Living The Third Way
Family is complicated.
Even the people we love most can hurt us... and we can hurt them.
Sometimes it feels like the only way to protect yourself is to either run away from it all — or stuff everything down and pretend you’re fine.
We get it. Because we’ve lived it.
We’re Shae and Adrian Misiak — Catholic mentors and mental health professionals — doing the hard and beautiful work of healing family wounds while raising a family of our own.
If you’ve ever felt stuck between cutting off a parent to survive,
or staying quiet to keep the peace… we’re here to tell you: there’s another way.
And this podcast explores what that actually looks like.
Here are some of the themes you’ll hear us talk about:
- the messy reality of family life
- navigating difficult relationships with integrity
- forgiveness that doesn’t ask you to forget the past
- grief that doesn’t require you to shut down love
- where and how God is working in the places that feel most broken
These episodes will meet you where you are and walk with you toward where God is inviting you to go.
You'll find honest conversations about becoming whole in real time, as we learn to love with both courage and compassion.
If you’re trying to build a healthier family than the one you came from,
or if you simply want to stop carrying all of this alone…
put us in your earbuds and listen along.
Walk with us as we explore what it takes to live the Third Way —
where joy is found, right alongside the hard and holy work of healing.
Living The Third Way
Latest Episodes
Is Tending to Yourself Sinful? Self-Love, Family Wounds, and the Catholic Case for Interior Attentiveness
Something one participant said near the end of their first group cohort stopped Shae and Adrian in their tracks: tending to the self doesn't just feel selfish — it feels sinful. In this episode, they unpack why that belief is ...
Embracing Conflict in Marriage: The Power of Self-Gift and Vulnerability
Discover how fighting can be a gateway to deeper intimacy and growth in marriage. Shae and Adrian share raw stories, frameworks, and spiritual insights on how conflict, when approached with tenderness and self-awareness, transforms into a gift ...
Self-Reliance Is a House of Cards: Why “manifesting” can’t save you and what actually can
Self-reliance often begins as survival and slowly becomes a prison.In this episode of Living the Third Way, Shae and Adrian explore how self-reliance forms in families where it wasn’t safe to struggle, need help, or fail. What begins as ...
Self-Stewardship, Not Self-Improvement: What If This Year Is an Experiment?
The start of a new year often brings resolutions, pressure, and quiet disappointment when we don’t live up to our plans. But what if there’s a different way to begin?In this episode, we propose an alternative to self-improvement: self...
Healing From Within: What the Incarnation Teaches Us About Being Human
At Christmas, we celebrate a God who does not heal from a distance, but enters fully into our humanity. In this episode, we explore what the Incarnation reveals about the way real healing unfolds — not through bypassing emotion, body, or relati...