Throwback Thursday: The In Between Age ft. Emily Gee

Throwing it back to the very first guest episode! I will be back next week with an all new episode... I promise! 

We have our first ever guest on Casually Spiraling and it’s none other than my friend Emily Gee!

We talk about meeting through Bumble BFF, dating apps, first-date hot takes, horrid dating stories, and what it’s like navigating friendships, dating, and life in our in-between age. From doing things “for the plot” to Cosmo quizzes and unhinged spirals, this episode has a little bit of everything.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:24

Welcome to Casually Spiraling with me, Julie Bishop, just a girl in this world trying to make sense of life, dating, money, relationships, identity, culture, you know, all the things. I've learned that my thoughts don't always land with the people around me. So I'm here to break it all down, talk it out, probably over share, and maybe find some who don't think I'm totally crazy after all. Welcome back, everyone. Today I am so excited because this is a very special episode. Because today we have our first ever guest on casually spiraling. She is hot, she's funny, she's successful, she's the baddie of them all. It's Emily.

SPEAKER_01 1:10

I love that intro. Wow.

SPEAKER_03 1:12

Thank you. Of course. But like back at you. You know, I love you. I'm so excited about this. Me too. I'm so excited. I wanted to have guests when I first wanted to do a podcast, and then I just kind of started it, and now you're my first. Yay! I'm so excited to be your first. I actually uh have a lot of Emilies in my life that whenever I am talking to my non-Emelie friends, they get confused at which Emily I'm talking about, and I have to explain which Emily. And the week of your birthday is the same week that my other Emily friend sent me a candle, and so I posted a picture of you, and your your hat was kind of down, so they couldn't see your face. So all my friends thought that this was my other Emily, who also has big boobs. Your boobs look so good to her birthday, your birthday outfit. Oh my god. She also has such good boobs, so they thought it was her. They're like, Did Emily come from Arizona to give you that candle in person? Because I posted both in the same week. And I was like, no, no, no, no. I'm my LA Emily, I'm my Arizona Emily, I have Emily in Atlanta, all over.

SPEAKER_01 2:15

Wow, I love that. Yeah. Like the best intro for me ever. Yeah. I'm just trying to hype you up. Yeah, that's what they they always say on these things. It's like, I just need you to come with me now and go everywhere with me and say that about me everywhere.

SPEAKER_03 2:27

I would love that job.

SPEAKER_01 2:29

Yeah, it's funny. That's like been the case my whole life. Like everybody's like, do you go by your like last name, first initial, like last name? Like, there's just so many Emily's like born the same year as me. So I'm used to that too.

SPEAKER_03 2:42

Yeah. Well, you own it, I guess. But should we tell them how we met? Because so if you guys haven't listened to other episodes of the podcast, which you probably should, because episode two, I talk about making friends as an adult, and I mentioned that I did this little bumble VFFs meetup thing, and that's how we met. So I want to hear your thoughts about that. And yeah, what did you think when I slid into your bumblebee up DMs and was like, hey, I'm trying to get some girls together.

SPEAKER_01 3:14

Yeah, I mean, um, so much like you, like I moved back out to LA earlier this year, and um just being like later 20s, it's which I'm sure we're gonna talk about, it's so hard to like make new girlfriends and kind of find girls who are looking for the same thing in the city and like different interests and things like that. And so I downloaded, yeah, I downloaded Bumble to do just the BFF side of it and hadn't really explored it that much. Um, but you know, I think we had matched, and then you reached out with an idea to get like a large group of girls together to do this event. And large. It was it was large, it was large. Not a lot of people joined up.

SPEAKER_03 3:58

If maybe it was a group chat, at least 10, and there were four of us total. And yeah, one of them was I made my roommate come with me.

SPEAKER_01 4:06

True, true. But I really like the idea. I think I texted you, I think we could pull it up, honestly. But I think I texted you being like, This is a super fun idea, because I had only done one off connects, like match with a gal, and then we both, you know, plan something, and it's just the two of us. But like your idea was so fun to have a large group of girls. Well, that was the idea. Yeah, have a large group of girls go to an event and like mix and mingle and make friends as a group, or maybe come out with like one friend. And I loved the idea. So I was like, I'm in. Um, plus, it was an event that was like on the street right below my house. So I was like, I'm off there. Anyway, um, but yeah, I was excited about it. That like that was my impression. Was I really liked the initiative that you took to like organize the group to do this and like the idea of it?

SPEAKER_03 4:55

Yeah, because I was like, you know what, some people may think I'm weird, but then they're probably not my people. If right, you know. And I was like, you win some, you lose some. I was like, what like I wasn't having success anyway. So I'm like, what is there to lose? I guess. Yeah. And yeah, it worked out and it was a fun night. I think we popped around, ended up in Jaminson, ends up some house party on Venice.

SPEAKER_01 5:17

Random house party.

SPEAKER_03 5:18

Like, okay, let's walk in.

SPEAKER_01 5:20

Love a random house party in Venice. Yeah, yeah. We're like, do we take this back alley to get inside of the house? And sure enough, yes.

SPEAKER_03 5:28

Like, look, there's an open door. I think we just walk in there.

SPEAKER_01 5:31

Walked in. And then no alcohol. I know.

SPEAKER_03 5:33

So we're like, those guys have white claws, let's go talk to them.

SPEAKER_01 5:36

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're like up on the roof, someone had like a box of white claws, and I think I walked up and I was like, oh my gosh, there's one box here. And the guy was like, That's my box so that you guys can have it. And we were like, oh, not us being those people.

unknown 5:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:50

Um, but yeah, it was super fun. And I think the night just like kept rolling, and like for me, that felt like a good sign for all of us of like, oh, we're gonna hang out again from here for sure, which we have obviously. Here we are.

SPEAKER_03 6:02

Another thing too is like, okay, you can like meet someone and be good, but them then hanging out with you again. Sometimes you meet a girl and it's fun, but then getting people to commit to actually seeing each other again is something that I struggle with. Not struggle with, but like people get busy and like it's harder to find it working out. But fun fact on that day was um, I think we started talking about that day. I think you asked me, like, so what made you want to organize this event or whatever? And I was telling you that I was just so tired of being a follower, like in so many aspects of my life with my career. I was just tired of waiting around for things to happen, making friends. I was tired of waiting around for things to happen. And I mentioned that day about starting this a podcast. Yes, you did. Yeah, I didn't do it for months later, but I knew like I had started the process kind of on coming up with ideas and stuff, and it was the first day we met that I mentioned it. Yeah, I know, and here we are. I know, it's so exciting.

SPEAKER_01 7:02

Yeah, you guys, it was just great. Like, we're all sitting around the table and we're sharing all of our ideas about you know what passions we had. I think we all kind of shared like it would be so cool to do this, or like it's a dream to do that. And you mentioned like doing a podcast, and I was like, life is too short, like you should absolutely try it. Like, just start filming it, even if you post nothing. I think we had that conversation, and um, and you're doing it. And I'm so proud of you, and I'm so happy to be here.

SPEAKER_03 7:31

Dad, you may be the only listeners, but Jesse Wade. Shout out, mom and dad. Yeah, we love you. This is a new Emily for you, right? I guess a new Emily because they're tired of trying to keep up. Yeah. Um okay, so yeah, so I just met you this year, first year in LA. So what were you like in high school before I knew you? What kind of girl were you?

SPEAKER_01 7:56

I feel like I was always like the athlete. I played soccer for 15 years and I played lacrosse for a few years. And when I was like very, very young, I was, you know, like performing and doing dances and like organizing little like shows with our friends. Oh with your freaking. Yeah, all the friends on the street, like at the block parties and stuff. And my parents had like the big like shoulder camera, and I would just be like outfit change, outfit change, like new performance every night. And um, and then I think there was just a moment where I got into soccer, and um, like my dad started coaching me, and then I played all the way through the end of high school, but um, I feel like I was just going from class to the soccer field and and then going home and watching like The Bachelor and Gossip Girl and waking up and doing it all over again.

SPEAKER_03 8:55

I did the same thing with my friends. My mom has a home video of me, and she has like her camcorder. And this is when I was really young, and I was like performing in front of the camcorder, and then I would run around, you know how the little screen that you could see? I would try, I wanted to see myself, but it's still recording, so I wouldn't be there. I'd be like, Where am I? Because it's like I'm behind the camera now, and I would be like dancing in front of it and then run behind the camera trying to see myself, and I just didn't get it. But I was like, I wanted to see myself on the case. That's so cute. I did the same thing, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:24

But like I would flip my, I think my dad's had like the flip, like the side lens that you can flip and see kind of see yourself. Yeah, um, and I would like always do that. Yeah, yeah. To be like, what do I look like? Or I think when I was really young, I would like talk to it uh thinking it was someone else, but it was me. Just talking to yourself, but yeah, so I feel like that is a good representation of of me, just kind of the athlete and um yeah, yeah, and now I'm in LA and kind of like re-exploring that artistic side of me when I was younger, of like the kind of performing and things like that. I think my my life now like allows me to kind of enjoy like the things that like little Emily loves. Yeah, which is so fun.

SPEAKER_03 10:12

So cute. I can so see how like you had that in you then and you still have you in you now, which is why I definitely like was like, I need to get Emily on the podcast because she just brings the best energy and like I see that that light in you. But uh kind of similar where but I did volleyball, but then high school, like kind of opposite, like you went the soccer route in high school. I was like, okay, I'm gonna do theater and like not do volleyball because you can only really do one or the other, at least in my school, because theater rehearsals were every day and volleyball practice was every day, so you kind of choose one or the other. Um but yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:45

Wait, how long did you play volleyball for?

SPEAKER_03 10:46

Only up until high school. So fifth grade up until high school. Okay, just for fun after that because then I was a theater kid. Oh, and now you play for fun too. Yeah, now oh, catch me on the beach bottle before it's in Santa Monica. Me and the only girl on my team carrying these teams, just kidding. Carrying the weight of the team on her back. God, my back is broken. Broken, broken. Yeah, stupid boys. I love hearing about your little volleyball adventures. They've been they've been a bride. Yeah. But um Okay. You mentioned uh, well, you just turned 27. Yeah. And I'm 27, and like kind of back on making friends, how we're kind of in this weird in-between age that kind of makes that hard. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:33

Yeah. Yeah. It just feels like an interesting time of life because when I first moved out to LA, I was like finishing up college and COVID, and like I think I was maybe 21 and made a bunch of friends out here, like in and around the work I do, but also like through who I lived with. And um now being like back out here again with you know, second LA chapter, I I feel like there's so many people in different areas of life. Yeah. A lot of friends are in very serious relationships, or friends have moved away, or you know, people are just into different things, different parts of their life. And so I feel like it's just been hard to navigate like who would have the same interests nowadays and also the same time. Yeah. And sometimes you have to, you know, look out of your current network for that and make more friends to like build the circle out. And yeah, and so that's been, you know, like I think us finding each other around Bumble BFF is a testament to like that you can find someone that way. Because I know I've talked to a lot of girls that are like, does that work? And oh, how do you find somebody?

SPEAKER_03 12:45

And like Trust me, I went on a few of those Bumble BFF dates before ours. Yeah, yeah. Did you have any crazy ones? Nothing crazy, but it they just felt like dates, like yeah, interview dates that you have with on like with a guy, but it was with a girl, and you're just trying to like be normal and make a friend, but you're what do you do? You go out and get a drink that's like normal, and you're sitting across from each other, you're like, So, what are your hobbies? And it's like so awkward. Where do you live? Where are you from? Like, what kind of music are you into? And it's just like I like I I always came off of them, and my other friends like that don't live here would ask me, like, how'd it go? I'd be like, it was fine, like nothing wrong with her, but like, yeah, but it like no, like, how do you I don't know, it didn't feel like making a friend. I don't know, felt weird. I always came off being like, That was fine, they were nice, but like Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:42

Have you seen like this brings up a topic? Have you seen like the there's some accounts on there of girls that hey, and like to their credit, they're very transparent up front. They're like looking for a friend who like will come along and just take pictures of me. No, I had a friend that like went uh actually, it wasn't in the person's profile, but they like it was on Bubble BFF, and she went to go meet this girlfriend, like just how you were just explaining, like you would have no idea, showed up, and like the whole interaction was like this girl was like thinking they were getting together on the pretense of her like taking a photo shoot of her the whole day. And my friend was like, Whoa, like I'm here to make a friend, like not be your photographer. And I was like, This is kind of like a crazy story of like the bumble like friend side of things. You always hear like the crazy ones with dating, but I was like, I've never heard of that. Yeah. Um, but so like credit to the girls who are up front, yeah. Like, this is what I need. Like, I don't have anyone to take pictures of me. Like, I live in a city where like that's a big thing. I need help. Like, I I get that. I think we should send her a dragon.

unknown 14:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 14:54

She knows I can phone up any timer.

SPEAKER_01 14:58

I don't know. Maybe there's certain angles that like she needed. I don't know. I don't pretend to know. But like my friend, like, bless her heart, did the whole photo shoot, and like I don't think they ever saw each other again. I might have to circle back on on that and get more information, but um I would that made me apprehensive because that was before like I was using Bumble BFF, and I was like, oh my gosh, like what if I end up on that? Yeah. Um, I don't know, maybe I would just like join in and be like, okay, I I need pictures too. I don't know. Yeah. Is this what we're doing? So awkward.

SPEAKER_03 15:33

And I am like, I have people pleaser tendencies, so I would probably go along with it being afraid to be like, uh, and just like walk out or something. I don't know. But yeah, that's so weird.

SPEAKER_01 15:45

So like tell us what you would do if you were in that situation. Leave a comment with what you would do. Yeah. Um, but yeah, yeah. So I haven't had anything like that by any means. Um yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 15:59

Yeah, yeah. But I also I have friends who just got married, but friends who are still single, friends, long-term relationships, buying a house together, friends who are like, oh yeah, in a year, we're gonna try and have kids. And I'm just like, I we are not in the same place as a life. But I love them and we're all still friends. But when you're making new friends and you have limited time, it's like you kind of do need to find people who you are interested in the same things because at 27. I always say this when I go out, I'm like, where are people our age? I swear everyone is 21 years old. Yeah, I'm like, do people our age just not go out or earlier or whatever? So I'm like, I'm 27 and I still want to go out, but also I go out and it's all 21 year olds. So is it like people our age? It's either like finding people who are too young who I don't relate to, like me hanging out with 21-year-old. I don't know really how that would go. I probably like we would have different interests or like maturity levels, but then like people in their 30s, they probably want to stay at home. So it's just weird. It's weird in your life.

SPEAKER_01 17:03

Yeah, girl, it's weird. It's weird when you hit like that after 25 era of like I don't know, me and some of my girlfriends have talked about it too. Of like, where do you go? I think there's been very few events where like or locations where I've felt like the youngest in the room. And I used to feel like that all the time. Like when I first moved out here, obviously it was like 21, so that makes sense. Yeah. Um, but now like it's kind of a treat. Like if I walk into a room and I'm like, like one of the youngest people here. Yeah. Um, I don't know, but yeah, like there was an event that uh we like had last week, I think. Um we had like a little masquerade event that was hosted at our house.

SPEAKER_03 17:48

And um, guys, Emily lives with like eight people. I also when I found out this about her, I was like, that must be a cool person because not a lot of people can do that. And I'm like, oh my god, a new girl over here. I think that's such a fun fact.

SPEAKER_01 18:01

It's it's a fun fact.

SPEAKER_03 18:02

Um and that it works out too. Good or new.

SPEAKER_01 18:05

It works out. Every okay, so this is like a little side note about this topic is I've always lived in a house with like many people. I need a front yard, I need a backyard, I need one or the other. Like, I just am not an apartment girly. Diva. Um, she needs she needs a yard. Um, no, but she the thing is, is like I just love, I'm a social butterfly. And I love always like having energy around the house, always having like a plan or an event or like something to join in on. And um, every house I've lived in um, you know, since I since college with roommates has been, gosh, I think almost all of them have been four people or more. I lived like four people, then I lived five people, and now I'm now it was just seven, now it's six people.

SPEAKER_03 18:54

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 18:55

And um it just lends a hand to like these awesome events and parties. Yeah. And I love that. I love that. Like I just I feel like that lights my soul on fire. And uh we love hosting it. You've been to some of these things, and it's so fun.

SPEAKER_03 19:12

And we're all so nice and like welcoming people, at least any time I've experienced that. Yeah. Did they all go to Vegas with you for your birthday?

SPEAKER_01 19:19

Yeah, so uh that's my roommates, yeah. My roommates did. Um, and yeah, sometimes we open our doors to have like other people host events at our house, and occasionally we'll be allowed to like attend them. Um, and one of the events was a masquerade event. Yeah. And the whole it kind of blends into this topic actually, because the whole premise of the event was like connecting with people in real life. And how do you do that? Like off apps, and that's been my me and like one of my roommates, and I I feel like you're like the same. Yeah. I have a lot of friends that are like real meets only, like whether it's a friend or someone you're dating or something like that, like real meets, real life, like let's get off social media, let's get off the apps. So I kind of loved it. This event was like black tie, it was like all masquerade, everyone was in these super cool masks. It felt like the um Hillary Duff, like Cinderella story, like scene where they're like, yes, and it's like no one knows who you are, but it's crazy because like it's still you, yeah. But just this part's covered.

SPEAKER_03 20:18

Oh wait, and then that's kind of helpful. Like, if you are anxious meeting people in person, you can, you know, there's like a little bit, right?

SPEAKER_01 20:24

There's like an element of that. You're aware. The lady hosting it um is like starting her own coaching business to like kind of I think it's like help people, maybe it's life coaching or something like that. Um, but she told us that the questions you ask, like when you walk around, the whole point is to like walk up to people you don't know, is to ask a question that's more than just like a yes or no, or where are you from? Or where what do you do for work? Like to get you off these topics. So they have to foster like more of a conversation. So some of them are that were asked of me were like, what are you most excited for in the new year? Um, if you could start like any fast food restaurant that doesn't exist, what would you start? Um things like that, right? That are like make you think and maybe that you wouldn't ordinarily share with somebody right off the bat. So yeah, and and again, if I don't didn't live in that house, I wouldn't have that opportunity. So just like yeah, it's just like these crazy things that happen and they're just fun. And honestly, need to start like chronicling it. And like I feel like a lot of people would be really interested in this because there's not a lot of people, especially our age, that are living in housing situations like this. Um so yeah, I think it's fun to like be in the house and offer it to like my my friends to come and enjoy too.

SPEAKER_03 21:43

Yeah, and you guys could chart your own little reality show, I feel like.

SPEAKER_01 21:46

Yeah, I think it's been talked about with previous iterations of the house, like previous people that have lived in it, but no one's executed it yet.

SPEAKER_03 21:54

So one day stay tuned. Yeah, it may happen. Maybe I'll just head over there with the camera.

SPEAKER_01 22:00

It's organic supported. And come be like the eighth roommate and be like, and I'm here. Are we shooting? Tell me your secrets.

SPEAKER_03 22:06

Are we shooting? Did you hear that Emily said this about and just start the job? Yeah, probably the producer starting the colored stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Stirring stuff up. So since you're like, you know, have this intention of like meeting people in person, did you ever use dating apps? Yes. Yeah. Yeah, I did.

SPEAKER_01 22:25

I did. I used, I feel like between college and like maybe five years, four years ago, I was using them like pretty regularly. I went on a lot of dates that a lot of first dates. I went on a lot of first dates. I went on a lot of first dates. And I'm sure you're a lot to say about this. Um, I feel like a lot of people have a lot of stories. I think that's what I've heard. I've I I went out with some really interesting people, and at a certain point I was just like, you know what? I don't think this is for me anymore. Like said with love. I think that there are so many people that have success. Like I one of my friends is getting married that met on the apps, and you know, people are dating that have met through the apps, and that's amazing and wonderful, and everything, but I don't know. I I'm the meet people in real life, and in the past four years, like I've kind of kept that mentality.

SPEAKER_03 23:24

Maybe I need to come to that realization because everyone in my life has met on Hinge. That's what keeps me coming back. Live update from literally right before you came here. Oh my gosh. I try, I I paid for Hinge trying to make it successful. And you want to know what happened today? I matched with someone, right? Cute whenever. First, I have like one match, and it's him. He's like, When are you free next week? And I'm like, I'm free Sunday, but then I fly out Monday for a week for Christmas, and I'll be back after that. He unmatched with me. It's the week of Christmas. I wasn't free the week of the world. No way.

SPEAKER_01 24:00

That's free in the week of Christmas. Sorry. It feels really crazy because no one's free. Yeah. Like, and by the way, you're not even gonna be like around. Yeah. Like they're gonna be busy. You're not even gonna be like in town in the same town.

SPEAKER_03 24:14

Yeah, that's how that's how it's going for me.

SPEAKER_01 24:17

So this is my thought. Let's Julie's gonna go and do real meets in real life.

SPEAKER_03 24:24

I'm trying.

SPEAKER_01 24:25

Um, which uh, you know, yeah, actually has happened when you know I've we've been out, people have come up and regularly. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:37

That's the issue. Yeah, you know what type of people that is. Yeah. The other night we were at Q's, and we know one of the bouncers there since we're regulars because we live down the street from it, and I was talking to him because so in a previous episode of podcast, I like brought up statistics from this past year, and one of them is pretty much saying, like, guys want more relationships, but they're afraid of like being too vulnerable or like saying they want a relationship. And I was talking to him about it. He's like, All the time, I will overhear a group of guys saying they think a girl is pretty, and they will never go up to anything. Yeah, he's like, it happens all the time. Guys just don't you guys want to up with this?

SPEAKER_01 25:16

Stop being scared. Somebody, someone chime in and let me know because I have a lot of conversations with my sisters and my mom and my friends about this, and we all wonder like what's the issue with coming up? What's changed? What's just say like one thing. I used to get approached all the time, and now I don't, and I'm like what has changed? But like, why? Just come up, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't know. And is chivalry dead? It can't be. Yeah, it can't be dead, and we're not gonna give up on it. At the same rate though, we can as women should feel empowered to walk up as well. I've done it once. How'd how'd that go?

SPEAKER_03 25:55

He said he was not single, but I was very proud I did it.

SPEAKER_01 25:58

I'm proud of you for doing it. Yeah, I feel like it's it is nerve-wracking. I think that there's a lot of us who still want chivalry.

SPEAKER_02 26:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:09

And I think that's fair to ask for.

SPEAKER_02 26:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:12

I'm just saying just come up and say something first and kick it off.

SPEAKER_03 26:16

You know what's a way to not go about it? Someone left a note on my car at the gym.

unknown 26:20

No way.

SPEAKER_03 26:21

I don't know how he knew what car I had. Because I just feels a little creepy. Yeah, I was friends with the people at the front desk, so I texted the girl and I was like, hey, can you well first pull the footage up? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:33

I was like, pull the parking lot footage up right now.

SPEAKER_03 26:36

Can you look up what person this is? Because first I didn't know what person it was, and they but they left their phone number. So I'm like, can you look up their phone number? Send me a picture of who it is. She sent me a picture of who it is, and I'm like, okay, when did they check in and when did they check out? So they checked in after I was already there and left before I left. So my car was already there parked. They couldn't have seen me. So they've seen you a previous time. I guess so, but like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 27:02

So there's a borderline here of creepy as cute and chivalrous. Yeah, like maybe just say hi to me in in person at the gym, then there's so many stigmas though, because I feel like a lot of guys have been scared off of like approaching women at the gym because I've seen a lot of videos on social media of like don't approach a woman at the gym. So in his defense, maybe he felt like I don't want to be creepy and this is less creepy, but then at the same rate, it's so creepy. So there's like a world of like, there's like, yeah, this world of like what do I do then to not be creepy? But so I'm gonna tell you now. If it was at night, it's like not, it just feels like not a good idea. But maybe they like say something in the parking lot. Yeah. Like so it's not coming up to you mid-set.

SPEAKER_03 27:46

But do they like wait for me? That's also true.

SPEAKER_01 27:50

I don't know, because I did once upon a time have somebody follow me out of the gym and approach me in the parking lot at night, and I had my headphones on, like blasting.

SPEAKER_02 28:02

I can't.

SPEAKER_01 28:02

And I literally like couldn't hear anything, and this guy comes up, like, I think I see, because you know, as women, we're like super aware, we're hyper aware, and I feel I don't even look, I just feel like someone in my peripheral, and I'm I like jump. I'm like, oh my god, and the guy's like, I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry. I whatever, what whatever, getting to getting the number, but in my mind, I was like, let's not scare people. Like, I don't know. I don't have a rule book on how to do it. Just say hi. I don't have a rule book on how to do it, yeah, but I know that there's things that are like that could scare somebody. Like you might, if this for you might have had like a safety concern. And so I don't I think that there's ways to do it where you're not freaked out, but it's still chivalrous.

SPEAKER_03 28:50

Yeah. My dad just went up to my mom and asked her to dance at a bar, but that was back in, you know, that's so cute in the old days. I know.

SPEAKER_01 28:56

And I'm like, that's super cute. My parents were set up on a blind date. Oh, yeah. Cute. And they went to breakfast, and the rest is history. Breakfast date. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:08

Breakfast day. Wholesome. That's the word I was looking for. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:11

Oh, that's right. And they're just, you know, still together.

SPEAKER_03 29:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:15

Very cute.

SPEAKER_03 29:16

Yeah. Well, we had some people send in a few stories. Do you want to read fun? Do you want to read them? Yeah, let's read them. Okay, I have three different ones. The first one's a hot take, and I'm keeping them anonymous. They said, if if you ask someone out on a first date on a weeknight, so Monday through Thursday, not including Friday, and set it at a time between 5 and 7 p.m., then it's expected to be a dinner date and not just meeting up for drinks. Who wants to go straight from work to getting a drink on an empty stomach? Not me. Okay. How do you feel about that? Because sometimes first dates I feel like are good to just be drinks because then you can you can dip if it's not going well. Yeah. But I will say I had a first date once that was, I think it was set at like 5 p.m. or 6 p.m. And I was like, perfect. It'll be an hour or two. I'll come home and eat dinner. So I didn't eat. This man talked for hours. And hours. We were there till midnight. And I was starving. And I I the first hour or two, yeah, the conversation was fine and he was nice. But getting on hour four, I started like, I swear, I was dozing off. I didn't say a word, I think the last two hours. I think he just talked the whole time. Oh no. And I was so hungry. But I don't know. Oh no. Do you do dinner dates? And by the way, that's reasonable. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:41

You're like, I'm starving. Yeah. I have to, I must get home.

SPEAKER_03 30:45

We're on hour five.

SPEAKER_01 30:46

I must get home and do more than a girl dinner. Yeah. Well, I don't know. My upfront thought is that I think a lot of dates these days are drinks because I think that on both ends, people think that, like you said, like drinks are more, it lends more of a hand of like leaving early if it's not working, or it's just not as much of a commitment, like even financially for either party. So I feel like that's why they're suggested a lot. And also there's like maybe there's just like more of an energy with I've always felt like there's more of an energy with drinks than a sit-down dinner. Like usually if you're going to a bar, it's like a little more loud, a little more lively, which like I appreciate. So there's a part of me that's like I would want that because I want like I'm like someone who like feeds off of energy in a room. So if I'm in a bar and there's a bunch of energy, like maybe I'll be more because dating is like a date is could be very awkward. Like you're meeting someone for the first time and you're expected to kind of be like a hundred percent yourself on display, but you don't know this person.

SPEAKER_03 31:49

So unless it is someone that you've known before, right, right, right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:53

But I feel like there's advantages to it, but for sure, like I'm I'm someone who's lightweight, and like two, three drinks, like I'll be feeling good, I'll be feeling fancy. So I concur with like the needing food thing. I feel like there's extra planning that goes into it. Like before you leave work, you're like having some snacks to that are substantial, and then I don't know. Yeah. I feel like there's there are a lot of benefits to a drink date.

SPEAKER_03 32:20

Yeah, I feel the same way. And I feel like speaking of that, like so much thought I feel like goes into girls for a first date that guys just don't put in. It's like, okay, if I'm going straight from work to a date, I need to pack a refresher makeup. I need to pack my outfit. I'm getting changed in the car. Yes. My hair had might have been back for work. I need to like figure out maybe I need to keep my hair back so I don't have, I don't know, whatever. Like, I feel like girls think about that. I'm packing my snacks. Right. This and that. And then guys just show up.

SPEAKER_01 32:48

Yeah, there's a lot of steps for us. There's a lot of backwards girl math going on of like, so I have to get to the table at five. So that means I have to like start driving at 4 30, because anywhere in LA takes like 30 minutes or more. And then that means I need to be like ready by four and like eat by 3.45. Like, there's so much backing out that like you when you do do the math on it, you're like, wait, but like if I sit down for drinks at five, then I am eating at like 3.30 and it's gonna wear off. And so it's like, yeah, I think if it's somebody I know that I've hung out with before, been on a date with before, like, I would like it to be a dinner, but there's a level of comfortability there of like being at a dinner and like doing like a one to two hour upwards commitment, depending on where you dine. Yeah. Where like a drink could realistically be like if you get there at five, you could technically leave at six and still get home for dinner at a reasonable time. So I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 33:40

Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I don't make the rules. I've been in that situation before where like I knew this guy was not for me. So when he when the waiter kept asking, like, do you want to order another drink? I kept like giving this look to the waiter, like, no, no, like, and he immediately like got it and brought the check. He didn't even ask if we wanted the check, he just brought the check down. Did you just like I am down like daggers?

SPEAKER_01 34:01

Like wow. Yeah. So that was handy. But more power to you. Yeah. Know what you want. And know when it's time. Yeah. Know when it's time to call it. And it's that's okay. Exactly. That's okay.

SPEAKER_03 34:12

That's okay. This one is meant for everyone. Okay, so this is a first date story. I went on a date with a guy my grandma found and tried to set me up with. He was awful. Wait.

SPEAKER_01 34:24

I'm like, wait, that's cute. Oh my god. Followed by the next sentence, that's like it was awful.

SPEAKER_03 34:28

There's a lot of great steps to this one. Okay, so first he pushed the start time back to 8 p.m. just a couple hours before. When I showed up, he had already ordered a drink, which I thought was a little odd. He asked me maybe five questions, but just kept talking about himself. We had one drink and then he wanted to walk to a different bar, but wanted to say hi to his client on the way. We ended up stopping at a cigar bar with his extremely drunk client. I stayed for a few minutes and then just left. It was so smoky. Whoa. It's a lot.

SPEAKER_01 35:01

First off, grandma setting you up. Okay, can we just like okay? I I need to stop on that on the top line there. That is so cute that your grandma set you up. Like she was out thinking of this person and was like, I just want to do this thing. Maybe saw this guy, thought he was cute. Like I would love that. Like I know I miss my grandma. Like I like I would love that. My grandma would have never. Yeah. My grandma would have not.

unknown 35:31

No.

SPEAKER_01 35:31

I feel like my grandma would have, but I but then I love that the second sentence though, it's like this really wholesome thing about like my grandma set me up, followed by and it was awful. He did, he was awful. And you know what? Grandma like keep doing it for this person, but it sucks that it was awful. And also, by the way, the rest of the story is super weird.

SPEAKER_03 35:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:52

Like, why are we seeing a client on a date? Why is it a cigar bar? Are there where even is a local cigar bar? Like I can't even think of one. I'm not a cigar connoisseur, but I'm like, is that a thing still? People I don't know. And by the way, people meet their clients there. Like, what what kind of job are we talking?

SPEAKER_03 36:11

Yeah, and why on a you're on a date. Why would you think to meet a client and get wasted with him? What do you think about yeah? It says when I showed up, he had already ordered a drink. Does that bother you?

SPEAKER_01 36:25

Hmm. I need to know like, did he then say let's get a drink together? And then or did he like just get his own and was like you get your own?

SPEAKER_02 36:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:36

If it's the latter, I'm really put off by it. But if he's like, hey, I just kicked it off like while I was waiting for you, but now like let's go get one together, I'm like, great.

SPEAKER_00 36:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:46

But if it was like you go get your own, or I don't know, that feels like a little weird. It feels like a little individualized, like when you're supposed to be coming together over a date, so don't love that part. And the rest of it is just like horrible. Let's not see this person again. Yeah, that's just my thought on the rest of the story. Yeah. Is like we don't need to see this person.

SPEAKER_03 37:06

Yeah. Again. Was there any like super crazy first dates that just kept taking turns and turns and turns that you've had?

SPEAKER_01 37:14

I've had so many crazy first dates.

SPEAKER_03 37:16

Shouldn't we just go date for date? I have to tell us one. I won, yeah. Yeah. Do you want to kick it off? Sure. So I show up. So okay, so the it was off a hinge or whatever. And he was like, Me and my friends all like a group of friends usually play pool at this bar. And like that idea could be fun. Like a group hang as a first date. I feel like you get to know someone, see how they are around their friends, see what their friends are like. It kind of can make it less awkward in the right scenario. I show up. Fine print in the right scenario. I show up, and um, his friends are all like 45. Oh, no way. Which he has a broken hand, and I'm like, oh, what happened there? Interesting. The night before he had gotten in a bar fight and broke his hand from Hussein. He shared that one, yes.

SPEAKER_01 38:05

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 38:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 38:07

Transparency can go really far sometimes.

SPEAKER_03 38:10

Yeah, yeah. And then he needed me to drive him home at the end because he didn't have a car. And I was like, uh nothing wrong with like that. But like this was just going, I don't know. Wait, no. Like if you're taking and then it was just weird. Like it just keeps getting weird. 45-year-old friends. He got in a bar fight. Interesting. I'm worried about your own safety. Yeah. And now he's asking me for a favor. Like, you could call an Uber, you know. Like I drove him home. I'm I'm a nice person, but it was just one thing after another.

SPEAKER_01 38:40

I was like, this it's just like this wasn't the vision. Can it's like, can it get, can we add something to make it like crazier? And then sometimes like it's those things that you're like, in the moment, it's like this is awful. And then later you can tell it and it's like this kind of funny. Or like you can laugh about it and be like, like, you know, because now you have a crazy story, like for the plot, but in the moment it's like my mom is gonna freak out when I tell her, like, that's always my first thought. It's like, I'm gonna call my mom. My mom's gonna be like, what is going on?

SPEAKER_03 39:10

That's cute.

SPEAKER_01 39:10

You're telling your mom about your I do, I do. My mom is like, she just I have two sisters, there's three of us, and so I feel like there's just so many like girl stories all the time. And I think my mom like just left it. Really? Wait, where are you? I forget. I'm the youngest. Two older sisters. Oh my god, we're the opposite ends. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, um, okay, that's crazy. One time I okay, one time I went on a date and I got catfished by like a man who was using pictures of his brother, I believe. So there was like a resemblance for sure, but it like wasn't him. Um it's not like it was him, you know, in any of them, by the way. It was like just the brother in all the pictures. And the reason that I found that out is because I kind of addressed it like after the fact because we like obviously didn't hang out again because I just felt like that's a weird way to come into a date like on a false pretense. Yeah. So we didn't go on any follow-up dates, but I was just like, hey, I thought I thought it was a little odd that you know, like, because I feel like there was something, and I can't remember because this was years ago, there was something that like was very key to them, like it not being him. Like maybe the hair was like brown and dirty blonde or something, and I found a way to get it out of him, and he was like, you know what? I I've been like pretty uh open about or or maybe not open, I don't remember exactly at what, but he was like, I I've been using pictures of like my brother. What is the like what I just don't get it? I don't get it, and I was like, I was like, okay, well, I think it might be a good idea to like use some of you like going forward. Um that's like you know what I mean. Like, I I don't know. I'm like, I I'm not gonna be coming back out on another date, but I think I was like trying to lightly be like as you move forward in your dating journey, yeah. Said by someone who's experienced this, like it just feels weird.

SPEAKER_03 41:17

That's so kind of you.

SPEAKER_01 41:18

Yeah, yeah. But I never expected to get catfish myself. Like, I was like, this is a crazy experience.

SPEAKER_03 41:26

But what is the plan? Because you're always gonna have to see them in person. So, like, how does that ever work out? I don't know. Is it like they just want to lure a girl in and then they think with their charm or something?

SPEAKER_01 41:39

Maybe they think maybe, yeah, maybe they think that like it gets you in the door and then something will happen, or you maybe they think you won't notice. Like, I feel like some people are just are delusional. Delusional. They're like delusional city, like sometimes you have to be a little delusional, yeah. But to this extent, to this extent, I'm just like maybe we don't use pictures that are of our sibling, yeah. Like if I did that with my sister, I just don't even think I could show up on the date.

SPEAKER_02 42:10

Yeah, wait, that's so cute.

SPEAKER_01 42:13

Like, because then I would have to address it and be like, oh, that's my sister. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 42:16

I'd be embarrassed. That's so cute. We both have two sisters. I didn't know that. Yeah. Oh my god. I love that. Yeah. All girls. Girly girlies and my dad. I know. Do you have a great girl dad? Mm-hmm. The best. I call him all the time. I I think every episode of this podcast, I was like, so I called my dad. Hi dad! I love that. My dad is a girl dad too. Yeah. And girl dads are the best. Yeah. Yeah. They know how to do it right. The next story actually was a catfish story that we call some. No way. Yes. So it says, one time I catfished my ex that felt like a spiral. I knew he'd be on Tinder, and I was within one mile of him. So I swiped until I found him and then started a combo. No way. Then I changed my own name in my contacts and texted myself the proof and said, Why did this girl just reach out to me?

SPEAKER_01 43:09

No way. That's insane. Wait, so this is while they were together. Her ex. So she was catching no, no, no, no, no. But like, was she dating him at the time because she reached out to him and said, Why'd this girl reach out to me? Like, was this to catch him in something? But sh the girl that reached out, that's herself.

SPEAKER_03 43:30

I think it was just to mess with him.

SPEAKER_01 43:32

I don't know. Wait, wait, I think. I changed my own name, my contacts.

SPEAKER_03 43:35

So she was like under a false profile.

SPEAKER_01 43:38

The proof.

SPEAKER_03 43:40

And then I think she was acting like that girl. Oh, proof. So maybe you're right, they were together.

SPEAKER_01 43:46

That's how I'm interpreting it. Like that they were together and she like knew he I don't know. But had I wouldn't even think to do this.

SPEAKER_03 43:56

But I mean, this is really Interesting. Taking it step by step. But she's talking to him as someone else, but it's still her, so it's not another girl. And then texts herself as if the girl texted her. Okay. Right? Saying is that it was just a way to mess with him, I think. Maybe. And like then she found a way to reach out to him.

SPEAKER_01 44:24

Why'd this girl reach out to but my my thing is like if they're broken up, like why would why would we be saying that? Like I I guess like the way I interpreted it was like maybe she was trying to catch him cheating or something. Him being on Tinder. Being on Tinder. Oh, that makes sense. That's like how I first interpreted it. Yeah. But again, I don't know. But if we're if we're gonna address it that way, I'm like, that's kind of a smart, honestly.

SPEAKER_03 44:51

Yeah. She said it felt like a spiral, so maybe it was recent X and she was like just crashing out. Or if they were together, that makes sense. Like he she was catching him being on Tinder. Maybe. Maybe or girls are.

SPEAKER_01 45:05

Hey, you know what? It's creative. Props for creativity. Props for creativity. Um I'm like now wondering what he said. Like, I think I need to I want the follow-up story. Like what happened.

SPEAKER_00 45:17

What happened after this? Screenshots, please.

SPEAKER_01 45:19

Yeah, we need to read through the like let's do this on the next episode where we read through like the follow-up here because now I'm curious of where this went.

SPEAKER_03 45:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:28

Or maybe we could get some clarification on like, was this to catch him in something?

SPEAKER_03 45:32

Or we need more details for sure.

SPEAKER_01 45:34

We need more details, but like off the bat, I think it's hilarious that we just talked about a catfish story and here we are reading one.

SPEAKER_03 45:40

Yeah. Um, but I feel like yeah, sometimes you do just gotta do things for the story. For the plots. For the plots. So if things don't work out, like with all these, at least they all had a story.

SPEAKER_01 45:56

Wait, I need to ask you, have you ever done anything for the plot?

SPEAKER_03 46:00

Um, I don't know if I have done anything crazy. Definitely like with my friends out at bars, like pretended to like be other people or we were in a relationship or stuff like that.

unknown 46:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 46:15

When like meeting guys out.

SPEAKER_01 46:17

Yeah. I've definitely done that. I feel like, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's kind of fun to do that, honestly. Yeah. I feel like I saw this interview with Aubrey Plaza where she was talking about how she used to do that all the time, like uh either before or when she was just getting into acting, I'm not sure. And she would go out and just like love to create these fake stories of like who she was, what her name was, what her job was, what her background was. And like it was honestly just fun for her to like continuously prove to herself that she could keep having like these real conversations with people, fully thinking she's someone she's not, and it would like just be for the bit.

SPEAKER_03 46:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:55

I have done that with my friends, and we've had like a completely different alias, and like it's been like fun. I don't know if it's kind of fun sometimes to just be like not taking it. Yeah, I don't know, just not taking it too seriously and that's so fun. And just have a good time with it.

SPEAKER_03 47:12

Have you done anything else super crazy for the plot or just kind of same?

SPEAKER_01 47:16

Um kind of things. I don't know. Like, I mean, I feel like there have been times where I have maybe it's just like where I've just like continuously said yes, like in a night out where the night keeps going, and maybe you had an intention to like go home at midnight. Is there something the next day, but then the ball keeps rolling of like well, now everyone's gonna go and do like an after party, and then you end up at some crazy person's house, and you're like, Well, now we can't leave, and yeah, and then it's I feel like one time I did that long ago, and we were all at this like after party in Manhattan Beach, and all of a sudden, like people start doing magic tricks, and like I love magic, and um, there's like card games coming out, and it's things like you wouldn't normally see at like a traditional kind of after party or house party. Yeah, and I'm just like we this is so fun. Like, I didn't have any plans. I feel like sometimes the best things are the most unexpected things where you have no idea that the night was going to ever get there, and then like the more fun it becomes and the more crazy stuff unfolds, you're like, there's I'm I don't know when I'm going home.

SPEAKER_03 48:30

Like my plan, like I might be canceling that workout class in the morning. And then the next morning you're like debriefing and you're like, what all happened last night? And you're like, oh my god, that happened, and then that happened. Those are the most best thing to do.

SPEAKER_01 48:40

It's like to wake up and call friends, or maybe like friends slept over, or you're calling like me, like my mom or my sisters, and being like, You have no idea like what happened last night, like still hung over, like just talking about it. It's like the best, yeah, some of the best stories and like retells. And one one of these episodes we need to do that where like we have go out with the gals and yeah, and do like an and then day um like a day after recount.

SPEAKER_03 49:07

The next morning. Yeah, I'm so down for that. We can like just order breakfast burritos and just yes, debrieze the night before.

SPEAKER_01 49:13

Live breakfast burritos and Pedia lights.

SPEAKER_03 49:17

That yeah, that'll be essential. Essential for sure, for sure. Um, okay. The last thing I had for us, I found some old magazine dating quizzes. If you want to do any.

SPEAKER_01 49:27

Yeah, yeah, like do something. This is so fun because this is like used to do this all the time growing up with like Tiger Beat. And I feel like 14. What were the ones called with like the Disney Channel? Yeah, yes, yes. I used to go to the grocery store and just like pick them out. My wall, first of all. Wait, did you pull out the pictures of like the headshots of like everybody from Disney Channel and put them? I put them all on my whole massive collection.

SPEAKER_03 49:55

First of all, my childhood bedroom wall was lime green because it was Lizzie Maguire.

SPEAKER_01 49:59

So was mine. It was lime green and blue.

SPEAKER_03 50:01

Oh my god. Like opposite walls.

SPEAKER_01 50:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 50:03

No, it was all lime green. All lime green. And I did it because the can had Lizzie Maguire on it, and my mom was like, Your room gives me a headache. And I'm like, It's Lizzie McGuire.

SPEAKER_01 50:12

You know what? That's so funny you say that because when we moved out of the house that I had that in, I mom, my parents' realtor was like, said, like, this house won't sell with that color. Like, we have to remake it. We were like nine years old, and I was so offended by that realtor, and I was like, you know what? You don't get it. Like, you just don't get it. You're not with the times. Like, you're not with the times, you don't understand. And if it just won't sell, I'm like, maybe it'll sell more. Like, how do you know that?

SPEAKER_03 50:41

And if you cover your wall wall to wall with posters of Troy Bo Bolton and literally everyone, then you won't even see the colors. I saw that. It's highly marketable stuff, by the way. I had to start like moving to the ceiling to put posters on because I covered my walls so much.

SPEAKER_01 50:56

Okay, I did not move to the ceiling, but I had a whole wall, and it was like it was like everybody from high school musical, like it was it was literally like I had like all my crushes from Disney Channel, like in the direct middle. It was amazing. Yeah, those were the times. Like, do people do that anymore? I don't think do girls, young girls do that anymore. Is our magazine's even a thing? Yeah, it's like it's it's all digital. It's all it's like get ready with me's at nine years old, probably. It was such an era.

SPEAKER_03 51:28

I had in my room one of my presents for my birthday was like a microphone and a microphone stand and like a karaoke machine. Like my dad like built me this microphone stand. I wanted to be a pop star so bad. I'm sure my parents were tired of me. I would scream, act like no one could hear me every single song.

SPEAKER_01 51:44

Oh, if I had a voice, it would be over. If I could sing, it would be over, you guys. Like it would be done. Like Sabrina Carpenter, Tate McCrae, like you'd be up there. I'd be, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I was the same way. I mean, I had the head mic on this year with my Satan McRae Halloween. And it was like so fun, just like because I feel like I had the head mic too when I was younger and when I was doing all those video camera performances.

SPEAKER_03 52:12

I would like write songs and perform for my mom, put on little fashion shows. The best. Just look at me. I just childhood.

SPEAKER_01 52:20

And by the way, childhood was amazing when we were growing up. Like I feel like we were at the tail end of like when people when kids still like went and played outside and like didn't have phones yet. Oh, I was one of the boys in my neighborhood. Really?

SPEAKER_03 52:34

Yeah, because my like two next door neighbors were both boys, and I was like, Well, I'm playing basketball with you. I'm playing guitar here. I'm doing everything. Like meet me in the cul-de-sac.

SPEAKER_01 52:42

Yeah. We had a cul-de-sac too. Oh my gosh. That's amazing. Yeah, we were like the same childhood. Yeah. Wait, where did you where was your hometown again? Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania. Just outside of Philly, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Up in the Bay Area for me. But same thing, cul-de-sac. Yeah. Yeah. That's amazing. Thank you. I feel like that's the best street like when you're growing up because it's not like a dangerous through street where you're like always worried about cars necessarily.

SPEAKER_03 53:09

Um so we would just always be out like on bikes and like man-made playing and you a man-made neighborhood.

SPEAKER_01 53:16

What's that wait, what was that?

SPEAKER_03 53:17

Oh, you like split up in two teams. I don't know, everyone goes hides. I feel like we did do that. Yeah. Like, and then when you found someone on the other team, they like go to jail your jail and like try and tag people on the jail of your own team.

SPEAKER_01 53:30

Yes, we did do that. And we did uh Capture the Flag. Yes. And we did like Sardines in a Can. And we had this huge like red wagon that like all the kids would pull each other, like for rides around the street and and like up and down driveways and like sidewalk chalk. Like, those are the days. Those are the days. Those are the days, you guys.

SPEAKER_03 53:50

That's amazing. So cute. I love it. Okay. Do you want to do that?

SPEAKER_01 53:53

Can we just like go back for a day and like just do this for like that's what I'm saying? Is I talk with my roommates about this a lot. Like, we need to do more things that bring out our inner child.

SPEAKER_03 54:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 54:03

And like, is there a version where we can do some of these things as adults? Like, we can. Like, we could do sidewalk.

SPEAKER_03 54:08

We could like make a little field day. That would be ourselves and like plan all these.

SPEAKER_01 54:12

And like have a bunch of people do.

SPEAKER_03 54:14

Yeah. And then we could all like wear certain colors, or I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 54:18

I love that. Me and my roommate this summer, like when it was really beautiful out, like we went boogie boarding in Santa Monica. And we were the oldest people out there. You guys, like we were, you know, 26, 27, and there's just a bunch of like kids doing it too. And we were like, who cares? Like, it's fun. And we had a blast. We probably did it for an hour. Yeah. And we're just like, we like on all the waves. Like, it's completely like coming in and going back out. And like, like it was we had like a whole day after that committed to like bring out your inner child. And it was so much fun. And we just need more of that. Like more reminders of how to do that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 54:58

It's all about the little things. Yeah. I love it. In those moments. On cute. Yeah. Cute cute.

SPEAKER_01 55:05

I don't know where those boogie boards are anymore. Like the day after we used them, they like mysteriously disappeared. And it became this point of like conversation in our group chat of like someone stole them. I think someone also stole our surfboards. Because we had like surfboards and boogie boards, and then they all like went missing the day after we used them.

SPEAKER_03 55:23

That's rude.

SPEAKER_01 55:24

And I'm just like, excuse me.

SPEAKER_03 55:25

But I'm such like an ocean girl. Like, if we're going to the beach, I love going in the ocean. Yeah. It's kind of different in LA or on the West Coast. At least East Coast, everyone's in the water. Like so many people go to the beach and go in the water. I'm like, let's go play mermaids and ride the waves. I think we did that. We are so many like ocean games and like up there on a paddleboard, like whatever. Yeah. And I'm like, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 55:49

I it's amazing. Like to do that. We did that too. What mermaid are you? What color?

SPEAKER_03 55:54

I like blue usually, I feel like is my default.

SPEAKER_01 55:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 55:57

But I feel like that's kind of boring color. Are you pink? That's boring. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 56:02

Pink!

SPEAKER_03 56:03

Blue color. Like are my go-to's. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 56:06

Well, your eyes. Yeah. Makes sense. Yeah. Aquamarine. Oh my gosh. Amazing movie.

SPEAKER_03 56:13

Oh, see, they don't even make movies like that anymore either. I feel like we had such a movie.

SPEAKER_01 56:17

I can't think of one like that that is nowadays, honestly.

SPEAKER_03 56:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 56:23

I think I watched that movie like a hundred times. Yeah. Like that was an amazing movie to grow up on.

SPEAKER_03 56:28

I would just play and then rewind and play. I did that with Freaky Friday, too, the the original, um, obviously. I remember. With my VHS.

SPEAKER_01 56:39

VHS. Oh my gosh. Yeah. I did that with like the Mary Kate Nashley movies too. Yes. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_03 56:45

We had them all.

SPEAKER_01 56:46

Like what were the there was like a couple of Amanda Bynes ones. What a Girl One. What a Girl Once.

SPEAKER_03 56:51

Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 56:55

Yeah, I think so. I think so. Wait, what's it? Wait, what's the one where she goes to was it What a Girl Once where she where her dad's like in London and is like um a Duke or something. Yeah. I watched that so many times. Yeah. Like amazing.

SPEAKER_02 57:11

And that guy Oliver, who, you know, she has a crush on. Yes. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 57:16

And oh my gosh, oh my gosh, another one too is um is wait, the wait, Princess Diaries. Yeah. Princess Diaries, I would always be like, my grandma's the queen of Chino. Yeah. Like I'm the princess. Like, and uh her character like grew up in the Bay Area, and I was like, it's it's me. Like one day I'm gonna wake up and like it's gonna be me. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 57:35

I reference she's the man all the time. That one's kind of like a little bit older. Literally, yesterday I was just like, I can see you for you, Julia. Oh glitch. Yeah. Just randomly. That's my like comfort one.

SPEAKER_01 57:47

I feel like hit the line, and I don't know what he says with like the cheese line gouda. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 57:52

It's guda.

SPEAKER_01 57:52

Yeah. I remember that one all the time. Oh man.

SPEAKER_03 57:56

Oh, so good.

SPEAKER_01 57:58

Good memories. So good. Good memories.

SPEAKER_03 58:00

So good. Okay. So some different titles we have are Are You Boyfriend Ready? Do you like sweeties or jokers? Uh find your Mr. Dreamy. Can you keep a guy intrigued? Are you a closeted commitment phobe? Do any of those intrigue you?

SPEAKER_01 58:17

Interesting. Honestly, any dealer's choice. I love a dealer's choice.

SPEAKER_03 58:22

Let's um find who my Mr. Dreamy is. Since I'm now meeting people in person, this is my.

SPEAKER_01 58:28

Yeah, we've uh it's official as of as of this uh night that that is what's happening. Yeah. So stay tuned for all the updates there. Let's see.

SPEAKER_03 58:37

Okay, multiple choice here. Are you an ideal girlfriend? You accidentally left your iPad and your boyfriend iPod in your iPod.

SPEAKER_01 58:46

These are throwbacks. Guys, this is like 2000s criteria. Did you have an iPod? Oh yeah. What color? What color?

SPEAKER_03 58:53

I think it was green. I think it was lime green. I had a lime green one, too. But like I'm like, what is up with us in lime green? I know.

SPEAKER_01 58:58

I don't, by the way, don't even like have anything lime green nowadays. But back then it was like everything. Like I had the nano, the like the whiter one. No, I think it had like a smaller screen. Okay, yeah. But it was a little bit, it I had like a flip case that when you like flipped it up, you could see the iPod. I went everywhere with that.

SPEAKER_03 59:18

I didn't have a smartphone until I think like my high school graduation. So I was the girl with the iPod Touch and my little slidey out phone. I had I was two device girl because everyone else had iPhones, but I didn't know an iPod kid. Not iPod because it was iPod Touch. So I could have my apps on there, and then my phone was just for texting and calls. Wow. Yeah. I remember trying to flirt with my boy and I had her.

SPEAKER_01 59:45

No! I do I have my two device.

SPEAKER_03 59:49

And he was older than me.

SPEAKER_01 59:51

He's like, what's going on? Yeah. Not a good thing. Okay, you're left your iPod.

SPEAKER_03 59:56

My iPad in my ex-boy ex-boyfriend's car. What do you do? You immediately drive over to his house and break into his car. You'll use a bat if necessary. B, give him a call and tell him you want your iPod back. You'll meet him at a coffee shop before work and you'll switch him for a latte for your iPad. Or C, save up to get a new one, as if you'd call that jerk.

unknown 1:00:17

Hmm.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:17

Wow. iPods were valuable in this time. You know?

SPEAKER_01 1:00:22

Yeah. Um, my thought is like give him a call and get it back, but I don't know that I'm giving him a latte for that. Yeah, no.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:29

He doesn't deserve a latte. Like I just left it in there. I just need it back. Yeah. No, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:34

So you know, I think that's reasonable.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:37

Yeah. I need that back.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:39

Just give it back. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:40

Thank you. Okay, his family has a Thanksgiving tradition of turkey, then NFL. You're a vegetarian and hate football. What do you do? Oh my gosh. Pass on meeting his family. You aren't going to pretend to like turkey and football for any guy. Okay. You can still go and like.

unknown 1:00:58

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:58

Wait, maybe that's another option. B, agree to go. Okay. You'll just pass the turkey and enjoy time with his family. No big deal. Plus, there's a book you've been wanting to read and now you have an excuse. Okay, now we're throwing a book into the display.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:10

Wait, how does the book come in? Wait, you can't go to someone's. No, we can't do that. We can't do that.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:16

C polish off a bottle of wine before dinner and then talk about how disgusting meat is. I feel like crazy.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:23

No, no, no. There's like a there's always an invisible like extra option here, which like I'm going with B, which is a version of that, but I'm not like my parents would never let me go to someone's house and like be reading or on my phone.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:39

Could you imagine you're meeting imagine you're meeting them, your boyfriend's parents for the first time and you get to Is it for the first time? I don't know, but this is just how I'm picturing it.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:47

I'm picturing it too. And you pull out a book and you're like, No. No, no, no, no. Like, why don't you just like talk to someone in the kitchen or start doing a card game or something else? You can be in the same room and like not have to watch it.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:03

Yeah. Okay, your boyfriend compliments you on the way you look. You thank him and return the favor, laugh. Of course, you look good. It took two hours to get ready. Or yell at him. Wow. Yell at him for thinking you're fat because that's probably what he was thinking. Who wrote it? That's crazy. I feel like whose job is this to write this? I feel like they were just like having so much fun one night. Yeah. Like posting this in cosmic.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:29

I remember this being like these being like that, or they're like the answers are kind of crazy. Um, for me, it's like it definitely took an hour plus to get ready. So, like, but I'm not gonna laugh. I think I'm gonna thank him and I don't know, just do a cute smile or yeah, return the compliment and like in a way that feels authentic.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:50

Do you um use names like babe or like would you be like thanks, babe? Those come natural to you.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:57

I feel like it's situational. I don't know that I would throw that in with like a thank you.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:04

It's like that's sweet.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:06

Yeah, thank you. I don't know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:09

Um, okay. Four, your boyfriend of six months calls to cancel a date because he's sick and just wants to stay home alone. You hang up on him immediately and call your friends to make other plans. You're not sitting home on a Saturday night. B, immediately drive over to his house and circle the block a few times to see if he's telling the truth. Or if someone else is coming over. Or C wish him a speedy recovery and tell him to call you when he's feeling better. I mean, I feel like A is pretty reasonable. Not hang up on him. I think you can end the call, but you can still go out with your friends. Like Yeah. Why not? If you're he's staying home. And I think call him when you get home.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:47

Yeah. And you've been together for six months, so I feel like he'd be understanding about that and be like, okay, well then I think I'm gonna meet the girls here.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:58

Yeah. Why not? If he's the one canceling, like that's crazy. If you ever like don't trust him enough to have to check his phone or circle the block, then it's already over.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:08

Yeah, I think that there's something else at play if that's your first thought. Maybe it's like uh I don't revisit the thought of being together.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:17

If that's the answer.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:19

Yeah. Um, okay. It's your third date. You decide on a quiet night in. Ooh. You use the one-on-one time to ask him to define the relationship. You spend all night on Pinterest, Facebook, and your cell. You get ingredients for homemade pizza and rent the comedy you've both been wanting to see. Definitely that one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:40

I would definitely do like a cute uh I mean a actually cute idea, like a comedy movie and like maybe making something together or yeah, home it says homemade pizza, that's fun. Yeah. I love the idea.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:53

Using the one-on-one time to ask them to define the relationship, that's like it's only three dates.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:57

Three dates feels like no. And I also you're not gonna be on your phone the whole time.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:01

So it's definitely and were your other dates not one-on-one, like I should say they were in public.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:08

Maybe.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:09

Huh. Um, what did we mainly answer? Let's see. Oh, okay. The system is really confusing here. What are the options? Hot potato? My girl, my girl, you'll fur find the perfect guy. In the meantime, enjoy being an ideal combination of Holly. Who's that? What's that? Marianne from Gilligan's Island and Zoe De Chanel. Wait. I don't know who this is. Wait, who is that? I don't know. Holly Golly.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:41

Hot potatoes. I mean, we didn't even like add our points up really.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:44

Yeah. But okay, so wait. Zero. So we are my girl.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:50

So wait, and then wait, what's the title of the quiz again?

SPEAKER_03 1:05:53

It's like Oh, um, find out if you are Mrs. Ideal or Mr. Dreamy. And we are I guess is this combination of people, Mrs. Ideal? Oh, okay. I hope so. I don't know who that girl is, though.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:08

Okay, well, the other option is like hot potato or runny mascara. So we might have been like the best option here. Yeah. My girl. Okay. That feels fun. Yeah. That means I'm ready. That feels fun. So that what that means is that, you know, organic meats will happen. And we're not taking away from this.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:28

We're gonna go to the bar and you're gonna be like, well, Cosmo said I'm your ideal girl.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:32

So And that we're a combination of these three like amazing women. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:37

So because of that, catch me in a week with a boyfriend.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:40

That's all right. It's a great catch. Yeah, that's all I have to say. Cosmo said it, and I don't we don't make the rules. We don't make the rules. That's like but we enforce them. That's so yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:51

Okay, I have one last question for you. Okay. Yes. I'm gonna I'm gonna ask everyone that comes on the pod this what have you spiraled about recently? Anything fun or serious, whatever vibe.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:04

Yeah, I've spiraled a lot about gluten. I this year have like probably like partially consciously, partially subconsciously, have like had less gluten in like my day-to-day, but I am somebody who just loves bread. Like I love bread. I love cookies, I love like fried stuff, like like fried mozzarella sticks. Oh, I love Matamos. Like I it's in everything. I'm like, it is when you really think about it, so that what I I'm getting at here that I'm spiraling is that I like the less I had of it, the more I was like, when I would have it, like I would feel it more of like, oh no, like I've cut it out and now I'm having it. And like before I didn't used to feel like that, and now I feel like my stomach will really hurt, or like whatever. And it's just like sucks because I've gone to like get a sandwich, and like, what do you want to do when you go to a sandwich? I'll be like, I gotta get the sourdough. Like, of course. I'm gonna get like the best bread choice. Now I'm like, do I need to get gluten-free? Like, is it gonna hurt my song? You know what I mean? Like, I'm at I'm at an Italian restaurant and they bring out like all of our favorite things, like a bac a basket of free bread that you just keep like wanting to have with whatever butter, all oil, and you're like, wait, I maybe only can have like one slice of it, and like that feels really dark.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:30

That's really sad.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:31

Like in this day and age with like how life is and how stressed we are, like and I just want to grab for like a pe more than one piece of bread. Like, you know what I mean? So I'm just spiraling about this.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:44

Yeah. Bagels. Do you want to know a fun fact? What's that? My mom has celiac, and out of her three daughters, I was the one that got the gene for it. So I may have celiac in my food. Wait, do you also react to gluten? Not yet, but I could in the future. Wow. So I'm like, So, like eating the bread while you can.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:04

That is my message here. It's just yeah, it's I'm like, I'm that girl who's like, keep the bread rolling. Like let's not cancel the bread, like pasta, like I want to have like a pasta dish.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:18

And maybe I want to end with a dessert that has gluten in it. Of course. And like sue me. Of course. And like sue me about that, because it's my night out, and I'm gonna spend money on a night out, and I'm not doing groceries, and I'm not cooking for myself, and I just want to be treated, and I I just want to have it.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:36

Do you remember when we went out, and I think me you and Krista got pizza sometimes? Yes. It was so necessary to keep going.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:43

It was amazing by the gluten. Yes. It's a power through. We were out and we were hungry. Yeah. And there was this amazing little like window pizza place where you like walk up, walk in, pick a slice, and sit on this super cute bench. We got the last one. Yeah, there were only three left, and we got the last three. We're like, okay, who's gonna take what? Yeah. Interview was like, I'll have whatever, and it worked out. We all we all sat on this super cute bench, like in front of the restaurant. It was that was such a cute moment. Yeah, like happy to report that like my stomach was fine that night, but I needed that to like because I think we started early at midnight.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:19

It might have been a Penmar night, I want to say, then turned into a going out. So when you're starting that early, it's like you need a gluten break.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:28

Now where we are in life, like we have to be responsible adults. Like we have to think about like earlier, we have to think about eating before or during drinking. We're 27 if you didn't hear water, we have to do water. Like, this is just you used to not be like this. It used to not be like this. You should just go out and like keep going the whole night, and it's like, oh I don't wake up. Food, what? Fine late night snack is good enough. Like no. Now it's like, did you eat before you go out?

SPEAKER_02 1:10:54

You have to prepare.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:55

Are you having water throughout the night? Like set yourself up for success the next day. You run, you're a runner, so like you I feel like sometimes you get up early after nights out. Like, I could never do that. I'm just like not cut out.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:09

But respect.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:10

Yeah. I am I I I understand this spiral because I am quite a bagel fanatic. When I was growing up, my mom had to tell my dad to stop buying me bagels because I was eating them so often. Oh my god, she was afraid I was eating too many bagels. So then he bought me like the thin ones, and I was like, these suck. They're not the same. Wait, I know the thin ones. So now anytime I go home, I bet you like next week when I go home, there's gonna be a full stack of Thomas bagels because of my childhood trauma. Oh my gosh. And uh wait, what do you get on your bagel? So I like a like bacon, egg, and cheese, but I like the cheese to be cream cheese. So like cream cheese. Yes, yes, bacon and egg. Love it. Yeah, yeah. And sometimes like hot sauce. Perfect. And how I'm feeling. Yeah. How about you?

SPEAKER_01 1:12:00

I love like have you been to Courage bagels? No, amazing. You need to go. I think says the person who like loves and has a bad relationship with gluten. Yeah. You have to go. It's amazing. I feel like I love like cream cheese, a little black pepper, a little sea salt, maybe a little olive oil, or like a little butter or something. I feel like they have like a something where they do butter there. I don't know. Amazing. That's amazing. Like that's all I need. I don't need anything else. Yeah. Like anything else wouldn't be an enhancement, but I'm like, that is enough for me.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:30

That sounds so and that sounds amazing.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:31

And now I'm like hungry.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:32

Yeah, yeah. And now I want that. My spiral is also about food. Okay, yes. So there's this place by here called California Chicken Cafe. Ben. I love their chicken Caesar wrap. Like I love a good chicken Caesar wrap. They changed the recipe on the menu recently.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:50

No.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:50

And they added in avocado and they took out the Caesar dressing. Now, my Is the avocado the dressing? No, they just put the dressing on the side. But what I don't like avocados, and here in California, everything does not need to have avocados. This is the one wrap on the menu that didn't have an avocado. Do you need an avocado in your chicken Caesar salad wrap? No, you need the Caesar dressing in your chicken season salad wrap. And that's hard.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:17

It is hard to take that out. Like if you were like, oh just remove it. Like it's it's usually gets all over.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:22

And it, yeah, so that's my I'm not an avocado girl. Sue me. This feels like a hot take, though. Everything. Yeah, because everyone loves avocados. You usually have to pay extra for avocado, too. Everything. And now they've probably jacked up the normal price that I now have to pay for.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:37

Okay, maybe it's factored into the price. To say a couple dollars extra that.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:42

Yeah, I'm sure that's why they did it.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:43

Interesting. Did you like ask anyone what was up with that?

SPEAKER_03 1:13:46

I was talking to the guy at the window about it. Really?

SPEAKER_01 1:13:48

What did he say?

SPEAKER_03 1:13:49

Because I like ordered on my phone, just thinking it would be the normal recipe. Sure. Why would they change it up? And then I got there and I saw on like they have a walk-up window with a menu outside, and I was like, oh no. And he was like, Yeah, I was like, every single other one you're wraps has avocado. This one, it was fine without it.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:08

Did he like concur with you on it?

SPEAKER_03 1:14:10

Was he like he gave me like extra dressing without paying for it in like sauces and stuff?

SPEAKER_01 1:14:16

So shout out to it. It feels nice to be heard out sometimes by the people that like know the menu. It's not his fault. Like it's not his fault, but you know, sometimes it's nice to just like vent it out and be like, you know what? I'm a regular here and I'm disappointed by this. And I just needed to tell someone close to the source. Yeah, and then I just gotta get it off my chest.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:38

So yeah, I kind of had it. I just I just don't I don't get it, but you know. Yeah, that's my hot type. That's a fair one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:45

Well, how do you feel? Did you? This was so fun. This is like the first time I've ever been a guest on a podcast. Like, what more fun than to do it on yours and to also have been a part of the initial conversation when you were just like conceptualizing, you know, what if I did something like this? And I think it's amazing like to see you doing it, and I can't wait to see where it goes. I'm so excited to like be on it and be chatting with you, and it just feels like us normally.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:13

But yeah, you know, doing it. As we were talking, so many stories like came up in my head. I'm like, oh my god, I need to tell Emily about that, and I need to tell Emily that.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:20

There's probably so much more we could talk about. Yeah, like we'll just have to have a part two and do like a morning after night out thing and and all of that. But yeah, it's so fun.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:29

I am so grateful. Like, seriously, this means the world. Like, it was like Christmas. Like last night I was thinking about it, and I'm like, oh yeah, we're gonna talk about this, we're gonna talk about this, and like it means the world that you would like to take your time and come do this. I've been excited all week.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:42

I'm like, what are we gonna talk about? Like I yeah, I'm so happy and so proud of you, and thank you for having me on. Like, this is so fun, and I'm just like chimpy and you know, like along. I just can't wait to see you.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:54

And like we literally just met this year from day one. You just met this girl, and you were the sweetest. So I'm really, really grateful. And I love you too.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:02

This is so fun, I love that. Cheers. Yeah, we've been casually sipping our like hardest throughout.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:13

Okay. Well, that's all. We'll see you next time. Bye. Oh my god.