Casually Celebrating: Birthday Special

For this special birthday episode, my siblings step in to share stories about me, reflect on our upbringing, give you a new perspective. and open up about their own spirals. It’s honest, nostalgic, and a little chaotic, just how we like it.

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Transcript

Intro

SPEAKER_02 0:04

Hello, we are here with casually celebrating Julie Bishop. Um, we are Julie Bishop's uh siblings. We are kind of tall in this world, and uh we're here to break it down for you. Uh we're gonna talk a little bit about some of the topics Julie has talked about in her podcast. We're gonna give you some uh insider information about Julie that she maybe won't share on her own, but we will definitely share for you. Um and we'll also, of course, talk about what we are personally casually spiraling about. Um, you know, some of the people uh around Julie don't always agree with or you know understand what she's saying, but we all do, and we're going to uh explore some of the topics she has. So I uh my name is Laura I am Julie's oldest sister.

SPEAKER_03 0:53

And I'm Jenny, I'm Julie's. So I'm the middle sister. I'm still older than Julie, but I'm the middle one.

SPEAKER_01 1:01

I'm Elise. I am Julie's oldest neighbor.

SPEAKER_00 1:07

And I'm Jamie, I'm the second pseudo-sibling, the second youngest as well. So we're

Stories from Childhood

SPEAKER_00 1:15

gonna start off by talking about some fun uh stories about Julie from the past. And Julie, um, you know, there was one episode where she talked about anxiety, and I had a lot of thoughts about maybe were the reason that Julie had anxiety, because we definitely bullied her a lot as a child in a fun and nourishing way that developed growth, and she's doing amazing things in life right now. And I think that's partially because of our uh strengthening ability uh in channeling that in her. But I will say Julie has always been a trooper. Um, a lot of our games as kids uh found a way of having Julie uh poor being the victim. Um I do remember when we decided to all be Ninja Turtles, uh, way back when there were four Ninja Turtles, and we got the first picks on who got to be the turtles, and Julie. Poor Julie ended out as Master Splinter, the rat, who teaches the Ninja Turtles all of their cool abilities. Um but we've had so many good memories, it's hard to think about all of them. But uh another one that I always go to is Julie and I went to one of our first, it wasn't our first, but one of our first concerts uh with each other. We went to uh it was a winter holiday celebration, and the lineup for a free concert at the time was amazing. It was Florence and the Machine, Imagine Dragons, and uh New Politics, and it was down at the piazza, which was an open-air pavilion down in the city, and it was such a great show, and we had so much fun. We were probably the only two there in high school. I think everyone else was probably like 10 to 15 years older than us, and we were like right in the center, and it started snowing, and it was a five-hour concert, and I just remember walking out of there, and neither of us could like feel our feet. We thought that we had frostbite, but it was such a fun memory from from back in the day.

SPEAKER_02 3:24

That's a great memory. I love that one. Um, I so yes, I think I agree with Jamie. I think that uh Julie growing up as the youngest out of all five of us definitely contributes maybe to some of her anxiety of uh you know uh getting the brunt of some of young uh the torments of uh our amusements, but I also think that it has contributed to Julie's development of her loyalty. So I will say Julie's a very loving person, and really from the start, uh we have had all had a very good relationship with Julie. Um despite the fact that every time it seems like she hung out with us, being the youngest, you know, we we put her through put her through something of some sort. So I know I can specifically remember um a time where we you know we like to play a lot of fantasy made-up games. And uh me, uh myself being the oldest, I was the queen. So I'm the queen, I'm the ruler, I'm the oldest. And you know, I know everyone else, you know, takes their spot in line. You know, we got princes, princesses.

SPEAKER_01 4:37

That has not changed.

SPEAKER_02 4:38

Laura is still the queen. I'm still the queen. That's still true. What has changed though? So at the time we made Julie um who we called Paige. Um, she was uh the person that we made her do things, you know. If we wanted her to go to get a soft animal, she ran and got it for us. We wanted her to go get a Barbie, she ran and got it for us. Um, and no matter what we did, no matter what she said, she was always there. She always wanted to be a part of the group, she always wanted to be a part of the fun. Um, and she always took it in stride. And um, that's still the case. She's still very loyal. She's still for the people that she loves, is always there, uh, no matter what they do for her. So that's my story about her from her when she was little. I'll say a good memory I have of Julie, it ties into ties into this a little bit. Um, is Julie and I, a family, we all um have been to the beach a lot specifically. We love the Outer Banks, and um I love kayaking. Julie um likes it, maybe not as much as I do. Um, but I always make Julie sit in the front of the kayak. We have a tandem kayak, so we both sit in, I sit in the back, Julie sits on the front. There's this one time where it was pretty wavy. There was a lot of waves. So, you know, we're on the shore, Julie's in the front, I'm in the back, and we're kayaking, and the goal is to get past the break of the waves. But they're it's very frequent waves, they're pretty big waves. Um, and I am pretty good at kayaking. So I'm good at if there's waves coming at us, for the most part, we're not gonna tip. However, what is gonna happen is the wave is gonna smack and hit Julie in the face because she's sitting in the front. And so the whole time, it took us 20 minutes to get past the waves, and we were hit with hundreds of waves, all of which directly hit Julie sitting in the front of the kayak. And the whole time I am just yelling, paddle, paddle, paddle, as we're trying to paddle so hard to get past the past the waves, but each time we get hit by a wave, we get pushed back a little bit further. Um, and eventually we did get past the break by some miracle. Somehow we paddled past. Uh, but anyway, that's one of my funny good memories about you know how Julie, she's a she's a great team player and uh and never never gives up, always puts her best effort forward.

SPEAKER_03 7:05

Is it my turn now? Are you done? Sure. Okay. So something about Julie when she was younger is she would go through phases where she was extremely obsessed with shows or whatever, uh, to a very extreme amount. She was Barney for Halloween for like six years in a row. She didn't want to be anything else except for Barney. So she dressed up in the same costume for so many years. Um, so it was Barney and Hannah Montana and Lizzie McGuire for a while. She like decorated her whole room um to match the theme of I think it was Lizzie McGuire. The lime green lune was Lizzie McGuire. And one of those things eventually as she got a little bit older, was similar idea was One Tree Hill. She loves One Tree Hill and she loves everything about it. And tying into that is she went to college in Wilmington, North Carolina, where they filmed One Tree Hill. And when we went on vacation there one year, she showed us like we toured all the important places where they had filmed stuff, and she had already been to these places many a times. And I don't know if Laura had already been there too, maybe. I don't remember, but it was my first time going to all these places, so that's um one of the memories that I thought of when I was thinking of what to say was when Julie showed us all of her favorite one trio places.

SPEAKER_02 8:49

So yeah, her her love of the film world started at a very young age. It sure did, it really did.

SPEAKER_01 8:57

Serious love.

SPEAKER_03 8:58

It started with Barney, I think. It did, yes.

SPEAKER_01 9:05

Um is it my turn? Yes, okay, so that did make me think um, because you were talking about Julie's um television loves, and the one that really struck me because you also talked about her Halloween costume, is the year that Julie was Hannah Montana for Halloween, and we all dressed up in theme with her. So Jamie was like Billy Ray Cyrus, and somebody was a paparazzi member, and then we dress up in all black and were her security guards. Yeah, so as much as we bullied her, she was also the center of our world, clearly. But my favorite Julie memory is a little bit more recent. I mean, obviously, there's lots of things I love from when we were small, and I actually do one of the things that I always think of is Julie went through a phase when we were small where she didn't want to play with us, she just wanted to watch us play, which was a little bit odd, Julie. I'm gonna be I'm glad you outgrew that, and now that you want to play games with us.

SPEAKER_03 10:14

Well, like Laura said, she always just wanted to be a part of the group, you know, when that was her way.

SPEAKER_01 10:20

You're like, these games all suck, but I will still want to be with you. Yeah, yeah. So I'll just sit here and watch. Our games probably had rules that didn't make sense. Um, but my favorite Julie memory is a lot more recent. A couple years ago, we went on a trip to Utah, and it was Mr. and Mrs. B and Laura and her fiance Ryan, and then me and Julie, and we were the team kids in the back of the van. And let me tell you, I have never laughed so hard in my entire life, and I don't even know what we laughed about. Me and Julie laughed at everything everybody else did and said, and we were just along for the ride, and it was so much fun. And I'm gonna be honest, it could have been like lame or whatever, like we were both there like without a significant other, and we could have felt like the eyeballs out, but we didn't. Julie felt like my partner in crime, and we had so much fun, and it was the best, and you're the best, Jewel.

SPEAKER_02 11:22

That was the best trip.

SPEAKER_01 11:24

It was fun.

SPEAKER_00 11:26

We were just talking about hiking trips.

SPEAKER_02 11:29

Yeah. We're gonna we're gonna round up another one. Yeah, Jamie and Jenny can join in on that fun.

My Siblings Takes on my Spirals

SPEAKER_00 11:38

All right, so now we're diving into some of the topics that the podcast has reviewed. So we're gonna talk about some of the fun topics that have been reviewed, give our takes on them. Um, I think one that I definitely connected with was the making adult friend making friends as adults. Um is definitely a, I feel like a difficult thing when you're not in that like forced environment outside of work where you're making new friends with people. And I think I found that uh you find people who you have to find the people that have similar interests in you. Whereas I feel like in high school it was so easy to do the like, you know, you could be friends with a bunch of different people who did a bunch of different things, but just by proximity, you could be friends with them. And as an adult, you have to kind of invest in the time that you're able to spend with those people. Time's another big spiral for me currently, and I'll get into that later on. Um, but having the time to actually spend with these people, um, I think is the biggest way to see success in making friends as an adult. Um, so finding people with similar interests. I went to, me and my one friend went to a fantasy ball um based off of a romantic book two years ago, and we were in a Facebook group that is still lively commenting. Um, it was a lot of fun. It was uh so cool. We had so much fun um and met so many cool people, but uh, you know, we're talking about the books, we're talking about other books we're reading. So finding people who have that similar interest in you, whatever it may be, I think is like one of the biggest ways that that I've found that you can make friends as an adult with random strangers.

SPEAKER_02 13:35

I love that. I think that's a great, great topic. I I have a I guess my way of making friends as an adult is maybe slightly different, which I currently live roughly the area where I grew up. So maybe this is a little bit different and not uh extractable to everyone. But I feel like in the past, uh pretty much since since school, the way I have made friends is through my best friends. So for instance, like I I don't feel like, you know, when I went out to, you know, not that I go out to bars anymore, but going out to bars, I didn't really make friends. And like I have tried to go to like run clubs. That's something that I'm interested in. I didn't, um maybe I'm a shy person in big groups, but the really the way I have made friends is by essentially latching on to my current friends and forcing them to give me their friends as well. Um so for instance, like Jamie, like, you know, you and I have been hanging out a lot recently. And so now I feel like I'm friends with your best friend Meg. And same thing with, you know, my best friend from high school. That, you know, now after school, we're hanging out so much, and I've met friends through her. So I feel like, you know, I start off with the initial really good friends and then um, you know, encouraging bigger group hangouts so that I get to meet, you know, a broader scope of people. Um and you know, that's how that's how I have, I feel like my success has been in finding friends as an adult.

SPEAKER_03 15:14

That's interesting.

unknown 15:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:17

I don't feel like I ever would have thought of doing that. But I think the like this episode that Julie had talking about this was like so spot on um from like my personal experience. And I think Julie's doing a lot better job than I did, like when I lived in Oregon trying to make friends because I didn't work in a place that had like a lot of employees and they were not my age. So trying to make friends like not through work was so hard. And I don't really think I did it because I didn't never really had great friends there. So I already feel like like Julie is doing way better than I did for sure.

SPEAKER_02 16:00

Julie's doing great. She's uh she has a task in mind, she's determined, and till she completes it.

SPEAKER_01 16:07

Yeah, and she's like a good sport about it. Like when it doesn't work, she's like, Oh yeah, that didn't work, and I moved on. Which is also like a skill.

SPEAKER_03 16:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:16

But some of her stories did make me laugh because I am definitely that basic millennial girl who does make friends through the run club. Um I will say I totally did feel you on some parts, Jill, because some run clubs are not for release. I went to I auditioned several. There's like five or six in Fort Worth, and I auditioned them all when I moved here. And I'm gonna be honest, I'm sure they're full of very nice people, but one of them before we ran, we had to stand in a circle and say one thing we were grateful for. And I'm gonna be honest, it was too many feelings for strangers for me.

SPEAKER_03 16:57

So it's like the Thanksgiving Thankful Circle. Yeah, we don't even like doing that with our own family and things strangers. Elise never went back their whole life. Elise is thankful that she didn't have to go back to that run club.

SPEAKER_01 17:14

So instead, I joined a run club full of fellow psychopaths who like to get up super early and do track works out workouts at like 4 45 in the morning. So I probably wouldn't recommend to a lot of people, but it worked for me.

SPEAKER_02 17:29

Yeah, that's a vibe. You'll find your people that also vibe at that.

SPEAKER_01 17:34

My favorite episode of Julie's was the Living Far Away one. I feel like that is something now that since Jenny has abandoned us in the Living Faraway vibe and moved back home. Um, it's just me and Julie, the last man standing. So I feel like she and I always like bond over that when we're at home. Also, I feel like it makes us the current favorites because it's like a special event every time we come home. So the parental units act like it's just a true celebration, and I mean they always have something planned or multiple things planned. And they want to like buy dinner and take care of me like I'm a child again. And I think it's the same for Julie, and so we always laugh about that, but I really vibed with that episode a lot.

unknown 18:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:26

Anytime you guys come home, I need to know the exact dates of when you're home because I need to block them off of my calendar because I don't know it at the time, but I know that every single day will be filled with something our parents, yeah, it's an itinerary, you know, even though I, you know, work, live a normal life, doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_01 18:45

It's basically a holiday when Julie and I come to town. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 18:50

Yeah, I lock in like one day. Like usually I start a text thread and lock in like one day as the like the family get together and then like hope for the best the rest of the time. Like there are things that I make, there are gonna be things that I miss, but this one's on the books.

SPEAKER_01 19:05

Yeah, that's a good way to do it. It's nice having a buddy since Julie's also the one who like if I go home for a week, I don't have anything to do but hang out with you guys. So Julie is in the same boat. So, like over Christmas, we went to breakfast a couple times. We everybody else has lives to live um while we're home. And so Julie is my buddy that I get to hang out with. We watch heated rivalry until three o'clock in the morning. It's great.

SPEAKER_02 19:39

All right, what's our what's our next topic?

SPEAKER_00 19:42

Uh well, I feel like heated rivalry is a transition into dating. And the trouble and the troubles therein. I feel like that was uh a clean transition. Um and I I hear you, Jill. It's a rough world out there to be in the dating scene. Um, but I also think that it's fun to meet new people. And that might be a singular opinion. Um, and I've kind of built my whole life around being a very people person. Um, but I love to see the different people and personalities out there uh that I find the experience of interacting with new humans to be exciting in and amongst itself, even if sometimes it ends in disaster.

SPEAKER_02 20:37

Yeah. Um as hang in there, everybody. Um I am a success story from uh the dating apps. So I did meet my current fiance on uh on hinge, but it getting there getting there was rough. Uh it was I was on apps for years before I met my current fiance. Um and it was a lot, and there was a lot of ups and downs. There was definitely times where I took breaks and said, like, nope, I need to break from this. But ultimately for me, I hit a point, I hit 2020, you know, it was the pandemic. I'm like, wow, I'm really not meeting any new people anymore. Um and you know, a long-term relationship uh with marriage was something I really wanted. So it was like, all right, let's let's get to the apps. And you know, I tried a couple of the apps. Um and I went through some phases. Uh, you know, in the beginning, it was a lot of uh like, all right, figuring out how this works. Um, but eventually something that I learned that I had to do that Julie talked about uh I think in her most recent episode was being picky. And I am a huge advocate for being picky. Um you know, if you're trying to look for a long term relationship, because me personally I was like, I don't I don't have time to spend dating someone who is not my perfect match. That's not what I'm that's not what I'm here for. Maybe if you know if someone's here for casually dating or anything, that's a different story. But I was like, I'm here to find my perfect match. So I'm gonna be picky because I got high standards for myself, which everyone should. Um so I became very picky and like when I was you know swiping, like going into looking at someone's profile, I for myself had several standards of like I want this. And if they don't have it, I don't care what the rest of their profile says, I'm going the other way. So for me, a couple of those things were I know I want children. So if someone on the profile said they didn't want them, totally fine, but they're not for me. So immediate noism matter what the rest says, swipes. Um again, this is just my personal, personal preference. I having been through um a lot of school myself, I just wanted someone who was college educated. Um, just my personal preference and just something I knew I wanted for myself. Nothing wrong with not being, but for my partner, that's just what I wanted. So if they weren't, I automatically swiped away. And there were several other things that I had in my mind um that I was looking for that would be present on a normal like dating profile that if they didn't fit it, I swiped immediately away. So now that eliminates a lot of people. And um so but I'm still being picky in that, you know, if you still get those people that slide slide into the messages and then start start talking nonsense, so then they go away too. So essentially, by the time I was talking to someone and it got to the point of me actually potentially going to meet someone in person, I tried to really narrow it down so that the time that I did spend going on dates was, you know, even if it's not worth it, or not, not that it's not worth it, even if it wasn't the match, or you know, at least it was meeting someone potentially who at least maybe was someone that I at least could have a conversation with and could have an enjoyable experience with, but ultimately it wasn't the long thing. So as I'm going through though, I'm getting impatient. I'm getting very impatient. And some people, a lot of people on dating apps are impatient. So it kind of became got to the point where these dates were getting shorter and shorter. Maybe they weren't dinner anymore, maybe they were just a drink. And then eventually I went on this one date where it was just for coffee. I don't even drink coffee, but we went to Starbucks. The date literally lasted 15 minutes, and we both left. And he was like, Yeah, I think we're on the same vibe that this is in it. And I was like, Yeah, I mean, I'm not, yeah. And then when I left that, I was like, it took me longer to drive here and drive home than the actual day did. So um, and then I reevaluated it and I was like, you know what? I need to like stop trying to make this like a quick in-and-out thing to see if you're the one and actually get back to, oh, let's actually have a real date to give this a fair shot. Because I feel like I was trying to make it so quick because I was trying to run through people so many to find the one that I was going a little too quick. So I needed to slow it down, actually go on a real date, and uh eventually we got there. Um, I and of course it happens. I was on Hinge and I was like, you know what? Hinge isn't working anymore. I'm gonna pay for um a different website. Um of course I paid for the website, and right as I'm about to delete Hinge, Ryan messages me and I wasted some money, got a fiance, so it's all worked at the end. Um but my all right, so sorry, that was a long story to overall recap. Pro advocate for being picky, but then I'm also pro to don't just rush through dates, like actually take if you're going to take your time to meet the person, actually sit down and have a real date. That's what I got.

SPEAKER_03 25:53

All right, well, I can't really say too much about this because Tim and I have been together for so long, I haven't had to do any type of dating in a very long time. So sorry.

SPEAKER_02 26:09

I think you should share the story though about how you you guys met because it's still due to dating apps.

SPEAKER_03 26:15

Yeah, okay. So we did meet kind of through Tinder because Tim's Tim's friend was on Tinder and my friend was on Tinder and they matched, and we like hung out as a group quite a few times, but we hung out as a group, so I met through Tim's friend, through my friend, through Tinder, and that was 10 years ago in January, last January.

SPEAKER_00 26:41

And this goes back to Laura's suggestion on how to make friends as an adult.

SPEAKER_03 26:46

I guess that's right.

SPEAKER_00 26:49

Okay, I guess that's right. People that are connected to your people, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 26:56

So, and honestly, like I mean, back then I was in college, I mean, I went like on a couple dates, but I wouldn't say I was ever like dating before I met Tim.

SPEAKER_01 27:09

So it's so different, you just like are in the same place as people, and then you're either together or you're not.

SPEAKER_03 27:16

Yeah, so I yeah, don't really feel like I can speak on this too much because even like you know, again, we were in college, so I feel like it was a lot of like Tim and I's like first hangouts were like group things.

SPEAKER_01 27:32

So Julie would tell you that you guys still don't go on enough dates, yeah. She would say that she would.

SPEAKER_03 27:41

So, anyway, that's what I got.

SPEAKER_01 27:45

Um, well, perfect. I'm a disaster, so I can take Jenny's time. Julie, again, very relatable. I feel like we had a lot of things in common here. Um, she and I were just talking about at Laura's bachelorette party on our hike, the um interesting phenomenon of being a northern girl dating in the south, which is really just a whole other can of worms. Um, and um yeah, so I will share um the you know, your episode about the ick. Um, the fastest I ever got the ick was um before a date started. Um I had driven into Fort Worth to meet this guy at a bar. It was super cool. Had like a live jazz band, and we were supposed to meet at 8:30, and this was in the winter. And at 8:35, he texted me that he was gonna be late. Um, and he wouldn't be there until 9 because golfing ran late. And I'm gonna be honest, it had been dark for several hours. That is just not what happened, sir. This is made up. There is no way that you were golfing at 8 30 p.m. in December. This is fiction. Was he golfing inside? Yeah. Um, so yeah, I told him that it was all good and I didn't think um we needed to waste each other's time, and I had a great night hanging out with the bartender at this bar. So perfect.

SPEAKER_03 29:31

Wait, wait, wait. So you stayed at this bar and told him he didn't need to come.

unknown 29:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:36

Nice.

SPEAKER_01 29:37

Like, I don't need to hang out with him. He seems like he sucks. I was already there. I had driven there. I wasn't gonna like go home.

SPEAKER_03 29:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:46

Ali, I think that's great. Like, like I said, be picky. Clearly, you didn't meet the standards, don't waste your time. Have a good time by yourself.

SPEAKER_01 29:55

But I will say to bring it back to Jewel.

SPEAKER_02 29:58

Yeah, well, I was gonna say that's also one of Julie's topics about doing things on your own sometime and hanging out by yourself. So there you go.

SPEAKER_01 30:04

Yeah,

Watching the Youngest Grow Up

SPEAKER_01 30:05

but Jewel, that is one of my favorite things about you. You know, um, maybe I'm like bleeding into our next um item, Jamie, so you can cut me off. But no, you know, like when Jenny and I went to college, Julie was only like what 14 or so. Like she wasn't even driving yet. Um, and so, you know, at 14, all of us were still pre-people. We are not fully developed people at 14. And so Julie was the best when we were growing up, but it felt like we went away to college and then came back, and all of a sudden she was an adult. And I was like, oh my god, how did this happen? Um, and all of a sudden she was the coolest of us, and so Jewel, that is one of the things that I like just so respect about you is like you have no problem being your own person and doing the things that you're interested in and um that you want to do. And I'm like, I don't know, I'm very impressed by that. And I feel like it like really struck me when we came home from college that like holy heck, Julie like grew up all by herself without us, you know, while we went away and did our own college thing, and she became the coolest person I know, and it felt like it happened overnight, even though it happened over four years.

SPEAKER_03 31:38

Well, I would have to agree with that, Elise. Honestly, to this day, it's still which it shouldn't because as Julie talks about, she's 20. Is she 27? She's almost 28.

SPEAKER_01 31:48

28, real soon, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 31:51

Um every once in a while, something will happen where I'm like, Julie is like so mature, and it's still, I don't like I said, it shouldn't, but it still surprises me sometimes to this day. I'm like, oh my gosh, like this is my baby sister, but she's like, yeah, like Lisa said, she's so cool. And she did it did seem like that. That was a good way to put it. Like, she grew up, like, I feel like we almost like missed it a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 32:18

Yeah. And I like now I feel like kind of sad about it because, like, you know, like obviously I saw Jamie Moore when I was in college, and like he is two years older than Julie, and like Laura is older than us, so like you know, I saw her grow up, and you know, Jenny, you were in the dorm room right next to me, so I also saw you, but I feel like I missed so much of like Julie's like teenage years, and like I do feel like I missed out because she's so cool and I don't want to miss out on anything in her life.

SPEAKER_02 32:51

Yeah, I I do feel like Julie made a big jump because I, you know, when I left for college, Julie was in seventh grade, so she was still a literal child, and um I agree. I feel like by the time I came back to this area, she was a completely different person. So I think but I think being the youngest and being in that scenario has helped uh Julie get to where she's at now. Like, you know, her siblings all left first, so she was at home by herself, you know, by herself, of course, with with her parents and everything, but but she didn't have it anymore. So I feel like that almost forced her to grow up a little bit, forces her to get outside of her bubble, outside of her shell a little bit. You know, like it's it's a lot different when you're used to having people you hang out with live in your own home or live two doors down from you. So you don't have to do anything to hang out with friends, they're just already there. So now when everyone's gone, you know, if you want to have a social life, you have to make a lot more effort to make that happen. So I feel like, you know, that kind of set Julie up for where she's at now of knowing how to put herself out there and make that extra effort to be social, make friends, and date and all that.

SPEAKER_00 34:10

Yeah, and I feel like emphasizing that point is the fact that like not only did she go through that not by herself, of course, but like, you know, without the four of us who have known her since we little, Jill. Um, but she also like went to high school at a new school. So, you know, moving from a middle school to a different high school in a different district, like it was also now you don't even know the people necessarily that you've gone to school with for the past, I mean, what, nine years? And then hopping districts. So you had to reset basically all of your friends, and I got to see, you know, part of that being the the gap between in the two years between the four years of you guys to Julie. Um Julie and I went to prom junior year. Uh so I I got to see some of some of that in high school, but you know, I got I was there for her freshman and sophomore year, and then junior and senior year. So I mean, those are so pivotal years as you're becoming an adult, like that's really when like you get your license and you know you start making decisions for yourself and deciding where you're going to college and uh working at weddings. Yeah. That all of all of those things kind of coming together, I think it really does show in who she is as a person. And I think something that I'm always so amazed by is not only has she moved across the country twice, but she's doing it to follow her dreams, which I think is like such a beautiful thing. Um and you know, I think that it's uh it's amazing to see somebody who's so passionate about something that they will literally drop everything and go across the country to follow it. And she's done that twice. And I think that you know, having had all of those steps coming before helps set her up for success in that. And I think it's just it's amazing to me.

SPEAKER_03 36:25

I agree.

SPEAKER_01 36:27

It's like also I agree, it is very beautiful, but it's also like very gangster. Like Julie is like a badass, like she, you know, just goes to new cities by herself and like does you know, like figures out how she needs to make it work. Like, I don't know, that is like very badass to me. I'm very impressed by it. Cause like, I don't know, in like some ways, like I have like moved away, but like I have always like been moving with like my job every time I've moved. Um, and like Julie's so bold that like like she can go and have like the confidence, whether like she feels like she has it or not, like she clearly does, but like the confidence to be like I'm gonna figure this out and I'm gonna make it work for myself because I believe in myself, like that's very cool. I I mean I think about it all the time. I don't know if I would be that brave.

SPEAKER_02 37:20

Yeah, that's something I've thought about too. Like, I don't know if I could move to a city that I've never been to before. Drop, you know, drop everything and just move. Um not that it was it was not a last-minute decision. She'd been thinking about it for a long time and planning it for a year, but it's still going to a new place where you don't know people and you've never been before is not not something I don't think I don't think I could do that. So props, kudos to Julie.

SPEAKER_03 37:50

Yeah. I don't think a lot of people would do that.

SPEAKER_01 37:53

So you're pretty special, Jewel.

SPEAKER_00 37:59

And in Atlanta, she's still known as Lil Jill.

SPEAKER_02 38:03

So you made her mark there.

SPEAKER_00 38:07

You made her mark there.

The Siblings's Current Spirals

SPEAKER_00 38:11

Alright. So on all of our guest episodes, we have been ending with how w asking what uh the people are still currently spiraling about. So do we want to talk about some of our current spirals?

SPEAKER_02 38:27

Yes. Who wants to go first? Laura. I guess I'm going through it. So, all right, here's my current spiral. Um, which is my current spiral is a spiral within a spiral. Um, so this is rooted in some anxiety. So I hopefully some people can uh relate to this, but all right. So I am fortunate enough to be getting married in about two months, which I'm very excited about. And been planning this wedding for a year and a half, it's been great. And my mindset has been this, you know, it's only one day. One day, that's all that's not a lot of time. So I'm going to enjoy the whole process, the whole planning process, which so far I've been doing a pretty good job about. But I have been spiraling about trying so hard not to spiral uh about this. So I am trying so hard not to let myself be stressed or have anxiety about wedding planning that I'm spiraling about trying so hard not to spiral. Um that's my current thing. Um, Laura.

unknown 39:52

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 39:56

Yes. Uh so it might maybe in the past it hasn't been wedding planning, but I've definitely in the past been trying I've been spiraling about trying not to spiral. So uh that's what I'm working on currently.

SPEAKER_00 40:14

All right, I'll Jamie. I'll go. I have been spiraling about time. Um, and this has been a really big concern for mine because I have been on a health journey, which is great, but it has left me with less time in the day, not only adding in exercise, but I used to be a terrible insomniac and sleep maybe two hours a night. And the loss of now sleeping better uh is losing those hours of the day where I was productive and I could do things, and now it feels like I'm short six hours a day and I'm constantly trying to catch up on things that I feel like I should have done before, when probably most people wouldn't have done that or had that time anyway. Um and it's about time management and being more effective with the time on hand, but it's something that I'm definitely spiraling about because I feel like I'm less productive, even if I don't know if it always shows that I'm less productive, but I know that there's time that I'm not using that I used to use. So yeah, I think it's the spiral in my own head, but spent eating a lot of time on top of that, which is then eating more time out of my day. So it's self-destructive spiraling.

SPEAKER_03 41:42

Well, sleeping is good. So it's good that you're sleeping more.

SPEAKER_01 41:48

The official statement from Jenny sleep is good. Is being productive towards your health. That's what I told him. I was like, even if he feels like he's working less, he is working better. Yeah, his brain is rested. Whether you notice it yet or not, yeah, your work and all of your parts of your life are better than they were when you weren't sleeping. Yes.

SPEAKER_04 42:16

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 42:17

Making a face at us. Alright, Elise, you go next. Me next. Um, okay, so my spiral is about work because my whole life is about work, and that's um a summary of my spiral. Um, I like I kind of said earlier, I like really love my job so much that like I've moved across the country for it twice. Um, and I do like really, really love it, and I feel very grateful to have it, and I have a boss who's like really supportive and wants me to like grow in my job, but I um have felt like the last kind of like three or so months, like I've been in like a huge rut with work, and not even like professionally, like I've had like opportunities and like a promotion and like that type of thing, but just like fulfillment-wise, like I don't really feel fulfilled by my job the way that I used to, and I don't really know why, or if this is like temporary because I'm stressed, because I like have like more opportunities and more things on my plate, or but yeah, I basically feel like very ungrateful about it because I feel like I've been given a lot with this job and I'm not appreciating it enough, and I should be appreciating it more. But also, I feel very unfulfilled by my job right now, and it's causing me a lot of anxiety because I have never been that way. I've always been a person who's like mission driven. Um, and so yeah. Given myself um like uh basically eight months window to like figure out if this is a funk or if I need to like figure out how to do something different or better, you know, whether that's like just like making a big change or just a little change or what that means. But I've set a deadline for myself for the end of September to like reassess where I'm at, and it's kind of even though I have the deadline, it's been making me freak out a lot because this is like the first time in my adult life that I haven't loved my job and I built my whole life around this job, so that is mildly terrifying.

SPEAKER_03 44:39

Um, I have a question about this. Yes, why did you give yourself to the end of September?

SPEAKER_01 44:45

Um, well, our world championship show is in August, so I know that in July and August I will be deeply stressed and I don't want to like make a decision really before then, you know. Okay. But I feel like to the other side of the world show to be able to like look at it with a clean mind. Like one, like I'm not used to my new like role yet. So some of it could just be a learning curve. So I don't want to decide too much before the world show because I think I'm not used to my job yet. Yeah. I also don't want to set a deadline that's like at the world show because that is like I love it and I actually love the events a lot and I love that kind of like manic energy of it, but I also know that I like that is the most stressful time of the year, so I know I should make a decision before or during that process.

SPEAKER_03 45:34

So okay, I was just curious.

SPEAKER_02 45:39

I I feel like Elise, your spiral could be a whole up or should be a whole episode.

SPEAKER_01 45:44

There's a lot to unpack there.

SPEAKER_02 45:46

Um, and I feel like just to very briefly comment, I feel like at some point in everyone's life they have those feelings in a job. Um, but I feel like a lot of people do have that feeling at some point, but I feel like not everyone knows the pleasure of having a job that they love, uh, which I think is great that you know you know how it should feel um to have a job you love. So I hope you figure that out. Keep us updated. And uh, you know, Julie, maybe maybe you should have Elise on as a guest, or we can do another one of these because we can break that topic down.

SPEAKER_01 46:30

Or I can run away from my job to visit you, Julie, in Los Angeles.

SPEAKER_02 46:34

That works, or a really prolonged hiking trip with all the siblings.

SPEAKER_03 46:39

Perfect, Jenny? Okay, um I think I have like kind of two things to say. The one is kind of similar, I mean, like in a way, maybe to Elise's because it's about work, but I think um I've been spiraling a little bit about like other people at work half-assing a lot of things. And I saw this thing the other day, and I'm probably gonna mess it up a little bit. I don't remember all of it. It was just like on Instagram or something, but it was like the people that care the most about their jobs are the ones that suffer the most because they like usually take on more and um you know, obviously put more into it, so they like uh carry it around with them more. If I'm I may not be making any sense at all, but makes sense. So I've been thinking about that, and I just feel like um I've been frustrated with a lot of other people just like half-assing everything and just expecting somebody else to like finish what they started, I guess. Um the other more funny thing is I was when I was when we were coming up with this topic on what to say, I was like thinking about things and I'm like, is this supposed to be like is spilaring always supposed to be like a bad thing? Cause then I was like, obviously, like I've always spilaring recently about heated rivalry because I can't stop thinking about it. Um and how the next season doesn't come out for like a full year, so that sucks. What the hell? Yeah, anyway, I think spilering does not always have to be a bad thing. That's what I was like trying to decide when I was like, what am I gonna say for the segment that we're gonna talk about? Um anyway.

SPEAKER_02 48:27

That's I mean, one of my spirals is that I don't have enough time in the day to read all the books that I want to read. So yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:36

And if you slept four hours less a night, you would have that time. I would have that time.

SPEAKER_04 48:44

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 48:46

Yep.

Conclusion

SPEAKER_01 48:50

Well, Jenny, maybe you brought us to a perfect place to end on because I like the idea of spiraling in a good place. And Julie, that's what I hope for you on your birthday. That you are spiraling to somewhere great, and I feel so confident that you are because again, I I don't think I believe in very many people as much as I believe in you, and so yeah, Jenny's brought us to the perfect place. The cottage. Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 49:23

We're here, we've made it.

SPEAKER_02 49:32

Okay, all right. Well, Julie, we're all very proud of you, and we love we love what you've accomplished with not only this podcast and your moving and your career, but every aspect of your life.

SPEAKER_01 49:45

We love ya, and all the things you're still gonna accomplish. Yeah, we can't wait to see. We hope you let us be along for the ride, even though we're way less cool than you.

SPEAKER_00 49:56

And happy birthday. We hope that you have a great birthday and enjoy the day.

SPEAKER_01 50:02

Yes. You're so much closer to being old like the rest of us.

unknown 50:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 50:10

Welcome to the old people club.

SPEAKER_00 50:13

It's so hard.

SPEAKER_03 50:16

Sure it does.

SPEAKER_00 50:21

All right, Joe. We love ya.

SPEAKER_02 50:23

Oh, hi everybody. Happy birthday.