trauma, you've had no social expectations, you're just in your purest form how you've come onto this earth. I think your higher self is really that version of you. But what's lovely, and in that description, is it talks about intuition. You could say your higher self is your intuition, and so that's how I describe it. So whatever the purest version of myself is before I came into this world, that's who I'm connecting to. You might call it intuition, like your gut, and think of it more as a body thing. I think of it more as a person, a soul thing, like a higher self, and I've actually put like a name to her, and I know what she looks like, which to some might be like, whoa. But if you want to think about it in less of a woo way, I would say it's your intuition. Yeah, it's your inner guidance, it's what you know, what's within you, you've got it, you know it.

SPEAKER_00 5:39

It's the purest version of self, and I just say it's soul, it's my soul. I just always have said it's my soul, it's my gut instinct, it's my intuition. And interestingly, as you pulled that card, I did choose to pull a card and I did show it to the camera and then realised people can't see because we're a podcast and we haven't gone to YouTube yet. But I pulled out the intuition and downloads card from the Kyle Gray, the Angel Guide cards. And for me, that is what your higher self is. It's that voice that talks to you beautifully, and they tell you the re about the real you, and they remind you who you are, yeah, and they give you that knot in the stomach when something isn't right, and they nudge you when something is right, and it's that voice you hear of um confirmation.

SPEAKER_01 6:30

And it's key that you just confirmation the right word. I think yeah, I think so. But some people might say, Yeah, but I think like negative thoughts, but that's not your higher self, I would say.

SPEAKER_00 6:40

When I was in therapy with my OCD intrusive thoughts, and they were very bad, they were the worst of the worst. Um, and I remember saying to my therapist, I'm completely lost now because I'm a Reiki therapist, and I get these like downloads in my intuition, and it's all really positive, and I tell people beautiful messages, and I said, and then on the other hand, I'm having these awful, crippling, awful, angry, frustrated thoughts, and negative thinking, and thinking all the most awful of things and about harming myself and all sorts. I said, How I feel like I'm going crazy, how can both be true? And that's where she really helped me and pick that one they could both be true, and they can both be very different things. One was my mental illness, which was OCD intrusive thoughts that was caused by trauma that was blocked, and the other one could be what I understand to be my higher self and my soul and my downloads, and both could be true. And what we need to do is heal the one to bring back the other and your belief in the other, and that's and that was my very scientific psychologist, psychiatrist that did that with me. Yeah, uh psychiatrist, sorry, uh she wasn't a psychiatrist or a psychotherapist, there is a difference that did that with me, and I'm like, that blew my mind in itself because she didn't judge me on my belief system at all. What she recognised is I was one was really impacting on the other, but they were very two different things. Does that make sense?

SPEAKER_01 8:09

Yeah, myself and you did some work with the LOA twins and received a name. I don't think that a name is necessary like you don't have to have a name for that connection, but for me, it definitely helped me. And I think what we started off by journaling and right and writing things down.

SPEAKER_00 8:30

Did you have to do the exercise where you had to draw your higher self with your left hand? I think it was Candice that gave me this. What's it called? That hand, if it's not your what do they call it? I don't know. Your writing hand and your non-writing hand, but there is a phrase and I had to use that hand to draw something from my higher self and literally let your soul draw, which again sounds really woo, but I went with it, and I drew and so Selena is the name of my higher self. I drew Selena, or at least I think that's what I it was it was a person that I drew, and she looks like you. Oh weird. Yeah, yeah. You've seen the picture of it, yeah. But I drew that obviously since I knew you, but I apart from I don't think she's wearing glasses, really similar, really similar to you.

SPEAKER_01 9:20

But I think some might be a bit like oh yourself, what where the hell do you start with that? But I'd say you always you're always getting guidance, and I think just by saying this out loud, and people listening to this, they'll go, Oh, so when somebody told me that maybe I need to move on from my job, or maybe in my head when I got told that, oh, I'm not sure about that person.

SPEAKER_00 9:43

I remember we were at an event and I had crippling anxiety, and I remember that day I was going, I was leaving because I hadn't been with Josh that long, and I was going off to see Josh up north afterwards, and I thought maybe I'm just anxious about the journey, maybe I'm anxious about seeing him or what have you. And I was really trying to search for what that anxiety was. Then I was at another event and I had similar anxiety. I just could not put my hand on, oh, am I getting anxious being around people again? And then I found out that someone in that space wasn't good for my soul, and that all came out, and I now know why I was feeling anxious. My my soul was telling me stay away from this, stay away, step back from this.

SPEAKER_01 10:27

And it's about reading that, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 10:28

And I did I ignored it. I thought there was something, I was like, why am I getting anxious? Oh, it's my mental health. But no, it was, and I believe that now.

SPEAKER_01 10:36

But I don't think you were ever meant to know what that was at the time for whatever reason.

SPEAKER_00 10:41

Because I had to go on that journey and learn my lessons, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:44

And I think that listening to this, you might have some examples of where actually your higher self, intuition, whatever you want to call it, has guided you. Yeah, so maybe write those down because like logical mind is always looking for evidence. So write the evidence down, don't question this, just go with it and feel into it. And I think the more you work on that, the more clear it is for you. I don't consciously go, Oh, hello Callie, nice to see. I don't do that anymore, I it's just in me, yeah, if that makes sense.

SPEAKER_00 11:18

Yeah, it's really interesting as well, though, because I've been in situations and when I've walked away with people I know, and Josh has gone, they're a bit this and that, aren't they? And I'm like, No, they're lovely. I'm really defensive of them. But I might have felt not great on that day or in that time or something wasn't quite right, and then they've turned out like he's been pretty spot on. And I'm like, it's I think he's more attuned than he realizes. But again, because he probably just he trusts himself. Yeah. Whereas I went from not trusting myself, so now I think it's oh, there's something wrong with me. I've been in like this. Where rather than going, it's the energy, there's something here. So now I realise that a lot of the time when I walk into a room and I'm like, oh yeah, okay, something's in here that's not good. I'm not saying they're bad people, they just not ripe my energy.

SPEAKER_01 12:05

Or it might be that they're going through something you just picked up on, whatever it is they're going through.

SPEAKER_00 12:09

That's how many times do I go out? I walk into a restaurant, or something will hit me, and then I'll be standing at the bar an hour later, and then someone will start talking to me, and then they'll start telling me their life story, and then it'll be really resonates with me, and it's like, oh, I do I just I just believe in it all. It just it's too there's no coincidences anymore. No, it's too consistent.

SPEAKER_01 12:29

Yeah. I am just gonna read the task. This was on page 66 as well, which I like, the number 66. Um, because there's a task at the bottom up here, so it says find a quiet place for 10 to 15 minutes. You may want to place an amethyst crystal near you if you have one. Close your eyes and imagine you're walking into a beautiful lavender field with the sun shining down on you. There is a tree in the field, you walk over to the tree and you see someone who looks like you sitting under it. She is you, but she's wearing a flowing white dress and a beautiful crown. She is your higher self. Sit under the tree, hold her hand, and ask her what guidance she has for you today. And then the affirmation is it is safe for me to connect with my higher self. I trust her, I trust myself, I trust my intuition to guide me to the right path for me.

SPEAKER_00 13:20

Love that.

SPEAKER_01 13:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:22

I just think your higher self is your soul and it's just leading you and it warns you and you ignore it. Yeah. And then sometimes you connect. And again, since I've connected and done the work to connect, and I do it through the moon circles, I do it through the Reiki. I sometimes actually say, and this is where people will be ready to get me and probably come someone with the white folks, yeah, is especially after the death of Grandi and then Nana. I like it's like I call them all in, it's hi Grandi, and then I'll be like, Oh, hi Selena. Yeah. And I literally do say, but for me, it's like that's I do need something tangible, I think, is the way. So it's like oh, I'm just gonna have a little connect, gonna have a little chat, and the guidance is just whether it's through the cards, whether I actually do a section in my Reiki course about connecting to higher self, and you can use pendulum, like and I'd show how to do it with the pendulum, but I do it very much with the cards. So when I do the cards, I'm like Selena, what is it I need to know today? So let me do that right now. So I'll be like, but again, it's like you're just talking to yourself, really, aren't you? So we're like, okay, Selena, what is it I need to know today? So if you want to know why I know it's Selena, is we did the work with them, the Yelloway twins, and they helped me connect. And actually, it was I interviewed them on the radio show, they tote spoke to me on the radio show about this, and then I had a session with them privately, and then it came, it didn't come up immediately. They knew it was an S, but they actually thought it was Sally. But I was like, No, it's definitely Selina. But what I only discovered, do you remember not that long ago? I was like Selena, if it was spelt with an O, I do spell it with an E. Not that I ever spell it, I never write it down. That's like unless I'm maybe journaling or something. It's anagram for Allison. Did I tell you this?

SPEAKER_01 15:03

Yeah, recently.

SPEAKER_00 15:04

But it's Selina. If Alison was Alison, anyway, let's see what Selena's telling me I need to know. Trust the universe. Because I'm gonna be really honest now. As we're talking about this, there's a few things popping up for me. Oh, have we pushed this one too far? Are we being a little bit too open? Oh, that's what about you?

SPEAKER_01 15:22

I'm the opposite today. I say it, own it.

SPEAKER_00 15:26

This is what I'm talking about, this confusion, this full moon in Scorpio. This is what I this is stuff I'm not bothered about anymore. But these little things are like I'm literally here doing this now, going, Are we gonna be happy about sharing this podcast? Like they're the thoughts that have come up. It's trust the universe. But also, I have been doubting a lot of stuff in the last week. Take a step back. Yeah. So take always three cards. Yeah, so earth and ground. So I've just said I'm confused. So it's just take a step back, don't stop over, stop over whenever that card comes up for me. It's take a step back from me. Not take a step back from anybody. This is always about take a step back from your thoughts right now. You're overthinking, trust the universe, take a step, take a step back from what you're thinking, get yourself grounded. Just for me, that is just oh, by the way, it's the trust the universe card, take a step back card, and earth and ground. Do you do this every day? Skeptic, not every day. And in fact, I don't use the cards myself that often. That's probably I've pulled a card this week. I pulled a card myself this week because I had a Reiki Kitan before they came in and pulled myself a card. But I don't do this every day. I'll do it maybe with the moon, so it's quite timely that I'm doing this now. But you could say sceptic would block, but you could read anything into those cards.

SPEAKER_01 16:39

Yeah, of course you can. Of course you can. That's your intuition.

SPEAKER_00 16:43

But you're using I'm using my intuition knowing that this is what which is my chat conversation with my higher self to say, she's just oh Ali, get on with it. Like I can hear her screaming at me. It's like trust, just get on with it, stop worrying about it. Overthinking, keep yourself grounded and keep doing what you're doing and be who you are because it will be helping somebody.

SPEAKER_01 17:00

So, do you just pick the top three up?

SPEAKER_00 17:02

You can't let me knock my energy out of that. You've got to knock them out. So, yeah, give them a shuffle and then just connect with Calais. Oh, sorry. That's not a good thing. Is that okay?

SPEAKER_01 17:12

You mentioned it.

SPEAKER_00 17:13

Oh, right. Connect with Calais.

SPEAKER_01 17:15

What do I need to know right now? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:24

Oh nice. So basically, your higher self is part of your angelic protection. It is part of your they're part of your team, if you like, of people that and spirit, etc., that protect you. And again, this is another podcast in itself. Wow. So Laura's cards have come up is angelic protection. So that's exactly what we're talking about right now. We're talking about listening to your higher self, and the listen deeply card has come out. And then I love this, it's one of my favourite cards in this deck. There is a what did I just say about holding a pendulum and listening? Because when you listen, that's when you learn, and it's the learning experience card. Flipping heck, Lord.

SPEAKER_01 18:04

One of my biggest problems is to not is to get so caught up in the human and the doing and not do this stuff.

SPEAKER_00 18:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:12

And I remember not long after Louie was was born, say six months, I thought, oh, I've got to get back into something. I've got to do something for myself. Literally, I was still on maternity leave. I needed something. I thought, I'm gonna get up, I'm gonna get up early, I'm gonna come in here, I'm gonna sit down and take a blanket. I took cacao, I had it in my mug that we bought from One Manifest that says those tin mugs that we both got given. Yeah. And what does it mine say? It's got one one one, something like I am Isn't it mine's trusty universe? No, mine's not. Something like I am magnetic or something. And I'd come in here and I would literally sit for 10 minutes and I'd do a meditation and I'd pull myself a card. And the things that came up for me through that was just like, oh god, what have I been doing? This is just I felt so much better in myself. I was manifesting things like crazy. I was listening, and this is the problem that we have when we talk about higher self. No wonder you can't hear her because we've got so much noise around us, so much going on in the world right now, so many other people's opinions, so much scrolling on social media, and this is not us criticizing and judging, this is us reflecting on our own behaviors. I do too much scrolling, I don't connect with myself enough. And when I do, magical things happen. Yeah, so it's just taking like five or ten minutes out of your day, first thing, maybe first thing in the morning if you can fit it in, or first thing before bed, and just connecting to what do I need to know? How can you possibly know when you're not like switching the noise off? Yeah, and that's what I always encourage people to do. My sound bass. I'm like, if you found it today really hard to switch off, no wonder. Look at the world we live in. This is like any muscle, we have to work at it. We can't just come and go, I didn't connect, so couldn't switch off, so it must be rubbish. No, you've got to learn and teach your brain it's safe to be quiet, yeah, it's safe to not be outside doing it's safe to slow down, it's safe to stop. Yeah, and I think that's a key thing to connecting with your higher self.

SPEAKER_00 20:20

Absolutely. Again, it's connecting with self. Yeah, that's exactly what it is. Yeah, so I'm gonna do something for the listeners. Oh, I was just thinking, okay. So, what I want you to do as a listener now is I just want to close you to close your eyes, and I'm gonna give you three letters and I just want you to connect with yourself, don't worry too much about your higher self or overthink that, especially if this is all brand new to you. And I just want you to say just whatever letter, I'm gonna give you a choice of letters and I want you to choose one, but I want you to really connect to yourself and really go, okay, what letter shall I choose? And just go with your intuition. Overthink it, go with what you're doing. Okay, ask you. So I'm gonna give you three letters and I want you to just go, okay, which letter should I go for? Connect to your heart, just literally put your hand on your heart, and whatever that letter is, you're gonna go for it. Okay. So I'm actually gonna choose the letters A. B. And C. Okay, so choose your letter. Give me a little moment to do that. Don't change it. Don't change it. Okay. I'm now gonna read you three cards. One's A, one's A, one's C. And this is the guidance that you need right now, or the word you need right now, or something to provoke a thought for you right now. So if you chose A, your card is cut the cords. Love this. So this could again, we could do a whole podcast on cutting the cords. In fact, let's do that in. I think we should do that. Cutting the cords is really about letting go of energy to things that are no longer making you happy, no longer serving you. Now it tends to be when we talk about cutting the cords, the obvious one is cutting the cords to relationships that don't feel good. So you've had a fallout with a friend, difficult relationship with a parent, not happy in the relationship you are. What you do is there's guided meditations and things that you can do, and you can just with a quick internet search. I didn't say Google where that's unlike that. There are other internet search engines available. And what you do, you follow the guided meditation, and what it does is it encourages you to imagine a cord of energy, and the cord will look like whatever it does to you, depending on the guided meditation, etc. And you actually imagine yourself cutting that cord with that person. I know people who've cut cords with addict with things they're addicted to, so that could be with a bottle of wine. I've actually done that myself in the past, but I felt like I was drinking a bit too much. I just need to cut what's my energy exchange with this. It's not good for me right now. Let's cut the cord. You can cut the cord with your own behaviours. Again, that kind of comes the same thing. You can cut your cord to something that's happening at work. That's not necessarily a person, a piece of work that you're really struggling with, and you've put all your energy into it, but you're not getting out of it what you want. Cut the cord to it. You can literally cut your cord to anything that is zapping your energy. But also a good thing to do is you've just spent time, an evening, a networking event. You've come away from the networking event, you're really tired. You just need to, even though it's been brilliant, you need to cut your energy from it. You're overthinking something, cut your energy from it. And you do the exercise and you just imagine yourself cutting the cord. What this is really telling you is what is it that you're putting all your energy into that's absolutely zapping your time? This is my intuition here. It's absolutely bleeding you dry right now. It's not good for you. You know it's not. You need to release it. Whether that's releasing it with the moon, that's what whether having the difficult conversation, whether writing it down, taking action, or just setting some intentions about releasing it, doing a cutting cord meditation. It's time to cut the cord.

SPEAKER_01 24:13

I think everybody will have already, even if this wasn't your card, already things will be coming up for you as this. Write them down. Just that intention, write it down, get it away, rip the bit of paper away if that's easier for you, and get rid of it, release it.

SPEAKER_00 24:29

Nice. I'm gonna invite you to for card B and say what are you okay doing that? Yes. Okay, so I'm gonna turn over card B now. Whoever chose card B, this is the card for you. And Laura is gonna use her intuition to interpret what this means for anyone listening. And the card is strength and guidance.

SPEAKER_01 24:51

Nice. And as we've been talking about higher self-guidance and just guidance for ourselves, I feel like if you're feeling there's a couple of things, if you're feeling particularly like you are feeling strong in yourself, you feel like, oh, maybe I'm I actually am quite confident in my own guidance. Oh yeah, I've got this, like I know where I'm going. But equally, if you're feeling like, oh, everything's everything's negative, no, I don't believe in what you're saying to me. If you're in that space, you probably need it more than ever. And so it's just trying to find that inner strength to to realise that you've got it within you somewhere, somewhere inside, you've got it, and it's just trying to find that little bit and then pushing forward with it.

SPEAKER_00 25:40

Everything we need is within us, yeah, absolutely everything. I've written books about toolboxes, I've got it in there, I've got my book in. Yeah, but I've written books about toolboxes and all these amazing tools, and a lot of them are external. I've read 50% of them are external. But the more work I've done, especially since writing the second book on myself, is everything I need is within me. As deep as that sounds, yes, I do reach out and get connection with other people because that supports and helps me. And I do use things like coaches and therapy, that's been incredible in me. But actually, what they've taught me is everything my a therapist has taught me everything I need to heal is within me.

SPEAKER_01 26:14

Also, that just know within you to reach out to get external help. So you will know what it is you need. So if you do need external help, you'll you know what that is. So, like with your toolbox, you'll give people all these tools, and you always say to people, they might not all be for you, yeah, but you know what you need.

SPEAKER_00 26:34

Exactly. And this is, I'm glad you just said that because I just want for anyone that chose card B, I want you to grab a piece of paper, and I want you to write the question down that has been bugging you and you haven't got the answer to. And I want you to write that question down, and it might be, what should I have for dinner tonight? Let's face it, we will never know. Oh, what should I have for dinner tonight? What should I have for dinner tonight? And then I want you to close your eyes, and I want you to just put your hand on your heart, and I want you to ask the question to yourself what should I have for dinner tonight? And you will get an immediate answer fish, chicken, whatever. That is your intuition talking to you, and that's the guidance is within you. So ask the difficult question, sit with it, sit with your hands and heart for an hour if you want to. Just connect with yourself and ask the difficult question Do I really want to be in this relationship anymore? What's the first answer? And that might be the question you don't want the answer to right now, but listen to it. And it's not to say leave that relationship right now, but think about the path you're going to take towards what you really want.

SPEAKER_01 27:43

And it's those little things.

SPEAKER_00 27:44

I've got to be careful with that guidance, but because I don't want people to go, oh my god, it said no, I need to leave my relationship or anything like that. But I think anyone listening to this will get the what I'm trying to say here.

SPEAKER_01 27:54

No, I get it. And I think it's knowing where to start, like the whole conversation about higher self and connecting with your intuition, guidance, having strength within yourself. It's all related. It's like, where do I start? That is a great place to start. What since we've been talking about this for this whole episode, what is it that you're like, God, if only I could get the answer for that? Yeah, that's what it is. This is the purpose of you listening to this episode. This is the purpose for you to just take that next step forward to just connecting with yourself a bit more.

SPEAKER_00 28:26

Exactly. So this third card is C, and I feel before I've even turned it over, this card is for not the sceptics, but people are listening to this episode and they're a little bit like, huh? What? Not sure about this. Not sure about this. This is making me feel a bit uncomfortable, bit of doubt. I don't know. This is this card is for someone who's going who's having a lot of doubt right now, probably about this subject.

SPEAKER_01 28:51

Or they're thinking, if I went down this route, my husband would think I was crazy.

SPEAKER_00 28:57

Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Or my wife, yeah, or my partner. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:01

I'm only going for my personal experience because my husband is.

SPEAKER_00 29:04

So this card is blessings and abundance. And this is the message for you. Whatever you are doubting right now, whatever you don't have belief in, if you do the work, you will get blessings and abundance. And I feel like I want to put a full stop right there. Because there's again, I have to be I know some people won't just they can't accept this, but both of us have gone through real heartache, you more than me, and I know we don't do the comparison thing, but you have, but I've not been through the experiences that you have, different ones, and we have gone through so much heartache, but we did the work and we have cut the cords, we have listened, we have got our strength from listening to our own inner guidance, which is those first two cards, and ultimately what has come with that is blessings and abundance, and it doesn't mean shit things don't still happen, and it doesn't mean that I'm not going to have a third breakdown, and it doesn't mean we're never going to go through pain like we've been through. But what we have both done through all of this is continue to be so grateful for the things that we have experienced for the healing that we have done, and we both have had so much blessings and abundance in so many different ways. You don't need to go and do your oracle cards or start sprinkling yourself with crystals or anything like that. You just need to know today that when you connect to you, when you listen to your heart, you will get the blessings in abundance and good things will really start happening for you if you don't feel they are right now.

SPEAKER_01 30:56

Is that my initial thought?

SPEAKER_00 30:58

That's can really I've got in my chest. That's gonna be that's gonna hit someone quite hard. So if it is you and you are listening and it is helpful, please let us know. We don't have to know, we don't need the validation. Let us know. But I feel like, yeah, I feel like this could let us know. I feel like this is gonna spark debate and conversation that's that's maybe needed. Do you know what I thought? We don't one thing we don't do is think we're right every time.

SPEAKER_01 31:20

When you said that, I thought to myself, for those people that are skeptical, maybe more logical, more in their head, maybe that has served you, maybe that has been a blessing. Yeah. But where is it not? Like where could we go back into our heart a bit more and less into our head? Where has it really not served you in your life? Maybe that's recently, maybe that's in the past, maybe you've just not listened to yourself and you've gone with what you thought was the right thing to do, but you've gone as a logical side. And just think about that for a minute. Of course, that you'll have had blessings in abundance from working the way you're working, but where has it been a bit of a hindrance for you?

SPEAKER_00 32:00

Yeah. Just a thought. In two minds, in two minds, isn't it? And again, like I can imagine some wondering this, oh, what a load of BS. And again, I go, yeah, and I get that, I get why you'd say that. I really do, and I'm not being arrogant in saying, but the belief has helped me in so many ways, and I've got such a fulfilling, and I'm so happy right now. And someone can say, Yeah, but it's fake and it's false, and it's based on this, and it's based on that, but it's my life right now, and I am genuinely really happy, and I'm trusting the process, and yeah, shit things might happen tomorrow or in six weeks or in six months or in six years, what have you. I know that this, even if I lose it again, because I did, I'll come back to it because it helps me, it keeps me focused. And any psychiatrist can dip into this and say, Yeah, but because this and but I'm not spending money on therapy right now. Yeah, this is my therapy, yeah, and it's helped me in incredible ways, and it isn't for everyone, and that's also okay.

SPEAKER_01 33:04

But I think we've got a level of trust in ourselves that we've had to work on as well. So it might be that you do find it difficult to just trust everything that you're seeing in front of you, to trust every bit of guidance. So I would say if you're at the beginning of your journey where you do need to do lots of healing, trust is a big one for everyone, but it's trust in yourself, not everyone else, trust in yourself, it always should come back to you first. Yeah, maybe we should have called it in three minds. It's like mine and Ali's opinion, and then whatever you think. Everyone's right. Oh, yeah, and again, it's yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:40

I feel like we should end this very nicely with one more card. Oh, and I feel like it should come from okay. I was about to say the heart healing, but I have a feeling is there another pack of cards over my shoulder? Yeah, and we had seen something earlier, and it is oh gosh, shoulder breath.

SPEAKER_01 33:59

Watch me for watch me for it's my turn to your turn.

SPEAKER_00 34:03

It's for you to do. No, no, it is for you to do. I haven't used these for ages. These are the moonology cards, these are some of my favourite moonology messages oracle, Yasmin Boland. They're gorgeous. I've got these, and I bought you these, they're just amazing. And this is a message from the moon for us all. Now we are drawing this message with the Scorpion full moon, but what is the moon guiding us with today?

SPEAKER_01 34:31

It's meant to be for anyone that can see.

SPEAKER_00 34:38

Everything happens in the way it happens, and it's meant to be.

SPEAKER_01 34:45

Some things are just meant to be, and it seems as though that might apply to whatever you're asking here. That doesn't mean you can just sit around doing very little or nothing and expect everything to fall in your lap. We're all constantly creating our lives, so you need to do whatever is necessary to steer this situation in the direction in which you want it to go. But move forward in the knowledge that you're on the right track, or this card wouldn't have come up. This situation has meant to be written all over it. Trust that and go with it. What's happening is good and right for you and your soul's development at this point, so keep moving forward toward whatever you want. Tuning into the lunar cycle can only help, so go for it during the waxing cycle, new moon to full moon. And release your grip and attachment during the waning cycle, full moon to new. Additional meanings for this card. This is part of your soul's journey. Follow your feelings, create the reality you're dreaming of, know that the celestial realms are on your side. The answer is yes. As much as an idea of destiny is a lovely one, it's becoming clear that we can create our own reality. How freeing and empowering is that?

SPEAKER_00 35:57

Amen. Amen. I don't think we have to say anymore. I don't think so. When a card actually summarizes the whole podcast. And the one before. And the one before. Right. On that note, hope you've enjoyed listening. Honestly, this is just our two minds, in two minds, and it's our thoughts, it's our beliefs, it's our opinions, but we love to hear yours as well. Something's telling me on this one. Please do reach out and let us know what your belief is. Take care. That's it for today's episode of In Two Minds, where life, loss, and laughter all have their place. Thanks for joining us on the journey. If something here inspired you, maybe think or something, maybe smile, then share it with someone who might need it. Until next time, take care, stay connected, and remember it's okay to be in two minds.

SPEAKER_01 36:50

Before you're done, just a reminder if anything we talked about into Dynasty.